August 8, 2025 • 14 mins
America’s newest Air Force Under Secretary brings a haunting encounter from the Arizona mountains — and a conviction that plasma beings are watching us.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm Darren Marler, and this is a weird darkness bonus bite.
High in the Tucson Mountains, two teenagers sat in the
darkness when something descended from above. It wasn't a helicopter,
it wasn't a plane. Matthew Lomier, who would later fly
F fifteen fighters and command a space warning squadron, found
himself face to face with a glowing sphere that seemed
(00:29):
to be studying him, with an intelligence that defied explanation.
Twenty years would pass before he understood what he had
seen that night, and the revelation would reshape his understanding
of reality itself. On July twenty fourth, twenty twenty five,
the United States Senate confirmed Matthew Lomyer as the twenty
(00:50):
ninth Undersecretary of the Air Force in a narrow fifty
two to forty six vote. The confirmation hearing had been brutal,
with senators grilling him about his political views and his
controversial departure from military service, but they'd confirmed him anyway,
placing a man with a unique perspective on unidentified phenomena
in charge of organizing, training, and equipping both the Air
(01:11):
Force and Space Force. Lomyer's path to the Pentagon's upper
echelons began at the Air Force Academy in two thousand
and six. He graduated with a degree in social science
and a minor in Mandarin Chinese, a linguistic skill that
would prove prescient given China's suspected involvement in recent drone
incursions over US military facilities. He went on to log
(01:33):
twelve hundred flight hours in T thirty eight trainers and
F fifteen C Eagles, those twin engine air superiority fighters
that once ruled the skies. His military education continued at
the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies, where he
earned degrees in Military Operational Art and Science and a
Master of Philosophy in Military Strategy. When the Space Force
(01:54):
was established, Lomyer transitioned to the new service branch, eventually
commanding a space based in Misis Warning Squadron. He understood threats
from above, both the kind that carry warheads and the
kind that defy conventional explanation. The encounter that would haunt
Lomyer for decades occurred during his high school years. He
(02:14):
was with a female companion in the Tucson Mountains when
they noticed something descending from the night sky. At first,
it appeared to be just a light or enjoy yellowish
in color, but as it drew closer, the true nature
of the object became apparent. The sphere buzzed with what
Lomyer would later describe as life, not mechanical life, not
(02:35):
the hum of engines or electronics, but something organic yet
utterly alien. The surface of the ORB seemed to pulse
and flow with energy patterns that had no earthly parallel.
Most disturbing of all was the distinct impression that this
thing was conscious, and that it was observing them with
intense interest. Fear took hold. The teenagers fled to their
(02:58):
car and drove away as fast as they could. Behind them,
the ORB zipped upward and vanished into the darkness, moving
with a speed and agility that mocked the laws of physics.
For twenty years, Lomier told no one about the encounter,
not his wife of ten years, not his fellow pilots,
not his commanders. The experience lived in that strange mental
(03:19):
compartment where people file things that don't fit into their
understanding of how the world works. In twenty twenty, Lomyer
was watching a documentary called phenomenon with his wife. The
film featured air traffic controllers describing balls of light that
would occasionally appear around airfields, massive orbs that could accelerate instantly,
(03:40):
stop on a dime, and perform maneuvers that would liquefy
any human pilot attempting them. Forty five minutes into the documentary,
Lomyer paused the film. The orbs the controllers were describing
matched exactly what he had seen in Arizona. When he
told his wife he'd witnessed the same domenon, she didn't
(04:01):
believe him. They'd been married a decade and he'd never
mentioned it once before. To prove his sanity, Lomyer did
something that would have seemed impossible before social media. He
tracked down the girl who had been with him that night.
He sent her a Facebook message after twenty years of
no contact, asking simply if she remembered what they had
seen in the mountains. Her response was immediate and unequivocal.
(04:25):
She remembers the big freakin' ball of light UFO thing
perfectly her words. The validation hit Lohemier hard. For two decades,
he'd half convinced himself it had been a trick and
a light a misidentified aircraft, anything but what his eyes
had told him. Now he had confirmation that the impossible
had actually happened. The breakthrough and understanding came in twenty
(04:48):
twenty four when Lohmyer read the book A New Science
of Heaven by Robert Temple. The book's fifth chapter contained
detailed descriptions of ball, lightning, and plasma phenomena that matched
his Arizona encounter with disturbing precision. But these weren't just
random electrical discharges. They were plasmoids, self organizing plasma structures
(05:09):
that exhibit behaviors suggesting consciousness. According to Temple's research, thousands
of people had reported similar encounters. The plasma balls could
move against the wind, passed through solid walls without disturbance,
and appeared to observe human beings with deliberate interest. Witnesses
consistently reported feeling watched or studied by these entities. The
(05:32):
phenomena had been documented appearing inside commercial airliners, rolling down
the aisles while seeming to examine passengers before departing through
the fuselage. They materialized in locked rooms, floated through walls,
and demonstrated an ability to exist in ways that violated
every known law of physics, at least the physics taught
in textbooks. Louhmeyer's scientific background helped him process this information. Plasma,
(05:58):
he learned, makes up ninety nine percent of the visible universe.
It's the fourth state of matter beyond solid liquid and gas.
In space, vast networks of plasma filaments called Burkland currents
connect stars and planets in an electrical web that spans
the cosmos. These currents are invisible to optical telescopes, but
show up clearly in ultraviolet and infrared imaging. The implications
(06:23):
of plasma consciousness sent Lomyre down a rabbit hole that
connected cutting edge physics with ancient religious texts. He noted
that the behavior of these plasma entities matched biblical descriptions
of angels and spirits, beings that could appear in locked rooms,
pass through walls, and manifest as beings of light. This
(06:44):
wasn't the first time Lomyer had encountered forces beyond conventional understanding.
In December two thousand and three, he experienced what he
described as a demonic visitation. He didn't elaborate on the details,
but the experience left him convinced that non physical intelligence,
both benevolent and malevolent, interact with humanity. The plasma hypothesis
(07:06):
offered a scientific framework for phenomena that had been relegated
to the realm of superstition. If consciousness could exist in
plasma form, it would explain centuries of reported supernatural encounters.
These beings wouldn't need spacecraft to travel between worlds. It
could simply manifest wherever conditions allowed. Lohmyer pointed to the
(07:27):
work of Johannes Kepler and other early astronomers who believed
everything in the cosmos was connected by invisible forces. The
Enlightenment had dismissed these ideas as religious nonsense, but modern
plasma cosmology was validating concepts that seemed to bridge science
and spirituality. Now, as Under Secretary of the Air Force,
(07:49):
Lohmyer oversees more than two hundred billion dollars in assets
and nearly seven hundred thousand personnel. He's responsible for addressing
threats to American airspace, including the waves of an identified
drones that have penetrated military facilities since twenty eighteen. His
unique perspective on anomalist phenomena puts him in an interesting position.
(08:09):
The military has traditionally treated UFO encounters either as misidentified
conventional aircraft or classified projects. What if some of these
intrusions aren't technological at all. What if they're plasma phenomena
exhibiting intelligent behavior. The implications for defense strategy are staggering.
(08:29):
Lohmyer's experience with both conventional aviation and anomalist encounters gives
him a perspective few in the Pentagon possess. He knows
what an F fifteen can do. He knows what classified
aircraft looked like, and he knows what he saw in
the Tucson Mountains was neither. His confirmation hearing revealed the
political minefield he navigates. Senators pressed him on his views,
(08:53):
aware of his controversial past and his willingness to speak
about subjects most military officers avoid, but they confirmed anyway,
perhaps recognizing that understanding unconventional threats requires unconventional thinking. Modern
instruments reveal a cosmos far stranger than the empty void
described in textbooks. When viewed through ultraviolet or infrared sensors,
(09:16):
Earth appears to swim through space like a sea creature,
trailing gossamer wings of plasma. The sun connects to every
planet through invisible rivers of charged particles. The entire Solar
system exists within a complex electrical circuit that extends to
the stars. This isn't metaphor, its measurable reality. The Kordelewski Clouds,
(09:37):
massive collections of plasma and dust at Earth Moon lagrange points,
went undetected until recently because they're invisible to optical observation.
How many other plasma structures surround us unseen and unmeasured.
Lomyer's plasma or of exhibited behaviors, suggesting it operated by
different physical laws. It moved against the wind, it accelerate
(10:00):
without inertia. It seemed to observe and react to human presence.
If plasma can self organize into conscious entities, the universe
becomes a far more crowded and unsettling place. The ball
lightning phenomenon Temple describes in his book includes accounts dating
back centuries. Medieval texts describe glowing orbs entering churches during thunderstorms.
(10:25):
Ship logs record balls of light rolling across debts during
electrical storms. Modern witnesses report plasma spheres appearing in homes, offices,
and vehicles, always exhibiting that disturbing quality of apparent consciousness.
Lumeyer's time with the People's Liberation Army and his Mandarin
fluency add another dimension to his role. China has been
(10:47):
repeatedly named as a suspect in the drone incursions plaguing
US military installations. Though what if some of these intrusions
aren't drones at all? What if America's adversaries have learned
to harness or attract plasma phenomena. The intersection of conventional
and unconventional threats defines modern warfare. An under secretary who
(11:09):
speaks Mandarin, understands Chinese military doctrine, and has personally encountered
anomalous phenomena brings a unique skill set to the challenge.
He knows that not every unidentified object in restricted airspace
comes from Beijing or Moscow. Some might come from the
plasma realm that surrounds us all. His public acknowledgment of
(11:31):
witnessing a UFO makes him one of the few senior
military officials to openly discuss such experiences. The stigma that
once ended careers has begun to crack, replaced by a
recognition that ignoring anomalist phenomena leaves dangerous gaps in national defense.
The most unsettling aspect of low Myer's encounter wasn't the
(11:51):
impossible physics or the bizarre appearance of the orb It
was the unmistakable sense of being observed by an intelligence
that existed out sigh conventional reality. The plasma sphere didn't
just move through space. It seemed to perceive, evaluate, and
respond to human presence. This matches thousands of similar accounts.
(12:15):
Witnesses consistently report that plasma phenomena seem interested in humans,
often approaching to observe before departing. Some researchers suggest these
entities feed on electromagnetic energy, possibly explaining their attraction to
power lines, aircraft, and electronic equipment. But Lohmyer's interpretation goes deeper.
He sees potential connections between plasma consciousness and religious experiences
(12:39):
throughout history, Angels appearing to profits, spirits materializing, and locked rooms,
beings of light delivering messages or warnings. What if these
weren't hallucinations or myths, but encounters with plasma based intelligences.
The scientific community remains divided. Mainstream physicists acknowledge that plasma
(13:01):
can exhibit self organizing properties, but stop short of attributing consciousness.
Yet the observational evidence thousands of witnesses reporting intelligent behavior
suggests something more than random electrical phenomena. As Under Secretary
Lomier now oversees projects that push the boundaries of known physics,
hypersonic weapons, directed energy systems, quantum communications. Perhaps somewhere in
(13:26):
those black budgets, researchers are investigating whether plasma phenomena can
be understood, predicted, or even communicated. With the Tucson Mountains
encounter that Lohmyer kept secret for twenty years has become
part of his public narrative. In a position where he
shapes America's aerospace power, he brings the memory of staring
into a glowing orb that stared back, a reminder that
(13:50):
the universe contains intelligences and physics we've barely begun to understand.
You can find a link to this original story in
the episode description, and find more stories of the paranormal,
true crime, strange and more in my blog at Weird
Darkness dot com.
I'm Darren Marler, and this is a weird darkness bonus bite.
High in the Tucson Mountains, two teenagers sat in the
darkness when something descended from above. It wasn't a helicopter,
it wasn't a plane. Matthew Lomier, who would later fly
F fifteen fighters and command a space warning squadron, found
himself face to face with a glowing sphere that seemed
(00:29):
to be studying him, with an intelligence that defied explanation.
Twenty years would pass before he understood what he had
seen that night, and the revelation would reshape his understanding
of reality itself. On July twenty fourth, twenty twenty five,
the United States Senate confirmed Matthew Lomyer as the twenty
(00:50):
ninth Undersecretary of the Air Force in a narrow fifty
two to forty six vote. The confirmation hearing had been brutal,
with senators grilling him about his political views and his
controversial departure from military service, but they'd confirmed him anyway,
placing a man with a unique perspective on unidentified phenomena
in charge of organizing, training, and equipping both the Air
(01:11):
Force and Space Force. Lomyer's path to the Pentagon's upper
echelons began at the Air Force Academy in two thousand
and six. He graduated with a degree in social science
and a minor in Mandarin Chinese, a linguistic skill that
would prove prescient given China's suspected involvement in recent drone
incursions over US military facilities. He went on to log
(01:33):
twelve hundred flight hours in T thirty eight trainers and
F fifteen C Eagles, those twin engine air superiority fighters
that once ruled the skies. His military education continued at
the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies, where he
earned degrees in Military Operational Art and Science and a
Master of Philosophy in Military Strategy. When the Space Force
(01:54):
was established, Lomyer transitioned to the new service branch, eventually
commanding a space based in Misis Warning Squadron. He understood threats
from above, both the kind that carry warheads and the
kind that defy conventional explanation. The encounter that would haunt
Lomyer for decades occurred during his high school years. He
(02:14):
was with a female companion in the Tucson Mountains when
they noticed something descending from the night sky. At first,
it appeared to be just a light or enjoy yellowish
in color, but as it drew closer, the true nature
of the object became apparent. The sphere buzzed with what
Lomyer would later describe as life, not mechanical life, not
(02:35):
the hum of engines or electronics, but something organic yet
utterly alien. The surface of the ORB seemed to pulse
and flow with energy patterns that had no earthly parallel.
Most disturbing of all was the distinct impression that this
thing was conscious, and that it was observing them with
intense interest. Fear took hold. The teenagers fled to their
(02:58):
car and drove away as fast as they could. Behind them,
the ORB zipped upward and vanished into the darkness, moving
with a speed and agility that mocked the laws of physics.
For twenty years, Lomier told no one about the encounter,
not his wife of ten years, not his fellow pilots,
not his commanders. The experience lived in that strange mental
(03:19):
compartment where people file things that don't fit into their
understanding of how the world works. In twenty twenty, Lomyer
was watching a documentary called phenomenon with his wife. The
film featured air traffic controllers describing balls of light that
would occasionally appear around airfields, massive orbs that could accelerate instantly,
(03:40):
stop on a dime, and perform maneuvers that would liquefy
any human pilot attempting them. Forty five minutes into the documentary,
Lomyer paused the film. The orbs the controllers were describing
matched exactly what he had seen in Arizona. When he
told his wife he'd witnessed the same domenon, she didn't
(04:01):
believe him. They'd been married a decade and he'd never
mentioned it once before. To prove his sanity, Lomyer did
something that would have seemed impossible before social media. He
tracked down the girl who had been with him that night.
He sent her a Facebook message after twenty years of
no contact, asking simply if she remembered what they had
seen in the mountains. Her response was immediate and unequivocal.
(04:25):
She remembers the big freakin' ball of light UFO thing
perfectly her words. The validation hit Lohemier hard. For two decades,
he'd half convinced himself it had been a trick and
a light a misidentified aircraft, anything but what his eyes
had told him. Now he had confirmation that the impossible
had actually happened. The breakthrough and understanding came in twenty
(04:48):
twenty four when Lohmyer read the book A New Science
of Heaven by Robert Temple. The book's fifth chapter contained
detailed descriptions of ball, lightning, and plasma phenomena that matched
his Arizona encounter with disturbing precision. But these weren't just
random electrical discharges. They were plasmoids, self organizing plasma structures
(05:09):
that exhibit behaviors suggesting consciousness. According to Temple's research, thousands
of people had reported similar encounters. The plasma balls could
move against the wind, passed through solid walls without disturbance,
and appeared to observe human beings with deliberate interest. Witnesses
consistently reported feeling watched or studied by these entities. The
(05:32):
phenomena had been documented appearing inside commercial airliners, rolling down
the aisles while seeming to examine passengers before departing through
the fuselage. They materialized in locked rooms, floated through walls,
and demonstrated an ability to exist in ways that violated
every known law of physics, at least the physics taught
in textbooks. Louhmeyer's scientific background helped him process this information. Plasma,
(05:58):
he learned, makes up ninety nine percent of the visible universe.
It's the fourth state of matter beyond solid liquid and gas.
In space, vast networks of plasma filaments called Burkland currents
connect stars and planets in an electrical web that spans
the cosmos. These currents are invisible to optical telescopes, but
show up clearly in ultraviolet and infrared imaging. The implications
(06:23):
of plasma consciousness sent Lomyre down a rabbit hole that
connected cutting edge physics with ancient religious texts. He noted
that the behavior of these plasma entities matched biblical descriptions
of angels and spirits, beings that could appear in locked rooms,
pass through walls, and manifest as beings of light. This
(06:44):
wasn't the first time Lomyer had encountered forces beyond conventional understanding.
In December two thousand and three, he experienced what he
described as a demonic visitation. He didn't elaborate on the details,
but the experience left him convinced that non physical intelligence,
both benevolent and malevolent, interact with humanity. The plasma hypothesis
(07:06):
offered a scientific framework for phenomena that had been relegated
to the realm of superstition. If consciousness could exist in
plasma form, it would explain centuries of reported supernatural encounters.
These beings wouldn't need spacecraft to travel between worlds. It
could simply manifest wherever conditions allowed. Lohmyer pointed to the
(07:27):
work of Johannes Kepler and other early astronomers who believed
everything in the cosmos was connected by invisible forces. The
Enlightenment had dismissed these ideas as religious nonsense, but modern
plasma cosmology was validating concepts that seemed to bridge science
and spirituality. Now, as Under Secretary of the Air Force,
(07:49):
Lohmyer oversees more than two hundred billion dollars in assets
and nearly seven hundred thousand personnel. He's responsible for addressing
threats to American airspace, including the waves of an identified
drones that have penetrated military facilities since twenty eighteen. His
unique perspective on anomalist phenomena puts him in an interesting position.
(08:09):
The military has traditionally treated UFO encounters either as misidentified
conventional aircraft or classified projects. What if some of these
intrusions aren't technological at all. What if they're plasma phenomena
exhibiting intelligent behavior. The implications for defense strategy are staggering.
(08:29):
Lohmyer's experience with both conventional aviation and anomalist encounters gives
him a perspective few in the Pentagon possess. He knows
what an F fifteen can do. He knows what classified
aircraft looked like, and he knows what he saw in
the Tucson Mountains was neither. His confirmation hearing revealed the
political minefield he navigates. Senators pressed him on his views,
(08:53):
aware of his controversial past and his willingness to speak
about subjects most military officers avoid, but they confirmed anyway,
perhaps recognizing that understanding unconventional threats requires unconventional thinking. Modern
instruments reveal a cosmos far stranger than the empty void
described in textbooks. When viewed through ultraviolet or infrared sensors,
(09:16):
Earth appears to swim through space like a sea creature,
trailing gossamer wings of plasma. The sun connects to every
planet through invisible rivers of charged particles. The entire Solar
system exists within a complex electrical circuit that extends to
the stars. This isn't metaphor, its measurable reality. The Kordelewski Clouds,
(09:37):
massive collections of plasma and dust at Earth Moon lagrange points,
went undetected until recently because they're invisible to optical observation.
How many other plasma structures surround us unseen and unmeasured.
Lomyer's plasma or of exhibited behaviors, suggesting it operated by
different physical laws. It moved against the wind, it accelerate
(10:00):
without inertia. It seemed to observe and react to human presence.
If plasma can self organize into conscious entities, the universe
becomes a far more crowded and unsettling place. The ball
lightning phenomenon Temple describes in his book includes accounts dating
back centuries. Medieval texts describe glowing orbs entering churches during thunderstorms.
(10:25):
Ship logs record balls of light rolling across debts during
electrical storms. Modern witnesses report plasma spheres appearing in homes, offices,
and vehicles, always exhibiting that disturbing quality of apparent consciousness.
Lumeyer's time with the People's Liberation Army and his Mandarin
fluency add another dimension to his role. China has been
(10:47):
repeatedly named as a suspect in the drone incursions plaguing
US military installations. Though what if some of these intrusions
aren't drones at all? What if America's adversaries have learned
to harness or attract plasma phenomena. The intersection of conventional
and unconventional threats defines modern warfare. An under secretary who
(11:09):
speaks Mandarin, understands Chinese military doctrine, and has personally encountered
anomalous phenomena brings a unique skill set to the challenge.
He knows that not every unidentified object in restricted airspace
comes from Beijing or Moscow. Some might come from the
plasma realm that surrounds us all. His public acknowledgment of
(11:31):
witnessing a UFO makes him one of the few senior
military officials to openly discuss such experiences. The stigma that
once ended careers has begun to crack, replaced by a
recognition that ignoring anomalist phenomena leaves dangerous gaps in national defense.
The most unsettling aspect of low Myer's encounter wasn't the
(11:51):
impossible physics or the bizarre appearance of the orb It
was the unmistakable sense of being observed by an intelligence
that existed out sigh conventional reality. The plasma sphere didn't
just move through space. It seemed to perceive, evaluate, and
respond to human presence. This matches thousands of similar accounts.
(12:15):
Witnesses consistently report that plasma phenomena seem interested in humans,
often approaching to observe before departing. Some researchers suggest these
entities feed on electromagnetic energy, possibly explaining their attraction to
power lines, aircraft, and electronic equipment. But Lohmyer's interpretation goes deeper.
He sees potential connections between plasma consciousness and religious experiences
(12:39):
throughout history, Angels appearing to profits, spirits materializing, and locked rooms,
beings of light delivering messages or warnings. What if these
weren't hallucinations or myths, but encounters with plasma based intelligences.
The scientific community remains divided. Mainstream physicists acknowledge that plasma
(13:01):
can exhibit self organizing properties, but stop short of attributing consciousness.
Yet the observational evidence thousands of witnesses reporting intelligent behavior
suggests something more than random electrical phenomena. As Under Secretary
Lomier now oversees projects that push the boundaries of known physics,
hypersonic weapons, directed energy systems, quantum communications. Perhaps somewhere in
(13:26):
those black budgets, researchers are investigating whether plasma phenomena can
be understood, predicted, or even communicated. With the Tucson Mountains
encounter that Lohmyer kept secret for twenty years has become
part of his public narrative. In a position where he
shapes America's aerospace power, he brings the memory of staring
into a glowing orb that stared back, a reminder that
(13:50):
the universe contains intelligences and physics we've barely begun to understand.
You can find a link to this original story in
the episode description, and find more stories of the paranormal,
true crime, strange and more in my blog at Weird
Darkness dot com.
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