Redheads: Aliens, Atlanteans, or Something Stranger?

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
We redheads. Yes, I am one. We have it tough.
We grew up being the target of bullying in grade
school with nicknames of freckle face, ketchup head, or ginger.
I think my favorite was Duracel because I was the
one with the copper top. We also have it rough
when it comes to being outside thanks to our fair complexion.

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When it comes to a suntan, I have two colors,
white and extra crispy. But then there are also the
strange conspiracies, such as redheads are going to be extinct
in the next one hundred years, or that we're from Atlantis,
or we aren't really from the planet Earth at all
and are possible reptilian extraterrestrials. Okay, that last one might

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be true, but some of the ideas people have about
redheads can be truly bizarre. I'm Darren Marler and this
is Weird Darkness. Welcome, weirdos. I'm Darren Marler and this

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is Weird Darkness. Here you'll find stories of the paranormal, supernatural, legends, lore, crime, conspiracy, mysterious, macabre,
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Was it the ghost of a murdered woman or something stranger?
A farmer with a large spread and two beautiful daughters
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Slipping on ice and breaking his leg, will renowned psychologist

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Carl Young was rushed to medical care and fell into unconsciousness.
What happened while he was passed out would determine the
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and a passion for the occult. In the bad lands
of Arizona, people unexpectedly die, others disappear without a trace,

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and it might all be connected to a treasure that
is rumored to be cursed. Sharing an apartment with roommates
can be either a good thing or a bad thing.
Like coming home and finding a strange man on the couch.
Obviously one of your roommate's friends who's crashing for the night.
But what if that guy on the couch gives you

(02:44):
the creeps? There might be good reason for that feeling.
In December twenty fourteen, a teenager in Economy, Pennsylvania called
nine to one one and calmly said, I found a head,
and thus began a missy, which is still unsolved. But first,

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people have strange ideas about redheads, and we'll look at
some of the strangest. We begin there. Now, bult your doors,
lock your windows, turn off your lights, and come with
me into the weird darkness as a redhead myself. Whilst

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scouring the Internet for information about red hair, I've come
across countless strange beliefs and conspiracies. A lot of them
are fascinating, some are fantastic. For the most part, people
will find these ideas amusing, possibly even ludicrous. But there
will be others who have a slight doubt in the
back of their minds about what is true or false

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about us gingers. What is true what is false? Maybe
the truth is stranger than we'd all care to imagine.
One peculiar Internet article I came across carried the heading
the Master Race becomes Friendly Aliens. In it, the writer
explains how the familiar Nazi agenda is still being propagated

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by aliens of Germanic, Celtic and Anglo Saxon stock. These
aliens in question are generally called Nordics by the UFO community,
and the writer describes them thusly. They are tall, blonde
or red hair, with blue eyes. They average in height
from six to six and a half feet tall, with
some reported to be as tall as eight feet. The

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article continues stating, consistent to the reports throughout the world
in regards to Nordics is the near perfect physical appearance.
No one has ever reported plain or physically deficient members
in their company. Just what one may expect if you
had choice in the matter through controlled genetics. Another message
board article I came across was titled our Redhead's DNA

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of alien origin. On it was posted this there was
another race that has branched off from this giant race,
the red haired Lyrons. Their hair was red to strawberry
blonde in color. The skin town very very fair. These
entities had a difficulty exposing their skin to certain frequencies
of natural light due to the planet they sprang from.

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Some of these were also giant in stature, though there
were some who were average human sized. Eye color was
generally light to what you would now consider green, though
it is a different quality of green than you see
upon your world. These entities were some of the first
Lyron pioneers. Pioneers is a very kind word, for there

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are many worlds that consider the red haired ones to
be the invaders, marauders, and the basic havoc wreakers of
the Lyrons. G Ee, no time. I've since read that
the Lyrons are quite well known in the euphological circles,
and that, as the article states, they are generally seen
as being red haired. The post continues making a link

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between these red haired Lyrons and the Redhead's on Earth.
Well to some degree, we are speaking about the distant past,
as they interacted with your earthplane. These entities still exist,
but are much fewer in number. We would say that
your closest mythological remnants are in your Norse mythology, vikings, etc.

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Some of that mythology was about actual Earth beings who
were either influenced by or interacted with this red headed
Lyron strain. This is not a very common interaction on
your world, not as common as that of the giants,
but common enough to have made it into your mythology.
The post carries on, apparently there's a remnant of a

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red haired group and the Pleiades. The Fleadian version is
much more watered down, but the pure bred redhead was
very aggressive, violent, passionate, and to some degree, very rebellious.
The article also asks the question did these red haired
people naturally evolve as red haired or was their intentional manipulation?

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Somewhere along the line, I keep imagining an episode of
Star Trek where Captain Kirk lands on a planet inhabited
entirely by gingers. In fact, the post reminds me of
the famous Villa BoA's abduction case case concerning a young
Brazilian farmer named Antonio Villa Boas who was apparently abducted

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by a UFO and forced into a liaison with a
beautiful alien woman who had red pubic hair. Incidentally, I
also remember watching a TV show about UFO abductions a
while back that stated that there had been a spate
of abduction cases in Turkey that all specified red haired aliens.
It's amazing the number of articles I've come across on

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the Internet that associate red hair with royalty and ruling elites.
In fact, one comment I read on a blog about
world political leaders stated, another disproportional thing in politics is
hair color. The number of leaders who have red hair
is actually amazing how many of the founding fathers of
the USA were redheads, Lenin and Trotsky, Malcolm x. How

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much of the royal families, Cleopatra, Napoleon, Alexander the Great
seems like red hair and conquering the world go together.
The comment also relates some of his own personal experience
of living with the color. When I walk sometimes past
old Colombian women, they cross themselves and you can hear
them say in Spanish things against the devil. Another article

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I came across associated red hair with secret societies. The
writer of this particular article linked red hair with the
symbol of the rose and wrote, it's all about the rose.
It means rose cross or red cross of the Templars.
It is found in Roseline or rosalin in the chapel
of the Saint Clair's. And as strange as this may sound,

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red hair is their characteristic feature. Continued. It is a
sign of descent from the Edamites, or more specifically the
Scythians of southern Russia, who were the Lost Tribes. They
were known to the Jews of the Middle Ages as
Red Jews. They later became Khazars. All the leading bloodlines
of Europe descend from them. That's the point of Dan

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Brown's book that da Vinci painted the Magdalen with red hair.
It is the ultimate signal. I found one foray into
red hair conspiracy lurking in the review section on Amazon.
It was a review for the book Henry Neville and
the Shakespeare Code by Brenda James, a book that questions
the authorship of the works of Shakespeare. The enthusiastic reviewer wrote,

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my theory is that a Elizabeth the First was not
a virgin and had at least eight children, among them Oxford, Bacon, Neville, Philip,
and Mary Sidney. I think their adoptive father was Elizabeth's
half brother Essex Cecil Junior and Southampton. You'll find an
act of Parliament passed when she was fifty saying that
the issue of her body will be her heirs, not

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her legally born children. If you remember, that was what
caused Henry the Yate's troubles. He did have illegitimate children,
but tried impossibly hard to get a legal son, even
changing the religion in England to do so. Every other
king in Europe had tons of illegitimate children, so why
not Elizabeth. Elizabeth's very first letter to Cecil when she

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is thirteen or fourteen, asks him to squash the rumors
going around that she is pregnant. It goes on and on.
Elizabethan history is a whole lot more interesting to me.
Now everything fits for the first time, all those loose
ends that made no sense. Why did Lester adopt essex
well his own son by Elizabeth? Why did Elizabeth make

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Cecil a baron the day before his daughter was married
because his daughter was marrying Elizabeth's own first son. It
is endless. I could go on for hours. The modern
world was created by Elizabeth's bastards. They were all placed
by Cecil, brilliantly educated and given the European tour. Some
of the plays are quite possibly a family effort. It
is a big story, a Hollywood blockbuster. Somebody will do

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it one day. Look at the portraits of Elizabeth's children.
They all have thin faces with curly orangery hair like
their parents. I believe that if both parents have red hair,
the children must also have red hair too. Is that right?
Leister was with Elizabeth for about fifteen years. I think
they found his last letter to her on the desk
next to her bed when she died. Although the tone

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of this review amuses me somewhat, I must admit that
the issue does fill me with suspicion. I don't think
the Virgin Queen had a children, but personally I'd be
surprised if she had none either. And it is true
that Henry Neville had red hair, as did Leicester and Elizabeth.
The same reviewer then wrote another piece, this time in

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the review section of the book Oxford, Son of Queen Elizabeth,
the First by Paul Streits, continuing on the same theme.
Compare the pictures of Henry the Eighth, Elizabeth, Edward de Vere,
Sir Henry Neville, and Henry Riothesley, the Earl of Southampton.
They all have red hair and look remarkably similar. It's
beginning to look like Edward and the two Henry's could

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have been brothers. Brilliant. And then there's the Atlantean diaspora.
In many ways, this continues on the theme of red
haired rulers. Of all the theories about red hair on
the Internet, this one seems to be the most abundant,
and it goes something like this. All the ancient civilizations

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of prehistory were started and ruled by seafaring redheads who
originally came from a land over the sea, often but
not always equated with Atlantis. The evidence for this can
be found in ancient myths and in the mummified remains
of red headed people discovered around the globe. For the
most part, these theories begin in ancient Egypt and are

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centered around the fact that many mummies have been found
displaying red hair. Needless to say, these finds have led
to much speculation about the origin of the ancient Egyptians
and their glorious culture. The basic premise of the theory
being that red haired survivors from Atlantis at some point
arrived and sowed the seeds of civilization. That you can imagine,

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a lot of this speculation is wildly inventive. One Internet
article I read titled red haired Mummies of Egypt began
with this statement, there were the blue bloods of ancient times,
which extended into European times. They actually did have blue blood,
and it was not hemoglobin based but copper based. They

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were semi human. There are still to this day some
animal species in South America that have copper based blood systems.
There was a problem with hemophilia, and not because of intermarrying.
The problem was that they started to marry outside of
the copper based blood system. Hemoglobin and copper systems don't mix.
That's where the laws against marrying commoners originated. Lobsters, octopuses, squids,

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and horseshoe crabs have copper based blue blood. Incidentally, Egypt
isn't the only place where red haired mummies have been found.
They've been found as far afield as China and Peru.
The Tarum mummies were found in what is now present
day shing Xiang, China, and some of them possessed red hair. Likewise,

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in Peru, mummies have been found with striking red locks.
Other discoveries of red haired mummies have come in Polynesia
and the Canary Islands. In fact, both these places are
or were noted for red haired people. The Canary Islands
was the home of the Gaunchies, a red haired tribe
that built monuments which can still be seen on the

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islands today, and red haired people have been noted sporadically
throughout parts of Polynesia, including New Zealand. One Internet writer
relayed the following legend. One Kirabodi legend describes eels or
serpents coming ashore, who turned into red haired men when
they swam ashore. Another legend, Boo the Ancestor, describes one

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of these red men copulating with a woman who was
bathing in the shallows sunrise. The legend describes the sun
entering her lloins, suggesting a child of the sun was
born to her. When this child grew up, he set
sail to the East's America to look for his ancestors.
The writer also noted the Urikiu, or redheads among the

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Mawory are believed to have come from a hot dry
land to the east. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the writer elaborated by
making reference to Atlantis. I'm not suggesting that Englishmen came
and did the Jack in the Green dance in front
of the Toli, nor that a Scottish mason jumped ship
and taught these people a secret handshake. What I am

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saying is that both European and Pacific cultures have a
common link a long long way back in time, possibly
in Atlantis eleven five hundred years ago. The ancient culture
of Atlantis was not just carried on by the Egyptians,
but was also carried on by the red haired civilization
of Tulapin or terrapin Turtle Island, and were a dominant

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population in America until six thousand years ago. One particular
interest in regards red hair is Easter Island. An article
in the Forty Times about the island stated ethnically, Rapa
Nui are Polynesian, though peeler skinned, and with an a
novelist genetic trait of red hair dating from before first

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contact with Europeans. It should also be noted that the
law statues on the island all have top knots of
red stone. Many believe that these represent red hair. Although
I often make light of these ideas, it must be
said that the presence of red hair so far afield
is actually quite interesting. It either suggests that red hair

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blossoms accidentally in populations rather easily, or that there was
a lot more migration in prehistory than modern experts would
have us believe. Another interesting thing I came across on
this general theme was the story of Lovelock Cave. This
is apparently a cave in Nevada that was found to
contain the remains of red haired giants. The story goes

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that the Piutes, a tribe of natives who inhabited the area,
were at war with these giants and killed them off
by ambushing them in the cave. One web page I
came across stated, growing up in Nevada, I'd heard stories
of the Sideka from the Piute Indians that lived in
the area. They told of red hair aired men and
women of light colored skin as tall as twelve feet

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who originally lived in the area when the Piutes had
first arrived. Evidently, these human giants liked to eat the Indians,
so they had problems making friends. The Indian tribes of
the area finally joined and ambushed the giants, killing most
of them on the spot. Some of the comments on
the page make particularly good reading. One posted, nice hub,

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I asked some of the old people about these so
called red haired giants. I don't know what was more surprising,
your hub or the fact one of your respected elders
not only had a name for them, but could tell
me prominent ancestors who migrated hundreds of years ago to
this land through the Polynesian Islands who were fair, had
red hair, and were so called giants. I was gobsmacked.

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He was talking as if it were common knowledge. Another said,
I've been to barber in Nevada for thirty five years,
and I cut many Piutes men's hair. I've heard the
stories about the red haired giants for many years. The
older ones told me the giants ate some of their
great great grandparents, and the story about going to Lovelock
to kill them is absolutely true according to many of

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these men. And the final mention, I am Piute and
have heard of these giants. I'm from Oregon near the
Nevada border and have heard of the Piutes and Nevada
talk of these red haired giants. I heard where these
giants lived in caves and did eat some of the natives.
I can only begin to imagine what other stories are

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lurking out there on the Internet waiting to be discovered.
For the most part, I have found these ideas amusing
and not at all credible. But then I'm a redhead,
so why would you believe anything I have to say
about the matter. I'm probably an extraterrestrial reptilian or an
Atlantean trying to keep the truth from coming out. You
never know coming up. In December twenty fourteen, a teenager

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in Economy, Pennsylvania called nine to one one and calmly said,
I found a head, and thus began a mystery which
is still unsolved. But first, sharing an apartment with roommates
can be either a good thing or a bad thing.
Like coming home and finding a strange man on the couch.
Obviously one of your roommate's friends who's crashing for the night.

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But what if that guy on the couch gives you
the creeps? There might be good reason for that feeling.
That story is up next on Weird Darkness. This happened

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when I was in college. I lived in is the
student community at UCSB, notorious for being a party school.
It fully lived up to its reputation. I liked to party,
but holy cow, these people were off the wall. As such,
there were a lot of people who put themselves in
dangerous situations, drinking to excess, not being careful, not locking doors, etc.

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It had a very isolated and insular vibe, and everyone
who was hanging around who wasn't college aged immediately looked
at a place and strange. One night, after having a
few drinks, I came home to my small house where
I lived with two other girls, probably around two thirty am.
We were all serious students. I was probably the least serious, actually,

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and when we partied. It was not your typical USCB
mega rager, more like a small get together with friends.
We would often have a few people spend the night
sleep on our furniture or in our beds, as the
case may be. That night, my roommates had had a
few people over who I didn't know, and I saw
when I returned home that one of them had opted

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to sleep on the couch. From the shadow that I
saw there, I didn't turn the light on so I
wouldn't wake anyone up. But as I was passing the
couch to enter my bedroom, I noticed that the figure
was lying very stiff. He just had this weird energy
to him. He was lying down, but it was like
he was putting all of his energy into lying as
still and rigid as possible. I paused, and the guy

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quickly jerked his head to face me without moving his limbs.
So quickly it actually startled me. I could see his
wide open eyes glinting in the dark. Figuring that I
had startled him, or that he was drunk or maybe
on some kind of stimulant and unable to sleep. I
just hurried past into my bedroom and locked the door.
The dude made me nervous, and I wasn't taking any chances.

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I fell asleep at four point thirty am. I woke up.
There was a strange sound at the door, almost like
somebody was drumming their fingers against the wood very quietly.
I lay still and listened. There were more quiet sounds,
like someone scratching the door with their fingers, which got
louder and louder, until it was clear that he was

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using both hands and scratching as fast and as hard
as possible. He created an extremely loud and intimidating sound
that filled me with fear. I got my cell phone
and texted my roommate because I was afraid to make
a sound. Your friend just freaking me out? Is he
coked out? Can you talk to him? He's banging and
scratching on my door? I texted. She didn't text me back,

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probably because she was asleep. I texted my other roommate
to the same effect, covering all my bases. Keep in
mind that the scratching has been going on at this
point for a couple of minutes. I have no idea
how he could have sustained it. Scratching a wooden door
with your fingernails can't feel good. He also grabbed the
knob and jiggled it super forcefully. Because neither of them answered,

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I decided to call and really wait them up, though
I was scared to make a sound. I know it
sounds stupid, but there was something seriously horrifying about being
teased like this through the door. I knew that he
was trying to terrify me. Felt like a little kid.
But I could tell this guy was messed up or something,
and maybe the police needed to be called, and I

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wanted to loot my roommates in since it was one
of their friends. The scratching stopped abruptly, and I called
my roommate, who answered sleepily, Yo, your friend is messed up.
Can you please deal with it? Do we need to
call the cops? He's seriously scaring me and he was
scratching at my bedroom door, really efing weird. She didn't

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say anything for several seconds, and when she did speak,
her voice had no sleepiness in it at all. What friend?
She said, that guy who was sleeping on the couch?
I said, she was quiet again, We didn't have any
guys over, she said, call the police. My adrenaline sir,
and I told her to please lock the bedroom door

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as quickly as possible. I realized that I hadn't heard
scratching in a while, and I had no clue where
the dede had gone. Suddenly I heard a loud banging
in the other end of the house, where my roommates,
Lauren and Monica shared a bedroom. The bangs were followed
by the sound of them screaming in fear. I quickly
dialed the police as this maniac proceeded to bang against

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the luckily locked bedroom door of my two roommates as
they screamed. The heaviness of the blows left no doubt
he was trying to break the door down. I told
the nine one one operator the situation, and she dispatched
two squad cars. The police and Islavista are generally used
to peeling drunks off the sidewalk and breaking up brawling

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frat bros. This was really serious and strange when I
think the dispatcher got the sense from my tone how
terrified I was, and she stayed on the phone with me.
At one point, the banging stopped and everything was quiet
for a while. I talk with the dispatcher and suddenly
looked down to see that this guy had slipped his
fingers through the one inch gap between my door and

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the floor and was just kind of waggling them around,
making this weird growling sound. I screamed and backed away,
which is my biggest regret about this situation, since when
I look back, it would have been so awesome to
just stomp those fingers and hear the guy howl in pain.
When the cops rolled up, I heard running and the
sound of our sliding glass door opening and closing, and

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then he was gone. The cops never caught him. He
had broken in through our side door by jimmying the
lock somehow. My door was covered in what turned out
to be huge gashes that he'd made using a pair
of scissors, which he discarded on the ground before he left.
What terrifies me most about this was that I walked

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right past him. I looked him right in the face.
I realized now he was not trying to sleep or
on drugs, but was lying so stiff like that because
he was hiding. He probably hurt me open the door
and freaked out because he hadn't realized there was another
girl living there, and tried to blend into the couch
in the darkness. The woman's severed head lay in the

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woods ten yards off a rural road in Economy, Pennsylvania.
Her mouth was open, her eyes were closed, her hair
was gray and fluffy. A teenager spotted her about half
past noon on December twelfth, twenty fourteen. Moments later, police
say the boy called nine one one, I found a

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human head, he calmly told the operator. Today, many years
after the discovery, the woman's identity remains a mystery. Authorities
haven't determined how or when she died, her age, why
she was decapitated, or how her head came to rest
off Mason Road in this town of twelve thousand, not

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far from Pittsburgh. Despite an initial flurry of tips, police
say they have no suspects, but they do have a
leading theory. They believe the head may have been severed
by a so called bodybroker, someone who sells body parts
from a cadaver donated to science. She was dismembered professionally,

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said Michelle Vitally, an anatomy professor at Edinburgh University near
Erie who closely examined the head. It's part of the
body part's trade, she said. Pathologist Cyril Weckt, a veteran
of more than twenty thousand autopsies, agreed that the cutting
was not done by an amateur. We see a rather
neat surgical dissection. Weck said, after examining crime scene photos,

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somebody took their time. One reason the head may have
come from the body trade. The industry has been linked
to similar abuses in the past. Reuters has identified thousands
of body parts that have been misused or desecrated since
two thousand and four. In the case of Detroit based
bodybroker Arthur Rathburn, authorities alleged that he stored human heads

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by stacking them directly on top of each other without
any protective barrier. Rathburn faced trial in January twenty fifteen,
charged with defrauding healthcare clients by misleading them about infected
human remains and with lying to federal agents. Typically, however,
authorities stumble across these cases only by happenstance. An airline

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employee in Arkansas discovered forty severed heads being shipped in
plastic containers in twenty ten. A couple of years later,
in Texas, police found an entire cadaver lying by the
side of the road. It had fallen from a van
on the way to a bodybroker in Colorado. The driver,
Reuters reported at the time, hadn't noticed that the body

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was missing. Complicating the Pennsylvania case, bodies and parts can
be bought, sold, and leased across America with relative ease.
That makes determining the origins of remains like the head
found in Economy, Pennsylvania difficult, if not impossible. There are
so many places where you can get these parts by

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Tally said, but it's hard to trace back. Police say
they'll likely need the public's help to solve what they
call the most bizarre case they've handled years. Plugging away
at this thing got nowhere drives me crazy, said Andrew
gall a chief of detectives for the Beaver County District
Attorney's Office. I've been doing this job for a long time.

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I hadn't had anything where I had a body part
like this turn up. In the days after the head
was found, authorities used cadaver dogs to scour the area.
They also sought DNA from the woman whose head had
been embalmed, but those efforts yielded nothing. They uncovered no
evidence in the forest, and the remains held no DNA,

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it had been destroyed by the US embalming chemicals, according
to authorities. Police brought in Vitally, who is also a
forensic artist, and released a sketch and clay model that
she created to show what the woman might have looked
like alive. Investigators set up a telephone hotline and initially
figured a grave robber might be to blame. I felt

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that if we put this out at any moment, the
phone was going to ring with that information. Gaul said
that call never came quickly. The case of the bodyless woman,
whom they now call Jane Doe, went cold, and the
remaining clues seemed bewildering. At the local morgue, authorities found
eye caps, a mortician's tool to keep the lids closed,

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in each of her eyes. But beneath those eye caps
lay a surprise, a small red rubber ball in each
of Jane Doe's otherwise empty eye sockets. The balls continue
to baffle investigators and mortuary experts, who say that they
have never heard of red rubber balls being used to
replace removed eyes. At least one company makes spheres that

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double as eye caps, but they are vastly different in
color and texture than the balls found in the woman's sockets.
Her eyes may have been taken through organ donation, but
if Jane Doe died recently, it's likely that an eyebank
or an organ procurement organization would only remove the cornea
from an eye, said West Culp, Deputy pressed Secretary of

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the Pennsylvania Department of Health. A bodybroker, on the other hand,
might remove and sell the full eye for research purposes.
Laws governing organ donation and the bodybroker business differ substantially.
Transplantation organizations are strictly regulated, but body brokers are not.
But why fill the empty sockets with the red balls?

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Using cotton to fill the space is cheaper? Red rubber
balls these marked china are not used in either the
funeral profession or in organ donor networks, said Kevin Moran,
an embalming instructor at the American Academy McAllister Institute of
Funeral Service in New York. In my forty years of
doing this, I've never seen that, he said. The use

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of caps in Jane Doe's eye sockets was very professional,
Moran said, And yet part of it is the rubber
balls you get with a ball and Jack's set. It
doesn't make sense. The situation also perplexes Detective Gall, who
hadn't ruled out another scenario. Proved to me, it's not
a homicide as she was alive and someone killed her

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and played with that body, he said, including putting the
red eyeballs in there. If anyone's likely to identify Jane Doe,
it might be a dentist. The thorities found a full
set of teeth inside the woman's mouth and took X rays.
Dennis at the University of Buffalo School of Dental Medicine
examined the head and determined that work had been done

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on every single tooth, one of them as many as
seven times using one of the three teeth they pulled.
The dentists also found what they believe to be a
filling compound that wasn't available to dentists before two thousand
and four, meaning the woman likely died some time thereafter.
Based on their examination, dentists Raymond Miller and Peter Bush

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were able to posit a possible profile of Jane Doe,
a lower income woman who had many cavities and may
have grown up where the water wasn't fluoridated. She probably
lacked top notch dental insurance that would have covered crowns,
but may have had a cheaper plan that paid for fillings.
Miller said the work on her mouth was what Miller
called patchwork dentistry, in which problems are addressed only when necessary. Still,

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the work was well done. Both dentists agreed somebody took
good care of her. Miller said every tooth is filled
or fixed in her mouth. The extent of that work
would make her an easy id if we had any
kind of information about her. Investigators all but eliminated Great
Gave Robbery. No recent cases had been reported that involved

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a missing head, and that left Detective Gall asking where
does the head come from? Authorities turned to anatomy professor
and forensic artist y Tally. Jean Doe's skin had been
cut raggedly around the front of her neck, but the
cut beneath the skin was smooth and exact. Mytali also
noticed two slits on the back of the neck, and

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the woman's cervical spine was gone. The cuts suggested the
spine was explicitly removed, an indication that Jane Doe's head
was used in the body parts industry by Tally and
others said, when we lifted the flap at the back
of the neck, we could see that the whole purpose
of that was to access the key joint that would
preserve both the head and the vertebral column, thereby maximizing

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the profitability of both. By Tally said, X rays of
the head clearly show the vertebra are missing. This is
not anybody going with a kitchen knife or any thing remotely
like that. By Tally said, it was well done and
it was placed perfectly. By Tally's observations gave rise to
the body broker theory and a new approach to attacking

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the mystery. One of the things we considered doing was
purchasing a human head, said Michael O'Brien, Economy's police chief.
By Tally would lead the effort. If we just went
out and bought another human head, what would we find,
by Tally wondered, it was really as simple as that.
The hope was that investigators might learn two things. We

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were looking to see the ease or difficulty level of
purchasing that head, O'Brien said, and then to see what
that head actually looked like as far as where the
head was cut. But authorities decided not to proceed. They
reasoned that any body broker who vetted vitally easily could
have found media reports mentioning her connection to the case,
and balked at selling to her, believing her purchase was

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a setup. After learning of the abandoned effort, Reuters decided
to move forward for some of the same reasons that
inspired Pennsylvania authorities. Could a head be purchased easily from
a bodybroker, would the cuts be similar, and would the
cervical spine be removed? A broker in Tennessee with no
ties to the case, James Bird, already had sold the

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news agency a cervical spine. A few months earlier. Bird
informed Reuter's reporter Brian Grow that he could also supply
human heads for about three hundred dollars each plus shipping.
In January, Grow purchased two heads and asked a medical
researcher to compare the way those heads were severed with
photos of how Jane Doe's head was cut in the

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Pennsylvania case. The manner in which the heads sold to
Grow were severed supports the theory that a bodybroker somewhere,
once handled Jane Doe's head, according to an anatomist Reuter's consultant.
Of particular note were the similarities in the internal cuts
between the heads Reuters purchased and the head found in Penn,

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Slovenia that Angela MacArthur, who leads the Anatomical Bequest program
at the University of Minnesota. MacArthur examined the heads bought
by Reuter's and reviewed photos of Jane Doe's head. Based
on the police photos, MacArthur noted that the surgical cuts
on the posterior portion of her neck, along with the
carotid artery, the trachea, and the esophagus also make me

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think that this was a procurement of her cervical spine
similarities aside. MacArthur also said she was troubled but neither
of the heads Reuters purchased had an identification tag that
marked the head itself. Although such tags are not required
by law, MacArthur considers them critical to track the donor's identity.

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Without it, the head found by the side of a road,
just like Jane does, might never be identified. Authorities have
tried other approaches to solving the case. They examined isotopes
from oxygen molecules that remained in the woman's teeth and
hair to determine where Jane Doe may have spent her
last few months. The answer, not surprisingly included the region

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near where her head was found and stretches into surrounding states,
including West Virginia, but the analysis of the isotopes also
indicated that she did not live in Beaver County in
the months before her death. Toxicology tests also suggest the
woman may have suffered from chronic pain and that paramedics
tried to resuscitate her around the time of her death.

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Authorities believe she was older than fifty when she died.
Gall a forty year law enforcement veteran who takes pride
in solving cold cases, says he is staying on the pursuit.
I just won't give up hope because I keep thinking
that something is going to break this loose for us.
Gall said, someone is going to think of something that's
going to help us solve this. You can see a

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sketch of the woman's face as she might have appeared
in life by clicking the link in the show notes
on the photo. You'll also find a phone number and
email address if you can help solve the mystery. Some

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places have long been thought to be simply no good, cursed, blighted, tainted,
whatever you want to call it. Out In the remote
bad lands of the US state of Arizona, just to
the east of the Phoenix metropolitan area, lies a sun scorched,
dried up, arid moonscape of twisted peaks and sprawling expanse

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of badlands called the Superstition Mountains, at one time called
the Sierra de la Espuma by Spanish settlers. Here is
a place of sprawling, rugged wilderness, encompassing the Superstition Wilderness
Area and drawing in hikers, rock climbers, campers in all
manner of those looking to enjoy the natural splendor and

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outdoor activities on offer. Yet it is also a place
of fable mysteries, talk of dark curses, strange disappearances and deaths,
high strangeness, and a secret treasure that it allegedly holds
close to it, reluctant to ever give it up. The
native Apache people of the area had already long held

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this as a rather sinister, sacred place, even before outsiders
came in to settle the land. They believed that the
entrance to the underworld itself lay somewhere in among those peaks,
and that powerful spirits roamed the withered landscape. There were
also strange stories among the Apache of a magnificent hidden

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cavern full of gold, said to be a vast treasure,
long buried within the mountains and protected by spirits, troll
like beasts called Tartans, and even their thunder god himself.
According to these legends, this treasure was almost never seen
by mortal eyes, at least not by anyone who lived

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tell about it, but there are some tales of outsiders
stumbling across it. One of the most prominent of such
tales is that of an affluent mining family from Mexico,
the Peraltas. Although some versions of the story say that
they were ranchers, the main thing is that they supposedly
accidentally found this ancient Apache treasure somewhere in the mountains,

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but it was to spell their doom. According to the story,
the Apaches quickly descended upon the family to ruthlessly slaughter
all of them, but one left alives solely to tell
the tale, not to mess with the lost mind to
anyone who would listen. The Apache warriors who had massacred
them are then said to have reburied the entrance of

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this enormous trove of gold, and this day the area
where this is believed to have happened has been labeled
the Massacre Grounds, and there are other places names that
this grim history, such as Massacre Falls and others. The
Peralta family would go on to be suspected of having
left some evidence behind of their discovery, in the form

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of a series of odd stones mysteriously etched with codes, pictographs,
and cryptic messages written out in imperfect Latin, which are
said to hold the key to finding the treasure, and
which have been dubbed the Peralta Stones. These stones were
allegedly written up by the family shortly before their massacre

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and left behind by Apaches who did not know their
true meaning and so left them to rot away in
the sun. They would be uncovered in the nineteen forties,
but whether there is any truth to this story is
anyone's guests. In later years, there is the story of
the adventurous Spanish born doctor Abraham Thorne, who was at

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the time living among the natives of the region and
studying their medical practices. To this end, he lived for
years among their ranks, learning their ways and tending to
their sick and wounded. As a sort of reward for
his generosity, he was apparently one day asked to put
on a blindfold, after which he was told that he

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would be led to the mythical lost Cavern of Gold.
He was then led along a harsh, meandering route of
an estimated twenty miles, after which they removed the blindfold
and he was met with the sight of a pile
of gold sparkling in the sun near an entrance into
the presumed lost mind. The apaches told him he could

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grab as much of the gold as he could carry
on his person, which he did before being led back out,
never knowing the precise location, although he did mention a
sharp peak of rock, which is thought to have perhaps
been Weaver's Needle, a popular landmark in the area. Yet,
the mountains and their cursed treasure would get their most

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well known mystery with the arrival of a German immigrant
named Jacob Waltz, who was a gold process in the
Phoenix Valley in the late eighteen hundreds. Waltz would claim
to have been out prospecting when he'd come across an
unimaginably vast vein of gold out in the mountains, curiously
supposedly dear Weaver's needle. He allegedly made many forays to

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this mind, taking gold as he pleased and boasting of
its discovery, but all who tried to follow him or
learn his secret were said to get hopelessly lost or
end up vanished or even dead. He would take this
secret location practically to his grave, but as he lied
dying from a bout of pneumonia in eighteen ninety one,

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he allegedly told all laying out the secret location of
the lost and cursed Apache treasure, giving detailed but cryptic
instructions on how to navigate the rough terrain to the entrance,
as well as scrawling out a crude map to it
all as he lay on his deathbed. How he knew
all of this, no one knows. One rumor has it

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that he learned the secret location of this massive stash
of gold from the sole surviving Peralta family member. Waltz's caregiver,
a Julia Thomas, apparently listened to all of this, but
had no idea what to think of any of it.
She was oblivious, baffled, and would apparently later sell the
map of the now dead treasure hunter to parties unknown.

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The lost stash of gold, which has gone on to
be rather oddly known as the Lost Dutchman's Mind, has
catapulted itself into one of the most intriguing unsolved modern
mysteries there is, and the allure of its undiscovered riches
has led many people to their deaths, with some estimates
saying that over six hundred people have mysteriously died or

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vanished during attempts to try and pry it from its
ancient resting place. The story of a Lost Dutchman's Mind
would go on to become a persistent legend and obsession
for many would be treasure hunters over the years. Indeed,
in the decades since Waltz made his mysterious proclamation of
the mine public, there had been numerous earnest attempts to

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try and track it down, and these have the sinister
habit of meeting rather gruesome ends. One of these was
a veterinarian and treasure hunter named Adolph Ruth, who in
nineteen thirty one made his way to these winds swept wilds,
armed with what he at the time claimed to be
the actual original map to it. The sixty six year

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old Ruth, who was by all accounts absolutely and hopelessly
obsessed with the location of the Lost Dutchman's Mind, ventured
out into those bad lands despite warnings against it, and
shortly after vanished without a trace. After an intensive search,
Ruth's skull was found at the bottom of a remote ravine,

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sitting out there all alone in the unforgiving desert. A
month later, the rest of the body was found about
three quarters of a mile away, with severely broken legs,
and it was supposed that he had fallen and then,
after his grievous injuries, died of starvation, and the elements
as to why his head had been carried off no
one knows. Along with the body was found a mysterious

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note ensconced within a bottle, which said that he had
broken his leg and needed help, but which also stated
that he had managed to find the legendary Lost Dutchman's Mind.
There were other weird clues found about the body, such
as the presence of two bullet holes to the skull
from shots fired at point blank range, and it was

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speculated that he had perhaps been killed for his secret
knowledge or committed suicide, although shooting a second time into
your own head seems extremely unlikely, plus there was no
weapon found. Who killed him and then separated his head
from his body remains unknown. The curse of the treasure
would continue in the nineteen forties when a sixty two

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year old treasure hunter by the name of James A.
Carvey journeyed into the Superstition Mountains and also ended up
dead and with his head separated from his shoulders. In
this case, the body was found first, with the rest
of the body following a full six months later. No
suspects or motive were ever found. In later years. In

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nineteen forty five, a would be treasure hunter named Barry
Storm would claim that as he had been out looking
for the treasure, he had been fired upon by a
mysterious sniper whom he called mister X, who seemed to
be guarding the area. The mysterious deaths and disappearances go
on and on. In December of nineteen forty nine, a

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man named James Kidd vanished without a trace in the
area as well. Interestingly, it was found that he had
amassed a small fortune in a short amount of time
after starting his forays into the mountains. Urging suspicions that
he had found the lost mind. His body has never
been found. In nineteen fifty two, there was a man

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named Joseph Kelly who went out into the mountains to
find the treasure and proceeded to vanish from the face
of the earth. His body would later be found with
a bullet hole to the head. Also in that year
was the disappearance of two young boys, Ross Blay and
Charles Harshbarker, whose bodies were never found. Mysterious bodies turned

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up in the Superstition Mountains all through the nineteen sixties
and seventies, with at least five people found dead with
bullet holes to the skulls, and with other bodies found
minus the heads which were never found. This would become
a common theme in the Superstition Mountains, the presence of
decapitated corpses, and indeed this had happened to quite a

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few people who have dared to look for the lost
Dutchman's Mind throughout the decades. There have been other mysterious
and ominous disappearances as well, including an abandoned camp site
found in the mountains in nineteen fifty eight, complete with
blood soaked blankets, but no bodies and no suspect. There

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have been countless such debts and disappearances in the region
over the years, many of them with missing heads or
gunshot wounds to the head. Most recently, in two thousand
and nine, there was a would be treasure hunter by
the name of Jesse Capan, a thirty five year old
bell hop from Denver who was in his free time,
by all accounts, fascinated and obsessed with the legend of

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the Lost Dutchman's mind. At the time, he had ventured
out into the Tonto National Forest in search of the
legendary treasure, Having looked for it on several occasions in
the past and accumulating hundreds of books and hundreds of
pages of research on the matter, he would vanish into
thin air for his efforts. In twenty twelve, his vehicle, wallet,

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cell phone, and backpack were located, but there had been
no sign of the missing man. Then his body would
finally be found wedged into a remote and inaccessible crevice,
with the official cause of death still a mystery. It
was speculated that he had fallen or even jumped, but
it is still a mystery, just another casualty of the

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feudal search for the lost treasure. The man's campsite would
be found to hold many books on the Lost Mind,
and this would join a further three more mysterious deaths
in twenty ten and twenty eleven in the same area,
all of whom had been seeking the legendary Dutchman's Mind.
The Lost Dutchman's Mind has gone on to become a

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pop culture legend, written of in countless books and appearing
on numerous TV shows. There are still those who obsessively
search for it and try to decode its secrets, but
no one has ever really quite managed to find it,
to the point that many skeptics question whether it ever
really existed at all. Yet there are still all of

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these mysterious disappearances and death, these enigmatic decapitated corpses and
their bullet ridden heads. Is someone or something trying to
keep this treasure hidden? Is this all just a spooky legend,
or is there something more to it? No one really knows,

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but the answers just may lie out there in the
desolate reaches of those desert badlands. When weird darkness returns,

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a farmer with a large spread and two beautiful daughters
seem to have the world in the palm of his hands.
Until that is he hired a farm hand named Edwin
Willis Major but first. For years, a ghost haunted a
remote Yorkshire Dales villages road. Was it the ghost of
a murdered woman or something stranger? That story is up next.

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In the late nineteen thirties, there were numerous reports of
a ghost light annually appearing on the outskirts of Coverdale
village in North Yorkshire. Interviewing mister J. Pickers Gill, a
middle Ham butcher just a few miles away from Coverdale,
a Yorkshire Post journalist was told, I've seen it two
or three times. You pull up at the side of

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the road which is narrow, expecting a car to pass you.
It doesn't come and as soon as you start again,
the light goes out and there is nothing on the road.
Nearly everybody in the dale has seen it. There's a
man at West Scrafton who has seen it more than anybody,
and he's puzzled. It's been seen for years on this road,
but not always on the same stretch. The road from

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Coverdale to West Scrafton, between the hamlets of Calborough and
East Scrafton is where the ghost light was most reported, and,
although not mentioned at the time, the road as an
urban legend or a ghost attached to it. Thirteenth century
Coverham Abbey, on the banks of the River cover was

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founded by monks from northern France, the White Canons, monks
who wore white habits while expecting peace in the area.
This was not to be with Scott's attacking the abbey
in thirteen eighteen and two hundred years later Henry the
Eighth had the abbey stripped of its treasures and importantly
its roof. Connected with the abbey and between Caldborough and

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East Scrafton are the ruins of a chapel dedicated to
Saints Simon and Jude. Founded by Ranulf Pejeaux in thirteen
twenty eight. It was a chapel of ease for Coverham Abbey.
It is believed that at one time time it also
served as a hermitage, and even in fifteen eighty two
it was described as a ruined chapel and used as

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an ale house. It is in this liminal space between
the abbey and Saint Simon's that stories linger of a
poor beautiful girl who was murdered by her rich lover
when he thought she loved another. A similar trope to
My Nearest ghost Sarkless Kitty, the ghost of a young
woman who drowned while meeting her lover. Saint Simon's Chapel

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sits next to the river cover, so again similarities with Kitty.
According to the website Mysterious Britain, the story has been
around in the dale for a couple of hundred years.
How a poor but beautiful girl who wore a black
lace shawl had fallen in love with the son of
the squire and met him on many a dark night

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while their respective parents slept. One dreadful day, however, a
girl who also fancied the job of missus future squire
put a spanner in the works and told the lad
that his girlfriend was playing foot see with someone else.
Overcome with jealousy and rage, he waited for his lover
that night, blunt instrument in hand, and did her in

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before hauling her still warm body up to the moor
and dumping it in a shallow grave. Strangely, in the
nineteen fifties, local peat diggers found a corpse in a
shallow grave and it was wrapped in a black lace Shawl,
further confirming the local urban legend is the murdered girl

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ghost also responsible then for the ghost light appearances. There
is no doubt if there is a folk memory of
over two hundred years that the area is haunted by
a girl murdered at night, that somehow when the interaction
between the unusual, whether misidentification, hallucination or the other worldly, occurs,
then this might be the archetypal imagery created. Maybe the

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ghost girl is a manifestation of the ghost light and
vice versa. During the sightings, a local police officer based
in Middleham told the journalist he hadn't seen anything unusual
in the area. He believed that the explanation for the
sightings was the escape of marsh gas based on his
sightings of the ghost light. According to the officer, the

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gas is phosphorescent at a distance. I have seen it
looking exactly like a lantern being carried at knee or
hip heights by someone on rough ground. The movement is
caused by the wind. If the murdered girl was meeting
her lover at night, did she carry a lantern that night?
As the skeptical policeman described Two years later, after the

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first reports, The ghost light was reported again to the
Yorkshire Post late of Friday night. A dayo contractor mister W.
Brown of West Scrafton was driving a motor lorry to
his home. He noticed a brilliant beam of light on
the road in front of him. Mister Brown thought it
was an approaching motor car. This road is very narrow

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at this point, and he stopped the lorry to allow
the supposed motor car to pass. He waited for some time,
but the light came no nearer. Then he went slowly
forward as he got nearer the light, Suddenly it disappeared
in the road, leaving no trace. Interestingly, they mentioned that
the light is connected in some way with the ruin

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of a chapel known as Saint Simon's, which stands in
the fields near the point where the light appears. I
found this ghost story captivating. We have several key signposts
in the story that follow the typical haunt field theory. Firstly,
the ghost and ghost light are appearing on parish boundaries.

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If you reference the work of Jeremy Hart, over eighty
percent of road ghosts such as spantom hitchhikers, single roadside hauntings, etc.
Are usually seen on the boundaries of a particular parish.
This defies explanation because most boundaries are not posted. Therefore,
the witness would not know if they were passing these areas,

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but does the ghost. We also then have a remote
area that is rich in both historical and ghostly legends.
Saint Simon's may be the center of the hauntings in
the area, but the black Shawl ghost is seen wandering
the boundaries of nearby Cotescu Park, where in a nineteen
ninety three to one of Britain's largest coin hoards was discovered.

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Again a link between ghosts and treasure. Can I provide
an explanation of what the locals were witnessing No, It's
interesting though that the skeptical policeman inadvertently describes what could
be the ghost and yet believes marsh Gas is responsible.
There is no doubt that there could be any number

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of reasons of why or what they saw in Coverdale
in the nineteen thirties and since. But if you live
in the area, maybe visits and have a ramble to
Saint Simon's and keep an eye out for a lady
in a black shawl. Moses Lovejoy was a respected well

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to do farmer with a large spread in Wilton, New Hampshire.
He had two lovely daughters, Ellen and Ida. Both were
intelligent and refined. Everything was rosy until eighteen sixty eight,
when Moses hired Edwin Willis Major as a farm hand.
Twenty two year old Edwin Major came from Goffstown, New Hampshire.

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He was five foot ten, thick set and muscular, with
a heavy black mustache. When Lovejoy hired him, he already
had a reputation as a bully feared by people in town.
Major was soon intimate with both of the love Joy girls.
At the time, Ellen was nineteen, Ida was only thirteen.

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In July eighteen sixty nine, Ellen returned from picking blueberries,
then suddenly collapsed and died. Her death could not be
explained and was vaguely attributed to a spasm. Those who
laid out her body for burial believed that she was
pregnant when she died. The following November, Ida discovered that

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she was pregnant, and when Major was the father, he
married Ida and they lived together in her father's house.
At first it appeared the marriage would reform. Major he
joined the Baptist Church in the Center village, and for
a time was a zealous convert who became sexton of
the church. But when money disappeared from the church's charity fund,

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suspicion fell on Major and he was expelled from the church.
When relations became strained between Major and his father in law,
he and Ida left the farmhouse and moved to French Village.
Major took a job at a furniture factory, but was
soon discharged for undisclosed reasons. A short time later, one

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of the workshops at the factory burned down. Suspicion again
rested on Major, but no movement was made towards its arrest.
People lived in terror, fearing that if they brought charges
against him, Major would retaliate and burn down their buildings.
In the five years since the wedding, Ida gave birth
to four children, two of which had died suddenly, but

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no investigation was made. In eighteen seventy four, Idah was
pregnant again. Major started telling people that his wife was ill,
suffering from spasms. He said that Ida was a camphor subject,
meaning she habitually took camphor oil, a cop suppressant that
could be addictive or even fatal. When taken internally. On Saturday,

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December nineteenth, eighteen seventy four, Major took a train to Nashua,
New Hampshire, where he met with several physicians. He asked
about procuring abortion, an illegal obed operation at the time,
for his cousin. He said. When Major returned on Sunday,
Ida appeared to be in good health. At six o'clock

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she prepared supper. At seven o'clock she was dead. Ida
had begun having spasms, and when neighbors were called to help,
she was too sick to recognize them. They summoned to doctor,
but she was dead before he arrived. This time, the
doctor was suspicious and sent for coroner B. B. Whitmore.
He did not arrive until after Ida's funeral the following Tuesday.

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Corner Whitmore ordered Ida's body disinterred and held Major in
custody pending an inquest into her death. He sent Ida's
stomach to Boston for analysis by doctor Edward S. Wood
of the Massachusetts General Hospital. Doctor Wood analyzed the stomach
contents using Drogendorf's process, including three tests one taste, two

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reaction with sulfuric acid and bichromate of potash, and three
the physiological tests. The substance was fed to a frog.
The frog died instantly, and doctor Wood determined that Ida's
stomach contained strychnine. He presented his findings to the co
owner's journey, who concluded that Ida was poisoned by Edwin Major.

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As Major awaited trial, Ellen Lovejoy's body was exhumed. Though
she had died five years earlier, her stomach was still intact.
It was sent to doctor Wood for analysis. He performed
the same tests, this time administering the substance to a dog,
producing death. Ellen had also been poisoned with strychnine. In addition,

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the exhumation proved conclusively that Ellen was pregnant at the
time of her death. Edwin Major's trial for murder began
on September thirteenth, eighteen seventy five. Though public sentiment was
strongly against Major, the evidence against him was circumstantial. The
trial lasted about twelve days, and after deliberating for eighteen hours,

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the jury was hopelessly split and could not agree on
a verdict. The second trial, held the following December, lasted
four days, and after two hours of deliberation, the jury
returned a verdict of guilty. He was sentenced to hang
on January fifth, eighteen seventy seven. In the year between
sentencing and Major's scheduled execution, his supporters circulated a petition

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to commute his sentence to life in prison. Major was
confident that he would not be executed and was devastated
when the governor refused the petition. Major was hanged in Concord,
New Hampshire, on January fifth, eighteen seventy seven. At the scaffold,
he was pressed to make a confession, but he reiterated
his innocence. Major appeared calm on the gallows, but before

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the trap was sprung, his nerves deserted him and he
fell upon his knees, utterly broken down. He died without
a struggle, coming up slipping on ice end breaking his leg.

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World renowned psychologist Carl Jung was rushed to medical care
and fell into unconsciousness. What happened while he was passed
out would determine the direction of his life from then on,
including odd dreams, strange spirits, and a passion for the occult.
That story When Weird Darkness Returns On February eleventh, nineteen

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forty four, the sixty eight year old Karl Gustaf Young,
then the world's most renowned living psychologist, slipped on some
ice and broke his fibula. Ten days later, in the hospital,
he suffered a myocardial infarction caused by embolisms from his
immobilized leg. Treated with oxygen and camphor, he lost consciousness

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and had what seems to have been a near death
and out of body experience, or, depending on your perspective, delirium.
He found himself floating a thousand miles above the earth.
Seas and continents shimmered in blue light, and Young could
make out the Arabian desert and snow tipped Himalayas. He

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felt he was about to leave orbit, but then turning
to the south, a huge black monolith came into view.
It was a kind of temple, and at the entrance
Young Salli Hindu, sitting in a lotus position within innumerable
candles flickered, and he felt that the whole phantasmagoria of
earthly existence was being stripped away. It wasn't pleasant, and

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what remained was an essential Young the core of his experiences.
He knew that inside the temple, the mystery of his
existence of his purpose in life would be answered. He
was about to cross the threshold. What he saw rising
up from Europe far below the image of his doctor
in the archetypal form of the King of KOs, the

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island sight of the temple of Asclepius, Greek god of medicine.
He told Young that his departure was premature. Many were
demanding his return, and he the king, was there to
ferry him back. When Young heard this, he was immensely disappointed,
and almost immediately the vision ended. He experienced the reluctance

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to live that many who have been brought back encounter.
But what troubled him most was seeing his doctor in
his archetypal form. He knew this meant that the physician
had sacrificed his own life to save youngs. On April fourth,
nineteen forty four, a date numerologists can delight in, Young
sat up in bed for the first time since his

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heart attack. On the same day, his doctor came down
with septocemia and took to his bed. He never left
it and died a few days later. Young was convinced
that he hadn't simply hallucinated, but that he had been
granted a vision of reality. He had passed outside time,
and the experience had a palpable effect on him. For

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one thing, the depression and pessimism that overcame him during
World War II vanished, But there was something more. For
most of his long career he had impressed upon his colleagues, friends,
and reading public that he was, above all else a scientist.
He was not, he repeated, almost like a mantra, a mystic, occultist,

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or visionary terms of abuse his critics, who rejected his
claims to science, had used against him. Now, having returned
from the brink of death, he seemed content to let
the scientist in him took a back seat for the
remaining seventeen years of his life. Although Young had always
believed in the reality of the other world, he had

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taken care not to speak too openly about this belief. Now,
after his visions, he seemed less reticent. He'd had, it
seems a kind of conversion experience, and the interests the
world famous psychologist had hitherto kept to himself now became
common knowledge. Flying saucers, astrology, paraspsychology, alchemy, even predictions of

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a coming new age of aquarius, Pronouncements on all of
these dubious subjects. Dubious at least from the viewpoint of
modern science, flowed from his pen if. He had spent
his career fending off charges of mysticism and occultism, initially
triggered by his break with Freud in nineteen twelve. By
the late nineteen forties he seems to have decided to

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stop fighting. The Sage of Kusnacht and Hexenmeister of Zurich,
as Young was known in the last decade of his life,
had arrived. Yet Young's involvement with the occult was with
him from the start. Literally, it was in his DNA.
His maternal grandfather, Reverend Samuel Preesework, who learned Hebrew because

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he believed it was spoken in heaven, accepted the reality
of spirits, and kept a chair in his study for
the ghost of his deceased first wife, who often came
to visit him. Young's mother, Emily, was employed by Samuel
to show away the dead who distracted him while he
was working on his sermons. She herself developed mediumistic powers

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in her late teens. At the age of twenty, she
fell into a coma for thirty six hours when her
forehead was touched with a red hot poker. She awoke,
speaking in tongues and prophesying. Emily continued to enter trance
states throughout her life, in which she would communicate with
the dead. She also seems to have been a split personality.

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Young occasionally heard her speaking to herself in a voice
he soon recognized was not her own, making profound remarks
expressed with an uncharacteristic authority. This other voice had inklings
of a world far stranger than the one the young
Carl knew. This split that Young had seen in his
mother would later appear in himself. At around the age

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of twelve, he literally became two people. There was his
ordinary boyhood self and someone else. The other, as Carl
called him, was a figure from the eighteenth century, a
masterful character who wore a white wig and buckled shoes,
drove an impressive carriage, and held the young boy in contempt.

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It's difficult to escape the impression that, in some ways
Young felt he had been this character in a past life.
Seeing an ancient green carriage, Young felt that it came
from his time. His later notion of the collective unconscious,
that psychic reservoir of symbols and images that He believed
we inherited birth is in a sense a form of reincarnation,

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and Young himself believed in some form of an afterlife.
Soon after the death of his father in eighteen ninety six,
when Young was twenty one, he had two dreams in
which his father appeared so vividly that he considered the
possibility of life after death. In another later dream, Young's
father asked him for marital advice, as he wanted to

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prepare for his wife's arrival. Young took this as a premonition,
and his mother died soon after, and years later, when
his sister Gertrude died a decade before his own near
death experience, Young wrote that what happens after death is
so unspeakably glorious that our imaginations and feelings do not

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suffice to form even an approximate conception of it. Young's
mother was involved in at least two well known paranormal
experiences that our RecA mounted in practically every book about him.
Sitting in his room studying, Carl suddenly heard a loud
bang coming from the dining room. He rushed in and
found his mother startled. The round walnut table had cracked

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from the edge past the center. The split didn't follow
any joint, but had passed through solid wood. Drying wood
couldn't account for it. The table was seventy years old
and it was a humid day. Young thought, there certainly
are curious accidents. As if she was reading his mind,
Emily replied in her other voice, Yes, Yes, that means something.

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Two weeks later came a second incident. Returning home in
the evening, Young found an excited household. An hour earlier,
there had been another loud crack, this time coming from
a large sideboard. No one had any idea what had
produced it. Young inspected the sideboard, inside where they kept
the bread. He found a loaf and the bread knife.

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The knife had shattered into several pieces, all neatly arranged
in the bread basket. The knife had been used earlier
for tea, but no one had touched it nor opened
the cupboard since. When he took the knife to a cutler,
he was told that there was no fault in the
steel and that someone must have broken it on purpose.

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He kept the shattered knife for the rest of his life,
and years later sent a photograph of it to psychical
researcher JB. Rhin By this time, Young, like many others,
was interested in spiritualism and was reading through the literature
books by Zolder Crooks, Carl Duprell, Swedenborg, and Justinas Kerner's
classic The Cirrus of Prevorced at the Zovgia Debating Society

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at the University of Basel, he gave lectures on the
value of speculative research and on the limits of exact science,
in which he questioned the dominant materialist paradigm that reigned
then as today. Young led fellow students in various occult experiments,
yet when he spoke to them about his ideas or
lectured about the need to take them seriously, he was

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met with resistance. Apparently, he had greater luck with his
docsent whom he felt understood him better and could feel
supernatural presences himself. Another who seemed to feel supernatural presences
was his cousin from his mother's side of the family,
Helen Preesework. In a letter to J. B Ryan about
the shattered bread knife, Young refers to Helly as she

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was known as a young woman with marked mediumistic faculties,
whom he had met around the time of the incident,
and in his so called autobiography, Memoirs, Dreams, Reflections. He
remarks that he became involved in a series of seances
with his relatives after the incidents of the breadknife and table.
Yet the seances had been going on for some time

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before the two events, and at their center was Helly,
whom Young already knew well and who, by all accounts,
was in love with him. This is an early sign
of his somewhat ambiguous relationship with the occult. Kelly would
enter a trance and fall to the floor, breathing deeply
and speaking in old Samuel Priestwork's voice, although she had

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never heard him. She told the others that they should
pray for her elder sister, Bertha, who she said had
just given birth to a black child. Bertha, who was
living in Brazil, had already had one child with her
mixed race husband, and gave birth to another on the
same day as the seance. Further seances proved equally startling.

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At one point, Samuel Priesswork and Carl Young Senior, Young's
paternal grandfather, who had disliked each other while alive, reached
a new accord. A warning came for another sister, who
was also expecting a child that she would lose it.
In August, the baby was born premature and dead. Helly

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produced further voices, but the most interesting was a spirit
named Ivanus, who called herself the real Helen priest work.
This character was much more mature, confident, and intelligent than Helly,
who Young described as absent minded and not particularly bright, talented,
or educated. It was as if buried beneath the unremarkable

(01:19:22):
teenager was a fuller, more commanding personality like Young's other
This was an insight into the psyche that would inform
his later theory of individuation, the process of becoming who
you are. Helly did blossom, later becoming a successful dressmaker
in France, although she died young at only the age

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of thirty. In Young's dissertation on the Seances on the
Psychology and Pathology of so called a Cult Phenomena, he
describes Helly unflatteringly as exhibiting slightly rachitic skull formation and
somewhat pale facial color, and fails to mention that she
is his cousin. He also omits his own participation in

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the seances and dates them from eighteen ninety nine to
nineteen hundred, whereas they had started years before. Gerard Ware
politely suggests that the doctrinal candidate was obviously at pains
to conceal his own role and especially his close kinship relationship,
thus forestalling from the start any further critical inquiry that

(01:20:25):
might have thrown the scientific validity of the entire work
into question. In other words, Young the scientist thought it
was a good career move to obscure Young the occultist's
personal involvement in the business will continue to look into

(01:20:52):
the life of the mysterious and strange Carl Young when
Weird Darkness returns. In nineteen hundred, the twenty five year

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old Young joined the prestigious Burgoldly Mental clinic in Zurich.
Here he did solid work in word association tests, developed
his theory of complexes, and initiated a successful patient friendly
approach to working with psychotics and schizophrenics. It was during
his tenure that he also became involved with Freud. From

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nineteen oh six when they started corresponding to nineteen twelve,
when the friendship ruptured, Young was a staunch supporter of
Freud's work and promoted it unstintingly. There were, however, some
rocky patches. One centered on the famous poltergeist in Freud's bookcase.
Visiting Freud in Vienna in nineteen oh nine, Young asked

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him about his attitude towards parapsychology. Freud was skeptical and
dismissed the subject as nonsense. Young disagreed, and, sitting across
from the master, he began to feel his diaphragm glow,
as if it was becoming red hunt. Suddenly, a loud
bang came from a bookcase. Both jumped up and Young
said to Freud, there that is an example of a

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so called catalytic exteriorization phenomenon. Young's long winded circumlocution for
a poltergeist or noisy spirit. When Freud said bosh, Young
predicted that another bang would immediately happen. It did. Young
said that from that moment on Freud grew mistrustful of him.

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From Freud's letter to Young about the incident, one gets
the feeling that he felt Young himself was responsible for
This isn't surprising. Young did manifest numerous paranormal abilities. While
in bed in a hotel room after giving a lecture,
he experienced the suicide of a patient who had a
strong transference on him. The patient had relapsed into depression

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and shot himself in the head. Young awoke in his
hotel feeling an odd pain in his forehead. He later
discovered that his patient had shot himself precisely where Young
felt pain at the same time, Young woke up more
to the point. A visitor to his home once remarked
about Young's exteriorized libido. How when there was an important

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idea that was not yet quite conscious, the furniture and
woodwork all over the house creaked and snapped. It was
Young's break with Freud that led to his own descent
into the unconscious, disturbing trip down the psyche's rabbit hole,
from which he gathered the insights about the collective unconscious
that would inform his own school of analytical psychology. He

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had entered a creative illness, unsure if he was going mad.
In October nineteen thirteen, not long after the split, Young
had on your perspective a vision or hallucination. While on
a train, he suddenly saw a flood covering Europe between
the North Sea and the Alps. When it reached Switzerland,

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the mountains rose to protect his homeland, but in the waves,
He saw floating debris and bodies. Then the water turned
to blood. The vision lasted an hour and seems to
have been a dream that had invaded his waking consciousness.
Having spent more than a decade treating mental patients who
suffered from precisely such symptoms, Young had reason to be concerned.

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He was ironically rather relieved the next summer when World
War One broke out, and he deduced that his vision
had been a premonition of it. Yet the psychic tension continued.
Eventually there came a point where a Young felt he
could no longer fight off the sense of madness. He
decided to let go. When he did, he landed in

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an eerie, subterranean world where he met strange intelligences that
lived in his mind. The experience was so upsetting that
for a time Young slept with a loaded pistol by
his bed, ready to blow his brains out if the
stress became too great. In his red Book, he kept
an account in words and images of the objective, independent

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entities he encountered during his creative illness, entities that had
nothing to do with him personally, but who shared his
interior world. There were Elijah and Saloon, two figures from
the Bible, who were accompanied by a snake. There was
also a figure whom Young called Phileman, who became a
kind of inner guru, and who he painted as a bald,

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white bearded old man with bulls horns and the wings
of a kingfisher. One morning, after painting the figure, Young
was out taking a walk when he came upon a
dead kingfisher. The birds were rare in Zurich, and he
had never before come upon a dead one. This was
one of the many synchronicities, meaningful coincidences that happened at

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this time. There were others. In nineteen sixteen. Still in
the grip of this crisis, Young again felt that something
within wanted to get out. An eerie restlessness filled his home.
He felt the presence of the dead, and so did
his children. One daughter saw a strange white figure. Another

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had her blankets snatched from her. At night, his son
drew a picture of a fisherman that he had seen
in a dream. A flaming chimney rose from the fisherman's head,
and a devil flew through the air, cursing the fisherman
for stealing his fish. Young had yet to mention phileman
to anyone. Then one afternoon the doorbell rang loudly, but

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no one was there. He asked, what in the world
is this. The voices of the dead answered, we have
come back from Jerusalem, where we found not what we sought.
Words that formed the beginning of Young's strange seven Sermons
to the Dead Book, a work of spiritual dictation or channeling,
he attributed to Basilidas and Alexandria, the city where the

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East toucheth the West. By nineteen nineteen, world War One
was over and Young's crisis had passed, although he continued
to practice what he called active imagination, the kind of
waking dreaming, the results of which he recorded in the
Red Book. But spirits of a more traditional kind were
not lacking. He was invited to London to lecture on

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the psychological foundations of the belief in spirits to the
Society for Psychical Research. He told the society that ghosts
and materializations were unconscious projections. I have repeatedly observed, he said,
the telepathic effects of unconscious complexes, and also a number
of parapsychic phenomena. But in all this I see no

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proof whatever of the existence of real spirits, and until
such proof is forthcoming, I must regard this whole time
territory as an appendix of psychology. Scientific enough, no doubt.
But a year later, again in England, he encountered a
somewhat more real ghost. He spent some weekends in a
cottage in Ilesbury rented by Maurice Nichole, later a student

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of Gershif and Ospensky, and while there was serenaded by
eerie sounds, while an unpleasant smell filled the bedroom. Locals
said the place was haunted, and on one particularly bad night,
Young discovered an old woman's head on the pillow next
to his. Half of her face was missing. He leapt

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out of bed and waited until morning in an armchair.
The house was later torn down. One would think that,
having already encountered the dead on their return from Jerusalem,
Young wouldn't be so shaken by a traditional English ghost,
but the experience rattled him. His account of it only
appeared thirty years later in nineteen forty nine in an

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Obscure Anthology of ghost Stories. When his lecture for the
spr was reprinted in the Collected Works in nineteen forty seven,
Jung added a footnote explaining that he no longer felt
as certain as he did in nineteen nineteen that apparitions
were explicable through psychology, and that he doubted whether an
exclusive psychological approach can do justice to the phenomenon. In

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a later PostScript, he again admitted that his earlier explanation
was insufficient, but that he couldn't agree on the reality
of spirits because he had no experience of them, conveniently
forgetting the haunting in Aylesbury. But in a letter of
nineteen forty six to Fritz Kunkel, a psychotherapist, Young admitted
metapsychic phenomena could be explained better by the hypothesis of

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spirits than by the qualities and peculiarities of the unconscious.
A similar uncertainty surrounds his experience with the I Ching,
the ancient Chinese oracle with which he began to experiment
in the earth early nineteen twenties, and which, like horoscopes,
became part of his therapeutic practice. Although we mentioned the

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I Ching here and there in his writing, it wasn't
until nineteen forty nine. Again, nearly thirty years later, in
his introduction to the classic Wilhelm Baines translation that he
admitted outright to using it himself, and although we tried
to explain the I ching's efficacy through what would become
his paranormal dios ex machinas synchronicity, Young admits that the

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source of the oracles insights are the spiritual agencies that
form the living soul of the book or mark at
odds with his quasi scientific explanation. Ironically, his major work
on meaningful Coincidence, Synchronicity and acausal connecting Principle from nineteen
fifty two, written by the physicist Wolfgang Paully, provides only

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one unambiguous example of the phenomenon, and readers who accept
the reality of synchronicity come away slightly baffled by Young's
attempt to account for it via archetype, quantum physics, statistical analysis, mathematics,
jb Ryan's experiments with esp astrology, telepathy, precognition, and other

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paranormal abilities, all of which read like a recruiticence of
Young's I Am a scientist reflex. In the nineteen twenties,
he plunged into a study of the gnostics, whom he'd
encountered as early as nineteen twelve and alchemy. He was young,
more than anyone else, who salvaged the ancient hermetic pursuit
from intellectual oblivion. Another hermetic practice he followed was astrology,

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which he began to study seriously around the time of
his break with Freud. Young informed his inner circle that
casting horoscopes was part of his therapeutic practice, but it
was during the dark days of World War II that
he recognized a wider application. In nineteen forty and a
letter to H. B. Bains, Young speaks of a vision

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he had in nineteen eighteen in which he saw fire
falling like rain from heaven and can assuming the cities
of Germany. He felt that nineteen forty was the crucial year,
and he remarks that it's when we approached the meridian
of the first star in Aquarius. It was, he said,
the premonitory earthquake of the New Age. He was familiar

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with the procession of the equinoxes, the apparent backward movement
of the sun through the signs of the zodiac by
acting as a backdrop to sunrise at the vernal equinox.
Each sign gives its name to an age called a
platonic month, which lasts roughly twenty one hundred and fifty years.
In his strange book Iron in nineteen fifty one, he

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urges that the individuation of Western civilization as a whole
follows the path of the Platonic months and presents a
kind of precession of the archetypes. Fish symbolism surrounds Jesus
because he was the central symbol of the age of Pisces,
the astrological sign of the fish. Previous ages of Taurus

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and Ares produce bull and rare symbolism. The coming age
is that of Aquarius, the water Bearer. In a conversation
with Margaret Ostrowski Sachs, a friend of hermann Hesse, Young
admitted that he had kept this secret knowledge to himself
for years and only finally made it public in his
book Aon He wasn't sure he was allowed to, but

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during his illness he received confirmation that he should. Although
the arcane scholar Gerald Massey and the French esotericist Paul
le cour had earlier spoken of a coming age of Aquarius,
Young was certainly the most prestigious mainstream figure to do so,
and it is through him that the idea became a
mainstay of the counterculture of the nineteen sixties and seventies.

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This was mostly through his comments about it in his
book Flying Saucers, A Modern Myth of Things Seen in
the Sky nineteen fifty eight, in which he argued that
UFOs were basically mendalas from outer space. During his crisis,
he had come upon the image of the Mandala, the
Sanskrit magic circle, as a symbol of psychic wholeness, and
he suggested that flying saucers were mass archetypal projections formed

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by the psychic tension produced by the Cold War that
was heating up between Russia and America. The Western world,
he argued, was having a nervous breakdown, and UFOs were
a way of relieving the stress. Young wrote prophetically, my
conscience as a psychiatrist, bids me fulfill my duty and
prepare those few who will hear me for coming events

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which are in accord with the end of an era.
As we know from ancient Egyptian history, they are symptoms
of psychic changes that always appear at the end of
one platonic month and at the beginning of another. They are,
it seems, changes in the constellation are the psychic dominance
of the archetypes or gods as they used to be called,
which bring about long lasting transformations of the collective psyche.

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This transformation started in the tradition of the age of
Taurus to that of Ares, and then from Ares to Pisces,
whose beginning coincides with the rye of Christianity. We are
now nearing that great change when the spring point enters
Aquarius ten years later. The fifth Dimension, whose very name
appropriated from the title song of the Bird's Third LP

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suggests the cosmic character of the mystic sixties, had a
hit song from the hippie musical Hair echoing Young's ideas,
and millions of people all over the world believed they
were witnessing the dawning of the Age of Aquarius. Young
died in nineteen sixty one, just on the cusp of
the occult revival of the nineteen sixties, a renaissance of

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magical thinking that he did much to bring about. He
was also directly responsible for the journey to the East
that many took then and continue to take today. Along
with the i ching Young, he was imprimature to such
hitherto arcane items as the Tibetan Book of the Dead,
Taoism and Zen, and without his intervention, it's debatable if

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these Eastern imports would have enjoyed their modern popularity. That
he was, in many ways a founding father of the
Love generation is seen by his inclusion on the cover
of the Beatles Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album,
although Young himself would have thought Flower Power sadly naive.
Although for all his efforts he has been accepted by

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mainstream intellectuals, his effect on popular culture has been immense,
and our contemporary grassroots in our directed spirituality, unfortunately associated
with the New Age, has his name written all over it.
Young himself may have been equivocal about his relationship with mysticism,
magic and the occult, but the millions of people today

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who pay attention to their dreams, notice strange coincidences and
consult the Ichang have the Sage of Cusnacht to thank
for it. Thanks for listening. If you like the show,

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paranormal or strange stories, true crime, monsters, or unsolved mysteries
like you do. All stories in Weird Darkness are purported
to be true unless stated otherwise, and you can find
source links or links to the authors in the show notes.
Redheaded Aliens from Atlantis is from the website Myths and

(01:37:25):
History of Red Hair. Terrorized for two Hours was written
by Mara Grace and posted to Reddit. The Woman Without
a Body is by Blake Morrison and Nicholas Bogel Burrows
for Reuters. Arizona's Cursed Treasure is by Brent Swanzor for
Mysterious Universe. The Coverdale Ghost is by MJ. Wayland. The

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Wilton Tragedy is by Robert Wilhelm for Murder by Gaslight,
and Carl Young's A Cultic World was written by Gary
Lackman for New Dawn Magazine. Weird Darkness theme by Alibi Music.
Background music in this episode provided by a Midnight Syndicate
and is used with permission from the artist. Weird Darkness
is a production of Marler House Productions. And now that

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we're coming out of the dark, I'll leave you with
a little light Mark eleven, verse twenty five. And when
you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive
them so that your father in Heaven may forgive you
your sins. And a final thought, your dream doesn't have
an expiration date, Take a deep breath and try again.

(01:38:33):
Kathy Whitten. I'm Darren Marler. Thanks for joining me in
the weird darkness.

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