September 6, 2025 • 59 mins
Quantum Leap Book Club - Pa'Ris'Ha and her international panel of Co-hosts begin chapter one of "The Heartmath Solution" by Doc Childre and Howard Martin, with Donna Beech. Scientific research shows that the heart is actually a separate brain that sends signals to the brain in our head continuously. How does it influence all other organs? What decisions does the heart it make independently the head? Join Pa'Ris'Ha and Co-hosts Marianne Love, Melbourne AUS; Tryna Cooper, Denver CO; Gabrielle Thompson, Mt. Beauty, AUS; Evelyn Yllada, Miami FL; and Geraldene Dalby-Ball, Sydney AUS, as they begin to explore "The Heartmath Solution" by Doc Childre and Howard Martin, with Donna Beech.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Our regular host Parisha will not be joining us tonight
as she is traveling and teaching, so her co hosts
will cover tonight's material. We have myself, Maryanne Love from Melbourne, Australia.
We have Alloway from Sydney, Australia, and we have Gabrielle
Thompson from Mount Beauty in Victoria, Australia. And tonight, Trina
(01:03):
Cooper's unfortunately unwell and so is Evely and Uladi, so
both of our co hosts will not be joining us tonight.
Our book this week is The Heart Mass Solution by
Doc Childre and Howard Martin, and we're in chapter one
and so we'll be discussing pages three to twenty three
tonight and we are broadcasting through Law of Attraction Network Radio.
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So let's begin. So this is an awesome book so far.
I love it when we study anything about the heart,
because I find in the study of psychology, ironically, there's
not very much covered about the heart and a lot
covered about the brain. So it feels like a very
understudied or if it's not understudied, it's underspoken about resource
(01:48):
that we all have access to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And so in this.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Chapter they've laid out some really important points, and I
think one of the main points I got out of
this was the heart in itself is a brain separate
from the brain in the head, and so even if
the heart was severed from the brain, it still continues
to work. And another really interesting thing is the hearts
is sending signals to the brain all the time, So
(02:14):
we think that the heart follows the brain command, but
actually the heart will make its own decision about what
it follows about what the brain commands. So if the
brain's sending it really a signal to say it's in danger,
the heart won't necessarily respond with a faster heart rate.
(02:34):
It makes its own decision about that, and you know,
it'd be really interesting to know what are the factors
that create the decision that it makes. Why would it
speed up in some situations and not in other situations
when other organs of the body will respond to the
distress from the brain.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So there's so much.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
In here that we could use, really, and they've given
us and they're introducing some really powerful techniques that we
can apply in our everyday life so that we can
begin to listen to the messages and the intelligence of
the heart. And so what I want to do now
is just hand over to some of my co hosts.
I'd love to hear what you guys have to say,
(03:15):
what you got out of it, and how you're applying it.
So how about I hand over to you first, Delaway.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, I really like what you said about it being
something to study more, because indeed, when we talk about
the heart, typically there's this idea that it's a pump
and it's essential. Yes, but it's essential because it moves
blood around your body. And yet that from the really
old and the book, this first chapter goes into saying,
(03:43):
how so many of the old cultures talk about the heart,
you know, whether it be in Chinese medicine, whether it
be Judaism, Christian all sorts of things have writings that
go back to the heart, saying, you know, someone's working
from their heart, or they really put their heart into it,
or it's really like when it's the central piece, it's
(04:04):
the heart. And then there's a sharing about Chinese medicine
and how and the Yogic practice as well, and how
a lot of those relate back to the heart as
this central part and a part of balance, a part
that then what we're talking about in this book is
the scientific side of it as well, and looking back
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to those old cultures, it's always been there an absolutely
not just a key organ, but an organ that really
influences all of the others. And I particularly liked how
you just said as well. The heart has its own
independent brain, its own independent nervous system, and the studies
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have also shown that the brain has that ability to
what we would class as to think, to learn, and
to have memory and then influence the rest of the
body's organs because the information of the heart brain or
(05:07):
the brain in the heart sends information via various modes
to the rest of the whole body mind. And it
does it in different ways too. Because we've said the
heart's got neurons in it, it can provide information via
nerve signals. It can provide information in a biochemical way
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through changing hormones through the neurotransmitters that are within that.
It can change it biophysically through pressure waves, and these
are all been shown scientifically. And then some of the
more recent studies is saying, well, what's the influence of
the heart from an electromagnetic perspective, How did the electromagnetic
fields around a heart influence not just the body, But
(05:52):
they're saying, you know, eight to ten feet around the
body already they're being able to pick up that influence
of the heart. So that goes along with Okay, let's
look at where the electromagnetic field is greatest in the being,
and it's five thousand times stronger in the heart than
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it is in the brain. So the whole of this,
you know, why the heart matters for health is really
along those lines of the heart. Is this not just
a modulator, but it's an influencer. It sends information and
the information it sends, can help us manage causal levels,
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can help us with the immune system, can help us
with our nervous system. And what they've been looking at
is the having those positive or desirable emotions of love
appreciation really do create more coherence in the rhythms. That's more,
it doesn't mean that the heart is just a steady beat,
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because that's actually not so good. It's that the heart
is the communicating factor that then the rest is in
alignment with. And if you think of that, sometimes I'll go, oh,
you know, I felt this, but then logically I chose
to do something different that's not being in coherence with
(07:16):
my heart. So we've got that part about the heart's intelligence,
which I won't cover too much more. But just in
that way of saying, the heart gives us new ways
of thinking and being. That's that way of blending love, wisdom, courage, strength.
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So it's giving us more in there the types of
things that we may traditionally just attribute to our right
side of the brain, the creative emotive side of the brain,
whereas now we're saying, well, these are really components of
the heart. So heart math gives us ways to shift
our attention to the heart, like consciously the heart, and
(08:00):
the book's going to take us through that, which is
really awesome. We'd be given practical exercises to do, and
it can be around the breath, it can be around
core heart feelings and how to create those and what's
actually happening in your body when you do that, which
is why I love Heart Math even the word Heart math.
He chose to use the word heart because everyone sort
(08:22):
of knows about the heart and math because it's saying, look,
we do, measure things we do. It's the math word
is bringing in the scientific side of it. So as
we go through our book Heart Math, we will look
at heart and all that's happening and really giving it
that scientific backing. So when you do the practices, you'll
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know I'm doing this because it will have this particular outcome.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Thank you so much, very clear, and what did you
get out of it, Gabrielle.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yes, this is Gabrielle. Yeah, fantastic book and ess so
much in chapter one alone that gives food for thought
and you know, allows us to I was going to say,
think differently, but it's about thinking from the hearts, so
feeling differently.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Really.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He starts the chapter or the author start the chapter
was saying, like we all relate to the hearts. Or
when they were on a radio show, they had a
lot of ring ins by people when they started talking
about the heart. So that made them realize people are
interested in what the heart is because you know, scientifically,
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when we look up what the heart does, it's kind
of seen in regular science as this element of us
that beats gets directions from the brain on what to do,
and when it stops beating, it means we're no more
scientific facts he shares here is that the heart pumps
(10:03):
two gallons of blood per minute around the body. It
starts beating in the feetus before the brain has developed.
And I want to repeat these because they really stood
out to me. And the heart can beat without connection
to the brain, which they have shown in and after surgeries.
(10:25):
So the brain and the heart are obviously connected, but
the heart must have a life on its own. So
they're asking the question. You know, we often say follow
your heart, but what does it mean? And the Heart
Math Institute have found evidence that the heart sends us
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signals all the time that can help us regulate our
bodily functions and also regulate our emotions and our life.
We can improve our decision making. It's so much more
than just the scientific part of what it actually does
(11:07):
in the body. And interestingly, two, you know, they've found
cases in where the heart because they've followed the scientific paths,
they've found instances where the heart did not follow what
the brain was saying and kind of did an opposite action.
So there is intelligent there. But how do we tap
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into that? How can we tap into the power of
the heart that can actually, according to Heart Math Institute,
help with our health problems, our productivity, our ability to learn,
our quality of life, and our relationships with our people.
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And isn't that powerful? That's certainly what I want, you know,
I want to improve all these areas in my life.
And considering when we look at the world right now,
there's a lot of political, society, societal and environmental stresses
that are dealt with by looking for solutions that are logical,
(12:09):
that are you know, relate to the data we have,
that are sort of more brain oriented. But how would
it be if we could use our heart's intuition and
find solutions in different ways. That way what I just
(12:29):
want to share now, because I know we're sharing more later,
is that the fact that they found neurons in the
brain and in the heart, and in fact there's as
many or more neurons in the heart than there are
in the brain. And just you know, to neurons function
(12:51):
is to communicate to the cells, to transmit information via
chemical and electrical signals. So if our heart has more
neurons than the brain, than what follows is the heart
has a lot of influence of what happens in our body,
much more than was ever acknowledged. And as thus the
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hardest no scene to have a language of its own
and can think for itself, and it is further explored.
I want to leave it at that for now, but
I find that absolutely fascinating and I cannot wait to
read more of the book and find out more.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So true.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
There's so much in here that we can apply to
our daily lives that would make an immediate difference in
how we respond to others, how we.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Enjoy our day to day, how we.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Navigate businesses, how we navigate relationships, like just the simple
techniques there they're going to be teaching us in this book.
And I know that the whole heart math is based
on a whole lot of research that they've done because
they were curious in the beginning about what is the
influence of the heart. It's clearly an influence, and they
really devoted their lives to studying that influence and providing
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some really simple tools. I've used them. They're very simple
tools to be able to turn around our whole physical chemistry.
And if you think about it, like even doctors say, well,
illness relates to the stress levels of the body, Like,
I mean, that seems like such common knowledge, but then
how do you change the stress levels of your body?
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And they're saying, well, simply focus on the heart, and
the heart reduces the cortisol levels in the body. So
he's one avenue for health and well being, isn't it.
Like we can use that the heart's ability to create hormones,
it's electromagnetic field, in order to shift our chemistry. So
(14:58):
it's a really powerful tool we have at our grip,
you know, right there right in the middle of our being.
We can access it at any time. And I mean,
it's clear nowadays that there are more types of intelligence
than just what people would classically think as the intelligence
of the ability to remember or use your brain in
(15:20):
particular ways like there are now intelligence described more about
emotional intelligence, and he's spoken this chapter about Gardener's description
of intelligence being not just logical or spatial, it's also musical,
kinesthetic or bodily, and intrapersonal which is self knowledge, and interpersonal,
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which is knowledge of others. So just imagine if we
can manage our emotions, just how much how much further
we'll get in life because we'll be able to handle
our moods, we'll be able to manage our relationship with others.
And there's even recent on that that it's not about
sort of more cognitive intelligence that gets people further down
(16:06):
the track, it's actually their emotional intelligence. And luckily emotional
intelligence can be taught, so this is something we can
all develop really well.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And I have you.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Can go online and download there the different techniques they
talk about in this book, which is one of them
was called freeze frame, and the other ones cut through,
and the third one they described in this chapter was
heart lockins. So I think it's worth going jumping online
and having a look at those techniques and buying the
book clearly to get all the research. So there's so
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much out there that we could just apply immediately. If
you want to have a good day, start with the heart.
From the sound of it, what else has come up
for you all the way.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Well, just that I want to make that a bumper sticker.
If you want a good day, start with the heart.
That's pretty great, put on. I love it. And the
other part is that that idea that the heart, as
I started off, the heart is not just a pump,
but also that the heart produces hormones like that's even
(17:15):
next level, and it produces a particular type of hormone
out of the atrium, which is why part of the
name of that hormone has atriol in it. And the
atrium is that that main vessel that takes the blood
out of the heart and around to the head and
to the body. So right in that part of the
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heart that's right there to put it into the blood
that goes everywhere, is a hormone that reduces cortisol levels,
so it reduces the stress levels that actually comes from
the heart. This hormone has also been found to help
regulate nervous system, and just from those two components, it's
(17:57):
pretty amazing. But in addition to that, they're found that
that particular hormone from the heart also produces serotonin and dopamine,
which makes you happy. So just the heart of its own,
we've talked about it having neurons, we've talked about it
having that ability to have the sort of feedback, and
of course the pump that's known to be, but now
(18:19):
also that it has the ability to create this most
beautiful hormone that does lots of things that we want.
Decrease stress, increase the happy hormones of serotonin and dopamine,
and that reducing of cortisol levels as you mentioned earlier.
So much of health is linked to You have much
(18:39):
better health when you have less stress. And stress doesn't
necessarily mean what's happening to you. Yes, you can be
affected by your surrounds. But you'll see people in all
sorts of environments in the world, all sorts of things
going on, and they'll have different levels of stress. So
stress isn't something where you just say, well, when that's finished,
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or when I move here, or when I get away
from there, because we'll always take ourselves with us. So
the real way to manage stresses is, yes, help make
your external environment as delightful as it can be. Powerfully
how do we come into a space where we're producing
(19:21):
more of that chemistry. That's all the things that bring
up health and decrease stresses. And it's right there in the.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Heart, absolutely, And they talk about techniques that are not
that hard to do, really like focus on the heart
and bring up a feeling of appreciation or care. You know,
it's doable. Like we've all had experiences where we could
think about something we are grateful for, or even a pet,
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or we could look at nature, like there's a place
you could go where you could generate the feeling of
appreciation or care or love or kindness. And so the
techniques are not out of each of our realm, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I think we can all achieve the techniques.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It would be a matter of practice and making them
front of mind. So doing them enough so that when
the chips are down and you really need them, it's
right there, Like it will take a second because you
practice it so much, it'll take no time to bring
up a.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Feeling of appreciation.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And I like what he's what they're talking about, which
is once you've got the heart in that place, then
it is a source of wisdom. It will shoot messages
up to the brain, and I've heard grandmother share about that.
I remember when we did another book that just talked
about the heart and the brain, and it spoke about
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us being precognitive, which meant that we knew what was
going to happen before it happened. It was like a
long time before, maybe eight seconds before they could tell
a someone's going to press the red button and not
the blue button, for example. And Grandmother shared at that
time that the message has come in through the heart
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and then up from the heart to the brain. So
that's how we're precognitive, and so you know, and that's
just such an interesting perspective, like it's so different. We
think we know it through our brain, and yet it's
through the heart that the information is coming through and
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already knows it ahead of our brain. So it does
make you wonder what is the greater intelligence of all
of it, and how can we use it to influence
our brain to go in the direction like our thoughts.
How I see it and how it's been researched is
that our thoughts are simply the programs of our history
and our experience. So what we're thinking is a lot
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of what we've put in. It's a lot of our history,
it's a lot of our family.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Staff, it's our old stuff. So if you want to
have a.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
New thought to override the record, then we would need
new influence. And this says to me the heart is
the one that's going to override all that programming. Get
in a good space and a lot of your thoughts
change anyway. I mean, we all know that once we're
in a positive space, we think differently, Like you just
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don't notice the same things. Are they even like this?
Not in this book. In other books we've read, they've
even taken research of depressed people and shown them as
many funeral pictures as wedding pictures, And people who are
depressed will see more funeral pictures than wedding pictures, even
if they're exactly the same, and vice versa. It's all
a matter of perception, and our emotions are such a
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big part of how we perceive our reality, and this
is one avenue to shift emotion.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I did notice.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Gabrielle jumped online there. What did you have to say?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, I want to touch into where you spoke about
it in myotional intelligence, Like often we sort of see
intelligence as you know, just a logical mind the intelligence
of the mind, but emotional intelligence is really helping us
to live our lives successfully. It is not our intellectual
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capabilities that do that. And to touch into our emotional intelligence,
we need to go to the heart because that's where
it resides. And then we can learn from that to
manage our emotions, which I find is an important part
of our lives. Rather than being reactive to, like you said,
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old patterns or even our emotions and become reactive and
then maybe regret what we do or what our attitudes
are like, we can learn to listen to our heart
and go to the intuitive part that tells us what's
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what's the right way to go about things for us
to do, And by listening to that we also take
like you said, Marianne, we need to take out a
moment in the day, and many moments in the day
to stop and go to the heart and say what
are you saying and listen to that. And just by
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stopping and listening to our heart, our stress levels are reduced.
And when they are reduced, they affect every organ of
our body, every cell of our body. It's not just
that maybe our heart rate goes down, but our blood
pressure will be affected, we will feel more relaxed overall.
And once we feel more relaxed, we can gain a
(24:50):
clarity of perception of situations that we encounter. And if
we have more clarity, what will happen is we make
better choices. And the better choices, I mean the choices
that are more appropriate for us and give us the
outcomes that we seek. So going to the heart also
(25:12):
brings us the enjoyment of positive emotions. We've mentioned love
and appreciation as clear ones. Gratitude maybe and just that
will have the same effects as are just described. While
negative emotions, if we're reactive and we were running with them,
it puts a lot of stress on the organs. We
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feel rather nervous, and you know, it puts stress and
we really need to remember that it puts stress on
every cell in our body. And if we don't come
down from that every now and then it can lead
to health problems for sure. And just to mention the techniques,
the tools that the Heart Math Institute gives us in
(25:53):
chapter one to how do we get in touch, you know,
with the heart, And the first step is really to
acknowledge that our heart has that intelligent and how very
very important it is for us to listen to that
intelligence for all our decisions. You know, they're saying, yeah,
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the bit of choices we make, big and small, and
bringing in more creative ways of solution finding. And it
doesn't say ignore the logic you know and what the
brain will give us. Absolutely not, But it says go here,
(26:38):
and often your intuition might just guide you into the
right direction. And he gives a couple of examples in
the book, and one of them, clearly, you know, the
lady stated, if I had listened to my heart, I
would have had a better outcome. I listened to my
logic and it all seemed right and assigned the contract,
but it didn't turn out the way I wanted to.
(26:59):
So there's certainly research on all that as well.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I mean, people talk about how challenged it is
to hear the heart's message different like. People will often
ask me what's the difference between intuition and knowing like
and to how to hear those two voices that are
different from each other. And I often invite people to
trust themselves because I think fundamentally we do know. There's
(27:28):
a part of us that knows, and I think that's
the intuition of the heart. There is a voice in there.
There is, and it may not be coming in words,
but it comes in and knowing, and clearly these practices
help that. But I think firstly, trusting that there is
a voice that comes, and trusting we each have that firstly,
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and that only we know our own truth.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I mean we often.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I had a client this week tell me that she
knew deep down what was right for her, and yet
she went and asked a whole lot of other people
and changed her position based on that. And yet those
other people are not her, and they could not fundamentally
know her truth and what's right for her. And she's
(28:14):
a highly intuited person, and she was in touch with
her heart when she knew the truth of her answer,
but took on kind of extroverted. So I went and
spoke to a lot of people and then took on
their perceptions, which is less likely to come from their heart.
I think that's more likely to come from their logic
and reasoning and their own personal experience and.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Their own lens.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So I think we all need to be mindful of that,
that the truth is within us uniquely, but also how
you know it's a genuine question, how do you amplify
the message from the heart. Maybe my co hosts have
some fabulous answers about that.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Well, leading on from what you were saying just then,
I had another point to make, which I'll make just
after it, but that one when somebody does come to you.
I know when I've asked grandmother, parish you a question,
so often the answer is follow your heart. And for
somebody who may that might not be enough to them,
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or I haven't felt heard. If someone comes to you,
you can, you can ask them questions, because that's another
way to help facilitate someone listen to their own self
if that's what they're wanting, if they're really wanting to
have a dialogue. Sometimes that so people can hear themselves.
So instead of telling somebody what you think of them,
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or what you think of their question, or you think
of what they're trying to decide, just ask gently, ask
questions with giving no opinion, just notice, just acknowledging you've
heard them, so they can keep, hopefully not being so
much in their head. But maybe you could do a
breathing exercise together. Maybe you could suggest drawing. There's other
(29:56):
things that can help drop out of the really the
brain waves that really are about what's out there and
what's in my what's in my logic thinking space. And
the thing I wanted to mention as well is for
all those people who really aren't interested in anything but
looking young and fantastic, or if you're into everything and
(30:19):
looking and being healthy and youthful, the base molecule that
makes quatisole the stressfulmone is the same base molecule that
makes a particular chemical in the body that enhances youthfulness.
(30:42):
I'm not I'm not so keen on the word anti
aging because I don't I don't have aging as a negative,
so enhancing youthfulness. So that's the particular chemical. Now, if
you've got lots of quartisol, then you've used up that
chemical that's also therefore rejuvenating organs and keeping the skin
healthy and all that. So the lower your cortisol levels,
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the more the boost in the youthful hormone. So, irrespective
of anything else, get into the book and put aside
the lotions and potions and see how much of the
internal substance that's just got the short name of IgA
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that will bring back the youthfulness in there. And the
other part of that that they mentioned is when you
care for something or you feel cared for a whole
lot of things change in your nervous system, in your
production of the internal chemistry. So whether it be that
you're fortunate enough to live in a place where you
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have it, you're a pet that you love. I know
Marian definitely does. And Gabrielle's got cats. I have birds.
You may hear them in the background to my I
can't pet them, but they're out there bringing happiness. But
that caring. So quite often if someone is in a
low place or feeling even if they're in a great
(32:10):
job and really well respected and they're just not feeling something,
it can be when they go and volunteer for something,
when they move into a caring for others phrase and
then a caring for themselves face. That's another time when
all of the positive parts that we're talking about come
from the heart come into full, full force internal chemistry.
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Full force care of others and care for self is
a big switch of all good things.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So true.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You mentioned about asking others questions just to help them
warm up to their own truth rather than giving opinion,
and in the freeze frame technique they've got here is
it's about tuning into the heart, which is bringing up
caring and appreciation. And then from that place, once you're
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in that chemistry, then ask the heart the questions and the.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Heart will.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Come up with some answers for you, and so you
could write those answers down, which is some Grandma's always
shared just how important journaling is. And there are times
when I'm really tuned in well that I get fabulous
messages that come through the heart and it's made a
really big difference. It's like a counseling session almost, which
has been Yeah, it's been really good. I was going
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to say something more to what you said, but now
I've forgotten, so I just opened the call to Gabrielle.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yes, sir, I just find it's really helpful in chapter
one the techniques that the Heart Meth Institute described for
us to get more in contact with the heart and
in the process to calm down and you know, reduce
OS traces, which you know will enhance our overall health
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and physically and emotionally. The hardest part I find with
people around me and myself is just to make a
point of stopping. And it only needs to be for
like a minute, Like it doesn't need to be long,
but it needs to be a time to stop all
throughout the day and become mindful and observe what's going
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on inside ourselves. And as grandmother always teaches and I
find so helpful, is going through the breath really helps
with me. And I automatically when I do breathing focus,
I put my hand on my chest where my heart is.
So I've noticed that it's really automatic, and that could
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be helpful for many to just say, you know, many
times a day, just remind yourself to just stop for
a moment. And that's a part of the freeze frame
exercise as well. They say stop yourself for sixties seconds,
and they will explain more in further chapters. But that's
not an easy thing to do when you're in a
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busy life, when you have appointments, when things happen around you.
You know, sixty seconds can seem like a long time.
But the more you practice, the easier it will go.
So to just stop, maybe focus on your breath, take
a moment, and just realize how the relaxation can come in,
how you can allow your thoughts to just flow away.
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And as you reduce your stress, you will become more clear,
and if you can, in addition, bring in positive thoughts
like you know, optimism, gratitude, kindness, care, whatever it is,
that will again affect your level of stress and you
become more calm and positive thoughts. Once you start with some,
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the others will come. It's like they're connected to each
other and quite in the opposite. If you dwell on
negative thoughts and feelings, which we all have, you know,
it's okay to have them, but hanging onto them and
dwelling on them like anger or frustration, that just increases
the stress and perpetuates the imbalance in the body on
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all levels. So after activating our positive feelings, taking some
time out activating some feelings, therefore reserving our energy and
using it in a way we want to, because you know,
if I'm really angry, I use a lot of energy.
But do I want my energy to be expanded into
that or do I want it into other more constructive
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feelings and importance is then we become in control of
our emotions because we stop and observe we don't need
to be on that roller coaster anymore. That kind of
takes us somewhere and off not where we want to be.
And then we can also realize, you know, where we're
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possibly overdoing it in our lives and relax relacts more
into saying what is authentic for me?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
What is it I need to do?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
And where am I at? So I'm a big, big
supporter of what they're doing in finding your calm place
and with that clarity in mind and in body.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I was when you were talking.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I was thinking about what is the difference between thoughts
and feelings? Because some people would wonder, well, I'm having
a positive thought. That means is that what I'm am
I doing it right? Like I'm thinking good things about
my family? Or is that different from what we're talking
about here, which is generating a feeling in the body. Right,
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So it is actually changing the chemistry feeling something different.
So it's bigger than a thought in a way, because
it's a full body experience. You should physically experience the
feeling of appreciation.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Not to think it.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
For this to work, You're feeling it in your body
and that shifts your body chemistry. So then the challenge
of that is, well, what if you're feeling really angry,
how do you suddenly change that to feeling appreciation, and
we know that would help, But then the chemistry of
other emotions is strong can be so then how do
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you shift that chemistry and feel something different. I think
some of our listeners will be wondering and struggling with
that in the same way that we go through that
as well, and my clients go through that. It's like,
how do I turn this around? It feels so real
what I'm feeling. I am that angry with this person,
and all I want to do.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Is think about that.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
But actually, do you really and what's the consequence? I
think stress is a common one in the workplace, Like
it's almost like it's almost culturally approved in a way
to be stressed in the workplace as a way of
validating the work. I don't know what it is, like
why people need to feel so stressed in the workplace.
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I mean, if we're breathing, you know this is good,
and if we're.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Like it's if the thing that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
You're dealing with is not going to matter in a week,
a day, a month, five years, ten years, then is
it really that important that the chemistry has to be
so strong that you feel so terrible day to day
as stressed, So you know, just getting for all of us,
I think, to really get in charge of how we feel.
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And I think you said it, Alloway. It's not based
on other people. It's not based on what they do.
If we can feel peaceful within ourselves in the context
of somebody else's aggression, then we've made it. We're not
victims anymore. And I'm not talking about shutting off and
shutting it down. I'm talking about genuinely feeling it peace
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because it's not personal and because we're in charge of
our chemistry. To me, that's a goal. That's my personal goal,
and I don't want to be insensitive in that, but
I want to be able to manage my own chemistry.
I'm the master of it, so it's only mine to
do really at the end of the day, like it's
all of ours. So it's almost like a spiritual goal
(40:23):
to achieve that.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
What do you want to say?
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I'm just doing lots of nodding with what you're saying
because I completely concur with it and wanted to add
to that as you're saying that responsibility we have or
respond with ability in the book gives us how to
respond with ability as it said, when we change that
internal part, then our electromagnetic field can be picked up
(40:53):
by others, you know, at least eight to ten feet,
it says scientifically, that's what they're picking up. So if
we're in a situation where we find there's you know,
almost like a downward spiral of triggering off other people
and triggering yourself and internalizing and trigger trigger, trigger as
I change. And I've noticed this when I change and
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when my electric magnetic my electromagnetic field changes. As we heard,
my feelings are what makes the difference. So if I've
changed my feeling, that five thousand times more powerful than
my brain. Magnetism of my heart fills that eight to
ten feet for us in Australia two meters, and simply said,
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if you just picture where when you put your hands
out beside you, I know this is only like two
feet each side two to three feet, but if you
just picture that bubble wherever you can put your fingertips
to above your head, down the side, all around. That's
what grandmother Parish has taught us as well. That's your
bubble to fill with whatever emotions, feelings you want to
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and then when you pitch, you're in an airport or
on a bus, or people are inside that bubble space
of yours. What you've into that bubble does have influence
if you want it to. And when you put that
bubble up strongly and fill it irrespective of what goes
on around you, then you have a space. I remember
being as a young child the movie out that we
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had a little cartoon thing a Wonder Woman. It was
on all the time, and I would often think, I
just put my Wonder Woman's shield activate. I would silently
use it at school, I would use it in all
sorts of settings, and that just helped me. I would
activate my Wonder Woman shield. And here we are so
many years later, and it's got the scientific backing of
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what is this Wonder Woman shield or wonder person shield?
Anyone can have one, and it's that tapping into the
heart and feeling that so that we can then have
our eight to ten fields beat space of those emotions
we want, which then changes what's around us and very quickly.
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On the stress point, I also wanted to bring up
on today's call for everyone who's in a business runs
a business in the people and Capability section, this is
so important to bring to your workplaces, as is our
previous book, Nonviolent Communication, but in this one they've even
got examples where they can give you the science in
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this book of where they've worked with particular workplaces and
they've done testing before and after, including testing actual hormone levels,
so it's not just a hearsay or it's actual. As
they said, the math in heart math is there, so
you can either put this in place or talk to
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those who's reponsibility it would be to put this program
in place. And they showed that the people in those
workplaces had a better balance in their nervous system, lowered
blood pressure, increased stress relieving hormones, increase their immune responses.
What workplace does not want that for their people? It's
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better on every single account. So this is a book.
Will come you know, come on the journey with us
through Quantum Leap Book Club and get this put into
your workplaces as well.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
It would be fabulous. Imagine if everybody did that, not'd
be great. And you kind of think when things happen,
even in the workplace or wherever it looks, it does
look like it's occurring outside of us, and we think
it's them that did it to us, Like if we
feel annoyed, we do think it's them because it looks
like it is. But I think it's not so obvious
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that it's still running through our own story. So two
people looking at the same thing would see something completely
different because of the way they perceive it. They're programming
their preconceived traumas and all of that, like it's all there,
projecting the image onto the situation, and so it's not
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independent of us. So in that way, we can just
determine what we feel about it, not think about.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
It at the end of the day. What did you
want to shake everyer?
Speaker 5 (45:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree. It's fascinating. And what
they're asking us to do here is you don't because
because you mention that, it's sort of a challenge. What
do we do because we have all these thoughts and
we're used to thinking things through, and our brain is
so beautiful because it holds all the data, all the knowledge,
(45:53):
we have, all the patterns of behaviors we had in
the past, what worked, what didn't work, these experiences, the knowledge,
and we want to draw on that, and yes, so
we should. You know, it's not saying don't take any
of that into account. But what it says in chapter one,
and especially when they talk about the freeze frame tool,
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they're giving us not in detail just yet, but what
the freeze frame means is how do I manage my mind?
My mind gay trying to find solution with what I've
just described in it's almost leaving out the biggest part
of you know, allowing ourselves to have new perceptions, to
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become really creative, to have insights that all that you know, knowledge,
experience we work with in our brain cannot necessarily give us.
So that's why all they're asking us to do is
considering the heart has such an intelligence and has more
neurance nerve cells the brain. Even let's focus on that
(47:03):
intelligence and take it into account, you know, in our decisions,
because at the end of the day, we all want
to live a healthy life I would imagine, and a
happy life and a successful life. And if that leads
to that, let's let's let's use it. It's ours to
use and in the process of relaxing and destressing, our
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body functions go into coherence. And when things are in coherence,
it becomes harmonious and balanced. And then I can almost
feel an opening up now talking about it. Then we
just get open to to you know, like what I
called insights, and that's all it is about, is saying,
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what do I observe that my brain may not have
given me, Like what is there? They also go a
step further and say, well, then why don't you take
that into tuition and make your decisions from that? And
you know, I leave that to everyone. I've certainly had
very positive experiences when I followed my intuition, but I'm
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learning to do that more and more because it is
a little bit scary, you know, because all that what's
sitting in my in my brain may often tell me differently.
But when you do make when I make a decision
coming from my heart and through my intuition, it feels
really authentic and really right. And that is something I
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go back to.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
And I think the faster we just listen to our
heart and just do it without all the allowing the
brain to step in with all its drama, the better
things go.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
I think.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
The more I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Learning to listen that's what I'm fine, It's okay, I'm
going to end up there anyway. Sometimes we just do
that sooner rather than later, is the point. I'm coming
to now when I hear the wisdom of the heart
come through, and it's really nice to think that within
all of us there is a wise counsel.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
We have a wise counsel within us. That's cool when
you think about it. We're in house with.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Everything we need already, all of us, just by having
a body, a brain, a heart, and the chemistry of
how that all works together, we're in house with it.
The powerful instrument that we have to experience life through
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is right here.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
And in that I just never want us. I never
want us to make us feel less for you know,
you know you hear the kind of language. We're only human. No,
we're not only human. Look how miraculous we are.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Our heart beats four hundred million times, forty million times
in a year, ourselves are replicating.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
All the time like we're amazing.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Actually all of us, all of us humans are. And
how we can create and be in charge of our
own chemistry. I think that's what puts us aside from
other beings on the planet. We have the stability of
consciousness and directing, imagining a future and directing it and
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change and developing.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
And this tool is a powerful tool for that it's
a fast track.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Actually, it's a fast track to our evolution just through
the heart and let the heart teach the brain.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
And so that's a really important point that you make
about how we have that ability to look back in
the history of things and to imagine forward as well,
and that can be both a benefit and a potential
downfall when it is looked at that so many of
the life stresses right now that's been reported to people
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who are worried about a future. I was talking to
someone recently who's working with eighteen to twenty six year
olds that got climate crisis spheres, and the book itself
really does acknowledge that there's a lot going on right
now in terms of change about external environment. Changes in
technology are massive, Our governmental systems are definitely challenged. Religious
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systems are being questioned like no time before. Really, when
we have potential political instability, it's on a global scale.
And being an a ecologist, I'm very aware of the
environmental situations now as well. So anything we wanted to
focus on out there could cause a stress when we're
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looking to the future. Also, you could have a stress
of what do you feel guilty about or wrong about
something that's happened in the past, so any of those
things are not happening in this very present moment. And
almost any spiritual, spiritual person or the master's or religious
base that you go to, we'll talk about the inner
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piece being in the present moment, and the breath and
the heart completely brings us into the present moment. And
one of the techniques I've used from heart math, and
there is ten specific in the book, so journey with
us and have all ten that even when I'm feeling
really not in a harmonious place, breathing with the heart,
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just breathing and imagine it coming in and out from
the heart. And sometimes if I'm on country, I'm near
a tree, I'll go up to a tree and I'll
breathe in my heart and imagine breathing in from the tree,
and I'll breathe out from my heart and imagine breathing
out through the heart. And when I say the word imagine,
I'm putting an image into action. Imagine doesn't mean something
(52:50):
not true. So I put an image in action of
the breath into the tree into me, and this two
way breathing, which is how happening all the time anyway,
but through the heart, and whatever's going on from the
past or the predicted future calms in that moment and unpresent.
(53:12):
So that's a technique so simple. As both of you said,
the techniques are so simple. But any of these things
that bring us into the present moment will also bring
a high level of ability. It doesn't mean ignore what's
going on out there, but it means you can then
respond with action, or respond from your beingness, or you
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can even respond from being different inside, which is then
changing the field around you. So this book is giving
us all those techniques happier in self and effective on
things that are of the global nature. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Powerful to have a tool that you can use just breath,
just to come into the moment and not be so
influent by our past, you know, and our past experiences.
I had a client this week say to me, I
could tell he's changed, and I could see that he'd
developed more compassion. And one of the things that helped
(54:13):
me helped him develop compassion was the fact that he
could see that behind everybody's reactions anger or stress or
whatever it is, there's a story. And often that story,
which we don't know about each other, can be quite
a painful story that they're bringing to a moment, and
so it really has helped him not personalize what other
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people are doing because there's a story that doesn't relate
to them, to us that someone's acting out. So these
tools like you're talking about all the way dropping into
the heart help you just turn off the record of
all those storylines. And I don't think in therapy we're
going to get to all the stories. I don't think
we have time to clear all the stories. Surely we
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can clear some big ones that have a powerful impact
on people, but at the end of the day, we've
got to also choose to make it different now by
just being different and using tools that get us into
a different chemistry. You can talk about some of them,
and it's important too, but some of them is also
important just to it is what it is, and I
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can be different in this moment. It is different because
I'm here now and I'm make a new choice. So
on that note, I'm going to give you guys just
a couple like one or two minutes to share your
last thoughts before we finish up.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
Yeah, it's a Scabrielle. I just really agree with you
and you are overall, it's really we're on a path
to self awareness and self realization, and this is just
another avenue of helping us with that. And self awareness
is so important because we have such effects, our thoughts,
our feelings, what we say, what we do has an
(55:55):
effect not just on us and our body bodily functions,
maybe increasing or increasing stress, but on everyone on our environment,
you know, and in the wider sense, it travels, It
travels like forever, so we have a lot of responsibility there.
So to learn to become more self aware and more
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authentic is really underlying every growth we want to have.
And I'm really excited to learn more about those techniques
all throughout the book, and I've looked up the phrase
frame more and I'm going to start with that today
because I won't wait. And I like how they finish
in chapter one in saying when we develop the hard
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mess solutions and implement them into our every day all day,
we will find a deep sense of inner security. And
that links in with everything we've said, like that, craving
for that amongst everything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
Fabulous, well said, how about you, Eiloe.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
I want to make a point about AI and the
difference between being human and AI because this is a
technological shifting time, and this is not to say anything's
right or wrong. AI can be complementary. I like to
say that the use of the heart and the tapping
into the heart and getting in touch with our intuition
(57:18):
is of such key importance now because while AI pretty
much looks backwards to bring the summary of information forwards,
us as a being has the opportunity to be open
to that which is not yet written down or somewhere
in the past. And that's what we call intuiting this time.
(57:41):
I won't say more than ever, because I'm not going
to I'll just say this time, in this time, this
day and age. As we transition to that and people
going to the chatbots, etc. For their information, it's even
more important that we keep bringing around too our intuition
(58:02):
and these technique strength and our intuition. Also, our schooling
systems have really been focused on teaching information that rather
than teaching necessarily how do we ask questions, how do
we tap into our heart? How do we do interpersonal relationships?
And I would love to see anyone out there who's
in the teaching realm to massively see the switch right
(58:24):
now in that particularly given a lot of the skills
that we're teaching about information will be redundant, so this
is the time to change right now.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
So on that note, it's time to conclude our studies.
We thank you for sharing your time and energy with us.
You matter and count You always make a difference. We
look forward to you being with us next week as
we make that lead to greater consciousness. Have a powerful week.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Our regular host Parisha will not be joining us tonight
as she is traveling and teaching, so her co hosts
will cover tonight's material. We have myself, Maryanne Love from Melbourne, Australia.
We have Alloway from Sydney, Australia, and we have Gabrielle
Thompson from Mount Beauty in Victoria, Australia. And tonight, Trina
(01:03):
Cooper's unfortunately unwell and so is Evely and Uladi, so
both of our co hosts will not be joining us tonight.
Our book this week is The Heart Mass Solution by
Doc Childre and Howard Martin, and we're in chapter one
and so we'll be discussing pages three to twenty three
tonight and we are broadcasting through Law of Attraction Network Radio.
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So let's begin. So this is an awesome book so far.
I love it when we study anything about the heart,
because I find in the study of psychology, ironically, there's
not very much covered about the heart and a lot
covered about the brain. So it feels like a very
understudied or if it's not understudied, it's underspoken about resource
(01:48):
that we all have access to.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And so in this.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Chapter they've laid out some really important points, and I
think one of the main points I got out of
this was the heart in itself is a brain separate
from the brain in the head, and so even if
the heart was severed from the brain, it still continues
to work. And another really interesting thing is the hearts
is sending signals to the brain all the time, So
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we think that the heart follows the brain command, but
actually the heart will make its own decision about what
it follows about what the brain commands. So if the
brain's sending it really a signal to say it's in danger,
the heart won't necessarily respond with a faster heart rate.
(02:34):
It makes its own decision about that, and you know,
it'd be really interesting to know what are the factors
that create the decision that it makes. Why would it
speed up in some situations and not in other situations
when other organs of the body will respond to the
distress from the brain.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
So there's so much.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
In here that we could use, really, and they've given
us and they're introducing some really powerful techniques that we
can apply in our everyday life so that we can
begin to listen to the messages and the intelligence of
the heart. And so what I want to do now
is just hand over to some of my co hosts.
I'd love to hear what you guys have to say,
(03:15):
what you got out of it, and how you're applying it.
So how about I hand over to you first, Delaway.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, I really like what you said about it being
something to study more, because indeed, when we talk about
the heart, typically there's this idea that it's a pump
and it's essential. Yes, but it's essential because it moves
blood around your body. And yet that from the really
old and the book, this first chapter goes into saying,
(03:43):
how so many of the old cultures talk about the heart,
you know, whether it be in Chinese medicine, whether it
be Judaism, Christian all sorts of things have writings that
go back to the heart, saying, you know, someone's working
from their heart, or they really put their heart into it,
or it's really like when it's the central piece, it's
(04:04):
the heart. And then there's a sharing about Chinese medicine
and how and the Yogic practice as well, and how
a lot of those relate back to the heart as
this central part and a part of balance, a part
that then what we're talking about in this book is
the scientific side of it as well, and looking back
(04:25):
to those old cultures, it's always been there an absolutely
not just a key organ, but an organ that really
influences all of the others. And I particularly liked how
you just said as well. The heart has its own
independent brain, its own independent nervous system, and the studies
(04:45):
have also shown that the brain has that ability to
what we would class as to think, to learn, and
to have memory and then influence the rest of the
body's organs because the information of the heart brain or
(05:07):
the brain in the heart sends information via various modes
to the rest of the whole body mind. And it
does it in different ways too. Because we've said the
heart's got neurons in it, it can provide information via
nerve signals. It can provide information in a biochemical way
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through changing hormones through the neurotransmitters that are within that.
It can change it biophysically through pressure waves, and these
are all been shown scientifically. And then some of the
more recent studies is saying, well, what's the influence of
the heart from an electromagnetic perspective, How did the electromagnetic
fields around a heart influence not just the body, But
(05:52):
they're saying, you know, eight to ten feet around the
body already they're being able to pick up that influence
of the heart. So that goes along with Okay, let's
look at where the electromagnetic field is greatest in the being,
and it's five thousand times stronger in the heart than
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it is in the brain. So the whole of this,
you know, why the heart matters for health is really
along those lines of the heart. Is this not just
a modulator, but it's an influencer. It sends information and
the information it sends, can help us manage causal levels,
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can help us with the immune system, can help us
with our nervous system. And what they've been looking at
is the having those positive or desirable emotions of love
appreciation really do create more coherence in the rhythms. That's more,
it doesn't mean that the heart is just a steady beat,
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because that's actually not so good. It's that the heart
is the communicating factor that then the rest is in
alignment with. And if you think of that, sometimes I'll go, oh,
you know, I felt this, but then logically I chose
to do something different that's not being in coherence with
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my heart. So we've got that part about the heart's intelligence,
which I won't cover too much more. But just in
that way of saying, the heart gives us new ways
of thinking and being. That's that way of blending love, wisdom, courage, strength.
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So it's giving us more in there the types of
things that we may traditionally just attribute to our right
side of the brain, the creative emotive side of the brain,
whereas now we're saying, well, these are really components of
the heart. So heart math gives us ways to shift
our attention to the heart, like consciously the heart, and
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the book's going to take us through that, which is
really awesome. We'd be given practical exercises to do, and
it can be around the breath, it can be around
core heart feelings and how to create those and what's
actually happening in your body when you do that, which
is why I love Heart Math even the word Heart math.
He chose to use the word heart because everyone sort
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of knows about the heart and math because it's saying, look,
we do, measure things we do. It's the math word
is bringing in the scientific side of it. So as
we go through our book Heart Math, we will look
at heart and all that's happening and really giving it
that scientific backing. So when you do the practices, you'll
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know I'm doing this because it will have this particular outcome.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Thank you so much, very clear, and what did you
get out of it, Gabrielle.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yes, this is Gabrielle. Yeah, fantastic book and ess so
much in chapter one alone that gives food for thought
and you know, allows us to I was going to say,
think differently, but it's about thinking from the hearts, so
feeling differently.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Really.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
He starts the chapter or the author start the chapter
was saying, like we all relate to the hearts. Or
when they were on a radio show, they had a
lot of ring ins by people when they started talking
about the heart. So that made them realize people are
interested in what the heart is because you know, scientifically,
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when we look up what the heart does, it's kind
of seen in regular science as this element of us
that beats gets directions from the brain on what to do,
and when it stops beating, it means we're no more
scientific facts he shares here is that the heart pumps
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two gallons of blood per minute around the body. It
starts beating in the feetus before the brain has developed.
And I want to repeat these because they really stood
out to me. And the heart can beat without connection
to the brain, which they have shown in and after surgeries.
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So the brain and the heart are obviously connected, but
the heart must have a life on its own. So
they're asking the question. You know, we often say follow
your heart, but what does it mean? And the Heart
Math Institute have found evidence that the heart sends us
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signals all the time that can help us regulate our
bodily functions and also regulate our emotions and our life.
We can improve our decision making. It's so much more
than just the scientific part of what it actually does
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in the body. And interestingly, two, you know, they've found
cases in where the heart because they've followed the scientific paths,
they've found instances where the heart did not follow what
the brain was saying and kind of did an opposite action.
So there is intelligent there. But how do we tap
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into that? How can we tap into the power of
the heart that can actually, according to Heart Math Institute,
help with our health problems, our productivity, our ability to learn,
our quality of life, and our relationships with our people.
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And isn't that powerful? That's certainly what I want, you know,
I want to improve all these areas in my life.
And considering when we look at the world right now,
there's a lot of political, society, societal and environmental stresses
that are dealt with by looking for solutions that are logical,
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that are you know, relate to the data we have,
that are sort of more brain oriented. But how would
it be if we could use our heart's intuition and
find solutions in different ways. That way what I just
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want to share now, because I know we're sharing more later,
is that the fact that they found neurons in the
brain and in the heart, and in fact there's as
many or more neurons in the heart than there are
in the brain. And just you know, to neurons function
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is to communicate to the cells, to transmit information via
chemical and electrical signals. So if our heart has more
neurons than the brain, than what follows is the heart
has a lot of influence of what happens in our body,
much more than was ever acknowledged. And as thus the
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hardest no scene to have a language of its own
and can think for itself, and it is further explored.
I want to leave it at that for now, but
I find that absolutely fascinating and I cannot wait to
read more of the book and find out more.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So true.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
There's so much in here that we can apply to
our daily lives that would make an immediate difference in
how we respond to others, how we.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Enjoy our day to day, how we.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Navigate businesses, how we navigate relationships, like just the simple
techniques there they're going to be teaching us in this book.
And I know that the whole heart math is based
on a whole lot of research that they've done because
they were curious in the beginning about what is the
influence of the heart. It's clearly an influence, and they
really devoted their lives to studying that influence and providing
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some really simple tools. I've used them. They're very simple
tools to be able to turn around our whole physical chemistry.
And if you think about it, like even doctors say, well,
illness relates to the stress levels of the body, Like,
I mean, that seems like such common knowledge, but then
how do you change the stress levels of your body?
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And they're saying, well, simply focus on the heart, and
the heart reduces the cortisol levels in the body. So
he's one avenue for health and well being, isn't it.
Like we can use that the heart's ability to create hormones,
it's electromagnetic field, in order to shift our chemistry. So
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it's a really powerful tool we have at our grip,
you know, right there right in the middle of our being.
We can access it at any time. And I mean,
it's clear nowadays that there are more types of intelligence
than just what people would classically think as the intelligence
of the ability to remember or use your brain in
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particular ways like there are now intelligence described more about
emotional intelligence, and he's spoken this chapter about Gardener's description
of intelligence being not just logical or spatial, it's also musical,
kinesthetic or bodily, and intrapersonal which is self knowledge, and interpersonal,
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which is knowledge of others. So just imagine if we
can manage our emotions, just how much how much further
we'll get in life because we'll be able to handle
our moods, we'll be able to manage our relationship with others.
And there's even recent on that that it's not about
sort of more cognitive intelligence that gets people further down
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the track, it's actually their emotional intelligence. And luckily emotional
intelligence can be taught, so this is something we can
all develop really well.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
And I have you.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Can go online and download there the different techniques they
talk about in this book, which is one of them
was called freeze frame, and the other ones cut through,
and the third one they described in this chapter was
heart lockins. So I think it's worth going jumping online
and having a look at those techniques and buying the
book clearly to get all the research. So there's so
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much out there that we could just apply immediately. If
you want to have a good day, start with the heart.
From the sound of it, what else has come up
for you all the way.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Well, just that I want to make that a bumper sticker.
If you want a good day, start with the heart.
That's pretty great, put on. I love it. And the
other part is that that idea that the heart, as
I started off, the heart is not just a pump,
but also that the heart produces hormones like that's even
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next level, and it produces a particular type of hormone
out of the atrium, which is why part of the
name of that hormone has atriol in it. And the
atrium is that that main vessel that takes the blood
out of the heart and around to the head and
to the body. So right in that part of the
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heart that's right there to put it into the blood
that goes everywhere, is a hormone that reduces cortisol levels,
so it reduces the stress levels that actually comes from
the heart. This hormone has also been found to help
regulate nervous system, and just from those two components, it's
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pretty amazing. But in addition to that, they're found that
that particular hormone from the heart also produces serotonin and dopamine,
which makes you happy. So just the heart of its own,
we've talked about it having neurons, we've talked about it
having that ability to have the sort of feedback, and
of course the pump that's known to be, but now
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also that it has the ability to create this most
beautiful hormone that does lots of things that we want.
Decrease stress, increase the happy hormones of serotonin and dopamine,
and that reducing of cortisol levels as you mentioned earlier.
So much of health is linked to You have much
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better health when you have less stress. And stress doesn't
necessarily mean what's happening to you. Yes, you can be
affected by your surrounds. But you'll see people in all
sorts of environments in the world, all sorts of things
going on, and they'll have different levels of stress. So
stress isn't something where you just say, well, when that's finished,
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or when I move here, or when I get away
from there, because we'll always take ourselves with us. So
the real way to manage stresses is, yes, help make
your external environment as delightful as it can be. Powerfully
how do we come into a space where we're producing
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more of that chemistry. That's all the things that bring
up health and decrease stresses. And it's right there in the.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Heart, absolutely, And they talk about techniques that are not
that hard to do, really like focus on the heart
and bring up a feeling of appreciation or care. You know,
it's doable. Like we've all had experiences where we could
think about something we are grateful for, or even a pet,
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or we could look at nature, like there's a place
you could go where you could generate the feeling of
appreciation or care or love or kindness. And so the
techniques are not out of each of our realm, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I think we can all achieve the techniques.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
It would be a matter of practice and making them
front of mind. So doing them enough so that when
the chips are down and you really need them, it's
right there, Like it will take a second because you
practice it so much, it'll take no time to bring
up a.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Feeling of appreciation.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
And I like what he's what they're talking about, which
is once you've got the heart in that place, then
it is a source of wisdom. It will shoot messages
up to the brain, and I've heard grandmother share about that.
I remember when we did another book that just talked
about the heart and the brain, and it spoke about
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us being precognitive, which meant that we knew what was
going to happen before it happened. It was like a
long time before, maybe eight seconds before they could tell
a someone's going to press the red button and not
the blue button, for example. And Grandmother shared at that
time that the message has come in through the heart
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and then up from the heart to the brain. So
that's how we're precognitive, and so you know, and that's
just such an interesting perspective, like it's so different. We
think we know it through our brain, and yet it's
through the heart that the information is coming through and
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already knows it ahead of our brain. So it does
make you wonder what is the greater intelligence of all
of it, and how can we use it to influence
our brain to go in the direction like our thoughts.
How I see it and how it's been researched is
that our thoughts are simply the programs of our history
and our experience. So what we're thinking is a lot
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of what we've put in. It's a lot of our history,
it's a lot of our family.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Staff, it's our old stuff. So if you want to
have a.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
New thought to override the record, then we would need
new influence. And this says to me the heart is
the one that's going to override all that programming. Get
in a good space and a lot of your thoughts
change anyway. I mean, we all know that once we're
in a positive space, we think differently, Like you just
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don't notice the same things. Are they even like this?
Not in this book. In other books we've read, they've
even taken research of depressed people and shown them as
many funeral pictures as wedding pictures, And people who are
depressed will see more funeral pictures than wedding pictures, even
if they're exactly the same, and vice versa. It's all
a matter of perception, and our emotions are such a
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big part of how we perceive our reality, and this
is one avenue to shift emotion.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I did notice.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Gabrielle jumped online there. What did you have to say?
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, I want to touch into where you spoke about
it in myotional intelligence, Like often we sort of see
intelligence as you know, just a logical mind the intelligence
of the mind, but emotional intelligence is really helping us
to live our lives successfully. It is not our intellectual
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capabilities that do that. And to touch into our emotional intelligence,
we need to go to the heart because that's where
it resides. And then we can learn from that to
manage our emotions, which I find is an important part
of our lives. Rather than being reactive to, like you said,
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old patterns or even our emotions and become reactive and
then maybe regret what we do or what our attitudes
are like, we can learn to listen to our heart
and go to the intuitive part that tells us what's
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what's the right way to go about things for us
to do, And by listening to that we also take
like you said, Marianne, we need to take out a
moment in the day, and many moments in the day
to stop and go to the heart and say what
are you saying and listen to that. And just by
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stopping and listening to our heart, our stress levels are reduced.
And when they are reduced, they affect every organ of
our body, every cell of our body. It's not just
that maybe our heart rate goes down, but our blood
pressure will be affected, we will feel more relaxed overall.
And once we feel more relaxed, we can gain a
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clarity of perception of situations that we encounter. And if
we have more clarity, what will happen is we make
better choices. And the better choices, I mean the choices
that are more appropriate for us and give us the
outcomes that we seek. So going to the heart also
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brings us the enjoyment of positive emotions. We've mentioned love
and appreciation as clear ones. Gratitude maybe and just that
will have the same effects as are just described. While
negative emotions, if we're reactive and we were running with them,
it puts a lot of stress on the organs. We
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feel rather nervous, and you know, it puts stress and
we really need to remember that it puts stress on
every cell in our body. And if we don't come
down from that every now and then it can lead
to health problems for sure. And just to mention the techniques,
the tools that the Heart Math Institute gives us in
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chapter one to how do we get in touch, you know,
with the heart, And the first step is really to
acknowledge that our heart has that intelligent and how very
very important it is for us to listen to that
intelligence for all our decisions. You know, they're saying, yeah,
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the bit of choices we make, big and small, and
bringing in more creative ways of solution finding. And it
doesn't say ignore the logic you know and what the
brain will give us. Absolutely not, But it says go here,
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and often your intuition might just guide you into the
right direction. And he gives a couple of examples in
the book, and one of them, clearly, you know, the
lady stated, if I had listened to my heart, I
would have had a better outcome. I listened to my
logic and it all seemed right and assigned the contract,
but it didn't turn out the way I wanted to.
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So there's certainly research on all that as well.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, I mean, people talk about how challenged it is
to hear the heart's message different like. People will often
ask me what's the difference between intuition and knowing like
and to how to hear those two voices that are
different from each other. And I often invite people to
trust themselves because I think fundamentally we do know. There's
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a part of us that knows, and I think that's
the intuition of the heart. There is a voice in there.
There is, and it may not be coming in words,
but it comes in and knowing, and clearly these practices
help that. But I think firstly, trusting that there is
a voice that comes, and trusting we each have that firstly,
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and that only we know our own truth.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I mean we often.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I had a client this week tell me that she
knew deep down what was right for her, and yet
she went and asked a whole lot of other people
and changed her position based on that. And yet those
other people are not her, and they could not fundamentally
know her truth and what's right for her. And she's
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a highly intuited person, and she was in touch with
her heart when she knew the truth of her answer,
but took on kind of extroverted. So I went and
spoke to a lot of people and then took on
their perceptions, which is less likely to come from their heart.
I think that's more likely to come from their logic
and reasoning and their own personal experience and.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Their own lens.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
So I think we all need to be mindful of that,
that the truth is within us uniquely, but also how
you know it's a genuine question, how do you amplify
the message from the heart. Maybe my co hosts have
some fabulous answers about that.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Well, leading on from what you were saying just then,
I had another point to make, which I'll make just
after it, but that one when somebody does come to you.
I know when I've asked grandmother, parish you a question,
so often the answer is follow your heart. And for
somebody who may that might not be enough to them,
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or I haven't felt heard. If someone comes to you,
you can, you can ask them questions, because that's another
way to help facilitate someone listen to their own self
if that's what they're wanting, if they're really wanting to
have a dialogue. Sometimes that so people can hear themselves.
So instead of telling somebody what you think of them,
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or what you think of their question, or you think
of what they're trying to decide, just ask gently, ask
questions with giving no opinion, just notice, just acknowledging you've
heard them, so they can keep, hopefully not being so
much in their head. But maybe you could do a
breathing exercise together. Maybe you could suggest drawing. There's other
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things that can help drop out of the really the
brain waves that really are about what's out there and
what's in my what's in my logic thinking space. And
the thing I wanted to mention as well is for
all those people who really aren't interested in anything but
looking young and fantastic, or if you're into everything and
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looking and being healthy and youthful, the base molecule that
makes quatisole the stressfulmone is the same base molecule that
makes a particular chemical in the body that enhances youthfulness.
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I'm not I'm not so keen on the word anti
aging because I don't I don't have aging as a negative,
so enhancing youthfulness. So that's the particular chemical. Now, if
you've got lots of quartisol, then you've used up that
chemical that's also therefore rejuvenating organs and keeping the skin
healthy and all that. So the lower your cortisol levels,
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the more the boost in the youthful hormone. So, irrespective
of anything else, get into the book and put aside
the lotions and potions and see how much of the
internal substance that's just got the short name of IgA
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that will bring back the youthfulness in there. And the
other part of that that they mentioned is when you
care for something or you feel cared for a whole
lot of things change in your nervous system, in your
production of the internal chemistry. So whether it be that
you're fortunate enough to live in a place where you
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have it, you're a pet that you love. I know
Marian definitely does. And Gabrielle's got cats. I have birds.
You may hear them in the background to my I
can't pet them, but they're out there bringing happiness. But
that caring. So quite often if someone is in a
low place or feeling even if they're in a great
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job and really well respected and they're just not feeling something,
it can be when they go and volunteer for something,
when they move into a caring for others phrase and
then a caring for themselves face. That's another time when
all of the positive parts that we're talking about come
from the heart come into full, full force internal chemistry.
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Full force care of others and care for self is
a big switch of all good things.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So true.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
You mentioned about asking others questions just to help them
warm up to their own truth rather than giving opinion,
and in the freeze frame technique they've got here is
it's about tuning into the heart, which is bringing up
caring and appreciation. And then from that place, once you're
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in that chemistry, then ask the heart the questions and the.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Heart will.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Come up with some answers for you, and so you
could write those answers down, which is some Grandma's always
shared just how important journaling is. And there are times
when I'm really tuned in well that I get fabulous
messages that come through the heart and it's made a
really big difference. It's like a counseling session almost, which
has been Yeah, it's been really good. I was going
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to say something more to what you said, but now
I've forgotten, so I just opened the call to Gabrielle.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
Yes, sir, I just find it's really helpful in chapter
one the techniques that the Heart Meth Institute described for
us to get more in contact with the heart and
in the process to calm down and you know, reduce
OS traces, which you know will enhance our overall health
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and physically and emotionally. The hardest part I find with
people around me and myself is just to make a
point of stopping. And it only needs to be for
like a minute, Like it doesn't need to be long,
but it needs to be a time to stop all
throughout the day and become mindful and observe what's going
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on inside ourselves. And as grandmother always teaches and I
find so helpful, is going through the breath really helps
with me. And I automatically when I do breathing focus,
I put my hand on my chest where my heart is.
So I've noticed that it's really automatic, and that could
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be helpful for many to just say, you know, many
times a day, just remind yourself to just stop for
a moment. And that's a part of the freeze frame
exercise as well. They say stop yourself for sixties seconds,
and they will explain more in further chapters. But that's
not an easy thing to do when you're in a
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busy life, when you have appointments, when things happen around you.
You know, sixty seconds can seem like a long time.
But the more you practice, the easier it will go.
So to just stop, maybe focus on your breath, take
a moment, and just realize how the relaxation can come in,
how you can allow your thoughts to just flow away.
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And as you reduce your stress, you will become more clear,
and if you can, in addition, bring in positive thoughts
like you know, optimism, gratitude, kindness, care, whatever it is,
that will again affect your level of stress and you
become more calm and positive thoughts. Once you start with some,
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the others will come. It's like they're connected to each
other and quite in the opposite. If you dwell on
negative thoughts and feelings, which we all have, you know,
it's okay to have them, but hanging onto them and
dwelling on them like anger or frustration, that just increases
the stress and perpetuates the imbalance in the body on
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all levels. So after activating our positive feelings, taking some
time out activating some feelings, therefore reserving our energy and
using it in a way we want to, because you know,
if I'm really angry, I use a lot of energy.
But do I want my energy to be expanded into
that or do I want it into other more constructive
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feelings and importance is then we become in control of
our emotions because we stop and observe we don't need
to be on that roller coaster anymore. That kind of
takes us somewhere and off not where we want to be.
And then we can also realize, you know, where we're
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possibly overdoing it in our lives and relax relacts more
into saying what is authentic for me?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
What is it I need to do?
Speaker 5 (37:07):
And where am I at? So I'm a big, big
supporter of what they're doing in finding your calm place
and with that clarity in mind and in body.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I was when you were talking.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I was thinking about what is the difference between thoughts
and feelings? Because some people would wonder, well, I'm having
a positive thought. That means is that what I'm am
I doing it right? Like I'm thinking good things about
my family? Or is that different from what we're talking
about here, which is generating a feeling in the body. Right,
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So it is actually changing the chemistry feeling something different.
So it's bigger than a thought in a way, because
it's a full body experience. You should physically experience the
feeling of appreciation.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Not to think it.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
For this to work, You're feeling it in your body
and that shifts your body chemistry. So then the challenge
of that is, well, what if you're feeling really angry,
how do you suddenly change that to feeling appreciation, and
we know that would help, But then the chemistry of
other emotions is strong can be so then how do
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you shift that chemistry and feel something different. I think
some of our listeners will be wondering and struggling with
that in the same way that we go through that
as well, and my clients go through that. It's like,
how do I turn this around? It feels so real
what I'm feeling. I am that angry with this person,
and all I want to do.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Is think about that.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
But actually, do you really and what's the consequence? I
think stress is a common one in the workplace, Like
it's almost like it's almost culturally approved in a way
to be stressed in the workplace as a way of
validating the work. I don't know what it is, like
why people need to feel so stressed in the workplace.
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I mean, if we're breathing, you know this is good,
and if we're.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Like it's if the thing that.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
You're dealing with is not going to matter in a week,
a day, a month, five years, ten years, then is
it really that important that the chemistry has to be
so strong that you feel so terrible day to day
as stressed, So you know, just getting for all of us,
I think, to really get in charge of how we feel.
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And I think you said it, Alloway. It's not based
on other people. It's not based on what they do.
If we can feel peaceful within ourselves in the context
of somebody else's aggression, then we've made it. We're not
victims anymore. And I'm not talking about shutting off and
shutting it down. I'm talking about genuinely feeling it peace
(40:00):
because it's not personal and because we're in charge of
our chemistry. To me, that's a goal. That's my personal goal,
and I don't want to be insensitive in that, but
I want to be able to manage my own chemistry.
I'm the master of it, so it's only mine to
do really at the end of the day, like it's
all of ours. So it's almost like a spiritual goal
(40:23):
to achieve that.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
What do you want to say?
Speaker 4 (40:30):
I'm just doing lots of nodding with what you're saying
because I completely concur with it and wanted to add
to that as you're saying that responsibility we have or
respond with ability in the book gives us how to
respond with ability as it said, when we change that
internal part, then our electromagnetic field can be picked up
(40:53):
by others, you know, at least eight to ten feet,
it says scientifically, that's what they're picking up. So if
we're in a situation where we find there's you know,
almost like a downward spiral of triggering off other people
and triggering yourself and internalizing and trigger trigger, trigger as
I change. And I've noticed this when I change and
(41:17):
when my electric magnetic my electromagnetic field changes. As we heard,
my feelings are what makes the difference. So if I've
changed my feeling, that five thousand times more powerful than
my brain. Magnetism of my heart fills that eight to
ten feet for us in Australia two meters, and simply said,
(41:43):
if you just picture where when you put your hands
out beside you, I know this is only like two
feet each side two to three feet, but if you
just picture that bubble wherever you can put your fingertips
to above your head, down the side, all around. That's
what grandmother Parish has taught us as well. That's your
bubble to fill with whatever emotions, feelings you want to
(42:07):
and then when you pitch, you're in an airport or
on a bus, or people are inside that bubble space
of yours. What you've into that bubble does have influence
if you want it to. And when you put that
bubble up strongly and fill it irrespective of what goes
on around you, then you have a space. I remember
being as a young child the movie out that we
(42:30):
had a little cartoon thing a Wonder Woman. It was
on all the time, and I would often think, I
just put my Wonder Woman's shield activate. I would silently
use it at school, I would use it in all
sorts of settings, and that just helped me. I would
activate my Wonder Woman shield. And here we are so
many years later, and it's got the scientific backing of
(42:52):
what is this Wonder Woman shield or wonder person shield?
Anyone can have one, and it's that tapping into the
heart and feeling that so that we can then have
our eight to ten fields beat space of those emotions
we want, which then changes what's around us and very quickly.
(43:14):
On the stress point, I also wanted to bring up
on today's call for everyone who's in a business runs
a business in the people and Capability section, this is
so important to bring to your workplaces, as is our
previous book, Nonviolent Communication, but in this one they've even
got examples where they can give you the science in
(43:37):
this book of where they've worked with particular workplaces and
they've done testing before and after, including testing actual hormone levels,
so it's not just a hearsay or it's actual. As
they said, the math in heart math is there, so
you can either put this in place or talk to
(43:59):
those who's reponsibility it would be to put this program
in place. And they showed that the people in those
workplaces had a better balance in their nervous system, lowered
blood pressure, increased stress relieving hormones, increase their immune responses.
What workplace does not want that for their people? It's
(44:23):
better on every single account. So this is a book.
Will come you know, come on the journey with us
through Quantum Leap Book Club and get this put into
your workplaces as well.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
It would be fabulous. Imagine if everybody did that, not'd
be great. And you kind of think when things happen,
even in the workplace or wherever it looks, it does
look like it's occurring outside of us, and we think
it's them that did it to us, Like if we
feel annoyed, we do think it's them because it looks
like it is. But I think it's not so obvious
(44:57):
that it's still running through our own story. So two
people looking at the same thing would see something completely
different because of the way they perceive it. They're programming
their preconceived traumas and all of that, like it's all there,
projecting the image onto the situation, and so it's not
(45:18):
independent of us. So in that way, we can just
determine what we feel about it, not think about.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
It at the end of the day. What did you
want to shake everyer?
Speaker 5 (45:29):
Yeah, yeah, no, I totally agree. It's fascinating. And what
they're asking us to do here is you don't because
because you mention that, it's sort of a challenge. What
do we do because we have all these thoughts and
we're used to thinking things through, and our brain is
so beautiful because it holds all the data, all the knowledge,
(45:53):
we have, all the patterns of behaviors we had in
the past, what worked, what didn't work, these experiences, the knowledge,
and we want to draw on that, and yes, so
we should. You know, it's not saying don't take any
of that into account. But what it says in chapter one,
and especially when they talk about the freeze frame tool,
(46:16):
they're giving us not in detail just yet, but what
the freeze frame means is how do I manage my mind?
My mind gay trying to find solution with what I've
just described in it's almost leaving out the biggest part
of you know, allowing ourselves to have new perceptions, to
(46:37):
become really creative, to have insights that all that you know, knowledge,
experience we work with in our brain cannot necessarily give us.
So that's why all they're asking us to do is
considering the heart has such an intelligence and has more
neurance nerve cells the brain. Even let's focus on that
(47:03):
intelligence and take it into account, you know, in our decisions,
because at the end of the day, we all want
to live a healthy life I would imagine, and a
happy life and a successful life. And if that leads
to that, let's let's let's use it. It's ours to
use and in the process of relaxing and destressing, our
(47:28):
body functions go into coherence. And when things are in coherence,
it becomes harmonious and balanced. And then I can almost
feel an opening up now talking about it. Then we
just get open to to you know, like what I
called insights, and that's all it is about, is saying,
(47:49):
what do I observe that my brain may not have
given me, Like what is there? They also go a
step further and say, well, then why don't you take
that into tuition and make your decisions from that? And
you know, I leave that to everyone. I've certainly had
very positive experiences when I followed my intuition, but I'm
(48:11):
learning to do that more and more because it is
a little bit scary, you know, because all that what's
sitting in my in my brain may often tell me differently.
But when you do make when I make a decision
coming from my heart and through my intuition, it feels
really authentic and really right. And that is something I
(48:33):
go back to.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
And I think the faster we just listen to our
heart and just do it without all the allowing the
brain to step in with all its drama, the better
things go.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
I think.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
The more I'm.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Learning to listen that's what I'm fine, It's okay, I'm
going to end up there anyway. Sometimes we just do
that sooner rather than later, is the point. I'm coming
to now when I hear the wisdom of the heart
come through, and it's really nice to think that within
all of us there is a wise counsel.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
We have a wise counsel within us. That's cool when
you think about it. We're in house with.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Everything we need already, all of us, just by having
a body, a brain, a heart, and the chemistry of
how that all works together, we're in house with it.
The powerful instrument that we have to experience life through
(49:29):
is right here.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
And in that I just never want us. I never
want us to make us feel less for you know,
you know you hear the kind of language. We're only human. No,
we're not only human. Look how miraculous we are.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Our heart beats four hundred million times, forty million times
in a year, ourselves are replicating.
Speaker 3 (49:52):
All the time like we're amazing.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Actually all of us, all of us humans are. And
how we can create and be in charge of our
own chemistry. I think that's what puts us aside from
other beings on the planet. We have the stability of
consciousness and directing, imagining a future and directing it and
(50:16):
change and developing.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
And this tool is a powerful tool for that it's
a fast track.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Actually, it's a fast track to our evolution just through
the heart and let the heart teach the brain.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
And so that's a really important point that you make
about how we have that ability to look back in
the history of things and to imagine forward as well,
and that can be both a benefit and a potential
downfall when it is looked at that so many of
the life stresses right now that's been reported to people
(50:55):
who are worried about a future. I was talking to
someone recently who's working with eighteen to twenty six year
olds that got climate crisis spheres, and the book itself
really does acknowledge that there's a lot going on right
now in terms of change about external environment. Changes in
technology are massive, Our governmental systems are definitely challenged. Religious
(51:20):
systems are being questioned like no time before. Really, when
we have potential political instability, it's on a global scale.
And being an a ecologist, I'm very aware of the
environmental situations now as well. So anything we wanted to
focus on out there could cause a stress when we're
(51:43):
looking to the future. Also, you could have a stress
of what do you feel guilty about or wrong about
something that's happened in the past, so any of those
things are not happening in this very present moment. And
almost any spiritual, spiritual person or the master's or religious
base that you go to, we'll talk about the inner
(52:04):
piece being in the present moment, and the breath and
the heart completely brings us into the present moment. And
one of the techniques I've used from heart math, and
there is ten specific in the book, so journey with
us and have all ten that even when I'm feeling
really not in a harmonious place, breathing with the heart,
(52:30):
just breathing and imagine it coming in and out from
the heart. And sometimes if I'm on country, I'm near
a tree, I'll go up to a tree and I'll
breathe in my heart and imagine breathing in from the tree,
and I'll breathe out from my heart and imagine breathing
out through the heart. And when I say the word imagine,
I'm putting an image into action. Imagine doesn't mean something
(52:50):
not true. So I put an image in action of
the breath into the tree into me, and this two
way breathing, which is how happening all the time anyway,
but through the heart, and whatever's going on from the
past or the predicted future calms in that moment and unpresent.
(53:12):
So that's a technique so simple. As both of you said,
the techniques are so simple. But any of these things
that bring us into the present moment will also bring
a high level of ability. It doesn't mean ignore what's
going on out there, but it means you can then
respond with action, or respond from your beingness, or you
(53:35):
can even respond from being different inside, which is then
changing the field around you. So this book is giving
us all those techniques happier in self and effective on
things that are of the global nature. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Powerful to have a tool that you can use just breath,
just to come into the moment and not be so
influent by our past, you know, and our past experiences.
I had a client this week say to me, I
could tell he's changed, and I could see that he'd
developed more compassion. And one of the things that helped
(54:13):
me helped him develop compassion was the fact that he
could see that behind everybody's reactions anger or stress or
whatever it is, there's a story. And often that story,
which we don't know about each other, can be quite
a painful story that they're bringing to a moment, and
so it really has helped him not personalize what other
(54:34):
people are doing because there's a story that doesn't relate
to them, to us that someone's acting out. So these
tools like you're talking about all the way dropping into
the heart help you just turn off the record of
all those storylines. And I don't think in therapy we're
going to get to all the stories. I don't think
we have time to clear all the stories. Surely we
(54:58):
can clear some big ones that have a powerful impact
on people, but at the end of the day, we've
got to also choose to make it different now by
just being different and using tools that get us into
a different chemistry. You can talk about some of them,
and it's important too, but some of them is also
important just to it is what it is, and I
(55:20):
can be different in this moment. It is different because
I'm here now and I'm make a new choice. So
on that note, I'm going to give you guys just
a couple like one or two minutes to share your
last thoughts before we finish up.
Speaker 5 (55:34):
Yeah, it's a Scabrielle. I just really agree with you
and you are overall, it's really we're on a path
to self awareness and self realization, and this is just
another avenue of helping us with that. And self awareness
is so important because we have such effects, our thoughts,
our feelings, what we say, what we do has an
(55:55):
effect not just on us and our body bodily functions,
maybe increasing or increasing stress, but on everyone on our environment,
you know, and in the wider sense, it travels, It
travels like forever, so we have a lot of responsibility there.
So to learn to become more self aware and more
(56:16):
authentic is really underlying every growth we want to have.
And I'm really excited to learn more about those techniques
all throughout the book, and I've looked up the phrase
frame more and I'm going to start with that today
because I won't wait. And I like how they finish
in chapter one in saying when we develop the hard
(56:38):
mess solutions and implement them into our every day all day,
we will find a deep sense of inner security. And
that links in with everything we've said, like that, craving
for that amongst everything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (56:52):
Fabulous, well said, how about you, Eiloe.
Speaker 4 (56:56):
I want to make a point about AI and the
difference between being human and AI because this is a
technological shifting time, and this is not to say anything's
right or wrong. AI can be complementary. I like to
say that the use of the heart and the tapping
into the heart and getting in touch with our intuition
(57:18):
is of such key importance now because while AI pretty
much looks backwards to bring the summary of information forwards,
us as a being has the opportunity to be open
to that which is not yet written down or somewhere
in the past. And that's what we call intuiting this time.
(57:41):
I won't say more than ever, because I'm not going
to I'll just say this time, in this time, this
day and age. As we transition to that and people
going to the chatbots, etc. For their information, it's even
more important that we keep bringing around too our intuition
(58:02):
and these technique strength and our intuition. Also, our schooling
systems have really been focused on teaching information that rather
than teaching necessarily how do we ask questions, how do
we tap into our heart? How do we do interpersonal relationships?
And I would love to see anyone out there who's
in the teaching realm to massively see the switch right
(58:24):
now in that particularly given a lot of the skills
that we're teaching about information will be redundant, so this
is the time to change right now.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (58:36):
So on that note, it's time to conclude our studies.
We thank you for sharing your time and energy with us.
You matter and count You always make a difference. We
look forward to you being with us next week as
we make that lead to greater consciousness. Have a powerful week.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Oh see, thank you for listening to Quantum Leak book Club.
For more information where you can contact us, go to
lay Radio Network dot com, forward slash, Quantum hyphen Leek.
Have a great week.
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