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October 21, 2025 27 mins

Transparent leadership in counseling is at the heart of this honest conversation with Jennifer Froemel, founder of Innovative Counseling Partners and host of The Fear of Change. Jennifer shares how embracing the “I don’t want to” moments has become a leadership compass—highlighting the uncomfortable issues that quietly slow down practices. From revamping front-end workflows and billing collaboration (at a $700k/month scale) to developing capable middle managers through supervision, coaching, and continuing education, she shows how transparency accelerates execution and builds trust. 

You’ll learn how she created a “culture of calm” with clear communication windows and scheduled sending habits, why supervision must be active (not “dialed in”), and how boundaries shift when clinicians take on leadership roles. Jennifer also talks about her trekking in Nepal, making an impact abroad, and how new layers of freedom require new layers of responsibility—such as succession planning, risk management, and team readiness.

Takeaways:
• Turn “I don’t want to” into a to-do that unlocks flow.
• Train middle managers with real scenarios, rubrics, and CE hours.
• Protect deep work and wellbeing with scheduled communication norms.
• Build transparent operations so crises don’t break your systems.
• Balance freedom with responsibility through succession planning.

 Listen in for practical, values-driven steps to lead a healthier, higher-performing counseling practice.

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About the Host

Dan King is a lawyer turned private equity founder with a passion for fixing burnout in mental health. With a background in M&A, Shark Tank deals, and psychology, he now leads Fireside Strategic — investing in group practices that put people first.

  • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/danmking
  • Website: firesidestrategic.com



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