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October 4, 2025 56 mins
Keshawn R. Hughes is a Neurocoach, NeuroLeadership Consultant, Speaker and NeuroSavvy® founder.   She shares powerful wisdom into neuroscience and the spiritual practice of Meditation and stillness keeps you in the Spirit.   You will also gain insight into Neuroscience and The Law of Attraction and Manifestation.   Ms. Hughes gives insight into healing and how our brain responds to the reprogramming of our minds, visualization and setting intentions.  You will learn how powerful your brain is in assisting you in manifesting your best life.  
 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the Law of Attraction Radio Network. International
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(00:20):
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life you've been dreaming of. And now here's Constance Arnold.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, hello Paw with the Manifesto, and welcome to the
Law of Attraction Radio Network. And of course I am
Constance Arnold, host of the Think Believe In manifest talk show,
and I am so excited and so grateful that you
made a decision to tune in today. I mean, I
don't know where you are. You might be in Europe

(00:53):
on the train going to work. I get so many
of my Europinion listeners who I listen to you every
week as I'm going into work, and or it might
be evening. You just might be sitting outside chilling listening
to me, or you might be in the gym working

(01:13):
out or just walking. But whatever time it is, you know,
I just believe that God has attracted you here and
you are going to really receive exactly what you've been
looking for. Well, it is simply a beautiful day here
in the atl It is fall. The leaves are beginning

(01:35):
to turn. You know, we could just feel it in
the areas, kind of like manifestation. You can tell when
things are about just shifting change. Right. Well, I have
a very special guest today, miss Keishawn Hughes. I used
to be her coach and now she's a neuroscience and
she's gonna talk to us about neuroscience and manifestation. What

(02:01):
road does our brain our thinking? Isn't that interesting? And
just the science behind manifestation, go setting spirituality. I can't
wait to hear what she has to say. Well, guys,
I want you to follow me on social media on
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(02:26):
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the weekend that I am probably right in the middle
of my retreat, and I'll make sure that i'll tell

(03:14):
you about it next week. What else do I want
to say reminding folk about coaching? You know, it is
October and if you want change. I was talking to
somebody this week and she said, nobody that I know
does it by themselves, even the great people like Jack Canfield, Proctor,

(03:39):
all of those guys, they had coaches. And she was
just saying, she's a coach, but she's being coached herself.
And if you are ready for changing, if you're tired
of waiting for your breakthrough, well I'm waiting on God
or everybody. You got to have a test to do it,

(03:59):
have a test the money when in fact, you know,
I just believe more and more in effortless manifestation for real, y'all.
God didn't have us just to study all of these
principles and just to wait. And certainly there are universal principles. However, comer,

(04:21):
there's an easy way for manifestation. So if you're ready
for change, you already know my track record. And if
you're serious. You've been listening to me and listening and listening.
You're ready to invest in yourself, invest time effort. In
ninety days, your whole world could be rocked, shifted and changed.
So let's do a discovery called constance at fulfilling your

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purpose dot com is anything else I want to say.
I just want to say thank all of you for
following me all of these years, seventeen years. I'm just
all ways of maid at people who follow me, and
I'm so grateful and I'm so thankful. And let's share

(05:08):
this powerful message with other people. Share it with your coworkers,
because there's a lot happening globally. You've heard me say
doing these times and really all times, you need to
watch your eye gate that's what you're watching. Your ear gate,
that's what you're listening to. And your mouth's gate, that's
what you're saying out of your mouth. Keep your mouth closed,

(05:33):
stay out of other folks business, tend to your own business.
Move in silence, don't talk about what you're gonna do.
Be about what you're gonna do. And that's that's what
that would be my little tip for you now that

(05:53):
you ask for one for this week and anything else.
Of course, you can get my book on my books
on Amazon, how to Attract and Manifest Genuine Love. You
know people talking about fake news, and I'm going to say,
we ain't talking about fake love. We're talking about the

(06:14):
real deal. And then my secrets to success. I think
that is it. Just let me know how this show
is shifting and changing you. I would love to hear
about your manifestations. Email me and let me know constance
and fulfillingourpurpose dot com? What do you want me to
teach more on? What would you like to hear you?

(06:37):
Guys say you love it when I teach, and I
love to teach. What would you want me to teach on?
And I'll be more than happy to do that. I
think that's all I'm going to say. Everybody, let's take
a deep breath, in let it out. We know breadth
means in spirit, deep breadth, in let it out. I'm

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Speaker 2 (08:02):
Well, everybody, I am back, and how many people want
to learn a little bit about neuroscience. And I have
a powerful woman today that's gonna help us with manifestation
with our brain how to be more successful and healthy.
So my very special guess is a powerful woman, Keith

(08:25):
Shawn Hughes. She is a neuro coach, neuro leadership consultant, speaker,
and she's the founder of neurosavvy, and before we got
on this call, I said, you've about to be a
neuro author. I used to be her coach, and her
whole mission is to help as many people as she

(08:46):
possibly can optimize their brains for better health than overall success.
She's really smart, y'all. She got a master's degree, a
remarkable story, and she's gonna help us to understand neuro science,
our brain, manifestation, spirituality and all of all of the above.

(09:08):
I got that, so Keithshawn Hughes, Welcome to the Law
of Retraction Radio Network.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
I'm so happy to be here with you at this time.
It's so so important and wonderful to be here with
you as constance.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, if you have so much, as say, I want
you to speak of just a little bit, so I'll
sound of being so Keith Shawn. I used to be
your coach.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
You were, and I feel like you still are. Listen
when did that stop?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
When did it stop?

Speaker 6 (09:38):
You still putting out such wisdom. I still listen to
your podcast. I'm still gleaning and learning. So yes, officially, yes,
you were my first coach and I always give you credit.
And when I tell my story that I invested in myself,
very afraid, very afraid.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
To even put out that amount of money.

Speaker 6 (09:57):
And it was you actually gave me a deal because
I came to one of your events and it was
one time only at that event, and I said, Okay,
I'm gonna do it, and it was one of the
best decisions I've ever made.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I remember that. I was so impressed with you. And
so let's share with our listening audience just a little
bit more about you. Because during that time you were
let go from your job.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
I was, and so much of my identity was tied
in that job and I didn't even realize it.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
I didn't even like it was very important to me.
It was very.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Necessary in my mind at the time financially for me
and my family.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
And so yes, I did. I was laid off from
my job.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
I had worked in corporate for almost twenty years, it
was nineteen years at that time, doing that kind of
work from marketing to product management, project management, operations related work, communications.
Just wherever a person or a company needed me in
the business, I would show up and deliver and try
my best and give great results.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
So it was important to me.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
So what was that like to be so identified with it.
And then I remember that process with you, and you
know a lot of people are in that vibration right
now for in mine. Now, what do I do? I mean?
Were you depressed? What was that like for you?

Speaker 6 (11:24):
I think I was in shock, even though I had
written a letter months before the layoff happened, saying my goodbye,
So something in me new it was happening. I was
preparing to leave. I was preparing to transition out of
that job. It just happened before I was ready, and that.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Part shocked me. So it was shocking.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
And I really relied on the principles you had coached
me on of abiding with God. When you first mentioned that,
I really didn't understand what you meant.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
I was like, what does that even me?

Speaker 6 (12:00):
I want to be successful, I want to, you know,
get into these levels of corporate I was trying to
climb the corporate ladder and earn more money.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
And I had goals.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
I wash, my family had goals. We wanted to build
a home, and we were living our dreams.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
So abide with God.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
I didn't understand how that worked with it, but I
feel like that's what was essential for me at that time,
just my prayer practice, my time that I had carved
out every day to spend time with the Lord. And
that's what got me through because from there it really
opened up other aspects of me to where I could listen,
to listen to what spirit was saying and trust it

(12:39):
enough to go along with it.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I see that. And so there's profit in stillness. Yes,
so the Bible is profitable. Profitable, you're gonna learn how
to okay, drink long water. That's profit in stillness. Call
this person, it's time to upgrade. So why wouldn't you

(13:04):
want to abide in God, abide in spirit where all
the wisdom that you need, the Bible says, the Spirit
has laid up sound wisdom for us. And so we all,
especially doing times like these, I'm Kendrick Lamar. Turn the
TV off, Yes, turn the TV off and go within

(13:28):
and receive those million dollar ideas. And so that's what
I said to you. And I know people were like, well,
you know what the world does that have to do?
I want to be successful. I need somemo any why right?
I know that's what you were saying behind my back, right, YEP.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
I was confused, but there was so much wisdom there
and I trusted you, Thank you. And then my trust
that I had in you led me to develop a
deeper trust in God, which is someone I could not see,
and so I had to start with someone I could
see and hear. And then that's what led to that,
and so that in prayer, in meditation, and there's so

(14:08):
much science to that, so much.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Nervous Yeah, we're gonna dig into that. Okay, So what
is neuroscience? Explain that for us for listens, what.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
Is that is the study of our brain and nervous system,
how it works. That's what it is in a simple definition.
And when we understand that, we're able to connect with
ourselves better. And that's what I really needed. I needed
to connected within myself. Another principle you taught me was

(14:39):
to we want to lead and live from the inside
out instead of being so externally focused. So the study
of how my brain and nervous system worked truly helped
me study what was happening inside of me so that
I could more effectively lead from the inside out. That's
what neuroscience is.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, So nervous system, there's a lot of talk around. Okay,
we've got to calm down our nervous What is our
nervous system.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
With so many systems in our body.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
We have our cardiovascular system that has to do with
our heart and the blood that pumps through our body.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
Our nervous system has to do with our brain and
all of the cells and vessels and neural pathways that
are connected to our brain that actually help us to
feel a sense of calm or anxiety or fear.

Speaker 6 (15:25):
They help us to get out of difficult or troubling
situations and to safer, more familiar situations. That is happening
within us in a system, so it happens not as
one aspect of ourselves. It's connected to our brain, our heart,
and our gut, and they have pathways that go up
and down throughout the day that help us to wake up,

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that help us to go to sleep, that help us
to show up for work, that help us to learn
when to turn that off. And so that's what the
nervous system is and a lot of us.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
I know I was.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
Operating in a very anxious state, in a very survival
oriented state where I was always doing. I was overdoing, overworking,
not being, not just being still. As you described in
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I love you explained that so well. And so I
read all of your reviews on your your rave reviews
on your website, and you just break it down in
very simplistic way so that people can understand, comprehend, but

(16:34):
also executed or walking out in their lives.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
That's right. That's so important to me. That's what I needed.
That's what I needed.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
I needed, I needed the understanding, and I needed to
For me, I was coming out of a very analytical state,
like working around subject matter experts, brilliant tech leaders.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
That was my world.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
That was how I was ingreened for almost twenty years,
and so I knew that the dicisions they were made
were typically based on data and evidence and research. So
I had to find how that connected to me personally
and as a communicator and a marketer.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
I said, oh, I can break that down. If I
can tell you how.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
That widget works and how that new upgrade of that
software works, I can totally understand how our own brand
and body works. So that's that was important to me,
to just break it down. So that's the best compliment
that you can give.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
And so when she was coaching with me, that's why
I tell y'all, I be coaching by the spirit. I
said to her, you need to you need to contact
my friend, the brilliant Chante Javan.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Yes, and scientists.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
She's brilliant. It's crazy. And so even though Kishawan was struggling,
God was trying to upgrade her and a pathway was
made for you. But it started with what we're getting
ready to talk about. It started with that daily practice
of stillness and abiding in God. So what happens when

(18:10):
we are still abiding in God, what is our brain doing.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
It's getting to a state of what they call homeostasis. Okay,
it's a state of calm and safety, a stillness, a
peace where that's where we can actually as access the
parts of our brain that are related to our vision,
like literally.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Our decision making.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
When we are not in homeostasis, when we are anxious
or in survival mode or depressed in negative thinking, we
are operating from the middle part of our brain, which
is our emotional center, and it's telling us that everything
is dangerous everything God. Do anything you can to protect yourself,
even blocking out good things, even blocking out light and

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positive things. That's what our brain does to keep us
safe because it's doing what it knows to protect us
when we're in danger, as if we were in the
ancient times face to face with a saber tooth tiger.
That's what it does. But we are not in ancient times.
We are right now in the twenty twenties, right.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
And we are safe.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Many of us are blessed to have shelter, We're blessed
to transportation, we have jobs, we have education, we have freedom,
we have a sense of autonomy. And so when we
consit in stillness, it allows us to access that. It
tells us what's real and what's true and what's healthy.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Wow, that is so amazing. I know doctor MICHAELH. Beentwoods
ye had a god backed church. He said, when we
are in stillness, we tune into the lowly broadcasting station
of the spirit.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
It's true, it's always plain, it's always on. And ooh,
that's such a good description. That is absolutely true. That's
what I'm able to access every day. That's why typically
I feel like I'm jumping out on the screen at
you right now. This is how I show up to
places because I'm tuned into that, and being still over
a number of years helps me to be able to

(20:18):
do it instantly. And it's the best place. It's your
own personal high and it's real, it's real, it fuels you,
it's never ending, it's always giving.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
And it just propels you forwards. And that's what it's
done for me. And I think that's what that's what
goes get keep you going to I know it is.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, I'm meditated this morning. Yes, yes, yes, And because
I did. When I read over your bio, I'm like, okay,
she's not an author yet. And because so I was quiet,
the spirit said, make sure you're getting ready to coach?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Is time?

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
That is the best, best, best confirmation. It's already happening.
So I love that you said that. And that's an
example of tuning in. It's on the station and so
we were both able to tune into the same station
and we meet here, we meet together and it's it's
the best feeling.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
So so listeners they need to calm down. Yeah, when
they do, they get in home yo stations. Did I
say that right? And when and when they're in that,
when we're in that state, we can hear and receive
that is that what's happening.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
That is what's happening.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
You can hear it. You can some people see it.
They're able to see visions. They're able to look out
at an empty space and see it all full of
whatever it is that they're creating.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Some people are able to feel it. They can feel
it in their bones. You know, you just have that.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
You I have goosebump moments where I'm like, oh, I
felt that. That means something that has meaning. Some people
can tell it. I even it's such a it's such
a sensitivity where you can begin to smell things that
are allowing you to guide you to the way that
you need to go, or guide you away from something right,
like something don't smell right, you know, the milk and
clean those types of things that our ancestors said.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
The elder said that literally.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
Is connected to our nervous system and it's giving us information.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So absolutely I love that, and so neurologically, when we
engage in prayer and meditation and quiet reflection, it's a
powerful practice or state of being.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
It is.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
It opens up all of our centers. We don't have
to just be so mind oriented, thought based. It opens
up every aspect. Every gate can be can have access
to what's good for us, what's to come for us.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
We're we're an open vessel.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
We're open, literally, we have vessels within us, right, And
the neuroscience to that is there are they call them
efferent and afferent pathways. So there are pathways that go
from our brain to our bodies, and then there are
ones that go from our bodies to our brains.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
And when we allow ourselves.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
To be still and get into that calm state, that
open state, our bodies can then send us signals that
help guide us towards what God wants for us, what's
good for us?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Man, I love science. I love saying. So let's talk
a little bit about the law of attraction. So, hey,
it's the beginning of October, and so when a person
makes a decision or sets an intention I want to
let's just say I want to release twenty pounds before

(23:50):
the end of the year, or I want to receive
an extra five thousand dollars. What happens to our brain
once we set an intention, we begin to think about it,
We begin to visualize what's happening in our brain.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
There's something called the reticular activating system, and that's connected
to reticular or retina, our eyes. It literally opens up
our ability to visually see. If you are a cited person. Wow,
we see things that possibly you didn't see before that
are leading you to that thing, and it can seem
out of the way like that was odd, that was interesting.

(24:27):
I never saw that before. For me, I actually see
repeating numbers all day, every day. When I'm on the
right path, it's coming up. I just happen to look
at my phone. It's a repeating number. It's nine fifty five.
I'm doing my work, deep in my work. Look up again,
it's ten fifty five. Deep more in it, like throughout
the day. So it's like literally allowing me to see
something that has meaning to me, that knows that, that

(24:50):
lets me know and feel comforted that I'm moving in
the direction towards that intention.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
And so when we say I want to what stop
brainde When it said I'm ready to release twenty pounds,
does it start looking and searching for us? What does
that look like?

Speaker 6 (25:09):
No real logiclyn It can either do that and sometimes
it doesn't at the same time as it's trying to
hold you back. But what if we release this. This
is keeping us comfortable at this time, this is protecting
us from something at this time. What if we release
it and then we don't feel comfortable in our skin.
What if more people start looking at me? What if
that makes me more visible? What if that gives me

(25:32):
more attention? I don't want more attention. So different things
can happen. There's a term that I learned called cognitive
dissonance where I love that word, yes, where we I
don't know what it means, but I love it.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
This.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
It reminds me I played the clarinet for years.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
When there's a dissonant chord, when something is just off,
somebody's flat, somebody's out of key. Right, And so if
you said an intention, but your body has been operating
in a certain way for decades and you get this
new intention that's out of chord or seems off your body,
your brain's gonna tell you know, that seems off.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
We're not used to that, we don't want that. So
that can happen.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
So yes, for some if you're able to maintain that
state of homeo stations and go back to a return
to it, create that new habit every day, day in,
day out, your body will begin to release and believe
that you can actually have that new intention that's so
different from what you're familiar with, so we know when
we visualize.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You know, they say that the subconscious and the brain
don't know the difference between a lie. You're so fun
between a lie and the truth. So talk about that.
What's happening neurologically when we close our eyes and we
begin to see. In my mind, I already see certain

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things before the end. I'm already living in the end.
What's happening in a.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Brain that's so powerful? That is such a powerful practice.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
It's the same system that's activated, that reticular activating system.
It acts like a movie screen in our mind that
allows us to envision and be in a setting as
if it's the real thing. Our brains don't only respond
to what's happening right before us, but it responds to
what we how we what we think is happening, how

(27:27):
we perceive a situation. That's what is responding to our perceptions.
Our perceptions might be way off, and that's why it's
so important. And that's what I do in my coaching
and my training is help people take different perspectives. We
do perspective taking because everybody could have a different perspective
of the same situation. And so if you are literally

(27:50):
in a state of abundance of care. People you're surrounded
with people love you, but you don't. You don't feel that.
It might be something you might need to take a
different perspective. You might need to be going into that
visualization and just imagining that people love you. Your brain might
be more willing to believe that than what you.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Are seeing right before you.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
It might take some time to get there, but absolutely, yes,
what we visualize, what we imagine, is just as real
to our brain as what we are experiencing in real time.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So does O bring help bring manifestations to pass.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
Absolutely, it's a field. It's we are so big. We
think of ourselves as so small, and yes, I guess
in the terms of the universe being so massive, we
can seem very small.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
But even our life has meaning, it has power. The
field goes out way beyond us. It's like when a
person walks into the to a room and the energy shifts.
Everybody's head turns towards that person.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
And they're twenty feet away from you.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
It's because that's how big they are. They are able
to shift the energy in the room. Our brain creates
a field. It's so it's amazing. Like I said, I'm
not going to get into the specific so I'm gonna
keep it really practical. And there's evidence that backs all
of this up. But we have to understand we're more
than what we just can see with our own two eyes.
If you have sight, we are more than that. We

(29:14):
are bigger than that. We have big energy. It moves things,
it shapes things, and it's powerful and if we can
use it in the right way, if we can use
it to work towards our positive intentions and what we
want to manifest, then it will.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well the feel Yeah, I read somewhere ninety nine percent
of our energy is dark energy and it's waiting for
us to decide what we want to create it.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
It's shaped and formed and yes, no what is it?
In physics they say energy is neither created or destroyed.
It's just nude and it goes out as something new
at something. So I need to keep that in mind
in my daily thoughts and behaviors that I could go
into something with a lot of intensity and do I

(30:13):
want it to be a positive state of intensity or
a negative and that will help shape what comes back
to me.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And last one on the law of attraction, then we're
gonna get to healing and codependency. So thought can when
we think something over and over and feel something over
and over neurologically, what is our brain saying? Can our
brain feel what's happening there when we think something? You know,

(30:44):
if we think, oh, I don't have enough money, if
we think, oh, I'm beautiful, I'm smart. I just did
a real for October and I said, October has unlimited
possibilities for surprises and opportunities waiting for you. So if

(31:05):
I tell my brain that and I think that, what
is my brain doing neurologically?

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Oh, it's creating what's called a neural pathway, which is
physically it's like if you were to look at it
under a microscope, you'll see like an electricity spark going
to and from throughout your brain. And so it's forming
a habit and it's creating your experience.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Our habits.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
We are nothing if not our habits. What we do
every day, what we think about every day, what we
say every day. So that physically shows up in your brain,
and then parts of that neural pathway that that electricity
passes through gets fatter and thicker. And so I'm going
to build up a habit that's positive, that's yes, me
thinking of all the good things happening to me, so

(31:51):
that that tends to create be created, and it builds
momentum over time. It just starts to happen without me
even really trying really hard or not wants to trying,
without much effort. When I build up this neural pathway
that is positive that thinks the best of me, it
literally operates on my behalf without me putting much effort

(32:13):
into it, if that makes any sense. Yeah, brushing your teeth,
it's just like, yeah, that I can do that without thinking.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
And you know, I can see how your analytical god
is using your analytical background and brain over here in
this new version, this new identity that you have, because
you explain it and break it down in such easy,

(32:42):
simplistic terms that we get it.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Thank you. That's all. That's the best. That's the best compliment.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Okay, So let's talk about relationships and healing, codependency of
the brain's role and self validation and empowerment. And you know,
I talk a lot about relationships code dependency. So from
a neuroscience perspective, what's happening in our brain when we

(33:10):
co dependent, y'all. This is some codependence stuff, not sett
in boundaries. Don't know how to say no, focusing in
on the needs of other folks, needing self approval, validation,
Do I need to keep going? That's enough, So what's happening.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
I'm so thankful. I'm so thankful for you and your coaching.
I remember after our very first session, you sent me
a write up of your reflections on what we would
work on together based on that conversation, and you mentioned
letting go, releasing the remnants of codependency. You could tell
I had done some work, but there was some work

(33:46):
to go, and that was profound for me. It was
so helpful for me because the biggest thing is to
be self aware.

Speaker 5 (33:53):
I feel like when we're operating in codependence.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
There is a lack of self awareness because we're so habituated,
our habits are so survival oriented. We are operating from
that middle part of the brain that I said that
it's just about survival protection fixing, like everything is a
problem that needs to be fixed. There's never a state
of homeostasis. There's never a state of comfort, of chill,

(34:18):
of relax of assuredness of trust. I don't trust others,
and I don't necessarily I trust me a little bit more,
but in an unhealthy way. I trust that I'll be
the one to fix you, not thinking of myself as
needing to be supported and help myself.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
And so that's what's happening in our brain.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
We're operating from a state of survival, a state of
it's called amygdala hijack or amigdala. Our emotional center is hijacked.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Words keep going, but we.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Are not able to make sound decisions. It's a problem
with decision making. We're not making healthy decisions. We're not
using the front of our brain, the most evolved part
of our brain, right behind our forehead, that, like I said,
allows us to tap into better decision making, a sense
of piece. It actually calms down. If we can allow
ourselves some time to sit in stillness and to calm

(35:09):
down that mid part of the brain, our blood vessels
will be opened up in the front and blood will
flow there, and it actually allows us to have different
thoughts that think about ourselves, that calm ourselves down, that.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Say hey, it's okay for me to say no and
feel good about it, and I'm safe.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
I'm safe saying no. We get to move into a
space of actually feeling a sense of safety, because we
don't feel safe when we're operating in codependency, and.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
So essentially codependency is learned from the age of zero
to seven. You know this better than I do. You
know our whole person avity. You know, we catch a
lot of stuff. So people who are in relationships and
who are code dependent keep attracting the same kind of person,
same kind of friendships. How does healing come neurologically in

(36:03):
our brains when once you said awareness is so big,
how does that show up? You know what?

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Developing a relationship with a safe person where we can
be honest with we can truly be ourselves so that
it would be you for me, Like, I'm so blessed
that my very first coach kept it so real but
was so safe and honest. And you said, I know
this better than you. Nobody knows it's better than you said.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
You put me on game. I said, oh, this is
what's left.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
That I need to work on and continue and always
be aware of it for the rest of my life,
because yes, those are my default settings set in those
ages between zero and seven. So I need to be
aware that this could spark up at any time, but
I can choose.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
That's another thing.

Speaker 6 (36:52):
The great thing about healing from codependency is I have
all of these choices opened up to me. They were
always there, I just didn't know that they were there.
So having that awareness that I have choice, I have agency.
I can say no, one feels safe, and it starts
with forming a relationship with a safe person.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
And you were that for me.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Wow, Okay, that's amazing, and I'm that for a lot
of people. A lot of people say thank you, thank you. Sometimes,
you know, even when people go to twelve steps or AA,
you know, they said, well, I don't trust God. I
just know God. I'm gonna I don't trust the group's right,

(37:37):
I'm gonna trust the process until people can gradually change.
And so once people become aware that I can trust
or I can heal, because when you don't heal, it's
gonna impact you in your money, in trusting your clients.
You're going to be observe when you could be open.

(38:02):
Would you say that that's true?

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Absolutely, it affects your ability to be free And yeah,
you said that, Well, you know what I heard this
in prayer, says Keishan. You need to show as you
because you're the only youth. Just be the you that
only you can be. And there's a freedom in that,
and I it even helps for others to latch onto their.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Own sense of freedom.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
If she's being that, I think I can do that too, right,
So for me, like you said, it was me trusting
another person.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
For others, that's trusting a process.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
Like all of my relationships, even the one if I
was to have one when God is shot, I gotta
trust a process, right, and just working that process repeatedly
day after day, holding on and trusting that if they
say it's true, what they say is true, I will
receive benefits from that. And when I that's it, that's

(38:58):
it right there, I feel like I begin to feel
the benefits of that. I begin to see that show
up in other aspects of my life, and it became
like a snowball effect. So momentum was built, which just
grew my trust. And so it's definitely, I would say,
an experience of building trust over time, trusting myself, trusting others,

(39:19):
trusting the process.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, and so once we I'm thinking of two things neuroplasticity. Yeah,
that's so explain to listeners. What is that.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Yes, our brains, they say, are like plastic, meaning that
they're moldible, they're shapable every moment. We won't be the
same after this conversation. That we will because our brains
are taking on what was said. The environment is depositing
something in us that makes us ever different than ever changing.

(39:53):
So it really pushes back against the belief that people
don't change.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
We change every day.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Our brains have the capacity to change too, And so
that's what it is. Neuroplasticity. Your brains are like plastic,
they're multiple and shapeable. So what are you depositing in them?
And how are you shaping them? That's the question.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
And so when a person decides that I do want
to heal, no matter what that healing is, the more
that they practice that new awareness, I'm just asking, does
the brain begin to change and say oh she's open,
Oh she's healing, Oh here or she is setting? Is

(40:36):
that what happens?

Speaker 6 (40:37):
Yes, and then you're tested this is when so then yes,
it wants your brain your brain, And I would say
that field that's created that's drawing things to you and
that you're putting energy out into. It wants to see
if it's true. It wants to test those perceptions. It
wants to make evidence right. It wants to see it realized.
And so you'll have opportunities to put it to the test,

(41:00):
and that's really important, and knowing that, you know what,
if you don't pass the test, you'll get another one,
because so often we can feel like, oh I messed
up forever, I'll never get another opportunity. Maybe not that one,
but you will get another opportunity. And every time I
feel like God will serve up something on a platter
for you. Would you like this? Would you like that?
Will you Are you willing to try this? Are you

(41:21):
willing to try that? And so the trust helps me
be willing to try things. It helps me to be
something new and lo and behold those new things open
up a whole new beautiful experience for me, new relationships,
new opportunities, new money. Okay, just my willingness to trust

(41:43):
and say, okay, I'm gonna step out on faith, which
is something I can't see. I'm gonna try it based
on I feel a little bit stronger now. And then
what gets opened up to us and it's just like
leveling up from one level to the next to the next.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
It is a process and it's a journey.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
So you mentioned money, yes, okay, So does our brain
like when we use affirmations and we feel, you know,
I am abundant, there's unlimited there's unlimited prosperity awaiting me.
I'm one with money. What is our brain doing neurologically

(42:21):
when we say that until.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
That, well, it could be, like I said, doing different things.
One could be a part of you could be believing it,
another part can want to test it, another part can
completely reject it. Right, And so it really helps to
have evidence. So building a vision board, right, having people
who are like you, who they've.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Done it, why not me?

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Believing that God is not a respector of persons, and
just believing that they had it so I can have
it too. Having a coach, having someone work with us
to help us to retrain our thoughts, reframe our thoughts.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
It's essential. The whole point is I don't want to
do it alone.

Speaker 6 (42:58):
I don't want to do it as my own self
without any support, whether it's something.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
I put together creatively, whether.

Speaker 6 (43:04):
It's another person, a friend, even a therapist, a coach.
Somebody has to help me and like lock arms with
me and do this alongside with me. That's what's worked
for me, not doing it by myself, not being solely
independent trying to do these I would say, difficult things.
It can be difficult to completely change how I see

(43:24):
the world in.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
My prospection alone. So don't do it by yourself.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
That's that's my number one piece of advice, if I
was to give any don't do it alone.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I don't see how people do it alone. I always
tell people I got two coaches, yes that I see
once a month, Yes, and I might need to see
them twice a month on long months. And so you know,
a coach can see your blind spots. A coach can see.
And I know so many people who are even listening

(43:54):
to this. You're sitting at home behind your computer, isolated,
which God never created us to be alone and by ourselves,
and you're trying to be successful. And I'm not judging,
but you know where I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
I do absolutely He did not create us to be alone.
There is a loneliness epidemic happening globally. It's because of
these things, these machines that were on that give nothing
but take everything. Right, They take our energy and re
imagine it as something else, as when we get into
the discussion about AI things like that.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
You know, but.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
It's just it's extractive. And God made us to be generative, creative, collaborative.
And there was one point that's coming up for me
as I'm thinking about neuroscience something I learned about the brain.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
We are not alone. So when we pray.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
And meditate, God meets us there. If you were to
look at our brains under a brain scan, it's as
if we're in community with others.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
Yes, when you look at someone a brain scan of
someone in prayer or in meditation, it's like it shows
up as them being conversation with someone, which creates oxytocin,
which is our love hormone.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
It bonds us. So we are supposed to be in community.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
And if we can't, just pray for community and it'll
come that way and you'll see it in results that
come outward externally.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Eventually it will happen. It's just inevitable.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
And love is the highest vibration. So when and I'm
going to talk about physical touch and embody in the manner,
So when we are being loved when we hold our
little dog, when we hold our child, when we fall in,
when we choose to look, what does our brain do
does it?

Speaker 6 (45:45):
Is it like what happens lack actually gets hot, So
it's kind of like it creates our own internal cocktail
of good feeling neurochemicals, oxytocin being one of them that
helps to connect us to ourselves and to that person
we show up as the best versions of ourselves. There
is something about being compassionate and actively giving towards something

(46:09):
else we're receiving at the same time. Right, So just
love helps us to be open to receive, which is
very important when it comes to manifestation because if you
have a block of receiving, things could be coming to
you and you could literally be blocking it. So love,
your right, is so essential and important.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
I love that. So let's talk about physical touch and embodiment.
So the neuroscience of connection, which we just started, we
talked about briefly, so I know you share with me
that I challenge you to embrace people.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Yes, you did, which was so it was scary for
me because people to me.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
I feel like I was operating in a lot of
fear I didn't want to make a mistake.

Speaker 5 (46:56):
I didn't want to harm anyone.

Speaker 6 (46:57):
I guess it was coming from a positive place one,
but that was actually blocking me from giving what God
has given me to receive my love language.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
If you want to use that, it's physical touch. One
of them is physical touch. I love hugs, right, and
we're in my touch. There is power in the human touch.

Speaker 6 (47:15):
So when we touch one another, it does activate that
oxytocin and that love hormone that is healing because we
look like you said, love is the highest vibration. It
is healing in itself. And so you challenged me to
do that more with people who I felt were very
stone faced and cold.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
Then I was like, oh, I'm so scared, but you said,
you just put your hand on her shoulder. When I
remember that, and I've done that, I've made it a practice,
and it's really I feel like created helped me to
create such a beautiful connection and relationship with those people.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
In my life.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
And that is also I would say key to manifestation
is our relationships. Once again, operating as a self oriented,
operating person, that I was extremely independent.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
And independence is fhere based.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
It was completely. I was afraid. I was afraid to
trust all the things we've talked about today, I was
afraid to receive. I was afraid to literally touch people.
And that's one of my gifts. So it is just
moving out of that. You truly opened up those blind
spots for me, challenged me. I began to with small

(48:30):
practices that made a difference over time.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Boy, I forgot I did all of that.

Speaker 5 (48:37):
You did a lot.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Thank you, And so for anybody who's in a situation,
just forget to send love to people. People are really
doing the best they can. And you know, if you're
not speaking to somebody, send love there. You don't have
to connect with them, but you can connect and send
compassion there. And you said, when we're given that, we're

(49:03):
really given to ourselves. Right, Yes, that's.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
Something I didn't know either.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
That The true definition, the one that I operate on
when it comes to empathy, is also being empathetic to myself,
also towards myself. So doing things from that place where
I can be authentic and not performing and not showing
up acting and doing what I've been taught to be.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Right, But is it really right?

Speaker 6 (49:29):
Is that leading me like operating, just being very clear
and getting still to identify that clarity and then trusting
and moving where that clarity is sending me when it
comes to.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Yeah, that's good time by too quick. We got five minutes,
so you know, and let's talk about it's not about me.
I think you're walking that out. It's not our ego.
Expound on that for listeners and what happens neurologically when
we realize that it's it's not about us, it's serving,

(50:01):
its giving and sharing. What happened to our brain when you.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Shared that with me and coaching, that was a shock
to my system because I was operating in fear and
I was confused, like if it's not about if me
working so hard, it's not about providing for myself, ensuring
that I can survive, I can pay my bills, I
can have a little piece of a life, then what
is it about?

Speaker 5 (50:24):
And I had to walk that out.

Speaker 6 (50:26):
I had to trust and believe that that was true
and open myself up to serve, open myself up to
be a vessel. That takes a lot of courage because
I was operating so much fear. So once just you
doing that and modeling that for me was was very helpful.
It gave me up some confidence to do that in

(50:48):
ways for myself to have to build up the confidence
to offer myself up, which I did.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
So how I did.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
That was I was learning all of this knowledge and
information and I just begin to share it. I put
an email out to my friends and family and said, Hey, everybody,
I have this topic that I'm really passionate about.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
You like me to come speak to your team or
your organization.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
I would love to do that. And people took me
up on that. So it started with serving with serving.
I remember reaching out to my university where I got
my master's degree that you mentioned during the pandemic and saying, hey,
if you would like me to help the graduate students.
I was a graduate student there, I please allow me
to do that, and they say, yes, we actually need

(51:33):
someone to come in and talk about burnout.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
Can you do that? I said yes, and I gave that.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Talk for five years, with no expectation of money or compensation,
just to help the graduate students, help them to understand
what burnout was in ways to avoid it. So yes,
it wasn't about me, It was about service, but understanding
that actually, if I'm operating in service. It always comes

(51:58):
back to me.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
So I'm taken.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
I am fulfilled. That literally launched my speaking career. I've
spoken hundreds of times since then that had been paid. Okay,
so it's like, even that's what is. It can be
confusing when you're a very analytical, linear thinker, as I
was right, I was very operating on that type of mode,
so distrusting going with it, having someone model it for me,

(52:23):
then trying it for myself in my own way, fighting way.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Okay, how can I serve?

Speaker 6 (52:27):
That really would feel like a gift, and like I'm
more few giving from my overflow. I think that was
something you taught me to to give from my overflow.
It didn't feel like it was taking from me. It
just was yeah, anyway, And so I started there and
then look at.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
You now, thank you. You know the end and real quick,
the thing God taught me was h I said, well, God,
I'm just pro bono. He said, you don't ever plan
to seed without getting the harvest constants. Nothing is pro bono.
You may plant over here, but if you plan a seed,

(53:05):
it's got to come back. I was telling somebody, I
don't know how I know, I don't know how many
millions I've reached, But every day I for good. I
just thank you. I'm open to receive the harvest from
folk that I don't even know about, et cetera. And
so with you those five years where you were doing
that burnout thing and we're not getting paid, you were

(53:28):
planning a seed of generosity, planning a seed of giving.
And somebody said, when you give to others, you're really
given to yourself.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
That's it. That's and the best way. We planted seeds
of oak.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
Trees will never sit under the shade of them, but
others will. Others will, and that's a beautiful thing. That's
a legacy.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Wow, you are so smart, so art I am, but
I'm talking about you now and so articulate, and God
has given you the gift to really I see how
excited you get. I love it. I see how hey,
you were that excited when you was at project manager

(54:11):
in corporate America. And it's like you're passionate, you're free,
You're in the flow of the spirit. And I love it.
So tell listeners how they can reach you for speaking,
for coaching, etc.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Thank you, Thank you for this opportunity.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
You're welcome, grateful, I can.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
Be reached at Kishan Hughes dot com, so that's the
easiest way to reach me. I'm also at Keishaan Hughes
on Instagram and my company is neuro Savvy, so you
can follow me at be neuro Savvy, and I love
being on LinkedIn. I love having conversations there. That's where
I do most of my posting and connection. So find

(54:55):
me on LinkedIn at Kishan Hughes or neuro Savvy.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
So happy for are you? So proud of you. I
cannot wait to read your book to give.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
You a fine copy.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
If you need me to do the forward, I was
certain to be happy to do that for you.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
Absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
You're welcome. So everybody go to her website. You see
she knows what she's talking about. I trust her, uh
and I just love the neuroscientists behind it. She's spiritual,
she's metaphysical, physical, but she's analytical and the merging of
all of that coming together for you as a client

(55:44):
would be remarkable. Also, speaking, you see her passion and
I'm sure she would really design just a customized speaking
presentation that a lines with your company's vision, and boy
do we need you during times like these. Yeah, so

(56:07):
everybody go to her website. Kishan, I am so grateful
and thankful you have blessed us today and I'm so
grateful for the opportunity to be connected with you.

Speaker 5 (56:19):
So I'm excited for what's to come.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Thank you, I am to everybody. As I say every week,
remember you are the creator, editor, scriptwriter, producer of your
own day, of your own moments. Create a great week.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Thank you for listening to think, believe, and manifest. Constance
Arnold will be back next week with another great show
just for you. For more information, please visit Fulfilling youourpurpose
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