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June 3, 2025 35 mins

I've said it before—entrepreneurship is a grind, and today’s episode is a masterclass in why.


Kass and Mike Lazerow, two people I love like family, just released their new book Shoveling $h!t : A Love Story About the Entrepreneur’s Messy Path to Success*. It’s real, unfiltered, and packed with insights that go way beyond business. We talk about what it’s really like to sell a book from scratch, what surprised them most during the process, and the emotional rollercoaster of launching something deeply personal.

But we don’t stop there…

We go into parenting, mental health, building purpose, and why most people struggle with going backwards financially. If you’ve ever felt like you’re grinding alone, or wondered if it’s worth it—this is your episode.

💥 You’ll walk away with perspective, motivation, and maybe a little fire in your belly to do what matters!


Buy the book now: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Shoveling-Story-About-Entrepreneurs-Success/dp/B0DY21NS7W⁠ 


Follow Kass & Mike:

  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kassandmike/ 


  • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KassandMike/videos 


  • X: https://x.com/kass_and_mike 


  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kassandmike/ 


  • LinkedIn:

    (Kass) https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasslazerow/

    (Mike) https://www.linkedin.com/in/lazerow/


  • Kass & Mike’s Website: www.kassandmike.com 


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