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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone.
I'm Dr Beatrice Ippolite andthis is your World.
How do you think mental healthstigma can be reduced in our
society?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, you're so right
.
There has been a stigma until,thank God, recently, where all
of us are realizing howimportant mental health is.
And if you don't feel at peace,if you feel confused, stressed,
depressed, you know, whateverthe quote unquote, negative
feeling is that it's okay.
(00:43):
Negative feeling is that it'sokay.
It's okay to speak to someone.
That's gonna help you get intune with your feelings, because
it doesn't always mean thatperson's not always gonna be
just talking.
Sometimes they just want tolisten to you and you and
speaking about it.
Okay, release a lot of thatstress, you know, and even come
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to terms with some of what ismaking you feel depressed.
You know, and I always say thatI'm an open book, sometimes a
little too transparent.
You know my children will sayTMI, ma, tmi you know, but I
believe that when I do that, Irelease a lot of it.
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Yes, you know, and it's great,and especially when you're
coming from the truth, becausethat's another thing that I find
very important.
If you can't tell the truth,don't say anything.
It's better not to say anything.
But if you're going to speak tospeak the truth, better not to
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say anything.
But if you're gonna speak tospeak the truth, you know,
because one of the things I haveread from reading the word that
God hates is a liar his lies,and so I try to be transparent
as much as I can, and I'mlearning also that you don't
really need to speak everythingand you need to have some things
private, and so I am reallyworking on that, you know.
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But I find that that has helpedme a lot.
You know, I don't get stressedlike that or depressed, you know
, if it is, it's for a minute,not much longer.
Um, and I didn't mention alsothat of course I love to dance
and I love music and that helpsme a lot.
I put on my favorite songs inthe house, in the car, on the
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radio gospel worship, sometimes,salsa, sometimes reggae,
sometimes, you know, soul,sometimes hip hop, even you know
not the word the music I love,you know, and that is great and
I love it.
And you know, of course, one ofmy sisters in Christ, who the I
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guess you would sayentrepreneur as well, in the
same field I would say I'm afoodie.
She said stop saying that.
So then I said, ok, I'm a foodconnoisseur and I feel like I am
, you know, and that also helpsme relieve my stress, except
when it comes to calories.
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You have to watch are youpreaching?
to the choir.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So you mentioned
something earlier and I want to
kind of pick up on it.
Yes, it's something that yousaid.
Now you know you kind of learnnot to talk everything.
Sometimes it's important torelease, you know, to have a
conversation, to releasewhatever that is bothering you,
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but it's important to know whoyou're sharing that information
with.
So I was never like a bigtalker and many people around me
sometimes may think that I amdifferent or, to conserve, not
conservative.
So I consider myself as anintrovert, so I don't need to
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draw energy from others tofunction.
However, when I was like around12, 14, 16, I had a really
rough childhood but my childhoodfriend so she was a talker
everything, everything that wasbothering that girl she will
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come to my house and whether Iwanted it or not, I had to
listen and sometimes sherealized that I was up to the
neck with situations but I wouldnot talk and she would say
after she spoke she said okay,I'm done your turn.
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Who said that?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I have anything to
say?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I don't have anything
to say, and she was like yes B,
she called me B.
Yes B, you do, I'm listening.
So you know, it took me a whileto really kind of like open up
to people and I think untiltoday she's the only person that
I feel comfortable to talkabout everything and anything,
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because so she was very, notjudgmental, right, and I really
admire that from her.
It can be rough, yes, andthat's why, you know, therapy
tend to play a major role.
Yes, because it's like you maynot trust a friend, you may not
trust a family member, but ifyou go to therapy, so hey, as a
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therapist, I don't know youExactly, but we can work toward
whatever that is going on inyour life, you know, to solve it
.
And after we're done withwhatever session that we may
have, so you go your way and Igo my way you probably will
never have to meet me again andyou won't have to worry about
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your secret being let out, soyou know.
so it's important, you know, tohave people in your life that
you can.
Hey, if anything you know isbothering you, you can pick up
the phone and I say, oh, let mecall this person, let me call
that person.
But we really have to becareful because you know,
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unfortunately people are people.
Yes, you know, there are peoplethat you know.
The minute that you know you,right after you have the
conversation with that person,he or she will pick up the phone
and call somebody else oh yes,guess who just called you know
oh?
boy, girl.
This girl has a lot of problems, so so this man has a lot of
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problems.
So it's like I'm not sayingthat for people not to trust
their friends and family membersbecause that's what we have
them.
You know that's what friendsare there for.
You know to lean on when weneed a shoulder, but when you
know we know what to discloseand when to disclose, but you're
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absolutely right, beatrice.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And how much to
disclose.
Yes, because once upon a timeit was a stigma to have a
therapist, whether group orindividual, and now it's common.
Everybody has a therapist,everybody has someone that they
can release and not worry aboutwhether or not they're gonna
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hear it back or be criticized orjudged, and so the stigma that
used to be once upon a time isno longer.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You know, I remember
one time that, probably 15 years
ago, I was riding the J trainand a lady came, you know, and
sat next to me and said do youwant to talk?
And I look around, I thought itwas somebody that I knew and
I'm like when I realized that Idon't know the lady all out of
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nowhere, and I turned my facearound and she started talking
and it was only the two of us inthe cabin wow.
So I listened I listened youknow.
So I listened, I listened.
You know the crazy part Ilistened until I wished her stop
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, oh, her stop Okay.
I left my stop behind Because Ifelt the need to listen to her.
That's awesome.
Because, for somebody who don'tknow you, out of nowhere and
started to really talk aboutreally deep personal things, I'm
like you know that person, shewas dying inside but needed that
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person and I thank God the factthat you know and at that time
I said yeah, at that time I wasalready a social worker, I was
equipped.
You know, I'm glad that I was asocial worker and I was
equipped with the appropriatetools to assist her.
Thank.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
God.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And when she I never
met that lady.
Maybe if I seen her on thestreet I probably would not
recognize her, she would notrecognize me, but that day, you
know.
So she got a free session, youknow's like and, and, and she
felt comfortable.
So it was like so, so amazingthe way that she said you know,
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hey, you wanna listen, you wannatalk, right, and I'm like you
know.
So, hey, I opened the door andlet her in, and and whatever
that you know she wanted to pourout, she did Just let it out.
You know, she just leteverything out.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
God really, used you
that day.
God used me that day.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yes, God used me that
day.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's a beautiful
thing, and you know what?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I'm glad that you
mentioned that Sometimes God can
use you at any given time.
So don't feel that I'm in aworry, yes, time.
So don't feel that I'm in aworry.
Yes, because it's like that daymaybe if I didn't listen to her
only God knows what could havehappened to her God probably
used me that day to save her.
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Amen.
You know, sometimes we have tomake ourselves available to be
that vessel.
Yes, you know, to be there forthe other person.
Yes, because you never know.
You never know, you never knowwhat somebody may be going
through.
Amen, you know.
So it's like one minute of yourtime can save someone's life.
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Yes, one minute of your time cansave someone's life if we can
do it, let's just go out thereand do it.
So I understand.
So we can be busy.
We have a zillion of things todo.
We have our lives, we have ourfamily, we have our job, we have
this, we have that, but it'ssignificant that we make
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ourselves available for othersand take care of ourselves,
because if we don't, in orderfor me to provide for you, I
have to be in the right shapeamen just like on a plane,
everybody hears exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
they tell you put
your seat belt on first before
you help anybody, before exactly.
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, because if I'm
not the best of myself, I cannot
go over there and try to helpanybody around, exactly, so I
have to be my best first.
What self-care practice do youprioritize in your daily life,
and why?
Okay, besides praying?
Speaker 2 (11:33):
and getting ready.
Okay, yes, yes, okay.
So, of course, dental health isimportant.
Wow, that's a big one, veryimportant.
And so you know the first thingwhen you get up, you know make
sure you take care of your oralhygiene and brush your teeth.
You know learn the proper waybecause there is a proper way
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using, you know, mouthwash,whatever it takes, floss, I use
it all and take pride in youknow making sure that I go to
the dentist.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Whatever needs to be
fixed or they do, cleaning every
six months Every six months, Ido get a cleaning.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You know, if you have
to seek health care or
insurance some kind of healthcare insurance, even if it's to
invest a little in it, it'simportant to have that dental
care health care.
I also use a special regimenthat I follow for my skin care.
I also use a special regimenthat I follow for my skincare.
Every morning and night, I havea regimen that I follow and I
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also, of course, take my showerand I love shower gels as well.
I love them and it's importantfor your hygiene because when
you feel good and, I believe,smell good, it puts you in a
different frame of mind.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I want to add
something to the dental that you
just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
After you floss, you
brush, you rinse with whatever
Listerine or whatever mouthwashyou may prefer.
Oh, you're confident of yoursmile.
Yes, you're confident.
You know you are confident ofeverything.
I love smiling, me too.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Me too yes.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So I have to keep
them clean Right, and it's never
too late.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
If you have issues
dental wipes, it's not too late.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
One day at a time,
yeah, and one thing that I want
to point out.
You know you have to take careof your mouth or your teeth, not
only in the morning, but atnight too.
Also, you eat in the breakfast,you eat lunch, you eat dinner.
Yes, so it's like, don't getcomfortable and just go to bed
without washing.
No, by the time you turn 50,you're going to lose half of
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them.
No, it's true, you know,because you have to take.
You know you have to take careof that Because every part of
your body, you know, isimportant.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
If you have dry skin,
you want to moisturize every
day.
Every day, yeah, because beforeyou know it, your skin will be
looking wrinkled and you'll beaging before you know it.
Exactly, you know, nobody wantsto age, but we all have to age.
But why can't we age gracefully, as it is said Exactly?
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Taking care of your skin,because the worst thing dry skin
is itchy, yeah, and it'suncomfortable.
It's uncomfortable, yeah.
So all of this helps you, likeI was saying at night.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You know, floss,
brush and rinse.
You know, probably every sixmonths go to your dentist.
Yes, you know, have thatcleaning.
Some people sometimes say, oh,I don't have the time.
No, most of us have insuranceand for those who don't have
insurance I understand that itcan be a challenge, but find a
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way yeah you know, if you cannotmake it to the dentist every
six months, at least do it everyyear.
But every night, the same waythat you brush in the morning,
you rest, you know,appropriately, floss at night.
Yes, wash up, don't go to bedafter you ate that pizza, you
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ate that Kentucky Fried Chickenor what have you.
Don't go to bed like that,especially, you know, for people
who are smokers.
You know you smoke and you wantto go to bed without taking
care of your mouth.
Oh, that's a bad combination.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So you know and
hopefully it's part of self-care
is to you know, try to stopsmoking, because it's definitely
been shown not to be good foryour health and um, not to put
anyone down that smokes, butit's just it's been known not to
be good for your health and soyou know, I believe prayer helps
, that God will help you to stopUm.
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And so you know, I don't haveto go through the statistics,
everyone knows, you know, sothat's also important.
And um, and what you eat, um,it's big time.
You know.
I don't even want to get intothat because we'll be here all
day.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, it's very
important what you eat.
Yes, you know what you drink,the amount you eat, the amount
you drink.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yes, my master's
degree.
When I did it, my thesis was onthe effects of diet and how it
leads to some of the incidencesof cancer.
So there are so manycarcinogens in the foods that we
eat and I'm not saying because,you know, at the end of the day
there's something abouteverything you'll not be eating
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anything.
However, wisdom tells you thatthere are certain foods, okay,
that are definitely a no-no, andyou know I'm not going to go
through that right now.
But people are doing themselvesin and also letting their
children indulge in some ofthese things that affect them.
That's why you're hearingchildren are being diagnosed
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with cancer at an early age.
I just heard someone at 12 yearsold just passed away from
cancer.
So you have to be careful, andalso those around you loved ones
and family.
You don't have to be negativeor nag.
You know you could just plant alittle seed.
Like you know, too much of thatis not good for you, you know,
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and um then work on, or if it issomething that need to be
avoided, just avoid.
Amen, I didn't want to say thatThank you for saying that.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, no, Thank you for
saying that Sometimes you know
we have to love ourselves morethan that food Exactly, we have
to love ourselves more than thatdrink Exactly, you know,
because at the end of the dayyou may have the money to buy
like a dozen bottles of thatdrink, but your health you
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cannot put a price on it.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You can't and you
don't want to wait till the
doctor says oh, you have thisliver issue or this kidney issue
, or be on dialysis.
You don't want to wait tillthen.
We always say prevention isbetter than cure exactly and I'm
glad that you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You have people who
ended up being in, you know, in
dialysis just because they werenot taking care of themselves.
You know they were engaging inthose bad behaviors like smoking
, drinking and eating, you know,inappropriately and you can.
I see people you know who arein their 30s, you know are going
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to Dallas easily, you know,like almost every day.
Simple thing that you couldhave done to avoid that, but you
were comfortable to engage intoreckless behaviors that lead
you to that and unfortunately soit's like for those people, not
only you know I feel for them,but I feel for the families as
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well, because whatever sicknessthat they are dealing with, it
can be a burden for the families.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And they transfer
those practices onto the infants
and the children and theteenagers and young adults, et
cetera.
Yeah, you know, and so we canlearn from an early age.
You know how to eat properly,not to have so much sodium and
salt in your diet, you know toavoid excess sugar, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
If I'm having a cup
of coffee, I don't need to put,
like you know, like, like aspoon of sugar in it, because at
the end of the day so you knowthere will be an impact on your
body.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Exactly.
I have a perfect example.
My mom suffered and my dadsuffered with hypertension
Talking about tea.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
let me enjoy some.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Right.
It's no sugar added Good, good,and so, yes, both my parents had
hypertension and Therefore mymom cooked with very, very
little salt, and so I was usedto that diet with very, very
little salt to this day, and Ipraise God for it, because I
have never had an issue.
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Thank God, praise I never do.
Pray God, I never do withhypertension, and it's because
of the practices that, as achild, right now, if someone
makes a dish and to them thesalt level is great, for me it's
just a little too salty, youknow, and it's OK because I
found that that that is one ofthe things that have helped you
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know me to stay healthier andthere are some habits I
understand, so when peoplealready got caught off with them
, so it's not easy to kind ofget with.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
So you really, you,
someone really really has to
have that willpower yeah, youknow, to cut that you know like
right away, but it's not easy,oh, but yeah I understand it's
not easy, but we can do that,you know, like step by step and
especially when you think of theconsequences of not doing it
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later in life.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You don't want to be,
you know, challenged
health-wise and depend on peopleto take care of you.
You can't go anywhere, youcan't walk, because you know
when you think about thosethings you'll think twice,
Exactly things, you'll thinktwice exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
So if I, if I like my
coffee really sweet and I know
sooner or later where that leadme, where that gonna lead me, I
meant to say so.
Okay, I used to get you know tohave three to four cups per day
, so I'm not gonna stop on sweetcoffee, but let me cut on the
amount.
You know.
Instead of taking four cups,I'll do three, I'll do two.
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It's important, yeah, you know,to have a good sleep.
Happen with human.
I've seen, especially likeyoung people, some adults too
will stay up until 4 am playingvideo games.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yes, Meanwhile have
to get up at 6 to go to school
or work.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Exactly and I'm like
so you're not doing yourself any
favor.
That is really detrimental toyour own self, your own health.
So we can do better.
And all of those are part ofself-care.
Self-care is not only just goout there, take a shower, put
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your makeup on and put you knowno.
So those are also considered asself-care and we have to pay
attention, we have to take theminto consideration Because they
are very important.
And I remember a couple monthsago I had a biologist in the
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show and Dr Joseph spoke aboutAlzheimer.
And Dr Joseph spoke aboutAlzheimer's and he mentioned
that the way that we sleep, whatwe eat, what we drink, the
sport we play, you know, all ofthose can contribute for
somebody to have Alzheimer's ata very early age.
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Remember, alzheimer's used tobe an old-people disease.
Now it's no longer anall-people disease.
No, longer.
Because you know it's all thebad behaviors that we got
involved into, so very, very,very important.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
I just want to
mention your eyes also.
My mom.
She would never let us leave,leave the house or wherever
without her sunglasses, and ifwe forgot them we had to go back
home to get her sunglasses.
And she says you have toprotect your eyes from the sun.
And I used to think, oh, youknow, but she never had an issue
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with her eyes, never.
And so since she's resting inpeace now, I remember that and I
now, too, make sure.
Even today I had left and Isaid, no, let me go back and get
my sunglasses, because it'svery sunny, so you have to
protect your eyes and getcheckups also Every year Regular
checkups Every year.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yes, because you
won't understand or you will not
value the importance of ituntil you lose it.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Amen, absolutely.
And sun protection also foryour skin and your body.
The sun is beautiful, but it'snot our friend when it comes to
aging.
The sun ages us, and so youwant to use sun protection
protection.
I know a lot people like tolook tanned and burn, but it's
really not healthy.
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You should use at least atleast some SPF in your skin care
, in your facial body careexercise.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yes, you know yes you
all the junk foods that we eat.
So we need to release those badtoxins.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And to you know so
true, you know a lot of people
suffer with their knees and andif, um, and not always, but in a
lot of cases, is the weight,the weight that those knees have
to to carry.
And you find that you know,even myself, as, as I had lost
weight, I found what adifference oh, yeah, you know no
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aches, no pains.
You know, um, the minute yougain weight, you start feeling
those aches and pains.
You know I have.
I have someone in my life whoshe, she was excessively
overweight and she suffered withso many pains.
She went and, well, long story,she lost a lot of weight and
all of that went away.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah so, yeah, it's
important that's why doctor
always would come, you know,with comment people you know to
lose weight, because myself youknow, so I'm considered to be
obese.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You're not alone.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Because, compared to
my, height.
I'm supposed to be a certainweight which I exceed.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I'm working on mine
every day.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
And I'm working on it
, the 25 pounds that I put extra
pounds that I put on.
I'm working on it so, and Iwant to lose them, and I can
feel the difference when I usedto be like 140 pounds with you
know so, and and compared to youknow, when I added that 25
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pounds extra on it, so it's,it's a lot, so it's like even
you know so.
I did sustain some injuries,you know, due to an incident
that happened to me recently.
Oh girl, I'm telling you,everywhere hurts, everywhere.
I cannot wear heels, I cannotwalk even two blocks, so it's's
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a misery.
And the first thing the doctortold me Beatrice, you need to
lose some weight yeah and I said, yes, I'm working on it.
So don't get me wrong, it's noteasy.
It's much easier to put theweight on, you know, but I have
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to make the effort to lose theweight.
I know now we live in a, youknow, like in the era, like it
seemed like body.
You know, like you know people,you know so it's like some
people like to go the fast route.
Yeah, you know, go and do thethe body.
Yes, you know, especially it'samong women.
I don't know if men do it too,so, which is a beautiful thing.
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So, you know, if somebody havethe money, you can afford it,
you can taking care of yourselfafter you do the surgery.
By all means, I respect that,yes, but if you can do, do some
exercise and change your diet tolose the weight, naturally, you
know, I would recommend that.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
If you change your
eating habits then you can keep
it off.
You know, I actually recently,in the past couple of months,
was fasting, so I lost about 12pounds and I feel so good.
But I see where I can easilyfall back into my old eating
habits.
You know, I'll be honest, Ilove pastry I don't mean just
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Twinkies or I mean good bakedpastry, and I know some of the
best bakeries, okay, okay, andso I had to pull.
Well, I actually was fasting,so I wasn't having any of it,
and Now that I'm off the fast, Ihave to be careful not to go
back into that, because I don'twant to regain that weight.
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I still need to lose more, andso I'm working on it and as well
as with my Zumba etc.
But to change, you know, mycravings and my desires, to be
able to pray about it, to bedisciplined, indulge every now
and then, but not binge, and not, you know, to remember how I'm
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feeling now compared to, youknow, in the past, and I think
that helps.
That would help one to know ifthis is going to help my health,
if this is going to make mefeel better.
I can walk, walk.
I don't have to worry aboutlater using a cane or a walker
you know.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yes, it makes a
difference if you think about
these things it will stop youyeah because you don't want to
be dependent on anyone no, youknow no yeah, so no, that's,
that's very important and wehave to, hey, we have to
consider all of all of thosethings and work on them, because
, at the end of the day, so ourlives, you know, matter it, does
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you know it?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
does.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Our lives matter, so
we have to take care of our
lives.
Amen.
If we don't, nobody else will.
Nobody else will.
That's our own responsibility,that's my responsibility to
taking care of Beatrice, that'syour responsibility to taking
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care of yourself, and it's thesame for all of you watching or
listening.
Yes, absolutely Okay the samefor all of you watching or
listening.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yes, absolutely okay,
man, and it brings us back to
your first statement, youropening statement of taking care
of ourselves the best, so noone gets our left.
What was it?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
oh, self-care is
giving the world the best of you
instead of what's left of you.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yes, and it's true,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Very, you know, it's
true, so I cannot stress that
enough for people to understand.
You know, when you're takingcare of yourself, you will see
the benefit of it bothphysically and emotionally and
mentally and mentally.
Yes, you know.
(31:25):
So if I were to add, uh, thatthird, that third component to
it, so it's and spiritually andspiritually yes and when you're
good, you feel good.
You is going to benefit from it,because when you don't feel
good, you're not going to beable to spread any positivity
(31:48):
around you.
So it's going to be allcomplaining, and who wants to
deal with other peoplecomplaining all the time?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
No one.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Not me.
Other people complaining allthe time no one, not me, you
know.
So I may make myself available,you know, to listen to you one
or twice or even more, but Ialways tell people okay, I'm
going to listen to your problemthe first time, the second time,
the third time.
The fourth time.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
And you're running
the other way.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's like then?
What are the possible solutionsthat you wanna you wanna
consider?
Yes, you know, because ifyou're calling me every day
about your knee pain and thedoctor already told you to lose
some pounds, but all I'm seeing,you know you love peanut butter
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and bread.
You kept on adding peanutbutter and bread every day.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, you know, that's
baking every day, oh that that
you know.
That will add whatever thatyou're already dealing with?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
no, absolutely so,
basically.
So it's like I want to hearabout you know your knee problem
, but at the same time talkingwhat steps are you know you?
Know, yeah, you know, but youhave to tell me the steps that
you are taking you know, totoward losing weight.
Yes, because you know that'sone way that will help you feel
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less pain.