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December 13, 2025 59 mins
What is social coherence, and why does it matter in today’s rapidly changing world?
In this episode, Pa’Ris’Ha and her international panel of co-hosts explore the powerful concept of social coherence as taught in “The HeartMath Solution” by Doc Childre and Howard Martin, with Donna Beech.

Together, they reveal how heart-based intelligence, emotional regulation, and collective coherence can reduce stress, strengthen communities, and bring stability during times of global uncertainty.
You’ll discover how interconnected human energy, heart-brain communication, and group coherence can help communities respond more effectively to chaos, conflict, and rapid change—while fostering resilience, compassion, and collective well-being.


Join Pa’Ris’Ha and co-hosts Geraldene Dalby-Ball (Sydney, AUS), Tryna Cooper (Denver, CO), Gabrielle Thompson (Mt. Beauty, AUS), Evelyn Yllada (Miami, FL), and Marianne Love (Melbourne, AUS) as they dive deeper into practical insights from HeartMath and explore how social coherence can support a more balanced, heart-centered future.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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take the Quantum Leap? Here's Parisha.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Greetings. This is Quantum League book Club and we today
are finishing up something that I find is very exciting
and that would be heart math Solution. I will be
your host today. This is Parisha and my co hosts
are joining and me from different areas of this beautiful planet.
I have Evelyn Yolande who is coming in from Myai, Florida.

(01:01):
We have Loa who's coming in from Sydney, Australia, and
Maryann Love coming in from Melbourne, Australia. And we have
Gabby that's sitting over there in Mount Beauty Australia. So
we have Trina Cooper coming in from around the Denver,
Colorado area, and I'm sitting in my beautiful and wonderful

(01:23):
home here in Arizona. So we're kind of spread out
across the mother and looking forward talking to you today
about heart. Heart is everything. If we really come to
understand the science of everything that we're learning, we will
learn that the heart is always and has been exactly

(01:44):
what we have given credit to the brain to be.
The brain actually takes all of the particular commands from
the heart and distributes it through the body. And that's
something I picked up and worked with better than sixty
something years ago when I first started studying the brain
and the activities of the body and our emotions, and

(02:08):
even then I tried to point out to people that
the charge that we're seeing isn't coming from the brain,
it comes from the heart. And heart math has actually
taken on the science of proving so much of what
we need to be aware of, that we are not
just a body, and that in that we come and

(02:29):
work in this world, in this particular part of whatever
reality you want to claim as a heart. So the
intelligence of the heart has born neurons. It actually controls
things beyond, far, far beyond the body's reach, and is
connected to the galaxies and the universe in ways that

(02:50):
even star wars and all of what we've seen and
call anything other than a miracle, okay, and most of
the times we actually have to say it's pretentious imaginary fiction. Okay,
we even go beyond that in reality, and we're starting
to look more and more at that as we come

(03:11):
into the realization that artificial intelligence is showing us that
there is something there always and what is that something
if not ourself, can get scary, Okay. So we're going
to be talking about that today and finishing up what
we've been reading and sharing and what the co hosts

(03:31):
have actually been carrying week by week on the show.
And in doing that, we're hoping that you actually take
the information that we're giving and the sharing from our
heart that we're offering and doing with it something that
will actually turn your life onto the reality of how
magnificent you are as a human being. And so we

(03:55):
begin to look at the fact that heart math continues
to do resee and updating everything that you feel other
scientists and other research is revealing as to what our
effects are in life and in the universe. So I
hope you visit Heartmth's website very often because, like I said,
there is things changing and moving every day, and as

(04:19):
we move forward today, we hope to summarize what they
offer in the book heart Math Solutions. But can we
tell you that that's a package deal? No, there is
so so much more. It is a I would say,
more carment. Yeah, yeah, a common thought of what heart

(04:39):
Math could be, but by no means the very reality
of it.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
So we're going to start today with Laway and let
her kind of give us an overview of what reading
this book has actually this time and some of my
co hosts have actually read this book more than once, Okay,
So in your case, each co host, I'm asking to
share with you what this particular time and reading of
the book has brought into reality for them, Okay, And

(05:07):
in doing so, we'll kind of do what we did
last week and give you some reminders of exactly what
are the techniques in the particular knowledge in the book
that we're hoping you'll continue to see the benefits of
as you explore yourself, learning of who you are and
what you are is what will change our world, which

(05:29):
will resolve the conflict. You are all peacekeepers. You're all
the evolved necessary of whatever we're afraid AI will be.
You are magnificent intelligence, and you are that that makes
the difference. You are that difference. So let us begin

(05:49):
today with actually plugging into some thoughts that might help
you come to a faster realization of that. Helloway, are
you with us today and what can you give us? Yes?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
I am here, and a key thing is how practical
it is. So I thought I'd start with a couple
of things that I've noticed in my life in this rereading,
and as you said, it's one to reread and there's
always new aspects to it, And then I could just
a couple of other things of how how it's come
up for use with others as well. So one would

(06:23):
be the matter right now of being in a transition
stage where another company has bought the company that I've
been in for a long time, so there's new people,
new expectations, et cetera. And the Heart Math book, particularly
Freeze Frame, is super powerful because any time there would

(06:46):
be and I could give a specific example, say there's
new computers and they have to be a certain way
and they log out after ten minutes and it's like,
there's it's not about the computer. You can get over that,
but it's like am I being micromanaged? What is this?
You know those and you could run away with that

(07:07):
thought process, but it's like freeze frame. What is this
really about? And all of the chemistry goes down? Fine,
then you're in a position to get information and apply that.
And there's examples in the book, but when you live them,

(07:27):
then you know that works. And when I say freeze frame,
it's that particular moment, as soon as the reaction is there,
the bodily reaction looking at just that instance instead of
really being triggered in potentially a whole lot of things
before that, and changing the chemistry, letting it move back
so you're thinking more from your thinking brain rather than

(07:50):
this chemical reaction. That's as simple as it is. And
the process is going to the heart and breathing through
the heart, having that moment, looking at the situation, being
able to see it differently, get new data, move forward.
The other aspect of that is the more the breeding

(08:10):
through the heart has been something I'll do regularly through
this process, the more the heart is opening in its
intuitive state, so there'll be things then where the clarity
comes from an intuition rather than when you could be
in a place of unknowing and you're trying to find

(08:30):
data and find data and who do I need to
talk to and what do I need to find out?
Instead of that, the intuition is higher, the conversations are easier,
the information presents itself, and I'm in a more receptive
mode to be able to hear things as they are
in that moment. So that's an example of the freeze

(08:51):
frame and then the breeding through the heart to move
to that place of greater clarity, and a quick one
I want to share with how it can be used
with other people because this really does relate to any
people anywhere. I had a person close to me that
came in quite frustrated and they didn't want to work

(09:12):
for somebody because they had just come back from a funeral.
And this client had said to them, all, just get
over your dead relative. And that really shook this person.
It was like and that whole section in the book
about yes, you can feel really justified. You can feel
really justified quite often about your reactions and your feelings,

(09:34):
but still it's you carrying it around, and that person
had carried it around for three days and not done
the work, and that whole process. The book gives us
first the recognition that yeah, it's okay to feel justified,
and that's a normal way. However, the fact is, if

(09:54):
you keep on with that in your mind and not
bring it down, not bring it to the heart, you're
the one carrying all that chemistry. And so I was
able to just get my audio version of the book,
get it to that chapter and leave that person with
that chapter so they could just hear that chapter read
to them and they came out a different person. So

(10:17):
that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
And in all of you, because right now you are
definitely going through a whole lot of earth and life changes. Okay,
so for yourself, what in the particular reading of the
book this time, can you share with us all away
that actually were there any particular humps and all that

(10:42):
the chaos that you had to straighten out with your
ex husband, and that now you're moving into a whole
new line of success. Your success in your business is unquestionable,
but now you're taking that success and moving it into
another field of more and greater independence did you find
working in the heart and working with any of this

(11:04):
to give you actually some new momentum that you hadn't
maybe had before.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Massively massively it it took what was academic knowledge of
how our mind works, how the body's chemistry, how we
can be addicted to chemical emotions. It took the academic
knowledge and put it in a place of being applied
in the moment. I think that's absolutely key. And what

(11:32):
that did is not only resulted in managing the internal,
the internal questions and thus the internal feelings, it massively
shifted a care for myself that was really big and
and the acknowledgment of the process.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
That you.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Okay, colonel exclaim she froze. Okay, I afraid the broadcast. Okay,
she might be on the outer limits here. Okay, we're
going to have to move forward, l away. We're looking
at your picture here on our screen, and it's frozen,
so we're going to just move on, all right. Anyway,

(12:14):
I want each of your co hosts to share, Okay,
what are your own emotional awarenesses now that you allow
yourself to look what we've learned in this book and
you're thinking through your heart Okay, remember that when we
think about the comparison of neurons between the brain and
the heart, we've got more in the heart. What does

(12:36):
that mean than the greater thinking is the heart. So
when we start looking at that, you know, what kind
of emotional observation are you making in yourself and any
difference in that would be good for us to share
with our audience. Okay, Trina Colorado, let's see what you
got there. How's it going?

Speaker 6 (12:57):
Oh, it's going really well. And this this book for me,
I'm another one who read it a long time ago,
and this is a reread for me, and I've also
attended seminars which have this was a reminder again bringing
back to mind a couple of the things that really

(13:18):
stood out for me in this book was the fact
that the heart, and this is for those that need
to have like the science behind things, it's that the
heart carries the strongest frequency in the body, and that
we've learned through science that the highest frequency, the strongest frequency,

(13:41):
is what everything else, all the rest of the energy
is and trained to. So once we drop into the heart,
once we start really breathing through the heart, getting connected
to the heart, then every system in the body, all
the chemistry and especially the brain itself will entrain itself

(14:02):
to the heart. It'll all just come right into coherence.
And I remembered I had a scanner that I had
bought years ago. So I went and I grabbed the
scanner and I clipped it on my ear and I
looked at it, and I could see my heart rate variability,
how it was, how my heart was moving. And then
I started doing the breathing and I literally could see

(14:24):
the coherent wave come into effect, and I could see
that the coherence was happening, but I could also feel
it in my body, which was just absolutely amazing. But
Heart Math has these little devices, these scanners. They've got
the meditations and things, and they do free like tomorrow.

(14:46):
It just popped up on my screen today. I thought
that was funny that they've got one on Compassion tomorrow.
So they're still doing the work and they're still advancing
and keeping up even though this book was written back
in ninety nine. The power tools of the heart, the appreciation, appreciation,
the non judgment, and the forgiveness, those are really really huge.

(15:12):
A lot of the people I see coming into our
little wellness clinic are just beating themselves up all the time,
and so I've been adding some of these like freeze
frame and freeze frame is there to take you out
of the mind and drop you into the heart where
the heart lock in. Is one that you can start

(15:35):
out with every morning and just start working with the
heart from the very beginning and opening it up. And
I know, for me, every time I think about it,
or recently, every time I've talked about this book to
somebody or talk to them about one of the exercises,
I just feel myself just welling up, this sense of

(15:55):
like this caring or compassion or whatever, it just wells
up and of me. I can't hold it back. And
another piece that I find really interesting because so many
people that come in are stressed the care versus overcare,
and so many people are so giving, but they don't
realize they move themselves into a place of overcare where

(16:17):
they become very stressed, which is very taxing on their body,
but they're so worried about everyone else that it's actually
taking a toll on them. So being able to sit
and talk with people about where they're at and what's
going on with them. But the one I love myself
that I'm using a lot is heart lock in along

(16:40):
with that core feeling of appreciation, like waking up in
the morning and starting to breathe in my heart thinking
of the people I love or the situations I love,
and allowing beaming love, beaming that care out to all
of those and then completely appreciating them, appreciating what's in

(17:05):
my life. Appreciating it is the most magnificent way to
start the day, and in the day too, by the way,
but start the day, especially if you're working on manifesting
or creating something, because it just puts you in this
amazing space. So I've definitely been talking to so many
people about this, and oh, I can even feel myself

(17:27):
tearing up thinking about it right now. So yeah, that's
what I wanted to share today.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
All right, Okay, let's move on, and Evelyn, what did
you get out of this? You've gone through, especially for
you in this time, You've actually your mom has passed
and you've had to deal with changing a whole lot
of life there because you've been very close with your mom.
She's a major player in your life. And then you've

(17:56):
had to look at changing some business thoughts and things
and looking at the success of where you want to
go and knowing even before all of this came into
the picture, you were sensing a time and a change.
So when you read this book, what were the particular
gifts the book brought for you? And has it changed anything?

(18:17):
And basically, what would you want to share with our
audience as the most important things you think they could
integrate from our learning and sharing here.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Well, as you've just said, yes, I am going through
moment of grief in my life that I have never
gone through before. And it hasn't been the easiest all
the time because it's an emotion that I'm not used to.
I'm not used to sadness. It's not who I am. Especially,

(18:50):
I've realized that that emotion is one that you have
no control over because it just comes over you, like
over nothing, all of a sudden. It comes. At least
that's how I've experienced it. So this book has actually
been a lot of help for me. It's helped me
first when I have allowed myself in those moments to really,

(19:15):
you know, allow the sadness to be there. I realize
how I start getting tired and stuff like that that
I'm in that what they call depleted energy accumulators. When
I read that, it's like, oh, that makes sense with
what's going on with me. So that was really good
because when I'm able to catch it, I just know

(19:38):
that I just need to just change the feeling, change
the emotion, you know, go into the hard space and
sometimes I'll even just put my hand over my heart
just to know, you know, this is where I need
to be. I need to let go of the sadness
and we need to change these emotions so that I
go into that positive space and just let go of that.

(20:01):
So that's been you know, that was the first that
I go with that one, and then also the freeze frame,
like you said, Yeah, I'm going through some major changes.
I mean not only that, you know, the loss of
my mother, who was you know, the my foundation, but
just a lot of changes in the business things that

(20:22):
I've had to fix from her, and just it's just
been a lot. It's been a snowball.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
And how would you say that what you've learned in
the book, or the particular things that you've learned in
the book, how have you used them and how what
you feel are some of the things that we can
pass along.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Like what I'm saying I was about said freeze frame
is one that has helped me when I'm in the
middle of anxiety, like I'm having an anxiety almost a
panic attack, and it helps me bring myself back into
a place of calm. And I think the biggest one
that really has helped me has been the cut through.

(21:00):
It's helped me bring myself back into to manage my
emotions better. It's helping me manage that grief state, even
the anxiety. It's been one that not even knowing that
I was really doing cut through from before, now I've
honed it more, you know, as I read the book

(21:20):
and I really got the Okay, this is what I
was doing of going back and finding where that those
emotional patterns were coming from, and you know, rewiring that
that hardwire in the brain. That's a huge one that
I think is the biggest gift for me with this

(21:40):
Heartmath Solution book. To be able to do that and
to change the neuropattern in the brain by going back,
finding it and letting it go and just let go
of that hard wiredness and rewire yourself. I think that's
an amazing one that's been the strongest one for me.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Okay, sound very good seeing of that, And how do
you feel what you've learned and what the book has
actually given us. How do you feel that if we
see the integration of these particular techniques and people moving
from thinking as a mind but thinking as a heart,

(22:20):
where do you think our world is going?

Speaker 7 (22:22):
Oh wow?

Speaker 8 (22:23):
If everybody would be able to read this book, get
these techniques down, and just living in that heart space,
I don't think we would see wars anymore.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
I don't see you think we would have all the
stuff that we see, the ugly stuff that we see
in our world. I think we could manage that just
by knowing that if we just came from that heart
space and finding that beauty and everything, I think that
changes everything. I truly feel that.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Okay, that's good. Well, I agree with you. I believe
that if people can start looking from their heart and
stop we're all kind of jaded. I mean, if by
the time we're twenty thirty years old, we're full of
programs and environmental influences, and in our world today, everything

(23:14):
we're subject to isn't just what actually is taking place
in our homes, which was basically more a situation back
in my younger days Okay, and at eighty four years old,
the home and the family and the people around your neighbors,
maybe your church, maybe different organizations or things that you

(23:35):
did on a social level had great impact and influence
on who you become as a person. Okay. In today's
where all our young people are sitting in front of
TV and actually seeing news and things that no longer
are controlled by parents or a household, and we are
looking again, like I said, and I'm kind of preparing

(23:57):
our audience for we're coming forward. And there's been a
suggestion that we look into some books and share some
things on artificial intelligence. And so when we're looking at
heart maths particular techniques and what they're giving us, if
we can come out of the head, if we can

(24:17):
just come out of the head and look more to
the heart. And I bring this up especially because Evelyn,
knowing that your heritage is Mayan and that you're of
the Mayan people, and in most of whatever the culture,
I would say, the artifacts and the drawings and the
teachings of the Mayan show quite often how we've seen

(24:40):
the head actually being away from the body, and so
many people would believe that what the Mayans believed in
was beheading people or killing people by actually capacating them.
So it's not true. It's separating the head from the body.
The body being of the heart, and so when we

(25:01):
start using the intelligence of the heart, we actually have
the same We're still going to have our emotions, which
is something that we'll be visiting with the AI research. Okay,
We'll still have our emotions, which makes us human, okay,
And the whole experience as a human is all about

(25:22):
those feelings. Actually seeing the clarity and reaction of our
feelings on a spontaneous level, and now looking into what
we're realizing is that the real decisions and that the
actual contemplation part of the thinking is taking place in

(25:43):
a different part of our body. And when we begin
to look at that and we realize that heart and
breath is life, Okay, the heart is actually the very
coorinessence of everything that we see as universe. But then
the breathing and them going through this a lot right now,

(26:05):
because I'm working with a lot of doctors and people
who are looking at the fact that they're encouraging families
to pull the plug because they'll say the patient is
brain dead or the patient's not doing this. And then
my statement to them, and of course they get very angry,
is are they breathing? Are they breathing on their own

(26:27):
And if they say yes, I say, then they are
alive and they are still in the process of whatever
that means. If they're breathing on your machine and when
you unplug it they stop, they're already gone. And so
basically the heart and the breath being some of the
very deep teachings of what the ancients have actually left

(26:51):
for us. I feel heart math is playing on that.
And I guess when I'm asking you all your questions
and trying to get you to share some of the
more or in depth reactions you've had to reading this book,
it's that we have to evolve to that very quickly.
Here we're a little bit behind an evolution, we meaning

(27:11):
human beings, because we've gone through the corruption and the
suppression of that corruption for a very long time. And
we're coming to see that, moving past that and making
some quantum leaps, for sure, But at the same time,
we haven't arrived yet to where we can accept that
we think from a different place. Okay, all right, we're

(27:35):
gonna move forward on that and we can go over
to Gabby and Gabby, what would you like to add
everything we've said.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
Yes, it's just the most wonderful book because it gave
me a different level of managing my own emotions and
my own being that I can have all day, every day,
from morning to night. It doesn't take much time to
go into your heart to do like, for example, to
cut through. You know, when things are happening, you go
into your heart, you breathe into the area, you bring

(28:06):
in a regenerative feeling like appreciation or love, and you
step outside of yourself. The more you do it, the
quicker you step outside of yourself and you kind of
look in and get a different perspective. And you know,
you can do that in the bathroom, you can do
that while you're eating, like while you're driving, Like you

(28:28):
don't need to take time outside to speak of your
day to actually practice that.

Speaker 10 (28:33):
And what I've found is, as it says in the book,
that's one of the things that stood out to me,
is like it takes the significance out of events.

Speaker 9 (28:43):
Like the stress we create is what we create. It's
not the situation, even if it's world situations or home situations,
relationship issues. The stress we create that affects our bodies
well being is what we create, So why not take
the significance out of it. And I had some professionally,

(29:04):
I had some great breakthrough. I'm self employed, and sometimes
I get a little bit stressed, you know, about seeing
clients and whether I'm good enough or whatever might come up.
I do my heart breathing my cut through and what
came the other day, you know, said do the best
you can, and that just relaxed me, like I can
do that, you know, rather than worrying I.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I can't do that.

Speaker 9 (29:28):
And the relief I feel it now, my whole body went,
you know, just my shoulders dropped. It was an instant change.
And at home, you know, I have the same Like
I live on my own, so all the task with
a big guarden, a big house and everything fall to me.
And sometimes it gets overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
It just does.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
So I was sitting there the other night and and
let myself a bath in in you know, a measure
of self can I forgot about the bath because I
was reading something and I got lost and I flooded
the bathroom, the hallway carpet, and it was just all
everywhere wet, like a lot of water we're talking about,
and my emotions came up. I'm like, because I was

(30:09):
already doing a lot, I was getting a bit overwhelmed.
I thought, do your heart breath. I just turned the
water off, quietly, walked out, sat down to it, did
my heart breath, and then I started laughing. And I
walked into the bathroom and I thought, this is nice
to have warm water at your feet, and it's actually
really lovely sensory. Experienced the walk on a squashy carpet
and I just giggled and then I cleaned up and

(30:31):
it was no effort.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
You know.

Speaker 9 (30:32):
So what it brings also is with that example, is
it brings your creative solutions. Then you have energy. Again,
it doesn't drain your energy by beating yourself up or
anything like that. It brings creative energy. And said, okay,
I'm just getting some towels out and wiping it up
and then I'm going to have my back. So you know,
it's really it is instantly calming to use those practices.

(30:55):
The more you do it, it's just instant. Like they say,
the chemistry change when you bring in a appreciation or
gratitude instead of the angle of frustration or anxiety you feel.
It's just absolutely instant, and the piece is internally, but
you can feel every cell of your body being affected,
and it's just so profound. And I've also noticed that

(31:20):
that other people have noticed that I'm even calm. I
used to be a relative calm person anyway, but people
have actually commented on it and saying, my goodness, you're
the most leveled person I've ever known, you know. So
I actually have personal proof that it affects my environment.
And I also know that my electromagnetic field goes wide, wide,

(31:41):
wide white. So whatever I do changes the world, you know,
and that is so powerful and I take that responsibility
seriously as well.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Okay, thank you very very much. And now sharing all
of this over the past week and dealing in working
with a lot of international exchange of people and stuff,
I was introduced and given the beautiful honor of actually
talking to a woman from Japan that is, at this

(32:14):
point in time, they're thinking she's one hundred and twenty
seven years old, and just asking her reflection sharp, very sharp,
very mentally sharp, very you know, in the moment obviously
physically shows that she's aged, but very much like I said,

(32:34):
on a mental level, very alert, very in time, and
asking her to reflect back and her her life and things,
and one of the things that she immediately brought up
was people need to go to their heart. And I
just kind of smiled at that, realizing what we're doing
with our show and what we're talking about, and how

(32:57):
she about fifty minutes, she covered what I would consider
a world's history in her one hundred and twenty seven
years and where it was and where it is today,
and how right on she is, and yet she makes
no time for television. She travels extensively, and she calls

(33:21):
herself an endweller, which means she doesn't just travel, she
moves to different locations, and she lives in different parts
of the world, meets people, gets her information from what
I would consider live broadcast means person to person. So
she's very much aware of what's going on politically in

(33:44):
our world, and like I said, she's very much up
to date. But it was so fascinating listening to her
described things that I could relate to, because I realized
in my own experience that I've always thought through my heart,
that I was never lost in the head, that I
always knew my total existence of thought, and where I

(34:07):
begin from is in the heart. And so one of
the things that she had brought forward was how you
know for me because I'm an October child, okay, and
October in the fall being a very powerful time of
the year for me in the season, And how she
had related to the fact of the time zones, and

(34:28):
how on the Earth, the one thing, the common denominator
that she spoke of is the Earth itself. How she
has moved across the surface of it into all of
these different worlds, yet it is of the same planet.
And how each time she's moved into an environment and

(34:49):
adapted and watched, observed and taken herself as a part
of it. Is that how she's realized that how very
what she's dies is complex, that we're a very complex being,
and yet we simplify ourselves to one common denominator, and

(35:09):
we've become hardened and jaded. And she used that word jaded,
which is what I feel I use quite a bit
in my particular way of speaking and things to hardwired thinking.
And then she for a moment kind of drifted off
into a beautiful place and she said to me, right now,

(35:33):
we could look amongst the trees and the plant people
which have been in are a major part of this
planet itself, and they're all connected. Doesn't matter that there's
great water between the particular parts of her that are soil.
They're all connected to her in the heart, and that

(35:55):
they all think and know. The trees all know each other,
and the winds communicate with each other. And then she
said in that as we sit here looking at the
goldenness of the fall, where we look here and see
the crimson of the change and the beautiful gift of

(36:15):
the sun, and the yellow of the trees and the plants,
she said, in another place, life is pushing its way
up through the soil, and there are the flowers of spring,
and there is the ripple of laughter in the thawing
of the snow, and all of that is happening within

(36:37):
the earth. Can we not understand that it's happening within us,
that we this body is hers. And she began to
talk my language, She began to talk to me, and
it was just like this extraordinary experience with her, which
actually brought me to what I wanted to see us
to do today with our closing of this book, and

(37:00):
how she said, it's only in the heart that we
can come to meet the planet as ourself. It's only
in the heart when we allow ourselves to be her
and her functioning in the massiveness of a universe, and
that through her we access all of that. So we

(37:22):
move quickly from the macro to the micro, and yet
the in between is what we lose. And when she
got through talk and I just sat there, I would
imagine that probably there had to be three four minutes
before anything could be said, because it was just that
I was still absorbed in her helping take me into

(37:44):
that place of the heart. See, that's where we need
our leadership. That's where our world has to evolve. That
the people we elect to represent us have to come
to us with the heart, because see, that's where we're
all together. In the heart, we understand and our compassion.

(38:07):
There is no room for corruption, there is no place
for deception, only transparency and in the understanding of what
we are and what we're connected to is this beloved
did and her name being tomorrow. And I told her,
when you say tomorrow to me, I almost feel like

(38:28):
it's the partial word of tomorrow, that you're where we
will be tomorrow, where you can think, where you can
help us, see, where you can remember, where your one
hundred and twenty seven years have brought you you are tomorrow.
And I believe that with my whole heart, that we
can get ourselves to relating to the heart, not the head,

(38:54):
not the thoughts, not the anger, not the opinions, not
the judgments. When we look to our scriptures, and they're
so adamant all scripture, regardless of the religion, says do
not judge. So if we stop judgment and we only
expect and actually feed the very best of what can happen,

(39:21):
that's where we're going. And I feel that in the
conclusion of our book, the last two chapters of which
I very much regret I wasn't able to get to
the show again with an urgent crisis of just insanity
and politics, that that's where we're going. That's where heart
math says, it's directing and it's helping us. But I

(39:43):
feel each one of us, my co hosts, everything that
we do together, every one of you that will listen
and take time with this time in the show, we're
all headed in the same direction. We want truth in truth,
we we want transparency, in transparency, we want acceptance. In acceptance,

(40:06):
we want love. And if we just apply a few
things just knew like what we have had our my
co hosts have shared these little practices and techniques where
you can freeze a moment and take time to evaluate
it before you conclude it, to take a moment to

(40:29):
care for yourself, to give yourself credit even when you
think you have failed. One of the things that she
shared with me is her early life as a child,
and I was so pleased and happy, and we giggled
quite a bit and shared some stories because see, she

(40:51):
was raised with people who didn't punish for failure, nor
shame nor held failure as a wrong. That it was
through things that we didn't succeed with, because she didn't
even use the word failure to begin with. She would say,
the things we didn't succeed with became the things that

(41:13):
helped us learn and go further, so there was never
anything wrong with it, okay. And I remember that that
we were rewarded if we came back, if we were
sent out to pick berries, and if we were drying
the fruits and things for winter, and some of us
come back and we weren't quite successful. At wherever it

(41:35):
was that we were actually harvesting, we didn't get very much.
We would feel badly about that, knowing all the responsibilities
we had for what was going to be put on
the table and so, but we were never made to
feel that way. Immediately it was celebrated that these will
be the sweetest of the berries, okay, and that here

(41:58):
we will take this because this be just enough to
make the difference, And that anything that we would have
seen as failure or went wrong or wasn't good enough
became the very item to help us search further, go deeper,
find more to consider, and that as we learned from it,

(42:22):
we become more powerful. We were never shamed to made
feel weak. And when she shared her stories, I could
actually see the parallel in those few moments of how
I could see as both as little girls learning in
a very happy way and realizing that no matter what

(42:43):
we did, it was so important that it made a difference.
That even if we couldn't give everything that we expected
or that we had thought, or that we had even
planned for, that what we did bring back was even
more important. That comes from the heart, not the head,

(43:04):
that that openness of caring and wanting things to be
better is the heart, not the head. The head is
full of everything that allows us to stress. And we're
learning through especially the medical professionalists that I'm working with,
that there are so many different things we can put
in the body that helps the heart emphasize what we

(43:26):
need to have stress free living. So again it's to
take out the way we're looking at how we're actually
casting from what we believe are our opinions. So Heartmuth
to me is definitely a key to the future. And
like I said, I'm hoping that each one of our

(43:47):
readers and our listeners actually pick up these books and
make it something that you continue to refer to quite often.
So I'd like to see whatever else that any of
you would like to add to what we have to
share today in closing and moving on from this book
to our next one. And Marianne, by the way, I

(44:08):
do want to say, you're the only one of the
co hosts it's actually sent me anything on a suggestion
of a book, So I'm thinking maybe if all of
you are agreed, we'll actually look at taking up some
books on artificial intelligence and discussing what's going on with
that and just how does that fit in this heart situation? Okay,

(44:31):
so anybody want to add something. Okay, this is very unusual,
dear audience, because these five ladies don't do anything but talk,
so we have to give them a few minutes to
take a breath. And I'm sure somebody's going to have
something to say. All right, ladies, come on, give me
your best.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
This is La in Sydney, Australia. And I wanted to
also add for those of you who have the scientific mind,
the book gives you that as well, and I found
that very helpful, so it might you know, it may
sound simple that you're taking a breath or you're breathing
consciously through your heart, and then the book will tell
you what's happening physiologically, what's happening. It tells you how

(45:14):
it synchronizes particular brain waves with your heart. So yes,
it's good to be able to use it whenever you
feel stressed, overwhelmed or anxious. And it's also before you
do things, because when you know that by breathing a
certain way before you give a speech, or breathing a
certain way before you enter a meeting and set the

(45:37):
intentions and go to your heart and cultivate feelings of
appreciation or love or care that it physiologically, biochemically, and
the field around you changes and that's scientifically shown.

Speaker 9 (45:54):
In the book.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Okay, very good, thank you. Anyone else.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
I've found this is Mariam from Melbourne, Astraia. I found
it's really helpful in just dealing with just about every
I can't find a situation this is not helpful, and
to be honest, because it's a way of dropping into
the wisdom of the heart. But I have found that
I need to really take the time. So I need
to take the time to focus. And I was heartened

(46:25):
in the book because they share that the more you
do it, the more natural it becomes to drop into
the heart and get the response of the heart. But
I really love the wisdom that the heart can offer,
and you know, it's really helped me. See, I can't
trust my first response. My first response is at all negative.

(46:47):
I can't trust that. I can't go into the story
of it and justify it. All I need to do
is apply these principles of heart math and take the
time to drop into the heart. So there are some
situations I've had to actually I spend quite a bit
of time really conjuring up the positive feelings in order
for them to help me transmute the negative or to

(47:09):
have to, I guess hear the wisdom of the heart.
And for me, the wisdom has come through very short
and sweet, like it doesn't meance words, it doesn't need
a lot of words, but the words have been powerful.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
You do, okay, very very good? All right, anyone else?

Speaker 11 (47:30):
And this is Trina in Denver. I've really found, you know, scripture,
all the scriptures say go within. They all say you
know you'll you'll find the Kingdom of heaven within, which
is guiding us to meditate, which is guiding us to
spend time with ourselves. And I'm finding that doing a

(47:51):
heart walk in before you move into meditation, really breathing
through the heart and looking at the love that you
have for others, for the mother, for different situations and things,
brings you into a really amazing space to begin a meditation.

(48:12):
So I've added that to my meditations, and I'm just
finding when I've been in groups it's made a huge
difference too, So that was something I wanted to add.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Okay, all right, very good, Okay. So I think we
pretty much can say at this point that we've covered
everything we know we can do with that, and that
like I said, I do wish that with all of
our listeners and what we've shared over these weeks. And
I am so grateful to you, my co hosts, for
actually being able to carry the show and the many

(48:47):
times that everything I've involved myself and just seems to
suck up time and life, and you're right there and
holding the space for our listeners, and I am extremely
grateful and in heart, I'm hoping you all stay tuned,
like I said to their website, into the constant development
of what's real about us and knowing, yes, it we're

(49:11):
more than the body. When we say we're not the body,
well we can't really say that inas much as we
experience the body as ourselves, okay, And that it is
the heart that it's all about, so that we could
learn about ourselves in a better way and seeing the
beauty of what we are. When I've gone over my

(49:33):
life and a lot of things I shared with this
elder and her experience of how long she had lived,
she had come in the last twenty years of her
life to actually saying she could see energy and she
could see things in people she had never seen before,
and that she had that experience, she had come very

(49:53):
close to dying, and once she'd gotten well, I guess
she suffered a tremendous situation for about two or three
months and decided that she wasn't ready and she still
had too much curiosity to leave. And she said after
that she began to see things that she hadn't seen before,
and she would talk about things she saw around people

(50:16):
and how she wished that people could really see themselves.
And I would have to agree with that, because then
if you ever really truly saw yourself, you would know
how beautiful and godly you really are. That when we
say that we are definitely children of God or in

(50:38):
the image of God, you'd have to understand how beautiful
that has to be. And like the colors of the
Fall and all the things she shared with me in
her awareness of us, as with the Mother, is you,
and in that when you see that part of yourself,
not the broken, not the tainted, not the tarnished, not

(50:59):
the judgment, the innocence and the truth of what you are,
that is such a magnificent beauty. And it shows the
difference that you are, that each of us as a
snowflake cannot be matched or even role modeled as another.

(51:21):
And in that that you own that personal direct aspect
of within the very existence of what we call God.
So I ask you to play with that. We're on
with that for a while, and allow yourself to be
as beautiful as that is. And that when you can
see yourself as the sun, when you can see yourself

(51:43):
as the wind, when you know yourself as the water
on the earth, you will know that the heart is everything. Meanwhile,
enjoy everything you can in life and be safe, be happy,
and be well. And we will catch you next week
as we emerge into looking into some of the other

(52:03):
sciences and most likely that will be artificial intelligence. And
to my co host, thank you very much for your
patience and this evening today has been wonderful. Everyone, have
a wonderful week, oh SiO.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Thank you for listening to Quantum Lead book Club. For
more information where you can contact us, go to lay
Radio Network dot com, forward slash Quantum hyphen Leak. Have
a great week.
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