February 22, 2025 • 52 mins
- Pa'Ris'Ha and her international panel of Co-hosts review chapters 1 and 2 of Dr. Johanna Blomqvist's "From Quantum Physics to Energy Healing: A Physicians' Journey to Mind and Healing."
- What does Quantum Physics have to do with Energy Healing? Thought, healing and Quantum Physics seem to interrelate. How does "Hands On" healing affect energy and relate to our understanding of Quantum?
- Join Pa'Ris'Ha and Co-hosts Tryna Cooper, Denver CO; Marianne Love, Melbourne AUS; Geraldene Dalby-Ball, Sydney AUS, Gabrielle Thompson, Mt. Beauty, AUS; and Evelyn Yllada, Miami FL, as they explore "From Quantum Physics to Energy Healing: A Physicians' Journey to Mind and Healing," by Johanna Blomqvist, PhD on Quantum Leap Book Club.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Here's Parisha Greetings, this is quantum Ly Book Club. I'm
your host, Parisha. My co host this week with me
will be Treta Cooper of Denver, Colorado, Gabrielle Thompson of
Mount Beauty, Australia. We have l Away of Sydney, Australia,
and we have Mary Anne Love who is with us
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from Melbourne, Australia as we begin, and Evelyn is somewhere
in Florida and thereabouts. And we'll see how many actually
can get into the forum today. Anyway, we're discussing the
book that's very exciting and I've heard a lot of
good things about some things this lady's doing from very
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wonderful friends in Amsterdam. So doctor Johanna plum Vest is
from quantum physics to energy healing, and she is a
physicist and a researcher and has done really wonderful things
in helping others learn how to use their energy to
work with other people. Energy healers are individual and unique
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to themselves. I get a lot of response back that
was saying, you know, as soon as you mention energy healers,
you have everybody and their brother that comes out and
says that they're actually working with energy healing. I think
anyone today studying any self development or sense of wanting
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to have greater consciousness would have to say that that
we're all working with energy healing. So I appreciate each
one of you, and please don't ask me to come
into a position of where I would choose one method
over another for you and say that that would be
the one. I think that they all have something to offer,
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and I think that you have to look through a
lot of them to actually find the one thing that
maybe keys you to find your individual pathway into it.
I do not believe, and never have in my eighty
something years, that everyone can heal in the same way.
Each one of us are as unique as a snowflake,
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and therefore there is nothing in common and what we
are and do in many ways, and I think healing
has to be one of those uncommon areas, because then
you have to put yourself into a place that is
uniquely yours and allows your personal power to come forth
and be an assistant. So I'm hoping that all you
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do follow us along the way as we cover what
we can get out of this book. And for those
of you who have been very critical of reiki, I
have no defense, nor do I feel I need to
defend reiki. I think that reiki has proven a great
method for many people, and the success speaks for itself.
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So if you're not a reiki fan, I apologize for that,
But then can you just put that aside and listen
to this woman's personal experience and actually her pathway into
the many other ways look of looking at it. I
feel that, especially in the chapter that we're going to
cover today, she's actually more supportive in Beingstem's particular research
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because that got her started. So, like I said, I
don't feel that the book is really geared to actually
sell everybody on Reiki is the one and only I
don't believe that. Of course, we haven't gotten to the
back of the book, so that's just a statement from
the first few chapters, okay, but we're going to cover that,
and as you want, please add yours anything you want
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to come on the line, definitely pick up on our
Facebook and share what you feel and actually share what
you're doing if you want, okay, and that would make
us very very happy. I'm sure all my co hosts
agree with that. So we're going to start today and
we're going to just kind of let the co host
run in through their particular I would say, reactions to
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what they've seen and read about this woman, as well
as where we're going with it.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
We have been.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Most of us have been very much involved with energy
healing the greater part of our life. Okay, So we
do have our own particular set feelings what we're going
to be discussing, and we will be sharing with that
as we go along. So I'm going to let you
start today tree now with chapter one and give us
a particular In fact, each of the co hosts will
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actually be discussing chapters one and two just to give
you an idea of what the book, the beginning of
the books about and what her story, what Johanna's story
particularly is Okay, Tree, don't you want to give us
what you have from that?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So chapter one in the book is about energy healing,
and she just gives a background about energy healing. And
what I found fascinating about in chapter one is that
there's been hands on energy healing in so many different traditions,
so many different ways, cultures, religions, even the royalty. The
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royalty were known as energy healers and people would line
up to get healings from them. And so she really
gives us a nice background, kind of sets the stage
for us in how it's been worked, and also makes
the point too, which is basically what you've been saying Grammar.
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There's so many different types of healing, whether it be
quantum touch or therapeutic touch, or chronic healing, distance healing.
She go on all kinds of different types. Then chapter
two moves into Bankston's research, and that's where she moved
out of the field of physics quantum physics. But she
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heard so much about people healing here and heard about
energy healing and was introduced to Bankston's work and he
was doing a lot of research on the energy healing
and some of his work involved injecting mice with mammalarian
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cancer and this cancer would kill the mice within fourteen
to twenty seven days. But he had a control group.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And he had another.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And he had people that were doing the hands on
work with the mice as well. And in the book
he actually talks about treated groups and control groups and
how he works all his experiments, and there was definitely
showed that the mice that had some hands on energy work,
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some kind of healing work in these modalities actually survived
and actually lived and the cancers disappeared. So there's quite
a bit in this and I'll let the other co
hosts talk a little bit too, But that's where she
started was with Bankston's work.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
She was a.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Scientist and he's a scientist, and she really jumped into
looking at that scientific approach to energy healing just from
the very start.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think that everyone and at whatever level self discovery
that we come to, there's something that starts moving inside
of us. There's a feeling that we have there's an
anticipation one might want to call it or something, but
we know that we're moving and looking for something. And
I feel how in reading everything about her and reading
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the beginning of this book, I feel that at this
time in her life she had come to see things,
maybe through her own work, okay, because she was definitely
working with plastics and seeing what she could explore and
find it. Then something actually stimulated her to want to
look further at something. And I feel that we all
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do that as we come to wanting to know who
we are, the why, and everything about ourselves we finally
walk into It's like would they people say, well, when
the student is ready, the teacher appears. I believe that
that very much is so here with Johanna's story, and
by the time she actually gets to that what she's
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looking at, what Bingston is doing, it just started her
to wanting to see more answers and hear more things
going on. So that compelled her and one of the
things that I saw read on her, she felt compelled
that she had to see what else was behind all this.
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So I think that we all go through that need,
and that's where I feel she actually goes through all
of these, like you say, train all these different particulars
on energy healing, and God knows there's a huge market
out there of it, right, So we'll go on and
let Marianne Love, who is a therapist in Melburn. Marian
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what did you get out of these two? Was there
anything you could identify with there?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yes, my Mann, Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I really enjoyed her openness to just learning and being
on the journey. Like I can say, she's come from
a hard science like she's come from the physics kind
of background, and I can totally identify with that calling
to know more. But I like that in her ability
to research and her interest in research, she hasn't closed
out any particular philosophy. She's looked at Jesus was a
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hands on healer, she's looked into the Eastern philosophies, the
Western philosophies, and she's been able to well describe, you know,
how this has actually been around for as long as
we have, you know, as long as humans have really
and that she embuked on her own journey and finding
out through her own experience what the reality of all
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of that was. And she's to me not saying that
there's any one particular way to do it. She's saying,
this is how she's doing it, and this is how
she learned and through her own intuition and experience developed
what works for her and what she feels works for
her clients. But I don't find it prescriptive. I find
it in to explore.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yes, very much.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So how much do you feel as a therapist to
yourself and seeing clients, do you use any of the
particular mental practices of holding a particular field focus for
yourself while you're working with them?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Have you explored any of that yet?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
I know that when I'm with clients, I hold an
image for them, like I often hold for them what
they're saying they want to get out of it, their
ideal self foremost. And I can see even in what
she's talking about, like in Benningston's research, that through holding
a higher vibration than the client themselves, just through doing that,
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we are imparting for them something that's helpful. And so
I certainly do consider that its so important as a
therapist to be happy within myself, to be a higher
vibration so that I can help others. But in terms
of like actively doing this energy work, not so consciously
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as what she's describing here.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, but I'm hoping maybe you get a lot out
of this then you know, work your time for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Okay. I like what there's some she said.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And this is kind of jumping ahead in the book
to chapter two, but it's actually a quote from Tesla
that I have written many times in my journal and
stuff because I use it sometimes to put myself get
my feet back on the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay, And I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Read that the day science begins to study non physical phenomena,
it will make progress in one decade, then in all
the previous centuries of its existence. If you want to
find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy,
frequency and vibration Nicola Tesla, eighteen fifty six to nineteen
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forty three. And so basically, anyone who's ever left a
footprint on this Earth in their life with something they've done,
has actually done it through the discovery or something that
opened the door to a wider seeking and understanding of
what energy is. And I love how she makes her
point in chapter one in two that it's the body
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that heals, Okay, that what the energy is actually helping
give the body more of its own resource. More so
than the foreign things we may put into it. So
I like how she definitely come right off the top
with saying the body is self healing, and it is,
and some healers forget about that, they actually begin to
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take credit for that. The most we can ever hope
for is that we can be of great enough assistance
that the body can take the charge and move to
healing of itself.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Okay, let's go on.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So we're gonna go ahead. We'll bring in Gabby. Gabby,
you want to share with us what you got out
of a couple of chapter.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
I thought it was really great of her, coming from
a scientific background, that she gave science examples where she
told us that, like even fifteen thousand years ago, there
were cave paintings about that sort of healing. Then she
went too well known medicals like Hippocrates, the father of
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all medicine, who said that he felt a flow of.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Energy from his hands when with patients.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
And I mean that is really profound because they were scientists,
and you know, they felt the energy healing as well,
so it was really helpful.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
She also, you know, I found that while she started.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Off with reiki, that was her first path, her first
sort of toe dip into energy healing.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
She made sure to mention all.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
The other energy healing methods that are out there, and
with that she really says, it's all there. There's no
one and only there's no like you said, grandmother, there's
no one particular the way. And later in the book
she gets even more into that. And also I found
it interesting that she said, you know, in one of
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her mottos that she lives her life with the understanding
that the soul is eternal and the body my home
in this life is only temporary. That's a big step
from someone who comes from a science background.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Quantum leap, quantum leap, you know.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
But I like how she puts the two together for
people to play with and saying it doesn't have to
be one or the other. How can we combine them,
make them complimentary. Maybe sees them as alternative ways of
doing and being. And with the Beanston method, when he
talked about she talked about his way of approaching healing,
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what stood out for me is the point that the
healer needs to get the ego in the mind out
of the way while allowing the energy to channel through.
So the Banks And method really says you keep your
mind busy with something so you don't think about what
you're doing, so you're allowing the flow. And I found
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that was the most profound part. And one quote she
put into the chapter is by LOOTI in the Tower Titching.
It says, those who cultivate the doo and now is
the chie the energy are able to channel chi for
others full stop.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
So that's powerful, very powerful.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yes, it is very powerful. It is the key. It
definitely is the key.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And so basically with everything that she's given us in
this Okay, well, but I want to take care of
something because I'm getting a few signals over here that
there's been some people upset. Neither myself nor my code
hosts are endorsing mice as victims of research. Okay, this
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is not something that I am giving. In fact, we
have not been asked for our approval. Okay, we're simply
sharing with you a book, and this particular author sharing
with you the results of someone who has used mice.
I find mice beautiful little people and they have five
precious little fingers, and I don't wish them any harm,
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let alone make them guinea pigs. So please, let's not
bring that back to us and think that we're endorsing
that with this research, Okay, saying that, then moving on
and saying, like the very presence of energy, it begins
that where we're at in the world today and we're
all studying the greater extent of that, okay, is that
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everything is energy. Nothing can exist in the third dimension
that is not energy. If it materially or physically as
a presence and is a thing, Okay, then it is energy.
And what we are learning and what the news sciences
the show notess is that everything around us is actually emanating.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
At one point, what Johanna shares is how Benson is
actually using drums and creating a beat. I think that
the point you've made, Gabby that when you're in the
process of healing, you have to be able to move
past everything else and enter into that zone, get into
that space of yourself. And the ways you do that,
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I think reiki is a good way that shows how
to do that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
There are many.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Ways, okay, but actually you acquiring and understanding what of
it works for you is the necessity of the battle.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Once you get centered, you're going to move your energy.
Once you can stay in the moment, in the now,
and that's exactly what she's promoting here. You have to
be you, the healer has to be in the now,
not somewhere else and not around about anything, not in
the field, but now right here. And once you have
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two or more, then you have the presence of everything
that needs to be magnetically working together and then that's
where healing happens. And at that point I would hope
that all of our healers listening and those seeking healing
as well as interested in starting healing would actually make.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That a note and key that what you move forward with.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay, moving on that, is there anything in chapters one
and two that you guys would like to continue to
share with the people. Definitely am hoping they all get
the book because the practices are something you'd want to
have your own library.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
This is Marianne from Melvin, Australia. I was really curious
about when.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
You apply the Benston's method in the research in the
control group of mice, the ones that he just simply visited,
He didn't actually apply the method to, He just went
and checked in on.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
They also received the healing. And he was curious about that,
and I think it was that simply within his presence
because he had done this particular healing method, they also
gained the benefit of the method even though it wasn't
actively applied to them. So I thought that was really curious.
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He had to do more to create a control group
where he didn't visit the mice at all in order
to see if there was any benefit from the method.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
That he used.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
So I thought that was really interesting and also.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm sorry, well I felt that, but I felt what
he actually made the point though, especially in his own research,
is that his presence was something that the mice reacted to,
and that it was his being there him personally and
of course in what you would consider as the support
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team or the particular people working with him. That I
think that when they found that the particular team lost
the mice that was actually in their care, it did
it they lacked, They lacked the personalization that obviously he
could give it, and the when actually looking into Johanna's
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particular new presence in my life, I actually have had
people come to me indirectly through his work.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
He healed thousands and thousands of people.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And his whole modality to that is that he cared
and that each one of them more special to him
that bringing someone from the grips of death into life
again and to help them he knew that. He feels
it actually gives them a new birthing and brings them
into a greater consciousness for the rest of their life.
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I would say, amen, one hundred percent on that.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So anything else that anybody wants to remark on from
the a couple of chapters, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
This is Trina again in Denver, and I just wanted
to say that. Toward the end of chapter two, she
actually says she was surprised that Benston's studies and research
never made it into the media, and that she sees
it as a complementary type of healing modality and that
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there had been cancer cures, there had been a lot
of successes, yet none of this was ever reported. And
even though these healing methods have been studied, it doesn't
seem that it seems like it's very slow that they're
coming out into the media and being accepted by the
general public. But this is coming from a scientist looking
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at other scientists work and finding surprise.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That this wasn't being reported on Well, I'm surprised that
she was surprised because there are thousands, if not millions
of them, and Trina, you and I have shared some
of that in our work in our life together. When
you and Larry were doing one of your programs and
you had people bringing their inventions forward on energy saving
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and everything else, nobody heard about them. They never got
any publicity, It never got out there. You know what
I'm saying, There's the communication skills amongst human beings actually
is what we need to get better at so that
we can build stronger community because it is true communication
that you do that. And I feel that this man's
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work was something that he loved. He never was seeking
popularity or approval. He was actually going on his own
high with this, and therefore little or no one took
mention or took pick up. It's usually someone else that
picks up the torch and starts singing the song for somebody.
He just didn't have that. But it doesn't stop the
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fact that the record show how very very deep into
what he did he did do and I appreciate it,
but I feel that I run into I would have
to say, in eighty something years, I've probably touched millions
of people who I believe should have actually had somebody's
ear along the way giving them more information on what's
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out there and what we can do. I know that
I sit every week, twice a week in a forum
with some of the top people in research and science,
and they don't want they don't want it to go
any further than that. They amongst themselves, work off of
each other's put and everything and move and whenever they
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come to a decision on something, they kind of slip
it aside on the like write it out on the napkin,
and pass it all forward that maybe somebody else will
take it and make sure other people hear about it.
And it's because of just the fact that you have
to then start dealing with the positive and the negative
of people.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
That are going to not like it, or someone trying
to stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And today, definitely we all know that Big Pharma is
not going to let too much get past it. As
far as natural healing, and what is this? This is
natural healing. Okay, So that doesn't surprise me that he
isn't well known, But neither does it say much that
she would expect for all she found about him that
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most people should know want so I think that's why
she's promoting it in her book, and hopefully it gets
out a little further in her book. Okay, anyone else
ready to share some more on chapters one and two?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Hi, sus Gabriel.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Yeah, I looked into the Bankston method and I actually
started using it, Like, I'm not really fast at it yet,
but I started using the cycling of the positive images,
and it is incredible. I have like ten images I
cycle and I'm only practicing, but.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
My vibration gets so high, my.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Emotion is so beautiful and positive doing it. It is incredible.
So I just wanted to share that I'm playing with that. Yes,
and definitely it's something that anybody there. I guess there's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I haven't checked it, but I'm assuming there's a lot
on the internet of his method that you can actually
check into. Right, Have any of you checked that out
and actually get well worsed in that? But his imaging, definitely,
his imaging process was what he contributes. A lot of
his success is holding the bomb into staying in the
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now with just making sure that you're inside those different
images and the whole thing is not to wander. We
all know how fast the body takes over and the
mind drifts.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And any way that you can hold that feeling and
hold yourself in that now, in the now, then you're
very well going to go with success, Okay, anyone else this.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Is Mary, Yeah, I find it interesting his technique. It's
all about accelerating, whereas when other techniques they so talk
more about let's just relax and get into a in
our let's al you know, calm down, and he's more boo,
let's all pump up actually, and pumping up actually makes
more sense really to.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Me for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
When you said that, it brings and I have to
share this because there's so much humor in it. At
least it was humorous after the fact. When my grand
when my daughter in law was giveing birth to my grandson,
we were actually having the birth in the house, okay,
and we had a midwife and she had an assistant
with her okay, and my daughter in law had chose
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to actually have a water berth, so there was this
big thing of water that was brought in and she
was in the water. And of course, if anyone who's
had a baby, you realize in the transition period, everything's
all beautiful nice and can be spiritually, metaphysically mythical, okay,
until the transition starts, okay. And then when transition starts,
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all of a sudden, everything gets very physical and definitely
a whole different scenario. And so the doulah and the
midwife had been saying, you know what they would keep
saying to her, Well, she was saying, okay, I feel something,
you know, getting more tense here. And then they.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Would they would keep saying her.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Open, just you know, just relax and breathing open, okay,
And they would say the word open very slow and
go with it. And I'm walking around pacing okay, because
i have been involved in many berths, and I'm realizing
she's in transition, and right now, her hearing you say
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just relax and be open, you could throw that to
the wind, you know. And then finally she and I'm
there okay. And the reason I couldn't deliver this child
is because it's against the law, okay, And since we
were in the city, I could not be the one
actually doing the midwife.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
We had to have somebody that was licensed, okay. So
this is how that happened.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But at one point I finally just had to get
very rude, and I said to the doula, just please stop.
And I looked at my grand my daughter in law,
and I said, okay, let's work. I just got over
to the side of the pool that she was in,
took her by the hand, and I said, you're going
to push. And she just looked at me and started
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crying and laughing at the same time. And she says,
thank God. And after she pushed, maybe several times we
had this beautiful, beautiful child in our hands. But sometimes
the acceleration, the moving fast, even some of the things
were studying in some of the other books from Guswami. Okay,
one of the techniques and energy that many spiritual people
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use in many schools or spirituality use is taking your
body and just shaking it. I mean just rattling the
body up, just intensifying the energy and speeding everything up
to actually have the breakthrough.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So I saw that and it's like that. Definitely recalled it.
It's calm and being quiet and open just doesn't get
it at some points of the healing. Okay, you have
to accelerate. Okay, good point. Marianne and anybody else have
some things you'd like to share about chapter one and two.
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We're going to move very rapid through the book because
the chapters aren't very involved, and so we don't plan
on being in this book more than three four weeks.
So definitely we're trying to give you a good easy
start with the chapters one and two, but we will
be accelerating that moving and giving you the high points.
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So we're giving at least another week to get the
book in hand so you can follow along with us.
So anyone has some other points that you would like
to discuss, and it was the visioning of seeing the pictures.
She's calling cycling the images. Keeps your mind on the
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particular moment of what you're doing in the in space
time at that time.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Works well.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
When you get your book, you'll want to go to
pages twenty seven and twenty eight because they give a
very thorough charting of actually what at this point of
some of the experience experiments that they were doing with
the mace, and how definitely the results were showing that
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beings that actually as Marianne had brought up his presence,
his obvious work as a healer and his love of
healing and bring in life definitely had to show some
effects here without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
This is Marianna. I'm not sure if I've got the
understanding correct here, but it sounds to me like with
his method, you cycle through the imagery. You don't necessarily
focus on healing something in particular. You focus through the
end and the imagery and raise your vibration in the
context of the of the being that you're I guess
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healing or assisting in their own what he's healing. But
you're not saying I heal mice.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
This is I got that understanding correct.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's not saying I heal mice. Actually the modality of
the energy. What's happening with the energy? Okay, what the
energy is doing?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yes, and that to me and I have not used
his methods, So I please want everybody to know. I'm
not saying here that I'm the expert on his methods,
but I know and what I've learned to do, and
how I see what he's I think I see what
he's talking about is you want to be totally emerged
in the thought that the energy is working and what
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you wanted to do, so that you're seeing the image
of that that you're actually holding the imagery along with
whatever your feelings might be. Some healers say that they
need to feel the heat. They have to feel the
temperature because they know things go from hot to cold
in different areas on the body. And what he is
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you have to see with your hands exactly what the
energy is it's doing and the whole. You have these
particular frames, meaning these particular scenes, and that you're holding
to them. That's them, that transmission of that image. It's
helping you actually find location and have effect. Gabby, you
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said you've actually read some of it stuff. Does this
sound familiar to.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
You when I read up about it?
Speaker 7 (34:30):
What he suggests is that you find about ten or
twelve items in your own life that you desire, and
you create an image of what you desire, and you
get faster and faster by cycling them through your mind,
and that helps you focus in the moment, gets your
emotional awareness up and your vibration up, and you hold
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that during the healing process, so you get your ego
out of the way, so you're almost totally thinking about
something else, but with high emotional awareness, and you know,
cyping through those images of things you want. And on
his website he has a little line. He says, Well,
then in the process some of them may even manifest,
so that's a good thing too.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
So that is how I understood it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
They're all personal images to him.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
It's correct, That's how I understand it.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Okay, all right, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong
with that is not the way that I do, and
I would definitely check into that. It seems that we've
pretty much covered the two chapters. So if there's anything
in your personal experiences with energy healing that you'd like
to share in the next ten to fifteen minutes, we
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have and we're we're definitely open to do that.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
This is Trina in Denver, and I, I like Joanna,
kind of went on a path of becoming interested in it,
looking at different types of healing methods, and she actually
has said she's found over time, with so many different
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methods and people trying different things, they find what works
with them, they find what resonates with them, and they
create their own type of practice. Where I started with
some healing techniques, I went and studied reiki and became
a reiki master, moved into using more sound with the
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work that I was doing, and started to find kind
of my own way, the way that it felt good,
and always staying open. I think that's one of the
biggest things that she's talked about, and I agree with that,
is being open because we're working with we're working with energy,
and if we stay open, it actually you actually draw
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to you more different methods, different ways of looking at things, experiences,
and they all it's getting in touch with this, it's
getting in touch with the feeling of it and getting
in touch with the feeling of the energy that's there too.
That really makes the hands on the energy feelings really
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powerful and it's both for the healer and for the healing.
And that's one of the things she brings out is that.
And I know so many people who have gone kind
of the way that she did, where they tried one
and they tried reiki, then they tried something else and
kind of came to the one that they resonated with
or developed their own. But one of the things I
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found fascinating with this work is that, as has been
said before, is that there is this drive to understand more,
There's this drive to move forward with things. There's a
drive to help people. There's really a drive inside to
make people better, and so I know for me it
evolved over time and it's gone from being hands on
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two now working with devices and looking at science and things.
And the more I look at it and the more
I study it, the more comes to the surface, especially
as far as studies and experiments and papers that people
have written and things that have been used over time.
So yeah, it's definitely. I believe it's the way of
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the future. I believe it's the natural way that we've
all been blessed with to work with allowing our bodies
to heal, and the more that comes forward, the more
of a blessing it is for everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I'd have to say, I totally support that. But when
you say, and I understand when get the many that
have come forward that are anti reiki or anti this
or anti that. Okay, when I think that the the
problem becomes there when we say something like you said,
reiki master, Okay, you've mastered the workings and technique of
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somebody else. I don't believe that works, and I don't
believe you can heal with that. I believe the most
that you can do, and what I've learned in my
eighty years is no matter what you the person who
starts something can say and do it is yours.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Other people can actually explore and work with that until
they find the key that is theirs. So when people
try to say, okay, I do this, and this is
doctor so and so's this or this is that or whatever,
see I look at that, and there's almost a sadness
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because you have forgotten. You can't copy, and you can't
do somebody else. You have to do you, for sure.
The one thing in this world that remains the same is.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You have to do you.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
And all you can do in someone else's particular techniques
or systems or styles or whatever is look at that
and see what it transmits or excites in you or
brings out in you. And some may and some may not.
So those who are anti reki, I feel at that
point are actually saying it did nothing for them because
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it really wasn't what they were looking for or in
whatever the techniques are, which are whatever they are, it didn't.
It didn't happen, The turn on didn't happen. And so
then my question to you, Trina would be what what
what what makes you a reiki master? What does being
a master of reiki mean? And like, are you saying
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that there's a uniformity now that everybody that goes and
does this level and acquires this that now those are
the masters.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
They actually it's part of the class levels that you
go through because there's certain levels that you practice and
then when you get to the when you get to
the end, that's what I guess the title that they
give you or whatever, but I know I moved beyond that,
and it's something that a lot of people are very
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familiar with now. But I've also done a lot of
other things. I did a whole soul body fusion training
and became a soul body fusion therapist or something like that.
So it's that's the name that and some people resonate
with it and some people don't. But it's actually going
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through and studying all the levels and practicing all the
levels and getting to a place where they actually say, okay,
you know it well enough, you can teach it now.
But that wasn't a path that I stayed on. So yeah,
that's actually like the third level of the of the teachings,
is you.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So for one to say they're a master, then they
have learned and know all the techniques, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Basically, yes, and they've they've done the practices to get
to that level.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Okay. Sounds reasonable, sounds very reasonable. Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Anyone else got anything else you would like to share
in your own experience of working with energy, I would
just keep coming back to you, Mary, and I would
just think as a therapist, a psychotherapist and all of
the emotional charge situations that brings people to your office.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
That definitely energy and finding your own way of handling
energy because you know by this time in your career
that the books in the school that you learned how
to be a therapist has done nothing to help you
know exactly how to help your patients. And that's basically
what I was getting at with my question here with Trina.
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We have systems that claim and doctors, I mean, the
new doctor's coming out today just make get me so excited, okay,
because they actually are speaking up and saying, after all
this time and money that I've put into this, I
really feel inadequate. I really don't feel that I've been
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given anything that will make me really preserve life and
take care of it because this system isn't up to
speed yet. There are so much things. There's so many
things that need to be looked at. And I encourage
them when they say that as a child, don't buy
into the system. Then you know all you all you
need to do is do whatever they expect you to
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do to get your license. And then by all means,
follow your heart. If you know that there is something
you're not doing that needs to be done, then you
have to find a way to work with that, explore that,
and make it work for you. And I feel that
that basically is what psychology is, Okay, I feel in
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today's world there I would say at least ninety percent
of the world's population is depressed, meaning they are emotionally
not happy and they don't know why and they're missing something.
And I would say the ten percent that are happy
are people who we call savages on educated people that
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live in the wilderness. Okay, they are if they're anywhere
affected by media and news and what else is going
on in the world, they have a problem. And so
when they end up in your office, you have to
have your own separate, individual channel of how you can
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get into their space and be where they're at talking
to them from where they're at. Have you explored any
particulars with that. All right, listen, if I'm putting you
on the spot here and asking you to reveal anything
that might get you in trouble with your licensing, don't.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Even Okay, just say we're not going to respond to that.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
But if there is something about you you can share,
because I know you're very well studied in what I
call the new spiritual sciences.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
And I think that is an aspect and big element
of what I've done is I got my license, and
then I went to explore what really woke up my
heart and made me feel passionate about life and enjoying life.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
And a lot of.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
It is really hard to put words to, so I'm
not being consciously evasive. It's just sometimes it's very hard
to describe what you do with people because it feels
like some of it is beyond the word. And I
think just learning with you, going on vision Quest, being
a sun dancer, learning quantum physics, all these things expand
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my own, I guess presence, and that's my intention, is
to expand my presence so that in that presence, my
hope and my love for the clients is that they
also get what they need individually and personally, and to me,
some of that is beyond words. Don't I don't sit
there and talk about these things directly with clients. I
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wouldn't talk about energy work with clients. I just I
don't feel that that's appropriate within psychology. But it's also
not a lot of clients' interests. They are interests though,
in healing and whatever way that works. So I use
em DR therapy. I find a helpful bridge between some
of these sort of more left of field healing methods.
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I find em D helps them tune into their own
It's sort of like what I see as their own observer,
their own beautiful wisdom helps theirselves heal. They get to
observe their feelings and release some of them. So I
think I use different methods, but not so consciously raiki
or any anything described in these books. Quantum physic Understanding
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Quantum physics has helped me a lot, though.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
How about hypnosis? Have you decided or see any value
of hypnosis in your work?
Speaker 6 (47:13):
Yeah? I haven't actively studied it, which is next on
my list, but I find in EMDR therapy there's definitely
an element of programming in and.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Doing hypnosis with clients.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
So after the release of negative feelings and negative beliefs,
and there's an element of programming in so. And the
more I study with you, grandmother, and the more I
study quantum physics and things, I really see the value
of hypnosis and reimaging life. Yeah, I've I almost wish
i'd studied that right in the beginning of my career.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
More consciously, you did do that for some for a
while there.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Okay. What is it the rapid eye mo technique.
Speaker 6 (47:55):
That you Yeah, I'm using that a lot.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, that's hypnosis, Marian, that's the level of hypnosis.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
And on the other side of everything else that you're doing,
you know, like what Gabby has shared with us on
what Benson's doing with focusing, it makes sense to me
that if I can image and hold my focus on
images that make me feel powerful, that make me feel good,
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that make me feel energized. Okay, it definitely is charging
my field. It's putting a charge in my field. So
the electromagnetics in my field are working stronger. I realize
that can be transferred and that can be shared in
an openness and everything but hypnosis to me and seeing
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how it's used Okay, is that so many times when
people decide they're going to go to a therapist. Don't
ask me, but when they first go to a therapist,
most people lie. The therapist has to have two or
three sessions before they really can see the truth behind
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what the patient's telling them. So to really get to
know your patients, you hear their upfront story while you're
looking in their back door, okay, and by that you
see all these little things that give you signals and
things like that. With hypnosis, you can byStep that and
you can actually get right to the heart of what
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it is that they're trying to hide or what they're
not comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
So that's going to justify that.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
They can't tell you what it really is, or in
some instances that it's just too painful for them to
know how to put it in.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
The words I mean.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
So for me, hypnosis helps you get to the truth
or get to the clear situation and work with it.
So I would hope, yeah, that you do pursue that.
I'm happy to hear you're going to pursue that. But
I think in Benston's situation and rethinking what you've shared
with us, gaviy On his technique.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
I could.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I can see and I realize, not knowingly, I've done
some of that inasmuch as I'm when I'm with a
patient and I hear the redundancy of their excuse and
their victimization. Okay, I realize I can't stay in that
because my natural instinct is to pull the scabs off
of those stories, okay, and just.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Get to the get to the wound, okay.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
And so in order to have be the more gentle
approach on it I do, I take myself into inside stories.
And usually their stories are sitting in circle with my
elders and drum and singing grandmother's.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Sharings and stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
So there are these heartwarming situations that come in that
help you fill fill that time or that place where something,
something greater is needed or has to happened. So it
moves on very well, I think for not having much rehearsal, ladies,
and actually having the time bomb dropped in on us
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and saying, okay, we're covering chapter one and two today
after a couple of weeks of all kinds of conflict
that's gotten in the way of our usual Wednesday program.
You've done a fantastic job of giving us at least
a coverage on these two chapters. Okay, And I'd like
to say to our audience, I hope we've given you
some insights and kept your interests up enough that you
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stayed with us this long, okay, And we will be
back next week, and we will be covering at least
three to five chapters or more by next week, and
looking to whatever you can find on the internet on
doctor Benson stuff and actually have some of your own
and by all means, beloved's get the book, have your
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own library of your progress and a path to enlightenment
of which we definitely invite you to each week. Unquantumly Okay,
this is Parisha, your host, and I'll say goodbye for
this week, and we do look forward to seeing.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
You next week. Be well, be healthy, be happy.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
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Here's Parisha Greetings, this is quantum Ly Book Club. I'm
your host, Parisha. My co host this week with me
will be Treta Cooper of Denver, Colorado, Gabrielle Thompson of
Mount Beauty, Australia. We have l Away of Sydney, Australia,
and we have Mary Anne Love who is with us
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from Melbourne, Australia as we begin, and Evelyn is somewhere
in Florida and thereabouts. And we'll see how many actually
can get into the forum today. Anyway, we're discussing the
book that's very exciting and I've heard a lot of
good things about some things this lady's doing from very
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wonderful friends in Amsterdam. So doctor Johanna plum Vest is
from quantum physics to energy healing, and she is a
physicist and a researcher and has done really wonderful things
in helping others learn how to use their energy to
work with other people. Energy healers are individual and unique
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to themselves. I get a lot of response back that
was saying, you know, as soon as you mention energy healers,
you have everybody and their brother that comes out and
says that they're actually working with energy healing. I think
anyone today studying any self development or sense of wanting
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to have greater consciousness would have to say that that
we're all working with energy healing. So I appreciate each
one of you, and please don't ask me to come
into a position of where I would choose one method
over another for you and say that that would be
the one. I think that they all have something to offer,
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and I think that you have to look through a
lot of them to actually find the one thing that
maybe keys you to find your individual pathway into it.
I do not believe, and never have in my eighty
something years, that everyone can heal in the same way.
Each one of us are as unique as a snowflake,
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and therefore there is nothing in common and what we
are and do in many ways, and I think healing
has to be one of those uncommon areas, because then
you have to put yourself into a place that is
uniquely yours and allows your personal power to come forth
and be an assistant. So I'm hoping that all you
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do follow us along the way as we cover what
we can get out of this book. And for those
of you who have been very critical of reiki, I
have no defense, nor do I feel I need to
defend reiki. I think that reiki has proven a great
method for many people, and the success speaks for itself.
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So if you're not a reiki fan, I apologize for that,
But then can you just put that aside and listen
to this woman's personal experience and actually her pathway into
the many other ways look of looking at it. I
feel that, especially in the chapter that we're going to
cover today, she's actually more supportive in Beingstem's particular research
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because that got her started. So, like I said, I
don't feel that the book is really geared to actually
sell everybody on Reiki is the one and only I
don't believe that. Of course, we haven't gotten to the
back of the book, so that's just a statement from
the first few chapters, okay, but we're going to cover that,
and as you want, please add yours anything you want
(04:18):
to come on the line, definitely pick up on our
Facebook and share what you feel and actually share what
you're doing if you want, okay, and that would make
us very very happy. I'm sure all my co hosts
agree with that. So we're going to start today and
we're going to just kind of let the co host
run in through their particular I would say, reactions to
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what they've seen and read about this woman, as well
as where we're going with it.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
We have been.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Most of us have been very much involved with energy
healing the greater part of our life. Okay, So we
do have our own particular set feelings what we're going
to be discussing, and we will be sharing with that
as we go along. So I'm going to let you
start today tree now with chapter one and give us
a particular In fact, each of the co hosts will
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actually be discussing chapters one and two just to give
you an idea of what the book, the beginning of
the books about and what her story, what Johanna's story
particularly is Okay, Tree, don't you want to give us
what you have from that?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:28):
So chapter one in the book is about energy healing,
and she just gives a background about energy healing. And
what I found fascinating about in chapter one is that
there's been hands on energy healing in so many different traditions,
so many different ways, cultures, religions, even the royalty. The
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royalty were known as energy healers and people would line
up to get healings from them. And so she really
gives us a nice background, kind of sets the stage
for us in how it's been worked, and also makes
the point too, which is basically what you've been saying Grammar.
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There's so many different types of healing, whether it be
quantum touch or therapeutic touch, or chronic healing, distance healing.
She go on all kinds of different types. Then chapter
two moves into Bankston's research, and that's where she moved
out of the field of physics quantum physics. But she
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heard so much about people healing here and heard about
energy healing and was introduced to Bankston's work and he
was doing a lot of research on the energy healing
and some of his work involved injecting mice with mammalarian
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cancer and this cancer would kill the mice within fourteen
to twenty seven days. But he had a control group.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And he had another.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And he had people that were doing the hands on
work with the mice as well. And in the book
he actually talks about treated groups and control groups and
how he works all his experiments, and there was definitely
showed that the mice that had some hands on energy work,
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some kind of healing work in these modalities actually survived
and actually lived and the cancers disappeared. So there's quite
a bit in this and I'll let the other co
hosts talk a little bit too, But that's where she
started was with Bankston's work.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
She was a.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Scientist and he's a scientist, and she really jumped into
looking at that scientific approach to energy healing just from
the very start.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I think that everyone and at whatever level self discovery
that we come to, there's something that starts moving inside
of us. There's a feeling that we have there's an
anticipation one might want to call it or something, but
we know that we're moving and looking for something. And
I feel how in reading everything about her and reading
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the beginning of this book, I feel that at this
time in her life she had come to see things,
maybe through her own work, okay, because she was definitely
working with plastics and seeing what she could explore and
find it. Then something actually stimulated her to want to
look further at something. And I feel that we all
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do that as we come to wanting to know who
we are, the why, and everything about ourselves we finally
walk into It's like would they people say, well, when
the student is ready, the teacher appears. I believe that
that very much is so here with Johanna's story, and
by the time she actually gets to that what she's
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looking at, what Bingston is doing, it just started her
to wanting to see more answers and hear more things
going on. So that compelled her and one of the
things that I saw read on her, she felt compelled
that she had to see what else was behind all this.
(09:22):
So I think that we all go through that need,
and that's where I feel she actually goes through all
of these, like you say, train all these different particulars
on energy healing, and God knows there's a huge market
out there of it, right, So we'll go on and
let Marianne Love, who is a therapist in Melburn. Marian
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what did you get out of these two? Was there
anything you could identify with there?
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Yes, my Mann, Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I really enjoyed her openness to just learning and being
on the journey. Like I can say, she's come from
a hard science like she's come from the physics kind
of background, and I can totally identify with that calling
to know more. But I like that in her ability
to research and her interest in research, she hasn't closed
out any particular philosophy. She's looked at Jesus was a
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hands on healer, she's looked into the Eastern philosophies, the
Western philosophies, and she's been able to well describe, you know,
how this has actually been around for as long as
we have, you know, as long as humans have really
and that she embuked on her own journey and finding
out through her own experience what the reality of all
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of that was. And she's to me not saying that
there's any one particular way to do it. She's saying,
this is how she's doing it, and this is how
she learned and through her own intuition and experience developed
what works for her and what she feels works for
her clients. But I don't find it prescriptive. I find
it in to explore.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yes, very much.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So how much do you feel as a therapist to
yourself and seeing clients, do you use any of the
particular mental practices of holding a particular field focus for
yourself while you're working with them?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Have you explored any of that yet?
Speaker 6 (11:22):
I know that when I'm with clients, I hold an
image for them, like I often hold for them what
they're saying they want to get out of it, their
ideal self foremost. And I can see even in what
she's talking about, like in Benningston's research, that through holding
a higher vibration than the client themselves, just through doing that,
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we are imparting for them something that's helpful. And so
I certainly do consider that its so important as a
therapist to be happy within myself, to be a higher
vibration so that I can help others. But in terms
of like actively doing this energy work, not so consciously
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as what she's describing here.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, but I'm hoping maybe you get a lot out
of this then you know, work your time for sure.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Okay. I like what there's some she said.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And this is kind of jumping ahead in the book
to chapter two, but it's actually a quote from Tesla
that I have written many times in my journal and
stuff because I use it sometimes to put myself get
my feet back on the ground.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Okay, And I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Read that the day science begins to study non physical phenomena,
it will make progress in one decade, then in all
the previous centuries of its existence. If you want to
find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy,
frequency and vibration Nicola Tesla, eighteen fifty six to nineteen
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forty three. And so basically, anyone who's ever left a
footprint on this Earth in their life with something they've done,
has actually done it through the discovery or something that
opened the door to a wider seeking and understanding of
what energy is. And I love how she makes her
point in chapter one in two that it's the body
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that heals, Okay, that what the energy is actually helping
give the body more of its own resource. More so
than the foreign things we may put into it. So
I like how she definitely come right off the top
with saying the body is self healing, and it is,
and some healers forget about that, they actually begin to
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take credit for that. The most we can ever hope
for is that we can be of great enough assistance
that the body can take the charge and move to
healing of itself.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Okay, let's go on.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So we're gonna go ahead. We'll bring in Gabby. Gabby,
you want to share with us what you got out
of a couple of chapter.
Speaker 7 (14:09):
I thought it was really great of her, coming from
a scientific background, that she gave science examples where she
told us that, like even fifteen thousand years ago, there
were cave paintings about that sort of healing. Then she
went too well known medicals like Hippocrates, the father of
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all medicine, who said that he felt a flow of.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Energy from his hands when with patients.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
And I mean that is really profound because they were scientists,
and you know, they felt the energy healing as well,
so it was really helpful.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
She also, you know, I found that while she started.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Off with reiki, that was her first path, her first
sort of toe dip into energy healing.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
She made sure to mention all.
Speaker 7 (14:59):
The other energy healing methods that are out there, and
with that she really says, it's all there. There's no
one and only there's no like you said, grandmother, there's
no one particular the way. And later in the book
she gets even more into that. And also I found
it interesting that she said, you know, in one of
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her mottos that she lives her life with the understanding
that the soul is eternal and the body my home
in this life is only temporary. That's a big step
from someone who comes from a science background.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Quantum leap, quantum leap, you know.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
But I like how she puts the two together for
people to play with and saying it doesn't have to
be one or the other. How can we combine them,
make them complimentary. Maybe sees them as alternative ways of
doing and being. And with the Beanston method, when he
talked about she talked about his way of approaching healing,
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what stood out for me is the point that the
healer needs to get the ego in the mind out
of the way while allowing the energy to channel through.
So the Banks And method really says you keep your
mind busy with something so you don't think about what
you're doing, so you're allowing the flow. And I found
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that was the most profound part. And one quote she
put into the chapter is by LOOTI in the Tower Titching.
It says, those who cultivate the doo and now is
the chie the energy are able to channel chi for
others full stop.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
So that's powerful, very powerful.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yes, it is very powerful. It is the key. It
definitely is the key.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And so basically with everything that she's given us in
this Okay, well, but I want to take care of
something because I'm getting a few signals over here that
there's been some people upset. Neither myself nor my code
hosts are endorsing mice as victims of research. Okay, this
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is not something that I am giving. In fact, we
have not been asked for our approval. Okay, we're simply
sharing with you a book, and this particular author sharing
with you the results of someone who has used mice.
I find mice beautiful little people and they have five
precious little fingers, and I don't wish them any harm,
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let alone make them guinea pigs. So please, let's not
bring that back to us and think that we're endorsing
that with this research, Okay, saying that, then moving on
and saying, like the very presence of energy, it begins
that where we're at in the world today and we're
all studying the greater extent of that, okay, is that
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everything is energy. Nothing can exist in the third dimension
that is not energy. If it materially or physically as
a presence and is a thing, Okay, then it is energy.
And what we are learning and what the news sciences
the show notess is that everything around us is actually emanating.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
At one point, what Johanna shares is how Benson is
actually using drums and creating a beat. I think that
the point you've made, Gabby that when you're in the
process of healing, you have to be able to move
past everything else and enter into that zone, get into
that space of yourself. And the ways you do that,
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I think reiki is a good way that shows how
to do that.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
There are many.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Ways, okay, but actually you acquiring and understanding what of
it works for you is the necessity of the battle.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Once you get centered, you're going to move your energy.
Once you can stay in the moment, in the now,
and that's exactly what she's promoting here. You have to
be you, the healer has to be in the now,
not somewhere else and not around about anything, not in
the field, but now right here. And once you have
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two or more, then you have the presence of everything
that needs to be magnetically working together and then that's
where healing happens. And at that point I would hope
that all of our healers listening and those seeking healing
as well as interested in starting healing would actually make.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
That a note and key that what you move forward with.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay, moving on that, is there anything in chapters one
and two that you guys would like to continue to
share with the people. Definitely am hoping they all get
the book because the practices are something you'd want to
have your own library.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
This is Marianne from Melvin, Australia. I was really curious
about when.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
You apply the Benston's method in the research in the
control group of mice, the ones that he just simply visited,
He didn't actually apply the method to, He just went
and checked in on.
Speaker 6 (20:16):
They also received the healing. And he was curious about that,
and I think it was that simply within his presence
because he had done this particular healing method, they also
gained the benefit of the method even though it wasn't
actively applied to them. So I thought that was really curious.
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He had to do more to create a control group
where he didn't visit the mice at all in order
to see if there was any benefit from the method.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
That he used.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
So I thought that was really interesting and also.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm sorry, well I felt that, but I felt what
he actually made the point though, especially in his own research,
is that his presence was something that the mice reacted to,
and that it was his being there him personally and
of course in what you would consider as the support
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team or the particular people working with him. That I
think that when they found that the particular team lost
the mice that was actually in their care, it did
it they lacked, They lacked the personalization that obviously he
could give it, and the when actually looking into Johanna's
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particular new presence in my life, I actually have had
people come to me indirectly through his work.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
He healed thousands and thousands of people.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And his whole modality to that is that he cared
and that each one of them more special to him
that bringing someone from the grips of death into life
again and to help them he knew that. He feels
it actually gives them a new birthing and brings them
into a greater consciousness for the rest of their life.
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I would say, amen, one hundred percent on that.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So anything else that anybody wants to remark on from
the a couple of chapters, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
This is Trina again in Denver, and I just wanted
to say that. Toward the end of chapter two, she
actually says she was surprised that Benston's studies and research
never made it into the media, and that she sees
it as a complementary type of healing modality and that
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there had been cancer cures, there had been a lot
of successes, yet none of this was ever reported. And
even though these healing methods have been studied, it doesn't
seem that it seems like it's very slow that they're
coming out into the media and being accepted by the
general public. But this is coming from a scientist looking
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at other scientists work and finding surprise.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That this wasn't being reported on Well, I'm surprised that
she was surprised because there are thousands, if not millions
of them, and Trina, you and I have shared some
of that in our work in our life together. When
you and Larry were doing one of your programs and
you had people bringing their inventions forward on energy saving
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and everything else, nobody heard about them. They never got
any publicity, It never got out there. You know what
I'm saying, There's the communication skills amongst human beings actually
is what we need to get better at so that
we can build stronger community because it is true communication
that you do that. And I feel that this man's
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work was something that he loved. He never was seeking
popularity or approval. He was actually going on his own
high with this, and therefore little or no one took
mention or took pick up. It's usually someone else that
picks up the torch and starts singing the song for somebody.
He just didn't have that. But it doesn't stop the
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fact that the record show how very very deep into
what he did he did do and I appreciate it,
but I feel that I run into I would have
to say, in eighty something years, I've probably touched millions
of people who I believe should have actually had somebody's
ear along the way giving them more information on what's
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out there and what we can do. I know that
I sit every week, twice a week in a forum
with some of the top people in research and science,
and they don't want they don't want it to go
any further than that. They amongst themselves, work off of
each other's put and everything and move and whenever they
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come to a decision on something, they kind of slip
it aside on the like write it out on the napkin,
and pass it all forward that maybe somebody else will
take it and make sure other people hear about it.
And it's because of just the fact that you have
to then start dealing with the positive and the negative
of people.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
That are going to not like it, or someone trying
to stop it.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And today, definitely we all know that Big Pharma is
not going to let too much get past it. As
far as natural healing, and what is this? This is
natural healing. Okay, So that doesn't surprise me that he
isn't well known, But neither does it say much that
she would expect for all she found about him that
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most people should know want so I think that's why
she's promoting it in her book, and hopefully it gets
out a little further in her book. Okay, anyone else
ready to share some more on chapters one and two?
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Hi, sus Gabriel.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Yeah, I looked into the Bankston method and I actually
started using it, Like, I'm not really fast at it yet,
but I started using the cycling of the positive images,
and it is incredible. I have like ten images I
cycle and I'm only practicing, but.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
My vibration gets so high, my.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Emotion is so beautiful and positive doing it. It is incredible.
So I just wanted to share that I'm playing with that. Yes,
and definitely it's something that anybody there. I guess there's
a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I haven't checked it, but I'm assuming there's a lot
on the internet of his method that you can actually
check into. Right, Have any of you checked that out
and actually get well worsed in that? But his imaging, definitely,
his imaging process was what he contributes. A lot of
his success is holding the bomb into staying in the
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now with just making sure that you're inside those different
images and the whole thing is not to wander. We
all know how fast the body takes over and the
mind drifts.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And any way that you can hold that feeling and
hold yourself in that now, in the now, then you're
very well going to go with success, Okay, anyone else this.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
Is Mary, Yeah, I find it interesting his technique. It's
all about accelerating, whereas when other techniques they so talk
more about let's just relax and get into a in
our let's al you know, calm down, and he's more boo,
let's all pump up actually, and pumping up actually makes
more sense really to.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Me for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
When you said that, it brings and I have to
share this because there's so much humor in it. At
least it was humorous after the fact. When my grand
when my daughter in law was giveing birth to my grandson,
we were actually having the birth in the house, okay,
and we had a midwife and she had an assistant
with her okay, and my daughter in law had chose
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to actually have a water berth, so there was this
big thing of water that was brought in and she
was in the water. And of course, if anyone who's
had a baby, you realize in the transition period, everything's
all beautiful nice and can be spiritually, metaphysically mythical, okay,
until the transition starts, okay. And then when transition starts,
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all of a sudden, everything gets very physical and definitely
a whole different scenario. And so the doulah and the
midwife had been saying, you know what they would keep
saying to her, Well, she was saying, okay, I feel something,
you know, getting more tense here. And then they.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Would they would keep saying her.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Open, just you know, just relax and breathing open, okay,
And they would say the word open very slow and
go with it. And I'm walking around pacing okay, because
i have been involved in many berths, and I'm realizing
she's in transition, and right now, her hearing you say
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just relax and be open, you could throw that to
the wind, you know. And then finally she and I'm
there okay. And the reason I couldn't deliver this child
is because it's against the law, okay, And since we
were in the city, I could not be the one
actually doing the midwife.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
We had to have somebody that was licensed, okay. So
this is how that happened.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But at one point I finally just had to get
very rude, and I said to the doula, just please stop.
And I looked at my grand my daughter in law,
and I said, okay, let's work. I just got over
to the side of the pool that she was in,
took her by the hand, and I said, you're going
to push. And she just looked at me and started
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crying and laughing at the same time. And she says,
thank God. And after she pushed, maybe several times we
had this beautiful, beautiful child in our hands. But sometimes
the acceleration, the moving fast, even some of the things
were studying in some of the other books from Guswami. Okay,
one of the techniques and energy that many spiritual people
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use in many schools or spirituality use is taking your
body and just shaking it. I mean just rattling the
body up, just intensifying the energy and speeding everything up
to actually have the breakthrough.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So I saw that and it's like that. Definitely recalled it.
It's calm and being quiet and open just doesn't get
it at some points of the healing. Okay, you have
to accelerate. Okay, good point. Marianne and anybody else have
some things you'd like to share about chapter one and two.
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We're going to move very rapid through the book because
the chapters aren't very involved, and so we don't plan
on being in this book more than three four weeks.
So definitely we're trying to give you a good easy
start with the chapters one and two, but we will
be accelerating that moving and giving you the high points.
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So we're giving at least another week to get the
book in hand so you can follow along with us.
So anyone has some other points that you would like
to discuss, and it was the visioning of seeing the pictures.
She's calling cycling the images. Keeps your mind on the
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particular moment of what you're doing in the in space
time at that time.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Works well.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
When you get your book, you'll want to go to
pages twenty seven and twenty eight because they give a
very thorough charting of actually what at this point of
some of the experience experiments that they were doing with
the mace, and how definitely the results were showing that
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beings that actually as Marianne had brought up his presence,
his obvious work as a healer and his love of
healing and bring in life definitely had to show some
effects here without a doubt.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
This is Marianna. I'm not sure if I've got the
understanding correct here, but it sounds to me like with
his method, you cycle through the imagery. You don't necessarily
focus on healing something in particular. You focus through the
end and the imagery and raise your vibration in the
context of the of the being that you're I guess
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healing or assisting in their own what he's healing. But
you're not saying I heal mice.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
This is I got that understanding correct.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He's not saying I heal mice. Actually the modality of
the energy. What's happening with the energy? Okay, what the
energy is doing?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yes, and that to me and I have not used
his methods, So I please want everybody to know. I'm
not saying here that I'm the expert on his methods,
but I know and what I've learned to do, and
how I see what he's I think I see what
he's talking about is you want to be totally emerged
in the thought that the energy is working and what
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you wanted to do, so that you're seeing the image
of that that you're actually holding the imagery along with
whatever your feelings might be. Some healers say that they
need to feel the heat. They have to feel the
temperature because they know things go from hot to cold
in different areas on the body. And what he is
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you have to see with your hands exactly what the
energy is it's doing and the whole. You have these
particular frames, meaning these particular scenes, and that you're holding
to them. That's them, that transmission of that image. It's
helping you actually find location and have effect. Gabby, you
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said you've actually read some of it stuff. Does this
sound familiar to.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
You when I read up about it?
Speaker 7 (34:30):
What he suggests is that you find about ten or
twelve items in your own life that you desire, and
you create an image of what you desire, and you
get faster and faster by cycling them through your mind,
and that helps you focus in the moment, gets your
emotional awareness up and your vibration up, and you hold
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that during the healing process, so you get your ego
out of the way, so you're almost totally thinking about
something else, but with high emotional awareness, and you know,
cyping through those images of things you want. And on
his website he has a little line. He says, Well,
then in the process some of them may even manifest,
so that's a good thing too.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
So that is how I understood it.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
They're all personal images to him.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
It's correct, That's how I understand it.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Okay, all right, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong
with that is not the way that I do, and
I would definitely check into that. It seems that we've
pretty much covered the two chapters. So if there's anything
in your personal experiences with energy healing that you'd like
to share in the next ten to fifteen minutes, we
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have and we're we're definitely open to do that.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
This is Trina in Denver, and I, I like Joanna,
kind of went on a path of becoming interested in it,
looking at different types of healing methods, and she actually
has said she's found over time, with so many different
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methods and people trying different things, they find what works
with them, they find what resonates with them, and they
create their own type of practice. Where I started with
some healing techniques, I went and studied reiki and became
a reiki master, moved into using more sound with the
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work that I was doing, and started to find kind
of my own way, the way that it felt good,
and always staying open. I think that's one of the
biggest things that she's talked about, and I agree with that,
is being open because we're working with we're working with energy,
and if we stay open, it actually you actually draw
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to you more different methods, different ways of looking at things, experiences,
and they all it's getting in touch with this, it's
getting in touch with the feeling of it and getting
in touch with the feeling of the energy that's there too.
That really makes the hands on the energy feelings really
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powerful and it's both for the healer and for the healing.
And that's one of the things she brings out is that.
And I know so many people who have gone kind
of the way that she did, where they tried one
and they tried reiki, then they tried something else and
kind of came to the one that they resonated with
or developed their own. But one of the things I
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found fascinating with this work is that, as has been
said before, is that there is this drive to understand more,
There's this drive to move forward with things. There's a
drive to help people. There's really a drive inside to
make people better, and so I know for me it
evolved over time and it's gone from being hands on
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two now working with devices and looking at science and things.
And the more I look at it and the more
I study it, the more comes to the surface, especially
as far as studies and experiments and papers that people
have written and things that have been used over time.
So yeah, it's definitely. I believe it's the way of
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the future. I believe it's the natural way that we've
all been blessed with to work with allowing our bodies
to heal, and the more that comes forward, the more
of a blessing it is for everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I'd have to say, I totally support that. But when
you say, and I understand when get the many that
have come forward that are anti reiki or anti this
or anti that. Okay, when I think that the the
problem becomes there when we say something like you said,
reiki master, Okay, you've mastered the workings and technique of
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somebody else. I don't believe that works, and I don't
believe you can heal with that. I believe the most
that you can do, and what I've learned in my
eighty years is no matter what you the person who
starts something can say and do it is yours.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Other people can actually explore and work with that until
they find the key that is theirs. So when people
try to say, okay, I do this, and this is
doctor so and so's this or this is that or whatever,
see I look at that, and there's almost a sadness
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because you have forgotten. You can't copy, and you can't
do somebody else. You have to do you, for sure.
The one thing in this world that remains the same is.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You have to do you.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
And all you can do in someone else's particular techniques
or systems or styles or whatever is look at that
and see what it transmits or excites in you or
brings out in you. And some may and some may not.
So those who are anti reki, I feel at that
point are actually saying it did nothing for them because
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it really wasn't what they were looking for or in
whatever the techniques are, which are whatever they are, it didn't.
It didn't happen, The turn on didn't happen. And so
then my question to you, Trina would be what what
what what makes you a reiki master? What does being
a master of reiki mean? And like, are you saying
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that there's a uniformity now that everybody that goes and
does this level and acquires this that now those are
the masters.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
They actually it's part of the class levels that you
go through because there's certain levels that you practice and
then when you get to the when you get to
the end, that's what I guess the title that they
give you or whatever, but I know I moved beyond that,
and it's something that a lot of people are very
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familiar with now. But I've also done a lot of
other things. I did a whole soul body fusion training
and became a soul body fusion therapist or something like that.
So it's that's the name that and some people resonate
with it and some people don't. But it's actually going
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through and studying all the levels and practicing all the
levels and getting to a place where they actually say, okay,
you know it well enough, you can teach it now.
But that wasn't a path that I stayed on. So yeah,
that's actually like the third level of the of the teachings,
is you.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
So for one to say they're a master, then they
have learned and know all the techniques, is what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Basically, yes, and they've they've done the practices to get
to that level.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Okay. Sounds reasonable, sounds very reasonable. Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Anyone else got anything else you would like to share
in your own experience of working with energy, I would
just keep coming back to you, Mary, and I would
just think as a therapist, a psychotherapist and all of
the emotional charge situations that brings people to your office.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
That definitely energy and finding your own way of handling
energy because you know by this time in your career
that the books in the school that you learned how
to be a therapist has done nothing to help you
know exactly how to help your patients. And that's basically
what I was getting at with my question here with Trina.
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We have systems that claim and doctors, I mean, the
new doctor's coming out today just make get me so excited, okay,
because they actually are speaking up and saying, after all
this time and money that I've put into this, I
really feel inadequate. I really don't feel that I've been
(43:16):
given anything that will make me really preserve life and
take care of it because this system isn't up to
speed yet. There are so much things. There's so many
things that need to be looked at. And I encourage
them when they say that as a child, don't buy
into the system. Then you know all you all you
need to do is do whatever they expect you to
(43:38):
do to get your license. And then by all means,
follow your heart. If you know that there is something
you're not doing that needs to be done, then you
have to find a way to work with that, explore that,
and make it work for you. And I feel that
that basically is what psychology is, Okay, I feel in
(44:00):
today's world there I would say at least ninety percent
of the world's population is depressed, meaning they are emotionally
not happy and they don't know why and they're missing something.
And I would say the ten percent that are happy
are people who we call savages on educated people that
(44:22):
live in the wilderness. Okay, they are if they're anywhere
affected by media and news and what else is going
on in the world, they have a problem. And so
when they end up in your office, you have to
have your own separate, individual channel of how you can
(44:43):
get into their space and be where they're at talking
to them from where they're at. Have you explored any
particulars with that. All right, listen, if I'm putting you
on the spot here and asking you to reveal anything
that might get you in trouble with your licensing, don't.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Even Okay, just say we're not going to respond to that.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
But if there is something about you you can share,
because I know you're very well studied in what I
call the new spiritual sciences.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
And I think that is an aspect and big element
of what I've done is I got my license, and
then I went to explore what really woke up my
heart and made me feel passionate about life and enjoying life.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
And a lot of.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
It is really hard to put words to, so I'm
not being consciously evasive. It's just sometimes it's very hard
to describe what you do with people because it feels
like some of it is beyond the word. And I
think just learning with you, going on vision Quest, being
a sun dancer, learning quantum physics, all these things expand
(45:56):
my own, I guess presence, and that's my intention, is
to expand my presence so that in that presence, my
hope and my love for the clients is that they
also get what they need individually and personally, and to me,
some of that is beyond words. Don't I don't sit
there and talk about these things directly with clients. I
(46:17):
wouldn't talk about energy work with clients. I just I
don't feel that that's appropriate within psychology. But it's also
not a lot of clients' interests. They are interests though,
in healing and whatever way that works. So I use
em DR therapy. I find a helpful bridge between some
of these sort of more left of field healing methods.
(46:38):
I find em D helps them tune into their own
It's sort of like what I see as their own observer,
their own beautiful wisdom helps theirselves heal. They get to
observe their feelings and release some of them. So I
think I use different methods, but not so consciously raiki
or any anything described in these books. Quantum physic Understanding
(47:03):
Quantum physics has helped me a lot, though.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
How about hypnosis? Have you decided or see any value
of hypnosis in your work?
Speaker 6 (47:13):
Yeah? I haven't actively studied it, which is next on
my list, but I find in EMDR therapy there's definitely
an element of programming in and.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Doing hypnosis with clients.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
So after the release of negative feelings and negative beliefs,
and there's an element of programming in so. And the
more I study with you, grandmother, and the more I
study quantum physics and things, I really see the value
of hypnosis and reimaging life. Yeah, I've I almost wish
i'd studied that right in the beginning of my career.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
More consciously, you did do that for some for a
while there.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Okay. What is it the rapid eye mo technique.
Speaker 6 (47:55):
That you Yeah, I'm using that a lot.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, that's hypnosis, Marian, that's the level of hypnosis.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
And on the other side of everything else that you're doing,
you know, like what Gabby has shared with us on
what Benson's doing with focusing, it makes sense to me
that if I can image and hold my focus on
images that make me feel powerful, that make me feel good,
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that make me feel energized. Okay, it definitely is charging
my field. It's putting a charge in my field. So
the electromagnetics in my field are working stronger. I realize
that can be transferred and that can be shared in
an openness and everything but hypnosis to me and seeing
(48:50):
how it's used Okay, is that so many times when
people decide they're going to go to a therapist. Don't
ask me, but when they first go to a therapist,
most people lie. The therapist has to have two or
three sessions before they really can see the truth behind
(49:10):
what the patient's telling them. So to really get to
know your patients, you hear their upfront story while you're
looking in their back door, okay, and by that you
see all these little things that give you signals and
things like that. With hypnosis, you can byStep that and
you can actually get right to the heart of what
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it is that they're trying to hide or what they're
not comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
So that's going to justify that.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
They can't tell you what it really is, or in
some instances that it's just too painful for them to
know how to put it in.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
The words I mean.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
So for me, hypnosis helps you get to the truth
or get to the clear situation and work with it.
So I would hope, yeah, that you do pursue that.
I'm happy to hear you're going to pursue that. But
I think in Benston's situation and rethinking what you've shared
with us, gaviy On his technique.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
I could.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I can see and I realize, not knowingly, I've done
some of that inasmuch as I'm when I'm with a
patient and I hear the redundancy of their excuse and
their victimization. Okay, I realize I can't stay in that
because my natural instinct is to pull the scabs off
of those stories, okay, and just.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Get to the get to the wound, okay.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
And so in order to have be the more gentle
approach on it I do, I take myself into inside stories.
And usually their stories are sitting in circle with my
elders and drum and singing grandmother's.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Sharings and stuff.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
So there are these heartwarming situations that come in that
help you fill fill that time or that place where something,
something greater is needed or has to happened. So it
moves on very well, I think for not having much rehearsal, ladies,
and actually having the time bomb dropped in on us
(51:07):
and saying, okay, we're covering chapter one and two today
after a couple of weeks of all kinds of conflict
that's gotten in the way of our usual Wednesday program.
You've done a fantastic job of giving us at least
a coverage on these two chapters. Okay, And I'd like
to say to our audience, I hope we've given you
some insights and kept your interests up enough that you
(51:30):
stayed with us this long, okay, And we will be
back next week, and we will be covering at least
three to five chapters or more by next week, and
looking to whatever you can find on the internet on
doctor Benson stuff and actually have some of your own
and by all means, beloved's get the book, have your
(51:52):
own library of your progress and a path to enlightenment
of which we definitely invite you to each week. Unquantumly Okay,
this is Parisha, your host, and I'll say goodbye for
this week, and we do look forward to seeing.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
You next week. Be well, be healthy, be happy.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
Oh so thank you for listening to Quantum Lead Book Club.
For more information where you can contact us, go to
lay Radio Network dot com, forward slash Quantum hyphen Lead.
Have a great week,
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