The Grey Alien Agenda: Abductions, Experiments, and Stealing Souls

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Loose encounters of the fourth kind. That's when a person
claims to have been kidnapped by a UFO and it's
reportedly other worldly occupants. Of course, there's no tangible evidence
that anyone has ever been taken aboard an extraterrestrial spacecraft,
but there are those who claim they have been abducted,
and their stories are chilling. Travis Walton was twenty two

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years old when his terrifying encounter took place, being knocked
unconscious and awakened surrounded by gray aliens about their ship.
It was a metallic, glowing disc making some very strange sounds.
Walton says, the closer I got to it, the more
scared we all got, and they were swearing at me
to get away from there. And when I got up close,

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it suddenly got louder and started to move. I jumped
for cover and then jumped up to run back to
the truck, and that's when this blast of energy hit
me and I just felt this numbing shock go through
my body, and the crew said it threw me through
the air ten or twenty feet and I landed in
a way that they were immediately certain it had killed me,
and they fled the incident began November fifth, nineteen seventy five.

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After a long day of work in the Sidgreaves National
Forest near hebre Arizona. Walton and six other loggers were
heading hung when they suddenly saw a forty foot diameter
shiny disk hovering in the air. Walton first told his
extraordinary story in a nineteen seventy eight book, The Walton Experience,
which became the nineteen ninety three film Fire in the Sky.

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His account has also been turned into a candid documentary
entitled Travis The True Story of Travis Walton. When I
us first able to focus my eyes good enough, he says,
I was still on the table, and as soon as
I saw this face and knew it wasn't human, I
tried to hit it away from me. They were much
smaller than me, and I think that's the reason they

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gave up. Once they found out they couldn't control me,
they split. I was absolutely terrified. Walton was declared missing
for five days, during which time his logger buddies fell
under suspicion of foul play. When Walton finally turned up again,
not knowing how long he'd been gone, an intense investigation

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was underway. Including multiple polygraph, physical and psychological tests. When
telling his story recently to The Huffington Post, Walton shared
little known aftermath details, including subsequent research in the forest area,
which has shown an unusual growth rate in trees in
the immediate vicinity of the encounter. About fifteen years later,

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it was discovered that the trees nearest to where the
UFO Hubbard had been producing wood fiber at thirty six
times the raid had in the eighty five years before that,
Walton says. More recently, a complete core sampling revealed that
this thickened growth was only on the side of the
trees towards or in the direct that the craft had been.

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Walton addresses the stigma that he and so many other
people who claim encounters with possible alien beings are generally
considered unreliable wackos. The scientific evidence of the likelihood of
intelligent life in our vicinity has become so overwhelming, he
says that the people who believe that we're alone in
the universe, those are the kooks. I'm Darren Marler, and

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this is weird darkness. Welcome, weirdos. I'm Deren Marler, and
this is weird darkness. Here you'll find stories of the paranormal, supernatural, legends, lore, crime, conspiracy, mysterious, macabre,

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unsolved and unexplained coming up in this episode. Over the years,
hundreds of people online have shared memories of a cheesy
nineties movie called Shazam. There's no evidence that such a
film was ever made. What does this tell us about
the quirks of collective memory. While the Lockness Monster or

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NeSSI is a worldwide celebrity, she has a distant cousin
in America that doesn't get the same kind of press,
although she probably should. Have You heard of lake Erie's
Bessie first up, though, we've all been exposed to the
concept of the gray aliens, made popular in numerous TV

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shows and films, from Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the
Third Kind to TV's Stargate SG one. They're seen as harmless,
even friendly. But then there are the darker stories, such
as the true account of the abduction of Barney and
Betty Hill or the film Fire in the Sky telling
of the true kidnapping of Travis Wallerlton into a strange spacecraft,

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with both stories telling of strange and terrifying experiments being
done to the abductees by the gray humanoids. But could
that latter category of stories be even more sinister? Could
the grays be in fact harvesting our humanity and possibly
even our souls. We begin there now, vulture doors, lock

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your windows, turn off your lights, and come with me
into the weird darkness. Before I begin this story, I

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want to say that the opinions and ideas you're about
to hear are not my own, but those of New
Dawn magazine. I do not prescribe to some of the
ideas put forth here, but I found it interesting nonetheless,
and thought you might as well. It is a bit heady,
but if you can keep up, it is truly some
amazingly interesting concepts. Here's the article. A look up at

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the blue of the sky any day on our planet
will fill most people with a sense of reassurance and warmth. Yes,
the clouds roll in and the storms will come. The
ideal can change in seconds into a seething mass of
dark threats in a moment that can sweep away towns
and lives in a relatively few moments. But whatever you

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see up there peals into insignificance against silent geometric forms.
Nothing to do with rain that suddenly appear seemingly from nowhere,
and disappear equally quickly. Discs, cylinders, triangles, and orbs of light,
some as large as cities, dangle and dance hither and thither,

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moving at thousands of miles an hour, pouring questions out
in the mind's eye of human witness. There are records
of thousands of them now over the millennia, written on
walls of stone and pieces of papyrus, paper, plaster, celluloid,
magnetic tape, and metallic discs. They have been out there
to see, by intention and by accident, with no one

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in final authority to explain them or to define their veracity.
The trouble with solving the enigma of the UFO phenomenon
is that, in consensus it tends to be seen on
the level of the tooth fairy and the hobbit, and
thus defies the terms of any serious mental uptake or
human recognizance that one fact is of bigger significance than

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anything else. Unfortunately, a look at blogs discussing UFO verity
on the Internet will soon make it plain that the
world is full of more crackpots and mental defectives than
it ought to be certainly more than the subjet deserves.
For a UFOs are really craft in which extraterrestrial alien
entities prevail over us in our human environment, We as humanity,

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have before us something so fabulously significant that absolutely nothing
takes precedence over it in importance. The mere speculation that
there might be some truth to the proposition of an
extraterrestrial alien power in the affairs of humankind poses an
interesting socio philosophical question. Could conquering aliens be any more

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cruel to humankind than humankind has been to humankind? Could
they be arrogant enough to operate on the axiom that
we've operated on as Homo sapiens sapiens in relation to
all other less intelligent animal species on the planet, in
dominating and using these species for our purposes so ruthlessly

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and cruelly whenever it suits us. Under the adjus of
the second law of thermodynamics or entropy, that make sure
everything atomic breaks down rots into greater and greater states
of chaos and randomness with time, and never but never
goes the other way. It is natural to think this
way in a universe of diminishing returns, it will be

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the most natural and logical way that any superior entity
can be expected to treat any subordinate one here or
anywhere in the universe. It is a song of ultimate
and essential expediency, a way to maintain a physical existence
for as long as possible, against any and all natural threats.

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I contend that if there was such a presence, it
will never be tangibly proven if the alien visitors choose
not to reveal themselves. If their survival depends on preserving
the enigma of whether they are real or imaginary, you
would expect them to use the supreme technology that is
reportedly at their disposal to put in place the most
will prove methodologies to prevent discovery. Nevertheless, in a universe

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where entropy holds sway with its vagaries and destructive power,
the accidents and the chaotic disbursement that it provides has
I believe incidentally revealed the presence of such entities here
on Earth from time to time without a shadow of
a doubt to all but the most intransigent skeptical minds.
For them, nothing will suffice as proof that they are here.

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If gray alien entities exist in terms of our physical reality,
who are what are they? And how did they come
to be here? Most importantly, why are they here? To
get these answers from entities who are quite clearly hiding
from us and quite plainly don't want to be discovered,
It's not possible, and so one has to look at

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what they actually do to us for clues that might
give us answers to the questions I pose. Apart from
moving across our skies at phenomenal speeds and shaped craft
at far greater speeds than us locals can manage, they
abduct and perform the most heinous surgical procedures on humanity
and some animal species in a deeply covert guise. These

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procedures mostly center on reproductive features and capacities. It is
my conclusion that their work here is not simply that
of neutral observation, but is aimed at a utilitarian purpose
to their advantage and not ours. They are and have
been farming us for millennia and are covertly genetically changing

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us to suit their purposes. To understand those purposes, we
must first look into both our origins and theirs. There
is evidence to suggest that devolution, rather than evolution, may
well be the overall direction for living species Scientists studying
mutational phenomena have discovered that there is a blueprint, an

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ancestral body that guides development from one species form to another.
Instead of inventing a new set of body plan genes
for each new type of animal, it seems that natural
selection has simply tinkered with an old one, a set
known as Hawk's genes. If all organisms that now exist
had from their very inception into the evolutionary process a

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blueprint of how they should evolve, then where did that
blueprint come from in the first place? How did the
first multi cellular animals, evolving some seven hundred million years
ago contain the basic templative information that only needed to
be shuffled around in order to form a human being?
All the myriad changing environmental factors and chance mutations which

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allowed survival within changed environments and thus evolution through the
survival of the fittest has not yet occurred at that point.
Or did the most basic of living organisms, or indeed
the chemical soup that produced them in the first place,
get this genetic blueprint? Therein lays evidence of states of
prior order devolving into states of lesser order. Cosmologists say

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that the universe came from a point of origin smaller
than an atom. A Titanic explosion called the Big Bank
brought it all into being from a prior state of
coherence and order. No one knows what this state really was,
but it presumed all the laws governing all universal momentums
and disbursement, and left us with puzzles that to this

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day confuse and perplex some of the best minds in
our world. One thing is certain, the laws of physics
that came with it all provide the scope for giant contradictions.
If all was together in a point smaller than an
atom before the Big Bank, then this togetherness is now
being destroyed by increasing inertia of the explosion, and the

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products of the explosion. You me, the Gray and Uncle,
Tom Cobley, and all are being systematically taken apart by
a law called the second law thermodynamics. In an increasing
and accelerating separation of the parts of the universe, in
a melee of chaotic and random disbursement. With time, the

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universe is breaking down order and the capacity that exists
in it for self motivated realization, reason, and refurbishment. Why
bring about the capacity to understand the universe? Way down
the road after its birth, and then destroy this very
capacity for reason and self monitoring in a complete, cold nothingness.

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To view it this way is the plain perversity of
the mad. However, as the universe can be traced from
a point of coherence and order, we may find in
those origins a less nonsensical explanation. Let me run a
scenario by you imagine two basic opposed existential polls between
which all things that exist are rate. These poles define absolutes.

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Let's call one pole the pole of all togetherness and
absolute harmony, and the other pole of absolute chaos and disharmony.
The poles are implicit. They are just the basic opposing
extremes that things can go to. They are abstractions for
providing potentials for things to happen. All things unite in

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perfect coherence at the pole of harmony, and the opposite
happens at the poll of chaos. So the underlying momentum
provided at the pole of harmony is the union of
all parts is a timeless, forceless, and eternal function, and
the underlying momentum at the pole of chaos is the
separation of all parts. As the most temporal, forceful, and

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brief function possible. The interesting place will be the absolute
center of the interface between these two contrasts. We would
expect the maximum potential difference point here. In my model.
It will be this point that generates the consequence of
the meeting of two absolutes a big bang. For instance,
it could be expected to generate a stream of them continually.

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Let's say such as this underlies the whole existential scale,
and the big bang that generated our universe came from
such an overall modality. It came as an incidental offshoot
of all these logical factors and was a natural implicit
expression of them. Our universe will then be an amalgam
of both momentums and the chaotic amelioration that would follow

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the mixing of two opposed contrasts I have called the
poll of harmony. The god verse. Coming to terms with
another life form or existent mode outside our own human
living form brings us face to face with a huge
conundrum about gods with personas so, with the concept of
a god verse in mind, let's now return to an

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understanding of the gray alien phenomenon itself and what that
might be. From most descriptions and accounts, there seem to
be two types of gray alien entity, a tall variety
that seems to be in command, and an almost identical
shorter variety. I believe the tall ones were, once upon

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a time, a natural, functional presentation of the universe, as
any other living species might be, whilst the short ones
are I believe, machines that they may have manufactured it
in their likeness. My take on the tall Grays is
that they come from planets whose civilization is at the
last stage where primary highly intelligent, naturally living entities becomes

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something catastrophically different, artificial, fully functional roboids. In other words,
these civilizations have gone to the point where the second
law thermodynamics and its corrosive effect profoundly changed these highest
natural life forms that they gradually devolved into a machine type,
being the tall Grays. This would happen when constant revamping

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of the natural biologne agis of the living form is
intercepted with a continual supplement of implanted devices, such as
the species is natural no more. The entity has become
a synthetic super simcard being, so to speak. I'm convinced
that the tall gray is a super simcard entity, still

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bearing the last dispositions of its version of DNA based life.
It converted itself into a simcard cyborg long ago. From
all the reports and evidence available on the captured Grays,
I believe the taller gray Aliens now have no vestige
of their original connection to the God verse. They are
now almost total artificial beings, their bioprocesses running on soft tissues, diodes,

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and transistors. They have no sense of self, but their
intelligence and motivation comes from a supplemental artificial quantum analytical
compound synthesis program devoid of biological sensory input. I believe
the Grays are a salutary lesson of what might well
happen to humanity in the future. If we disregard the

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possibility that we might have an eternal connection to a natural,
eternal state of existence beyond atoms, we as human beings
are just beginning this run. Thanks to the deadly inertias
of science and technology. We stand catastrophically on the threshold
of the same destiny here on this planet. The tall
gray Aliens, who have simcarded themselves so to speak, into

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a ral boidal state from their previous natural one, now
interface well with a mechanically manufactured smaller version made in
their image and likeness. The smaller version is an entirely artificial,
highly sophisticated machine robot manufactured by the Tall Grays and
made in a mercury mulch on a scaffolding of fine

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gold wires, designed with a body mass able to survive
the huge, sudden inertial changes of force necessary for traveling
the vast distances of space, the ideal form to survive
of the phenomenal deceleration needed to travel beyond light speed
and slow down to the gravitational dictates of planetary orbit
and landing. Why do they need to travel beyond their

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own planet? And what might this mean existentially to us
as natural living human beings. If each natural living individual
entity has a personal line of connection tracing back to
its origins in the God verse, therein might lay the answer.
This line of connection is what I call a soul.
This ancestral line holds the full depository of knowledge, or

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every single detail of everything and every experience an individual
has been through. It holds it as a pattern of
forcelessness deployed on a tray of force. In this way,
a field grid is created that is everlasting and logs
the uniqueness of experiences that hallmarks the individuality of any
living thing. The pathway the line takes back to the

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God Verse depends upon the free choices made by an individual.
It runs, I believe, through many lifetimes via the mechanism
of the transmigration of implicit states one to the other.
We call this cycle of incarnation slash reincarnation, a principle
accepted by Hindus and Buddhists, and incidentally once accepted by

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the mystical side of the Judaic, Christian and Muslim faiths.
But no more. The Tall Grays are completely artificial intelligence
now in their simcard form. Because they're almost purely atomic,
I do suspect that they do have a smattering of
DNA and thus a record of their former selves, but
not enough to reproduce naturally and have a soul line

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of connection to the God Verse. They do, however, have
a background sense of what they once were through this,
but they are unable to bridge into the chrysalis, or
centermost point of the Godverse Godhead. They are stuck forever
in an enforced universe of parts. Their immortality has to
be an artificially mechanically produced one. They may well be

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seeking an alternative, our alternative, the one that gives our
naturally living humanity the possibility of existing on an eternal
scale beyond the atom. They may well be seeking to piggyback,
so to speak, on our individual lines of connection to
the God verse. In other words, they may be trying

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to steal our souls to append us to them without
our knowledge. It might well explain why they don't seem
to want us to know they are here. After all,
if they were a benevolent and an altruistic, goodly kind
why would they not declare their presence here openly and
lead us to a glorious future of beneficience and happiness.

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Why do they hide from us so blatantly? I believe
they are parasitizing us and other suitable species universe wide,
and the short Grays and their craft were created as
a means to this end. What then, can explained the
remarkable capacities of their craft to morph, change direction, and

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travel at speeds faster than light. I believe the answer
lies in an understanding of gravity, whose poorly understood nature
is highlighted in the following extract from an article entitled
Gravity Mysteries. Why is gravity fine? Tuned. If the expansion
of space had overwhelmed the pull of gravity in the
newborn universe, stars, galaxies, and humans would never have been

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able to form. If, on the other hand, gravity had
been much stronger, stars and galaxies might have formed, but
they would have quickly collapsed in on themselves and each other.
Our cosmic history could have been over by now. Only
the middle ground, where the expansion and the gravitational strength
balance to within one part in Oney fifteen at one

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second after the Big Bang, allows life to form. That is,
down to the size of the gravitational constant g We
can make measurements that determine its size, but we have
no idea where this value comes from, says John Barrow
at the University of Cambridge. We've never explained any basic
constant of nature. Could this remarkable fine tuning of gravitational

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strength be a clue that the strength of gravity may
be an exact reflection of the force of the universe
pulling against the forcelessness of the god verse. Could it
be an expression of the default situation that brings all
things back into Godhead, an underlying tacit resistance rather like
the spring back tension, an elastic that is held still

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at one end and pulled at the other. The immense
amount of gravity in a black hole is comparable to
the tension in elastic that's been stretched out as far
as it can go. Elastic can only be pulled so
far before it unavoidably springs back. Thus it is ultimately
dominated by the still point to which it is tied.

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This is an analogy of the dominant of the God
verse over the universe, where Godhead is the still point. Thus,
gravity is the antidote to the second law thermodynamics that
drives the universe in departs through a web of chaotic
disbursement with time. Gravity may also be seen as an
ordering momentum created by the infinite potential of the God Verse,

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reaching into all finite states. It creates an ever changing
clone of the God Verse at various stages of expression,
copying the signature of order onto the paper of all
the various stages of chaos. The gnostic text Pistis Sophia
includes an incredibly intricate and lengthy description of all the
stages by which the non physical translated into the physical.

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A myriad of levels between Heaven and Earth are described,
leading eventually to an account of how each body part
was formed from its insubstantial counterpart. We as living entities,
have become trapped in these stages of gravitational tension, the
stretches from the Big Bang. This entrapment happens because we
have taken into ourselves and our original nature through the

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ages of will, the manifested components of that gravitational tension,
which might be described in another way as atoms, mass,
and materiality. I believe that gravity be pulled back to
the God verse, created by the potential difference of the
presence of the God Verse in the universe is the
Gray's momentum and inertial moment It provides their mechanism of

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changing location. I believe that their craft run on the
force of the springback of the elastic. So to speak,
they're running in a kind of parallel state to us,
and perhaps the meeting point between the two states could
be what cosmologists commonly call a wormhole. The direction of
the gravitational momentum pulling things together could be said to

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be a highway towards the God verse. But the expression
of the momentum of the universe as it separates parts
through the second law thermodynamics is of force away from
the God verse. They are spiritually more primitive than us
in terms of their intrinsic enforced state, but their direction
to travel is towards the God verse. This pyridox might

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define the nature of the tracks along which UFOs travel. Thus,
they are doubling back on us, following the twisted jeroidal
shape of the universe that I explain in my books.
Several physicists have affirmed this universal shape since I first
suggested it in nineteen ninety eight. It's been reported that
the various craft the Grays used to move through spacetime

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run to anti gravity devices. As they are traveling in
an existential modality or reality that is set in the
opposite direction to us, their gravity becomes anti gravity in
our reality frame. Their ability to levitate abductees is a
property of this phenomenon of anti gravity. Their craft appears
to change shape and direction dramatically because they're traveling on

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anti gravitational forces that marrit into our previous pro gravitational
and non gravitational forces such as magnetic fields. These magnetic
forces change all the time. Could the struggle to cope
with these constant changes in the force paradigms they have
to face in our reality explain why their crafts sometimes crash.

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Gravity is a constant even force electromagnetic fields are not
the mixture of the two in so many myriad ways
in any given physical universal place. May be a big
problem for them when they are in the locality of
planets and solar systems and not in deep space where smooth,
non variant travel perspectives prevail. Perhaps that is why they

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sometimes run out of control. There has been a long
standing debate in upology between the extraterrestrial hypothesis ETCH and
the ultra terrestrial hypothesis UTCH. The latter views them as
beings from another dimensional state, and the former as beings
from another actual location within our own dimensional state, beings

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from another planet. I believe both of these hypotheses may
well be true. They do exist in another frame of
tension that exists parallel to our own state, but they
can pass from their state to ours and become physically
trapped caught in our reality. Timothy Good and other sources
suggest that there are underground bases all over the Earth

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containing these craft and occupants that are caught here. They
have been seen behind the moon or near Mars. I
believe that these craft are actual physical mechanisms for conveyance
in our space time, created for these short, utilitarian graves
who actually pilot them. As I discussed in my recent
article for New Dawn one nineteen the March April twenty

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ten edition, we seem to be inexorably moving towards the
creation of simcard Man, attempting to create for ourselves a
permanent home in the physical universe by our human biologies
that are vulnerable to break down and decay into harder
wearing artificial modus operandi. At the same time, we seek
to replace the delicate reality of human sentiment and imagination

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with a hard core virtual reality substitute. I believe any
previous civilizations on this planet, such as perhaps Atlantis, Lemurria,
or ancient India at the time of the Vamana, may
have reached the same threshold and inadvertently allowed in the
Grays to help convert their species into a physical immortal
race through a hybridization program similar to that described by

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so many abductees today. However, there is of course a
huge paradox between the words physical and immortal. The two
are incompatible owing to the second law thermodynamics. The very
power that makes for immortality a soul line of connection
to the God verse is comprised and lessened when it

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is mixed with artificial elements. Thus, the Grays are doomed
to failure, Hence the very sickly looking hybrid babies that
are often seen on their craft. After these ancient civilizations
were destroyed, the Grays may very well have been caught
here looking for new sources of DNA. They may then
have started a program of genetic interception that help to

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mold our species into its current form. What's happening to
humankind with the imminent emergence of simcard Man may then
be a catastrophically chilling prospect for us all. In allowing
ourselves to be changed like this, we will be ensuring
the loss of our natural eternal scope in exchange for
an artificially induced one that allows immortality that has to

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always progress in temporary stages. This is an immortality that
will need constant technological refurbishment because of the relentless and
continual action of the second law, laying waste to each
prior stage. There is much speculation about the many different
types of alien species that are witnessed. I believe these varieties,

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be they reptilian, insectoid, or amphibious, are products of their
contact with other species on planets like ours. These are
hybrids that they made, which inevitably broke down to express
the devolved animal form of the original species. The Nordic
aliens are, I believe, the culmination of the current hybridization
project they are conducting with us. Chillingly, Hitler was shown

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one of these in an alien encounter and told that
this was the New Man. The biggest irony is the
Grays do not realize that they cannot, with physical means,
get a handle on something that's not physical, like the soul,
simply because they only understand the physical. So the tragedy
lies in the damage they do in trying to reach

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what they can't reach, converting us via abduction and genetic
manipulation to be more like them, making us, in other words,
more like machines, all in the vain hope that they
can make an amalgam that will be, in their terms,
the best of both worlds, borrowing the eternality of the
god verse and infusing it into the temporality of the

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universe in an attempt to create a state of physical immortality.
The Grays can only abide within the atomic realm. With
the loss of their original attachment to the eternal existential
properties beyond atoms and the pole of harmony, they can
go no further as they are purely physical creations. Now
they cannot die in the sense we do, and thus

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naturally reach the gate to the God Verse through the
center points of the space between atoms with the same
drive for physical immortality that drives the technological vanguard of
our species. Now on our planet, they seek for our
information their program to continue. They seek to recreate the
biologically natural being they once were manipulating our genetic prospectives

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to reflect their own original pro formain their intellectual superiority
and their connection with a potential eternal prospectus of existence,
albeit on a hijacked soul or connecting line. But as
this is the rub, they will never be able to
do it. The soul field is a unique fingerprint. Entry

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to the God Verse is only marked for the original
natural owner because every bit of information on it is
framed with the original's experience, and only the original bearer
can know the experience that brought it out of the
god verse an add on can never be aware of
that experience and follow the track back, it would be
a wasted effort. But the Grays can never know it

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as such from their point of view, as they have
lost their own individual track and become artificial sim carded entities.
The battle lines of existentiality between the artificial and natural
were drawn billions of years ago. With the Big Bang,
we set on its contemporary stance right now. What is

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natural is programmed or ultimate eternal endurance. It's up to us,
as the pinnacle species of natural endeavor here in our
neck of the woods in space time, to see the
truth of it all and make the choices that maintain
this stance. The prospect of being simcard man beckons us
all the Grays are its vanguard and its alma mater.

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Will we as a species elect to sing their song
and not ours, thereby losing forever the essence of the
potential magnificence we truly are. That was some pretty heady

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stuff from New Dawn magazine. Huh So when Weird Darkness returns,
we'll lighten things up a bit. Over the years, hundreds
of people online have shared memories of a cheesy nineties
movie called Shazam, not the recent one from Martin. There's
no evidence that this nineties film was ever made. But
what does this tell us about the quirks of collective memory?

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That story is up next. In the early nineties, Roughly

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around nineteen ninety four, a now fifty two year old
man named Don ordered two copies of a brand new
video for the rental store his uncle owned and he
helped to run. I had to handle the two copies
we owned dozens of times over the years, says Don,
who wishes to give his first name only, And then
he continues, and I had to watch it multiple times
to look for reported damages to the tape, rewind it

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and check it in, rent it out, and put the
boxes out on display for rental. In these ways, the
film Donna speaking of is exactly like the hundreds of
others in his uncle's shop. In one crucial way, however,
it is not the movie that Don's referring to. Doesn't
actually exist. It feels like a part of my childhood

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has now been stolen from me. How does a movie
simply vanish from our history? This isn't Don speaking, but
another man who he has never met, named Carl. Carl,
whose name has been changed because he wishes to remain anonymous,
Racolls watching a movie called Shazam with his sister in
the early nineties and his fond memories of discussing it

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with her over the last twenty years in their recollections.
The movie starred the American stand up comedian Sinbad real
name David Adkins, as an incompetent genie who granted wishes
to two young children. I've taken to Craiglist and have
posted a bounty of one thousand dollars for anyone that
can turn up a copy of this movie, whether it
was accidentally kept from Blockbuster or if someone made their

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own bootleg VHI. I want to be able to make
it known that the movie is indeed real, says Carl.
Meredith Upton, a twenty five year old videographer from Nashville, Tennessee,
also remembers the same film. Whenever I'd see Sindbad anywhere
in the media, I'd recall him playing a genie, she says.
I remember the name of the film as Shazam. I

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remember two children accidentally summoning a genie and then they
try and wish for their dad. To fall in love
again after their mother's passing, and Sinbad can't grant the wish.
Down goes even further. Although he is not certain that
the movie was called Shazam, he has detailed seen by
scene recollections of the film, which include the children wishing

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for a new wife for their father, the little girl
wishing for her broken doll to be fixed, and the
movie finale taking place at a pool party. Don says
he remembers the film so vividly because customers would bring
the video back to his rental store claiming it didn't work,
and he watched it multiple time times to try and
find the problem with the tape. Meredith, Don and Carl

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are three of hundreds of redditors who have used the
popular social news site to discuss their memories of Shazam. Together,
they have scoured the Internet to find evidence that the
movie existed, but each has repeatedly come up empty handed.
Sinbad himself has even taken to Twitter to deny that
he ever played such a role. How did this Reddit

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community grow? It all began? In two thousand and nine,
an anonymous individual took to the question and answer website
Yahoo Answers depose its users a simple question. Do you
remember that Sinbad movie? They wrote? Wasn't there a movie
in the early nineties where Sinbad the entertainer slash comedian
played a genie help It's driving me nuts? At the time,

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nobody remembered the film, and it took another two years
for somebody else to ask about it again. Online reddit
user mjg Simple wrote on the site, it's a conspiracy.
I swear this movie exists. Anyone have a copy or
know where I can find proof. Replies to the post
were skeptical, claiming mjg Simple simply had a false memory.

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Then things took a dramatic turn. On August eleventh, twenty fifteen,
the popular gonzo news site Vice published a story about
a conspiracy theory surrounding the children's storybook characters the baron
Stain Bears. The theory went like this, Many people remembered
that the bear's name was spelt baron Stein with an E,

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but pictures and old copies proved it was always spelt
with an a barren Stain. The fact that so many
people had the same false memory was seen as concrete
proof of the supernatural. Barren Stein truthers believe in something
called the Mandela effect, a theory that a large group
of people with the same false memory used to live

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in a parallel universe. The name comes from those who
fervently believe that Nelson Mandela died while in prison. He didn't.
Weiss's article about the theory was shared widely, leading thousands
of people to r slash Mandela effect on Reddit, a
subreddit for those with false memories to share their experiences.
It was there just a few hours after the article

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was posted that discussions of Shizam or the Sinbad Genie
movie took off. I was dumbfounded to see that there
was no evidence of the movie ever being made, says Carl.
I quickly searched the Internet, scouring every way I know
how to search, crafting buoy and strings into Google, doing
inside searches, and nothing, not a thing. On the subreddit,

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discussions about the film went into great detail. Unlike other
false memories on the subreddit, the issue wasn't a simple
misspelling or logo change, but an entire film's disappearance. Many
redditors revealed they had distinct memories of the cover art
of the movie. It said Sinbad in big letters that

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dwarfed the other print, says Don, who goes by epic
Journeyman on Reddit, and also remembers how Sinbad posed on
the cover, facing left, with his arms crossed and an
eyebrow raised. Jessica not her real name, a twenty seven
year old office worker from Canada, also remembers the cover.
It had a purple background featuring Sinbad dressed as a genie,

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back to back with a boy who looks about eleven
or twelve years old. Sinbad has an annoyed expression on
his face. She says, at this point, I should mention
something I've neglected to mention so far. In nineteen ninety six,
the basketball player Shaquille O'Neill played a genie who helped
a young boy find his stranged father in a commercially

(42:46):
unsuccessful film. The cover art of the film features Shack
with his arms folded, laughing in front of a purple background.
His name Shack, dominates the top half of the cover.
The movie's name is Kazam. Imagine if you woke up
this morning and Disney's nineteen ninety eight animation of Bugs
Life did not exist. After endlessly scouring the internet, you'd

(43:09):
come up with nothing despite your own distinct memories of
a bunch of ants going on wild highjinks through the undergrowth.
You turn to your best friend, your brother, your mom
and say, hey, remember a bugs life. It was about
ants and your friend brother mom would turn to you
and say, no, darling, you're thinking about ants the movie.

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That's how those who believe in the Sinbad Genie movie
feel when people say they are simply getting confused about
Shaq's Kazam. Twin films Remarkably similar movies that are released
at the same time are relatively common and include Turner
and Hooch and Canine in nineteen eighty nine, Robin Hood
Prince of Thieves and the movie Robin Hood in nineteen

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ninety one, Saving Private Ryan, and then The Thin Red
Line in nineteen ninety eight, and Finding Me and Shark
Tale in two thousand and three in two thousand and four, respectively,
I remember thinking Shack's Kazam was a ripoff or a
revamp of a failed first run, like how the nineteen
ninety one film Buffy the Vampire Slayer bombed, but the

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late nineties TV reboot was a sensation, says Meredith, who
is one of many who claim to remember both Shazam
and Couzam. Don remembers ordering two copies of the former
and only one of the latter for the store, while
Carl says I am one of several people who specifically
never saw Kazam because it looked ridiculous to rip off

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Shazam just a few years after it had been released.
When Carl first realized there was no evidence of the
Sinbad movie existing, he texted his sister to ask if
she remembered the film. Her response was, of course, I
told her try and look it up. It doesn't exist.
She tried and texted back with only what was it called.

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There was never a question of if it existed, only
not remembering the title. I remember as a child that
every time my mother brought me a fresh pair of
Clark's shoes for the new school year, the shop would
offer me a free gift to go with them. It
was the late nineties or early naughties, and I distinctly
remember receiving a lilac pencil case to accompany my new

(45:20):
leather numbers. It had a different compartment for pencils, e
racers and sharpeners, and I spent the last week of
the holidays drawing a comic book with it by my
side on our caravan kitchen table. There is no evidence
that such a promotional offer ever existed. When I ask around,
no one remembers it. But when I also ask about

(45:40):
another memory I have of Mark's and Spencer's chicken nuggets
shaped like bugs Bunny, no one remembers those either, despite
the fact a Guardian article proves they were real. I
can't find evidence of the Clark's offer on the internet,
though my sister remembers it, and a poll that I
conducted online shows that at least five hundred other people
do too. Does this mean my memory is real? We

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become very used to the idea that you can find
anything on the Internet. Yet what do we accept as proof?
Do we need pictures, videos and articles? Or is the
fact that hundreds of others share our memory enough? Doctor
Henry Rudeger, a professor at the Washington University Memory Lab,
doesn't think so. Lots of people remember detailed but utterly

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false memories, he says, in fact, we all have them.
I published on what we named the social contagion of
memory and what others call memory conformity. That may be
at work here Rudiger explains that frequently one person's reports
of a memory influences in others, and that false memories
can spread. In this way, one person's memory infects another.

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He says it is clear that this contagion would only
be exacerbated online, where an individual can be influenced by
multiple people from all around the world in an instant.
The existence of the Shazam Reddit community therefore arguably helps
a false memory to spread. We often forget whether we
actually saw something, or whether someone told us about a

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detail later and we filled in our memories. He goes on,
People infer events and then remember the inferences as if
they actually happened. If someone hears the karate champion hit
the cinder block, they'll often remember later that he broke
the cinder block, but maybe not, maybe he broke his hand,
so the inference is remembered as the way it happened,

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like accusations that they are misremembering Kazam. However, Shazam truthers
balk at the idea they simply have false memories that
have been influenced by one another. I try not to
read others full descriptions of the film because I don't
want to subconsciously influence my own recollection, says Meredith, while
Jessica says that before she started reading about the film,

(47:58):
she jotted down her own memories to avoid being influenced
by others. After doing so, I read what other people
remembered about the poster, and a few people remembered the
exact same poster that I did. It is worth noting
that many people seemingly remember the movie independent of the subreddit,
with someone different tweeting about it nearly every single day.

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So what do these redditors think has actually happened? Some
truly believe in the Mandela Effect that there has been
some glitch in the world, there are parallel universes, or
a timeline has been altered, and as such, little things
have got lost. Some are very active in the r
Mandela Effect community and have many other false memories, suggesting

(48:42):
an element of bandwagon hopping or a penchant for conspiracy theories. Others, however,
have less fantastical theories. Meredith leans towards the explanation being
some previously undocumented psychological phenomenon, while Don believes the movie
was intention disappeared because it embarrassed Sinbad and Phil Hartman,

(49:04):
who he believes was a writer and producer on the film.
Jessica also thinks the film was recalled and destroyed. Carl's explanation, however,
is the most detailed, although he considers the movie may
have been recalled if DC Comics sued the film's production
company because of their similarly named TV show at the time, Shazam,

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not to be confused with the recent film. He believes
more in either a timeline shift or a computer simulation.
University of Oxford's philosopher Nick Bostrom suggests that members of
an advanced civilization with enormous computing power might decide to
run simulations of their ancestors, he says, also arguing that

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quantum computers are now able to run such simulations. In
a day where we can now run these simulations, is
this a far fetched theory, he argues, noting that the
famous scientist Neil de grast heysen with the odds we
are living in a computer stimulation at fifty to fifty
a few years back. Does it make more sense to
argue with the scientific minds of our time exposed to

(50:08):
the greatest understanding of the capabilities of modern technology, or
to argue with the masses of people who simply write
off these effects we are noticing as faulty memories. Karl asks.
As of today, there is no concrete evidence that Shizam
ever existed. A few years ago, redditors thought they had
a breakthrough when they discovered an image of Sindbad in

(50:30):
a Genie costume on eBay. Sinbad himself, however, tweeted to
say that he was dressed that way because he was
hosting a Sindbad the Sailor Movie marathon. Some said the
image demonstrated where the false memory had originated. Others continue
to hunt for evidence of a movie they are certain exists.

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While the Luckness Monster or NeSSI is a worldwide celebrit
she has a distant cousin in America that doesn't get
the same kind of press, although she probably should. Have
you heard of Lake Erie's Bessie. If not, you will
when Weird Darkness returns. On a warm September day, Harold Bricker,

(51:34):
his wife Cora, and their son Robert set out from
Ohio's Sandusky Bay to go fishing on Lake Erie. While
Bricker was baiting his hook, he noticed something moving in
the water about a thousand feet from their boat. Peering
in that direction, he saw what looked like a long,
sleek sea serpent swimming through the choppy waves. The creature

(51:55):
was black and about thirty five feet long, with a
snake like head. Bricker told the Los Angeles Times in
nineteen ninety he wanted to investigate, but his son was
too nervous to get closer, astutely pointing out that whatever
the thing was, it was certainly bigger than any of them.
The Briggers weren't sure what they saw that day, but
their story was corroborated by at least five other witnesses.

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For Minny, Ohio residents, it was just the most recent
sighting of the Lake Erie Monster, or Bessie, the American
cousin of Scotland's famed NeSSI of Lockness. Bessie has never
been in the international spotlight, but since the late eighteenth century,
Ohioans have insisted that a huge snakelike creature lives in
the depths of Lake Erie. In July nineteen thirty one,

(52:43):
two Lake Erie fishermen, Clifford Wilson and Francis Coganstos, claimed
that a sea serpent was plunging through the waves near
their boat in Sandusky Bay. Despite their fear, the two
men managed to club the beast, bring it to shore,
and wrestle its limp body into a shipping crate. At
least that's the story they told the New York Times reporter,
who happened to be visiting Sandusky that day. When the

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curator of the Cleveland Museum of Natural History swung by
to investigate, he determined that the clubbed and creded beast
was actually an Indian python, according to Cryptozoology, a di
z by Laurence Coleman and Jerome Clark. Despite that hoax
and likely others, Lake Erie's locals continue to claim sightings
of Bessie's long, scaly body plunging in and out of

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the water. After the breakers encounter. In nineteen ninety, John Shafter,
editor of The Beacon, a newspaper in Port Clinton, Ohio,
set up an eight hundred number four sightings. Shafter admits
that one of his friends knowingly published an account of
a fake serpent sighting in another local paper, spurring a
flurry of copycat reports. But the people calling Shaffner's Lake

(53:51):
Monster hotline weren't trying to put one over on him.
They were serious as a heart attack. Shaffner says they
were absolutely convinced they were seeing some in the water.
He remembers one woman in particular, who was having coffee
on her lake front porch one summer morning when she
was overcome by a powerful stench. She swears she saw

(54:12):
a slinky sea monster with two humps in the water.
Schaeffner says Investigative journalist and avid lake Erie voter Steve
Kovaks thinks he may have cracked the case. In twenty twelve,
Kovaks published The Solved Case of the Real Lake Erie Monster,
in which he details sightings over the years and uses
his reporting skills to identify the creature. His hard hitting theory,

(54:36):
when people see the lake Erie Monster, they're actually encountering
larger than average lake sturgeon. It might not be the
most thrilling revelation, but Kovax claims it's easy to see
why folks mistake the giant fish for a monster. They
do look quite prehistoric. He says, if you see a
sturgeon at the right angle, you probably would look at
it and go, what the heck is that? Adding to

(54:59):
its sinister appear rance, lake sturgeon can grow to enormous proportions.
The largest specimen ever caught in Wisconsin was eighty four
point two inches long, that's seven feet and weighed two
hundred and twelve pounds. In Minnesota, those record stats are
seventy inches and ninety four point four pounds. Of course,
it's not just Bessie and NeSSI that sparked the imagination

(55:20):
of lake goers. An aquatic monster was spotted in Alaska's
Lake Iliamna in the nineteen sixties, in the nineties, and
again recently. According to the Anchorage Daily News, Lake champlaining
shared by New York State, Vermont, and Quebec as its
own monster, known as champ or Champi to some, like ghosts,
yetties and bigfoot, sightings of these bizarre beasts raise questions

(55:43):
about the human psyche. Why do some people believe in
creatures that have no proven existence. Donald R. Prothero co
author of Abominable Science, Origins of the Yetti, NeSSI and
other famous cryptids, blames it on our willingness to believe
what we see. People are fooled by their senses, especially sight,
because we are notoriously bad witnesses. For THEO told National

(56:06):
Geographic in twenty thirteen, Kovas thinks monster sightings serve a
different purpose. It diverts people from their problems in life,
their anxieties, depression, bad times. He says, it gives them
a sense of adventure and purpose. Over the years, scientists
and marine experts have offered theories on Bessie. After the

(56:27):
nineteen ninety siding, Fred Snyder, a researcher with the Ohio
Sea Grant, told the Los Angeles Times that he, like Kovacs,
believes it's just a supersized sturgeon, but many locals would
rather keep the monster story alive. The menus at Lemmys
spelled l e m for Lake Erie Monster Restaurant in
Hurn tells the tale of the nineteen thirty one sighting,

(56:49):
but with an alternative ending. The monster now lives in
the diner's basement. If you listen closely, you can hear
her thrashing around below decks or so. The menu says,

(57:12):
thanks for listening. If you like the show, please share
it with someone you know who loves the paranormal or
strange stories, true crime, monsters, or unsolved mysteries like you do.
All stories in Weird Darkness aren't purported to be true
unless stated otherwise, and you can find source links or
links to the authors in the show notes. The Abduction

(57:32):
of Travis Walton was written by Lee Spiegel for The
Huffington Post. The parasitic Grays are from New Dawn magazine.
The non existent film The Internet Insists as Real is
by Amelia Tate for New Statesmen, and the legendary Lefathan
of Lake Erie is by Malli Fosco for Osie. Weird
Darkness theme by Alibi Music. Background music in this episode

(57:56):
provided by Alibi Music with paid license and by Midnight
Sindy with permission from the artist. And now that we're
coming out of the dark, I'll leave you with a
little light Hebrews eleven, verses one and three. Faith is
being sure of what we hope for and certain of
what we do not see. By faith, we understand that
the universe was formed at God's command, so that what

(58:18):
is seen was not made out of what was visible.
And a final thought, I know this transformation is painful,
but you're not falling apart. You're just falling into something
different with a new capacity to be beautiful. William C. Hannon,
I'm Darren Marler. Thanks for joining me in the Weird Darkness.

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Welcome to Marshport, Maine, a quaint little coastal town preparing
for their annual winter wonderland and festival. But beneath the
lights and holiday cheer, something evil is stirring and it's
not a mouse. When a mysterious package arrives on the
doorstep of veteran police officer Matthew Kleine and his family's home,

(59:15):
it seems at first like a harmless holiday gift. However,
there's no tag and no sender. Inside lies an antique
wooden advent calendar with strange engravings and twenty four doors
that each shelter something dark and unspeakable. The line between
reality and nightmare quickly becomes blurred as Matthew races to

(59:38):
figure out the calendar's origin and who scent it. But
as each door is opened and Marshport is thrust into
a sinister nightmare, Matthew realizes the terrifying truth and is
forced to relive the horrors from his past that refuse
to stay buried. The countdown has begun, and once that

(59:59):
first door is opened, there is no turning back. Weird
Darkness Presents Advent of Evil, a twenty four episode audio
saga beginning December first. Listen each day for a new
chapter through Christmas Eve, and if you'd like to follow
the story in print. The full novel is now available
in paperback and hardcover editions, as well as on Kindle.

(01:00:22):
Grab the novel now for yourself or for someone else
and be ready to follow along. December first, and for
a limited time only, you can also grab an Advent
of Evil gift pack, including a signed copy of the
novel by the author Scott Donnelly, wrapped up with an
Advent of Evil bookmark, pen, highlighter, hot chocolate, Chai, tea chocolates,

(01:00:43):
a candy cane, and some horror stickers. The gift pack
is in limited supply, so act fast if you want
to take advantage of it. You can find links to
purchase the book or the gift back at Weirddarkness dot com,
slash Advent of Evil. That's Weird Darkness dot com slash
Advent of Evil, and then be ready as the first

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episode comes your way December first,

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