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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Come in welcome. I'm e. G. Marshall. The administration of
justice requires absolutely that certain men render judgment on other men.
It seems to me that these judges can become so
burdened by this responsibility that their lives become very nearly insupportable.
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Provided there are men of conscience. And the man whose
story we now bring you is indeed a man of conscience,
and his life at this time well nigh insupportable. Our
mystery drama The Man Must Die was written especially for
the Mystery Theater by Elspeth Eric and stars William Prince
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and Christopher Tabori is sponsored in part by imported Vigna
Rose Wine and Buick Motor Division. I'll be back shortly
with that one. The right Honorable Joseph Bailey is fifty
years old, has a wife and a son, Jack, age eighteen.
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The Judge is a man of both strength and sensitivity,
a fine combination in anyone, but most especially in a
man who holds and must exercise the power to dispose
of the futures and sometimes the very lives of others.
We foot meet Judge Bailey at a time when his
life has become almost in the portable. Don't eat so fat?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Tell you know what it does to you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I don't want any more car the yellen?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Why not? What's the matter with it?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I think's the matter with it. I just don't want anymore.
You always have to come this morning. I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh, this is the day, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Is? Is today?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
No, you've been dreading it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
He didn't say that again.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, now, dear, don't you think that just because this
is the day, you should start it off right now?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Relax and enjoy your.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Breakfast and well, maybe a good brisk walk to the
court high I was planning on walk.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It's a lovely day, Jodah. Don't eat so fast now
have I want to get started, But it's a really you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Don't wanna hang around down there?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Do you know? I don't wanna hang around here either?
Why not? Oh? Because of him? Because of him?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I don't think he's even out of bed yet.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Oh is he is?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I ain't moving around well in that case. But I
don't know what you're gonna do with your time. Court
doesn't begin until ten.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
He'll get some coffee.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh it's my heart that you drink cheap coffee when
you could be drinking mine.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh, do some reading in my chambers.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You too wrought up to do any reading? I can
tell I'll do something.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Anything's better than being here when Jack come downstairs, I
simply cannot go through that one more time. I can not.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, you'd better hurry, I think, I hear where's my
coat in the club?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Where else would it be?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yes, I don't bood no, I I won't you always
do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Ah, I'm glad you think so, my dear.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I take care father, you talk, I will.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Father sneaked off, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Now it's no way to talk about your father.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Jack didn't wanna face me, Come now, have your breath,
didn't wanna assume with me.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Your father has heard enough out of you, Jack. I
shouldn't have to remind you that your father is quick,
capable of making his decisions without your help. He's done
it on his own for a twenty years.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
This man's a murderer. I know that, and your father
knows that.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Is not the first murder trial your father's presided over.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Decided is it gonna be death or the penitentiary?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, I have no idea what he decided. I I
don't even know that he has decided.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He may be very I'll be thinking it over. That's
probably what he's doing right now.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
But he must have given you some idea which way
he's leaning each egg.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Jack, before they get cold, hasn't he?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
No, I don't believe you. I don't like to.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Be talked to that way. Jack, Now eat your egg.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
You mean he hasn't said anything to you about an
important case like this, So.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Your father never discusses any of his cases with me,
important or unimportant, until they're disposed of.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
This case a man murdering his father.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
All I know about it is what I've read in
the papers. And the man wasn't his father, He was
his adoptive father, the same thing. It's not even clear
that the man adopted.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He took him from the orphanage at age fourteen and
put him to work on his farm, as he'd.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Done with three other boys before, and did with too
more after.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes, But he raised them, gave them a home.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yes, And he never had to pay a cent to
a hired hand. Do you ever think of that part
of this?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Are you trying to say it was all right to
bash his head in with shovel just because he made
his kids do a little work.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Of course, I'm not saying but it was all right.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
You're on his side, don't you?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Whose side?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
For Heaven's sake, father's side? Your father, and on any
side you think the murderer should get away with the jack?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Now, I refuse to discuss this with you.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I absolutely refuse.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You don't blame your father for running out of the house.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well that's what he did, isn't It ran out.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Because he didn't want to listen to another one of
your harangues. And I don't want to hear another one either.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Now, this is your father's decision. It is part of
his job, and it's not very pleasant part either.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
So well, i'll thank you to leave it to him
and not to butt in.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now, if you don't want those eggs, hand them over
to me. I'll eat them myself. I take him I
don't want them, Well, I'll please tell some coffee at least.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
No, I don't want any where. Are you going? Well,
first I'm gonna get dressed, and then I'm going down
to that courthouse.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Jack, don't do that.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I want to hear this decision. You leave your father alone.
I'm not going near him. How could I he's unapproachable.
How could I do anything to him? He's unpouchable. He's
the judge.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
The final word.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Belongs to him.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's right, and that, guys, it should be.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I just want to be there to hear him pronounce
that final work.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
But why, Jack, why why do you care so much?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Because mother, this man, this murderer has got to die.
Can't you get that through your head? Has got to die.
Show it passes, please, I'm Jack Belly. See it passed. Please,
I'm Jack Belly. Judge, Billy is my father. Oh you're
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the judges. That's what I've been trying to tell you. Well,
in that case, I'll just go in special insuctions. You're
not to be admitted. He doesn't want you in the
court room. And he left particular instructions of that. Effects
left instructions with hope with me personally, Sir did didn't say,
and didn't inquire this building and Judge his word is long, mother,
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mother for heaven? See what is it? He barreed me
from the courtroom? Can you imagine that? Yes? Do you know?
Do you know he was going to do that? You
know he had no right?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Oh, he had every right.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's his courtroom. What was he afraid of?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Well, you know perfectly would he was afraid of that,
you'd make a scene, and probably you would have the state.
You've been in act too.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Very strongly about this. That man should be punished for
taking a life. He will be. He should give his
own life in exchange for the life he took.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, you know what the Supreme Court said about.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I don't care what the Supreme Court said. Twenty states
permit capital punishment, and ours is one of them.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
The twenty states are trying to get around the Supreme
Court decision out it remains to be the very.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Least father could have done. His go on record that
he's against the Supreme Court and for the state law.
Well maybe he will get better. Well, you'd better watch
how you talk about your father and what's your attitude
toward him too when wely be home.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He didn't say the sentence will be in the afternoon paper. Yes,
I imagine, so comes that come out noon something like that.
It's almost eleven thirty. I'm going out to buy one.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh Jack, I haven't sake, it's not out yet.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Now for half an hour at least. Now, I sit down,
cool off, I can't.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Why in the world is this case so important to you?
I I can't got the life of me figure it out.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Don't you understand the whole mess we're in, the whole
mess the world is in. You did it me, I
did it? But no, no, no, not you personally, your generation,
the generation of permissiveness, bleeding hearts, understanding tolerance or a
built You swallowed it whole. You poisoned the world with
all that compassion stuff you raised me on it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I never saw anything wrong with the way we raised you.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
When I flunked out of college. You sent me to Paris,
to art school.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Didn't you like Paris or art school?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Of course I liked it. That's not the point. Well
what is the point? I wasn't supposed to flunk out
of school. No, but you did.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What were we supposed to do about it?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You're supposed to let me get away with it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
But you'd already gotten away with it.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You're back in school now. I I I don't see
that any harm was done.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's not the point. It's the principle of the thing.
Nobody's supposed to get anything.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh jack, Jack, Oh, I'd hate to have that principle
apply to everything I've done.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'm going not to sit that afternoon papers on the
stand it isn't. Well, if it isn't, I'll go back
to the courthouse. Somebody down there to be able to
tell me what happened. Not Jack, Oh Jack, you came home?
May I come in? Yes? Sure? Sure? Well you uh
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want to know what the sentence was? Of course I
wanna know twenty years to life. You didn't. I didn't
sentence under death? No I didn't. Now I'm going upstairs
and lie down. Wait a minute, wait, one little minute. Check. Please,
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you can spare me a minute, can't you? I suppose
I can. How do you justify what you did? You
mean not sending the man to be killed. He can
get out of jail in twenty years, you know, if
he behaves himself. I know he can get out and
kill somebody else. But I don't think he will. You don't.
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You're willing to take a chance because you don't think
he will? Well, what else can I go on? But
my own man? How do you know he won't kill somebody?
I don't anymore than I know he won't, or you won't,
or anybody else won't except possibly your mother and I
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can't give you any guarantee about her if it comes
to that. Now, I if you don't mind, i'd i'd
like you've done a terrible thing. I I don't think
so you want to go grattize. I hope not. Well
you will. You'll see when if you're responsible another murder,
you're going to be very very sorry for what you've done. Jack, Jack,
If he kill somebody else, you'll be responsible. You'll be
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the murder yourself. But don't you just stop it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's open decided, it's over now. There's nothing more to
be said or done.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Nothing more to be said or done. That's right, nothing
more to be said, nothing more to be done, nothing,
dear so Pussye, we'll just wait and see about that.
Arguments between parents and their children are nothing new. Actually,
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they dominate the years the children are growing up. It
is not until the child has left the parents home
and has his own home produced his own children that
the passion subsides and the arguments turn into discussions. And
even then they're smolders beneath the acquired courtesy and the
polished tact, the ancient hostilities and the basic antagonism of
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the earlier years. I'll do that shortly with that too.
Nearly a month has passed since Judge Joseph Bailey sent
the confessed murderer to twenty years to life, A month
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since his son Jack denounced him as worse than irresponsible
for not having bent the murderer to his debt, since
his wife Helen said to their son there is nothing
more to be said, nothing more to be done. A
month since the boy replied, wait and see. Since that day,
an unidentifiable mood has permeated the Bailey home, a mood
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which neither mother nor fought nor son can break. You
need more body, or I can make this do well.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Nothing's need plenty of boat it, sh Helen.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Why doesn't that come down for breakfast anymore?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
We need up to him, Joseph.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
We can't make it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
A month ago I was avoiding him, and now he's
avoiding me. Well.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
As since the sentencing of that man, he's been different.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
No brother to deny it. He's been complete, plete different.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I wasn't going to deny it, though maybe I wouldn't
say completely.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well, he's been different, I I I thought. By now
I thought so too. I'll be in my study if
you want me. I have some brief to go over
there and probably take all morning.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well, I won't want you, because I'm finally.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Going to put up those peaches that I bought a
week ago.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
They'll be bad.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Let me see it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Mother, Oh jack, you startled me. Sorry, my AD's full
of dishes and everything. Don't you sneak up.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
On me with my hands full of dishes.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Don't ever do that again.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Don't care I wiver do that again.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Boil you tell some coffee there on, there's mouffins, but
you'll need better.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'll bring it, mother, Sit down it, I wanna clear
the table. Well, I wanna tell you something. Oh, come on,
put the dishes down.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh dear, well all right.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
What is it? I've made up my mind about something.
Oh what's that? I'm gonna see that man? What man?
That murderer? You know which one?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
That man is in jail?
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, of course he's in jail. Father, put him there.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Why do you wanna see him?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I wanna ask him a few things, like what, oh,
how he feels walking around alive after he's killed a man,
eating and sleeping and enjoying life.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I rather doubt that he's enjoying life.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
While he's living isn't he and the man he killed
isn't Jack.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You realize, don't you, that this man has gotten to
be an obsession with you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
No, it's not the man. It's the fact that he's alive.
I wanna know if he's feeling any remorse for what
he did, if he regrets it, if he feels any
sense of guilt at all.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I think you can take for granted that he feels
all those things.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh, but how do I know for sure? Unless I
ask him.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I'm sure your father won't approve.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I can't help her.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Well when you kind need to go to see.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
This man, I thought now today, this morning.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Oh Jack, You've got to think about it.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I thought about it for weeks.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Jack, Please, now, please don't rush into this. Please talk
to your father or somebody.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Don't just go tearing off, Harry. I'll be back sometime.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
What makes you think they'll even let you in?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Why? I'm the son of the right honorable Joseph Bailey
that ought to get me in any way, don't you think,
except of course, into his precious court.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah wait, wait, let me ask him.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Sorry Jack, Jack, Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Joseph, Yes, Ellen, I had to disturb your dear Oh,
that's all right, darling. Jack came downstairs right after you
came in here.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Well, didn't I joe to cheer him, yell, And.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
That's why I had to disturb you. You'll never guess
where he's gone. He's gone to see that man, you know,
the murderer. He's he's gone down to the jail to
talk to him, talk to him about what about his feelings?
He said, whether whether he feels sorry that he did
what he did, whether he feels remorse or gear all that. Joseph.
I tried to stop him, but I really didn't quite
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realize till the very last minute that he actually meant it,
that he meant to go now. He hardly listened to me,
and before I knew.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
He was out the door.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Worry about it, Ellen, They won't let him in.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
They won't.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Oh, I want that, of course they won't.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Don't seem to think that being your son, all he
had to do was mention your name.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I don't think my name. Imprecious of the woods and
too much not in his own bailiwick where he makes
the go to relief.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Another thing that worried me. I I didn't think if
if they did let him in that the man would
be too happy to talk to him, not if he
you how Jack thought about his all about his being
put away instead of being executed.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
He might refuse to see him, but I don't think
he'd hurt him.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, it's the one, and won't let him in.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
He won't.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, then I'll let you go back to your reading
and I'll get started on my peaches.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
You call me for life, I shall.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And half kind of brandy, huh, I things.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Like a lot of brandy.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Oh well, mother, Oh oh Jack, he's done it again?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Done? What knock on? From me?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
With my hands full?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Do you realize I.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Almost dropped the whole cup of your father's best brandy?
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Sorry, I'm making those branded peaches?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Jack?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
What's the matter? You look pale? Do I very pale?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
You look worn out?
Speaker 1 (18:03):
What is it? I saw him?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You saw whom?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Did you see?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
You know?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
The murderer?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
You mean you went to the jail?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I told you I was going, but they they.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Let you in to see him.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
It was nothing to it. I walked out into his
cell and I talked to him, and then they let
me out and I came home.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
It was that easy, of course, nothing to it. What
wh What did you talk to him about?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
What I told you? I asked him how he felt.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
What did he say about how he felt?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
He said he felt fine.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
He felt fine.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
He didn't feel guilty or remorseful or or anything. He
said the killing was the only thing in his life
he felt good about. Oh he couldn't have meant that. Oh,
yes he did. You should've heard him. He said it
was his first manly act. That's what he called it,
madly what hardly seems possible. Said he'd never felt so
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much like himself. In fact, he said it was the
only time he'd felt like himself, his true self. He said,
that's very strange.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It's it's that's a strange way to talk.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
He's an age, a little older than maybe a year
or two. He's got brown eyes and brown hair, and
he sat there, looking at me right in the eye
and telling me that the murder was the crowning achievement
of his life.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He didn't mean it.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
If you heard him, you wouldn't say that. Yes, he
meant it, all right, He really meant it. He upset
you didn't. He wasn't exactly what I'd hoped he'd say.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Why didn't you go upstairs and lie down for a bit.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I'll call you whence she's ready. I think I'll do that. Yes,
I I think I'll do. Call me for lunch.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I will now get a little rest.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He yes, I hear, Joseph. It's me.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I have to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Come in there, Jill.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They let him in. They let him in the wood
and let Jack in to see that man.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
He did well. I must say, I'm very surprised, and
not at all.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Please, Joe, that's not the worst of it.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
It's what the.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Man said to Jack.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
What did he say? Wait?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Incredible things? He said that the killing was the only
manly act of his life, the only thing he ever
felt good about.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
His crowning achievement, Joe. He said, it was his first
manly act.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Perhaps for him it was.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
But Joe, how can you talk like that?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Why didn't say I considered the manly act? I said,
it's quite possible that he did well.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I wish that he hadn't chosen it to say to
watch h.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Jack said that he showed no remorse. Whatsoever? Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Well, I should he show remorse if he didn't feel
any well?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I simply don't understand you at all.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Oh, he was very badly treated by the man he killed.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
And that's an excuse for murder, I I declare, I'm
beginning to see Jack's point.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You should have sentenced him to death. If that's his attitude.
Why if if everybody felt that way.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
If everybody spent his life getting even with everybody who
was unkind, everybody, Helen, Well, I all I know is
that Jack is very upset.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
He came home as though he'd been rocked to his
very soul.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
He was, he was not himself at all. Where is
he now? Well?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I told him to go upstairs and then lie down
for a while, and he said he thought he would. Joe,
don't be unkind to him, please, I won't be unkind.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I know that you've been terribly annoyed within.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
These past few weeks, keeping after you all the time
about the trial, of.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
About the sentence, But the moment I am a lot
more annoyed with the warden at the prison letting Jack
talk to that man. I can't imagine what he was
thinking of. Look, you go out to your kitchen. I'm
gonna call a warden and chew him out a little.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Alright, and don't forget. When Jack come downstairs, be kind
to him.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Don't worry. I'll be signed good. Come in, Oh Jack,
come in? You're busy. Oh no, no, not at all.
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I wasn't going to make a phone call. But uh,
I can wait. Sit down, Sair, I think i'd I
will stand up if you don't mind. Your mother just
told me that you to the jail, yes, to see
the man, and they let you see him. Of course
I walked right in. Will come now. It's not that
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easy to see any prisoner, let alone a convicted murderer.
Well it was for me. I can't really say that
I approve of your going there in the first place,
and in the second place, I very strongly disapprove a
warden letting you in. And I'm very unhappy about what
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the man said to you. Mother told you, yes, I
was gonna tell you myself because I wanted you to
see what you've done. But I've done. You let a
murderer live. If he kills somebody else, it'll be your fault.
You turned him loose, Now, Jack, I didn't turn him
loose on the phone. I let him win. What never
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mind about the phone? My lill answer in the kitchen.
I should or she will? You and I have got
something more important to take care of. Now, Jack. That
that's not a gun you have there, is it? It's
a gun, all right, we'll put it down for Heaven's sake.
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I told you, I told you a month ago what
a terrible thing you were doing, and you went ahead
and did a check. Check Chelsey to tepone, Helen, be careful.
Where are you all right? And I'm alright? Jack Black, Oh,
my lord Jack, I told you, didn't I tell you? Joseph, Joseph?
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Has he gone mad? Joseph, as I saw mad? What
is madness? When does the moment arrive? When it is
holly evident? Who is to call it madness? And who
is to call it revelation? How long may it last?
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And can it ever go away? Does it hide or
is it imprisoned? Or is it disguised in a million
minor ways till the day when it springs into full view?
And when it appears, who is to recognize it and
call it madness? I'll be back shortly with Act three.
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It's a great mistake to think of all young people
as radical and all their parents as conservative. The story
we are presenting here concerns a judge who chose to
spare the life of an acknowledged murderer and his son
who passionately asserted that the man should be put to death.
So passionate was his conviction that he was driven to
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threatening his father with a gun. A few moments ago
we heard shots shots from the gun held by the
judge's son on Gasia. Who, Judge Bailey, well, what, yes, yes,
I ask him to come higher? What on earth? Oh?
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Come in, judge, come on in? Think you wouldn't or
you uh have a chair? Thank you? I should have
phoned you before badging in like this a hard keys.
Why in the name of common sense did you let
my son see that? Now? I waite him in a
Judge Bailey, let you could have called and asked me, well,
I did call you? You certainly didn't. I did, and your
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wife answered the phone. She told me you were working
in your study and she didn't want to disturb you.
What in the world was the idea of like? I didn't.
Jack never saw the man. He he didn't know. He
seemed very disturbed when they showed up here, not normal
at all. And he couldn't give me any logical reason
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why he should be allowed to talk to the man.
So of course I totch it and give my permission.
No one else could have let him know. My word
is law here, Judge wh you and apology wouldn't get
Robertolli's perfectly all right, But uh, what made you think
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that Jack did talk to the man that he say
he had. Well, he told his mother some story and
she told me I I should have checked right away
instead of Well, no matter, now, I I do apologize,
wouldn't you know, Judge Bailey, I, uh, I might have
let him in just because he's your son. I say,
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might have, except that he was so so overwrought. Plus
the fact that he had a gun was in his
pocket very poorly concealed. We spotted it the minute he
walked in. Your son doesn't know too much about guns
are taken. I I didn't even know he had one,
and uh, they're easy enough to pick up. Unfortunately, of course,
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I asked him what he planned to do with it?
What did he They told me it was none of
my business, and then he ran out of here. That
was when I called you and talked to your wife,
and well, as I told you, yes and I did
call back several times, but we always got a business signal.
I suppose your wife must have left the phone off
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the hook. Uh uh yeah, yes, she she she must have.
I figured, Uh something happened. Then she just forgot. Yeah, yeah,
that that's right. Uh, something happened and she she forgot.
He wouldn't She's I'm gonna ask a favor of you,
A a a great favor. If you feel you can't
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grant it, please say so and I'll understand it, or
I think, who judge Bailey, I will do? I wanna
talk to this man? Uh well, now wait a minute.
I know I shouldn't ask, and and I wouldn't accept it. Well,
it's terribly important to me. I won't ask to see
him for more than old, you know, five minutes, perhaps
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that it shouldn't take more than that. And I don't know.
I really it's more important to me than I can
probably explain, wouldn't I? I wish I could explain, But at
the moment I can. Perhaps one day, I I don't know, mm,
five minutes not a second longer? All right? Why would
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you like to talk to him? And he places it
all in his cell? Look, if you're afraid he'll do
me some harm? Or is that it you're afraid he
might attack me, or seeing as you're the man who
spared his life. But even so, if if you think
he's dangerous, I'm willing to chance that. I mean, it's
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that important to me. I don't consider in dangerous at all.
I think this murder is probably the only crime he'll
ever commit. Mean that trued with a crime of passion,
pure and simple. I think he'll make trusty with him
a year. Really, most about plus as the murderers. Didn't
you know that? I never thought about it? Oh? Not
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the professional killers are the psychotic ones, but the the
one time murderers, where the stress and strain of their
particular situation simply overwhelmed them, where the buried holiday suddenly surfaced,
and there's a rule justice suddenly subsided, never to surface again.
It's interesting. Well, now, how would you like to see
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this man right here in my office? Could I five minutes?
At my word? Okay? You know, I'd like to know
sometime what you think of him personally? I like him.
You stay right here, I'll have him brought in. Uh
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you know who I am? Huh, hey, I should not
you think. Yes, it's a silly thing to say. Look,
we only have five minutes, I I promised the warden,
So if you don't mind, I'd like to come straight
to the point. Yes, sure, okay, I uh I have
a son about your age. He uh didn't agree with
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the twenty to life I give you. He he thought
you should have been given the death penalty. Ah right,
he uh he his name is Jack. Jack grew really
exercised about it as the trial went on, very very vehement. God,
so I avoided speaking to him for hevery bring it up.
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I I. I didn't wanna argue with him, and I didn't
want him to take the chances influencing me in the
slightest huh I. I guess you've learned your reputation. I mean, like,
really are a good joshually barred him from the courtroom
on the day I handed down my decision and made
him even more more agitated, more hostile. And then came
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the day you've been locked up here about a month.
I guess when he told his mother that he was
going to come here to see you. Yeah four, I
I don't know precisely to see how you were reacting
to the to the crime. I guess he never saw me,
so the Wharton just told me. But that came home
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and told his mother that he had seen you, and
that you were cool with that cucumber about the whole time,
not quite that you'd never felt so much like a
man as when you killed about her, that it's the
only thing you ever felt good about. Where could he
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have gotten such an idea? Why? Yeah, I couldn't say
for sure, but maybe because that's exactly the way I
do feel about it. You mean that, yeah, sure, No,
no remorse, none, none at all. I gotta not be here,
of course, and I know I shouldn't have taking a
man's life, But but like deep inside, deepen, I really
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care to look at the moment I I I know
that my whole life had been like leading up to
the killing. And it wasn't even that killing, the killing
of that man, I mean it was it was like
it was the killing of my own father. You don't
mean you you And no, no, I didn't kill my
own father. Though I know I wanted to, I couldn't
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do it because I was only four years old when
he took me to the orphanage and left me there.
He never said he was coming back for me, but
I always believed he would. I went on believing for
well for a long time. And when this other man
took you out of the orphan, oh, I pretended to
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myself my father had come for me. If course the
pretense didn't work. Pretenses never do. I'm gonna tell you
something that I uh, i'd I'd rather you didn't be
to anyone. Okay, I uh I have your word. He
shouldn't it you got The warden wouldn't let Jack see
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you because well, I guess it's against regulatings. But besides that,
Jack had a gun on him. He came home after
the warden had turned him down, and he he came
into my study where I was working, and he reproached
me again for for letting you live, and he he
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fired a shot at me. His mother came into the
room at that moment, tell me about the phone call,
and he turned the gun on himself. Oh no, mind you.
No one knows about this. Yeah, But I mean, like
I said, it'll come out on how he died. He isn't.
He isn't dead. He's wounded. He's in the hospital, but
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he'll live. Now, Can you tell me why you have
done such a thing. I mean, I realize you can't possibly, no,
not not really, but but i'd like your opinion me, okay, alright?
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What it's what I think that you know brooding about me?
What one your son read my feelings accurately. Now, whether
this was thought transference or telepathy or whatever, I don't
know too much about those things. But he discovered that
this desire that killed a father is a uh a
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universal wish. But I always thought my son loves me.
Well he does, I'm sure he does, But that doesn't
all of the other thing that does it? I mean
it it could keep it from like surfacing, but it
doesn't really all of it. Nothing does nothing, can it it.
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It's hard for me to accept the fact that that
my son died could kill me. Oh but he did.
Don't you see, did you? No? Y y, you mustn't
think that happened. He he was standing right close to you,
wasn't e wny five shots well about six feet away? Right? Yeah?
I mean you weren't moving, were you you? You weren't
trying to stop him or I was t I was
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too astonishing him and and perhaps too afraid. So you
were a perfect target. Weren't you well I suppose it,
Yes I was, And yet he missed you completely, didn't he?
It is will judge anyone who could miss a stationary
target at six feet He he just didn't wanna hit it,
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so he only succeeded, and the only himself. My wife,
Thank you from the bottom of my eye for all
you said. No, thank you sir for my wife. Hello, son,
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how are you coming along? Okay? I guess that's what
the doctors tell me. Father buying her thinking, trying to think.
I can't understand how it all happened. It's all right.
I was out of my mind. That's the only way
I can figure it that. You think, so I think
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something like that. It won't ever happen again. Oh, Jack
went to see the man in jail, the murderer. Why'd
you take a gun with you? Oh? Yes, the gun?
Did you mean to kill him with it? Oh? No?
Oh no no. Did you think you'd do what I
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hadn't done? Begid's life? No? See, I thought he'd be
so so remorseful. I thought he'd be eating up with
remorse and guilt and sorrow for what he'd done. I
thought he wouldn't wanna live, So I thought I'd just
hand him the gun and he'd do the rest. But
I you thought he'd himself. But I never got to
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see him, did I No funny, I thought, while I
did see him, and we talked a little bit, and
he was surrogant and he wasn't sorry at all. It
was very clear to me at the time. Now, nah,
I'm not so sure. Rests and it'll all come clear
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one day soon. Thou shout not kill. This simple, terse
statement is in the Book of Exodus. It is not
followed by the word except, or the word less, or
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any qualifying phrase hope. It reads plainly, thou shalt not kill.
We might ask why the Lord thought it necessary to
deliver this stern injunction. Can it be for any other reason?
But that the impulse to kill lies fermenting silently in
every human heart. I'll be back shortly. You're on the
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Speaker 1 (41:05):
That's Monday at two fifteen. Dear listeners, I hope we
have not saddened you with our account of the darker
side of man's nature. If we have, let me leave
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you with these lovely words from the Book of Psalms.
Mercy and truth are met together. Righteousness and peace had
kissed each other. Weeping may endure for a night, but
joy cometh in the morning. Our cast included William Prince,
Augusta Dabney, Christopher Tabori, and Ian Martin. The entire production
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