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September 7, 2025 • 42 mins
CBS Radio Mystery Theater - A Challenge for the Dead

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Come in.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm e. G.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Marshall.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
We are told, and so many of us believe that
the child is the father of the man. Does this
mean that the guy has already been cast, even before
the game has really begun? And since life itself is
a game and therefore subject to rules, what makes a
child break them or follow them in the first place? Well,

(00:35):
if you will allow me to paraphrase the great Sam Johnson,
I have found you a question. I am not obliged
to supply you with an answer, only an insight. You
love me, Claire, I don't you always love me?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Clease?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I want, like a hump, go out ahead, but I
won't ask you again. I don't want to cheat quick affair.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Please, I'm already married.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
We agreed that was a mistake, but I am married.
You have to pay for it the rest of your life.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
I I don't believe in divorce.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's the only way.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
I was brought up not to believe. It's against my convictions.
Can't we find another way?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah? We can? I've about murder.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Our mystery drama A Challenge for the Dead, was written
especially for the mystery Theater by Sam Dan and stars
Howard da Silva. It is sponsored in part by sin Off,
the Sinus Medicines and Enhoyzer Busch Incorporated.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Brewers of Butweiser.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
I'll be back shortly with that one. Breakfast is always
a very special meal for Claire Gordon, at least it
has been during the twenty years she's been married. Claire

(02:12):
and Johnny don't talk about it, but there is one
basic fact that is always present. It can be their
last breakfast together. Johnny is a coup and like a
lightning bolt in a clear blue sky, couple can explode
at any time, anywhere without the slightest warning. And so

(02:35):
Claire and Johnny deal with it by seemingly not dealing
with it at all.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
That's a pretty big breakfast.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
You'll get to work on it while it's hot.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's a lose wit.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
You'll gain weight on what do you hear go eating
on those lunches at.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Hot or the paper? The paper, the newspaper, the publication,
the gazette, the press.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Oh oh, the paper.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's smart.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
I don't think we got it this morning. We didn't, really, Johnny,
it didn't come.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Look you're dealing with a detective. Here, Look at your finger.
You get that black stuff that newsprint, Domond And if
I check out the garbage, can one life find?

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Okay, Copper your gott no, And.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I just supposed to separate the garbage papers.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Can't bottle so forth.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Not only a bad liar, you're terribly colleges.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
I didn't want to ruin your text.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
There must have been a big headline about Mike Perry.
Did the grand jury dismiss the indictment?

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Insufficient evidence?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
In sufficient evidence? Bribe witnesses, that's the right name for it.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
But this is what I didn't want you to get into.
The first thing in the morning.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
What the grand jury is said to him and EFFECTU
go ahead, you gott our blessing, turn the whole city
into a sewer.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
That is not what they said.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Mike Perry is a cancer that leads away at the
guts to the city. You name it. He runs it, drugs, gambling, girls,
loan shop.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Legally he doesn't because legally it can't be proved legally.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Don't you or anybody else give me the law?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
What else is there, Johnny? If you don't believe in
the law, what are you doing on the police force?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Show me one other couple on the corse who fights
for a law harder than I do.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
That's a pity. I will be here a couple hundred
years from now, because by that time, I'm sure they'll
have made you a say.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Legally he didn't kill Father Jim either. I suppose he
probably did. Oh, now it's become probably.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Johnny, that was twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Because the passage of time all to the facts. Every
time I have a spare hour, a free day, I
try to go over it, Johnny. This time, when all
the heat was on Mike Perry, what do you think
I was doing. I let the other guys spin their wheels.
I try to get him for Father Jim's murder, because
that's the only one he ever did with his own hands.
You want more coffee, Always more coffee. Look, I realize

(04:46):
you haven't had much fun all these years.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Well that makes us even I don't think you've had
much fun either. If only you were just relax a.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Little more, I promise from now on, I will what
you to do that while I'm out there fighting that
lonely battle against crime.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
That's what I mean is if you're the only copper
look force and sincerely concerned.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, sometimes it feels that way. Let's drop it. Well,
what are you gonna do this?

Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm afraid to tell you.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Take a chance.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
I'm having lunch with Laura Billingham.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Lovely Laura, techful, Tommy's beautiful wife. Johnny, I think I'll resign.
What kind of police forces are they gonna have a
Tommy Billingham as a chief inspector?

Speaker 5 (05:31):
You could have been chief inspector. You both joined the
department the same day.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That's right. I started how to be a good cup.
He studied how to be a politician?

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Is that a crime?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to Breakfast for the Gordons.
If you miss yesterday's episode, it doesn't mean a thing.
The same dialogue will be repeated tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow.
And now I'm gonna be late.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
And Johnny gets Claire an affectionate tech on the cheek,
and he leaves to single handedly to send out fair
City against crime corruption. It's indifferent than what else.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Johnny slot flock.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
That's a good way go get him, Sir.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Locke, enjoy lune, Johnny new girl's a pretty good wairess. Pop.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I try to train him.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'll be sure you're trained to give me the check
the next time might come in.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Look, Jenny, I had the veal, salad, pie and coffee.
That's two hours of the nineties. Johnny, I wish you'd
let me do something for you. I'd like to show
my appreciations. You mean you'd like to ease your guilty conscience.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Oh, Johnny, I did my time.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
I paid my dues.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
You still owe society?

Speaker 5 (06:45):
What whyo society?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Information?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Hmm?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's your duty to tell us everything you know about
Mike Perry, and you know plenty.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Hi, Janny, why you.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Know he's a scum of the years it was that
helped me out. Give a la I can't, Why can't should?
I just can't see myself as a squaler? Uh? What
is this code of the on the world? Nonsense?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's my colt, Johnny.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
To me, the lowest handal.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
In the world is a spoiler?

Speaker 2 (07:15):
More important for you to live up to some imaginary
code than of this society to get rid of a
a menace like Mike Perry's. Yeah, yeah, it's more important,
like god'll be able to live with myself.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I can't squeal.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's not right, Pop, I'm not saying it's white what
do you just saying it's my way? Okay, Bob, Johnny,
Why why you drive yourself so hard?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Like pop? Wait?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Looks through the window. The girl standing on the corner
with a tall guy. H Why does she look so familiar?

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Remember one of them hood jewel Let City in the Wood.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Didn't things shake down?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Which one?

Speaker 1 (07:51):
The old timer Bully Decker?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh? Yeah, he goes he goes back a long way
with Mike Perry. Well, that girl is old Dolly's young wife.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Name's Mollie.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
She appears very friendly with a tall girl.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's how good, Jenny.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Huh, I'll see her our pup. Hey, Johnny, I uh,
I'm sorry. I can't give you that kind of help
you need. Well, maybe maybe you did give me just
a little bit. Oh do you want to see me inspector?

Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, Jenny.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Uh, how you're coming on the Mike Perry thing?

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Well, I'm sure a man ta Jenny.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Oh something we're supposed to lay off?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Wait a minute, Jenn.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Is that the latest from upstairs is.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
There are two endearing things about you, Johnny. Hey, you
like the poors people and the you don't know when
to stop and just understand one thing. Nobody tells me
how to sign my man.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Once say that's for me to talk.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
I know what you think of me.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Why should you care what I think of you?

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Because you're the best detective in the department. Now, I'll
give you the basic fact about Mike Perry. The bottom line,
we are not going to get him.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
We're nothing.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
In the end.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's gonna be the Federals.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
They have the best angles in the state, violations, taxes
and so forth.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Basically their show, all of which is your way of
telling me what We'll always maintain surveillance, of course, but
I don't need you for that. You say the firs
of all the good angles, but I'm working on the
best one of all.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Murder, Johnny, that's twenty years old. You can't use that
badge as a means of exercising.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Your own personal My own personal. What the debtor?

Speaker 6 (09:43):
You and Mike Perry kids from the same neighborhood. You
went one way, he chose another. That wouldn't have mattered.
But you believe he killed the one man everyone loved,
Father Jim, and you.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Don't believe it. You don't believe he was robbing the
church and Father Jim discovered him.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Sometimes I think the reason you became and the cop
was because Mike became a crook law order?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Old you kidding? Or you ever really wanted?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
All you still want is to bag Mike Perry.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Sir, If you didn't have to become a cop, Tommy, well,
you could have been a psychiatrist.

Speaker 6 (10:15):
You let Mike Perry in your life. He turned you
into a crusader, a zealous.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
But what's wrong with crusaders and zeala?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
They're hard to live with because they become fanatics and.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
They get passed over at promotion time. Look, but I
know we have to pull in our harns on this
Perry thing. But I may have a lead.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Okay, stay within a couple of.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Days, I used to see you.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Why you want?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I brought you some cigarette, Billy? Well, how they treat you?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Why are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I just second billy. After all, I was a coup
of colleger. I feel responsible for your welfare. You know
what I mean, Huck.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I didn't kN off my mouth back then, and I
ain't gonna help.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
It up now. You got me all wrong, Tully. I
just wanted to make sure they're treating you.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Okay, Oh Finch Street, we got maide service and part.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
I can't play golf today because of the range, but
this weekend we got a cork.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
God, I gotta get back to that cold, cruel world
out there. Oh, I forgot to tell you your wife
looks great. Yeah, yeah, I thought you might want to know.
I understand she hasn't been around the visit lately.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
You know it's your time. You won't gonna lie out
of me.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I guess the reason is she must be busy. I
keep running into her. She's always with that tall guy, Jerry. Yeah, Jerry,
that's his name. You're lying Jerry. He's young, and he's
good looking, and he's there.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
See, she wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
That's the way it goes, really, you know what the
French day, the one who's absent is the one who's wrong.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Hey, well wait a minute. Come back here.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
Where we're going, Laura, downtown, all the way downtown, just
for lunch time.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
We're breaking bread at the Ambassador.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
The Ambassador, Laura, Laura, what in.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
The first place I am not dressed for.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Oh there, honey, you could punch three holes in a
burl a bag, one for your head and two up
your arms and still make the ten best dressed women's
list still make I never made it well because your
life's been kept hidden under a bushelt. Let's not start
that today. In the second place, I can't afford ambassador price.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Ah, but you don't have to pay for it. I'm
not gonna let you, nor am I. Honey, we are
guess for here and now of the one hundred committee.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
You know that high class group made up of all
the cities, social and political and other large reel leaders.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
And this is the biggest punch in the year.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Don't you read the papers? The flawing chivalry of our
fair city will be in a tense How do we
laid him? Indication?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
How well?

Speaker 5 (13:02):
The occasion to celebrate the arrival of the Rembrandt collection
from the Rights Museum in Holland. Really, but you still
haven't a quickly know how I love art.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
So I said to Tommy, tell me pull some wires
and get me in there. One word to Tommy in
the fireworks. So here we are.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Oh, that's wonderful, But I don't think I better come
by that. I'll have to see as far as Johnny's
concerned that Tommy's getting those tickets of beer.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
If you took a bride.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
That's how Johnny looks at him. Are Oh, look, I
I think it's to me fair to tell you something else.
An old friend of the oars will be there, an
old old friend who Mike Kerry Mike, what would he
be doing there? But he's a patron of the art.

(13:56):
He put at the bill for the exhibit.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
No, I can't go. Good, by God, the mayor will
be there, so will be Lieutenant Good.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
I don't think you know how it is to not
how where Mike Harry has come.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Aren't you curious to see Mike as all?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
He is.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Not even a little bit curious. Okay, let's forget it. Good,
here's a Hamburger joint.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
We'll just pull in.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
You know, in the twenty years got got married to Johnny,
I never really went anywhere or met anyone that or
did anything.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Why should I.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Make an event like that? And if Johnny have checked?

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Well, who says Johnny has to know?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Who says Johnny has to know? Are we starting to
practice to deceive?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well?

Speaker 3 (14:56):
If we are, you know what a tangled web we're
about to Let's see standard equipment for a web? Is
there one spider and one fly who catches whom will
be revealed when I return.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Shortly with that too.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Some people see the moral issues of the day as
all black or all white. Others perceive them in varying
shades of gray. Does this mean that evil, like beauty,
is determined by the eye of the beholder?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Who knows? Are there? Should there be absolute standards? If so,
who sets them? And who shall interpret them?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Difficult and perplexing questions which each of us is called
upon to provide an answer for every day we live.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Oh what happens now?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Well now at lunch is just an uber.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
We were all drifted into the Presidential Gallery and uh
be treated to a premier showing of the Rember.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Have you seen?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
You know who?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Uh? No, I guess he didn't show up?

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Which makes you feel what happy?

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Or disappointed?

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Really pride?

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Because I wouldn't have the faintest idea of what to
stay doing. We would have absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
To talk about. Hello Claire, Hello, I it's it's Mike.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Mike Perry.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Embarrassed Claire, I.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Don't know where I am? I? Oh, I'm sorry?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Uh, Laura, Billy hadn't Mike Perry?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
How do you do? Oh?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Umust be chief inspector Billy. I'm's wife, the inspected, a
close personal.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Friend of bar Oh, no, not really.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I was introduced to him once to the civic function.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Would you excuse me, he said, someone's standing near the door.
Why it can't be muting hello to but.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Laura, I don't take a minute.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
What are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
All these years I often wondered what we would say
to each other if ever we meet again.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Do you haven't answered my click?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Many of these people are my friends.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
Friends, But you're what racketeer?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Actually the boss of the racket the boss of the
rackets up. It sounds like a title for a TV movie,
but it's true now it is. That claim was made
to a grand jury here the grand jury answered, no,
not proved.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Maybe not proved, but technically true.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Would you subject every accused person that such double jeopardy?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Tell me twenty years ago? Why did you choose John
Gordon instead of me?

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Mike, Well, you excuse me?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Why you're dying to talk with me?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
And you know it?

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Really?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Oh, come on, Claire, You and me.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
And Johnny Gordon, three kids in the same parish, three
kids who grew up together, the three Musketeers. But once
we got to be seventeen eighteen. We knew eventually they
could only be two of us. You know, the smart
money in the neighborhood was betting on me.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like you like to shock people, let me tell you
a curse.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
Did you murder fight at Jim?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Why did you ask?

Speaker 5 (18:50):
The answer is either yes or know it? It w
Why do you ask?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
But why do you ask?

Speaker 5 (18:54):
It's important because everybody says you did.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
That's uh good old every everybody said sidor.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You know he started that room, dutchess Johnny.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Why would Johnny start to your room?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
You believed it and that's all he wanted.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
The story is you were trying to rob the rectory
when father Jim surprised you, he slucked him.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yes, that's the story. But Goldieos is also a story,
so it's in.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
A lot of delirious Take the chalice. You don't have
to kill for it, he keeps repeating and repeating, before.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
He doped, Does that make me guilty?

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Some one stole the gold cup, a beautiful gold cup
we kids gave him for a present.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Why me?

Speaker 5 (19:32):
It was the only value before he owned in all
the world, and you and I and Johnny are the
only ones who knew where he kept.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Then you and I and Johnny should equally share the suspicion.
You know, I just waived that the Lieutenant governor he
wants to see me.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Well, why don't you go to it?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh no, that's not the way it works. I don't
go to him. He comes to me. He needs my,
my money, my influence a good thing.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
He doesn't need modesty. That's one commodity you could never supply.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
A man works so he can brag to a woman.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Why should all these important people want to curry favor
with a racketeer.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Racketeer? You teach history in high school.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
You know what it was like in this country in
the nineteenth century, and how were most of those fortunes made.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
How do you know so much about history?

Speaker 1 (20:31):
I spent four years in jail.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
Unjustly, I supposed.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh oh, I was guilty, But that was my university.
I read and studied day and night.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
A pity.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
You didn't learn anything, Oh.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
But I learned everything, everything that counts how to be successful.
Kids have graduated with honors from Ivy League colleges, not
nearly as well prepared for life, your type of life.
This is how we talk to each other in the
old age. See how naturally we just fall back into it.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
How's your wife? I never married the only girl I
ever loved turned me down. But you're just a kid.
Now she's mature. Maybe we can rectify that mistake. Don't
bet on it, but I am, and I only bet

(21:28):
I'm sure things.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Hello Skelley, Well it's this.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Isn't this a pleasure to take the gooden.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Or bug of phtugraphy because it's coming selly.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
I didn't know if such thing as a nightclub crowd anymore.
He's creeps in hout to send money?

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Could you use the customer?

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Point me at him? It's me Why you think it's
a good looking You gotta have pictures taken.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Off of the customer of the subject. You see the
couple sitting at the table along before a wolf.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Oh you mean the twothing that's doing that kind of
quiet but serious naked you got there?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
You see what I mean? You want to do that?
Stay home, don't come to a nightclub, cal.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
You take a few pictures of those good people? Uh
on the QTE natural naturally? Why, Well, let's say I'm
writing a book and I want you to illustrate it
for me any.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Yeah, particular kind of poses.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Detective.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, that's whins there and now looks pretty good to me.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
How many times I gotta tell you I don't know nothing,
but I know something. You're trying to tell me stories
about million. Don't go, she's crazy about me.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
You're taking a rap from Mike Perry. But it's okay
with you. That's your job to take the rat. You
always knew that. However, in return for which he's got
an obligation to you, money gets paid regularly to a
certain bank account.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
What can I prove? Okay?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
As you want to send years of your life for money, go,
But that's only half. He's also responsible for your family,
My family, your wife, little Lily. He's supposed to make
sure she's taken care of.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Aw let's some coppack. I've had enough for you be
Does the law say you got a right to come
into mind?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
He's a lot to make sure she isn't well? How
can I put this lead into temptation?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Shut up?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's the agreement in return for which you keep your
mouth closed. Where he book that agreement, You're liar. He's
written you all get out of here. They've all written
you a, Yeah, you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Lily would never do anything.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
One picture is worth a thousand words. Look he get
out of here afraid take a look, and then tell
me she's nuts about you. Well, Billy, now, what are
you saying?

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Maybe along may a?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I understand, I'll call the guard I no, no, don't go.
I'm sorry, Billy, but I have to do my job
anyway I can.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Hey, hey, ain't her faults?

Speaker 3 (24:13):
See she shot the kid, but Mike said done something
explained to her.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
He he let me down.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Are all bets off? Now?

Speaker 1 (24:25):
I owe him not?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
You know enough to put Mike Perry right here in jail.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
And I know I've to put him right in the
electric chair.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
He's still burying guys today.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
They do and they don't. It all depends. But it's
got to be murdered.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
How long this murder keep fresh?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Forever?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Even twenty years?

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Who's murdered?

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He killed a priest, a.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Priest father, Jim Morgan? What have you got? Why you
you got my word that your sentence will be cut.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I made deals while you was in diapids. I will
do it that way.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
My mouthpiece has to meet with a da and all
the eyes get dotted and all the peace get crossed.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
How do I know you've got anything?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Only three guys know about something that could sit Mike
Perry down in a chair, Mike May and Pop Morris,
you know the guy who went straight runs the rest hurt?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Well, what is it?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I like your couple, but first my mouthpiece has to
tell me we got a deal.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Johnny, Yeah, you're late.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
That's been a long day. And if you well, no,
matter of fact, everything's great.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
And why do you look that serious?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Did you ever wait and wait oh years and years
for something that happened and then all of a sudden
the end is in sight. The end is what the
end of Mike Perry?

Speaker 5 (26:10):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
I think we're gonna find the evidence that ties into
the murder of father Jim.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
What do you mean find the evidence?

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Just well, I said, honey, find the evidence after.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
All these years?

Speaker 4 (26:23):
Or if that be sort of convenient?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Uh? I don't think I understand that.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Well, some people might consider that you're so eager to
put Mike Perry away that you conveniently found some twenty
year old evidence.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Listen, if it's a chance to put Mike Perry away,
I'll take any evidence I can get how was your day?

Speaker 5 (26:46):
It was alright?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
How was your lunch with Laura? Billing him? Anything he
say didn't come up.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
What could be exciting about lunch with Laura Billingham?

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Remember the questions we used to put the children, where
did you go today? And the kid would say out
and you'd ask what did you do?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
And he'd answer nothing. We have the same situation here.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
After all, she only had lunch with the man her
husband is trying to arrest for murder. Well, there will
be more lunches, perhaps even a breakfast or two. When
I returned shortly with Act three. The problem is you

(27:43):
can't see into the future. A girl is nineteen or
twenty years old, two young men water. She can only
have one, so she chooses. She chooses the one she
thinks she loves more. But for the rest of her
life a day hardly patches when she isn't confronted by

(28:04):
the nagging little question, did I pick the right one?
Claire chose Johnny Gordon because she was in love with Johnny,
but she was also in love with Mike Perry.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Wanna look at the view? Go on? You can see
in the three states from here, Mike.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Suppose someone sees ah, there is the soul inside. Oh
what did somebody saw me get into your car?

Speaker 2 (28:34):
No one saw you know?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
You know we sounded like a couple of school kids
sneaking off for the weekend.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Mike, I don't know why I even agreed to go
riding with you this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Sure you do it. I must be crazy, you were
You are crazy to pick Johnny over me?

Speaker 5 (28:51):
Why did Johnny hate you so much?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Johnny saw me as the only serious rival as far
as you were concerned.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
You better take me home.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Sure, we're not going to decide this in a day.
Decide what our future? Our future, yes, Claire, we have
a future.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
No, what are you doing here?

Speaker 5 (29:18):
I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
You're bored with things at home? I'm not what a fascinating,
exciting life you lead?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
What do you know? Where do you go? Like?

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Take me home? Do it this way? You wanted both
of us?

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Okay, you've had twenty years with Johnny, Now take twenty
years with me.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I wanna go home.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Johnny's at dead end. Life is change, move but action.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Mike.

Speaker 5 (29:51):
You must answer one question to me, did you kill
father Jim?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
What kind of question?

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Is that a question? It has to be in that
head on an answered, can you swear to me that
you did not murder Father Jim.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I swear to you in God's name, I did not
murder Father Jim.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
And I was about the Centoria, Johnny.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
There's been a murder down at the merchandise Pisa, and
I simply have to take you out to Mike Perry
thing that you can go back to it afterwards.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
The Mike Perry, thick as your code is all over
what you mean? I mean, we've got it, got him
for what other side?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I know you don't care, not about Mike Perry.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
How we got him.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Billy Decker been with Johnny all these years. Billy walked
a slick? What kind of song the story of how
Mike killed Father Jim. You're sure it depends on the deal.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
He can give us some un aside wrap on Mike Perry.
We'll give him the keys to the city.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
The DA has to meet with this lawyer to work
it out.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
To get the evidence on Mike Perry.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
The DA would be willing to walk barefoot in the snow.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now.

Speaker 6 (31:08):
I don't know how you work at Johnny, but he's
done a tremendous job. And I'm calling Spendelly's office. Congratulations,
hell out, inspect their billing hands.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'm to start with the da Eh, we'll break in
on it.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Nothing's more important than that.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Uh, Johnny, you wanna pick up my otphone? You're hey? Nick?
How I she inspect the billiing COM's office and he
wasn't guess what I got for you in a million year? Yeah? Bill,
I'm Dedective Gordon go on and really thought we'd see that.
Why where? Well? He got? You? Sure? Hang like I'd
see yeah, ooh, let me tell you. Well, okay, hang up,

(31:44):
tell me we'll hold it. Nick.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Why did the Johnny hang up?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Hang up?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
There was a ward? So the vicers did what do
you mean, Dad? Somehow somebody got to him. He was
murdered less night.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
But I thought you said you had the evidence.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
I did it disappeared?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
How can evidence disappear? I mean, if it's real, solid evidence,
strong enough to get a condition for homicide.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I'll forget it.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Johnny. You can't say that to me. I've been living
with this for twenty years too. What was the evidence?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I said to forget it?

Speaker 5 (32:23):
Was there any evidence or.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Or what? Or?

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Has this thing become an obsession with.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
You this conton this Spilly Decker was gonna talk.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
You mean a convict was willing to manufacture evidence in
return for its freedom?

Speaker 6 (32:38):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Matter of fact, I'll forget it.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Somehow, to the grape Vine, Mike Perry must have heard
about it and reached in there to shut him up.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Oh well, you can prove that.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I suppose it was the only way. But I'm not licked.
I'll get it.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I I don't know what you're talking that back, yany.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'm talking about you and Billy Decker and Mike Perry
and father Jims. Just before he died, or let's say,
before he was murdered, Billy said that you also knew.
I want what you know, Papa, I'm not as squeally
you know that I want that evidence. I'm sorry, Jane,
I'm sorry too. Because this is war. You may find

(33:22):
that there are violations in this joint.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
You mean to mean you'd close me up.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah, I'd close you up, and I'd be right because
according to the law, no one of questionable background is
permitted to run an eating and drinking place.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Yanny, you know I'm straight.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
You can't have it both ways. You can't be a
respectable member of society and live by the code of
the otherworld. You have to choose. Close me up. Oh,
come on, Pop, we're both of us talking like kids. Sure,
I'm emotional about Mike Perry and you're the same way
about some non existent code exists for me. What I

(33:56):
thought my two guys who've been around. First off, if
we get him for the murder of Father Jim, you're
an accessory. You've had information which you've withheld.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Well, I'll take whatever that that is.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
But I don't think you'll live that long. As a
matter of fact, I'm surprised you're still alive.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
Ah, come on, Johnny, what are you hand in me?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
The only loose end in Mike Perry's career is the
murder of Father Jim. But he always thought he was
in the clear. For years, it hasn't even entered his mind. Okay,
all of a sudden, he gets a tip from some
stoody in the jail, Billy Decker is gonna talk. So
he takes care of Billy. Now he has to think

(34:35):
who else knows about it? If you were in Mike's shoes,
what would you do? Pop? Yeah, listen, Johnny, it's him
or you pop. Everything else is idle chatter. It goes
about twenty years Billy decularly. We the two of us

(34:58):
own the neighborhood action.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
He was a punk here.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
He he thought he was tough.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
He wanted to join up and well we kept telling
him to go pedal. His papers show on this, particularly mine.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Hey times, how'd you get in here? I got something
to you, guy.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
All you can have for us is two words goodbye,
say 'em and beat it?

Speaker 1 (35:21):
And I want it off if I can't. A fact
said what do you got that?

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Hey, I ain't glad, but he go looking cup sal
a dog?

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Hey, hold it?

Speaker 1 (35:33):
What's wotting on it? The father, Jem, with all our love,
cause that was the police to got killed it today.
I didn't even think he was in the house. I
heard somebody coming. I hid behind the door. When he
walked in, I I hit him on my head.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
I didn't know it was the father for this.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
They said the hottest gold cup than town.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
I was like listening to the two things as you
don't do you You don't kill a.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Cop and you don't kill a priest.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (36:06):
But get lose that cup?

Speaker 3 (36:08):
They're crazy, it's for a couple hundred buck.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's worth your life.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Bury it melted down, lose it.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
What happened to the cup?

Speaker 4 (36:18):
He never got rid of it?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
There's your evidence.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
What do you mean he never got rid of it?

Speaker 5 (36:23):
I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
For some years he he just couldn't.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And I saw it again when Billy and May had
to go back to Mike's.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Office to pick up some stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
He's got a little antique mahogany cabinet inside.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
We've seen the.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Cop pipes pop. He squeezed out of a lot of
pipe spots. Let's see him account for the cup.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
I had to see, Mike. Don't ask me why, but
I will why because everything inside me keeps going around
and around. I don't know where I am. I don't
know what to do.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Why is it?

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I don't know that either. It's just it's got a jim.
When I thought you had killed him, I.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Suppose, I suppose it affected.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
The entire course of my life.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
But I didn't kill him.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Who Who's that?

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Must say one of my boys?

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Oh my god, I don't wanna be seen.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Why don't you step into the bedroom. I'm going Johnny
tell him, Mike, Johnny, how long has it been.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I have two pieces of paper here. One is a
warrant for your arrest, my arrest for what murder? They
they let me tell you about your rights?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I know them, Save your brat.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I also have a search warrant.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
What are you looking for, Johnny?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
My books have just come back from the irs clean.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I'm not looking for your books. I told the other
guys to stay outside. I waited twenty years to do this,
and it belongs to me. It's mine alone.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Why didn't you throw the coup away? Get rid of it?

Speaker 1 (38:09):
What coup?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Get away from the cabinet.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I've got a war and I've.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Got that gun.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
You're crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Just don't reach for yourys. Whatever you do, keep your
hands up.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I didn't come here alone. You can't get away with
me the canoe. It's the end of the law in mind.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Look at how we wind up, Johnny.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
When we were eight years old, we swore to be brothers.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
We even took an oath in blood.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Why don't you come along quietly? Mine?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
No, if it has stand for me, it has stands
for both of us. Mirror's a bargain. No matter how
many you commit, you only pay for one.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Noah, don't reach.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
What was the first prayer? Father Jim taught it. Let's
hear it for the last time. Now I lay me
down the sleep.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
What was that, Oha, God, go tell your thing.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I'm home.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I heard it on the music.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Then, you know I would have called you, but I
didn't think it was the kind of thing you should
hear on the phone.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Is he dead?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh? He would cover and stand trial. What happened, I
don't know. I went up there to make the arrest,
and I was careless. For the first time in my life.
He got the drop he was gonna kill me. But
there must have been someone else in the place, because
somebody threw a vase at him. What do you think,

(39:46):
go figure?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Or who was it?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
By the time I finished fighting with him and went
to look, there was no one in the apartment. Whoever
it was just got away.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
Well it's over, No, Johnny, it isn't between you and me.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
It'll never be of her.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I was talking about that, Johnny.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Do you ever say maybe you might have married someone else?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Sometimes when it get to be a pinion the night
about something.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Tell me too. But I never will again. I promise
you I never will again.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Well, all that we've got Mike Perry. I feel as
if I a great weight to be lifted.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
So do I, Johnny, So do I?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Obviously, Claire Gordon is a woman who doesn't think her
husband should know everything. Oh and before you venture to disagree,
consider that despite a few perfectly normal intervals of doubt,
she does.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Enjoy m a happy marriage. Oh, I'll be back shortly.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
I posed a little problem at the beginning of our story.
How is the child molded? What makes him the man?
Two youngsters? Why does one become a roofless killer and
the other a dedicated cup Our modern wise men study, analyze, experiment,

(41:27):
let their answers leave us no wiser. On the other hand,
the ancient wise men dismissed the problem by saying that
all of us are playthings of the whimsical gods. Why
isn't that as good an hander as any? Our cast
included Howard Dusolva, Terry Keyes, Robert Dryden, Leon Johnny, and

(41:48):
Briana Rayburn. The entire production was under the direction of
Hyman Brown and now Marshall inviting you to return to
our mystery theater for an another adventure in the macabre.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Until next time, Pleasant dreams,
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