Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic
Comedian Mo Fry Pasic wants to know: how’d you get your act together? Every week, Mo is interviewing one of today's most captivating entertainers about their creative process. Listen in as writers, directors, and performers like Julio Torres, Sudi Green, and Demi Adejuyigbe reflect on their careers, the projects that mean the most to them, and why they make their art. A Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production. Join us on Patreon for ad free episodes, bonus video episodes, and more! https://www.patreon.com/GoodGet
Episodes
July 9, 2025 • 55 mins
Murder mysteries. Card games. Late night comedies. This week, we're exploring Jo Firestone's creative playground! She joins Mo to discuss why she loves starting new projects just as much as finishing them, how she avoids getting bitter, and the ritual of watching Love Island.
Her new novel Murder on Sex Island is out now! Make sure to pick up a copy, and if you've listened to the episode, you know what to do...
Jo's not on soci...
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July 2, 2025 • 71 mins
Director Anu Valia has a knack for staying present, whether she's on set for a hit comedy series or in post-production on one of her films. This week, she joins Mo to discuss finding the feeling in every scene, trusting outside voices, and looking to other art forms for inspiration.
Anu's on Instagram @anuvalia. Her feature film We Strangers is in theaters this August, and you can see her recent work on shows like Adults, And Ju...
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June 25, 2025 • 62 mins
What happens when your creative outlet becomes a career? It’s a question that comedian Devon Walker has navigated ever since being cast on SNL. He joins Mo this week to discuss his journey to 30 Rock, how he’s let go of audience expectations, and why he’d rather hear about your job than talk about his.
Devon’s on Instagram @internetdevon. You can hear him every week on his podcast My Favorite Lyrics, from Disco Nap Productions. ...
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June 18, 2025 • 62 mins
Josh Sharp has just begun rehearsals for his Off-Broadway debut. It’s billed as a solo show, but technically, Josh has a scene partner: a 2,000-slide PowerPoint presentation. He joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to find synchronicity with a slideshow, how theater feels different from any film or TV set he’s worked on, and why he's reveling in duality.
Josh is on Instagram @cluckcluckjoshsharp. And Josh Sharp: ta-...
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June 11, 2025 • 66 mins
Joel Kim Booster knows the power of pining: if there’s even a chance that a script he loves can be produced, he’ll work tirelessly on it. But you won't find him waiting around for a yes—for every project he has in development, he's already drafting another.
This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he reverse-engineered self-confidence on stage, what it's been like to move his career goal posts, and the Fire Island summer that chang...
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June 4, 2025 • 63 mins
Vico Ortiz sees their career as a relationship. And they're putting in the work to keep it from becoming toxic. That means pursuing projects that feel aligned with their values, invite them to hone new skills, and fulfill their spirit—like their new solo show Rise of a King.
This week, they join Mo to discuss their experience writing both English and Spanish versions of the show; what they've learned from puppetry, drag, clowni...
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May 28, 2025 • 80 mins
Sometimes the most meaningful art exists in the interstices, where a blank canvas becomes a space that's separate from work or family or the churn of everyday life. And this week, we're celebrating this type of art with a very special guest: Mo's sibling Anna Pasic. Listen in as Mo and Anna discuss removing urgency from their art, what mutual aid has to do with creativity, and why it's worth getting back in the saddle.
Follow An...
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May 21, 2025 • 62 mins
Ronald Young Jr. is building his career in audio the same way that he'd like to build a house: with care, intentionality, and a strong foundation. And with each project that he releases, he wants listeners to hear that he's making progress. This week, he joins Mo to discuss how he approaches his critically acclaimed podcasts like Weight For It, the importance of having friends who know you off mic, and the risks of replacing emotio...
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May 14, 2025 • 70 mins
Becky Chicoine and Sam Reece met as UCB interns more than a decade ago. Since then, they've headlined comedy festivals across the country and co-written and co-starred in filmed projects like their upcoming short Apocalypse Besties.
This week, they join Mo to reflect on their enduring creative partnership as Girls with Brown Hair—with talk of theater conservatories, Broadway dance calls, scripted interludes, hard skills, snakes, a...
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May 7, 2025 • 64 mins
Hosting a popular web series wasn’t part of Catherine McCafferty’s plan. But when her friends Sam Reich and Elaine Carroll asked her to collaborate, she leapt at the opportunity. What resulted was the dating show Pretty Gay, which has seen twenty-fold growth in just over a year. She joins Mo this week to discuss her non-linear creative path, how she maintains an abundance mindset, and why it's so important to invest in up-and-comin...
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April 30, 2025 • 65 mins
Ashley Ray was told that she would need to choose between writing comedy and writing about it. But as an acclaimed critic, TV writer, and stand-up comedian, she's having the last laugh. This week, she joins Mo to discuss bringing her critical sensibility to all of her creative work, how she juggled a full-time job with a burgeoning stand-up career, and how a chance encounter with Maria Bamford shifted her entire perspective on succ...
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April 23, 2025 • 63 mins
Experiencing Richard Perez's comedy is a lot like riding a rollercoaster: one moment, you're laughing your head off; the next, you're clutching your heart. This week, Richard joins Mo to discuss taking big swings on stage, his leap from photography to comedy, and why he's never written down his solo show I Have To Do This.
You can see Richard on tour with the show this spring; next up, New York City on April 27 and Los Angeles on ...
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April 16, 2025 • 56 mins
Vinny Thomas lets his characters speak to him, whether he's playing a pigeon at Pride or Clarence Thomas's grandson. He joins Mo this week to discuss his viral comedy videos, his dream of hosting a Jeff Corwin-style show about animals, and his absolutely, one hundred percent neutral opinions on a certain early 2000s reality TV host.
Vinny is on Instagram and TikTok @vinn_ayy.
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April 9, 2025 • 61 mins
By the age of three, comedian Ruby Karp had made her Upright Citizens Brigade debut. By the age of ten, she was performing stand-up across New York City. Now in her mid-twenties, she's settling into her comedic voice—and doing so with the maturity and grace of someone who's been working on their craft for more than half their life. Ruby joins Mo this week to discuss her digital footprint, T.J.Maxx platitudes, and why she's naming n...
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April 2, 2025 • 68 mins
Comedian Kyle Ayers feels funniest when he's not in control. But after brain surgery for Trigeminal neuralgia, he wondered whether he could be funny at all.
He joins Mo this week to discuss how he's reclaimed a sense of adventure on stage, why he thinks stand-up is becoming a more patient art form, and what it was like to perform in an Edinburgh plague crypt.
Kyle revels in the fact that his comedy isn't always legible to audienc...
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March 26, 2025 • 69 mins
For Parvati Shallow, life is a game—and she's playing it authentically. She joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to take control of her own narrative after nearly two decades of appearing on reality TV competitions, how she creates a genuine rapport with on-screen allies, and why there's more to survival than fight or flight.
You can follow Parvati on Instagram @pshallow. Make sure to pre-order her forthcoming memoir ...
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March 19, 2025 • 65 mins
This week, we're honored to present an episode of At Liberty, from our friends at the ACLU.
Every other week, host W. Kamau Bell is asking the big questions on the big issues affecting our country. Recent episodes cover immigration rights and LGBTQIA+ rights, and today, we're sharing an episode about disability rights. We hope you'll listen, and subscribe to the ACLU's At Liberty wherever you like to listen.
We'll be back from sp...
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March 12, 2025 • 63 mins
Writer and actor Jeffery Self isn't afraid to let go—whether he's pursuing a creative path that doesn't feel generative or reflecting on an early project of his. He writes, too, with a reflexive self-awareness, and an openness that's as vulnerable as it is steady-handed. This week, he joins Mo to discuss treating mental health as a perpetual roommate, finding creative elders, and channeling Jacqueline Susann.
You can follow Jeffer...
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March 5, 2025 • 68 mins
Artmaking can help heal us emotionally; for Kate Helen Downey, that healing process has also been physical. Kate's spent more than two decades living with severe period cramps, but it was only when she picked up a microphone for her new podcast CRAMPED that doctors started to take her seriously.
This week, she joins Mo to discuss how she shows herself grace when pain limits her productivity, what excites her about creative problem...
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February 26, 2025 • 78 mins
Tim Platt is a creative polymath: he can write songs, he can draw, and he can commit so hard to a bit that he ends up infiltrating a multi-level marketing scheme for healthy energy drinks. At the heart of all his work is a desire for collaboration, and for over a decade, he's been Mo's other half in the comedy duo Pasic & Platt.
Tim joins Mo this week to reflect on their creative partnership, his favorite rhymes, and his new comed...
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