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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, I'm
Dr Beatrice Ippolit, and this is
your World.
Hello everyone, our guest fortoday is Ms Diane Speed.
(00:20):
I said it right, diane Speed,speed.
Yeah, I said it right, dianeSpeed, diane Speed.
And so we have the privilege tohave Ms Speed with us today,
and she's going to talk aboutdomestic violence, but most
likely about your business.
So, before I even say anythingelse, I give you the mic.
Tell us a little bit about you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay, so my name is
Diane Speed and I am the CEO and
founder of Heaven's HorizonsFoundation, which started in
September of 2020.
The reason why we started thefoundation is due to a family
member of mine who experienceddomestic violence, and also two
friends that went through thejourney of this problem that's
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plagued around the world, and itmade me want to start something
to try to help communities thatgo through domestic violence.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Because domestic
violence is very serious and we
have way too many peopleexperiencing domestic violence
every year.
According to research, one infour women experience domestic
violence severe physicalviolence every year, and one in
seven men.
But sometimes people think thatdomestic violence is something
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that only related to women.
But men do experience domesticviolence as well and, according
to research, one in seven menexperienced severe physical
violence by an intimate partnerin their lifetime and 10 million
people.
Can you imagine that?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's a huge number
and that's the other ones you
may know about.
There's many that goesundetected and reported Exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
So when I read 10
million people experience
domestic violence every year notworldwide, in the US only.
It's a large number.
And for the demographics theysay young women between the age
of 18 to 24 have the highestrisk of domestic violence.
Low income households are morelikely to experience domestic
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violence.
And the LGBTQ community?
They are at a very great riskof experiencing domestic
violence.
For the physical and emotionalimpact domestic violence can
result in serious injuries,including head trauma, broken
bones and international injury.
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People think you know, so it'slike you know domestic violence
you know.
For many people they're like oh, it was just an argument, but
it get you know.
Often time it get physical andwhen it get physical people can
be left with serious injuries.
So mental health, domesticviolence can lead to depression,
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anxiety and substance abuse,because sometimes you know, when
people are in so much pain theydon't know what else to do to
numb that pain.
They will just plungethemselves into alcohol or
substance abuse.
So it's a very serious concernthat people need to bring
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awareness about it and I'm gladthat you had a family member you
know who had the experience andyou say you know what.
I'm going to do something aboutit.
Tell us a little bit about yourcompany.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
This is now five
years of having Heavens Arise.
The ultimate goal is to havehousing for families well,
basically women and childrenthat experience domestic
violence, which can sometimeslead to homelessness.
Right now, many of thesefamilies stay in shelters, which
is not always safe.
So the plan is the plan and thegoal is to have housing where
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we can prepare a safe andcomfortable living environment,
not a shelter setting, more likea home where we could provide
programs for them.
Well, I started creating my ownprograms.
I'm not quite finished becauseit's a lot of work, but we're
trying to create these programsand for the past five years,
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what we've been doing isclothing drives and book bag
giveaways.
That's basically, and it'sgetting bigger because a lot of
people donate to theorganization.
Sometimes I even like take aone-way flight to the South,
where my family resides, and wego picking up a whole bunch of
donations from the SouthernStates and head on back to New
York.
So by the time, like, I haveall these donations from
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everyone, from family, friends,coworkers, neighbors, whoever it
may be we have an abundance ofclothes and shoes and bags and
baby items.
It's a lot and it's becomingbigger and bigger every year.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So what is the target
population?
Do you only serve women andkids, or you serve men as well?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So the clothing drive
is for everybody Because, like
you mentioned, men also gothrough domestic violence too
and homelessness.
That's rapid.
In the United States there's alot of homeless people.
So sometimes they come to theclothing drives and they're so
happy to come and collect.
You know, they just come andshop.
We have bags for them and theyjust go out into wherever we are
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and just pick whatever theyneed.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
The clothing drives.
So how often do you have it?
It's yearly or twice?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It's yearly, but
we've done it twice in 2023.
We did one in Manhattan and onein Brooklyn.
We did one in December that wasalso in Brooklyn, at a church I
forget the name of the church.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
And you accept all
type of clothing.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Once it's in good
condition.
If you would wear it.
Then you can pass it over toHeaven to Rise and Foundation.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, so regardless,
you know, if it is for male
female old kids babies, you know, if I were to donate some
clothing, so what would be the?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
donation.
Usually how it goes is I myselfpick it up.
That's how we do it.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Oh, so if I were to
give some clothes away?
So I'll contact you.
It's a number you call and Ipersonally come and get it, and
you make arrangement to come andpick it up.
Okay, so we'll get that number,you know, at the end of the
show.
So what is the vision and themission statement of your
organization, the?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
vision is to get the
housing.
The mission is to have thesefamilies housed and safe away
from shelters, because sheltersare not always the safest place
for them to reside.
And this is coming from thepeople that actually live in
shelters it's not safe for kids.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
They see drugs, they
see a lot of things that they
shouldn't be seeing children butone thing that I understand
especially for women withchildren, shelter may be one of
the quickest way for them to beplaced in a safe, temporary you
know.
If you have any issue, you goto the shelter.
So you know, so you will bequick to be placed in a safe
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environment yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And the clothing
drive.
Basically, when women decide toleave their abuser, a lot of
times they leave with theclothes on their back.
So when they go into theshelters domestic violence
shelters they don't haveanything.
They just have what they'rewearing because it's like a
quick getaway once in a lifetimekind of thing, so that he
doesn't catch you or the personwho's abusing doesn't catch you.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
So do you work with
those domestic violence shelters
?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't work, but I'm
connected to them in some ways.
I have people that work inshelters.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So let's say, for
example, if I were to be placed
in one of those shelters and Ihave a need for clothes, how
your company will be able toassist me.
Well, they'll call.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
They'll always reach
out and we'll make arrangements.
Okay, I personally won't go tothe domestic violence because
they're supposed to be.
You're not supposed to knowwhere they are right For safety,
for safety reasons.
So me giving like I can meet upwith somebody and they now will
distribute the clothes to thepeople that need it.
But as far as me having a spacewhere you can come, anyone is
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welcome to come Like we'll havea space, we'll put up flyers and
we'll just start promoting that.
You know we're having aclothing drive on this day in
this area and they're more thanwelcome to come and shop.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, so what types
of services and programs does
your organization offer tosurvivors and domestic violence?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You know different
than what you already mentioned,
so I'm still working, like Isaid earlier, working on my
program.
But as far as the mental health, we have that but we don't
actually counsel people becausewe're not really in a space.
So let's just say someonereaches out and says that this
one's going through something.
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I can call and make aconnection for them to go and
like a referral and they can goand get assistance that way.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, can you
describe your emergency shelter
program including capacity-ledhead of state and services?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So the goal because I
want it to be a housing program
, not just a temporary thing wehave the vision I should should
say is having a house with maybesix to seven units where
families can go in there andlike basically start their life
over.
As far as the programs areconcerned that we're trying to
get in place, that's what we'recurrently working on, because we
actually don't have the housingyet you understand, okay so,
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but the people that you, youservice, are they in the city or
the entire New York?
Wherever they are, because howwe do it, when we have these
events, the flyers go out.
Some people put it on anInstagram page, facebook page,
so anyone anywhere can see itand they're welcome to come.
So even if we have an event inManhattan, some people from
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Brooklyn, queens, upstate,wherever you are that you feel
you need services in that aspectof clothes, you can come and
get what you need.
Okay, and also in August, wealso have book bag giveaways.
Last year we did one.
We had over 350 book bags.
The book bags always come withsupplies, that's from back to
school.
Yeah, okay, and we have, likeyou know, we do fun things for
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kids.
We have like the cotton candymachine, we have the icing
machine.
We try to make it fun.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
What about Christmas?
You do some special events forChristmas.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, so this
December, the same church.
I can't remember the name ofthe church.
We would have like a SantaClaus the elves.
I can show you a video of it,but yeah, that was in a big
church space in Brooklyn and wehave gifts.
Even though you're shopping forclothes, we still have like an
area where's a christmas treeand their gifts that's wrapped
up for boys and girls.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
we have them
separated with ages most of the
events that you normally haveare also posted on your website,
so if I wanna go and seeexactly what you do.
It's so I can just go to yourwebsite and glance through.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I forgot to
mention one.
I think it's a big part.
We also always have hot food,Hot food from rice, chicken,
stewed chicken, name it, we haveit.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Are they in giving
come or specific seasons?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Every December we
have it and then we'll do it.
If we do it twice a yearThanksgiving, though, just
December, and then we'll do itlike may or june.
So the first one for 2025 isgoing to either be in may or
june.
I can't give a date in the timebecause I haven't figured that
part out.
Right now I'm collectingdonations oh, okay, okay, but
thanksgiving, so it's a no-noyeah, not to say I'm ruling it
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out, but I always do it becauseit's a lot of work, it's a lot
lot.
It's a lot of work and you needmoney too.
Yes, right now that's comingfrom my paycheck.
Everything I do is comingdirectly from my paycheck.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Because it's close to
your heart.
Yes, if I may put it that way,that's very good, because I
remember, you know, years ago Iassisted somebody you know who
was facing domestic violence.
But one thing that I've seenwithin this area when people
financially depend on otherpeople or on the abuser, they
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don't know what to do Because atthe end of the day, financially
, he's the one doing everything,he's the one paying.
I'm saying he, but it can beshe too, you know.
So if the abuser is the onepaying for the rent, you know,
provide the food in the house,you know, financially everything
depends on that person, ofcourse, even though that you
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know that it's bad for you.
You know the condition, thebeating, the cursing they're
putting you down.
So it's taking a toll on you,but you still cannot leave
because at the end of the day,my life depends on that person.
So what should I do?
And I remember slowly, slowlyshe was very patient slowly,
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slowly.
So she didn't have a highschool diploma at that time.
So we worked together intogetting her high school diploma
and later on look for jobplacement.
And it's hard because while youtry to assist that person but
you don't want to make any badmove for the person not to get
hurt more than she or he wasalready getting hurt.
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So you have to be very you know, you have to use some tact, you
know around it, so.
But my greatest joy of thatsituation is like to see that at
the end of the day, shecompleted the GED program, she
had her high school diploma anda year later she was able to
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take the HHA training and workas a home attendant.
And when she finally saved somemoney on her own I don't know
how she saved money because Ididn't want to get involved into
keeping her money, so sheprobably used somebody else and
now she was financially stableand she was able to make her own
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move.
And she moved out and went tothe womb from somebody.
Few years later, somebodyscreamed out loud my name.
I was walking in the middle ofFlatbush and Glenwood when
somebody screamed out my name I.
I look around, I didn't knowthe person out of nowhere.
She's like you don't rememberme and I'm like no.
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And when she said, you rememberand I'm like wow, so, but I was
walking, she was driving.
She said so where you going,I'm gonna drop you.
And I said no, I need to takepublic transportation, so I was
so happy.
Yeah, and now you may notunderstand exactly what you're
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doing, or other people may maynot understand what you're doing
, but, miss Speed, I must tellyou what you're doing is
valuable and sooner or lateryou're gonna see how many people
are going to come around andshow their gratitude, because
it's not an easy work.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I must say it's not,
and I do.
I mean, like even when we havethe clothing drives, you have
people that come back thefollowing year and I'm like I
remember you from last time orwhatever, and we have these
little conversations and then,even with the stories that they
share, that's how we know,because as we're walking with
them, as they're shopping andthey share their stories, it's
like it's heartbreaking and thekids, even with the kids having
to see mom being abused, it'snot a good thing, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
By mommy being abused
or daddy being abused
emotionally, those child arebeing abused as well.
Of course, I salute you, so youare doing a great work.
My next question what type ofcounseling and therapy services
do you offer, and how are theytailored to meet the needs of
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those survivors?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
so my health provider
or my mental health partner,
that's in part of the heavenshorizons.
She is licensed to treat orinterview or counsel on people,
but because we don't have thatspace, we don't do.
I mean.
The most I can tell you is thatwhen we go to the counseling,
the clothing drives, she's therewalking and counseling
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sometimes with them and justwalking and talking to them.
But as far as somebody comingto an office space, we don't
have that as yet either.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
That will come.
But if somebody is in a greatneed, do you have all the
agencies that you can refer themto?
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, I will speak to
the person who is part of my
team, which is a licensed mentalhealth counselor, and then she
can refer them to wherever theyneed to go.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, because it's
very important.
Sometimes, you know,emotionally it's always like
people may be in great need andnot knowing or not having a
place to send them to can be achallenge, but I'm glad that you
have that in place.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Well, the number that
you'll give at the end when
they call and we kind of knowand figure out what they're
going through, we can alwaysmake those connections.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Okay, that's good to
know.
So my next question can youdescribe your organization,
community engagement and forincluding OutWish education?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
and partnership.
Well, the partnership isbasically with NYPD.
A lot of times they'll get methe spaces to have their
clothing drives and I justrecently went to Albany and made
connections with some of thecongresspeople.
So I'm trying to work with themnow to see if they can also
support my vision and mission aswell.
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Oh, okay, but as far aseverything else else is
basically me either looking forspaces, everything is basically
I'm doing a lot by myself.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
so when you say that
you're looking for spaces.
So you look, like you know fora location to have, like you
know, to say you know what.
This is the physical address.
Yes, you know.
For for the organization.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
No, this is the
address.
We're having the events, theevents, so like the clothing
drives are done.
Whatever borough they tell meto do it in, I'll do it, but
they'll help me find a locationto have it.
But it's a temporary location.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yes, it's just for
the event, but you need a
permanent location.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yes, and that's when
I get my buildings and my houses
.
That's the plan.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
It's very important.
So, my dear, you know, hey, ifyou can have, like you know,
like five staff members or whathave you, you know like, hey, if
I'm going to have like acounselor, you know, dear, like
you know, like maybe twice orthree times a week, so I know,
so it's dear, so everybody'sgoing to have a place where they
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can come either twice or threetimes a week or every day why
not?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, if I had the
space that I envision, I want to
always have an area set up withstuff that they're going to
need, where they can just comeand help themselves.
That's one of my visions.
So right now, like I said, it'sjust either everything coming
from me or I have two otherfemales on my team, so the three
of us together make it work,but it's just the three of us.
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So now we'll have maybe otherfamily and friends that may want
to come in and assist us forthe day to help us get the event
together, but it's just threepeople on my little team.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
So, but how you get
you know?
So volunteered.
So you know.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Do you normally ask
no, so usually I'll have a loose
leaf binder with the paper anda lot of the guests that's
coming to shop from shelters andstuff they'll sign their name.
So when they come and see thefood or the activities for the
kids or whatever, they get allexcited.
So now they're like, hey, canwe help you guys next time?
Sure, so the list that we have,we'll contact them and they'll
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come back and help.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, that's good,
because I, you know, a few times
I volunteered, you know.
So the last time I volunteeredit was was that a shelter?
No, so it was like.
But what they do?
They put bags together and goto the.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Like care bags they
have like lotions and
toothbrushes and stuff like that.
Yeah, they care bag.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
But they will deliver
at the women's prison.
Yeah, another big.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Thing.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
So I never go to
deliver with them, but I will go
and put those care bagstogether.
So it's like there are timesI'll spend a whole Saturday.
Yeah, you know, sometimes itcan be the food pantry.
They have a huge you know foodpantry so we go and we do bags,
yeah, you know.
So they tell you they give youa list of you know items that
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you can place in each bag.
So it's like, oh, girl, I haveto tell you I love it.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's a good feeling
when you can help, especially if
you're in a good place.
You know, I mean, we allprobably had struggles in our
life at one point.
But you can't forget and thereare people that they're people
and human beings, not no, Idon't think anyone purposely
wants to be abused, but thesethings happen and because
sometimes they're so fearful ofexpressing these, because you
know they're afraid of gettinghurt more who knows?
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But sometimes they do want help.
But you can't force them toleave.
You can't force them to leave.
A lot of times they don't havea place to go.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah because
financially they don't have any
stability, yeah, so they dependon that person.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
But if we can like,
continue what I'm doing with my
organization and like thefunding is a big thing.
If we had the funding, I couldprobably do a whole lot more,
but I can only do so much.
Like I said, everything iscoming from my paycheck and I
still have to also handle mypersonal well-being.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And I like when you
say that you cannot force them
to leave, so we only can workwith them and encourage them.
Sometimes, you know, youencounter people who say you
know what?
This is the last time you know,I'm going to allow him or her
to put his or her hand on me and, before they know it, they
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abuse us.
They know how to manipulate.
They do you know before theyknow it.
So flowers are going to be onthe table.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
They apologize, you
know before they know it.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
so flowers gonna be
on the table.
They apologize, you know, honey.
So that will never happen again.
They probably will create anopportunity to make sure you
know they have the best intimatemoment ever, and before they
know it.
So you fall into the same thinguntil the next beat up happens.
So it's a challenge.
It is, it is really a challenge, but I'm glad that you know
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there are people out there whounderstand that it is a
challenge and they're willing tohelp, like people like you.
Thank you for your service.
You're welcome.
What role your organizationplay in raising awareness about
domestic violence and promotingprevention efforts?
So?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
when we have the
event.
That's when we speak to them inthe moment, because sometimes
they'll share their story to us,what they're going through.
And the mental health counselorthat I have she speaks two
different languages, so even ifyou speak other another language
other than english, she's ableto express what you can do,
things you can do, places youcan go because, like I said,
she's the mental health workperson um to get assistance and
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if you need to, okay okay, sothe next question is what are
the primary sources of fundingfor your organization and how
you uh you're looking at her.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
How do you diversify
your funding streams?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I am the funding
stream, so for right now, that's
what it is.
There's no other avenues.
If I knew how to write grants,I probably would be able to do
more, but I don't know how towrite grants.
I would need a grant writer toassist me.
So I know a lot of times,certain times of the year, they
do give out um, funding, um, butI don't know how to do it and
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I've been doing what do you callit?
Instagram?
I've been on Instagram likejust asking people.
You get a lot of hits.
Everybody knows how to write agrant.
There was one person who got meum like a business plan
together, whatever, and she saidthat she also does grant
writing.
Well, it's been like ninemonths and I haven't heard
anything back.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So I don't know Okay,
so you need a good grant writer
.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yes, A good grant
writer.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, because there
are people who are good at
writing grants.
I work with somebody who usedto do that at the job at that
time, so I've heard thatwhenever that lady you know put
a grant together, yes, so maybeshe still does it, you don't
have to worry.
Maybe she still does it, younever know.
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So we'll discuss you know thatafter the show.
Thank you.
What are the most significantchallenges your organization
faces in terms of funding andresources development?
I understand that you justmentioned the grant.
You know so, and so you are theonly person you know
financially kind of fitting in.
So beside those challenges, arethere other challenges that you
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are facing?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I mean, actually I've
been out looking for housing.
Sometimes the housing it costsa lot.
The vision that I have.
Some of these buildings arelike one point, something
million to get started.
Um, that's one of thechallenges, I'm thinking.
Another challenge sometimeseven finding a space to have the
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events could be a challenge aswell, because sometimes the
spaces are small.
And if I had a place, oh like,okay.
So another thing I have to putall these things in a storage
unit, which again I have to payfor, to hold all the donations.
If I had a space that I canhave for myself.
Well, you don't have a storagespace, right, everything is at a
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storage unit.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That you have to pay
for.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You don't have your
own spot and sometimes I have to
have like three store unitsbecause it's so much.
If I had my own space, thatwould be less of a challenge.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, so you
definitely need a good grant
writer.
You need that money to continuewith your project.
So now it's like I don't thinkI have any more questions.
However, I do offer you thisplatform to talk about your
business in there.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Well, I mentioned
earlier, it's a nonprofit and
everything for Heavens HorizonsFoundation is basically done by
my little team.
We have three people on board.
The volunteering is alwaysaccepted.
There's a number I wrote thenumber down there that you can
call if you have any questions.
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If you want to discuss grantwriting with me, you can call
917-207-9233.
917-207-9233.
And there you will speak to alive person.
There's no prompts.
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You'll speak to a live personand if no one answers, you can
leave a message and you'll get acall back.
I think I covered that part.
Okay, so your website Websiteyes, it's
HeavensHorizizonsfoundationorgand the email is
heavenshorizonsfoundation atgmailcom.
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Heavens with an S FoundationHeavenshorizonsfoundation at
gmailcom.
But call the number, you'll getsomeone in person.
So on the website website wehave an area that you can donate
, but I tried it before I cameto the podcast and it has like
an error message.
So I spoke to my web guy whostarted it and he's going to fix
(27:16):
it.
So for right now you can justcall that number directly until
we can figure that part out.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
If I would like to
donate, or what are the channels
to donate.
So are the channels On thewebsite.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
There's that link to
donate.
That's one.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
And then we had a
Apple Apple Cash Zelle Cash Shop
.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It was actually the
GoFundMe that we were working on
to start that this year, soyeah, Okay, because you know,
nowadays people tend not tobother with anything.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Like you know, that
is not easy.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
People tend to bother
with it is fine.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So if they call the
number, somebody may choose not
to go online to follow theprotocol, but it will be easier
for that person to just do theapple pay, yes, or the the sale
right or the cash app.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes, it's true.
So when we get that up andrunning again, then I'll be able
.
But they can call.
If you call the number, once wehave that, you give me your
information, I can always do acall back.
That's how it can have to workfor right now okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So hey, you know, you
, just everybody.
You just heard the misspeed andshe needs assistance, she needs
your help.
Whatever that it can justpension, you know, five dollars,
ten dollars of twenty dollars,you will be surprised how much
different ten dollars can make.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yes, every anything
is appreciated because I'm so
used to doing it on my own.
But one day I hope I can beblessed with a grant, a space,
so I can have these families outof the shelters and in a better
space in their life.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Anybody who can help
her, please reach out.
So it was a pleasure having you, thank you, thank you for the
work you do, thank you, thankyou for your time, dedication
and trust me, that will pay off.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Thank you, and for
your time, dedication and trust
me.
That will pay off.
Thank you, and thank you forhaving me.
Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It was a pleasure to
have you One more time.
It was with your doctor,Beatrice Ippolit, with your
world.