John Novello welcomed Sri Preethaji and Sri Krishnaji enlightened sages, mystics, and original philosophers. They are co-founders of Oneness, a movement that is awakening millions of people around the world to emotional well-being, mental wellness, loving relationships, inner peace, and spiritual enlightenment. They are sought after for their global peace efforts which have transformed the lives of more than 30 million people. They explored various spiritual concepts including the importance of inner peace, thought control, and awareness in managing suffering and achieving enlightenment.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Law of Attraction Radio Network. Welcome
to manifesting your dreams. Join renowned Grammy Award winner, jazz
pianist and Amazon number one best selling author John Novello
each week as he uncovers the secrets of the Invisible Architect,
the quantum intelligent energy that permeates everything even us. Discover
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how to tap into this inner power to use it
to design the perfect life you deserve. The Invisible Architect
as Within So Without is your guide to achieving your
dream life. And now here's your host, the jazz philosopher
John Novello.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hi, everybody, Johonavello, here the Jazz Philosopher. Welcome to my
Invisible Architect As Within Without weekly radio podcast on the
Law of Attraction Radio Network, which I'm so excited and
honored to be a part of. Are there a long
time ago that true lightment is really only achieved through
the service of others. The first part of this lifetime
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was inspiring others through my God given musical talent, composing
and performing. But I never figured in my twilight years
I'd be directly helping others as a personal and spiritual
servant of the Creator who I have named The Invisible Architect.
For the details of that, see my Amazon As selling
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metaphysical book The Invisible Architect How to Design Your Perfect
Life from Within. Nevertheless, here we are so welcome back
to all listeners and especially a big welcome to all
new listeners. My vision, and that's why I'm excited about
our guest today because we have a similar vision, is
to transform the quality of your life by raising your
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mindset frequency towards the God frequency, your true inner power,
as well as teach you the spiritual mechanics of interaction
with this inner power. So for those who want to
ascend to their next level of personal and spiritual development
by embracing their unique genius, continue further on their self
realization and serve community, you are on the right podcast,
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especially with today's guests. So without further ado, I'd like
to welcome Shri Pretaji to the podcast. Welcome Shree.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, that must say, and that's how we welcoming India.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, fantastic. So I'd like to start off what I
do with most guests is have you tell your story.
You know where you're from, what are you're doing, and
how you've got to be doing? What you're doing. I
understand you have a big following and a movement that
we want to discuss in a book, but I'd love
to find out how you got started on this path
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because not everybody goes on this type of path.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You know, that's true.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
See actually a second generation of people doing this book
and our own Expeedi says both my husband and mine
independently and together our own experiences of profound deep experiences
and consciousness mystical experiences, the profound experience of the inner
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state of calm, peace, joy is what has led us
in doing whatever we're doing today.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's fantastic. I would like to give the audience a
little bit of a bio in both of you. Shri
Pritaji and Shri Krishnaji well sre our guest today is
a world renowned relationship guide helping millions of couples and
families find connection, love and peace, and along with their husband,
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Shri Krishnaji, is an enlightened master, mystic and original philosopher.
They are co founders, which I want to find out
more about here in a minute, of the Oneness movement
that is awaken. I mean millions of people worldwide to
emotional well being. God knows we need this on this
planet at this time, and that is awaking millions of
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people to loving relationships, inner piece and spiritual enlightenment. They
are sought after globally for their peace efforts which have
transformed the lives of more than thirty million people. Well,
that's fantastic. They are also authors of the Four Sacred Secrets,
which became a national bestseller in the US, and this
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book provides practical guidance for personal transformation, emotional healing, and
spiritual growth. I think just reasonably, you guys have conducted
the Oneness Global Summit in July, attracting more than one
hundred thousand people from sixty three countries. Is that right?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
How did that go extremely well in terms of how
much people really needed this at this age?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Where was it held?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It was a studio from Charleston that we did which
connected to connected us to people across the globe, different
parts of globe, starting from Japan, Australia and the East,
all through the Americas and the Europe and Asia. So
it was an incredible three day experience that we could
actually lead people through getting out of anxiety and creating
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abundance of love, joy and wealth.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
In their lives.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So to actually see the response coming from all different
parts of the world, but for towards a common goal
of wanting to live a more joyful, peaceful life. So
there was a huge response from everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I would say, when did you start the Wonders movement?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
As I mentioned, it's a second generation that we are leading.
It is started by my husband's parents. Wow, sixty mean
we have been from twenty sixteen we have been running
it and the vision is still the same, to help
people move away from stress, anxiety, fear, loneliness, to help
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people live lives peacefully. And Christians, you and I talk
about a visual depiction of what our vision actually is.
I think that will be the easiest way to convey
what we're wanting wanting to do to the world. We
always say our vision is to have Buddha driving an
eco friendly bends with your loved ones. So that is
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the vision that we hold for each and every seeker, participant,
whom we touch.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
What host lives we touch.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Buddha represents always you know, spirituality has been something separate
from life. It is like, look like you know, I'm
not material, I'm spiritual I or I'm not spiritual, I'm
very material. Like it's always seen as two extremes, but
what Techristionagy and I saw is, you know it is.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Actually not extremes.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
If you're living in the world, you want to create wealth,
you want to create a beautiful family, you want to
enjoy every experience that is flowing into your lives.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
That means your inner experience has to be great.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You cannot live in a with a constant in a chat,
or you cannot live with fear and anxiety and believe
that you're going to create an extraordinary life externally, they're
not actually going together right to live in pain, to
live in suffering, and to create something spectacular or external world.
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So what Techristianagy and I are bringing is not limiting
spirituality to a few seekers, which was what it was
a couple of say two or three decades ago, to
actually bring spirituality into life so people can emerge into being.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Awakened.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Parents awake, can teachers awaken, business owners, awakened leaders.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
See that is the our vision.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's where we say a Buddha driving an eco friendly
Bentz and you're traveling in advents with your loved ones
the Buddha represents living in that profound state of inner calm,
free of conflict, free of disconnection, free of division, and
from that stage, you're creating all that you can create
in life, whether abundance or creativity or whatever you want
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to create in life. And that is the eco friendly bents.
Life feels effortless, living fields effortless. You're not going against
the flow. You are in a very beautiful flow of life.
And in this entire journey you're not alone. You also
have a very beautiful heart that can actually allow you
to connect with your loved ones, connect with the people
in your life and nature their experience of life as well.
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So that is the overarching vision of what we are
bringing to the world, a Buddha driving an eco friendly
biz and.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Traveling in that bench with your loved ones.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So spirituality is actually pulled and brought into everyday life.
If you look at the world today, you know, you know,
have a lot of people living in anxiety, people are
living in depression, and it's becoming a pandemic, I would say,
in terms of how much young people are even depressed
at this point, And how do we start and where
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do we start? It's always believed that you are in pain,
you are in suffering, You are internally not feeling good
because your external life is not great. The situation that
you're facing, the challenge is that you're facing. Are the
problems that you're facing. But what we wanted, what we
are telling is you are or you have got used
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to being in that space of suffering. Whatever that's suffering
is suffering as such as an overloaded word. But I
think people who understand anxiety in a no division conflict stress,
there is comparison. So these are the words people actually
relate to, and that has become your way of life.
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You get back to the same inner experience again and
again and again, and that is getting coded. That is
creating footprints of suffering stress in your body. It is
creating the similar connections in your brain leading you up
into the same state again and again. And we get
a little step deeper to show that you know, when
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you live in suffering, when you live in stress, say,
when you're living in anxiety all the time, you are
going to face situations in your life that is going
to keep you in anxiety exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's why the name of my podcast is actually as within,
So without and My book subtitle is how to Design
a Perfect Life from Within. So my goal is to
help people get in contact with God source in visible
architect and learn how to co create and take their
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inner world and make it clear and stress free and loving,
so that create a better life and serve humanity better.
There's a famous author I don't know if you have
ever read this book by James Redfield. The book was
called Celestine Prophecy. Have you ever heard of that boot.
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It's a fantastic book. It's a fiction book about It's
about a guy who is disillusioned with life and he
heard that in Peru there was some spiritual movement going on.
So he went to Peru and he started studying these
various insights and one of the things he learned was
in this I think applies to what we're both talking about.
Society in general currently has been disconnected from the larger
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source of dynamic universal energy that sustains us and respond
in this separation is what causes us to feel weak,
in stress and insecure. And once we hook up to source,
things start relaxing and we can get rid of that.
So we're on the same page. Tell me about the
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book The four Sacred Secrets. I think that's a personal
transformation and healing and spiritual book. Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yes, So this book that we've written a Christian Christianity
and me, both my husband and me, we've written this book.
We wanted it to be a journey. It is not
another book of information or knowledge. We wanted everybody who
picked up the book to read it very slowly, go
through those practices, the reflections, and actually make it their
personal journey so that you can start off a spiritual
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evolution in your consciousness right from where you are. And
the book actually has reflections, it has stories of transformation,
it has our experiences that we have, what we have had,
the powerful awakenings that she Christianity has had. So it's
all included in the Four Sacred Secrets, and it teaches you.
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Scriticity talks about a very phenomenal insight to the world.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What are the fourth Secrets?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
If I may ask, yes, before we get into the
Four Secrets, I just wanted to give you. Christian talks
about this phenomenal insight. And the insight is, you know,
every human being lives only in two states. That is,
at any point in time, you're either living in a
state of suffering or state of stress, if you're feeling
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comfortable in the word stress, or a state of no suffering.
If suffering no suffering again is intangible to you, then
we call it the beautiful state. So you're either living
in a state of stress or you are living in
a beautiful state, and there is no third state. That
is at this moment, what is it that you are
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experiencing internally? Are you experiencing sadness or comparison, or hurt
or fear or loneliness or insecurity, or in this moment,
you're experiencing calm, joy, love, connection, togetherness.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That's what you're experiencing, and there is no third state.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
So the most important decision of your life is from
which state you want to live an experienced life.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
People take it for granted.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Okay, I'm unhappy, I'm sad, i am anxious, I'm stressed,
but nobody is doing anything on that. So your quality
of life, your life itself, is so dependent on the
state that you are in constantly. So this being the
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overarching principle of the book itself or the insight of
the book itself. The first sacred secret is to live
with a spiritual vision.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
We all have a vision for the external world in
terms of how much you.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Want to achieve, how much way you want to lose,
where you want to live, which vehicle you want to travel,
or with whom you want to spend your life.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So you have a vision for the external.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Life, but you need to have a spiritual vision for
your inner state because that is the foundation of your
entire life. Without that foundation being right, you can have
a beautiful wife, you can have our beautiful, wonderful husband.
You can be traveling in a private jet or a yacht.
You could be living in the most prestigious location in
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the world, but you're going to be sad living in
that house. So it is we're not saying you need
to negate the external life. What we are trying to
tell you is the foundation of joyful experience of life
begins from insight. And that is why we say you
need The first sacred secret is to have a spiritual vision.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Right, Well, that's your inner world.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It's yes, yes, to nurture that beautiful in a state constantly.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So the second is in the book. It is inner truth.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
What it is is an art of awareness where you're not.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Trying to tweak and shift and change.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That which is arising, because if you begin to fight
that which is arising internally.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Within you, you're going to.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Be caught up in a lifelong fight and conflict. That
is not the way you change what you are experiencing internally.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
So you can't change.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
One particular thinking with positive thinking. You try a hundred times,
you get back to the negative thinking.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Again and again. There is a specific art and there
is a specific practice that.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You need to do in order to dissolve that in
a suffering that is arising. And that is the second
sacred secret, which is the inner truth. The third secret
is awakening and connecting to the vaster intelligence of the universe.
There is divine, There is God in the entire universe.
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And this divine, this God is not only in the universe,
it's also in you. And there is a very specific
way of connecting to this universe. And you, probably most
of them, probably connect to this divine, this God only
when in a state of desperation, in a state of helplessness.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
But you know internally it is only when you free free.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Of suffering and stress and anxiety, in that space of calm.
Only in a space of calm, connection is possible. So
the third third truth, the third secret that is there
in the book is how you connect to this master
intelligence of the universe.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And the fourth truth.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Is right action is what we call action because always
people ask us, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
How do we act?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
What is right in this situation? Should I be with
this person? Or should I leave this person? Should I buy?
Or should I say? Should I should I make a
decision of being in this organization? So you tend to
always act from a state when you are internally disturbed,
when you are in suffering, when you are in stress,
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when you are in anxiety. The way your brain is
structured is it pushes you into action. And those actions
that is coming arising from stress and anxiety in itself
carries an energy which flows out into your life with
the which flows out into your life in terms of
what is in terms of the energy and the repercussions
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of that energy at pastor so right action or spiritual
right action is actions that is performed free of disconnection,
free of suffering, free of fear and stress and anxiety
and anger. And from that space of connection, you truly
perform actions that.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Would create a beautiful flow, a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Energy into the universe, and you are at the receiving
end of what.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
The universe has to offer to you.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So these are the four sacred secrets in order to
create a beautiful life, a wonderful family, a great impact
on the world. So it starts with the individual. It
starts with wanting to live free of suffering, wanting to
nurture a beautiful state again and again. You know, a
life free of problems, aright, free of challenges is not possible.
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It's not possible. It's not possible for human beings, it's
not possible for any other species.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
On this planet.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So to believe that you will become joyful and happy
only the day when all problems that surrounding you is
going to be dissolved is a day that is never
going to come.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So are you going to push your.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Happiness for some unknown day which is never going to come,
or are you going to make a decision to nurture
your beautiful inner state using the practices, the processes dissolving
the stress out of your body, out of your brain,
out of your consciousness, nurturing the beautiful space of calm, joy,
love and connection, and from that space doessolve the problems
that you have are just the challenges that you're facing
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and create and create a life of impact for others.
So that is the overarching, in overarching vision that we have,
and that is also the vision that we have, and
it begins with the individuals.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, don't you think that we incarnate or reincarnate for
the purposes of remembering our divinity and for the purposes
of personal growth. So we don't come and take up
these sacred physical vehicles of course, to avoid suffering or
avoid trials and tribulations. We actually use life in the
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interactions to find out who we are and find out
our connection to God, who I call the invisible Architect.
And so that separatism that's going on on the planet
right now is what causes that anxiety and that lack
of way. And the more we remember our roots and
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learn how to interact with them, the better all this happens.
So I really like you for for Secrets, because you're
talking about the connection and how to clarify and strengthen
our inner world, because if our inner world is weak
or unknown, then of course it just creates more of
the outer world circumstances that everybody is suffering.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's good, it's a very good share that you're doing, John.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
But what we have we dig people through very deep processes,
and what we have seen is absolutely to kind of
experience unity with the divine experience one is the very
purpose of everybody's existence, and that's when you feel complete, total,
and that's the path we lead people through.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
But what is happening is what.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We are observed from innumerable lives that we have touched
over the last years, is you know, when an anger
is fueled in.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
The previous lifetime, it gets continued in this.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And you say you are say you're hurt for some
reason by somebody in your previous lifetime. This lifetime, you're
not the helpless person, but you become the aggressive. So
you change roles or you continue with the same roles.
But the true purpose of living is to dissolve that anger,
to dissolve that fear, to dissolve that hurt, and evolve
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into a human being who's so loving, who's so kind,
who's free of all those suffering states.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And that is when you kind of truly connect with
your divine experienced states of one.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Is we lead people through very powerful experiences of connection
with the divine, very powerful states of one. Is with divine,
seeing divine everywhere, seeing divine in all life, whether it's
a personal divine or experiencing the divine in the entire universe,
either as a personal divine or seeing the field of
divine around you.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
These are very powerful experiences that do happen.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But what we strongly see us people have to learn
to dissolve suffering. People have to learn to dissolve suffering,
to experience any connection, whether it's connection with oneself, connection
with the other, connection with the vaster world, connection with
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the divine. And when that fills, that experience fills you,
that connection, experience of connection fills you, then you feel
so alive, you feel total, You feel yes and absolutely
as you said that that is the very purpose of life,
whether you see the divine as an individual, as a field,
as an experience, but that experience is so beautiful, so palpable,
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so complete and makes you totally full, and that is
when the purpose of living is actually.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, see my research. I totally agree, by the way,
but I believe that there are spiritual mechanics, which is
a phrase from my book, which is learning how to
not only get in contact with our inner self and
the connection with the Almighty. But the discipline of controlling
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our thoughts. We don't have to be the effective past
lives and effect of these negative thoughts that come and
create this suffering. There is technology on how to control
your thoughts. I don't just mean positive thinking like, Okay,
I'm going to ignore it, because in that push it
back right. But at the same time I am as
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a very powerful statement. So if a person is believing
they're unhappy, or they have bad relationships or et cetera,
et cetera, and they can't get past that thought, then
even connecting with source is not going to help them
until they learn how to control those thoughts. And so
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I found an interesting principle from physics that's applicable here.
I wanted to get your thoughts on this. In the
physical universe, no two objects can occupy the same space
at the same time, right, otherwise you would fall through
the chair and fall through the planet. Right. In the
mental thought universe, no two thoughts can occupy occupy the
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same space at the same time. And so if we
learn how to control our thoughts. So let's say a
person wakes up and he's got all these negative thoughts
and reactive pushbacks. Well, if you substitute for that negative
thought an actual positive thought or the ideal thought, and
learn how to control your thoughts, then you are eventually
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starting to control your inner world. After a while, it
becomes a good habit. Instead of waking up in agreen
with all this suffering, you actually learn how to control
your thoughts and beliefs, and eventually it becomes a good habit.
What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Oh, people need not live based off on their past experiences.
However traumati traumatizing it has and the past should not
control their current lives. That we are definitely yes, we
don't need to live because of some past experience that
has happened and the impact of that you're still living today.
But in terms of controlling thoughts, John, you really can't
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change your thinking. All that you can do is dissolve
that arising that is happening, and you just bring total
attention to it. That is why the practice of awareness
is so important, because only in awareness besurge dissolves, and
then you can nurse the beautiful states and consciousness.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But you mean awareness, awareness of the problem, or awareness
of source or what awareness of that, awareness.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Of that inner it disturbs aware.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Whether it's a thought of shame, it is a thought
of comparison, is a thought of doubt, whatever that.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Is coming, you.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Can't be you should not doubt, or you should not
be comparing, or should not be ashamed.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
By replacing that positive thinking, it.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Is not really helping because it's only creating greater conflict.
But in you bring awareness. That's why we have so
many practices of awareness. In what we teach and where
we lead people, we bring their total attention to that.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Thinking that is arising in them.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So that thing when in that total awareness, that thinking dissolves,
so you become.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You become the observer is coming aware, and you can
sort of then become detached. Like the Buddhist concept is.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
That what you're saying, for us, awareness is just more
than just observation. For us, awareness is to observe in
the light of an insight. So when we say we
as I said, we kind of lead people through very.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Our vision is enlightenment of human beings.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So it is like very deep in terms of the
insights the wisdom that we actually lead people through the
processes as well.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So at every point in.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Their journey we kind of show different light and different insights.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
We throw the light of that insight.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And even if you start off with that simple insight, profound,
simple but profound inside that I shared with you on
two states to use that insight and to observe. Okay,
there are only two states. And now what is that
state I'm living in? What is it inner experience I'm having?
Am I disturbed internally? Or I am calm and peaceful?
And am I worried about something? Or I am joyful
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about something? To actually observe in light of an insight
for us as awareness, and in that space of awareness,
something very different happens to the brain.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
The brain itself restructures.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Say, in in suffering states, your amygdella is overactive, and
your hippocampus is constantly making memories of this overactive amygdala.
The experience is that has happened is replaying, recreating, creating
the same memories. Probably it has happened once you have
recorded it in an number of times, and that whole
system in the brain has to change. And then you
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need to awaken awake up different regions of your brain
to experience greater calm and quite You need to wake
up the prefrontal cortex. Awareness is the only enemy of
habit and awareness is the only way you can restructure
the activation that is happening in your brain. Otherwise it
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is the same old thinking that continues.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You're fighting with it, but it continues.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
The more you fight with it, the more you try
to control it, stronger it becomes.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It comes out with like comes out like with a vengeance.
So that is why.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Our practices, our meditations, our reflections, how much a focus
it does have on nurturing beautiful states and consciousness of gratitude,
of love, even taking up to your state's experiencing, states
of incredible bliss, of witness, states of oneness, states of
union with the divine, experiencing the divine, even let me
take people through such a journey. We hold on to
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the practice and reflections around awareness of one's in a state,
and depending on the person's capacity the capability, we show
them their inner state with a light, with different lights
to actually allow them to see that which is arising,
insight from the deepest ins from the deepest layers of
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your consciousness, to become free of it.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
So that is what we do.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
But as the goal to not only become this is
my question not only become aware of our inner state.
But I would think that once one becomes aware, like
in life, when you become aware of a problem, then
and only then can you fix the problem. So by
becoming aware of one's inner state and what's going on,
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I would imagine the goal is to eventually be able
to change it for the better.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But we in awareness as a process itself doesn't have
that whole thing of twisting and tweaking and changing. M
awareness is dissolution of all that suffering that mark the
in us in our negative states, if you want to
call it, we call it stressful suffering states that dissolving.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And but the starts off with a vision of what
not wanting to be there.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Why so by dissolving it, you're actually and.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
When you when you dissolve those suffering states, when you
resolve the stressful states, that is.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
When you're able to nurse a connection.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Right when you took place of gratitude to connection, to
connecting with the divine appreciation for life, that you have
a little calm and experience of peace. All that is
possible only when there is no stress internally.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
As you said, two.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Objects cannot occupy the same same place right, two states
cannot be at the same time the same place. It
is only that even divine connection for that matter, and
even the dissolution of suffering happens, then the connection happens.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Also.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
But we definitely stress on people living free of suffering
because we feel, we believe, and we see that the
world is in such a place of disconnection and crisis
and stress and pandemic of loneliness and depression. Everything that's
happening because people have by people have got used to
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being in stress.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Mm hm right. They're coping rather than dissolving and observing
and becoming aware, they're just putting up with it and
coping with it every day. And that stress, as you
said earlier, physically impinges negatively upon the body and causes
of the spiritual disharmony causes physical disharmony.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Is that what you're saying, yes, absolutely, yes, Well exactly
the world has learned to do very well is scoping, managing, distracting,
running away.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
And none of this has helped mh no help.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, what we need is a total attention, a total
dissolution of that suffering, taking out traces of those weeds.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Weeds continue to grow.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
By then, you have to be aware of the weed
growing then removed. That's when the weeds get remote. So
it is not management of suffering. It is not distracting oneself.
It is not replacing a negative thought with a positive thought.
It is not holding on to a particular philosophical idea
or thinking too so that you can cope with your suffering.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
No, it is actually bringing attention to that.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Inner suffering that is arising and dissolving it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Right, because once we become aware, then that can happen. Yes,
So I have a question for you. I'm going to
make a statement, and like your comment, we are not
separate beings manipulating it external or excuse me. We are
not separate beings manipulating eternal forces. But we are individualized
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expressions of the one creative consciousness awakening to its own nature.
In other words, the super consciousness and visible architect, God source,
whatever you want to call it, actually expresses its perfection
through each of us. We are the particular, it's the general.
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What's your comment on that?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
It'll be incredible if every individual is allowing the grace.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
The divine to flow through them.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Exactly, if you have to think of one thing that
is not allowing that to happen.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It is the analogy that we usually give is like
of a bamboo.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
A bamboo and it is hollow, and it allows the
wind to pass through it. It makes such a beautiful music
to the years.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And I'm aware of that stam being a musician.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Everything, and it becomes, yeah, it becomes a very beautiful
flute allowing the music to pass, the wind to pass
through it, creating such a beautiful experience for the years.
But imagine that bamboo is not hallow or she's not hollow,
and it is blocked, and then it doesn't allow anything
to flow through it. And that blockage in the bamboo
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is the analogy that we have for the blockage in
the individual, and that blockage is suffering.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
So when you free yourself from suffering, and when you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Experience liberation from that suffering that is kind of brought
you in, then you are like that hollow bamboo that's
allowing the flow of divine grace in you and threw
you into life. And one of the most powerful experiences
that people have, and in the field of awakening retreat
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that I journey carry people through is help journey is
to experiencing the divine in themselves, to seeing and experiencing
the divine in the other, to feeling and experiencing the
divine in all life.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
A yes, that helps handle the separation, which is a problem.
That's why I like your name of your movement to one,
this movement, because we are all one, and once we
realize that, I think there's less suffering going on internally,
when we realize we're not separate. Not only we're not
separate from the one, but we're not separate from each
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other in nature and everything.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
And the most separation one lives in because of more
of suffering and more of stress and more of anxiety.
More one is evolving, they're in our experience around stress
and anxiety, more separate they live. And because they're more
living in separation and disconnection, you know, life feels very
burdens life feels very painful. And that's why our unique
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journey is a combination of practices of awareness and reflection
and looking into suffering at the same time leading them
to powerful experiences of union, communion with the divine, with
the field, with the universe, or moving into powerful experiences
of bliss and being in the witness consciousness. So these
are kind of coming together to experience liberation, to change
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the way the brain is functioning, to see which part
of the brain is activated it into actually allowing them
to be coming slowly but surely with us driving and
eco friend events, living with their loved ones.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Now, do you work with people individually or just in
groups with your movement or do how does one become
involved with your teachings?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So definitely we're on now on the social handles. But
I lead people through basque groups. I lead people through
online online journeys, mystic journeys, mystic processes that I lead,
it's called manifest I also lead a four day retreat
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pretty much many parts of the country in many parts
of many parts of the world, from Tokyo to Tokyo, Korea, Malaysia, Europe,
a couple of cities in Europe and a couple of
cities in US. I travel all over the world leading
people through these four days. So that is an experiential journey.
And in Acome in India, we have huge, huge congregations
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happening where people, thousands of people go through these powerful
journeys in consciousness, and it is it is more groups,
but for leaders and influenzas we do spend a little
extra time, who can create a larger impact?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
So do they go? If they go to your website,
they can find out all about these things workin.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
And for those who are listening and who want to
take the first step but do not want to kind
of you know, do not want to spend more time
or more energy, then I would say they should start
off with this journey called the Manifest. And the Manifest
is a three are mystic process that I lead every
month on a Sunday.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I do it for three.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Different time zones East covering the East and then India
and then the West.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
It's called the Manifest. They can find out about all
this on the website.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yes, and the next episodically the Field of Awakening, which
is a four day retreat and it's coming to Los
Angeles in September.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okanast that's where I lived for forty years, but I
moved to I live in the Nashville area, but I
lived in Los Angeles for over forty years.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It'll be wonderful to have you there, John, because it's
a beautiful retreat.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Then well, we'll stay in contact and we'll see how
the schedule goes once I found you know what the
dates are in it?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I don't have the dates, but it's towards the end
of September.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Okay, Well, we can find out from your website.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
And Los Angeles States.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Another question is we've talked about suffering and observation and
dissolution and all that kind of stuff, but don't you
also think that trials and tribulations, challenges, suffering, whatever you
want to call it. The purpose, if one pays attention,
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is that that might be the exact right thing for
a person's soul, for them to start rising more towards
their divinity. I know that when I'm in the middle
of a certain circumstance, I kind of ask myself, Okay,
why am I co creating this situation and what am
I trying to learn? Versus crossing over to the other
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side after a lifetime and maybe doing a life review
and then coming back but within a lifetime observing my
sufferings and trying to discover how is the Divine expressing
itself through the circumstance and what can I learn? What
are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
If it's just going to be another escape roat, No,
but if it's going to be about actually dissolving that
inner anger or frustration or hurt that you're experiencing and
then getting back to seeing this situation. Then you would
see you would be incredibly powerful in that situation. Yeah,
and you would be able to create a beautiful direction
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it's for your life or somebody else's life, it will
be very incredibly beautiful. But the problem is, John, people
get stuck in s and anger and fear and from
that space, relate to the situation. From that space, address
the problems, fine, to find solutions for those problems. So
it will actually disturb and the idea that it is
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given to me by a purpose. It should not become
an escape route, not allowing them to see their suffering.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Right exactly. No, you definitely you can't. You can't not
is or deny the suffering because as you said earlier,
it just creates more more chaos than less chaos. Right,
And just.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
For your information, the Los Angeles Field of Awakening dates
are September twenty fourth to twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Okay, you're the end of the month, all right, fantastic. Well,
you know, pantheism is described as everything is God, but
I like the other terminology penetheism, which is everything is
in God and God is in everything, which means we
are consciousness exploring itself. When we explore, we become aware.
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I like your term aware because consciousness is really awareness.
As we become more aware of the situation, we're exploring
ourselves and exploring our relationships. So I think it's fantastic
what you guys are doing and enlightening people, because we
need more of that right now. There's too much separation.
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I think James Redfield was right in his books Soliciting Prophecy.
The more we keep becoming separate from each other and
separate from the divine, the weaker we get, and the
more we start handling that separation and realize the oneness,
which is why the movement you're talking about is fantastic.
Name the ones. I really enjoy that. So do you
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have oneness movements all the time that are separate from
this manifest that you talk about every line?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
We have a huge community, huge following who go through
our processes and meditations.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
They're part of us.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
They kind of help many people around the world, teaching
people how to live in beautiful states, helping them resolve
their in a conflict in a chaos. So it is
that's why we call us it's a movement because we
have spread all over in different across religion. I mean,
nothing is a badrier for the movement and the vision
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is to help people live in a peaceful, in a
calm state, and we believe in more and more people
learn to live in that peace. With that peace and calm,
you're going to create a more peaceful world. More people
living in anxiety and fear is going to create an
anxiet anxious world or the world filled with a lot
more separation than see today.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So that is y yeah, I agree. It almost has
to happen one at a time because each person who
starts achieving what you're discussing is part of the collective
and then the collective frequency gets raised as each individual's
frequency becomes one and raised. And that's probably one of
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the only ways we can create a better planet is
one by one, whether it's done through a group, whether
it's done individually or whatever.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Don't you think believe.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
In creating a face transition in humanity's consciousness from conflict, separation, disconnection,
and division to experiencing calm, low joy, peace and ones exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Well, my book, there's a chapter called everything is Energy
and Frequency, And as we raise our frequency and raise
our energy towards the God frequency, then more and more
construct of actions and behaviors, and more and more love
and peace and harmony happens. Well, listening, is there anything
else we haven't discussed that you would like to say
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before we sign off? And also I'd like you to
put so we have on the recording where people can
get in contact with you guys on the website and everything.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Onest moment good.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
So yes, in terms of we definitely will believe that
when people live in beautiful States, they're going to create
an extraordinary life and a beautiful life. And you feel
very powerful empowered in terms of the direction your life
it takes when you are able to nudge a beautiful States.
And we believe in not just drawing out a problem
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and showing we actually produce or give solutions to the
problems that you are currently facing in terms of nurturing
beautiful States.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
So that is why our processes, our.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Four day retreats, our online journeys that we do is
all directed towards you living free of suffering and nurturing
beautiful States.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
And consciousness, and.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I how highly highly recommend that you begin your spiritual
journey somewhere joining the Manifest Journey or if you're able
to come to the Field of Awakening in Los Angeles
between the twenty fourth and twenty eighth of this year
and many more, feel of awakening that is happening around
the world there. I'm in Tokyo, I'm im Munich around
the world. So you can fix, you can see what
works best for you. But it's important that you nurture
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a beautiful state in your consciousness, creating a beautiful life.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Creating an extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Impact in the world, and creating an extraordinary life.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So they can interact with you online, which is the
Manifest every month, is that right? And then you have
various live events that are announced on your website as well. Right.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
The website is the one is Movement dot rg dot org,
so that is where you will find all the information.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Fantastic, Well, it's been fantastic talking with you. I'd love
to meet your husband in one of these days as well.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Definitely it will be a very different, interesting conversation.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yes, well, it's incredible hooking up and maybe one day
we'll do something together. Who knows, we'll see you.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
Would love to see you sometime in Los Angeles because yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Would be fantastic. Although I'd love to go to India
because I've never been there. I've traveled all around the world.
What city are you guys in.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
We're in the south. We are ninety kilometers away from Chinnai.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Okay, yes, fantastic. Well, listen, thank you so much for
your gracious time and for your thank you for the
movement and all that you're doing. The separatism that's going
on has to change, and it has to change one
by one, and as we raise the collective consciousness of
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the planet, we will help create a better planet. So
thank you for all your wonderful work, and thank you
for being a guest today. I'll make sure in the
notes that the website and everything is there and we'll
send you the link and everything. Okay, So thank you, so.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
So so wonderful connecting with you, John, and I hope
to see you very soon.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Thank you, take care.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
I must say.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Thank you everybody. I really enjoy your feedback. So you
can email me at John at johnnovelloauthor dot com. Wasn't
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Speaker 1 (49:58):
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You're listening to the Law of Attraction Radio Network. Welcome
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how to tap into this inner power to use it
to design the perfect life you deserve. The Invisible Architect
as Within So Without is your guide to achieving your
dream life. And now here's your host, the jazz philosopher
John Novello.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hi, everybody, Johonavello, here the Jazz Philosopher. Welcome to my
Invisible Architect As Within Without weekly radio podcast on the
Law of Attraction Radio Network, which I'm so excited and
honored to be a part of. Are there a long
time ago that true lightment is really only achieved through
the service of others. The first part of this lifetime
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was inspiring others through my God given musical talent, composing
and performing. But I never figured in my twilight years
I'd be directly helping others as a personal and spiritual
servant of the Creator who I have named The Invisible Architect.
For the details of that, see my Amazon As selling
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metaphysical book The Invisible Architect How to Design Your Perfect
Life from Within. Nevertheless, here we are so welcome back
to all listeners and especially a big welcome to all
new listeners. My vision, and that's why I'm excited about
our guest today because we have a similar vision, is
to transform the quality of your life by raising your
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mindset frequency towards the God frequency, your true inner power,
as well as teach you the spiritual mechanics of interaction
with this inner power. So for those who want to
ascend to their next level of personal and spiritual development
by embracing their unique genius, continue further on their self
realization and serve community, you are on the right podcast,
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especially with today's guests. So without further ado, I'd like
to welcome Shri Pretaji to the podcast. Welcome Shree.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, that must say, and that's how we welcoming India.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, fantastic. So I'd like to start off what I
do with most guests is have you tell your story.
You know where you're from, what are you're doing, and
how you've got to be doing? What you're doing. I
understand you have a big following and a movement that
we want to discuss in a book, but I'd love
to find out how you got started on this path
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because not everybody goes on this type of path.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You know, that's true.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
See actually a second generation of people doing this book
and our own Expeedi says both my husband and mine
independently and together our own experiences of profound deep experiences
and consciousness mystical experiences, the profound experience of the inner
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state of calm, peace, joy is what has led us
in doing whatever we're doing today.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
That's fantastic. I would like to give the audience a
little bit of a bio in both of you. Shri
Pritaji and Shri Krishnaji well sre our guest today is
a world renowned relationship guide helping millions of couples and
families find connection, love and peace, and along with their husband,
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Shri Krishnaji, is an enlightened master, mystic and original philosopher.
They are co founders, which I want to find out
more about here in a minute, of the Oneness movement
that is awaken. I mean millions of people worldwide to
emotional well being. God knows we need this on this
planet at this time, and that is awaking millions of
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people to loving relationships, inner piece and spiritual enlightenment. They
are sought after globally for their peace efforts which have
transformed the lives of more than thirty million people. Well,
that's fantastic. They are also authors of the Four Sacred Secrets,
which became a national bestseller in the US, and this
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book provides practical guidance for personal transformation, emotional healing, and
spiritual growth. I think just reasonably, you guys have conducted
the Oneness Global Summit in July, attracting more than one
hundred thousand people from sixty three countries. Is that right?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
How did that go extremely well in terms of how
much people really needed this at this age?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Where was it held?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It was a studio from Charleston that we did which
connected to connected us to people across the globe, different
parts of globe, starting from Japan, Australia and the East,
all through the Americas and the Europe and Asia. So
it was an incredible three day experience that we could
actually lead people through getting out of anxiety and creating
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abundance of love, joy and wealth.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
In their lives.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So to actually see the response coming from all different
parts of the world, but for towards a common goal
of wanting to live a more joyful, peaceful life. So
there was a huge response from everywhere.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I would say, when did you start the Wonders movement?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
As I mentioned, it's a second generation that we are leading.
It is started by my husband's parents. Wow, sixty mean
we have been from twenty sixteen we have been running
it and the vision is still the same, to help
people move away from stress, anxiety, fear, loneliness, to help
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people live lives peacefully. And Christians, you and I talk
about a visual depiction of what our vision actually is.
I think that will be the easiest way to convey
what we're wanting wanting to do to the world. We
always say our vision is to have Buddha driving an
eco friendly bends with your loved ones. So that is
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the vision that we hold for each and every seeker, participant,
whom we touch.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
What host lives we touch.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Buddha represents always you know, spirituality has been something separate
from life. It is like, look like you know, I'm
not material, I'm spiritual I or I'm not spiritual, I'm
very material. Like it's always seen as two extremes, but
what Techristionagy and I saw is, you know it is.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Actually not extremes.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
If you're living in the world, you want to create wealth,
you want to create a beautiful family, you want to
enjoy every experience that is flowing into your lives.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
That means your inner experience has to be great.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You cannot live in a with a constant in a chat,
or you cannot live with fear and anxiety and believe
that you're going to create an extraordinary life externally, they're
not actually going together right to live in pain, to
live in suffering, and to create something spectacular or external world.
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So what Techristianagy and I are bringing is not limiting
spirituality to a few seekers, which was what it was
a couple of say two or three decades ago, to
actually bring spirituality into life so people can emerge into being.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Awakened.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Parents awake, can teachers awaken, business owners, awakened leaders.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
See that is the our vision.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
That's where we say a Buddha driving an eco friendly
Bentz and you're traveling in advents with your loved ones
the Buddha represents living in that profound state of inner calm,
free of conflict, free of disconnection, free of division, and
from that stage, you're creating all that you can create
in life, whether abundance or creativity or whatever you want
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to create in life. And that is the eco friendly bents.
Life feels effortless, living fields effortless. You're not going against
the flow. You are in a very beautiful flow of life.
And in this entire journey you're not alone. You also
have a very beautiful heart that can actually allow you
to connect with your loved ones, connect with the people
in your life and nature their experience of life as well.
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So that is the overarching vision of what we are
bringing to the world, a Buddha driving an eco friendly
biz and.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Traveling in that bench with your loved ones.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So spirituality is actually pulled and brought into everyday life.
If you look at the world today, you know, you know,
have a lot of people living in anxiety, people are
living in depression, and it's becoming a pandemic, I would say,
in terms of how much young people are even depressed
at this point, And how do we start and where
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do we start? It's always believed that you are in pain,
you are in suffering, You are internally not feeling good
because your external life is not great. The situation that
you're facing, the challenge is that you're facing. Are the
problems that you're facing. But what we wanted, what we
are telling is you are or you have got used
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to being in that space of suffering. Whatever that's suffering
is suffering as such as an overloaded word. But I
think people who understand anxiety in a no division conflict stress,
there is comparison. So these are the words people actually
relate to, and that has become your way of life.
(10:11):
You get back to the same inner experience again and
again and again, and that is getting coded. That is
creating footprints of suffering stress in your body. It is
creating the similar connections in your brain leading you up
into the same state again and again. And we get
a little step deeper to show that you know, when
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you live in suffering, when you live in stress, say,
when you're living in anxiety all the time, you are
going to face situations in your life that is going
to keep you in anxiety exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's why the name of my podcast is actually as within,
So without and My book subtitle is how to Design
a Perfect Life from Within. So my goal is to
help people get in contact with God source in visible
architect and learn how to co create and take their
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inner world and make it clear and stress free and loving,
so that create a better life and serve humanity better.
There's a famous author I don't know if you have
ever read this book by James Redfield. The book was
called Celestine Prophecy. Have you ever heard of that boot.
(11:31):
It's a fantastic book. It's a fiction book about It's
about a guy who is disillusioned with life and he
heard that in Peru there was some spiritual movement going on.
So he went to Peru and he started studying these
various insights and one of the things he learned was
in this I think applies to what we're both talking about.
Society in general currently has been disconnected from the larger
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source of dynamic universal energy that sustains us and respond
in this separation is what causes us to feel weak,
in stress and insecure. And once we hook up to source,
things start relaxing and we can get rid of that.
So we're on the same page. Tell me about the
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book The four Sacred Secrets. I think that's a personal
transformation and healing and spiritual book. Correct.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yes, So this book that we've written a Christian Christianity
and me, both my husband and me, we've written this book.
We wanted it to be a journey. It is not
another book of information or knowledge. We wanted everybody who
picked up the book to read it very slowly, go
through those practices, the reflections, and actually make it their
personal journey so that you can start off a spiritual
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evolution in your consciousness right from where you are. And
the book actually has reflections, it has stories of transformation,
it has our experiences that we have, what we have had,
the powerful awakenings that she Christianity has had. So it's
all included in the Four Sacred Secrets, and it teaches you.
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Scriticity talks about a very phenomenal insight to the world.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What are the fourth Secrets?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
If I may ask, yes, before we get into the
Four Secrets, I just wanted to give you. Christian talks
about this phenomenal insight. And the insight is, you know,
every human being lives only in two states. That is,
at any point in time, you're either living in a
state of suffering or state of stress, if you're feeling
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comfortable in the word stress, or a state of no suffering.
If suffering no suffering again is intangible to you, then
we call it the beautiful state. So you're either living
in a state of stress or you are living in
a beautiful state, and there is no third state. That
is at this moment, what is it that you are
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experiencing internally? Are you experiencing sadness or comparison, or hurt
or fear or loneliness or insecurity, or in this moment,
you're experiencing calm, joy, love, connection, togetherness.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That's what you're experiencing, and there is no third state.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
So the most important decision of your life is from
which state you want to live an experienced life.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
People take it for granted.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Okay, I'm unhappy, I'm sad, i am anxious, I'm stressed,
but nobody is doing anything on that. So your quality
of life, your life itself, is so dependent on the
state that you are in constantly. So this being the
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overarching principle of the book itself or the insight of
the book itself. The first sacred secret is to live
with a spiritual vision.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
We all have a vision for the external world in
terms of how much you.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Want to achieve, how much way you want to lose,
where you want to live, which vehicle you want to travel,
or with whom you want to spend your life.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So you have a vision for the external.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Life, but you need to have a spiritual vision for
your inner state because that is the foundation of your
entire life. Without that foundation being right, you can have
a beautiful wife, you can have our beautiful, wonderful husband.
You can be traveling in a private jet or a yacht.
You could be living in the most prestigious location in
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the world, but you're going to be sad living in
that house. So it is we're not saying you need
to negate the external life. What we are trying to
tell you is the foundation of joyful experience of life
begins from insight. And that is why we say you
need The first sacred secret is to have a spiritual vision.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Right, Well, that's your inner world.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It's yes, yes, to nurture that beautiful in a state constantly.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
So the second is in the book. It is inner truth.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
What it is is an art of awareness where you're not.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Trying to tweak and shift and change.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
That which is arising, because if you begin to fight
that which is arising internally.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Within you, you're going to.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Be caught up in a lifelong fight and conflict. That
is not the way you change what you are experiencing internally.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
So you can't change.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
One particular thinking with positive thinking. You try a hundred times,
you get back to the negative thinking.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Again and again. There is a specific art and there
is a specific practice that.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You need to do in order to dissolve that in
a suffering that is arising. And that is the second
sacred secret, which is the inner truth. The third secret
is awakening and connecting to the vaster intelligence of the universe.
There is divine, There is God in the entire universe.
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And this divine, this God is not only in the universe,
it's also in you. And there is a very specific
way of connecting to this universe. And you, probably most
of them, probably connect to this divine, this God only
when in a state of desperation, in a state of helplessness.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
But you know internally it is only when you free free.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Of suffering and stress and anxiety, in that space of calm.
Only in a space of calm, connection is possible. So
the third third truth, the third secret that is there
in the book is how you connect to this master
intelligence of the universe.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And the fourth truth.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Is right action is what we call action because always
people ask us, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
How do we act?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
What is right in this situation? Should I be with
this person? Or should I leave this person? Should I buy?
Or should I say? Should I should I make a
decision of being in this organization? So you tend to
always act from a state when you are internally disturbed,
when you are in suffering, when you are in stress,
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when you are in anxiety. The way your brain is
structured is it pushes you into action. And those actions
that is coming arising from stress and anxiety in itself
carries an energy which flows out into your life with
the which flows out into your life in terms of
what is in terms of the energy and the repercussions
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of that energy at pastor so right action or spiritual
right action is actions that is performed free of disconnection,
free of suffering, free of fear and stress and anxiety
and anger. And from that space of connection, you truly
perform actions that.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Would create a beautiful flow, a beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Energy into the universe, and you are at the receiving
end of what.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
The universe has to offer to you.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
So these are the four sacred secrets in order to
create a beautiful life, a wonderful family, a great impact
on the world. So it starts with the individual. It
starts with wanting to live free of suffering, wanting to
nurture a beautiful state again and again. You know, a
life free of problems, aright, free of challenges is not possible.
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It's not possible. It's not possible for human beings, it's
not possible for any other species.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
On this planet.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So to believe that you will become joyful and happy
only the day when all problems that surrounding you is
going to be dissolved is a day that is never
going to come.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
So are you going to push your.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Happiness for some unknown day which is never going to come,
or are you going to make a decision to nurture
your beautiful inner state using the practices, the processes dissolving
the stress out of your body, out of your brain,
out of your consciousness, nurturing the beautiful space of calm, joy,
love and connection, and from that space doessolve the problems
that you have are just the challenges that you're facing
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and create and create a life of impact for others.
So that is the overarching, in overarching vision that we have,
and that is also the vision that we have, and
it begins with the individuals.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, don't you think that we incarnate or reincarnate for
the purposes of remembering our divinity and for the purposes
of personal growth. So we don't come and take up
these sacred physical vehicles of course, to avoid suffering or
avoid trials and tribulations. We actually use life in the
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interactions to find out who we are and find out
our connection to God, who I call the invisible Architect.
And so that separatism that's going on on the planet
right now is what causes that anxiety and that lack
of way. And the more we remember our roots and
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learn how to interact with them, the better all this happens.
So I really like you for for Secrets, because you're
talking about the connection and how to clarify and strengthen
our inner world, because if our inner world is weak
or unknown, then of course it just creates more of
the outer world circumstances that everybody is suffering.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It's good, it's a very good share that you're doing, John.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
But what we have we dig people through very deep processes,
and what we have seen is absolutely to kind of
experience unity with the divine experience one is the very
purpose of everybody's existence, and that's when you feel complete, total,
and that's the path we lead people through.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
But what is happening is what.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
We are observed from innumerable lives that we have touched
over the last years, is you know, when an anger
is fueled in.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
The previous lifetime, it gets continued in this.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And you say you are say you're hurt for some
reason by somebody in your previous lifetime. This lifetime, you're
not the helpless person, but you become the aggressive. So
you change roles or you continue with the same roles.
But the true purpose of living is to dissolve that anger,
to dissolve that fear, to dissolve that hurt, and evolve
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into a human being who's so loving, who's so kind,
who's free of all those suffering states.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
And that is when you kind of truly connect with
your divine experienced states of one.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Is we lead people through very powerful experiences of connection
with the divine, very powerful states of one. Is with divine,
seeing divine everywhere, seeing divine in all life, whether it's
a personal divine or experiencing the divine in the entire universe,
either as a personal divine or seeing the field of
divine around you.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
These are very powerful experiences that do happen.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
But what we strongly see us people have to learn
to dissolve suffering. People have to learn to dissolve suffering,
to experience any connection, whether it's connection with oneself, connection
with the other, connection with the vaster world, connection with
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the divine. And when that fills, that experience fills you,
that connection, experience of connection fills you, then you feel
so alive, you feel total, You feel yes and absolutely
as you said that that is the very purpose of life,
whether you see the divine as an individual, as a field,
as an experience, but that experience is so beautiful, so palpable,
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so complete and makes you totally full, and that is
when the purpose of living is actually.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, see my research. I totally agree, by the way,
but I believe that there are spiritual mechanics, which is
a phrase from my book, which is learning how to
not only get in contact with our inner self and
the connection with the Almighty. But the discipline of controlling
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our thoughts. We don't have to be the effective past
lives and effect of these negative thoughts that come and
create this suffering. There is technology on how to control
your thoughts. I don't just mean positive thinking like, Okay,
I'm going to ignore it, because in that push it
back right. But at the same time I am as
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a very powerful statement. So if a person is believing
they're unhappy, or they have bad relationships or et cetera,
et cetera, and they can't get past that thought, then
even connecting with source is not going to help them
until they learn how to control those thoughts. And so
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I found an interesting principle from physics that's applicable here.
I wanted to get your thoughts on this. In the
physical universe, no two objects can occupy the same space
at the same time, right, otherwise you would fall through
the chair and fall through the planet. Right. In the
mental thought universe, no two thoughts can occupy occupy the
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same space at the same time. And so if we
learn how to control our thoughts. So let's say a
person wakes up and he's got all these negative thoughts
and reactive pushbacks. Well, if you substitute for that negative
thought an actual positive thought or the ideal thought, and
learn how to control your thoughts, then you are eventually
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starting to control your inner world. After a while, it
becomes a good habit. Instead of waking up in agreen
with all this suffering, you actually learn how to control
your thoughts and beliefs, and eventually it becomes a good habit.
What are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Oh, people need not live based off on their past experiences.
However traumati traumatizing it has and the past should not
control their current lives. That we are definitely yes, we
don't need to live because of some past experience that
has happened and the impact of that you're still living today.
But in terms of controlling thoughts, John, you really can't
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change your thinking. All that you can do is dissolve
that arising that is happening, and you just bring total
attention to it. That is why the practice of awareness
is so important, because only in awareness besurge dissolves, and
then you can nurse the beautiful states and consciousness.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But you mean awareness, awareness of the problem, or awareness
of source or what awareness of that, awareness.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Of that inner it disturbs aware.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Whether it's a thought of shame, it is a thought
of comparison, is a thought of doubt, whatever that.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Is coming, you.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Can't be you should not doubt, or you should not
be comparing, or should not be ashamed.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
By replacing that positive thinking, it.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Is not really helping because it's only creating greater conflict.
But in you bring awareness. That's why we have so
many practices of awareness. In what we teach and where
we lead people, we bring their total attention to that.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Thinking that is arising in them.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So that thing when in that total awareness, that thinking dissolves,
so you become.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You become the observer is coming aware, and you can
sort of then become detached. Like the Buddhist concept is.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
That what you're saying, for us, awareness is just more
than just observation. For us, awareness is to observe in
the light of an insight. So when we say we
as I said, we kind of lead people through very.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Our vision is enlightenment of human beings.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
So it is like very deep in terms of the
insights the wisdom that we actually lead people through the
processes as well.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
So at every point in.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Their journey we kind of show different light and different insights.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
We throw the light of that insight.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
And even if you start off with that simple insight, profound,
simple but profound inside that I shared with you on
two states to use that insight and to observe. Okay,
there are only two states. And now what is that
state I'm living in? What is it inner experience I'm having?
Am I disturbed internally? Or I am calm and peaceful?
And am I worried about something? Or I am joyful
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about something? To actually observe in light of an insight
for us as awareness, and in that space of awareness,
something very different happens to the brain.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
The brain itself restructures.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Say, in in suffering states, your amygdella is overactive, and
your hippocampus is constantly making memories of this overactive amygdala.
The experience is that has happened is replaying, recreating, creating
the same memories. Probably it has happened once you have
recorded it in an number of times, and that whole
system in the brain has to change. And then you
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need to awaken awake up different regions of your brain
to experience greater calm and quite You need to wake
up the prefrontal cortex. Awareness is the only enemy of
habit and awareness is the only way you can restructure
the activation that is happening in your brain. Otherwise it
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is the same old thinking that continues.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
You're fighting with it, but it continues.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
The more you fight with it, the more you try
to control it, stronger it becomes.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
It comes out with like comes out like with a vengeance.
So that is why.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Our practices, our meditations, our reflections, how much a focus
it does have on nurturing beautiful states and consciousness of gratitude,
of love, even taking up to your state's experiencing, states
of incredible bliss, of witness, states of oneness, states of
union with the divine, experiencing the divine, even let me
take people through such a journey. We hold on to
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the practice and reflections around awareness of one's in a state,
and depending on the person's capacity the capability, we show
them their inner state with a light, with different lights
to actually allow them to see that which is arising,
insight from the deepest ins from the deepest layers of
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your consciousness, to become free of it.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
So that is what we do.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
But as the goal to not only become this is
my question not only become aware of our inner state.
But I would think that once one becomes aware, like
in life, when you become aware of a problem, then
and only then can you fix the problem. So by
becoming aware of one's inner state and what's going on,
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I would imagine the goal is to eventually be able
to change it for the better.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
But we in awareness as a process itself doesn't have
that whole thing of twisting and tweaking and changing. M
awareness is dissolution of all that suffering that mark the
in us in our negative states, if you want to
call it, we call it stressful suffering states that dissolving.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
And but the starts off with a vision of what
not wanting to be there.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Why so by dissolving it, you're actually and.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
When you when you dissolve those suffering states, when you
resolve the stressful states, that is.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
When you're able to nurse a connection.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Right when you took place of gratitude to connection, to
connecting with the divine appreciation for life, that you have
a little calm and experience of peace. All that is
possible only when there is no stress internally.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
As you said, two.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Objects cannot occupy the same same place right, two states
cannot be at the same time the same place. It
is only that even divine connection for that matter, and
even the dissolution of suffering happens, then the connection happens.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
Also.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
But we definitely stress on people living free of suffering
because we feel, we believe, and we see that the
world is in such a place of disconnection and crisis
and stress and pandemic of loneliness and depression. Everything that's
happening because people have by people have got used to
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being in stress.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Mm hm right. They're coping rather than dissolving and observing
and becoming aware, they're just putting up with it and
coping with it every day. And that stress, as you
said earlier, physically impinges negatively upon the body and causes
of the spiritual disharmony causes physical disharmony.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Is that what you're saying, yes, absolutely, yes, Well exactly
the world has learned to do very well is scoping, managing, distracting,
running away.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
And none of this has helped mh no help.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, what we need is a total attention, a total
dissolution of that suffering, taking out traces of those weeds.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Weeds continue to grow.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
By then, you have to be aware of the weed
growing then removed. That's when the weeds get remote. So
it is not management of suffering. It is not distracting oneself.
It is not replacing a negative thought with a positive thought.
It is not holding on to a particular philosophical idea
or thinking too so that you can cope with your suffering.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
No, it is actually bringing attention to that.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Inner suffering that is arising and dissolving it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Right, because once we become aware, then that can happen. Yes,
So I have a question for you. I'm going to
make a statement, and like your comment, we are not
separate beings manipulating it external or excuse me. We are
not separate beings manipulating eternal forces. But we are individualized
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expressions of the one creative consciousness awakening to its own nature.
In other words, the super consciousness and visible architect, God source,
whatever you want to call it, actually expresses its perfection
through each of us. We are the particular, it's the general.
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What's your comment on that?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
It'll be incredible if every individual is allowing the grace.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
The divine to flow through them.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Exactly, if you have to think of one thing that
is not allowing that to happen.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It is the analogy that we usually give is like
of a bamboo.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
A bamboo and it is hollow, and it allows the
wind to pass through it. It makes such a beautiful music
to the years.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And I'm aware of that stam being a musician.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Everything, and it becomes, yeah, it becomes a very beautiful
flute allowing the music to pass, the wind to pass
through it, creating such a beautiful experience for the years.
But imagine that bamboo is not hallow or she's not hollow,
and it is blocked, and then it doesn't allow anything
to flow through it. And that blockage in the bamboo
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is the analogy that we have for the blockage in
the individual, and that blockage is suffering.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
So when you free yourself from suffering, and when you.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Experience liberation from that suffering that is kind of brought
you in, then you are like that hollow bamboo that's
allowing the flow of divine grace in you and threw
you into life. And one of the most powerful experiences
that people have, and in the field of awakening retreat
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that I journey carry people through is help journey is
to experiencing the divine in themselves, to seeing and experiencing
the divine in the other, to feeling and experiencing the
divine in all life.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
A yes, that helps handle the separation, which is a problem.
That's why I like your name of your movement to one,
this movement, because we are all one, and once we
realize that, I think there's less suffering going on internally,
when we realize we're not separate. Not only we're not
separate from the one, but we're not separate from each
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other in nature and everything.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
And the most separation one lives in because of more
of suffering and more of stress and more of anxiety.
More one is evolving, they're in our experience around stress
and anxiety, more separate they live. And because they're more
living in separation and disconnection, you know, life feels very
burdens life feels very painful. And that's why our unique
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journey is a combination of practices of awareness and reflection
and looking into suffering at the same time leading them
to powerful experiences of union, communion with the divine, with
the field, with the universe, or moving into powerful experiences
of bliss and being in the witness consciousness. So these
are kind of coming together to experience liberation, to change
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the way the brain is functioning, to see which part
of the brain is activated it into actually allowing them
to be coming slowly but surely with us driving and
eco friend events, living with their loved ones.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Now, do you work with people individually or just in
groups with your movement or do how does one become
involved with your teachings?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
So definitely we're on now on the social handles. But
I lead people through basque groups. I lead people through
online online journeys, mystic journeys, mystic processes that I lead,
it's called manifest I also lead a four day retreat
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pretty much many parts of the country in many parts
of many parts of the world, from Tokyo to Tokyo, Korea, Malaysia, Europe,
a couple of cities in Europe and a couple of
cities in US. I travel all over the world leading
people through these four days. So that is an experiential journey.
And in Acome in India, we have huge, huge congregations
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happening where people, thousands of people go through these powerful
journeys in consciousness, and it is it is more groups,
but for leaders and influenzas we do spend a little
extra time, who can create a larger impact?
Speaker 2 (39:23):
So do they go? If they go to your website,
they can find out all about these things workin.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
And for those who are listening and who want to
take the first step but do not want to kind
of you know, do not want to spend more time
or more energy, then I would say they should start
off with this journey called the Manifest. And the Manifest
is a three are mystic process that I lead every
month on a Sunday.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I do it for three.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Different time zones East covering the East and then India
and then the West.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
It's called the Manifest. They can find out about all
this on the website.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yes, and the next episodically the Field of Awakening, which
is a four day retreat and it's coming to Los
Angeles in September.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okanast that's where I lived for forty years, but I
moved to I live in the Nashville area, but I
lived in Los Angeles for over forty years.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
It'll be wonderful to have you there, John, because it's
a beautiful retreat.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Then well, we'll stay in contact and we'll see how
the schedule goes once I found you know what the
dates are in it?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I don't have the dates, but it's towards the end
of September.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Okay, Well, we can find out from your website.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
And Los Angeles States.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Another question is we've talked about suffering and observation and
dissolution and all that kind of stuff, but don't you
also think that trials and tribulations, challenges, suffering, whatever you
want to call it. The purpose, if one pays attention,
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is that that might be the exact right thing for
a person's soul, for them to start rising more towards
their divinity. I know that when I'm in the middle
of a certain circumstance, I kind of ask myself, Okay,
why am I co creating this situation and what am
I trying to learn? Versus crossing over to the other
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side after a lifetime and maybe doing a life review
and then coming back but within a lifetime observing my
sufferings and trying to discover how is the Divine expressing
itself through the circumstance and what can I learn? What
are your thoughts about that?
Speaker 3 (41:44):
If it's just going to be another escape roat, No,
but if it's going to be about actually dissolving that
inner anger or frustration or hurt that you're experiencing and
then getting back to seeing this situation. Then you would
see you would be incredibly powerful in that situation. Yeah,
and you would be able to create a beautiful direction
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it's for your life or somebody else's life, it will
be very incredibly beautiful. But the problem is, John, people
get stuck in s and anger and fear and from
that space, relate to the situation. From that space, address
the problems, fine, to find solutions for those problems. So
it will actually disturb and the idea that it is
(42:27):
given to me by a purpose. It should not become
an escape route, not allowing them to see their suffering.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Right exactly. No, you definitely you can't. You can't not
is or deny the suffering because as you said earlier,
it just creates more more chaos than less chaos. Right,
And just.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
For your information, the Los Angeles Field of Awakening dates
are September twenty fourth to twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Okay, you're the end of the month, all right, fantastic. Well,
you know, pantheism is described as everything is God, but
I like the other terminology penetheism, which is everything is
in God and God is in everything, which means we
are consciousness exploring itself. When we explore, we become aware.
(43:22):
I like your term aware because consciousness is really awareness.
As we become more aware of the situation, we're exploring
ourselves and exploring our relationships. So I think it's fantastic
what you guys are doing and enlightening people, because we
need more of that right now. There's too much separation.
(43:45):
I think James Redfield was right in his books Soliciting Prophecy.
The more we keep becoming separate from each other and
separate from the divine, the weaker we get, and the
more we start handling that separation and realize the oneness,
which is why the movement you're talking about is fantastic.
Name the ones. I really enjoy that. So do you
(44:08):
have oneness movements all the time that are separate from
this manifest that you talk about every line?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
We have a huge community, huge following who go through
our processes and meditations.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
They're part of us.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
They kind of help many people around the world, teaching
people how to live in beautiful states, helping them resolve
their in a conflict in a chaos. So it is
that's why we call us it's a movement because we
have spread all over in different across religion. I mean,
nothing is a badrier for the movement and the vision
(44:41):
is to help people live in a peaceful, in a
calm state, and we believe in more and more people
learn to live in that peace. With that peace and calm,
you're going to create a more peaceful world. More people
living in anxiety and fear is going to create an
anxiet anxious world or the world filled with a lot
more separation than see today.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
So that is y yeah, I agree. It almost has
to happen one at a time because each person who
starts achieving what you're discussing is part of the collective
and then the collective frequency gets raised as each individual's
frequency becomes one and raised. And that's probably one of
(45:23):
the only ways we can create a better planet is
one by one, whether it's done through a group, whether
it's done individually or whatever.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Don't you think believe.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
In creating a face transition in humanity's consciousness from conflict, separation, disconnection,
and division to experiencing calm, low joy, peace and ones exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Well, my book, there's a chapter called everything is Energy
and Frequency, And as we raise our frequency and raise
our energy towards the God frequency, then more and more
construct of actions and behaviors, and more and more love
and peace and harmony happens. Well, listening, is there anything
else we haven't discussed that you would like to say
(46:09):
before we sign off? And also I'd like you to
put so we have on the recording where people can
get in contact with you guys on the website and everything.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
Onest moment good.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
So yes, in terms of we definitely will believe that
when people live in beautiful States, they're going to create
an extraordinary life and a beautiful life. And you feel
very powerful empowered in terms of the direction your life
it takes when you are able to nudge a beautiful States.
And we believe in not just drawing out a problem
(46:45):
and showing we actually produce or give solutions to the
problems that you are currently facing in terms of nurturing
beautiful States.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
So that is why our processes, our.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
Four day retreats, our online journeys that we do is
all directed towards you living free of suffering and nurturing
beautiful States.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
And consciousness, and.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I how highly highly recommend that you begin your spiritual
journey somewhere joining the Manifest Journey or if you're able
to come to the Field of Awakening in Los Angeles
between the twenty fourth and twenty eighth of this year
and many more, feel of awakening that is happening around
the world there. I'm in Tokyo, I'm im Munich around
the world. So you can fix, you can see what
works best for you. But it's important that you nurture
(47:27):
a beautiful state in your consciousness, creating a beautiful life.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Creating an extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Impact in the world, and creating an extraordinary life.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
So they can interact with you online, which is the
Manifest every month, is that right? And then you have
various live events that are announced on your website as well. Right.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
The website is the one is Movement dot rg dot org,
so that is where you will find all the information.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Fantastic, Well, it's been fantastic talking with you. I'd love
to meet your husband in one of these days as well.
Speaker 4 (48:06):
Definitely it will be a very different, interesting conversation.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yes, well, it's incredible hooking up and maybe one day
we'll do something together. Who knows, we'll see you.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
Would love to see you sometime in Los Angeles because yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Would be fantastic. Although I'd love to go to India
because I've never been there. I've traveled all around the world.
What city are you guys in.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
We're in the south. We are ninety kilometers away from Chinnai.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Okay, yes, fantastic. Well, listen, thank you so much for
your gracious time and for your thank you for the
movement and all that you're doing. The separatism that's going
on has to change, and it has to change one
by one, and as we raise the collective consciousness of
(48:54):
the planet, we will help create a better planet. So
thank you for all your wonderful work, and thank you
for being a guest today. I'll make sure in the
notes that the website and everything is there and we'll
send you the link and everything. Okay, So thank you, so.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
So so wonderful connecting with you, John, and I hope
to see you very soon.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
Thank you, take care.
Speaker 4 (49:14):
I must say.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Thank you everybody. I really enjoy your feedback. So you
can email me at John at johnnovelloauthor dot com. Wasn't
she a fantastic guest or you can text me at
eight one eight seven four zero three seven two eight
and or get the details of my one on one
mentor program, the Invisible Architect Alignment Protocol, which will help
(49:41):
raise your frequency and help you create a better inner world.
Because remember, as within, so without Until next week, flourish,
it's your destiny. John Novello, the Jazz Philosopher, Over and out.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
This concludes this week podcast with the jazz philosopher John Novello.
To learn more about John, visit his website at johnnovelloauthor
dot com. Or to schedule a one on one consultation
with John, visit go dot John Novelloauthor dot com, Forward
slash Register. See you next week,
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