Bonus Interview: Farbsy, Digital Creator & Musician

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Hey, how's it going? I'm Alex Southey and you are
listening to another episode of your worst song.
But not quite. This was originally recorded
earlier this year or my other podcast that I you're probably
hearing this and going what other podcast?
And that's kind of the beginningand the end of the story of that

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podcast. It was meant to be about.
It was meant to be more general.It was meant to hello Mabel.
It was meant to free me from just talking about music and I
could talk with somebody who is a journalist or who was a, you
know, sketch comedy person or everything in between, a
hairdresser who whatever. And I only did one or two

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episodes because because I'm like that.
And I decided that they, you know, this episode should see
the light of day at the very least.
And it might be a good idea to just collapse everything into
the your worst song feed. And if you don't want to listen

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to it, if you don't want to listen to this, that's fine.
Just skip it and wait till Monday and it'll be, you know,
back to your regularly scheduledprogramming.
But if you do and you're interested in finding out a
little bit more about other people and other walks of life,
let's say, because that's actually the bigger goal for me,
then keep an eye out for these bonus episodes.

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This is the only one I have planned to release right now,
not because I don't want to do more, but because this is the
only one fully recorded. But I'll definitely, it's really
in my interest to do more. And even with the examples that
I gave, sketch comedian would becool.
Hairdresser would be really interesting.
You know, all the way to veteran, all the way to horse

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breaker, all the way to farmer, like whatever painter.
It would be interesting. So I hope I hope people enjoy
this one. It is with Max Farber, otherwise
known as Farby online. I met him as Max when he was
just pretty much focused on music.
And as you'll hear, comedy was always an interest and sketch

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and stuff was always an interest.
But I met him as kind of his hislabel was musician and over the
that was pre pandemic. And then for the pandemic, I
sort of saw him take off with this very comedically fertile
sketch idea online. I think it was mostly tick tock.

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Maybe it was Instagram, certainly both now where he
played a customer service Rep. And the perspective was what you
wish you could say to the customer who is being rude to
you. And so it's all these quips
where he hides his mic and then he says what he really thinks
and then answers the way out. We all would try and be polite
to the customer. That's kind of the joke which is

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dead in the water after me explaining it like that, but I
swear it's funny. Go check it out.
Anyway, he was nice enough to let me re upload this as part of
this feed. So go support Max, support his
music, his bands, doomsday darling, support his online
sketches, whatever you want to call them on Instagram and

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support this podcast. Alright, thank you very much.
You are listening to a bonus episode of your worst song.
Tonight and then the show is tomorrow.

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No, no. Sorry no the show Sunday because
people have been pointing out it's weird that it's SNL 50 and
none of it's happening on. Saturday, I think the I think
they're having like a concert orsomething is happening on.
Saturday it's a musical celebration, maybe by Questlove,
sort of orchestrated by. Questlove did the the 50 years
of like SNL music OK. It wouldn't shock me if he's

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also. Part of the right exactly or
like. The host or something he's
dipping his toes and everything yeah yeah, but with sketch
comedy, like from a young age, really mad TV.
It was like my first kind of foray into like, oh, this is
like really fun. Like I, I love when I'm.
Why Mad TV over what is like objectively more popular?
SNL was more popular I'd say. That's a really good question.

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Yeah, that's interesting. No, I think I just remember like
watching TV and just like mad TVwas there.
I completely agree, it seemed somehow more accessible.
Maybe because it wasn't this golden child like SNL.
And like, I almost feel like as a kid watching Mad TV, it was
just more like it was more accessible and just more

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understandable to my like comedic brain at the time, even
though like my brain was not anywhere what it's like now.
Not to say that it's gotten any better.
You know, but just. Changed.
Yeah, like things like Miss Swan.
Like the character don't remember missing Alex Borstein.
OK. Yeah, of course I remember.
Things like that, like I, you, Ifeel like I wouldn't see that on
SNL back in the. Day.

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No, I would say it was far with with clarity and retrospect.
It was far edgier than anything SNL really.
Does like Bobby Lee and like allthese like people that I still
follow and are aware of? Yeah, I keep reminding myself,
Oh, right they were. They got their start from mad.
TV, yes. Feel.
Yeah, yeah, that's the biggest. Thing and there's so many people
that I think a lot of people forget, yes, came from Matt,

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absolutely. And I feel like also the people
who are on Mad TV were so multi talented and multifaceted.
Like you saw, yes, Alex Borsteinwas on that, but also she's the
Harper violinist on Gilmore Girls.
And she also did the voice acting on Family Guy as Lois,
right? So it's it was just a really
cool mix of people. They're wearing many hats.

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Yes, they're wearing many. And then when I started getting
more into SNL, like I think SNL came right after I started
watching Mad TV. Like I was looking Mad TV.
SNL came quickly after OK and I knew I was like, OK.
I was like, I think I can get onthat show.
My like 11 year old brain was like, Lorne Michaels will hire.
Yeah. Chris.
Yeah, yeah. Wow.
Why wouldn't he? And I would like take a video

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camera and like film sketches was like an 11 year old kid.
They were probably terrible, butI thought they were great.
And I was like convinced that Lorne Michaels would be like
this kid has. It he just has to see it.
Like you like, don't say anything else, kid.
You're fired. Wow.
And I knew I was like, I just wanted there's something with

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comedy and just show business, show business in general.
And then when TikTok and Instagram, when Instagram really
started becoming more of like a video first platform, yeah, but
really more so with TikTok. When that came around, all my
friends were like, dude, you need to post on this app.
And I was like, oh, well, like I, I don't really know what to
do because like, I'm not a Gen. Z and I don't and I don't dance.

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Like that was all TikTok was, atleast for me.
When I first started using it. I had my account for a year
before I started even posting anything.
Oh whoa, cause I was just like, I don't really know what this
app is. It's like.
Crazy. That's so bizarre to me because
I feel like at least the thing you hear now, and this isn't the
same as early tick tock obviously is you kind of if you,

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if you don't like take off instantly, then it's like you
don't want to look at a graveyard of a profile kind of
thing. And that's totally fair.
But yeah, I was nervous because everyone was like, dude, you
have to post. You have to post like this.
Is there was already pressure from your friends circle
essentially? Yeah, they're like, this is what
you've been waiting for. Like, this is where you can do
all the sketches you love, like,you can make them and post them

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on this app. Like, this is what you can do
with it. Like, fuck Lorne Michaels.
Yeah, exactly. This is what you can do.
Right. And for.
Yeah. For a whole year, I just, like,
kind of used the app. I didn't post.
I just observed essentially justso I can kind of, like, get an
understanding of what it was. Yeah.
Yeah. And the more time that I spent
with it, the more I realized, OK, now it's less Gen.
Z's dancing. And now I'm getting like other

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sketch comedy like bits and all these things that really
understand what like, it's what I'm looking for.
Yes, you. Know in general niches are
taking off on there really exactly everything from like
ASMR to sketch comedy to the dancing still.
Exactly. Yeah, I never started posting
with the thought process of, oh,I'm going to become big deal.

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I'm going to get a lot of followers.
I want to like be like. Just that it was suitable to
your sense of humor and. Yeah, and I my whole goal with
this is I just want to make people laugh and I wanna make
peoples days a little bit better.
Yeah, because there's so much shit going on in the world that
like it's nice to get away for ahot 2nd.
Just laugh at something that cantake your mind off of the shit

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that's going on. I completely.
Agree with you? No.
And and it was you were doing that from the start once you
started using it, but there werea few different sort of the
sketches were wider informant until you hit your like your
stride with the yeah, the idea, right.
Yeah, basically I started posting just like random videos

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that I thought were funny. They didn't really have anything
specific about them. Right.
No through line of subject. It was just anything you found.
Just like this could be interesting.
The first video I ever posted onTikTok actually does not exist
anymore because I deleted it. OK because at the time I was
working in sales I was. It sounds so weird to say out
loud. I was selling hearing aids over

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the phone. Which is OK.
That's pretty funny, yeah. So bizarre.
It was actually, it was a reallyfun job and I was pretty good at
it. I like to think I have a good
personality for sales. Yeah.
My main lines consisted of just like saying the same thing over
and over again, but just louder.Yeah, for people, they be like
what I'd be like we're looking at hearing.
A lot of seniors probably and that kind of.

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Yeah, and I, I posted a video that is very similar to kind of
the stuff I post now, which was a video of me being like a like,
here's what we say, here's what we say to customers.
Yeah. And me being like, hey, you
know, Dave, I'm so sorry that I can't help you with your issue,
but I understand the frustration.
I'm going to see what we can do.And I'll be sure to reach out
once I, once I can help you. And then it cuts to an even

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closer cup of my face and it says what we really want to say.
And I'm like, Dave, listen, you're fucking 92 years old.
You're probably going to die soon, little piece of shit.
So you know what, Maybe you should just be a good person and
calm the fuck down. So that kind of stuff.
And I posted it and it got like,I think maybe like 1000 views.
But I was like, I was like, I don't want my employer to see

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this because they will fucking fire.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
So I took it down. I took it down.
And then I was like, OK, I can'tpost work stuff because if I do
that, I'm going to lose. I'm never going to get a job
again. Yeah, you can't do something
that cuts that close to what you're actually doing.
You know, going back to music, Istarted posting videos of like,

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hey, I'm going to sing this song, but I'm going to sing the
harmony do at this video with me, sing the melody and let's
sing. Together, right?
Right. OK, I did that for a little bit,
and I posted a video of The Sound of Silence, and I was
like, I'm Garfunkel. Yeah, I'm going to sing Paul
Simon's Harmony, which most people don't sing when they sing
The Sound of Silence. Everyone sings art.
Garfunkel parts, that's very smart.

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You essentially went with the straight man part versus the
more colourful Yes, like the other part is the show off you
want some people want that one. So it's smart to make yourself
the the platform or the settingslike whatever you want.
To sing the sound of silence. You go.
Hello, darkness, my old friend. You're not gonna go.
Hello darkness, my old. Friend, I know I always, it took
me so many listens to that because you're so attracted to

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the Garfunkel section. Once you do start paying
attention to what Simon is doing, it's so like monotonous
throughout. It, but it it's so simple.
It's it. Works beautiful.
It's beautiful. It would be worse if both parts
were complex. Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. So the simplicity of it is
really unique. Yeah.
So I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna I'm gonna sing

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the harmony. No, like see if people do it.
And a couple of people did. And then Dan Povenmire, who is
the Co creator of Phineas and Ferb.
Oh, whoa. Duetted me twice.
Whoa. For all the Phineas and Ferb
fans, he is not only the Co creator, he also does the voice
of Doctor. Doofenshmirtz the best character
I would argue other than the platypus or.

(12:06):
Whatever. Perry the Platypus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he deleted me twice.
Once he was singing by himself as he was like sketching out a
picture of Doctor Doofenshmirtz,and the second time he sang it
as Doctor Doofenshmirtz. Damn, that's pretty.
Cool. And I was like, Oh my God.
And at that point, had you developed any sort of following
other than what you could say islike, you know, people who know

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in Toronto or. Canada, I mean, at that point I
had like maybe 2000 followers, OK.
So, you know, like. Decent, but nothing you expect
to like, grow up on or anything.Yeah.
And then that video was like my first real viral moment.
OK, I think it got, I don't knowwhat it's at now.
Like I found it recently becausepeople still do edit to this

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day. And it's.
Like right, it's still available.
There four or five years ago, like it's from like it's like
the early days. Yeah, yeah.
If you if you stalk me enough, you'll find it, you know, but I
think that video got up to like 4 or 500,000 views and that was
that was where I was like, oh shit yeah, this is this is what
I have to do now because my thought process was that when

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you go viral for something, that's that's you, right.
That's who you are now, right. You can't do anything else.
So I was like, oh shit. It's like being instantly
typecast. Exactly.
Yeah. I guess I'm the harmony guy now,
right? Like I didn't, as much as I love
music, I didn't want to be knownas that guy because comedy and,
and, and acting and sketching and all that stuff, that was

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really a lot more satisfying. Exactly.
And it gave me a lot more creative freedom because there's
only so many songs that I could harmonize to that are like fun
to sing along to. It's going to get firing a
totally. People are gonna be like, dude,
like fucking do something. Else there's a finite number
with that, absolutely. Exactly.
Yeah. So I was like, OK, I'm just
gonna keep going with these Simon and Garfunkel songs.
So I did like The Boxer. I did.

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I think I did. I'm a Rock, which is like low
key one of my favorite Garfunkelsongs.
And then I did like, all I have to do is Dream from The Everly
Brothers, which is like, still like, I fucking love that song.
And great, great band to choose for harmonies.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but once again, there's only so many Everly Brothers
songs that I'm familiar with andalso that I can easily figure

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out the harmony to that people are gonna be like, Oh yeah, I
wanna sing to this hmm's. And then I very quickly realized
I can't, I can't do that. But from doing those videos I I
reached 10,000 followers and that was a big deal for me
because I was like, Oh my God, Iwas like OK, maybe this is like
something I can continue. With.
So not counting the first year where you just observed from the

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time that you started actively posting to let's say the 10,000,
what was that? That was like, I think that was
maybe like 9 or 10 months. That's making pretty good speed,
yeah, yeah. Wow.
So that's why like my brain was saying like this is like, course
this could be something so maybeyou should keep going with it.
But I knew. I knew in my gut I was like,
this is not what I want to. Do.
Yeah, it's not. What I want to do at all, and I

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don't know really what made me do the pivot.
I just like I think I knew I wanted to do sketch comedy and I
was at a new job. I was selling restaurant
technology. Like what the fuck is that?
Even you. Know, and I hated my job there.
The people I worked with were great.
Sure, everyone there was amazing, but I just, I knew that

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I was not good at my job. And I remember so vividly it was
my birthday. I never, I usually never work on
my birthday because no one should ever work on their
birthday. I always would take a day off.
But I figured, you know, stuck at home, it's COVID.
I'm just going to work and, you know, make some money.
My birthday. I have nothing else to do.
You know, I'll just be a lazy piece of shit tomorrow.

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You know, it's fun. Yeah, exactly.
And I remember I was in an all hands meeting.
It was like noon. I was bored as fuck.
I had my microphone muted. I had my camera off.
I'm wearing my Jabra headset. And I had an idea for a video.
I was like, oh, shit. Like I have an idea.
So I filmed a video of me and itsays POV.
You work in customer service. And I'm like, I'm like, John,

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thanks so much for calling. And hey, you know what?
My apologies for any miscommunication.
You have yourself a great day. Take care.
See you later. Then I hang up and I go, fucking
idiot. It's an 11 second video.
Yeah. And I posted it, I was under the
impression at the time that withTikTok you should post and then
leave the app because I, I thought that if you leave the

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app, the app will push your content more because it wants
you to use the app. It wants you to go on the app
and when you're not using. It as in just exit the app OK
OK. And if you're not using it,
they'll be like, oh, we're goingto push yourself more so that
you feel the need to. Check it and you'll you'll see.
Video doing well and you'll use it more yeah, I I don't think
that's true, but I was I swore by that at the time I mean.
It makes sense understand the thought process.

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Yeah, like it. It's something they would do if
right. If they could, it's.
Yeah, very true. Yeah.
So I didn't look at my phone foran hour.
I closed TikTok and I was like, OK, I'm, I'm, I'm not going to
look until like 1:30. Which is a long time, honestly,
in this day and age, honestly. After an hour, I went back on my
phone and it was at 200,000 views.

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Oh, it's like, that is a lot. Yeah, that's a lot, a lot.
And I was like, OK, I'm not gonna look at my phone for like
the rest of the day because I just wanted like, I want to get
the growth going even more. I wanted to like see where it
can go from like 1:00 until 9:00.
I did not even open TikTok. And my brother called me later
that night and to wish me a happy birthday.

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We were chatting and he's like, he's like, how's your, how's
your video doing? I saw you posted earlier.
It seems like it's doing well. I was like, yeah, I was like, I
looked at it like 1:00. It was like pretty fucking
crazy. Like 200.
There's like 300. It was like in that general
area, but I haven't looked since.
He's like, oh, he's like, well, like dude, take a look, I wanna
know. And I looked and from that time
it had jumped to I think around 900 thousand.
Wow, And I was like, wow, it waslike that is fucking these are.

(17:49):
Cities, yeah. Essentially, you're reaching,
yeah. Literally, literally.
And I was like, it might hit a million.
Oh, my God. This is like, this is a big
moment. Yeah.
And it hit a million. And to this day, that video has
been viewed, I think, just around 7,000,000 times.
That's insane. Which is, like, nuts.
Yeah. Yeah.
And that was the moment I was like, I could do this.
Wow, That I I could find ways tokeep this kind of bit going

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where it's not the same thing every time but it drives home
the same message. Yeah.
And so how does it, how do you take it from that just
generally, OK, I want to keep going with this idea.
How does it tangibly change oncethat many numbers happen?
It can, and you can take that inthe financial direction, but
even just in how you approach the app and maybe how they treat

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you. Yeah, I mean, TikTok is not
reached out to me. OK, OK, OK.
Never conversed with TikTok? OK, not yet.
At least I don't. Know if I want to now I feel
like I lowkey kinda get the ink from the app.
Now. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's been so much drama and stuff that's happened.
Exactly. But yeah, I mean, looking at it
when it changes in that kind of sense was very interesting

(19:01):
because you kind of have to lookat it from almost like a
business. For 100% turns.
Into something way more than just an app that you go on.
Yeah. And I'm very lucky because I, I
feel like I've always had a bit of a business mindset growing up
where I'm like, if I ever like when I was younger, I really
wanted to be an actor. And that like fame was a big
thing for me back in the day. I gave up on it because I was

(19:23):
like, fuck it, like I don't careanymore.
But I always, when I was a kid, I was thinking if I ever
achieved some sort of notoriety or fame, like how would I handle
myself and what would I like? What would I do differently?
What I keep the same? Right.
And so in a way, you've actuallysort of mentally prepared for a
version of this. Yes, I unintentionally like was
ready for it, which is like a weird thing to think.

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About, I also think there's something that I've thought
about a lot because obviously I'm really into music and the
arts. And so I thought about that same
idea is, you know, the age you become famous or famous or
whatever word you want to use. Yeah.
It seems like it's obviously harder on people the younger
they are. 100%. I think that people who sort of,

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let's say peak at or or not evenpeak, but begin, begin their
peaking process at like 30 or onward or 29 or onward.
They are in a really different spot compared to the people in
the early 20s who make up the bulk of the famous people that
we know, and they come a little more hopefully well adjusted.
I would hope so, but it's thingslike that that make me so

(20:30):
thankful that I didn't have TikTok and stuff like this in
high school. My God like elementary.
School because why did we have the very basics of Facebook,
Snapchat? Yeah, Snapchat.
Yeah, like I I don't even go on Snapchat anymore.
Like I haven't used it in forever.
That was probably the closest thing, and it's not even
remotely this I. Mean the only other thing that

(20:50):
reminds me of it is Vine. Yeah, Vine is similar to TikTok
and Instagram Reels a little bit.
Totally, Yeah, totally. And like, fucking rest in peace.
Divine. I know.
Dare I say ahead of its time. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
But yeah, I, I think it really, you kind of see it from this new
light of like, ohhhhh, it's kindof like a business now.
And like now I I am a business. I've incorporated as a business,

(21:12):
right? I was like ready for these
things to happen, but it's very bizarre because I'm very careful
now with like what I say online and what I do in general because
like it. Is your livelihood.
It is my livelihood and I'll be like walking down the street and
people I I can tell when people recognize me, people will come
up and say, oh, hey, man, like Ilove your videos.
I love thanks so much. Nice, which is great.

(21:34):
And I actually, I very much enjoy when people do that
because I like that people feel comfortable enough to say, hey
dude, like I really like what you.
Do not to mention it's positive.Yeah, exactly.
But I can't tell you how many people will walk by me and just
like look at me and not say something like I can tell that
they know who I am. Oh, that's funny.
So I'm always like, my brain is always like, you need to be on

(21:55):
your best behavior. Yeah.
Is that a weirdly inhibiting thing?
Like it makes you nervous? Kind of.
It, I mean a little bit like it's funny, I was at a music
festival last summer at Bonnaroo.
I'm like a huge, huge fan of Bonnaroo and I went back in like
2019 and a couple years before then.
Bonner was the Southern. University and yes, it's in

(22:17):
Manchester, TN. OK, gotcha.
Great festival. The first three years that I
went, I wasn't on social media or like that wasn't.
Just some. Guy, my life, my life was very
different. But this time when I went kept
getting recognized by people there, Wow.
I was like walking around, like on mushrooms and like all this
stuff. So I like my subconscious was

(22:38):
like, you need to behave. Yeah.
Because you don't know who knowsyou And I shouldn't have to
worry about that because like, who?
Like at the end of the day, who fucking cares?
You know, someone could be like,oh, I saw Farby at Bonnaroo when
he was fucking tripping balls and be like, yeah.
So if that heavily affects them,that's more of a judgment on
them than. You 100%, but I can't help but

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think like, oh, I need to like be the best version of myself,
which I always strive to be thatcourse, of course, but that's
from a moral perspective. You don't mean it from like a,
you know, as though a camera wasfollowing you around all the
time. Exactly.
But now like, it's, it's a very weird thing that I'm ready for,
but it's, it's kind of annoying sometimes where I'm like, I'm

(23:21):
like, I know that I could just be myself and I do try to be
myself, but in a lot of social situations I'm like, Oh, I got
it. I got it.
I can't drink too much wine right now.
Like I don't want to be that guywho like, spills wine on
someone. Like fuck, now I'm gonna like,
live with that. Right, right.
Yeah, Yeah, that's true. But what?
But what an interesting A game to play, you know what I mean?

(23:43):
What an interesting and so interesting that like, I feel
like sometimes in certain artistic communities, someone
will say like you need to look at yourself as a brand.
And it seemed that it's seen as like a dirty word to some
bohemian type artist or whatever.
But I feel like for you it is the correct term and not in that

(24:05):
ugly way that they think becauseit's the goal posts are
different. You know what I mean?
There's you're, you're getting into sketch and that is, is, is
in bed with show business in a way that some abstract music
isn't or whatever. Right.
Yeah. So, but anyway, I just want to
say that's a really interesting position to find yourself in and
how you then lead your life. Yeah.

(24:27):
And you have so many, you have awide array of interests.
Yeah, this is obviously the moreyou pursue it in a, in a way it
must feel narrow after time. Not it doesn't mean it's not
satisfying. I just mean, I know you and you
have other artistic interests, so how are you also pursuing

(24:49):
those in addition to doing what you're?
Doing no totally. I mean, I try to balance
everything out as well as I can without overwhelming myself
because balancing a full time, like being a full time, like
content creator, which is like so fucking weird to say out
loud. Yeah.
Yeah. But doing that and, you know,

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working with Doomsday Darling, my band, Yeah.
And like, you know, there's a bunch of creative endeavors that
I'm working on that I don't wantto talk too much about, but but
I'm excited about it. It's it's tough just because I
want to give everything the sameamount of time and respect that
they deserve. And there's only so much time in
the day. Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. So I tried to keep a good

(25:31):
schedule because like when I started doing this full time, I
knew I was like, OK, I need to treat this like a nine to five,
at least as close to a nine to five as I.
Can that was gonna be my next question is how do you actually
divvy up the day in a way that feels like a work day as opposed
to if it was me and I was in your position, I would have no
schedule and not be able to maintain?
It, well, I totally got that. And it's funny because when I

(25:53):
was younger, I always thought ifI ever like worked for myself, I
would just do whatever the fuck I want.
I would wake up at noon. Ice cream when I wake up.
I scream for breakfast, man. Like AY TV commercial.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I knew when I started doing
this whole time I was like, I need to keep this as scheduled

(26:15):
as I possibly can because if I don't do that, I will become a
lazy sack of bones and I'm goingto lose the passion and drive
that I have for this. So I remember I woke up the 1st
morning after getting let go from my job when I really like
looked very much had this as a full time thing because I like
to consider I did it full time in quotations.

(26:37):
OK, like even at other jobs would still be like, sure, yeah,
doing this, put it first. Absolutely.
I I remember waking up and my wife Kelsey was like, what's
your like, what's your plan? What are you going?
To do you wake up and she's already like staring at you next
to you and. That's like, what are you gonna
do? And she wasn't, she was like
asking like generally she was like, she was like.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm joking about it.

(26:58):
Being judgmental. She's asked.
Yeah. Asking an apartment.
Way, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said I'm just gonna go,
I'm just gonna go to work. And I that's exactly what I did.
I just went up to our like, likeshared like workspace area what
we have and just started like coming up with more ideas for
videos. I started filming.
I just treated it like I would as though I had another job to

(27:19):
do. Yeah, but I didn't have to go to
any other job. Forgive me for the way I'm
getting to this question is fromprojecting on to you of myself.
I would have had a crisis of confidence being let go.
Even if I had this passion to rely on that was generating an
income at a certain point it would have still been a really

(27:41):
scary thing. Like what?
I was just curious what more of the mindset was.
Yeah. No, no you didn't.
Just. Turn the page and you're like.
Totally understandable because for a while when my page is
taking off I would be getting brand deals from like companies
as I was working at these jobs that were paying me a salary.
OK, a lot of people were saying dude, just fucking.
Quit. Just Yeah, exactly.

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I was like, Nah, it's like, I'm going to let them fire me.
I'm gonna keep this off. Quit or whatever they're calling
it. Quit, quit, quit, quit, quit.
I'm going to let them continue to pay me a steady salary.
Absolutely, man. And then when they fire me, I'll
get severance. Fantastic.
Which which was which was great.Yeah.
And that's exactly what happened.
But I knew I had a moment where once I kind of clued into like

(28:24):
what was happening because even as the page was growing and
growing, I still wasn't fully aware of like, how big of a
thing it was. Yeah, Right.
Because like I still try to not think about it too much because
when I really look at the numbers.
Freaks overwhelming. Yeah, yeah.
And also it's like it's your first foray into this, so why
would you know? Why would you have a a completed
perspective? On it, right, Yeah, exactly.

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So I like, I don't really know what happened, but I I just
remember when I got let go, I felt like a weight was lifted
off of my shoulders because any other job that I've been let go
from, you best believe I get on the subway.
I'm fucking like crying. I'm trying not to like, have
people notice me. You have insane impostor
syndrome that that you realize. Oh, it's finally justified the

(29:06):
impostor syndrome that I had, right?
And that was the first and only moment of my life where I got
fired from a job and felt amazing.
Yeah, I felt so good. Wow.
Like it was literally one of the.
Aside from my wedding, it was like one of the best days of my.
Life. Because it was.
It was this, it was this. I, I totally understand that I'm
picturing that Nicole Kidman leaving the have you seen that

(29:28):
picture where she's super happy?But no, I totally understand
that because it's almost like not only was the weight lifted
off of you of not having to go to that job anymore, you didn't
have to make that decision. It was made for you.
Yes, fantastic. Yeah, it was a beautiful moment
and I feel a little bad because I did enjoy my job.

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And I'm sure the people were cool.
It's just great. Yeah, I knew that regardless of
any job I had while I was growing this channel, yeah, I
was replaceable. Yeah, they could easily let me
go and find someone else a week later.
And it's justified because you weren't at that time, honestly
focusing as much as you could have.
Yeah, theoretically. Yeah, yeah.
And I knew that for my page likethat is me.

(30:12):
That is not replaceable. You know, people try to copy it,
but it's me. Which has happened in the past,
few jokes have been pulled or whatever.
Yeah, people have like people have like phony like accounts of
me. It's like fartsy under score
oht. Yeah, it's just.
Like seeing that? Reposting the same videos, mine
1 has like 12,000 followers and I was like OK I was like this is
like that's pretty impressive. Pretty funny actually, yeah.

(30:36):
No, but no, they they all have me blocked because I like people
will send me their profiles. They're like, hey, just so you
know, like this is like this persons impersonating.
You and so they'll block you so that.
You so I can't see it yes right right right and then I'll like
take my wife phone I'll be like can I just like look something
up for a hot 2nd no like 7 like pharmacy under score pharmacy .2
ohm my God it's insane so. Walk me through the thought

(30:58):
process there like you don't make money on on Instagram
account that has only 2000 followers or whatever theoretic
mostly. You can but or you can but it's
going to be negligible compared to what they theoretically are
wanting to make. Yeah, but by the time it reaches
like 12,000. Yeah, they're actually siphoning

(31:19):
some shit from you. I think most people, yeah, I
mean like I think most people are they're going to wise that
is that it's a fake profile because a lot of them are follow
me on Telegram OHS just like I don't even fucking know what
Telegram. Isn't Telegram like a right wing
social media sort of things? OK, yeah.

(31:40):
So like a right wing WhatsApp? And they'll say like, oh, like
made this new page to connect with my friends and fans.
And it's like, First off, I would never fucking say that.
Like when am I ever going to be like, hey, guys, like I'm going
to make a new page to connect with my friends and fans, right?
It's just so. It's not your voice.
Not my voice at all. So most people who have messaged
me about the profile, they've said, hey, I've reported this

(32:02):
page because this is very obviously not you.
Good. Wow, that's nice.
Yeah, it's amazing because I think also I've developed this
voice from my page where people know when it's me.
It's very witty, very sarcastic,biting.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I think when they see something like that, they'll be
like, this is not the guy for sure.

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Who the fuck is this? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right.
And and so I'm just more I'm also just curious from a almost
like not to be like high falutinabout it or anything, but like
from a social viewpoint or almost like anthropological
thing. It must be an interesting
experience to become well known because you you become an

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experiment in how relationship or parasocial relationships
change with you and people startinteracting with you with this
preconceived notion already built.
Oh yeah, yeah. So what is, do you have any, I
guess, remarks on that or experiences with that where

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something stood out and you're like, Jesus, this would not be
the way this person would be speaking to me, good or bad, if
they just knew me as me. Dude, I got a crazy fucking
story, OK? Perfect.
Parasocial relationships in general are so bizarre to me.
Ask any creator or any celebrityof any kind about parasocial
relationships. Yeah, they'll tell you it's a

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nightmare, right? It's a nightmare.
So bizarre. So bizarre because like, at the
end of the day, we're we're, we're people.
Are. People, we're just people.
And then when they realize that,they're disappointed, which is
so funny. So here's the craziest thing
that has happened to me with like a a fan and I'm using I'm.
Using when I saw that hold on, can you hold on one second
because I would like to have a coffee.

(33:49):
Can I get you a coffee? OK, so there was just a break
there because I needed coffee and.
But we were just about to get into what you're sort of, for
lack of a better description, weirdest fan encounter social

(34:11):
example. Yeah, so.
The funny thing about this is that this is in the very early
stages. This was like right when the
page started taking off. Maybe like maybe like a year in,
I had like, I think maybe 40,000followers at this point.
It was like, which is still realsizable chunk, about sizable
chunk, but you know, it was, it was in the very early days.
Yeah, I was in Niagara Falls forone of my best friends bachelor

(34:34):
parties. Wow.
We were staying at a hotel, I can't remember the name, but we
were in the lobby. We were waiting for my buddy
Corey. He is the bachelor.
We were waiting for I think his brother and one other guy to
come downstairs. So, and there were about, I want
to say eight or nine of us. And then we're waiting in the

(34:55):
lobby. We're just like shooting the
shit, whatever. And then I hear a woman scream
at the top of her lungs. And something you need to know
about me, Alex, is that if I hear something like a scream or
whatever, I'm gonna immediately go, worst case.
Scenario. Oh yeah.
OK so my first thought was someones.
You're inside of a tragedy. I was like, we're about to be in
like a fucking mass shooting or something, like something,
something awful was about to happen.

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And I, I look around and I just see this woman who's like I
think she was in her like maybe mid 30s just staring right at
OHP, that's weird. Staring right at me, like smile
smile, horror movie, eyes wide open.
And she points at me and she goes ohhhhh my God.
I follow you on TikTok and I, I'm like Ohm, like, that's cool.

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And all my friends who I'm with,they've never seen this happen
before. Yeah.
And and at this point. It must be like ripping you like
Ohhhhh. I can hear them being like, yo,
dude, what the fuck? Yeah.
The whole shit at this point, getting recognized had only
happened I could probably count on one hand.
Yeah, yeah. How many times it happened.
It was very new. And it probably wasn't like.
That it was not like that like people would walk by to be like,
yo, you're the customer service guy.

(36:01):
Like, yeah, be like, OK, sick, awesome man.
Have a good day. Yeah.
And that would be it would be onour way, which is ideal.
Ideal. So she's like, I follow you on
TikTok. Was like, I was like, yeah,
thanks. And gives me like, essentially a
bear hug. And I'm like, oh, I'm like, OK,
like we're in it. And she's like, she's like, I
love you. I was like, I was like, thanks.
Like that's so kind of you to say.

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I really appreciate that. She's like, can I get a picture?
Was like, of course. So we take a picture, we take a
couple of selfies and she goes, oh, my God, I have to tell
Amanda or whatever. And I was never her friend.
Yeah, I was like, sure. Was like, is she like here with
you? Like, I'd be happy to say hi to
her as well. And she goes, no, she's like, I
have to face her. I have to FaceTime her.
Geez. And I'm like, ohhhhh, God.

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And then, like, my friends now are like, like, this is it's
time to go. Yeah, they're thinking what?
I'm thinking which is. We got it.
We gotta make moves. Yeah.
And she has her phone out. And I hear her friend.
I hear Amanda on FaceTime. I hear her go like Stephanie,
like I'm at a gala event. I can't talk right now.
What's what's going on? And she goes, Amanda, look who

(37:04):
I'm with right now. And she turns the phone to face
me. And I'm looking at her phone.
And yes, Amanda was at a gala and she's in a very nice dress.
She's in like a a wreck hall of some kind.
And her friend on FaceTime looksand she goes no fucking way.
Oh my God. She starts freaking out, like
freaking out together. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm

(37:25):
like, I'm like, yeah. Like, hi.
This is really teetering betweencharming.
And weird right at the moment, yeah, I don't know whether to be
like happy about. This or like never show my face
in public. Never exactly where a balaclava.
Everywhere you go. Yeah, exactly.
And I was. Like, I was like, yeah, I was
like, well, like, nice to meet you.
And then her boyfriend was with her and she goes, babe, babe, I
need a picture with him. Take a picture, take a picture.

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So surely gonna she's well. She took a selfie, but she
wanted. Like, I guess like a non selfie.
OK, Yeah, yeah. She's already hung up on Amanda.
You know, whatever, that conversation's done.
And the boyfriend takes the phone and this guy looks pissed.
He's looking at me. And I was like, hey, man, how's
it going? He goes, what's up, bro?
Well, when's the last time he got that reaction?
From her right, Yeah, yeah. So he takes a picture and.

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She looks at me again. She goes, I love you.
I was like, I was like, no, I was like, thank you so much.
That's really kind. And she goes, no, no, like, I am
in love with you. OHP.
And I was like, thank you. Like, that's so like, I I love
you, you know, like, yeah, like,thank you so much.
It's really kind. And I was like, listen, like,
this has been really great. But I I'm with my friends.
It's, you know, my buddy's bachelor party.

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We're going to head out and she goes, oh, she's like, OK, I'm so
sorry, but can I get like two more pictures with you?
What the fuck? And I was like, OK, So we took
like two more selfies and one prom photo, 2 selfishly.
So then we're walking out and I hear her, like, screaming as
really. She's like, Oh my God, that
whole thing. And my friends were like, bro,
what the fuck was that? Yeah, that happened often.

(38:50):
And I was like, no, no, that does not happen.
I just witnessed history. Yeah, I was like that was.
That was the first. Like, I will not forget that.
And my buddy Corey, the Bachelorgoes, dude, I don't care.
Whatever happens the rest of this weekend, that was the
fucking highlight. That was insane.
And as we're walking out of the hotel, a random woman, like an
older woman comes up to me and she goes, hi, Sir.

(39:10):
I'm so sorry. Can I ask you something?
And I'm like, yeah, what's up? And she goes, Who are you
constantly? Humbled instantly.
Humbled, hilarious. I was like, man, thank you.
So. Much I was.
Like, I'm like, I make videos onsocial media.
And she was asking because she had seen the.
Scene play out or she was just asking because she recognized
your face a little. She what?
She witnessed. OK, I see.

(39:30):
I see. So she was like, what's the big?
Deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was like I. I'd make videos on social media
that's hilarious. She just looks and she goes.
Good for you. Going from a maladjusted person
to a well adjusted person was like, thank you so much man.
Like. Thank you.
So that was I, I think that veryoften.
That's pretty cool, though. It it, it was neat.

(39:52):
It started off very like funny. Yeah.
And then it hit a point where I was like, I was like, this is
like a lot. No, I haven't had.
Something like. That happen since OK thank fuck
this is an invite so. Anybody out there?
Yeah. Bear hug.
Exactly. But no, there's been the whole

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idea of parasocial relationshipsis really crazy because what
I've noticed is, you know, mainly on Instagram.
I'll post videos almost every day, Yeah, but if I ever post a
picture or something about my personal life, oh man, all lose
tons of followers, all bets are nothing that matters.

(40:33):
Like if I lose, I lose fucking like 300 to 400 followers
everyday, right? Oh yeah, yeah it's crazy but I
make from posting what you post just from.
Yeah, yeah, just on like. A casual day I'll lose like
anywhere from like yeah 2 to 400and you can just see it either.
Be better or worse and based on kind of what you post wow that
because and analytics are very. Very real and do you think?

(40:57):
Maybe for lack of a better like terminology, do you think it's
because they, there are just some people who only interact
with you in a way that where they're like, we see you as a
human product essentially and I continue pumping this out,
please. Yeah.
I think it's it's a mix. Of what What I think is it's a
mix of that where it's like, hey, I follow you for funny
videos. If you're not giving me funny

(41:19):
videos, then fuck you. But I also think there's a good
chance that people just have forgotten that they followed me.
Who is this guy? Like, OK, And then it's a
political post and it's like. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
right. But they they don't like.
When I post about my wife, huh. Well, it's.
Because of women like that, right?
When they're like, I'm still love with you, right?

(41:41):
So like I. Posted about our wedding
anniversary like not this most recent one because it was our
five year anniversary in October, but I posted about our
four year anniversary, OK I posted like a carousel pictures
from our wedding, right And I was like, I was like, look how
hot my wife is like essentially yeah and I like people A lot of
people were commenting being like, this is amazing I'm so

(42:01):
happy for you guys yeah, but I Itake a look at my analytics all
the time I can't help it. I'm a numbers guy.
Sure, I hate math, but I'll lookat the analytics.
Yeah, and I. Saw a.
Dip. Major dip on the day that I
posted that carousel where I lost like almost like 1000
followers. I mean, you hear about that as
forever. Right.
Like I think going back to even like Elvis, they didn't want for

(42:23):
awhile people to know that he was involved with anybody
because the Bachelor is more interesting.
And obviously you see the same things happen with women.
Like if they like if Sydney Sweeney posts a picture with who
she's dating and not just herself.
People like what the comments are savage kind of thing, right?
And yet she didn't even sign up to be an Internet personality.
It's like not even the same as you know.

(42:44):
But anyway, that must be very bizarre.
But it's cool that you do have the analytics.
And also, although you were sortof, I would say, defending it in
an understandable way that you were looking at your analytics.
Think about how weird it would be to speak to a business person
and have them go, I never look at my books, you know what I
mean? So it makes a lot of sense.
That's that, you know, thank goodness you look at your

(43:07):
analytics. Otherwise it's so true.
You know, it's a ship without us.
So true. I.
I've spoken with some creators in the past who are like, Oh
yeah, like, I don't really look into that stuff because I think
there's a lot of people who havestumbled into becoming a creator
right where they don't realize that it is a business.

(43:28):
Essentially, it is a job as muchas it's fun to do, and it's
exciting exciting to be stumbledinto a.
Viral thing, but it's a job to continue to exactly and and if
you go. Into it and you don't really
have that much of A business mindset It it'll it'll destroy
you, right, Because think about taxes.
Yeah, like think about taxes. People are like, do you put
money away for taxes? And I'm like, fuck, of course.

(43:49):
Exactly. Of course it's going to come.
Back to bite me in the ass in April there was a really good.
Video for good Brittany Broski. I don't know if I know she.
She's good. Name the.
Kombucha team girl Oh OK yeah she feel like they probably.
Have like a huge thing like she has like.
Her own podcast now as well. Oh, she's great.
She's very funny, OK, But there was a really good interview with

(44:10):
her where someone they were saying to her what's the most
important thing that creators should know?
That most of them don't really think about it.
And she goes taxes, she's like, you need to put money away for
taxes otherwise you're fucked because you are you're
incorporating as a business. So you're.
Self-employed? Yes, you're self.
Employed SO. If you're.
Making good money and you're notputting any of it away.

(44:32):
Tax season will literally destroy you.
I want to if you're comfortable.We don't need to get into
numbers, but I want to get into maybe as a as a lesson to
anybody listening to this interested in pursuing what you
did like just speaking generally, what should you do in
that position? OK.
You incorporate yourself and then what basically?

(44:54):
I put depending on how much money you're making, you put a
certain. Amount aside for.
Taxes. So like I was starting off at
like putting 30% of any brand deal that I got, 30% of that
went into taxes. OK.
I would have like a tax account where I would just keep it there
and then tax season comes around.
I don't have to worry about it. You don't have to deal with it.
You just shove that. Money there and if you have some

(45:16):
money leftover, great. Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. That's the really the most.
Important thing is like you wantto incorporate at a time where
it feels right because you don'tneed to do it right away.
Yeah, what does that mean? Feels right.
When basically if. If you're hitting a point where
it's becoming a full time job and you have something specific
that you don't want people to take from you, get yourself

(45:40):
incorporated. So like, I I took the name
Pharmacy Inc is the name of my company, my business because I
didn't want someone to take Fartsy.
Yes, I see. Cause like that would have been
I I'm sure it would have come upwith another name, which is
fine, but that's what people know me for.
It makes sense. Yeah.
And. I figured you know.
What I mentioned to incorporate a while ago, it actually that's

(46:03):
what I was going to ask if I canask.
Like even just even like a numbers way speaking in
hindsight, when should you have incorporated and when did you?
Yeah. I mean, it's I'd probably.
So I incorporated within the last year like it's it hasn't
even been a year of me being an actual business.
Wow. OK, that is more.
Recent than I would have thoughtOK, I realistically should.

(46:26):
Have done it at least at least ayear and a half ago.
OK. Like I probably should have
started thinking about it way more when I was at my last job,
yes. Or at least gearing up, kind of.
Because my thought process was Idon't need to.
Incorporate right now I have a full time job, I have a nine to
five like I I'm OK and I understand that mindset.
Yeah. And then I just had a moment

(46:46):
where. I was like, I should probably do
something about this like just to be safe.
And so when you incorporate and you're.
Putting money away. I guess my question is what is
the difference between doing that versus just getting a
savings account as your regular self and putting money away for
that, writing things off? For taxes, business expenses,

(47:09):
and if you shoot a bunch of your.
House, which I think you do. Then you get to write off like
rent my Internet bill. Laptop still everybody wow so
you can really save yourself it really all comes down to taxes
and when I say when you say write.
Off and I'm going to pretend to be dumb about taxes when you say
right off does that is that justgiving you a essentially a

(47:31):
certain amount off of what you would pay for that or is that
literally like you're right in that shit off you don't need to
worry so you basically from. What I understand like I I have
an accountant who helps me with this because I'm terrible with
nothing, but it's good to share that too.
People don't want. To have like an incorrect image
of you. Yeah, yeah, like HST.
For example, like I have an HST number.

(47:52):
OK, so now like if I work with Canadian companies, I have to I
have to charge them and HST number comes from.
When you are incorporated, you can.
I'm pretty sure you can. Get an HST number without
incorporating, OK, I think it's it's ideal to have both, OK.
But then you basically anything you do for HST that you write
off, you like you get the you get the tax on it back, Yes, OK.

(48:16):
OK, I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
That makes a lot more. Sense than getting it free.
You don't, Yeah, you don't get it.
Like. Fully written was like why would
everyone just become their own? Business and then write
everything off. Yeah, deal.
OK, I'm. Also, like you don't wanna do it
for too many things because you like if you get like audited
like I haven't, I've never been audited, but like I'm very
selective. So like I do it for my yeah, my

(48:37):
phone bill, Internet bill, because I'm using that all for
the business, right. It is a legitimate as.
Opposed to the CR is like we're auditing.
You like explain this. I'll be like yeah, of course.
Well, right. I film on my phone right and my
phone I pay my phone whereas if they see like OK you.
Bought a bunch of cases of champagne and you wrote those
off? Or you know for yourself, not

(48:57):
for some event or something or or like why is why did you use
this money to get a hairless cat?
You know exactly. But The thing is, if you buy.
Something and it's used in your work even once you can write it
off. So if you used a video with your
hairless. Cat.
You can write it off Yeah, wow, that's crazy.
And you don't have a hairless cat.
That's me continuing the allergic to cats, which is why
you. Could get a hairless cat.
Exactly. But like for example I got.

(49:19):
A new guitar strap recently, andI filmed a video where I was
playing guitar and I have the guitar strap in it.
And I was talking with one of my, like, financial, someone on
my financial team. And she was like, you could
write that off if you want. And I was like, I was like, I
didn't even like, think about. Right, Of course.
So now part of me is like, do I just go and get a new guitar?
And that's true. True.
Yeah. So it's.

(49:40):
Well, especially between that and Doomsday darling.
Which obviously you haven't incorporate or I don't think
you've incorporated, but I mean it's sort of it kept to be
interrelated if you were audited, you could argue that
exactly. Yeah.
So it's. It's handy to get an HST GST
number. It's handy to incorporate just
so you can own your name, especially if it's something

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specific because like, you just want you.
Want to play it? Safe and like I think it's even
more important if your name is something that can be taken that
could have another meaning, yes,right, like someone actually.
Owns. Pharmacy.com It's a random like
sports writer from Pittsburgh, Ithink.
I think his last name was Goldfarb, but he I guess people

(50:22):
call him Farby, right? Because when I was looking at
putting a website togetherpharmacy.com has already
taken Wow. I was like, I was like, I was
like, what is that the kind of thing that like?
Let's say you get you get all the money you could ever want.
Is that something that you wouldgo after to be like, come on
man, I want this, so I'll pay you now.
I got pharmacy.ca better patriotic and ended up working

(50:43):
out. Yeah, that's great.
Yeah. So that's a.
Very funny thing though, the only thing that I would have
like considered at the time was someone has Farzy on Twitter.
Oh really? Yeah, so right.
And now our perception of. Twitter has changed Exactly.
Like I don't even go on like. Twitter X whatever the fuck.
Yeah, I don't even use it so it doesn't bug me at all.
But my name on Twitter is far isat Farby on TikTok.

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Oh, because I couldn't just use Fargey some random woman in
like, I think Iran has it. OK.
Yeah. So like at the beginning I was
like, a part of me was like, do I message her being like, hi, we
don't know each other, but like,can I any chance we could swap?
Yeah, like. Do you have like any backup?
Names that. Yeah, yeah.
But. I don't think.
It makes sense the way you kind.Of worked it out, which is to

(51:26):
just try and use it as a funnel to tick tock.
So they just go, OK, he's on TikTok exactly.
You got to connect it all. Somehow, so I feel like that was
a good way to do that, but I'm also like, I can't remember the
last time I posted on Twitter. Yeah, fair enough.
Exactly. Yeah, that's kind.
Of gone down the train for a while.
I mean, it was just in general toxic for a while, even before
Elon came on. And then once it came on, it was
like clubs were off absolute mess.

(51:47):
Yes, Yeah. President Elon.
Yeah, well, I feel like I wanna get to sort of the last third of
what I wanted to talk to you about.
And both you and I love the BlueJays.
We love. It's not gonna be all about
that, but it's sort of a way to continue talking about what
we're talking about. So just as a jumping off point,
you you got a Santander jersey in, you know, expectation of him

(52:14):
coming, correct. And tell me more about that.
Yeah. So basically.
My whole thing with the Blue Jays was like, I literally, I
live and breathe baseball. Like all I do when I'm not
working is I play the Show. Like I love MLB The Show or
whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, anytime a new. For people who don't know,
that's the baseball version. Of like Madden, Yeah,

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essentially. Anytime a new version comes out
every year, I get it. I don't give a shit and
everyone's like, the game sucks now.
I'm like, OK, I'm gonna do. I don't.
Quick aside. About that, don't the games
aren't they sophisticated enoughnow that they update the roster
anyway? So what is the benefit of buying
the next game they add? Like very subtle.

(52:56):
Changes to them that like, if you really think about it, it's
fun, but like a lot of people like, oh, they need to change
way more. Like it needs an overhaul of
this and that, right? I don't give a shit.
Yeah. Just like that.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, exactly. But I've always.
Loved baseball, specifically theJays.
And of course, they reached out to me back in like August last

(53:17):
year. I don't think I realized it
started with. Them Oh, it started with that.
That has to be the most. Flattering thing in the.
World I Well, I. Went to an event with Xbox, OK,
and they were like hey, like if you tag the Jays they'll they'll
feature you. I was like amazing.
So I tagged them and they featured me in a post or like in
like a story of theirs. They re shared my story because
we went to a game against the angels where we fucking crushed

(53:39):
them. Yeah, yeah.
And is that when they still had Otani and.
No, no, this was like lassie, lassie.
OK, OK, gotcha. And.
Then I got a message from them on Instagram and they said, hey,
we have a thing going on called work from Dome and we would love
to have you come to the stadium,film some content and we'll

(53:59):
we'll treat you to a game. Isn't that just sort of kismet
the way that? Works out because what if you
had landed on a different comedysketch and then they would have
never had the work from Dome? Literally.
Yes, literally that's. Wild.
So like what if I was still? Doing Simon.
And Garfunkel, be like, hey, we want you to play Sound of
silence. Yeah.
And then throw the opening pitch.
Yeah, you do the anthem or something.
You know I would never want to the anthem, right?

(54:20):
Maybe I'd be kind of cool. But.
They're like, yeah, when? Yeah, we, we'd love to have you
come to the to the Dome. I was like, are you fucking
kidding me? Like, of course.
Like you don't even have to ask me.
I'll just show up. Yeah, right there.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I I went and I. Met.
I met the like. When I say the team, I mean the
social media team and I got, they brought me in for batting

(54:41):
practice. I got to like be on the field
and I was like, except like BobaFett was like right at the where
the door. He was like steps away from.
Oh, that's crazy. And.
Out of curiosity. What's What are we?
What are we? Just generally, what's the age
of the social media team there? They pretty young people from
the ones I met there. Around this, I believe they're
on the same age as me, like I'm 31.
OK. I think they're late 20s, early

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30s. Yeah.
OK, cool. That's what I would.
Expect yeah, yeah. And I filmed a really fun video
there. They gave me a a City Connect
jersey that has fartsy on the back.
So custom pharmacy Jersey? Which is like.
Do you wear that or do you have it?
Hanging up somewhere in your house?
It's in my closet. I wear it to every.
Jays game. I have, of course, every Jays
game. Yeah, yeah.
And then with the. Santander Jersey.

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It showed up at my door very recently just from nothing.
From nothing. They just.
And the letter said like, hey, like with spring training right
around the corner, we wanted like, you know, get you pumped
for. That's so cool.
Yeah. With our like our.
One of our most exciting additions to the team.
And I love Santander. Yeah, he was like he crushing on
Baltimore last season. Luckily, he's he's like he's.

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One of those players. That he's a perfect.
Fit for here, but he's also one of those players that sort of
most people who are fans of baseball and Toronto, they
usually just follow the Jays andthen you get to know some
players if they come to town. But Santo Tear was like already
more famous and transcending just the fame of his team.
He was like league famous. So it's cool.
Exactly. So it's awesome to have him in.

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Toronto that jersey was is a perfect fit.
I might wear that next time I goto.
I'm going to probably switch it up for, but that Harvey Jersey
is just, you know, now you just need to keep like.
Trying to get different jerseys from them.
I know, I know, I know, but I have.
The the city connect and I have like the dark blue for
Santander, which is amazing. Yeah, that's good.
Next up is the powdered blue. Yeah, I love the powdered blue

(56:28):
Jersey. Powdered blue is cool.
I love the red. That they wear on the one on the
day I had a nameless. Red jersey OK, I don't know if
they still wear them though, cause I think they may have
stopped that yeah cause they weren't like you're right they
weren't doing too well when theywore them No that's true I think
now in their. Place maybe is actually at the
city connects? I think so.
I think so. Huh.
But yeah, and hopefully I got todo more with the Jays because

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they're amazing and they seem game, you know?
Not just make a joke about it the game, but yeah, yeah, wow,
that's exciting. So is is and then I'm I'm we can
bring up who else you worked with, right.
We, the person that I'm probablygoing to bring up, OK, about
Riley. Riley.
Reid Yeah, yeah, OK. So I we spoke separately about

(57:10):
how that came together because Iremember seeing that and going
who's that? No, but yeah.
So how does that come to be? Because the baseball thing is a
little bit more. Yeah, immediately understandable
with with Riley that. Was also kind of like she, dare
I say she initiated first right,because she she had left the
original industry and. Now she's trying to do like some

(57:31):
similar things, online content stuff exactly.
And I was at. My job one day and I got a
notification. I'm just on Instagram and I saw
that she started following me and I was like looking around.
I'm like, I'm like, what the fuck?
I can't just like, I can't sharethis.
Yeah, right. I don't like I'm in.
I'm in an office. Like I can't share it.
And yet I wanna bat. Signal this to the city to tell

(57:53):
everyone but like, I can't tell.Everybody right now yes so I
sent it to my friends. I was like, guys like this is
amazing look and a friend of mine was like, you need to DM
her right now. And I knew I wanted to, but I
was like, I don't even know whatI say, Like, hey, like great
work, like like I don't really know.
So I sent her a message. I said, hey, you made my whole

(58:13):
year by following me. Huge fan.
Keep up the great work, OK, which I thought was just like a
nice slash funny thing. And at that point, when she'd
reached out? She had already moved on to
making Internet content. Yeah, yeah.
OK. And when I sent.
That message to her, I was readyto like either get no response
or seeing a heart. OK.

(58:34):
Or heart double check, Yeah. What I ended up getting was a.
Paragraph from her where she said, Oh my God, she's like,
thank you so much. You're so kind.
You're like a video of yours popped up on my page and it's
just, it really hit a personal note with me because I'm dealing
with a lot of employee issues because she she is a business
owner. She has her own clothing line.

(58:54):
Oh, I didn't know that. Wow.
She's, she's like multifaceted. She's doing.
That's cool. No, no, no.
Yeah. She's like I'm dealing.
With a bunch of like I'm dealing.
With some employee issues and your your video just kind of
like like struck it yeah yeah a personal.
Bought and like. You know, we all know that our
phones, like, listen to us. And I think it just knew.
Right. Right.
Right. See this video.
Oh, wow. So she said, honestly, like,
thank you for making your content.

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Like, it's really funny. And like, keep up the great
work. Right.
She's like, you keep up the great work.
Yeah. That's crazy.
And I was like, I was like, oh, my God.
Like, thank you so much. That's so kind.
And then we just kind of, like, would chat back and forth.
And then I went to LA to go see a good friend of mine.
And my same friend who told me to DM her, said you need to try
and make a collab. Yeah.
Yeah. Figure something.
Out and that that at this point,if I may ask yeah who who has

(59:38):
more followers on social media oht her her she has like over 2
million OK yeah. OK.
And so. OK, cool.
Yeah. And I.
I sent her a message and I said,hey, coming out, coming to LA
for the first time in October. I I know you're busy.
So am I, You know, we're busy people.
But if you have time, I'd love to, you know, film a fun video

(59:58):
with you. I remember you mentioned when we
were first chatting that my video helped you feel better
about the situation you were dealing with.
So hopefully we can make a fun video that makes people feel
better the way I helped you feelbetter.
Yeah. Wow.
That's nice. Yeah.
And she said I would be. Honored.
Oh, cool. And I was like, Oh my God, this
is very real. Yeah.
Yeah. So I basically thought to
myself, I was like, how can I come up with a fun video that

(01:00:22):
doesn't alienate people? Because like it's it would be
very different. You know, it's like working with
like an adult film star. It's like very out of what I
usually for some people who are more.
Judgmental or more like puritanical.
That'll be enough for them to throw their arms out.
Exactly. Yeah.
So I. Basically thought to myself, I'm
gonna, I'm gonna come up with some ideas where if you know,

(01:00:43):
you know, yes and if you don't, it's a bit of a win.
You can go to a profile. And you'll figure it out.
Pretty quickly. So we ended up filming 2 really
fun videos where it's like, oh, when you recognize the new
coworker and I'm like, I'm like,are you in movies?
She's like, yeah, like I have done a few.
Right, right. It wasn't that guy in.
It's like, yeah, I was like the girl too.
And she said yeah, I was there aguy and a girl at the same time.
Like I think so and. Then the other one was like

(01:01:04):
when? You don't know who you're
interviewing. And it's just, like, filled with
these, like, sexual innuendos. Sure.
I'm like, I'm like, dude, what do you think about solo work?
Do you like working in teams? And she's like, oh, she's like,
I'm great. Like with either.
Like, I love both. Yeah.
And we had a blast. So I have a few questions.
About that one is How do you write that?
Are you just batting ideas back and forth with each other?

(01:01:24):
Is it? So I came up with the idea.
And I sent it over to her because I was just like, like
the premise of it. Yeah.
Yeah. I was like, what?
Are some just like fun? Like, sexual innuendos that,
like, makes sense in a working environment, right?
Where once again, people would say to themselves, wait, like,
what's going right, exactly? And then if they know, they
know. And it's still all clean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when I was in LA with her in

(01:01:46):
Pasadena, we were going through the script together, and she was
giving me some great lines. She was like, wait, she's like,
how about we say this? Oh, that's funny.
I'm like, dude, are you fucking kidding me?
Like that's amazing. What a great line.
And it was so much fun. And I remember we had a we had a
moment at the end where I was saying to her, I was like,
listen, like, thank you so much for just giving me this
opportunity. This is like very surreal.

(01:02:08):
Like I actually can't believe this is happening right now.
So thank you for allowing me theopportunity.
And she said no, no, no, like, Ireally need to thank you because
I've wanted to do, like, sketch comedy like this for so long,
but no one's really given me theopportunity to show that I could
do it right. And I was like, no, I was like,
of course. Well, like, I'm like, happy and
honored that you, like, felt confident to do that with me.

(01:02:30):
She said, yeah, she's like, well, like, think about it.
You know, when you think of my name, the first thing that comes
to mind is not going to be sketch comma.
No, no, no. I was like, that's fair.
And she said she's like, this was so much fun.
Like, I want to do this again. So if you're ever in LA, please
let me know, and I'll let you know next time I'm in Toronto.
However, there. Yeah.
So yeah. Like, we've kept in touch.
Yeah. That's so wild.

(01:02:51):
And it's nice that she sounds very nice and that kind of
thing. And I guess that's a story for
another time, but just the way that you can get pulled away
from what you initially want to do.
And it sounds like she really was really interested.
People were commenting on the videos being like how did this?
Happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And my only answer was the worldworks in mysterious ways, which
is true. Which is true.
Absolutely. Listeners, if you haven't seen

(01:03:11):
them, go look up those videos. They're pretty funny.
And she's an interview for another time.
That would be pretty interesting, but OK.
And so the only the other thing that I want to ask about that is
just as you said, it was your first time in LA.
First time. Yeah.
And again, similar to you, we'reboth like sort of pop culture
obsessives, I would say. And we've we're beginning to

(01:03:33):
find our like, you know, parts of, you know, I'm beginning to
find my way in it. And all that leads me to say you
must have had preconceived notions about LA just like New
York. So what was it like going LA?
Was neat. It was very, very hot.
Ohk OK, I was saying when did you go like July or something?
It was, no, it was like early October.

(01:03:54):
OHS that one. It's really hot.
Well. It was just a weird.
I think it starts. To get cool towards the end of
October. Ohk OK.
Like it would get chilly at night, but here in the day, like
I also burn very easily. So like I'd be walking like
Starbucks in the morning. I'm like fuck, I should have
brought water with me. I'm fucking dying out here.
That could be like a Firefly in LA.
Video. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it is really it's fun. It's very big.

(01:04:18):
Everything is like you have to drive everywhere you have to
drive. If you don't have a car, you're
fucked. Yeah, to get from.
So I'm staying in Echo Park and Riley Reed was in Pasadena, OK
to get there, I was looking it up on Google Maps.
Driving was about like 17 minutes.
It was almost an hour on public transportation.

(01:04:38):
I have buses. And shit everywhere yeah, but
it's just like not sustainable. That's insane, not helpful.
It like takes a long and don't they actually part of the?
Transit, they actually have a subway system, but people are
like apparently don't venture onto.
I have never, I never saw it, no.
I've never seen ensure that it. Exists.
Yeah. It's yeah, but.

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It reminded me a lot of Toronto because there's like different
sections. Like Hollywood, kind of.
Feels like like the West End. It feels like very like everyone
like likes to go there, but it'skind of dirty as well.
Like walking on like Hollywood Blvd.
It is only dirty. I would.
Say it's kind of, it was kind ofgross it's.
Pretty gross. That's like a very much the
thing. It's like, oh like no one

(01:05:19):
actually likes to go there. I know, and that's the irony of
it one it. Being called Hollywood Blvd. 2,
having the Hollywood stars there.
Yeah. And three, doesn't Kimmel show
shoot there? So yes, I actually went to his
show. While I was there, it was the
first show back once the writersstrike ended.
No way. Ohgi was great.
I look, it's weird that Kimmel'slike an elder statesman now.
You know, he's been around long enough, like Conan obviously is,

(01:05:41):
but he is now doing podcast stuff.
So I just mean on late night TV.Yeah, I like him.
I have a soft spot for Jimmy Kimmel.
I don't know what it is, but he's become.
More kind in like the last 10 years.
Or something. But I went to the troubadour as
well. I saw.
The Glorious Sons play Troubadour, which is very cool.
Do you know them or you're just sort of a fan from afar sort of
thing? Funny connection my.

(01:06:03):
One of my first my first ever assistant manager for my first
retail job ever is married to the lead guitarist.
Ohhh wow what a weird SO. Random the.
Multiple any. Artistic scenes are actually so
small in Canada, it feels like, you know that the Toronto music
scene like. Everyone's connected.
We're probably second or third. Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah, no, absolutely.

(01:06:25):
It's it feels insanely small, but LA was really cool.
Everyone's trying to make it there and which is helpful
energy there. Right, like I was at a cafe
working. On a couple of scripts and
everyone around me was working on their screen.
Yeah. I mean, it's like it's like a.
Known cliche thing, right? That's where people go, and I'm

(01:06:46):
just like eavesdropping on theirconversation.
Like you know, I think the thirddraft should have more of like
the main this on page 20. 7 and I'm like.
Class guys like what the fuck are you talking if the twist
doesn't happen by page? 21 people are gonna turn.
Yeah, exactly. No, absolutely.
And but that, that's so cool that everybody there in a way, I
think it's cool that people are very sort of nakedly ambitious

(01:07:07):
there. Because in Canada, to
generalize, we have a bit of that English influence where we
like to play things close to thechest.
And if anybody gets too famous where, where we want to kind of
take them down payment. Everyone in Canada is like, oh,
I'm gonna. Eventually have to move to the
states, yes, to make which like I don't think that's fully true
that I like. I don't think you have to it's
to the states. It's never been less true.

(01:07:29):
I think it definitely, it's fair.
People used to think that, yeah.But the industry is sort of, it
seems like it's growing, maybe not from funding, yeah, but the
Internet has helped create opportunities significantly.
Yeah, Like I have no. Plans on leaving trial like I
fucking. Live here.
I love it here, but would you spend more time?
Going to LA or New York or otherhubs would I would probably.

(01:07:52):
Spend a little more time just tokind of establish more of a
presence there exactly. But I would never.
Want to live there? No disrespect to anybody in LA
or New York. It's just too much for me.
Yeah, and also I feel like you. Yeah, it's not a, it's rarely a
personal thing with, yeah, not wanting to live somewhere.
It's a you have an issue with the administration or just with
the way life is there or whatever.

(01:08:13):
Yeah, like I have no plans on. Going back to the states as of
right now exactly, unless something comes up where I'm
like, I can't say no unless there is another.
Term, You know what I mean? We we may have just seen the
king take power. Honestly, who fucking knows?
Yeah, exactly. No active plans on going to the
states? Yeah, soon.
Fair enough. And.
So OK then, then let's talk about Canadian other hubs like

(01:08:34):
Montreal is a classic one, Vancouver is Hollywood N air
quotes. Yeah.
So what about those I I feel like.
Montreal specifically, if you'redoing stand up, I feel that's
because of Yeah, well, just. For laughs until all that stuff
collapsed though, right? JFL is not a.
It doesn't. Yeah, I think so.
I hope they. Find funding again, but it.
Was this like cornerstone of thestand up community?

(01:08:56):
So like, I'm not a fan of Quebecin general.
I don't really know many people who are, but no disrespect.
But yeah, I mean Montreal. I do like Montreal.
Montreal specifically. I've never been to Vancouver.
I've actually never been West ofOntario.
You gotta go to Vancouver man. Now it looks as good as
everybody says, and it rains as much as everybody says.

(01:09:18):
True. Yeah, Yeah.
So I can't. Really speak on Vancouver.
I like Montreal. Still no plans on moving there
either. I would go to hang out like
pockets. I got married.
We had a little mini moon. In Montreal, we went there for
like a couple days. I like the idea of a mini moon.
Yeah, you. Don't need to do something if
you want to sure, but the idea of no pressure and just going

(01:09:39):
for a little yeah because we actually.
Got married right before COVID, like we got married October of
2019. Wow.
So we were like, oh, let's just go to Montreal for a couple days
and then we'll we'll go to like the South of France or something
later, which we did end up doingOHP years later.
I feel, I feel like as. Even the greatest relationships,
yeah, if you if you had gotten married right before the

(01:10:03):
pandemic, I would be concerned for that relationship even if it
was. Amazing going into it you.
Know what I mean? So, but it's clearly everything
is going well and we've been together.
It'll be. As a couple, we're having our 14
or 15 year anniversary in November, but we've been married
for five years. That's amazing.
Yeah, no, that's crazy. And I guess I guess the last
thing I wanted to talk about, which I give you a little

(01:10:23):
warning on yeah, is and I think this relates to you even more
than some of the other people I speak to on this podcast,
because you are sort of wrapped in fame in a way is what you
think about legacy. And I guess I well, I I
explained to you the perspectivethat the context of this before
off Mike, but the context was Speaking of another mic, the

(01:10:44):
fight with Mike Tyson and Logan Paul.
Mike Tyson lost. I saw an interview after and he
said legacy means nothing to me.And I thought, OK, that's an
interesting conversational jumping off point.
Yeah, I mean, I think. If you would have asked me this
question before social media waswhat social media was, I think I
would have a very different answer for you.
OK, Like if you were 30. One, but in 2005, yeah, cause

(01:11:08):
like I think. Legacy, regardless of what you
do or who you are, I think it's,I think it's almost more
important now because everythingis, is available, commented,
everything's documented. Everything is out.
There before legacy was reserved.
For people who won wars or were major artists, you would only
really have a legacy if. You like, had something like

(01:11:31):
that? Yeah, it's like generational
change. Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. And I feel like now.
Like I, I haven't really thoughtabout my legacy, but I
subconsciously am aware that my legacy is out there.
Yes. Like even when once you get once
you gather a. Identity that is bigger than you
in any way that begins to impactwhat your legacy will be right.

(01:11:52):
Yeah. So I'm very.
Aware of the legacy now, I stilldon't know if my legacy won't
have as much of an impact as many others.
No, no, of course. But you know, I, I do think
about it because really everything is everything's
documented. Yes, everything is out there
now. It's all being laid out on the
table that social media now is like, you're getting so many

(01:12:14):
deep cuts and glimpses into people's lives that like, even
if you don't want to have a legacy, too fucking bad.
You now. Have one at least the.
Size of your friend group and bigger.
Basically yes, if you've posted on TikTok regardless of if.
You've had it viral or whatever,Yeah, it's gotten 5 views or 5
million. You have a legacy.
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, no that.

(01:12:34):
Makes a lot of sense. And I so I, yeah, I just
wondered if that affects how you're sort of steering the ship
of your life. I mean, I'm not.
I don't think it steers anythingas of right now, but I am aware
that it's something to be reminded of right when it wasn't
in your mind to. Five years ago because like, as
like a teenager. No, you don't think about
anything. Anything.
Like that? Yeah, that's.
The end of that sentence you don't think?

(01:12:55):
About anything actually. But yeah, I am aware.
Of it, I do think about legacy, but not in the sense that I'm
gonna let it overtake anything that I do.
Yeah, right. I guess.
Good point. I don't, Yeah.
When I said steer, I guess what I meant was just impact.
But I don't wanna. Yeah, of course you shouldn't
live your life according to how you think you'll be remembered
later. Like my legacy is out there.

(01:13:16):
Right now, I, I, I add to my legacy at least three to four
times a week. Yes, yes, with this you are in a
way. Exactly this is and now added to
the. Legacy.
OK, well this is I have a last. Question if you don't mind.
And it's it's related to this and also comes from another
thing that I just watched. One, are you familiar at all
with Andy Warhol, the artist Campbell soup cans and paint?

(01:13:38):
OK. I just watched a four part
documentary on him that came outon Netflix.
And one thing that he talked about, one thing that he's
really famous for is coining the15 minutes of fame.
Yeah. And I wanted to have your take
on that because you entered in ain a, an arena where there are a
lot of 15 minutes of fame peoplemaybe even more often than what

(01:14:02):
we think about like actors or yeah, but you are.
Not you have. Sustained it.
And so I guess I'm just curious,one, if you think that's a
correct take that there are more15 minutes of fame things
happening there. And two, obviously some of it
was purposeful and the way that you were able to keep things

(01:14:23):
going. But also, I guess I just want to
hear more about it based on thatprompt.
Yeah, with, with. Regards to the 15 minutes of
fame, I think more and more people are getting that 15
minutes, but it's like Andy Warhol.
Called it like 40 years earlier,basically.
That's what happened, yeah. But I I think with social media.
Being what it is nowadays, like,you can extend that time, yes.

(01:14:46):
It doesn't have to be 15 minutes, right?
And I think a lot of people don't really know how to extend
it. That's the thing.
Yeah, even if they. Want to.
Even if they want to, a lot of people don't.
Want to though, right? Which is fine cause think about
all the. People who go viral.
For just like a crazy video thatthey filmed with, like they're
not planning on like, doing anything else, right?

(01:15:07):
Yeah, that's their 15 minutes. They don't want to extend it,
but it's a roller coaster ride and then.
They get off of that roller exactly, exactly and then like
OK, like I'm. Just gonna like, grab a drink
and go home. Yeah, Right, right, right.
I yeah. I think the whole 15 minutes of
fame is very fascinating. When I was, when I.
Mentioned earlier when I. Was younger, fame was like
something I really wanted to capture.
And then I grew up and I was like, I don't really care that

(01:15:29):
much. You don't see it in the same way
as well. Yeah, and now that I'm in this.
In this moment of fame that has been extended way beyond 15
minutes, Yeah, I'm now realizinghow many people are still trying
to find their 15 minutes. And when they find it, it's very
interesting to see who knows what to do with it, like who

(01:15:50):
knows how to extend it and it doesn't, which is very
interesting, which is almost a reflection of if.
They understand why they're famous.
Yes, because I think sometimes we'll go, oh, I was viral for
this thing. I was in a grocery store.
It's a random thing. Yeah.
But now I'm gonna start a makeupline and it's totally unrelated.
Now. I don't know what the fuck is
exactly. Exactly with my.
Videos like when I. I read all my comments, not all

(01:16:12):
but like as much as I can because it informs yeah you to
it helps you. Understand the way outsiders see
you exactly right and they're taking.
Time out of their day to like and share.
Leaving a comment. The least I could do is give
them some time back. Yeah, I guess that's true.
That's a good point, people. Are giving personal.
Stories in the comments or they're like dude, like I've

(01:16:32):
dealt with this so many times like here's what's happening my
job right now I'm fucking deal with this shit and this is so
crazy because like it's. Nice that people are taking that
as an opportunity to reach out with something legitimate when
it begins with just comedy. Exactly.
Yeah, I think I've managed. To successfully extend my 15
minutes because I'm relating to them.
I'm giving them a voice that they want to have.

(01:16:55):
It's all these things. We wanna say this out our job.
We wanna say this to customers or coworkers.
We wanna tell them to fuck off. You know, we want to do this.
We wanna quit on the spot and dowhatever.
Yeah. And people obviously can't.
I mean, they can if they want, But it's, you know, who knows
what will happen after. Yes.
But I want to give people a voice where it can be achieved.
But it is not easy. So seeing this is almost like a

(01:17:17):
cathartic getaway, right? It's like somebody else said it.
Thank. Goodness, I feel less alone.
Like I've had people message me being like, dude, like I was so
ready to like quit my job and seeing your videos made me stay
because I realized that like I need to prepare more for like
finding another job. Like I can't just quit.
Oh wow, your videos have really.Given me like a.

(01:17:39):
Piece of mind. So would you say that's?
The best part of the weirdness of the parasocial relationship I
I think so, yeah, like. And going back to like when
people come up and say, hey, like, I love your videos, man.
I That makes me really happy, right?
Because I I. I love that people.
Feel comfortable, comfortable enough to say hey man, like

(01:18:00):
you've made me feel better, likeyour videos make my day or
whatever it is. And also it's like partially
the. Reason that you got into it not
not to make people feel better, although I'm sure you were.
That's a nice thing, but it's satisfying to it must be
satisfying to hear the fact thatthey like the sketch comedy that
you at the very beginning set out to do that.

(01:18:20):
I've like poured my fucking. Heart and soul into so to have
someone be like hey man, I really like your stuff.
Exactly like I was out for a coffee with.
An old. Coworker of mine, like this is
maybe a couple months ago. And as we were chatting, a guy
just came up and goes, he's like, I don't mean to interrupt,
but really big fan. Love what you do.
I was like, thank you so much. And that's the way to do it.
That's the way to do it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's the way to do
it. And it it makes.

(01:18:41):
Me happy that I can make people happy with these 15 minutes.
Very cool. Yeah, I love that.
And I think this was a really good chat.
Thank you very much for coming on.

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