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May 16, 2025 32 mins

The journey to better mental health often begins with how we treat ourselves. In this illuminating conversation, Dr. Beatrice Hyppolite welcomes Viodelda Contreras, a nutritionist-turned-beauty entrepreneur with 23 years of experience helping others look and feel their best.

"Self-care is giving the world the best of you instead of what's left of you," quotes Contreras, setting the tone for a thoughtful exploration of how personal care practices impact our mental wellbeing. From the confidence boost of looking presentable to the stress relief of physical exercise, Contreras shares practical wisdom about creating daily rituals that elevate mood and outlook.

The discussion challenges common misconceptions about self-care being merely vanity or exclusively for women. Dr. Hyppolite recounts seeing a father and three sons enjoying manicures together, illustrating how these practices benefit everyone regardless of gender. She emphasizes that self-care isn't about impressing others but about honoring yourself—and when you feel good, it radiates outward, positively affecting relationships, career opportunities, and daily interactions.

Most powerfully, Contreras reveals how her mental health routine combines physical care with spiritual practices. Prayer, Bible reading, and meditation form cornerstones of her stress management approach and how her own son later inspired her to incorporate regular meditation into her life. Dr. Hyppolite shares a transformative experience discovering meditation in Italy at a Mother Teresa house, where she felt "peace like never before," 

Whether it's taking a shower with fragrant products, putting on something that makes you feel confident, or simply creating moments of stillness in your day, this episode offers accessible ways to prioritize your wellbeing. Join us to discover how small acts of self-care can transform not just how you look, but how you feel, think, and move through the world.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, I'm Dr Beatrice Ippolit and this is
your world.
Hello everyone, today we have avery special person with us.

(00:21):
Today I don't want to have ashow, I just want to have fun.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, okay, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Okay, our guest for today is Miss Viodelda.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Contreras.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
You know, I didn't want to say it.
Because I didn't want to say itonce.
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thank you, thank you, beatrice.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
And today we're going to talk about a subject that I
know you really value, A subjectthat not only you speak about
it all the time, but you carryyourself as such.
Thank you.
You always like to take care ofyourself and you love to take
care of others too.
Amen.
Our subject for today isself-care and mental health.

(01:11):
Before we even kind of likeaddress or talk more about the
subject, tell us a little bitabout yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, okay.
Well, thank you first for theprivilege and the honor to be
here today and speak aboutself-care and share about myself
.
I'm actually a nutritionist byeducation.
I have a bachelor's innutrition and a master's in
community health.
The last 10 years of my workingcareer, I worked as a public

(01:42):
health educator, slashnutritionist, and I loved it.
However, I decided that Ineeded some extra cash and I was
introduced to the world ofskincare and color cosmetics and
I fell in love with it, andthis coming October 23rd will be

(02:03):
23 years as a full timeskincare and color cosmetics
entrepreneur, consultant,entrepreneur.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And so.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I just love it because everyone needs great
skincare and everyone wants tofeel good, smell good, look
younger and more beautiful.
Because God already did thework.
With a little enhancement, youknow you can make yourself look
different and change your look,you know, whenever you want.

(02:36):
And I love that because itmakes one feel confident, makes
one feel even more beautiful,and when you you have confidence
, the sky's the limit yeah, Idon't recall a time that I've
seen you that you're not.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know that you don't look good you always dress
nice, you taking care of thatbeautiful hair, and you always
have your makeup on.
And because of you, today I gota little something too, because
I knew that.
I was going to sit with you forthis show and I said you know

(03:14):
what?
I have to look good for her.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
But, beatrice, you're always fabulous.
Okay, you're always fabulous,but you're humble.
That's good.
That's good, yes.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Before you know, I start with a set of questions
that I have for you.
I want to begin with that quotefrom Cathy Reed.
Okay, she stated self-care isgiving the world the best of you
instead of what's left of you.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I love that.
Also.
Self-care is giving the worldthe best of you instead of
what's left of you.
Wow, that is profound.
I love that.
I'm gonna make a note of thatand that will be one of my new
models.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Thank you for that I will watch your opinion on that.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, if you were to advise people, well, definitely
you are what you feel like andwhen you take care of yourself,
when you take care of your bodyin so many ways not just
appearance, but making sure youget proper rest, making sure you
eat properly, because someoneonce said you are what you eat

(04:30):
making sure that you take careof your hygiene and also your
physical image, when people seeyou before you even open your
mouth.
They make and form an opinionof you before you even open your
mouth, and so I believe thatit's important that when you

(04:50):
leave, your house.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
You feel good.
So the way you're telling methe way that you present
yourself matters.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Amen, yes, absolutely the way you present yourself
matters.
And sometimes you know youthink and sometimes you know you
think.
And I'll never forget this daywhen I was going to the gym I
just was.
I said, oh my gosh, I don'thave much time.
So I hurried up, you know,didn't do my regular self-care

(05:16):
routine and I left the gym.
And when I left I met someoneand you know, I thought she
could benefit from my servicesand I gave her my card and I
asked for her number and I saidexcuse my appearance.
And she said, oh, don't worryabout it, it's okay.

(05:37):
Later on I realized she gave methe wrong number.
So that showed that it didmatter.
You know, and from that day on,even when I go to the gym, I try
to do a little something.
You know, because you neverknow who you're going to meet.
You know who you're going toimpact.
You just never know.

(05:57):
God uses us all the time.
Someone the other day said tome I was doing my makeup as I
was getting ready.
Do you have to do your makeupevery day?
I said, no, you don't have to.
However, once I leave thishouse, I want to have at least a
little something to enhance,because I don't leave home

(06:20):
without it.
It's like the American Express,just a little something,
because it makes you feelconfident.
It makes you look like, wow,who is she, I would like to get
to know her, and that opens up awhole nother avenue, I believe,
for God to use you, and youdon't do it for anybody.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
You don't do it to attract people.
You don't do it to pleasepeople.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
you do it because it makes you feel good yes, it
makes me feel good, and when youfeel good, others can look at
you and be inspired.
So I believe that when I leavethe house and I feel like, okay,
I can leave the house because Ifeel like I look good, my image

(07:06):
is great.
I know that when I go out,somebody's going to be inspired,
somebody's going to ask me like, what do you do?
I went to one of my son'sfootball games and a father
commented my where are you goingTo a football game?
I said oh no, I just came fromworking.

(07:26):
And you know, he said but youlook good though, you know, and
so it makes people, I guess youwould say, open up to how am I
taking care of myself?
You know, what am I doing formyself?
To feel good, to look good, toinspire others?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
and it's very important that you mentioned
that.
Miss contraire, contrarians,yeah, or you could just call me
veal veal.
Okay, thank you for making mylife simple right.
That's what my family calls meveal oh, but you know one thing
for whatever reason, I like tocall you Lady K, okay.

(08:04):
Okay, that's how I save yourname on my phone, oh okay To
make it simple and easier for meto remember.
You know, self-care is linkedwith it's kind of close to
mental health.
According to research,self-care has a great positive

(08:27):
impact on mental health.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Will you agree?
Absolutely, absolutely.
You could have the worst dayever where things just were not
going right left to right.
And you go take a shower, comeout, you know, put on your
self-care, cleans and take careof yourself, fix up your hair,
even if you don't do a whole,just a little lip gloss and

(08:52):
maybe a little foundation, whichis a protection for your skin,
throw on something doesn't haveto be, even if it's a jogging
suit that you love.
It just changes everything.
It makes you feel like, okay, Ican take the world on now,
whatever is going on, I can dothis, I can do it, I'm ready to
kick it Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And it's funny you mentioned that.
For whatever reason, wheneverthat I you know, if I wake up
and I feel a little bit down, Ilove to take a shower with
shower gel.
For whatever reason, yes.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I don't care for the bar soap, but shower gel.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'll buy all different flavors and I just
take a nice hot shower and Ilove, like you know, like nice
body cream, the really scentedone.
I'll put some body cream, yes,the really scented one.
I'll put some body cream.

(09:49):
I'll put some good perfume andI'll wear something, even
something casual, kind of likeput some music, and before I
even know it, my mood willchange.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Amen Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
I'm happy that you mentioned earlier.
Sometimes you don't need to doit for somebody.
You don't need to do it toplease anyone Because at the end
of the day, I may do it toplease you, you may not even
care, but if I do it for myself,to elevate my spirit, my mood,
I'll benefit from it.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
This is so true, yes, yes, and it really does have
that impact.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
And when we talk about self-care, we're not
talking about self-care for onlyfor women, correct, it goes for
both men and women.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
It's like as a man, if you wake up, you do certain
things.
You make sure you have a nicehaircut.
You kind of clean out niceRight, you know Right.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're gonna feel good yes.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
You know You're gonna feel good and you don't need to
do it for a girl.
You don't need to do it toimpress anybody at your work
True, but you're doing it justfor your own self.
Yeah, and it's very important,very, very, very important for
people to invest in themselves.

(11:16):
I understand that we live in acountry where the cost of living
is crazy, but we can still savea little $20.
You may not be able to go toChano or Hermes or Louis Vuitton
or Balenciaga or ChristianLiboutin, but there are other

(11:39):
places.
Even if you go to Walgreens,regular pharmacy, get something
for $5, $2.
You can have a nice makeup, youknow.
To kind of boost yourself, savesome money.
Go to the beauty salon.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Have some, you know, nice manicure and pedicure, and
it goes for both men and women.
So relaxing.
You know, sometimes, you know,some men tend to say you know
what?
Oh, it's a women thing.
No, when you do it, you'regoing to feel good.
I remember one time I went tothe nail place and I saw three

(12:16):
men.
No, it was four of them.
It was a father with his threesons.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Wow, awesome.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Man, they were at the nail place, they had a blast,
and at that nail place they alsoserve wine, okay, and each of
them had a glass of wine and I'mlike, now you force me, guys,
to train you.
It seemed like a party, right.
I really enjoyed that moment,you know, with them at the nail

(12:46):
place and we spoke aboutself-care, the importance of
self-care, yes, and they werelike, oh, you know what, we big
on that.
We do our nails every otherweek.
And I'm like, oh, so who?
Now I have to change because Ido my every other week.
Okay, so it's very importantbecause he makes you feel good.

(13:13):
Yes, when you wake up, youdress nice, you take a nice
shower.
Many times I see you.
I thought you were going to awedding.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
I remember one time you know, when I met with you,
you know and I'm like oh hey yo,why you think you were going.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
So you dress like that just to me.
But you know but the joy thesmile that you had on your face
that day.
It makes you feel good, even ifyou're not going outside, even
if you're gonna spend the entireday in the house, do things
that can boost your spirit.
It's very important, and somepeople they go to the gym, some

(13:58):
people will go to a yogapractice.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I love Zumba.
That's my choice of exercisebecause I love to dance, and so
Zumba is like dancing.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know.
So my thing is to go threetimes a week, and when I miss I
feel the difference in my body,even in my spirit, how I feel,
you know.
And so, um, it's very importantto find some type of you know,
physical activity that you knowyou can tap into, at least on a

(14:32):
weekly basis and physicalexercise.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
You know kind of help you with some anxiety and
stress exactly.
Oh man, yes, it does so let mestart with my questions now.
Okay, so how do you prioritizeyour mental health and what are
the strategies do you find mosteffective?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay.
So first and foremost okay, Ididn't mention this about myself
I am a born again Christian.
I was raised Catholic and acoworker nurse, when we had
evening clinic, invited me tocome to her church that night.
We finished early and I said,why not?
And I love the service.

(15:18):
I loved everything about it andI was going to the mass and
going to service every Sunday.
You know, until one day Godsaid you could decide it's gonna
be fine.
And so I love praising andworshiping God through music,
through how I live my life,through letting him use me for

(15:39):
others in whatever way, andfirst and foremost is my prayer.
Life I love to, all it is istalking to God.
Prayer is talking to God andwhen you build a relationship
there's nothing like it.
You don't have to speak toanybody else.
You don't have to I mean,sometimes we do to get advice.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Some people are professional.
You can play a major role intotaking care of others.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Exactly Taking care of yourself, exactly Because you
create time.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You know to be in silence.
You know to pray the God thatyou love.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Amen, amen.
And you know I respect allfaiths, okay, but I think it's
so important when you do have,you know, a relationship with a
spiritual being that you canpray, to talk to and feel good
when you're done, and feel peace, you know, and love and joy.
Of course I love life and Ilove to enjoy life.

(16:39):
People sometimes say aren't youever sad?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, there are times, especially when there are times
and I, like you know, when youmentioned when you have a
relationship yes, amen, you knowwith God, because we all can go
to church.
Yes, just by going to church itdoesn't mean that you have a
relationship Amen with God.
But when you create thatrelationship, that bond, you're

(17:06):
going to feel like a differentperson.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yes, yes, and I have to just mention, okay, that you
know, when I was younger, as achild I don't want anyone to
misunderstand In the faith whenI was raised Catholic, I wasn't
really taught relationship withGod.
I thought God was out there, Iwas here.
However, I realized that it istaught relationship with God,

(17:33):
and even more and more now inthe Catholic faith are they
showing and teachingrelationship with the Lord, and
so I wanted to make sure Icorrect that.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
But I I became a born-again Christian almost 30
years ago oh, you know for me,you know who have always been a
Catholic person and I've alwaysbeen part of groups in church
relationship.
I don't know if you just go tochurch, you know every Sunday
you may miss that.
But when you are part of justgo to church, you know every
Sunday you may miss that.
But when you are part of agroup in the church you know

(18:07):
relationship with God will betaught Amen, amen.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
So thank you for affirming that, and that has
helped me tremendously beingable to know that he's right
here with us and I can talk toHim 24-7, 365, when it's a leap
year, 366 days a year, and thathas been such a wonderful

(18:33):
practice of mine to prayanything.
I pray with so many people on adaily basis.
If you tell me right now, likethis morning, I called one of my
mentors and she said she had aterrible night.
Instantly I went into prayerfor her and with her and it
helped her.
It helped me to see that God isusing me.

(18:54):
So I believe that that hashelped my mental health, you
know, okay, and I recommend it.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Let me tell you something I respect people's
choices.
I respect all faith, but Ialways tell people you cannot go
wrong with God.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
No.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
If you choose not to serve.
I respect that.
I'm not God.
I'm nobody to tell you whatyour choices should be, amen.
But at the same time I know ifyou do, you will benefit greatly
from it.
God has been very powerful inmy life.

(19:33):
I would not be the person thatI am today if God was not dear
For me.
I would not be the person thatI am today if I did not allow
him to be the center of my life.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
And I am so on the same page with you.
This is what I realizedespecially recently.
Not everyone is on the samepage, and so God did give gifts
and talents to many, and somehave gifts and talents to help
people with challenges mentalhealth challenges, all kinds of

(20:11):
challenges, financial challenges.
He gave us all gifts andtalents to be used by him, and
so some people, you know, mayneed a therapy.
Some people might need a mentorI have a mentor for my
entrepreneurship, and so Goduses our gifts and talents and
abilities, and so I don't judgeanyone for what they need or

(20:34):
what they seek or what they do.
I do try to influence people,though, to build a relationship
with God and pray, because ofhow it has impacted my life.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
But you know what?
Mentioning about self-care.
So, while you may, he doesn'thave to be directly with
yourself, he can be with othersas well.
I've seen that, the way thatyou always look beautiful,
you're taking care of yourself.
So it's a way to empower me, butat the same time I may not be
in the mood or what have you, orfeel so down and I don't know

(21:12):
how to embrace it.
But you can come and teach methe value of taking care of
myself and all the benefits thatmay come with it, because that
way kind of invest in otherpeople, so showing them how to
taking care of themselves.
It's a great thing to do and,believe it or not, you may think

(21:39):
there are people out there whodon't need it, or people may not
have a need for it.
You'll be surprised how manypeople will benefit from the
help of other people to learnhow to take care of themselves.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yes, yeah, this is so true, so true.
I was called on a Sunday for myservices.

(22:16):
One of my customers said thather daughter was about to lose
her job because they told hershe goes to work tomorrow.
And I said but I don't work onSundays, you know.
But then she says oh no, you'vegot to make an exception.
I felt, you know, okay, I'mgoing to go.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
You feel compelled.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Right and I went that evening and I spent quite a bit
of time with her teaching herabout the skin care even color,
you know and the next day hermom called me and thanked me and
said that she did not wash herface in the morning because she

(22:51):
didn't want to change.
She didn't want to take off whatshe had on because she didn't
know she could repeat it, youknow.
And so nevertheless, I don'trecommend that, but that's what
she did.
And then the mom told me, youknow, she went on the train and
she was getting compliments frommen and she went to work and
everybody was surprised and shekept her job.

(23:15):
So, you know, it does make adifference.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It does, and I'm glad that you mentioned that.
So it's a job related situation, but that could have been, you
know, like a marriage or asimple relationship between a
man and a woman.
Yes, because it's like oftentime I've heard men complaining
about their partners, their wifeor partners.

(23:42):
You know who's not taking careof themselves, or women
complaining about men who tendto not taking care of themselves
.
So, before even knowing, theystart complaining today.
They complain.
Keep on going on, keep on goingon so true.
Sooner or later.
So the cheating will come toplay a role into that
relationship, and before theyeven you know.

(24:04):
Only God knows what the worstwould be.
So it's important you know.
So it's like as a girlfriend, asa partner, a wife, I don't know
.
Whatever the title may be,because nowadays there are so
many titles, I don't want to getconfused.
I want to respect everybody,right, you know title.
So whichever title that you mayuse in that relationship, so

(24:28):
it's important to taking care ofyourself, because if don't tell
me, oh, I'm in the house, I canhave the liberty not to look
decent, I can have the libertyto you.
Know you, hey, you spend thenight in a nightgown or a pj set
, and so it's five o'clock.

(24:50):
The next day and you're stillwearing that and so you didn't
even bother.
You know to go to the bathroomand take a good shower change
and you know I don't ask you towear makeup, right?
I'm not saying that you shoulddo it for the other person
you're doing it for yourself,but the other person who lives

(25:13):
in the house or who around you.
we can benefit from it Becausedon't just wake up, and you know
, you had one sex, you know blue, the other one is red, so you
walking around with no bra.
So I understand, there aretimes where if you are cleaning,
so it's a different ball game.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
So, even if you are cleaning, you still can be
decent.
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
And you have clothes that is whipping all over.
So, come on, present yourselfin a certain way to be
comfortable, to suit your ownmood or and make the other
people around you comfortable.
I always tell people you don'tneed to look flashy, you don't
need to dress, you know, withfancy clothes, but you can look

(26:03):
presentable and decent.
Amen, yeah, you know yes.
So I will not ask people to goand buy Baccarat Rouge or those
iron brand perfume.
But hey, a simple dovedeodorant, you know, can put me
in Can go a long way.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
It lasts me at least 24 hours.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
So when I sit next to you, I will not make you
uncomfortable, and so and I doif I do like this, I'll be happy
and comfortable with the smellof my own body.
Yeah, you know, all of thoseneed to be taken into
consideration.
Yes, people tend to take thingslightly, but at the end of the

(26:49):
day, we can do better.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
We can do better, so when I hear people say oh, you
know what, so I have three kids,I don't have time to do this.
I know women who have five kids, seven kids, but they still
keep good hygiene of themselvesBecause they know, at the end of
the day, the outcome of feelingthat good the entire family

(27:16):
will benefit from it.
So they will be more positivefor the partner, they will be
more positive for the partner,they will be more positive for
their children and there will beless stress involved.
Talking about stress, how doyou normally manage stress and
anxiety?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
on a daily basis.
Okay, well, there are a fewways.
First and foremost, again,prayer and reading my word, my
Bible.
I open it every day and readthe word.
It doesn't have to be a long,sometimes I just read a proverb,
or I might read a psalm, orjust a couple of paragraphs.

(27:57):
You know, and it's so funny, Ihave two ministers, two
reverends that every day I metone through some event I don't
even remember, and another oneshe became my customer but both
of them send me devotions everysingle day, and so I read the

(28:18):
devotion.
Sometimes I miss three days,but I always read every one of
them.
When I do read, it's almost likeI mean it is, you know, the
spirit of the Lord knows whatyou need, when you need it, and
when I read it it's right onpoint.
Okay, okay, then you domeditation too.
I was just about to say I justsit still and focus, you know,

(28:42):
on the day that passed and theday to come, and what was I to
learn from it.
And I just sit still to hear,not an audible voice I can't say
I haven't heard audible, somepeople have, I haven't but just
to feel, and that's how I meanby hearing feel the Spirit of
the Lord.
Give me peace, you know, aboutwhatever it is I'm questioning.

(29:03):
Whatever it is that's ahead ofme, you know, and it helps me to
start my day excited about theday, you know, and thanking for
waking up.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, because Some people don't wake up, because
meditation plays a major role inreducing stress and anxiety,
and I have to admit I justrecently have embraced that,
recently embraced meditation,and there are other things like
the exercising, dancing.

(29:34):
I love music.
What was the?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
reason why, if I may ask yes, you say you just
embraced that.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
So what was the reason why?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
I'll be honest.
My son, my eldest, my firstbornson, came over one day and he
went into the backyard and hetook one of his sons with him,
my grandson, and I says, whatare you doing?
He says we're going out tomeditate.

(30:05):
We're going outside to meditate.
And I thought, hmm, and thatwas like a year ago, and I
thought you know what?
I'm always talking to him, I'mnever being still to meditate
and hear from him and to alsoknow what I'm doing, what I'm

(30:26):
feeling, you know, is it right,is it wrong, is there
indifference, and feel thatpeace.
And so from that day on that'swhy they say iron sharpens iron
I learned from my son, myfirstborn, and you know it
changed my perspective and itchanged a lot in my life,

(30:49):
because it's so important to beable to be still, you know.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
And there's a scripture that says be still and
know that I am God.
Meditation is a very powerfultool that people can use to
alleviate stress, anxiety andeven some symptoms of depression
.
And I remember, oh Lord, thatwas like over 20 years ago.
I was in Italy and where I stay, it was at one of the Mother

(31:28):
Teresa houses and they had theborder of Calcutta and one day
one of them was going to thechurch for meditation and
invited me, along with hissister, and I went.
I was young at that time, I wasin my 20s, and I'm like, oh

(31:51):
Lord, what the heck am Ifollowing the nun?
For?
So the nun's going to pray forthe entire day?
So I joke in my head that way.
So we went to the church and,girl, we lasted almost two hours
.
It was the silence, thisserenity.

(32:16):
I felt that I was at peace.
I never felt peace like that inmy entire life.
I must say I fell in love withmeditation that day in Italy.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Praise God, okay.
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