Worse Than You with Mo Fry Pasic
Comedian Mo Fry Pasic wants to know: how’d you get your act together? Every week, Mo is interviewing one of today's most captivating entertainers about their creative process. Listen in as writers, directors, and performers like Julio Torres, Sudi Green, and Demi Adejuyigbe reflect on their careers, the projects that mean the most to them, and why they make their art. A Good Get and Disco Nap Co-Production.
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April 30, 2025 • 64 mins
Ashley Ray was told that she would need to choose between writing comedy and writing about it. But as an acclaimed critic, TV writer, and stand-up comedian, she's having the last laugh. This week, she joins Mo to discuss bringing her critical sensibility to all of her creative work, how she juggled a full-time job with a burgeoning stand-up career, and how a chance encounter with Maria Bamford shifted her entire perspective on succ...
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April 23, 2025 • 62 mins
Experiencing Richard Perez's comedy is a lot like riding a rollercoaster: one moment, you're laughing your head off; the next, you're clutching your heart. This week, Richard joins Mo to discuss taking big swings on stage, his leap from photography to comedy, and why he's never written down his solo show I Have To Do This.
You can see Richard on tour with the show this spring; next up, New York City on April 27 and Los Angeles on ...
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April 16, 2025 • 55 mins
Vinny Thomas lets his characters speak to him, whether he's playing a pigeon at Pride or Clarence Thomas's grandson. He joins Mo this week to discuss his viral comedy videos, his dream of hosting a Jeff Corwin-style show about animals, and his absolutely, one hundred percent neutral opinions on a certain early 2000s reality TV host.
Vinny is on Instagram and TikTok @vinn_ayy.
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April 9, 2025 • 60 mins
By the age of three, comedian Ruby Karp had made her Upright Citizens Brigade debut. By the age of ten, she was performing stand-up across New York City. Now in her mid-twenties, she's settling into her comedic voice—and doing so with the maturity and grace of someone who's been working on their craft for more than half their life. Ruby joins Mo this week to discuss her digital footprint, T.J.Maxx platitudes, and why she's naming n...
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April 2, 2025 • 67 mins
Comedian Kyle Ayers feels funniest when he's not in control. But after brain surgery for Trigeminal neuralgia, he wondered whether he could be funny at all.
He joins Mo this week to discuss how he's reclaimed a sense of adventure on stage, why he thinks stand-up is becoming a more patient art form, and what it was like to perform in an Edinburgh plague crypt.
Kyle revels in the fact that his comedy isn't always legible to audienc...
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March 26, 2025 • 69 mins
For Parvati Shallow, life is a game—and she's playing it authentically. She joins Mo this week to discuss what it's been like to take control of her own narrative after nearly two decades of appearing on reality TV competitions, how she creates a genuine rapport with on-screen allies, and why there's more to survival than fight or flight.
You can follow Parvati on Instagram @pshallow. Make sure to pre-order her forthcoming memoir ...
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March 19, 2025 • 65 mins
This week, we're honored to present an episode of At Liberty, from our friends at the ACLU.
Every other week, host W. Kamau Bell is asking the big questions on the big issues affecting our country. Recent episodes cover immigration rights and LGBTQIA+ rights, and today, we're sharing an episode about disability rights. We hope you'll listen, and subscribe to the ACLU's At Liberty wherever you like to listen.
We'll be back from sp...
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March 12, 2025 • 63 mins
Writer and actor Jeffery Self isn't afraid to let go—whether he's pursuing a creative path that doesn't feel generative or reflecting on an early project of his. He writes, too, with a reflexive self-awareness, and an openness that's as vulnerable as it is steady-handed. This week, he joins Mo to discuss treating mental health as a perpetual roommate, finding creative elders, and channeling Jacqueline Susann.
You can follow Jeffer...
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March 5, 2025 • 67 mins
Artmaking can help heal us emotionally; for Kate Helen Downey, that healing process has also been physical. Kate's spent more than two decades living with severe period cramps, but it was only when she picked up a microphone for her new podcast CRAMPED that doctors started to take her seriously.
This week, she joins Mo to discuss how she shows herself grace when pain limits her productivity, what excites her about creative problem...
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February 26, 2025 • 77 mins
Tim Platt is a creative polymath: he can write songs, he can draw, and he can commit so hard to a bit that he ends up infiltrating a multi-level marketing scheme for healthy energy drinks. At the heart of all his work is a desire for collaboration, and for over a decade, he's been Mo's other half in the comedy duo Pasic & Platt.
Tim joins Mo this week to reflect on their creative partnership, his favorite rhymes, and his new comed...
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February 19, 2025 • 60 mins
It’s one thing for an audience to separate the art from the artist. But what if an artist wants to keep aspects of their life separate from their art? Sasheer Zamata has spent over a decade navigating this precarious balance, from her early days on SNL to her recent turn in Agatha All Along. She joins Mo this week to discuss how she stays authentic, why she likes working with her friends, and the thrill of finding new ways to expre...
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February 12, 2025 • 66 mins
For actor and comedian Chris Grace, writing a solo show isn't the hard part. Neither is performing it. It's the feeling that he should always be doing more—more promotion, more show dates, or more new material—that he has to contend with.
This week, Chris and Mo get into the complexities of staging a solo show—especially one at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival—treating the audience like a scene partner, and laughing in the face of de...
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February 5, 2025 • 65 mins
Writer and director Bri LeRose periodically asks herself: if a teenage Bri, living in Wisconsin, looked at her career today, would she think it was enough? And the answer's always yes: she would have thought it was the coolest thing in the world to even share space with the people she admired.
Today, Bri joins Mo to discuss her comedy process, from directing titans like Maria Bamford to co-writing the groundbreaking film The Peopl...
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January 29, 2025 • 56 mins
If you’re a regular listener of Worse Than You, then you know that Albertina Rizzo is inner circle. Albertina and Mo connect through the shared philosophy that life is funny, even the sad parts. And that being funny and interested in life is the key to joy.
Albs joins Mo this week to discuss writing for late night, how she follows the fun on—and off—the page, the power of anonymity, and why she’d love to buy herself a boss. Plus,...
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January 22, 2025 • 62 mins
It's not every day that we get to witness someone's process on the eve of a major creative milestone. Today's one of those special days. Join us in celebrating our dear friend Chris Renfro as they make their Broadway debut in Oh, Mary!
Mo and Chris discuss how Chris landed one of Broadway's most exciting roles as Mary's Teacher, the skills they're hoping to develop off stage during their run, and how they've built a creative comm...
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January 15, 2025 • 58 mins
A note from team Worse Than You: When we recorded our first batch of episodes for season two, we had no idea that we'd be releasing them amidst the ongoing, incomprehensible fires in LA. We hope that these conversations can bring comfort to our listeners as we process this difficult time together. Make sure you're following @meauxpas and @worsethanyoushow on Instagram, where we'll continue to share mutual aid resources and other wa...
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January 1, 2025 • 66 mins
Happy new year, dear friends! We figured you might want to start 2025 off with a burst of creative inspiration... and we've got you covered, with an early release from our new season, featuring Matt Rogers!
Listen in as Mo and Matt reflect on their decade-long friendship, how they approach creative collaborations, and an early character of Matt's that still makes Mo crack up.
Also, we've got a full video version of this episode a...
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January 1, 2025 • 1 min
It's a new year, and we've got an all new season teed up for you!
We're thrilled to announce that we'll be back on Wednesday, January 15, with weekly episodes to follow. And as a special gift for our listeners, we're releasing a full episode with Matt Rogers... today!
So go take a listen, and make sure you're subscribed to the show so that you don't miss a beat. Also, if nobody's told you yet this year: oh my god, you're so prett...
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October 1, 2024 • 63 mins
We're celebrating our season finale with a very special guest: Sam Taggart! The Straightiolab co-host joins Mo to discuss millennial jokes, the fine line between judgement and critique, and the unforgettable night that Mo went blonde.
We'll be back soon with new episodes, and an exciting new group of guests. Make sure to stay subscribed so you don't miss a thing!
Sam Taggart is a comedian, actor, and writer currently writing on A...
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September 24, 2024 • 52 mins
Julio Torres has never let other people measure his success. This week, Julio joins Mo to discuss being a "zero waste" artist, embracing chaos and mess, and the Sex and the City scene that speaks best to his creative process. Plus, Mo shares a poem of Julio's that they've held for ten years.
Julio Torres is an Emmy-nominated, Peabody-winning, and WGA-winning writer, director and comedian from El Salvador. .
Most recently, he wrot...
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