“The Jazz Philosopher" John Novello - Guest Psychic Medium Concetta Bertoldi

John Novello guest was Concetta Bertoldi, NT Times bestselling author and psychic medium.
They discussed her experiences with mediumship and spiritual communication, sharing personal stories about her
abilities and the challenges mediums face in receiving and delivering messages from the other side. They explored various spiritual
concepts including life after death, reincarnation, and the Oversoul, while discussing how individuals can maintain
connections with higher powers and spiritual guides during their earthly journeys. The
conversation concluded with discussions about the reliability of mediumship, the role of pre-birth agreements and free will, 
and the importance of living authentically while trusting in the spiritual process.
Contact https://concettabertoldi.com
https://www.loaradionetwork.com/johnnovello

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Law of Attraction Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome to manifesting your dreams. Join renowned Grammy Award winner,
jazz pianist and Amazon number one best selling author John Novello.
Each week as he uncovers the secrets of the Invisible Architect,
the quantum intelligent energy that permeates everything even us. Discover
how to tap into this inner power to use it

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to design the perfect life you deserve. The Invisible Architect
as Within So Without is your guide to achieving your
dream life. And now here's your host, the jazz philosopher
John Novello.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hi, everybody, it's John Novello, the Jazz Philosopher here. Welcome
to my Invisible Architect As Within Without weekly radio podcast
on the incredible Law of Attraction Radio Network, which I'm
very excited to be on. I learned a long time
ago that true enlightenment is really only achieved through service
to others. So the first part of this lifetime I

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served others and entertained those with my God given musical
talents as a composer and performer of jazz piano. But
I never figured in my toilight years that I'd be
directly helping people as a personal and spiritual servant of
the Creator, who I have named The Invisible Architect based
off of my Amazon book The Invisible Architect, How to

(01:25):
Design Your Perfect Life from Within. But nevertheless, here we
are and so welcome all listeners, and especially a big
welcome to all new listeners.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Now I'm really.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Excited today about today's guests for a couple of reasons. Hey,
I had the pleasure of talking with her and having
ac session with her about a year ago or so,
and it was fantastic, and so being able to interview
her on this incredible topic of medianship and all kinds
of other things related at it's fantastic. So without further ado,

(01:59):
I'd like to welcome New York Times best selling author
Conchetta or TOLDI a nice Italian name on John Devello.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Huh yes, thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And she's a gifted medium, psychic medium which we'll discuss,
globally renowned for sharing her heartfelt messages from the other side.
And we're gonna and she's got I think what three
or four books out, the first one, by the way,
your titles are very good. Her first book, I think
was do Dead People watch you shower and other questions

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you've been all but dying to ask a medium? And
that hit the New York Times bestseller in two thousand
and eight. She followed that with a sequel, do dead
people walk their dogs? Questions you'd ask a medium if
you had a chance. And I haven't read your third book.
I think it's called Inside the Other Side? Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yes, another fantastic name. I can't read it.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
So I read that you were I didn't know this
before you were born with the inability.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
To hear in one ear.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And but I mentioned, did you know I wrote a
fourth book?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I didn't. What's the fourth book?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's called I Kissed the Ghosts and I liked it.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Ah, another great name.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, let's welcome to the podcast officially, conchettu Er TOLDI,
and we're going to have a fantastic discussion about mediumship,
the psychic medium and stuff like that, and pre birth
agreements and soul lessons and reincarnation and how souls can
help us in anything that we get into. So welcome, Conjetta,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Please, you probably told it a billion times, but for
my new listeners, how'd you get started to this? Because
to me, this is like I got started as a
jazz musician because I heard a voice inside and then
I was given talent. But to be a psychic medium
or a medium that had to happen, and you had
to like try to figure out, Hey, what's going on here?

Speaker 4 (03:54):
So what's the story?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Right? I would probably start by saying that I've always
remembered hearing things that other folks were not hearing. I
was just very fortunate because my parents, both of them
didn't criticize or judge or to try to stop me.
They were totally supportive. So that was a real good
head start. And then as life went on, you know,

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I started to realize that what was different between myself
and other people. But the sad part was in the public.
I hit it because I knew, you know, I was
going to be judged or you know, people are mean,
you know, and yeah, a long time ago when I
was young, so it took me a while to be

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able to get comfortable with sharing it with other people.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I just did an interview two weeks ago with Neil
Donald Walsh fame from Conversations with God, and he talked
about how when God first spoke to him and she
was kind of looking around, like what.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Is going on here?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
And then he wrote all these things down on a
yellow sheet of paper and he sent it. Eventually sent
it to a want to tell anybody, because you know people,
if you're saying you talked with God, you could be
looked at a little crazy. And he sent it to
a publisher and the publisher called him up and said, hey,
good news, We're going to publish your fiction book. And
Neil said, no, no, no, you don't understand. This is not fiction.

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This nonfiction. And then the publisher said, you mean you
want me to publish a book about a guy who
says he talks to God. So anyway, it went on
to sell five million records, So go figure, you know God?

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Yeah, well well when when when did you?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
How old were you when you actually got this cleared
up and started to be, you know, do it as
a profession.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Oh, professionally. It took me a long time because I
didn't even know how to go about doing this publicly.
I mean, you know, I just didn't even ever dream
might be in front of crowds. I always knew I
was going to do something in an audience kind of
profession with a mic in my hand. But I didn't
think it would ever be this. I kind of like,

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I'm kind of a want to be actress, I guess,
but this ability was never part of my dream. But
what my brother, My brother passed away in nineteen ninety one, Wow,
passed away. He's the one who came to me immediately
and recruited me so to speak, and said, we need
these messages to be passed on and we would like

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your help and if all you have to do is
agree and will help you. But I was in the mainstream,
working in the mainstream, so I couldn't even imagine how
I would ever do that. So he, you know, kept
at it and said we need your help, and I figured, finally,
at one point, what's the worst that could happen? Because
I didn't know what to do, and I finally I

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said to him, Okay, I'll help you. And then it
was overnight my life totally changed.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Did you even know or understand or even read about
mediumship at that point?

Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, Because you know, it's funny you should say that, John,
because I was always searching for ants as a young person,
because long ago I'm seventy. You know, years ago, there
wasn't a lot in the in the library or books sold.
You know. The best I could find was Edgar Casey
and read everything they had to say about him. But

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it was still something. I didn't think I was that
qualified to put myself in that category. But I went
to the Edgar Casey Institute in nineteen oh, god, nineteen
seventy something. Anyway, I was very young, and at that
time they had some sort of testing that they did
to test your skill. And I started out with like
thirty people and by the end I was myself and

(07:39):
two other people, and they classified me. So I knew
I had something, but I didn't know what to do
with it, you know, right.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
So the first dis kind of communication was from your brother.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You said, well, my brother died in nineteen ninety one.
People that I didn't you know that all strangers that
were dead people around me, you know. And if I
tell you, I didn't even know in those days how
to protect myself. Now I've come a long way, because
now I know how to set up boundaries, I know

(08:13):
how to make it clear that I'm in I only
want to hear those in the light of God. I'm
not did in anything that is not chosen God and
in the light of God. But in those early years,
I didn't even know how to protect myself.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Well, you didn't know who was talking to you?

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Well, I didn't know, and I didn't trust because you know,
let's face it, you know this, there's two sides. There's
evil and then there's the side of God. And the
devil can come at you in all and try to
sway you and try to fool you. And that that's
something that I had to learn to know how to

(08:51):
make sure that that didn't happen to me. I call
them primester spirits too, because there were a lot of primesters,
you know, spirits that when they know that you hear them,
they intercept your consciousness.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
But how do you identify.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Or at least initially, how did you differentiate because I'm
pretty psychic in a different way, not like what you're doing.
But how did you differentiate your own thoughts? And still
how do you do it today when you do a
reading compared to getting the thoughts from the other side,
Because I'm very interested in that.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Well, first and foremost I hear them in my subconscious
it's not my conscious mind, it's not. I'm consciously aware
that they're talking to me and my subconscious and I
know the difference. And we all fluctuate, every one of us,
and human form fluctuate between our conscious mind and our

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subconscious mind. We all do that. I just have this
innate ability to know in my subconscious somebody else is
communicating to me.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
And you know it's not your thoughts and your mind
talking to you. Correct, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
And let me say what I may because you I
love that you know you have disability. Because what I
will say to that is everyone has disability. And it's
like anything else that you try to do. You can
exercise something and get better at it the more you

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do it, the more you practice, the more you time
you put into it, and understanding and educating yourself about it,
all those things. You can become very good at anything
you put your mind to. Well, that's really true. And
this is one of those things because in the beginning
I wasn't educated and on the subject enough to know

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what I know now all these years having spent doing
what I do, because I have now spoken to people
who do what I do, people I trust and know
what they're talking about enough, so that I have taken
great advice in terms of how to differentiate between good
and evil and to protect my thought at all times

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and declare who I belonged to and when I had
I mean, I'm a child of the most High God.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Of it. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
When I was first spoken to, I was three years old,
which is discussed in my book, and it was a
voice that was so amazing. Of course, at three years old,
I didn't have much powers of differentiation. I was sitting
on the living room floor and I'm in my seventies
as well, so you would probably remember the band the
Lawrence Welk Show. Well, my parents used to watch it
all the time. So I was sitting in the living

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room and the according player came on. His name was
Meyern Florin. And the first time I was aware of
that of God speaking to me, of this inner voice
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
You want to call it was. It said, point to
the TV.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
It was this demand, and three years old, I just went,
you know, pointed to the and my parents started talking.
He said, oh, look a honey, he's pointed to the TV,
the Courding player. Maybe he wants to play the according
And so you know, growing up in an Italian Catholic family.
Next thing, you know, I'm taking courting lessons, and then
I realized I didn't want to play the according I
was just looking at the keyboard. I ended up playing

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the piano, and that started my whole career. Had that
had I not accepted that voice at three, and had
it not blessed me with that command, I would have
maybe never. So that means it must be meant to be,
and maybe we can talk about soul contracts and pre
birth agreements later. But somehow that's what happened, and that

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voice has been with me of course ever.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Since, right, Yeah, it's a coincidence.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
No, yeah, So I have a personal question.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Some people say mediums, some people say psychic mediums, and
there are people that are psychics. So out of all
three of those terms, it seems like you all yourself
a psychic medium.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Do you just mean a medium who.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Interpolates information from the other side, or are you psychic
as well? Or explain to the difference to my listeners
if there is any.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Difference, I declare it that way because of the lame.
It's in layman's terms, because people who are not familiar
with the difference would just think you only hear dead people.
But here's what it really is. When you say you're
a psychic, you can predict because you sense predictions. But

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when you're a medium, you can get and sense the prediction,
but identify the person who's telling you. So I really
don't have to say I'm a psychic medium. I would
only have to say I'm a medium, and those in
the who understand this field would know that it's both.
But for people who don't know that it's both, I

(13:54):
say psychic medium because it.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Makes it covers everything.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
It's easier for everybody understand.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, but psychics that get premonitions or telepathic communications that
they may be getting that from the other side, or
they may be getting it in other ways. Right, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think because I don't claim to be a medium,
and I've had communications with my wife and loved ones,
but I don't really claim to have the expertise, and
I would never want to hang up my shingle and
have somebody pay me to do that.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
It's mostly for my own personal whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
That's good. Well, what's the most.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
This is a crazy question, probably since you've communicated so
much to discardent souls on the other side about a
variety of different topics. And have you got any kind
of common sense about when people cross over the veil
of amnesia goes away, because I know when we incarnate,
we have a veil of amnesia most of the time,

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and we don't remember past lives. On the other side,
sometimes things come.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Through djavos whatever.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
But apparently when you cross over that changes and you
go through maybe greeting with loved ones, and maybe you
go through different life reviews and et cetera, and you know,
little bar and r maybe and you decide whether you're
going to come back and if and how long. What
are your thoughts about all that? From having done all

(15:29):
these sessions, you got any information that's sort of commonality.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well, that was a whole lot of what you said,
So they're bought in that question. I can tell you
that when we come here, we have amnesia. Right, go
back to that side. All is made known to us.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Well that's what I just said, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Everything made known to us. So even past lives are
made known to us. The connections of everything that ever
happened to our soul is made known to us.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Because if you incarnate and you remembered all those lives,
while you'd go crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Absolutely, it would be very difficult. However, I believe that
all of us, we all have something in the core
of our soul that makes us kind of remember something
that was from a past life. For instance, you know,
there might be some I'll tell you about myself. I

(16:27):
am very, very interested because I was raised well, I
was actually kind of a halfway Catholic because my family
didn't force anything on us, but we settle Old Brady
Christmas and Easter and all those lovely things. But we
were not like dragged to church and made communion, none
of that stuff. So it was kind of and I'm

(16:47):
very glad they did that because I was My parents
were very accepting to whatever our choices were, my brothers
and I, so I am a very I'm very much
a believer in Christ and marry and those are my
go tos because I have great faith in them. But
I don't discount anybody else's religion because as long as
they do unto others the way they want to be treated,

(17:09):
I'm good with that. I don't like when somebody says
it's either my way or the highway, you know.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I don't think that doesn't work for me. I don't
think when we cross over.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
This able architect or I call it scientifically, the quantum
intelligent energy that made everything since Starre and gets into
this judge, Well, you weren't Catholic and you didn't believe
in Christ, so you're going to go to this bad
place and you did this, And I think that's all
man made stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Who's to say our being faithful to Jesus and Mary
is the one that's right. And we have wonderful friends
that are Jewish, and what are they going to be
left out? Absolutely not? Because you know, I think God
created all religions because I really believe we're here to
love each other despite our differences.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Absolutely. Well, I go a little further. I don't believe
God created any religion. God is spiritual. He created us,
and Man made these different organs.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yah.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
She said that my connection to past lives comes from
things that you have an innate attraction to, like somebody
who was living in Arkansas might have an innate attraction
to like the Civil War, you know, and that they're
so attracted to it, and they have some kind of
memories of something in a uniform or something or you know,

(18:30):
for myself, I have this amazing attraction. When I went there,
I realized I can't get enough of it. I mean,
I'm a little Jersey girl who was raised, you know,
here in New Jersey. But when I go to Austria,
everything about it, everything about it. And I've traveled extensively
in Europe, but Austria, Switzerland, all of it is familiar

(18:51):
to me. The clothes, the way they live their houses,
everything about it, and I feel the most peace and
comfort when I'm there. I truly believe there's something to
that from a past life.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, I don't think that the veil of amnesia is
one hundred percent, and it's contingent to our spiritual awareness.
Like for me at three years old to see the
keyboard and then to have innate talent at the keyboard,
to me, it makes more sense that I probably already
developed that talent and I found this out later with

(19:23):
some past life studies and the memory and the ability
I was either allowed to or it just happened come
through in this lifetime. So what people call talent, Yeah,
but I think it's a lot of work that I
previously did that is now coming into fruition in his life.
Maybe I was allowed as a reward, because I don't
think Beethoven at seven or Mozart at five just all

(19:47):
of a sudden God said, Okay, you're going to have
all This doesn't make sense to me, But if they've
already developed it and the abilities coming through, that makes
a little bit more sense to me.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
You know, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
What is your feeling before or your awareness or experiences
from the other side when people go to incarnate again,
that they sit down with maybe a spirit guide and
review all the different lessons and things that they remember
it and grow, and they come up with some kind

(20:22):
of script. Now we got free will, so we don't
have to do things. But they come up with some
pre birth contracts or soul contracts or agreements and then
try to carry those out to the best of their ability.
What is elaborate on that from your experience.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I absolutely believe all that. I just think that everybody,
every soul is different, and I do believe we are
met with many hierarchy angels and many souls that are
there to help us understand what our lessons were in
the life we just left. And everybody's different. I don't
think that everybody comes back right away, but I'm sure

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there are souls that do come back right away. And
I'm also sure if some souls that are not ready
to come back right away, they might take a much
longer time. And I'm not quite sure because I'm not there.
I just know from what I've heard from them, right.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
That's what I'm asking you, like, what kind of things
have you heard from them?

Speaker 1 (21:17):
We are met with many, many hierarchy angels that have
a really good handle on what to advise us and
their idea of what our next mission should be to
come to Earth, because we're all here on a mission.
We're all here, you know, to give and to learn,
and there's so much more happening. We're going through life

(21:41):
at such a speed here that we don't even realize
it on a day to day basis, all the changes
that we are experiencing or all the changes and all
the things we're giving to other people, whether it be good, bad,
or indifferent. So I think what happens is when we
get there, we're met. And I know this because they've
made it clear to me that you will get help.

(22:03):
We get help when we're on that side. For case,
maybe you know, if there's somebody who had a very horrible,
horrific childhood and adulthood and they are they just go
through a horrible existence here on earth. I'm told that
on that side there is help for them. It's better
than probably some therapists that we would ever dream of here,

(22:26):
because yeah, and they are very much there to help
a person, whatever their case may be, to understand what happened,
why it happened, and their part in it, and so
forth and so on. And then they go from there
to figure out would you want to come back, and
would you want to come back knowing the person you
were either an enemy too, and see if you can

(22:47):
work it out the next lifetime. I mean, it's so big,
and I'm too small. I would never put myself in
some high position to say that I know it all,
but I certainly have great faith in it.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Right, And so do you believe or have experiences that
when we cross over that it is very much like
this earth, only in a more etheric way, and you
can still study and do things and grow in that area.
And can you still play the piano or maybe an
etheric piano, or can you still go to the library

(23:21):
and interact and all that kind of stuff, because to me,
it seems like it would be boring if you couldn't.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Of course it possible. Of course you could do all that.
It's perfect. This is camp Earth, that's home. This is
exactly the hard place. This is the place we've chosen
to come for whatever reason there is, and it's filled
with heartache, and it's filled with all kinds of things good,
bad or indifferent. But let's face it, every day it

(23:50):
could be a struggle because there's always something that comes
up that makes us gove a you know what I'm saying.
But here's the deal. We chose it. We're here for
a reason. We got to trust it. And what I
advise people to do is always just stay plugged into God.
That's your safety net. That's the thing. It's not always

(24:11):
easy because some things get really rough, but if you
stay plugged into God, it'll be a lot easier than
if you didn't do that.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, and his book Solictine Prophecy.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
You ever read James Redfield's book Cilictine Prophecy.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Well, it's a pretty amazing book.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
It's a novel, so it's fiction, but it's about a
character in Philadelphia, who doesn't feel very fulfilled anymore. He's bored,
and he heard that there's this manuscript in spiritual happening
going on in the mountains of Peru.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
So he goes there.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
To make a long story short, he starts studying various
insights that help him grow and become more fulfilled. And
one of his revelations is just what you said in
the book. The quote is the human human beings have
been insidiously unknowing. He's separated from their true source, and

(25:03):
therein lies all their weakness and problems. And if you
take a look at the world, I think that's exactly
what has happened.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
And you know, oh, I completely agree with you on that,
completely agree that wad stay plugged into God.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well that's why the name the name of my book
is the Visual Architect, which is my name for God.
How to design your perfect life from within, because the
Kingdom of God is within. So the more people that
hook up to God, just like you say, plugging into God,
you've got a fighting chance.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
You know, And I certainly know it's gotten me through
a lot of tough times.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I read another concept a few years ago, and I
believe in this because I'm a very mathematical, logical mind,
and things don't make sense to me. I really do research,
and one was, wait a minute, you're always saying when
I say you, everybody says that believes in past lives
that when you cross over, your loved ones are going
to meet and meet you, and I always, well, wait

(26:00):
a minute, what if they've already reincarnated. That doesn't make
sense to me. I'm going to miss out, They're going
to miss out. And then I've read this one author
I can't remember, and it made sense, and I really
got into studying the concept of the oversoul, which means
we only send maybe a third of our spark into
our meat, body or skin suits, and our real oversoul

(26:24):
stays on the other side, which is why when somebody
has reincarnated, if you go over, you will still be
greeted by your loved one because three quarters of their
energy signature is still there.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Giver run into that concept.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Well, I think I understand it a little differently because
people have asked me that, you know, what if, for
I'll give an example, they're married, their spouse dies, would
they reincarnate before I get back there? Am I not
going to see them again?

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Exactly, So I.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Understand you to mean something like that, and what I
hear is first and foremost. I've heard that God is
so great that we all meet the ones we've loved
and lost when we get out of our body and
go back, no matter how time has passed. And I've
heard that time and time again. So I believe that.

(27:15):
But I also believe at the same time that we
are not separated from them ever, and they're not separated
from us. We are here on our I'll give it example.
Like friends, it's my mother, my father, my brother, They're
all on the other side. Now I'm here alone in
the flesh without them, but I know they're right here

(27:37):
with me. So yes, I've missed them in this lifetime,
not coming for Thanksgiving, but they are indeed with me
always and will be, and I will see them again
when I get out of this situation.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
The yeah, well, exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Like if I mean my wife, last wife is not
with me right now as far as in the flesh,
But if I knew she was taking a trip to Europe,
I knew where she was, even though in the flesh
she's not there, I would know that she's over there,
and they could make a phone call. Well, the same thing.
If she's in this dimension and I'm in this dimension,

(28:14):
but I have faith and experience and knowledge of that,
then the loss is kind of different because just like
you said that one day, you know you're going to
be reunited and if you pay attention, you can have communications.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Right, Oh, definitely. I always say that their signs are
around us all the time and all you have to
do is trust it. But I always say, just set
up some boundaries so you're not fooled. So that means
if you want to see somebody or signs from somebody,
say I want to see signs from you, I want
to see that. I welcome that. But I only say

(28:49):
this in the light of Way, in the name of
God here in my prayer, so that I've set the
rules down. If you're in coming to me from the
light of God, I'm welcome, not you're not welcome.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Right, You're sort of doing your own spiritual filter and
whether God's helping you, an angel, or it's your own power.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
And it works yeah, right for me.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And I feel very good about it, you know, So
I'm not I'm not worried about it. I feel like
I have power over what I do. I have power
over who I hear.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I do same, I do the same thing in a
different way. I have a global macro command that nobody,
whether it's demons, prankster, ghosts, Satan, whatever people's beliefs are,
I give any power to influence or communicate with me,

(29:47):
and it's served me so well. I never have a
problem in that area.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
That's the best thing. That's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Yeah, soul groups. Let's discuss soul groups, because.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
We all end up having various groups of friends and people,
and everything that I've experienced and read is that souls
travel and various groups and possibly also reincarnate at the
same time, and then of course pick up different hats
and different roles.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Explain to me.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
In your own words what your experience has told you
about that.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Well, we come here in soul groups without a doubt,
and you can, if you really think about it, you
can almost figure it out for yourself. Because I'll give
in just a small example. But all right, let's just say, okay,
I'm trying to use one that's pleasant. For instance, you

(30:44):
get married, you have two kids. One kid is just
a piece of cake. You know, you get along. It's
a perfect harmony and family relationship. The other kid is
just not having it, you know, and not choosing your
way and disagreeing every inch of the way. That would
be a perfect example of a soul group, because that

(31:06):
would tell me that in a past life they knew
each other and they may not have gotten along. It
might have been a you know, a friction relationship in
a past life or worse. And now they've agreed to
come back, only this time they come back as mother
and son or father and son, you know what I mean.
Can't work it out this time? Do you see what

(31:29):
I'm saying exactly? That group? That's one small way of
explaining it. But it could go in larger degrees too,
you know. It could be a larger thing.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
It could be a whole family, you know, and it
could be a whole family whose son marries a girl
that they all can't stand. And now you got to
as the girl. You got to try to show them
you have good intention and maybe they don't want to
see it and can't see it.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Right, And apparently different roles have been agreed upon to
be played when the reincarnation occurs.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yes? Yes? And it also has to do with forgive,
not just learning, but just forgiveness. That you might be
in a situation, in a soul group situation where you
have something happens that maybe in a past like whatever
it was that happened, you couldn't forgive, you couldn't past it.

(32:27):
So now this lifetime you're in a situation where something
else happens and you're giving yet another opportunity to do
the right thing.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
You're giving another reason to learn.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yes, and to forgive. And it's not easy because we're
in human form. It's a lot easier when we're in
spirit form, but when you're in the flesh, it's so
it's not easy.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Especially since you don't have all the memory and all
that stuff with you because purpose you don't ask you,
you don't have that.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, you don't have the guardian angels over here talking
to you. But the funny thing is not the funny thing.
But this is true, and you can relate to anyone
could relate to this. You could say, wait a minute,
where was I going with that? You have a guardian
angel on one shoulder and an evil person on energy

(33:18):
on the other shoulder. Don't forgive, don't do it. I
think you should forgive Look at this side, look at
it this way, try to understand they had a difficult
time themselves. No, that's not good enough. You know, you
have this kind of right going on. Yes, And it's
not just you coming up with those kind of thoughts.
There's influence all the time. We've got influence all the

(33:42):
time from the other side, you know. And it's amazing
to me because since I know that, I have an
easier time than other people, because some people don't know that,
and they just go through life being very arrogant about
it and saying I don't care, not gonna You know,
a very dear friend of mine, and she's a wonderful lady,

(34:05):
and she has three kids, two sons and a boy
and a girl, and she got divorced, was a very
unhappy marriage. She got divorced. The daughter said to her
ten years ago, I'll never talk to you again if
you divorce my father. And she never has.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
And she's got two babies now and now now it's amazing.
She's been so horrible to this friend of mine who's
a wonderful lady. And I can see that she's got
no in my opinion, she's got no spiritual identity, because
if she did, she would know the biggest mistake karmically
that she is making right now. And to boom, now

(34:40):
she got divorced.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
We guess what, when she crosses over, she's gonna end
up looking at that. You ever see the movie called
Defending Your Life with Albert Brooks.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I remember it. I saw it, but I don't really.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
It's a comedy with real streep and him, and it's
so good because he crosses over and he ends up
in a courtroom and he has to look at various
scenes in his life and as a prosecutor, and he's
got his own attorney and they got to defend why
he did or didn't do this. And it's pretty even
though it's funny, it's got a little thread of truth

(35:14):
in it.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I vaguely remember it, but I didn't ever see it
in the full thing. But yes, you're right, I agree
with it anyway.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Because yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
We're all given that view when we get back to
the other side. We are all given that view. And
some souls take a little longer than others on the
other side to get with the program, you know, But
there are some souls who go there already ready for it.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You know well that this is my own personal question
that I have never resolved. If we're made in the
image and likeness, why do we even have to keep
coming back? Why aren't we already all perfect on the
other side, and why do we have to go? Well, okay,
I need to learn something now, So I'm going to

(35:58):
go back and go through this this whole game again
and amnesia and challenges and trials and tribulations, and I'm
going to come back and see what I learned, and
maybe I'll do it again.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
To me, it seems like a stupid game.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
I got to tell you, Well, if you think of
it that way, okay, but think of it this way.
Who do you know in all of your life and
all the folks you've met in your life, who do
you know who is perfect?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, but you're talking about the human complex of spare
mind and body talking about. My question is when you're
on the other side and all your memories come back
in your lifetimes, I would think you're more closer to
being more perfect than you are in human.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Form, But you don't know that because you don't remember
being on the other side.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Well, yeah, but when you come over, the question is
why would then now that you're on the other side,
why would then you think, Okay, I.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Need to go back and learn some more. That's the
specific question.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Or you may not even realize that why you're coming
back is to help somebody else.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Well, that's a different at least that's an answer. That's
like a being an avatar to help somebody, not.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Even And there are people who I think are very
highly evolved souls that come to this side, you know,
and they are mission entities. They have a mission because
they're highly evolved, and they're going to make a difference
in the world or even just one person's life who

(37:25):
has not gotten the message over and overcoming back here
and maybe this time they're coming back to help that
one person. You know, we don't have those answers because
we're in human form exactly. Here's where your trust and
believe comes in trust, believe, and have faith. This is
where it all comes.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
In in the process.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Much much more to it than we know, certainly much
more to it than I know, because I never claim
and I always say I'm not God. I just have
faith in God.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
When we had our session last time, you brought up
a term that I really loved called God squad. Explain
God squad to the listeners.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, I call people when I talk to them, it's
important that everyone know we have a God squad on
the other side. And some people might think it's their
parents who passed or whoever their loved ones were, that's
your God squad. But I always make sure folks know
your God's squad is way bigger than you know, and
way more people that you remember. And there's so much

(38:29):
to it because it could be people that you loved
in a past life that agreed to stay behind when
you came forward this time. So you've got a big
God squad. And you might say, people people say these
things to me all the time, Well that was my grandmother,
but I'd never knew her. Well, that out of your
head because she too, and she knows exactly where you

(38:50):
are and you can call her for help too, exactly.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Well, you could even just have a blanket, a blanket
request to your God squad, with maybe identifying.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Right ever turns you on. Baby, that's what's ellible. Whatever
turns you on, as long as you're doing it with
in the name of God here my prayer. See, I
always do that in the name of God here my prayer,
because this is what I believe. When we are on earth,
we are a piece of God. When we buy, we

(39:21):
go back and we become one with the spirit of God,
and that is our choice to do. So there are
people that die and don't choose that. Why I don't know,
but that's why they call them things like discarnate souls.
They're wandering the earth, you know, things like that. So
I always, really in my work, I try to get

(39:41):
as much things in about God and the power of
God as I can because I know the benefit of
knowing and choosing that. Most people want to hear about
their dead relatives. Okay, so I tell them what they
want to know, but I always tell them don't be
afraid to choose God.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Bet Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
So when you request help from your God's squad wherever
decides to help you, isn't it true that since we
all got lessons to learn and we have the veil
of amnesia, that whether it's God or an angel or
a spirit guide or part of your Gods squad, they
may help and may not, depending on what lessons you

(40:26):
still have to work out and learn on your own.
They're not going to take your lesson away and kind
of help you so you don't learn what you need
to learn on your own.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yes, And here's another thing that I tell people in
reference to that. Listen, you didn't come to Earth to
be perfect, none of us did. We came to be faithful.
Have to worry about it because we beat ourselves up
with guilt and these emotions. You know, try to understand,
you didn't come to You're going to make a mistake.

(40:57):
You're going to make a lot of them because you
didn't come to be perfect, but you came to be faithful.
Just stay faithful, because I'm just as guilty as that
as anybody else. And knowing all that I know, I
still make mistakes, and I try to forgive myself. I
try to ask for forgiveness from when I know I'm
doing something that oh God, this isn't a good thing.

(41:18):
While you're but I just know that I'm human and
I'm in human form, and it doesn't mean it's a
great excuse. I just know that I'm not going to
walk around with my head bo because of you know,
because I made a mistake. I didn't kill anybody and
bury them in my backyard because that's where I think
they would draw the line.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Well, that brings me to a question. There are different
schools of thought on this. Just want to know what
you think. There are some schools of thought is when
you've committed suicide, in considering the different ramifications it has
on affecting others, affecting your soul, but so when crossover,

(42:00):
that's a whole different karmic thing. But there are other
schools of thought. Is you're not going to be penalized
as much as you penalizing yourself and you going through
the growth that you need to go through from having
to do that and then go back ask compared to, oh,
you got to get in that line, you committed suicide,
you're probably never going to get out of there.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I mean, what do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I completely disagree with that. I believe that God is
so loving, so beyond understanding, so beyond our understanding of
unconditional love, unconditional forgiveness. We're the ones who have, you know,
on earth, we're the kind of people that says, all right,
if somebody says they're sorry to me, I said, I
forgive you. I'll forgive you, but I know I never

(42:45):
forget that's not really forgiveness, because I never forget it's not.
But God forgives wholeheartedly with all his love. And I
just know that God is too great to take a
person who is in some way, shape or form so
hurt or some bill that they take their own lives,

(43:08):
and God's gonna then say to them when they get there,
now you're not wanting. You took your took a life
I gave you, and you didn't appreciate it. So now
we're not interested. Absolutely not not the God I know.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I'm same too, same with me.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
A god in an argument that I love would say,
come to me, my son, come to me my daughter,
and I love you, and start We'll start from there exactly.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
And I totally well, isn't the story of the prodigal son.
He's been gone, he parties, he takes all, but when
he comes back it's open arms.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
It's not like forget it.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
You can't on one hand say God is love and
then have God operate not lovingly in my opinion, anyway.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
That's right, John. And also you know you got to
remember that we're all you, especially because you've done so
much research and you've done your homework myself. I've done
homework and I've also you know, worked with this subject.
So we're different than a lot of people who are
just going through life not giving a lot of thought

(44:09):
to this right saying, And they have not spent the
hours you and I have spent researching. You know, I
wouldn't say there were bad people. They just get count
they're working to get through this life and every day
and it's not easy. But even with all that you
know and everything that I know, it's still difficult because

(44:29):
we're still human. You know, I still have terrible road range.
I'm like on the road, like just get out of
my way. You don't have to, you know, Like who
told where'd you get your license? I mean, I'm bad,
and I know it's not right, but somebody one time
told me this, And I love this answer because it
really makes sense. Somebody said to me, you know, what
can shadda? You're so used to being in human I

(44:52):
mean in energy form and in energy you could get
from one place to another so quickly that you have
patients for the flesh. And yeah, that's funny, that makes
perfect sense.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I got another crazy answer for you. We're in Italian bodies,
you know, it's like, hey, what do you do? I mean,
you know, it's just a natural thing. Yeah, you go
to that, you go to the supper on Easter and
everybody's screaming and yelling each other. I remember I brought
over one of my friends once and they thought we
all hated each other. And I said, why why did

(45:24):
you say that? He goes, well, you're all screaming and
yelling at each other. I said, oh, no, that's our
expression of our love for each other.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
You remember that movie, Oh my god, it's so Wait minute,
my cousin Vinnie.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Oh, my cousin Vinnie just saw it last year.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Friend who's Jewish, you know, the Jewish kid says, oh,
my parents argue and he said, trust me, your parents
are amateurs. I really love that because he said it's
so true. You know, I mean, we're very, very colorful.
I would say.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
So. I have a mediumship communication question now that I
think to listen to, especially people who have had sessions
with a variety of different mediums. It seems that in general,
it's probably because of the nature of the interdimensional communication.
It's not a very exact science. Most of the mediums
are well, do you have does it resonate with you

(46:17):
somebody whose name ends with an S or and they
get into these types of things, and it's like, wait
a minute, why isn't the spirit who wants to be
evidence and show the person who's the sitter this is me,
because that's going to help them. Are they just incompetent
at communicating or is it the medium who's not quite

(46:40):
adept enough to figure out and decipher this communication, because
it seems like there's a lot of more concepts that
the medium has to decipher it first and then communicate
to the sitter.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
But you're, well, I know, and I only can say
that it's not an exact science, right, I've learned that,
and sometimes I could be off, Like I could I
hear a male figure that I know is male and
he's with a D, so it could be Danny Donald Dominic,
you know. But I can't sometimes get it perfect.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Is that because they're not saying their name though?

Speaker 1 (47:13):
No, No, I had nothing to do with that. It
has to do with it's a very hard thing to
explain how I hear these folks. It's not an exact science.
It's not like a Verizon phone call. No, I just
can't call up Elvis and say, okay, Elvis, how you doing?
And you know, Priscilla wants to know where you left
the ring that you well, but you know your classroom. No,

(47:34):
it's not an exact science. I am limited. I always
know I'm limited. But some of the information if you
look at for me, if I look at the information
as a whole, I would say that sometimes forty percent
of it is pretty darn accurate, and sixty percent of
it is showing me memories. They're showing me things that

(47:57):
they would hopefully wreck my subject would wreck it nyes.
And there might be like three or four things that
are really mind blowing that make So it's not an
exact science. And I'm never sure. This is what I
tell people. They don't have an idea what it's like.
When I go into do a show an event and
I'm walking into a room where there could be fifty
people or three hundred and fifty people, and everybody wants

(48:20):
a Broadway show. I mean, there's no script. I don't
know this. I didn't have any rehearsal, I don't know
the song. I go to go to each person and
have a Broadway show. It's a very frightening thing. I
have very bad stage fright before I go into an event.
Every time, I worry, because I'm always worried are they
going to give me the information? Am I going to
be looking like a fool? Or they're gonna help me out?

(48:42):
You know? And I pray for her help and I
always ask for protection and guidance. But I never know,
and there's no fact science. I can't be sure. But
there have been times that even myself have gone, holy shit,
I can't believe they just told me that. I can't
believe I just got that. I mean, some of the
information is mind blowing sometimes.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Do you ever not relay the information to a sitter
on a one to one session that some if you
gave it to you, you always relay it though.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I want it to be positive and uplifting. I don't
want to have anything negative in this and I don't
want to hurt anybody I want.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
I would think that they don't want to give you
stuff that would help their loved.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
One, right, No, no, no, there are some souls that
want to set they're hell bent on getting their point across. Still.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
M yeah, well you think once they crossed over, the
loving thing starts taking over.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Thinking most of the time it does, and I shouldn't
say most of the time. It always does with me
because I tell them that's boundaries. You want me to communicate,
you want me to say a message for you, It's
got to be based on this. Keep the devil Satan
away from me, keep me protected by all the hierarchy angels.
These are things I say every single day. M M,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
That's wonderful information.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Sometimes is you know, it's okay, but I would listen,
and I can only say that I've been doing this
a long time, and there's a lot of people who
have faith in me, and I'm so grateful for it.
I'm so grateful that they saw something that they knew
was something there's no way I would have known. Thank you,
Lord Jesus. I'm so grateful for your help. And I
will say I write about him in my books because

(50:17):
there's some of them are just mind blowing, and even
myself who sits there and go wow, I mean, I
could tell you stories that are amazing that even book says,
you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
In George Anderson's book, you know who George Anderson is. Obviously,
He's got a book called Oh what's the name of it.
It's a three word name, ask George Anderson, and it's
a bunch of questions. And the answers aren't his answers.
The answers are from the other side. And it's a
pretty amazing book because all the answers to me seem

(50:49):
to resonate that it really does feel like he's relaying
information from the other side. And he said, unequivocally, no
matter what a human in this form goes through, whether
it was the worst thirty years of suffering from neurology
or cancer or leprosy or whatever, they went through, that

(51:09):
when they cross over and they get their reward of
growth that occurred from it, they all unequivocally say, I
wouldn't have given that up for anything.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Isn't that amazing? Think about that first all.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yeah, when I read that, I just went gave me
goose pimples, and it really did.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
That's amazing. That really is. I mean it's a little difficult,
well not a little, it is. It's a lot difficult
for me, you know, because I'm in human form to
I completely understand that do I believe that? Yes, But
to say do I that I would say that I
don't know, it's got to be really tough, you know.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah, Like he was saying, when they cross over, everybody goes, well, yeah,
I'm glad I'm home, but none of them go, I'm
never going to do this again. That was the worst thing.
I don't know what I was thinking. That vibe he
never gets from the souls that he's spoken to, and
he put that in the book.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
I thought that was pretty.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
That is amazing, and I can understand it. But when
you listen, let me put it to you this way.
We both know there's a lot of horror that goes
on on this earth. We'll do egregious things to one
another or to others, and you hear stories and you
just sit back and say, oh my god. I mean
it happens every day, still happening. And to say that

(52:32):
somebody went through something so egregious and goes back to
the other side and says, well, I would do it again,
I don't know. You know, it's really hard for me
to get in that mindset.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Well, I don't think he was saying they'll do it again.
It was more like.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
There's no regrets because of the reward that they got
when they crossed over. Apparently apparently the amount of whatever
you go through there's a reward that is contingent or proportional.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Well, I understand his I understand his logic on.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
That, and I don't know if that's true. I'm just
seeing what.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Oh either, I mean, I admit I don't know. I
know that. I often say I'm glad I was born
in America. I would do my life again. I mean,
somebody said to me, what would you like to come back?
And I say, me and the same parents and the
same brothers, and I would. I have no complaints. I

(53:28):
would do it again. I just wish I knew over
years what I was growing up.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Oh my god, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
But it was. It was a wonderful life and I
am very grateful for it. And there was tragedies in
it too. I mean, there were things that I really
wish didn't happen or that I could have changed. But
I still am very grateful for everything.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Well, I lost two wives this lifetime, two twenty years
fantastic relationships, but the amount of working towards my divinity
and growth happened from each of them.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
I wouldn't trade.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
As a matter of fact, I had a temptation dream
once about a year after my wife, my second wife passed,
and in the dream there was a non descript I
don't know, I want to say, an entity was almost
like human, but I couldn't see the face. And in
the dream it said, Hey, John, I know you're going
through a whole lot missing, barbed and blah blah blah blah.

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Of course it had my attention in the dream and said,
what would you think if I was able to bring
her back just like she was and she's not in
pain anymore? And in the dream I went, Oh, my god,
that'd be incredible, and I felt the loaded question, and
in dream I said, what's the catch? Right in the

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dream and said, well, all the growth that you've had
since she's gone, you'd have to give it back and
go back to the John Devela.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
You were when she was here.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
And I instantly went no, and I woke up and
I thought, oh my god, that felt like a test.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Yeah, yeah, I felt like that.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
If I would have said yes, it would have been
selling my soul in some way shape.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Or for that.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
Wow, isn't that crazy?

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yeah, that's that's amazing. But I do believe they communicate
with us, even in our sleep, in our subconscious So
I really believe somebody was absolutely having a conversation with you.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Absolutely. Yeah, last question, and then what's your experience and
or knowledge of before we incarnate, before the veil of
amnesia occurs when we do it? How much free will
do we get as far as do we pick our parents,
do we pick our career?

Speaker 4 (55:39):
What can you shed on that?

Speaker 1 (55:40):
I think we pick it all.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Okay, we pick it all.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
And I think that because I believe we have to
make an agreement. Yeah, we have to say, okay, I
agree to this. It's almost as if you were sitting
down with a student council, you know, meeting. The counselor
said to you, listen, these are your grades, these are
your options. You can go here, you could do this,
you could try this, you could try which one do
you want to do? Because you have to make the

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decision and you have to sit back and think it
all over and figure out what would be your best
course of action. And then at the same time, the
student council counselor says to you, I just want to
let you know that if you do this, you're going
to encounter this and you're going to have to try
to help this, and so forth and so on.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
It's right you look at your missions whatever you know.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
It would be kind of almost like if you were
a spy and you were going to go in in
a war zone to get some thing to help mankind
and they said to you, well, here's what's going to happen.
Here's your options, or you can It's what they said
in Mission impossible. It's a mission you can choose to
take or choose not to take.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
You know what I mean, And we will disavow all
knowledge of you if it comes up.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
So yeah, I believe it's it's that big. And I'm
sure as much which as I sound like, I understand
it all, I'm sure there's so much more. I don't
have too I openly admit that, you know, but I
have enough to keep myself satisfied and hungry for more.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Me too.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
But you do also agree, even though we pick everything
and blah blah blah, we do have free will to
say yes or no and change midstream and whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Without a doubt, without a doubt. Right, That's what the
whole part about it amazes me. You know you have
that free will. I made that choice. I made this choice.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Now live with it, and do you believe that if
you've made a pre birth agreement, like, Okay, I'm going
to struggle with money this lifetime because last lifetime I
was very rich, and I'm going to struggle with money
and learn about that. But then let's say during the
lifetime that pre birth agreement's not serving you anymore, that
you can just change that and say, well, if that's it,
I'm done, I've learned it.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
I can do something else now. Well, interesting question is
it is.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
A good question. I'm wondering if see, there's so much
that I would believe would be attached to that. For instance,
you know people, I mean you see it on TV.
They have so much, so much money, you know, five
hundred million, Bryce sand five hundred million, you know, Goldiehorn

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five hundred million, and they what they choose to do
with helping others or if they are just so so
hell bent on hanging on to it and being a
miser and you know, turning their back on Pele. You
know Ozzy Osborne, he just he's worth two hundred and
fifty million dollars. I'm not sure, but I know that

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he did this concert and it raised one hundred and
ninety million dollars and he didn't take one penny and
it all went to charities.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
And that was two weeks before he passed.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Yeah, yeah, you know, he chose And I'm Sharon Osborne.
I saw her recently in a in a interview and
she was saying Ozzy was one of the most generous people.
So I don't believe that going to send him back
to be living in skid row.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
IACTs he chose it.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
And let's says, well, I had a lot the last time.
This time I'm going to live in the gutter and
he wants to help me out. I don't know. I mean,
it's so big, it's such a huge thing.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
It's a huge game with many, many, many variables.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Yes, last question I have for you, what's one loving,
comforting message that you would like to deliver to the
listeners from your experience with working with souls in the afterlife.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
I didn't mean to put you on this.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Right, I don't mind, but I will tell you I
probably have ten things I could think of, but if
I had to pick one, Oh God, that is so amazing. Wow,
what a great question that is. I guess I would
say that try to live your life as best as
you can, that every deed you do is going to

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be written on your tombstone, remembered forever and ever, that
the whole world would know, and would you be proud
of it? So think carefully on what you would do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
It's very good. It's funny, not funny. I wrote a song.
I'm not a country guy. I'm a jazz guy. But
I hooked up with a country lyricist about six months ago.
God did that, and I went, what am I doing
writing a country too?

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
What the heck?

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
So he wrote it, but he came up with these lyrics,
and the title is called When the Angels Come to
Call in its most amazing lyrics, and it's all about
when the angels come to call, were you the man
or the woman that you should have been? Did you
do what you were supposed to do? Or did you
not do what you were supposed to do? And so

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it's almost like the same thing if you think about that,
when the angels come to call. Some people say, when
you're on your death ped if you've got a chance
and you review in your life, if you had no regrets,
you might have lived a pretty good life.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
You know, who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
I don't believe that everybody has that luxury. I do
people on their deathbed that don't regret the things that
were really not fair or right that they did to others,
and they don't take it back, and they don't even
think about it. I believe there are people that do
do that, but that's not my job.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
I'm not here.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Somebody else greater than me to figure that out. I
only know that I know that that doesn't happen to everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
You know, well, can Jetta?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Thank you so much for doing this interview. It's so
good to hook up with you again. And I want
to read your next book. What's the last book again?
Did I Kiss Ghost?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I kissed Ghost and I liked it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Ah good, I got to read that well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I haven't read the Inside the Other Side either, have
to read that one as well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Thank you so much, Jean, and I wish you such
good luck with the Invisible Architect. Hi, thank you very
best of luck, my dear.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
God bless you, God bless you. Have a great rest
of the summer. All right, you take care of right, Chao,
bella Chao.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
All right, everybody, I'm gonna wrap it up here. Remember
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