PENTAGON SCIENTIST LISTS FOUR ALIEN SPECIES: Details From Pentagon Briefing To Congress

A Pentagon scientist's testimony about alien classifications has members of Congress questioning everything they thought they knew about government secrecy.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
When physicist Eric Davis began speaking to members of Congress
about the types of beings potentially operating unidentified craft in
American airspace, the room went silent. This wasn't some conspiracy
theorist or attention seeking blogger. This was a scientist with
decades of top secret Pentagon clearances, a man who'd consulted

(00:25):
on classified projects most people would never know existed, and
he was calmly methodically listing them off like items on
a grocery list. Gray's Nordics, insectoids, reptilians. Missouri Representative Eric
Burlison sat in that briefing room, watching his understanding of
government secrecy crumble with each word. He'd heard whispers about

(00:48):
these classifications before, mentioned in closed door meetings, discussed in
hushed tones by former military personnel and intelligence officers, but
hearing a respected Pentagon signist say it openly on camera
in an official congressional setting that changed everything. What followed
would be a series of revelations about crash retrieval programs,

(01:12):
recovered biologics, and a vast infrastructure of secrecy that even
members of Congress couldn't penetrate. The testimony opens a door
to questions that most people aren't prepared to ask. What
if the government has been cataloging different species of non
human intelligence for decades? What if the materials from crashed

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craft dating back to the nineteen fifties are real? And
perhaps most unsettling of all, why are some witnesses describing
communication that bypasses in normal senses entirely suggesting these entities
operate on principles of consciousness itself that we're only beginning
to understand. I'm Darren Marler, and this is Weird Darkness.

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Welcome Weirdos. Here you'll find stories of the paranormal, supernatural, legends, lore,
the strange and bizarre, crime, conspiracy, mysterious, macabre, unsolved and unexplained.
Coming up in this episode, a Pentagon scientist with top
secret clearances stunned Congress by naming four distinct species of

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non human beings allegedly piloting craft in US airspace, Gray's Nordics, insectoids,
and Reptilians. What Missouri Representative Eric Burlison revealed next about
crash retrieval programs and recovered biologics suggests the government has
been cataloging these entities for decades now. Bult your doors,

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lock your windows, turn off your lights, and come with
me into the weird darkness. The briefing room fell silent

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when physicist Eric Davis started listing them off Gray's Nordics, insectoids, reptilians.
Not in some science fiction convention panel, but in a
congressional hearing about unidentified aerial phenomena. The man speaking had
decades of top secret clearance with the Pentagon, and he

(03:34):
was describing in clinical detail the four types of non
human beings that might be operating craft in American airspace.
Missouri representative Eric Burlison sat next to Davis during May
twenty twenty four briefing, watching the respected scientist described these
entities as casually as someone might discuss different models of aircraft.

(03:56):
Davis explained they were humanoid head torso, four limbs, and
roughly human sized. The physicist's matter of fact delivery made
the content even more unsettling. Davis wasn't speaking under oath
during this particular session, a detail Burlusson would later clarify
to reporters. But the physicists' credentials were undeniable years of

(04:20):
consulting for the Pentagon on classified projects work with the
CIA expertise and advanced propulsion systems. When someone with that
background starts talking about multiple species of non human intelligence,
even skeptics pay attention. The congressman later admitted his shock
during an appearance on The Endless Void podcast with Kristin Fisher.

(04:44):
He had heard these four classifications mentioned before in private meetings,
whispered about in closed door sessions, but hearing Davis say
it openly on camera in a formal congressional setting that
was different. Described it as watching something that should have
remained hidden suddenly exposed to daylight. Each classification Davis mentioned

(05:09):
carries its own disturbing history, stretching back through decades of
reported encounters. The grays small beings with smooth gray skin
and oversized black eyes that seemed to absorb light rather
than reflect it. No visible nose, just two small holes,
a mouth that barely moves if witnesses see it move

(05:31):
at all. These entities entered public consciousness through Betty and
Barney Hills nineteen sixty one encounter in New Hampshire's White Mountains.
The Hills described being paralyzed, unable to scream as these
beings approached their stopped car on a deserted road. Under hypnosis,
they recalled an examination table, instruments that left no marks,

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and those eyes, always, those enormous black eyes that seemed
to look through them rather than at them. The consistency
of gray descriptions across thousands of reports creates its own
kind of dread. Different witnesses, different countries, different decades, yet
the descriptions remain virtually identical. The Nordics tall pale beings

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with features so perfectly human they become somehow wrong. Witnesses
describe them as resembling Scandinavians. Blonde hair, blue eyes, spare skin,
but too symmetrical, too flawless. Their movements are too fluid,
their expressions too controlled. Reports dating back to the nineteen

(06:41):
fifties describe encounters with these entities, who claim to come
from the Pilades Star cluster. They communicate telepathically, witnesses say,
filling minds with images and concepts rather than words, Unlike
the clinical detachment of the Grays. Nordics reportedly express concern
for humanity's future, but that concern feels rehearsed, calculated, like

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something mimicking human emotion without truly understanding it. The insectoids,
multiple limbs that bend in ways that shouldn't be possible,
exoskeletons that click and scrape when they move, mandibles where
a mouth should be. Some witnesses describe antenna that twitch
and rotate independently, tracking movement like biological radar. The concept

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appears in George Melius's nineteen oh two film A Trip
to the Moon, but modern reports describe something far more visceral.
Witnesses talk about a chittering sound that bypasses the ears
and resonates directly in the skull. They describe beings unable
to read any emotion or intent in those compound eyes,
just a cold alien intelligence examining them like specimens. The

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reptilians scaled skin with a texture witnesses compare to snake leather,
vertical pupil that dilate and contract independently. Some reports describe
a musty organic smell, like wet earth mixed with something metallic.
David Ike popularized the concept in the late twentieth century,

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claiming these beings could shift between reptilian and human form,
but similar creatures appear in mythology across culture. The Naga
of South Asian tradition, the serpent beings of various Indigenous
American beliefs. The consistency across disconnected culture creates uncomfortable questions
about shared experiences humanity might prefer to forget. Bruleson's revelations

(08:38):
extend beyond that single briefing. During multiple podcast appearances and interviews,
he's described a pattern of information emerging from the shadows
of government secrecy in private meetings not classified sessions. He's
careful to specify. Various individuals have discussed these same for classifications,
former military personnel employees, members of the intelligence community. They

(09:03):
whisper about crash retrieval programs that definitely exist, though what
exactly they are retrieving remains officially unclear. The congressmen recounted
one particularly bizarre claim that keeps surfacing, people who say
they can summon UAPs through consciousness alone. One woman came
to his office insisting she could demonstrate this ability Burlison

(09:27):
Caulder bluff, suggesting they step outside and summon a craft.
Right then nothing happened. But the frequency of these claims,
often from seemingly credible individuals, creates its own unsettling pattern.
During a separate congressional hearing, Burlison questioned Luis Alizondo, former
head of the Pentagon's Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or

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a TIP. The exchange reveals documentation about aerospace contractors attempting
to transfer materials of unknown origin, materials supposedly collected in
the nineteen fifties. The CIA allegedly blocked the transfer. When
pressed about whether the US possesses non human technology, Alessando
said he couldn't discuss specifics in an open hearing. The

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trail leads to Bigelow Aerospace, the company founded by Hotel
magnet Robert Bigelow. Journalist Christopher Sharp reported on an attempted
transfer of materials between Lockheed Martin and Bigelow Aerospace, a
transfer that required approval from the Secretary of the Air Force.
That approval never came. Alizondo confirmed parts of this story

(10:35):
during his congressional testimony. He described conversations with contract personnel
who verified the attempted transfer. The materials in question dated
back to the nineteen fifties. Their exact nature remains classified,
hidden behind walls of bureaucratic silence that even members of
Congress can't penetrate. When Brulusson asked Alessando directly about biologics

(10:59):
non human biological materials. The former Pentagon official confirmed he
was aware of reports that such materials had been recovered.
He mentioned it was discussed frequently during his time at
the Pentagon, though the supposed collection occurred before he was born.
Physicist Eric Davis's background makes dismissing his claims difficult. This

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isn't someone selling books about ancient aliens or running a
UFO tourism business. His resume includes legitimate scientific work, published
papers on exotic propulsion theories, consulting work for agencies that
don't officially exist. Yet. Even Congressman Berlson, who sits on
the House Oversight Committee and has access to information most

(11:42):
people never see, remains skeptical. He describes himself as someone
who grew up with Star Wars and Star Trek, but
always filed such things under fiction. His involvement began when
David Grush, the intelligence officer who testified about non human
spacecraft and biologics, requested meetings with congress members. Burlussen hired

(12:02):
Grush as a consultant, bringing him into weekly team meetings.
The congressman needed someone who understood the intelligence communities labyrinth.
Someone who knew which rocks to turn over, which doors
to open, which questions to ask. Grush provides questions for hearings,
helps identify witnesses, categorizes them as friendly, hostile, or friendly

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but requiring subpoenas. Perhaps the most disturbing pattern emerging from
these investigations involves consciousness itself. Multiple witnesses from different backgrounds
describe telepathic communication with these entities, nonverbal exchanges, but direct
transmission of concepts, images, emotions. Berlussen mentioned this phenomenon appears

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inescapable from discussions of UAPs. The religious and spiritual aspects
keep surfacing regardless of witness's backgrounds. Some describe it in
Christian terms, talking about angels and demons. Others frame it
through quantum physics, discussing extra dimensional beings existing on parallel
planes of reality. The congressmen referenced quantum entanglement as proof

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that reality extends beyond our three dimensional perception. Two particles
separated by vast distances instantly affect each other. When one
is observed, no signal travels between them, they simply respond
as if connected by something outside normal space. If consciousness
can affect quantum systems, and if these entities operate using

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principles we're only beginning to understand, then the implications become
genuinely unsettling. Burleson revealed he has made requests to the
current White House regarding UAP disclosure. He describes the administration
as surprisingly helpful, though he won't elaborate on specific requests
to avoid compromising potential revelations. The congressman notes that President

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Trump's previous actions for releasing JFK and x MLK files
demonstrate and openness to disclosure. Donald Trump Junior has expressed
interest in the topic, adding another layer of political intrigue
to an already complex situation. The possibility of executive action
to force transparency creates a ticking clock for those who've

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kept these secrets for decades. The most maddening aspect for
investigators like Burlison involves the proximity of proof that remains
just out of reach. He states with absolute certainty that
the US has a crash retrieval program. The question is
what it's retrieving. Jacob Barber, who publicly claimed involvement in

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such a program, indicated most retrievals were terrestrial craft. Either
domestic or foreign, but there were, in his words, rare
events that were genuinely extraterrestrial. Berlsson expressed a particular frustration
that resonates with anyone who has dealt with government bureaucracy.
He sat on an airport tarmac for three hours due

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to weather, thinking about claims of advanced propulsion technology. If
such technology exists, why are elected officials still traveling in
conventional aircraft subject to the same delays as everyone else.
The congressman also voiced irritation with the UAP research community itself,
particularly their tendency toward infighting. He describes staying neutral like Switzerland,

(15:24):
refusing to be pulled into conflicts between different researchers and witnesses.
The bickering undermines credibility when unity might force real disclosure.
Plans for another major UAP hearing keep Shifting, originally scheduled
for July, then pushed to September. The delays stem from
difficulty securing the right witnesses. Brulisson and his colleagues specifically

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want first hand witnesses, people who've had direct experience with
non human intelligence. Many who make bold claims on national
television refuse to testify under oath, z fear career destruction.
Whistleblowers lose benefits, pensions, retirement packages. Others might fear something worse.

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The stigma alone destroys professional reputations built over decades, but
Burlusson insists momentum is building, not stalling. Behind the scenes,
briefings are happening, information is flowing, and leadership changes are
opening previously blocked channels. The Disclosure Task Force gains access

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to information withheld from previous investigations. Witnesses are being identified, categorized,
prepared for potential subpoenas. In a revelation that sent Internet
forums into overdrive, Burlison admitted believing that giants once walked
the earth. As a Christian who takes the Bible literally,
he accepts the account of David and Goliath, the nephelum

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mentioned in Genesis, the giants encountered in Exodus. When pressed
directly about this belief, he couldn't deny it without denying
his faith. This admission connects to broader questions about non
human intelligence throughout human history. Berlson's friend Timothy Alberino, who
researches connections between ancient texts and modern UAP phenomena sees

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patterns spanning millennia, angels arriving with messages than vanishing beings
from the heavens interacting with humanity the same stories, different
names across every culture since recorded history began. Some witnesses
describe modern UAP occupants in terms that echo biblical accounts,

(17:33):
beings of light telepathic communication messages about humanity's future. The
overlap between ancient religious texts and modern encounter reports creates
uncomfortable questions about what our ancestors might have actually experienced.
When David Grush testified about interdimensional beings during congressional hearings,

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he opened to possibility more unsettling than simple extraterrestrial visitors.
Beings from other planets would at least exist in our
same reality, follow our same physics, be bound by our
same limitations. Interdimensional entities operate by different rules. Entirely, They
might exist alongside us, occupying the same space, but in

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a parallel plane. We can't normally perceive like a two
dimensional being trying to understand a three dimensional object passing
through its plane, we might only see cross sections of
something far more complex. Burlison embraces this possibility through quantum physics.
He sees quantum entanglement as proof that reality has layers

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beyond our perception. If consciousness itself exists partially outside our
three dimensional space, if thoughts and observations can affect quantum outcomes,
then intelligence from other dimensions becomes theoretically possible. YouTube places
disclaimers under videos of congressional UAP hearings, labeling discussions of

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reptilian humanoids as mythology and conspiracy theories. Major news outlets
ignore or minimize coverage. The disconnect between the gravity of
congressional testimony and media treatment creates its own kind of
cognitive dissonance. A Pentagon scientist with top secret clearances describes
four species of non human intelligence. A congressman confirms crash

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retrieval programs exist. Former intelligence officials testify about recovered biologics,
yet these revelations barely ripple mainstream consciousness. Berlason predicted this response.
Most people, he said, would read headlines about confirmed alien
contact and simply continue their day. Human psychology normalizes even

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the extraordinary. We adapt, compartmentalize, move forward. Perhaps that's why
disclosure can happen so openly yet remain functionally secret hidden
in plain sight behind a wall of psychological denial. All
these testimonies, briefings, and revelations disturbing patterns crystallize the same

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for classifications appearing in military reports, government briefings, witness testimonies,
technologies that define known physics, entities that communicate through consciousness itself,
government agencies fighting to maintain secrets that members of Congress
can't access. The consistency creates its own kind of proof,

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not the smoking gun of a captured craft or preserved specimen,
but something perhaps more unsettling. A vast apparatus of secrecy
operating for decades, involving multiple agencies, private contractors, and unknown agendas.
The infrastructure required to maintain such secrecy might be more

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frightening than whatever it's hiding. Davis's casual listing of alien
species during a congressional briefing represents either the beginning of
disclosure or the continuation of an elaborate deception. Either possibility
fundamentally changes assumptions about government reality and humanity's place in

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