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I'm Darren Marler and this is a weird darkness bonus bite.
The pilots wouldn't talk about it. That's what stuck with
Anna Paulina Luna years after the incident at Portland Air
National Guard Base, not just their silence, but the way
one particular F fifteen pilot's demeanor shifted when she pressed
for details. His voice changed, his body language screamed discomfort.
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Whatever had penetrated their airspace that day had rattled someone
trained to handle combat situations. Luna was working as an
airfield management specialist during her six years in the Air Force,
a position that put her in constant communication with fighter pilots.
She knew these people. She understood their personalities, their professional boundaries,
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their typical responses to various situations. So when an airspace
incursion occurred and the pilots suddenly developed selective amnesia, she
recognized something was fundamentally wrong. The pilot she cornered about
the incident choose his words with surgical precision. He couldn't
identify what they had encountered. That was the phrase, couldn't identify,
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not classified, not restricted, but unidentifiable. And then came the
detail that made Luna's skin crawl. Whatever it was had
outperformed their F fifteens. Fighter jets don't get outperformed by
commercial aircraft. They don't get outperformed by weather balloons. The
F fifteen Eagle can reach speeds over Mock two point
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five and climbed sixty five thousand feet in under a minute.
When a seasoned combat pilot admits something out maneuvered their
aircraft and then refuses to discuss it further because they
don't want to lose their flight status, the implications become
deeply uncomfortable. Luna understood the subtext immediately. In military aviation reporting,
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certain types of income owners can trigger psychological evaluations. Pilots
who claimed to see things that shouldn't exist risk being grounded,
their careers destroyed by a single honest report. The pilot's
sphere wasn't about national security protocols. It was about professional survival.
By twenty twenty three, Luna had traded her Air Force
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uniform for a seat in Congress, but the memory of
that Portland incident had never left her. When pilots from
Eggland Air Force Base in Florida began approaching lawmakers with
allegations that the military was systematically covering up UAP encounters.
Luna saw an opportunity to dig deeper into what she'd
witnessed years earlier. The task force she now leads, focused
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on declassifying federal secrets, ranging from UAPs to the Kennedy assassination,
started hitting walls immediately. When Luna, along with representatives Tim
Burshett and Matt Gates, attempted to investigate reports at Egglin
Air Force Base, they were turned away. The base commander
initially refused them access in entirely after heated arguments, they
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were permitted to interview exactly one pilot. During that restricted visit,
Luna saw an image that confirmed her suspicions. She later
stated publicly that she could confirm that they had seen
evidence of UAPs at Eglin. Not speculation, not secondhand accounts,
but visual documentation of something that shouldn't exist according to
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conventional understanding of physics. The resistance from military brass followed
a pattern. When the task force requested access to sensitive
Compartmented Information facility as CIF or SKIFF to receive classified
briefings about UAP encounters, they were denied. The excuse given
was that David Grush, the former Air Force intelligence officer
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who had testified about secret UAP retrieval programs, had an
outdated security clearance. Luna and her colleagues knew this was
bureaucratic theeter there were workarounds for clearance issues, especially for
Congressional oversight committees, which constitutional authority to review classified programs.
What Luna had seen in her role as Task Force
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chair goes far beyond grainy footage of distant objects. She's
viewed photographs that convinced her these phenomena weren't created by
human hands, not Russian, not Chinese, not some black project
from Lockheed's skunk works, something else entirely. The way she
describes these images carries a weight that transcends typical political rhetoric.
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She doesn't claim to have seen alien bodies or crashed saucers. Instead,
she focuses on the technology itself, objects that demonstrate capabilities that,
in her words, rival what we know currently with physics,
and that the United States lacks the ability to reproduce.
During her conversation with Joe Rogan in August twenty twenty five,
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Luna revealed something that makes the blood run cold. Lawmakers
have been shown evidence of what she calls interdimensional beings,
not extraterrestrial interdom entities that can operate through what she
termed time spaces. The concept that sounds like science fiction
until you remember she's describing classified briefings given to members
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of Congress. Luna was careful with her words, noting she
couldn't discuss classified conversations directly, but she did confirm that
very credible people had reported incidents involving movements outside of
time and space. The photographs she's examined have left her
certain that objects exist which weren't created by mankind, the
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statement she repeated multiple times with increasing conviction. David Grush's
twenty twenty three congressional testimony provides crucial context for understanding
Luna's revelations. Grush, a decorated intelligence officer who had worked
with the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and the National Reconnaissance Office,
testified under oath that the United States possessed intact and
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partially intact craft of non human origin. He claimed the
government maintained a decades long UAP crash retrieval and reverse
engineering program. More disturbing were Grush's allegations about the human
cost of maintaining these secrets. When asked directly if people
had been harmed or killed to protect this information, he
answered in the affirmative. He testified about experiencing personal retaliation
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for his whistleblowing, including fears for his life following specific
incidents he couldn't discuss in open session. Grush also mentioned
white collar crimes committed in connection with these programs, financial
irregularities that suggested money was being moved through channels that
bypassed congressional oversight. The Pentagon's inability to account for trillions
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in spending suddenly takes on a different dimension when considered
alongside testimony about unacknowledged special access programs dealing with non
human technology. Luna's task force sent letters in February twenty
twenty five to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Secretary of
Defense Pete Hegseth, CIA director John Ratcliffe, demanding briefings on
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all UAP related records. The timing is significant. These requests
went out shortly after the new administration took office, suggesting
a coordinated effort to use the political transition to break
through decades of institutional stonewalling. The technical capabilities Luna describes
challenges fundamental assumptions about reality. Objects that move outside of
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time and space aren't just advanced, they operate according to
principles that modern physics say shouldn't be possible. Yet multiple
credible witnesses, including trained military observers, with every reason to
stay quiet, keep reporting the same impossible phenomena. The Portland
incident that Luna witnessed fits a pattern documented across hundreds
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of military encounters. Objects that demonstrate instantaneous acceleration without visible propulsion,
craft that move from hovering to hypersonic speeds without creating
sonic booms. Vehicles that perform right angle turns at velocities
that would liquefy any known material or biological entity inside them.
These aren't minor violations of physics. They are demonstrations of
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technology that operates outside our understanding of how matter and
energy interact. Luna's mention of interdimensional capabilities suggests these objects
might not be traveling through space in any conventional sense,
but rather manipulating space time itself, or moving through dimensions
we can't perceive. The reverse engineering programs Luna believes exist
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would explain certain technological leaps in recent decades, but they
also imply something more troubling. If the government has been
studying recovered non human technology for years, possibly decades, and
still can't replicate it, then the gap between human and
non human capabilities might be insurmountable. The stigma surrounding UAP
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reports creates a self reinforcing system of suppression. Luna pointed
out that thousands of people across time have reported similar phenomena,
yet the immediate response is to question their mental stability.
She called this a disinformation campaign to get people to
shut up about it. For military personnel, the stakes are
particularly high. Reporting a UAP encounter can trigger immediate career consequences,
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loss of flight status, security clearance reviews, psychological evaluations, and
social ostracization. The pilot Luna spoke with at Portland understood
these risks intimately. His refusal to discuss the incident wasn't
just professional caution, it was survival instinct. This culture of
silence extends beyond individual service members. When Luna's Congressional Task
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Force attempted to exercise its oversight authority, they encountered resistance
at every level. Base commanders refused access, the intelligence community
denied skiff requests. The Pentagon provided a explanations that didn't
match the evidence. The March twenty twenty four Pentagon report
claimed no evidence of extraterrestrial spacecraft seems increasingly hollow when
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contrasted with Luna's first hand accounts of the evidence she's reviewed.
Either the Pentagon's All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office hasn't seen
the same materials shown to Congressional members, or someone is lying.
Luna's repeated references to interdimensional aspects of these phenomena open
disturbing possibilities. Traditional thinking about extraterrestrial life assumes beings traveling
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from distant star systems using advanced but fundamentally comprehensible technology.
Interdimensional entities suggest something far stranger, intelligences that exist partially
or entirely outside our three dimensional space. The photographs Luna
has seen apparently document objects or beings that demonstrate this capability.
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She described them as able to operate through the time
spaces that we currently have, suggesting mood through dimensions that
intersect with but aren't limited to our perceived reality. This
isn't the first time interdimensional theories have surfaced in UAP research.
Jacques Valet, the computer scientist and euthologists who inspired the
French scientist character and Close Encounters of the third Kind,
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has long argued that UAP phenomena might represent something far
stranger than extraterrestrial visitors, possibly entities from parallel dimensions or
alternate realities that occasionally bleed into our own. Luna's confirmation
that Congressional members have been briefed on interdimensional possibilities transforms
this from fringe theory to acknowledged possibility within official channels.
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The implications are staggering. If these entities can move through
dimensions we can't perceive, then our entire understanding of security, defense,
and even reality itself needs fundamental revision. The pace of
revelations has accelerated dramatically. In twenty twenty five alone, over
twenty one hundred D sightings have been reported to the
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National UFO Reporting Center, a massive increase from the fourteen
hundred ninety two reports throughout all of twenty twenty four.
Either the phenomena are increasing in frequency or witnesses are
becoming more willing to report what they see. Luna's task
force represents just one prong of a multi pronged congressional
effort to pierce the veil of secrecy. Multiple House and
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Senate committees are pursuing parallel investigations. The November twenty twenty
four hearing titled Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena Exposing the Truth brought
together subcommittees in an unprecedented joint session. The resistance from
what Luna calls the protective complex authorities who believe Americans
can't handle the truth appears to be weakening, or perhaps
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the evidence has simply become too overwhelming to contain. When
members of Congress start publicly discussing interdimensional beings and technology
that operates outside known physics, the old strategies of denial
and ridiculs ule stop working. Luna's public statements on the
Joe Rogan experience reached millions of listeners, far more than
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a typical congressional hearing. Her description of seeing evidence that
convinced her there's things out there that, if not been
created by mankind, can't be walked back or classified after
the fact. The Harvard physicist Alvi Loeb's recent analysis of
what he calls a Manhattan sized interstellar object as another
layer to the mounting evidence. Loebe, who heads Harvard's Galileo
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project for the Systematic scientific search for evidence of extraterrestrial
technological artifacts identified anomalies in the object that define conventional explanation.
The object glows in front rather than behind, something never
observed in comets or asteroids. Luna's testimony suggests the government
knows far more about such objects than it admits publicly.
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The task forces demands for transparency extend beyond just UAPs
to include multiple categories of classified information, the Kennedy assassination,
Martin Luther King Junior's death, nine to eleven, COVID origins,
and Jeffrey Epstein's connections. The linking of these disparate topics
suggests a pattern of institutional secrecy that Luna and her
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colleagues are attempting to unravel. Simultaneously. The February twenty twenty
five letters to Cabinet officials represent just the beginning. Luna
has promised to continue pushing for declassification, field hearings, and
public disclosure of evidence currently hidden in classified vaults. The
photographs she has seen, the briefings she's received, and the
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resistance she's encountered all point to a reality that is
far stranger than most Americans suspect. Her experience at Portland
Air National Guard Base. Watching a trained fighter pilot's struggle
to avoid discussing something that had outmaneuvered his F fifteen
was just the first glimpse through a door that's slowly
opening wider. What's on the other side of that door,
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operating through dimensions we don't understand. With TI technology we
can't replicate, remains hidden in classified briefings and carefully guarded photographs.
The pilots still won't talk about it, but now at
least we're beginning to understand why. If you'd like to
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