Ep. 28 - Women's rights in locker rooms should not be optional - and kids shouldn't look up to criminals

On today's episode, Alii talks about the story in California of a woman being punished by her gym for complaining about a man using the women's locker room. Later, Alii also talks about the woman in Chicago who was attacked by a group of unruly youths. 

Episode Transcript

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This is Pillow Talk with Ellie Michelle on the FCB
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome back to another episode of Talk with Eli Michelle.
I am your host, Ellie Michelle. If you guys hear
my microphone, I'm sorry. I am using a different microphone
this morning and it catches everything. So it's gonna We're
just gonna roll with it. But before I get started,
I hope your holidays are filled with so much joy

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and love and family and making memories. After all, you know,
family is the most important. You know, if some people
don't have a good relationship with their family, I hope
you do enjoy it with your friends and people that
you consider family. And with that, we are going to
roll right into my topics for today. Okay, so we

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watched something incredibly important happen. A woman named Tish Heyman,
a black woman, a lesbian, and someone who has lived
in the LGBTQ community her entire life, stood up and
said what millions of women are scared to say out loud.
She spoke about women's safety and women's spaces. This conversation

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was sparked after she confronted a situation at a Beverly
Hills gym formerly under gold Gym's Gold's Gym now Eos Fitness,
where a biological man identified you know, aified identifying as
a transgender was not passable, entered the women's soccer room

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and Tish stood her ground. Good for her. By the way,
if you ever hear this, you are a rock star.
She said what needed to be said. This was this
is a problem. Women are uncomfortable and this is not safe.
And after she spoke up, she was kicked out. Now
I wanted to I want to talk about that man
for a minute. He is actually originally from Ohio and

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he has taken the identity of his ex wife. His
ex wife was brutally attacked by him. He broke her jaw,
his wife's jaw, Alexis, and she had to have a
complete reconstruction surgery. So he took off from Ohio and
moved himself to Beverly Hills, and we are now in

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current time speaking of history, and you know, we need
to pause and remember something. Women fought for centuries for private,
protected spaces. We fought for the right to vote, We
fought for the right to work, We fought to the
right to learn, we have bodily autonomy and to be safe.

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We fought for protections against harassment, exploitation, and assault, often alone,
often ignored, and part of that fight included the right
for women only spaces where we could be physically vulnerable
without fear. Locker rooms, bathrooms, changing areas, shelters. These spaces

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weren't created out of discrimination, okay, they were created out
of necessity, out of trauma, and out of the deep
need for safety us women. We earned these protections with
generations of struggle. We're not giving up. So people like
tisses so extremely important in today's society because we're heading

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down like a slippery slope. But today those boundaries are
being erased, almost overnight. Women are being told if you're
not comfortable, you're the bigot. If you want privacy, there's
something wrong with you. If you don't want a biological
male undressing next to you, you're hateful. No, absolutely not

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we are so backwards, you guys. It's so backwards nowadays.
It's like we are standing up to men and we're
being called the bigots. And I know this individual identifies
as a woman, but he is not passable. Women should
never be punished or shamed for protecting themselves. Women should
never be guilt tripped for wanting privacy, and women should

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never have their instincts dismissed, instincts that have kept us
alive for generations. Policies that ignore biology put only one
group at risk, women, so the non passable individuals in
women's spaces. We need honesty in this conversation. When someone

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who is visibly physically male, who enters a women's locker room,
no matter what they identify as, it causes discomfort, fear,
and confusion for women, especially especially our youth, our young girls.
Identity is not the issue here. Female vulnerability is Women

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undressed in these spaces, women shower in these spaces, women
are exposed in these spaces. This is not about someone's pronouns.
This is about the physical presence of a male body
in a female only area, a place where women are
at the most vulnerable. And now women who speak up

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are being silenced or punished exactly what happened to tisheymen,
now before gets all tiffy, get their pennies in a bunch.
I am a proud ally. I wanted to make something
extremely clear because people love to twist this conversation and
love to twist my words. I am a proud ally

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of the trans community. I support adults living as themselves,
expressing who they are, and being treated with respect. If
you want a transition, I support you. I will go
with you and hold your hand. I will go to
the surgery with you and hold your hand. If you
want to identify a certain way, I support you. If
you want to live really, I support you. But supporting

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someone doesn't mean sacrificing the safety of my daughters, my nieces,
my sisters, or myself. Being an ally does not require
abandoning common sense. Being an ally does not require pretending
biologic biology disappears. Being an ally does not require letting

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down the guard women were taught to have for survival.
And here's the uncomfortable truth. Some people are taking advantage
of these policies. Some individuals are using identity as a
shield to gain access to women's spaces. Some are entering
these spaces with harmful intentions. Let's be completely honest here,

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and when you knowingly ignore women's boundaries, their comfort, their rights,
that is bigotry, that is disrespect, that is erasing everything
women fought for across hundreds of years. This issue is
not about identity. It's about safety, boundaries and respect for

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biological reality. Even women who even women have been transitioning
for years, who are absolutely stickney, are speaking out. They
are saying this is wrong. This is if you are
not passable, do not go into that space. Do not
go into that space. We don't do not. So you

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have to be listening. And then they say, you know,
we respect women so much, and then it's like people
are trying to erase us. I would I'm not. I
refuse to let them erase you, or anyone erase you.
You are valid and you are so important in this world.
And it's so such a shame that people are taking
advantage of such a such such an incredible group of

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people in the real stakes. Let's be very honest. This
conversation is not about bathrooms in locker rooms. This is
about whether women are allowed to draw lines at all.
If we can't say no, in a locker room. Where
can we say no, If our boundaries here don't man,

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what boundaries ever will. If women's voices are ignored in
the spaces where we are the most vulnerable, what does
that mean for our daughter's futures? Women's rights cannot be optional.
Women's rights cannot be optional, They cannot be conditional. They

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cannot be overwritten by social pressure or political fear. What
Tishchymen did was brave. What what she said, She said
what millions of women are thinking. She stood up for
not just herself, but for all of us. And I try,

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I'm you know, in the media has been twisting her.
And she even went to her lawmakers, and I see
how how they just ignored her. They just dismissed her.
And then the whole crow went crazy because she, you know,
she's saying that these men who are dressing up as
women are invading our spaces. And I pause to think,

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because these lawmakers as she went to, were white men.
So I feel like, since she is a black lesbian woman,
she has the disadvantage obviously, and unfortunately, but I feel
as if they have completely ignored her because of the
color of her skin and what she in who she
loves internally, you know. But now it's our turn. We

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must speak up. We must refuse to be silent, to
be silenced. We must protect the spaces women fought generations
to secure. We must demand policies rooted in biology, reality
and actual safety, not ideology, because women's rights are not

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for debate. Women's safety is not negotiable, and we will
not lose the protections that generations of women fought, bled
and sacrificed for, not now, not ever, not on our watch.
And speaking of women and how we sacrifice, you know,

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there was a shocking incident on the cell side of
Chicago that has triggered outrage, concern, and calls for serious action.
A mother, her name is Corshwanda Hadter, thirty three, and
her two children were brutally attacked by a group of
youths while walking home from school. The attack was captured
on video and now is going viral today. I wanted

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to just kind of dig into that, the issues behind it,
the response from the city and the school system, and
why this case matters for communities everywhere. She's a black woman.
Another topic that I wanted to bring to light is
the you know, black women are so incredibly ignored, So
we're just going to dive right into it. On Monday afternoon,

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around three ten, hater hat her and her nine year
old son and younger daughter were walking home from school
in the one hundred and six one oh six ten
six hundred block of South Bensley Avenue in the South
Daring neighborhood of Chicago. According to the mother's statement, a
group of children followed them, taunted and chased them, and

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then ultimately violent violently attacked them. She says, they followed
us all the way up here. They hit my son first,
dragged him in the grass, and pulled her baby's hair.
Video footage shows the mother being pushed to the ground,
repeatedly punched and kicked as she tried to shield her children.
Her mother was trying to protect her children, and that

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kind of brings a tear to my eye because I
couldn't imagine. The nine year old was taken to the
hospital in serious conditions and so was mom. The daughter's
status is less clear, but she was present. No arrests
have been made at the time of reporting. This isn't
an isolated one time outbursts. Reports show that the same

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group of youth have been terrorizing another family for months,
including physically assaulting a twenty one year old autistic man
and vandalizing the home. Meanwhile, the victim's son had been
bullied at Orville T. Bright Elementary School for over two years,
and the mother says the school failed to act. City
officials pointed out that the children committing serious crimes like

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this is quote unacceptable and the sign of a deeper
signs that a deeper interventions are needed, both in terms
of school discipline and community supports. Additionally, the incident highlights
concerns about safety, passage to and from school, accountability for
youth violence, and the rule of local institutions, and protecting

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both students and family. The Chicago the Police Department said
that they were investigating. The Chicago Public Schools issued a
statement saying they were quote horrified and are collaborating with
city agencies to support the family. City leaders, including Brandon Johnson,
he is the Mayor of Chicago, called that the video
is quote good wrenching, and said that this behavior must

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not be normalized in the neighborhood. There was a gathering
Tuesday morning outside of the school, parents and residents demanding
accountability and safety conditions for children walking. This case resonates
for several reasons. It shows that children are both victims
and perpetrators in series violence and our violence and our
systems may not be equipped to handle that ladder. It

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raises questions about school safety, bullying prevention, and what happens
when repeated complaints go unheeded. It underscores that parents and
families expecting to walk their children safely to and from
school can themselves be told targets. From a specific perspective,
it touches on community responsibility. Neighbors said that this group

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of kids have been pretty much They have been pretty
much raising themselves and lacked accountability. For you, the listener,
it's a reminder that community neighborhood safety isn't just about
policying policing. It's about schools, families, neighborhood culture and pathways
for youth behavior. As the investigation continues and the family recovers,

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the key questions will remain. Will the perpetrators be held accountable?
Will the school take meaningful steps to protect students? Will
the community rally not in just outrage, what in prevention?
Because the cost of inaction may be far higher than
what we like to imagine that's the issue with what's

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going on in our society is these broken homes. These
kids are out here, you know, clickbaiting and thinking it's
cool to be this these thugs and and and then
they see these adults, especially in Chicago, who are just
getting slapped on the wrist when they do something incredibly horrible.
This isn't this isn't new. This happens. And it's because

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places like Chicago who have been demanding do you follow
in the police, and then glorifying criminals, thinking oh, we're okay,
We're okay, we don't need the police. But then these
kids see that clips go viral of these criminals violently
violently hurting women and kids and in school, and then

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and then they think it's oh, yeah, we can go
in to school, we can disrespect our teachers, we can
disrespect these parents. We don't care, we don't care. No,
these kids need parents. They don't need TikTok raising them.
They don't need these social media is raising them. They
need their parents. So shame on the parents that are
letting these kids run wild. Shame on the school for

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not addressing the bullying issue. We need, we need something,
So much better for these for these kids. There needs
to be more after school facilities, more community based get
togethers for these kids to be busy. They're not busy.

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They are so bored and and it have no sense
of They don't have anybody to look up to. They
see thugs, they see these gangs, and they think that's
the way of life, and then they're going to create
these violent Then they're going to do these violent, vile
things to these to these people in the community and

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the entire country. But before I get too deep into that,
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and I will catch up with you guys on the
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