Ballistic Missile Melee

A total fake, false ballistic missile threat in Hawaii and the real problems the U.S. faces with North Korea. Plus DACA and the potential of a government shutdown. 

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of talk radio, Buck Sexton and the worst twenty minutes
of my life. I thought that we are disappointed and

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angry that this happened. We do know that everyone on
the island was affected in some way. Very frightening, traumatized, scared.
I didn't know if if I was going to die
a second or die in the the next five minutes. It
was horrifying. I came across to our phones that there
was a missile that was gonna hit, and nobody knew

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what to do. I filled up fields of water, and
I filled up the bathtub just so we would have water.
I got caught in clothes on so that way, if
there was hot air fire, it wouldn't melt my skin,
and I sat in the bathtub that I made for
myself and cried. I called my mom. She wouldn't let
me hang up on the phone with her. She said,
I want to be here just in case it happens.
And it was really sad. A ballistic missile threat to

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Hawaii that was totally fake, false in error. Buck Sex
in here with you all. Thanks for joining me in
the Freedom Hut. We have got much to discuss today,
my friends. So this is what happened. That that was
some reaction to a text message that got sent out

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two people in Hawaii by a state government agency. And
here's what the message said. Emergency alert, ballistic missile threat
inbound to Hawaii. Seek immediate shelter. This is not a drill. Now.

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I'm not somebody who I think is prone to getting
overly anxious or or scared or freaked out about the
possibility of a terror attack or any number of things
out there. I used to work in counter terrorism, and
so if I saw something that I look like it
was fake to me, I'd probably ignore it. This was

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an official message, and Hawaii, it is believed, is within
missile range of North Korea nuclear range who knows, but
certainly within missile range. And whatever we think we know
about North Korea could also be wrong. And if I
had gotten this message, I would have been quite anxious

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about it, understandably, so I think anybody would be. Now
people already are calling for greater accountability and saying we
need to make sure this never happens again. I understand
all that, and I agree this can't happen again, because
let's just start with a one thing that I think

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has not nearly gotten enough attention in the media. This
happened in Hawaii, which is a relatively uh small state
in terms of population, and it happened on a Saturday,
and it didn't go out to everybody in the island,
only some, and only one over some text message carriers,

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I forget which ones. And they tried to sound the alarm,
literally sound alarms in Hawaii, and only some of them
went off on the streets, you know, ambulance kind of
alarm sounds, and so it could have been much more
of a panic than it even was. Imagine if this

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had happened for a moment, if you were in the
state of well here in New York City or in Philadelphia,
or in Dallas, or you know, you name it, where
you might have had panic in densely packed civilian areas.
It could have been at a at a football stadium.
It could have been and and people could have been hurt,

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And the possibility of widespread panic turning into loss of
life is very very real. In fact, recently, when the
wild five fires were burning in California, state authorities there
chose not to send in at least one instance, a

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messages out because they weren't sure which direction the wildfire
was going in. And they also didn't want to possibly
tell people to evacuate only to put them in the
path of a wildfire by trying to get out of
a certain area. And they didn't want to further congest
egress routes without knowing where the fire was going to burn.

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So there are some complexities here. There are people who
are paid at the state government level to try and
handle this stuff so that we can all have some
hope of getting out of a other of an otherwise
life and death situation. But people are clearly upset about

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this TULSEI Gabbert, who it's among, Well, I was gonna
say among my favorite Democrats. Why because I like her policies.
She said, well, no, that's actually not really true. She's
just kind of charming in her own way. But she
said the following about this, and our leaders have failed us.

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Donald Trump is taking too long, he's not taking this
threat seriously, and there's no time to waste. We've got
to get rid of this nuclear threat from North Korea.
We've got to achieve peace. Not played politics, but achieve
peace because this is literally life and death that is
at stake for the people of Hawaii and the people
of this country. So it's about getting peace with North Korea.

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I mean, sure, we would like to achieve peace with
North Korea, but North Korea is the problem. They're not us.
And as much as getting a lecture from a Democrat
rap out in Hawaii may make the left feel kind of, uh,
kind of warm and fuzzy about all things, this isn't
all that all that useful. Uh, this is not all

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that helpful. The media did manage quite quickly to tie
Trump into this. I think there are a lot of
people out there, and I don't want to be flip
about this. I think there are a lot of people
He's going to be flip about it or happy that
this at least didn't happen while President Trump, while watching
was watching Fox and Friends, and instead it happened when
he was out on the golf course and he was

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informed about this by by layers of advisors and such. Um.
I think he's being flip about it. You know, I
was not watching Fox and Friends. You could do that
to anyone at any time. You all, oh, well, you know,
not just sitting there. You know, it's not like Bucks
sitting there in his sweatpants eating chicken nuggets at one
o'clock in the morning because he didn't make himself dinner

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because he was working on a history podcast blah blah blah,
and yeah, that that could have happened. I did have
chicken nuggets for dinner at one point this weekend. But
Jake Tapper is out there saying, oh, it's a good
thing Trump. Yeah, because let's focus on whether Trump is
the problem here or not. Um, how could this happen?
You know, look, people ask me this. Look, you're working

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kind of terrorism at the A couple of friends asked
me or counter terrorism at the m Y p D.
I was like, look, I don't know, I don't know
how the Hawaii Ballistic Incoming Ballistic Missile system warning works.
I have no idea. I'm gonna lie, you know. I
wish I knew about all these things. I wish I
knew about some of the other government stuff that goes on.

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But no, I have no idea how Hawaii system works.
So I can't give you some inside analysis of whether
or not Hawaii has a bad system other than the
fact that clearly it's not a very good one. Here's
what the Hawaiian Emergency Emergency Management spokesperson, I suppose, this

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is what Verne Miyagi is the gentleman. This is what
he said about it. It's a human era. There is
there is a screen that says are you Are you
sure you want to do this? Okay? And I think
that's already in place. We had one person, human arrow,
and that thing was was pushed anywhere, so they not
only triggered the alert, they also pressed yes. Yes. There

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wasn't two steps process. There was a press yes in
both situations. Now, I think it's fair to ask. I
think it's fair to ask, uh, okay, if it was
just a button, somebody could push the button. You know
you're not paying attention. You got your coffee, you know,
you throw a little you know, non dairy coconut creamer

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in there, maybe a little Stevia if you're feeling fancy
and you know, you knock it over and all of
a sudden whoops in you you hit the button. But
if you hit one button and then there's another button
that you have to hit in order to make it
go mm hmm, a little strange. I can't go as

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far as to say that a person would intentionally do
this because I really can't, off the off the top
of my head, I can't think of why somebody would
want to do this. I've seen a lot of outrage
about how the government employee needs to be reassigned here,
and I'm like, sorry, fired instead of reassigned. Re assigned
not good enough. I always just want to note that,

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you know, that's not really the unless the person acted
with malfeasance or or true. Well, I think in competence
is very likely here, but it doesn't really matter. It
doesn't really matter if there's one person gets fired or not.
It is very likely if the person did get fired
that he or she might be able to sue and

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claim that the system was faulty in some way, and
that would just be then a problem for the taxpayers
to deal with. But something weird happened here, for sure.
I woke up on Saturday. I was up. Yeah, I
keep talking about it. I make it sound like my
weekend was interesting or actually, no, I guess I make
it sound like it's even more boring than it was

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because I didn't do anything other than research and study
and right. But Ms Molly's was on her way to
Hawaii when this happened in the air in a plane,
and I didn't I knew she was all right. I
didn't know what exactly. You know, I don't check and
see when her flight's gonna land. She just usually text
me to let me the flight was fine. So I
don't know when she whether she had or if she

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was landing or anything else. Um. It's it's it's amazing
that this thing, that this happened the way that it did.
Look the good news is written as far I understand.
Nobody was hurt. Clue, there's no ballistic missile. Yeah, but
also nobody was hurt. Um, so that's good. Although people
were terrified, there was an emotional distress that many of

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us would certainly feel, but it brings up the the
bigger issue there. There's there's two levels here. On one hand,
there's the or on the one level, I'm mixing my
metaphors here. There's two levels with one hand. Uh. On
the one on the one you have the ineptitude the
Hawaii state government with this system and they messed up

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big time. Uh. Wasn't it some years ago? I forget
what happened? Wasn't there Uh? What administration was it? When
the plane was supposed to do a fly by? I
guess it was Air Force one was supposed to fly
by the Statue of Liberty and you know down lower
Manhattan planes close to ground that everything was. It was
it Obama, but I don't remember now, but there was

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a plane that that flew it was a government plane.
I think it was Air Force one that flew too
close to Uh. Um, let me know, guys, let me know.
We got producer Mike in uh in the chair today,
so he's he's with us now. We've had some changes
here in the Freedom Hut, which I'll also talk to
you about later on. I want to get a chance.
But yeah, producer Michael, let me know what the what

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the deal is with that. I'm pretty sure it was.
I think I see. I don't want to say it
was Obama because then it's like I'm blaming the Obama
administration more than I already do for things. But I
think it was that. I mean, they flew a plane
close to Statue of Liberty, but it also frightened some
people because it was there, we go That's what I thought. Yeah,
So Lower Manhattan was hit on nine eleven by two

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planes find close to skyscrapers, so they decided to fly
Air Force one for a photo op very close to
Statue of Liberty, which people that remember are people who
remember what happened that day eleven. When you have a
jumbo jet that's getting pretty close to to ground down there,
that that weirded some people out. Understandably, this is, you know,
similar to that in terms of the ineptitude, the foolish

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decision making and all that. But then it also raised
the issue of wow um. One of the reasons this
was so frightening was that it's conceivable, right. One of
the problems here is that if you were to get
a message those of you listening to the show, uh,
those of you who are listening to the show in

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the Midwest. If you've got a message that you know
China was invading, you might be like, well, I mean,
I think they're gonna have I'm not sure they'd get
here first, you know, I'm sure the Chinese invasion force
is gonna have, you know, paratroopers over Omaha first. They
probably have to go to one of the coasts. There's

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there's other stuff that would happen that wouldn't concern you,
But Hawaii a nuclear missile that's actually concerning because it
could happen because it's within range and there's a belligerent
power there. So we should talk a bit about this
because there's a new era we have entered now of
perhaps having to think again about the possibility of a

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conventional military strike, even a nuclear military strike against the homeland.
That's very different from where we have been psychologically as
a country for a long time, for almost all of
my adult life. We will get into that and much
more after the break. What do you think about this Hawaii? Thank?
Am I missing something? Is there a part of this,

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that part of this that I've left out that you
think is important here? Do you do you think of
some of some of suggested that this could not have
been a mistake, that maybe this was either a really
dumb prank or or a sending some kind of a message.
I don't know. I'm just wondering if you have you've
got thoughts out there about this? Eight four to five,

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eight four buck. We have much more show coming up,
my friends, So stay with me instant. The launches made,
we know it, and then will very quickly make a
judgment about whether we're being threatened or not. And then
a notified appropriate command, and it's that command that would

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marry up with local state emergency management centers. In this case,
of course, there was no launch, and that emergency management
center acted on their own without a military command advising
them that they have detected the launch. Not only detected
a launch, but it's a threat to them. The emergency
management center in Hawaii, they know full well that they

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should not be providing an alert to their citizens without
the military command advising. And that's such a thing actually exists,
and it's actually threatening to the people in Hawaii, and
that did not happen. Jack Keene over Fox News saying
how an actual missile launch would be, well, how we
know about it? What would happen. What we would uh,

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how how that chain of information would work. Oh, by
the way, before producer Mike told me that it was Obama,
he gave me the date too, but I just said,
oh yeah, I forgot he wasn't on air. So but
the point is that, yes, it was the Obama administration
that flew a flue Air Force one too close to
the Statue of Liberty, and it gave some people quite
a jolt and lower Manhattan because it reminded them of

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what happened on eleven. Mike in uh Winston Salem, North
Carolina got some ideas about what happened. Mike. Good to
have you. Hey, how are you doing tonight? I'm all right,
thank you for calling. Thank you. Yeah, I'm I'm programmed
PLCs and and things like that. And got a theory
that may play into here. Um, there's a couple of

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problems that I'm hearing this was a training exercise, if
I'm not mistaken where I've heard. And it's possible that
whoever programmed this PLC or touch screen is what I'm
assuming it is. I don't think it's actually manual buttons anymore.
My guess is that this was a PLC or PC
that had a touch screen, and somebody hit the screen,

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and when it came up to do the next step,
they did it, and from there in a training exercise.
My assumption is that they wouldn't actually be able to
trigger the alarms that would go into a another mode,
and that was probably where the problem is going to
be found out. That's my opinion. Just feel like you're
gonna see that this was a programming issue or an

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h m I issue human human machine interface was not
connected correctly, or a procedure issue. I don't. I think
they panicked the first time and tried to correct it
so fast that they hit it again. That's just where
I'm seeing right now. And and it's sad, But so
do you so, Mike, You've got you look, I appreciate
your expertise here. You think that the individual who is responsible,

(18:09):
who has been reassigned, maybe didn't mess up quite so
much as people think in terms of how much responsibility
is on him or her as opposed to the system. Right?
Is it? Is? It? Is it your analysis that the
system maybe here was part of the problem. The programming
of the system. There there were some fail safes that
were in place that did fall in there. What happened

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was I feel that the that what happened is the
is the programmer didn't follow through with his programming. They
didn't check the system to see if this would happen, because,
like I said, I feel I've heard that this is
a training exercise, and a training exercise should never be
allowed to go to the final point. It should show
up on the screen or you should show up on

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the PLC or whatever that there that this can happen.
But it's supposed to be locked out, so it can't happen.
So I don't thought this person not I'm not saying
I'm not saying that the system isn't broke, but I
think it's a programming issue as much as anything else.
Right now, all right, Mike, thank you so much for
the call. Good to have you an sir. All right, man,
I appreciate thank you. Eight four N two five. You

(19:16):
got any more thoughts? A little more just on the
implications of living in a world where we actually have
to be concerned about nuclear weapons aimed at us, because
that's new for us, isn't it, folks? That? And then
the latest on the budget ceiling fight, and also Docca
and some what's the other thing I'm leaving off here

(19:38):
that I want to talk to you about. I'm forgetting
what it was. Oh yeah, someone got uh well, it's
kind of complicated. Let's just say that I'm gonna talk
to you about Azizon. Sorry. Later in the show you'll
see why they're right there. He's holding the line for America.

(20:05):
Buck Sexton his back understanding why North Korea has developed
and is holding on so tightly to these nuclear weapons
because they see it as the only deterrent against the
US coming in and overthrowing the regime there. So that
exists as a result again of our decades long regime
change war policies around the world, that North Korea is

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now in a position where Kim Jong un is saying,
no way, I'm not going to give up these nuclear
weapons because he doesn't see that credible message coming from
the United States that we don't We're not interested in
overthrowing your government. We're interested in removing this nuclear threat
from our country in the world. All right, I take
it all back. That was representative from Hawaii, Tulsei Gabert
and and everything she said was idiotic there, and she

(20:49):
has no idea what she's talking about, And forget about
me saying that she's a democrat. She's one of the
democrats that I like more than other democrats. I take it,
I take it all back. She's that was That was
a terrible display of ignorance. There few things the idea
that North Korea has nukes because of us. The only
way somebody could think that is if they have not

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even the faintest familiarity with the ideological origins of the
North Korean state, with the Kim dynasty, with the functioning
of North Korea, with the reason for that state's existence.
No one could say that North Korea wants nukes because
of us if they knew any of that other stuff.

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Because the truth is that North Korea wants to invade
South Korea, and North Korea can prevent a US invasion
of South Korea. It doesn't need a nuclear deterrent for
US to be uh stopped from going in Militarily, they
can destroy most of for all of Seoul, South Korea

(21:59):
very rapidly with conventional artillery. Plus North Korea has chemical
and biological weapons. At least we think who knows, We don't.
We don't really know what it has, but I'm sure
it's got all kinds of nasty stuff. Plenty of reason
to believe that North Korea has managed to hide away
all kinds of w m D that aren't even the

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nuclear variety. But this is a little guy. I understand
for some people who are ignorant about foreign policy and
how the world works, it's great to just find some
tie in to blame Trump in this administration. But this
phrases in a more serious way, putting aside Gabbard's nonsense.

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In a more serious way, it's worth noting, Uh, they're
our concerns now about what the future looks like in
the world that's going to have more states with nuclear weapons.
Here's what people don't want to say out loud, but
most of the folks that I know who have some
idea what they're talking about will will say at least

(23:02):
offline or you know, away from microphones. Very likely that
North Korea is going to get nuclear weapons that could
hit anywhere in the world soon, and it is very
unlikely that anyone's going to do anything about it. It
is also likely that Iran will get nuclear weapons at

(23:26):
a more distant point in the future. Of the North
Korea is completion of its ballistic and nuclear weapons programs,
and I don't think anyone will do anything about Iran
having it. And at that point you have major not
just problems of dealing with the missile threat, but also
non proliferation issues. And you know, what do we do

(23:48):
within Iranian regime that wants to give Let's say the
Assad regime in Syria which has still state in power.
You don't hear much about it these days, but what
do we do if the Iranian get nukes and then
sneak them nukes? And where does that stop? You know
who else is gonna want to get it? And clearly,
if the Irani's get nws societies, you're gonna want to
get nukes. And at some point in the relatively near future,

(24:12):
the Japanese may decide, you know what, North Korea is
going to be pointing weapons that are capable of eradicating us,
pointing them at us. Then we will have to do
something ourselves. We can't just count on the good word
and good graces of the United States of America to
back us up on that. These are very real concerns

(24:34):
and we are entering a world where I think much
more so than many are willing to say right now
we're going to be relying on missile defense systems instead
of no one else can have missiles other than who
already has them. The pace this the spread of information,

(24:55):
including highly sensitive information, much of it pillaged via cyber
means from places like the United States, but from all
over the world's accelerating all the time. And nuclear weapons
really are are a knowledge issue as much as the
material one, and once they have the knowledge, there's really
not much we can do about it to stop them

(25:15):
unless we're really going to threaten military action. Does anyone
really believe that the Iranians have given up their quest
for nukes? I don't think so, does anyone, Well maybe
some former Obama administration officials, but does anybody with uh
an i Q that reaches in the high two digits
and above. I mean, this is really not overly complicated

(25:38):
stuff when you try to look at it from a
realistic point of view. I mean, it's very complicated as
an issue, But I'm saying, whether the Iranians want nukes
or not, they want nukes, it's not that hard. They
want nukes. North Korea wants nukes that can hit us,
and the belligerent posture of North Korea. To take us
back to what Miss Gabber, Representative Gabber said at the

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beginning of the segment, Now, the war like pose of
North Korea is not our fault. It is really the
only posed North Korea knows. It's the only one that
it has. It is all that it can offer. And
when you have a state that doesn't have a second dear,
if it doesn't have another speed, it doesn't have another path,

(26:23):
it's just it exists to be a military force and
and an absolutism, a dynasty that has a despotism. What
are we really hoping it turns into regime change that
would be such a blessing for the world. We're gonna
give up the idea of regime change in North Korea.
What's the point of what's the point of international relations?

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You're just gonna sit around and say, yeah, sure, North Korea,
you get to keep you, do you? North Korea keep
being a prison camp above ground in a concentration camp
below it. It's astonishing to see how many people in
this country and elected office and positions of power would
rather use North Korea as an opening or use this

(27:05):
missile test debacle as an opening to criticize the president
then to address very real problems that we face. I
didn't ever have to do the I know many of
you listening did. I'm sure I never had to do
the drill where we got under the desk. I've seen
the videos of it, and I would note that, sure,

(27:26):
depending on how close you were to a nuclear blast,
being under the desk wouldn't really save you. But if
you're at a certain distance, actually I believe the shock
wave could possibly hit the building and maybe debris would fall.
So hiding under the desk was not necessarily always as
foolish as it looked, but it looked pretty foolish as
a means of trying to save people. And also, you

(27:47):
look at a situation like Hawaii. If there were a
ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead through an I CBM
en route two North Korea, I mean, too uh Hawaii,
and we hadn't stopped it in flight. What procedures do
we really have in place? What would we do? I

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think the answer is that very few people would have
the means, the ability, the lead time to get to
a safe haven underground. A lot of people would die
so it's disturbing. It's disturbing. It's a reminder of why
we need to take all of this so seriously. But

(28:29):
it's disturbing that we don't have great answers to many
of these questions right now. So the good news is
there was no ballistic missile going toward Hawaii. And actually
just got a text message a minutego from Miss Molly.
She sent me a photo where she is. Hawaii is beautiful.
Aloha Hawaii. It's a great state. Not great politicians or
judges out there, but a great state. And I'm gonna

(28:52):
have to go back out there and check it out.
Roll into a break here, we're gonna talk a bit
about the fight that is just getting just getting rolling
right now because it's a federal holiday, so the government's
on a break. But the fight over Dacca and the
debt ceiling this week, where do I think all of
that is going? Plus this the story about his zase

(29:14):
On Sorry, who's an actor who's gotten caught up in
the Me too movement in a way that we're we're
going to work. We're gonna work through this. We're gonna
talk with this together because I think we've seen yet
an yet another instance of someone who is guilty based
upon accusations in the eye of the public, and in

(29:35):
this case it's worth even visiting. What are these accusations
all about. I don't know how many of you know.
He's a very well known stand up comedian and he
was in the show Parks and Wreck, which I like
very much. Somebody wrote a just a a character assassination
piece about the guy. I don't know if it's true
or not, but it's it's meant to take him down
how much I do know. We'll talk about that coming

(29:56):
up in the next hour. So stay right there, team
be back. Honestly, I don't think you do want to
make it feel I think they talked about God, but
they don't want to help the daughter of people now
looking to shake and said, it's not the builders, the
kildre are Gilder. Well, listen, I think you have a

(30:19):
lot of sticking points, but the roll down agraph taken
points because we already you will. You can able to
make a deal, but they don't want to. They don't
want security as a border to get people pouring in.
They don't want superior as to border. They don't want
to stop a drugs and they want to take money
away from a military's thinking not to do don't throws
to some of these change the other hurt. Did you

(30:40):
see what various senators in the room set about my commence?
They were a man we only didn't very complete. No, No,
I'm not a racist. I had the least racist person.
You have better figured that I can tell you. Are
you gonna make it feel miser President? I don't know
that a shut down the should be because it there
is a military dead. Do you think ability to make

(31:07):
a deal and that your return and we're ready will
get able to make a deal on doc But I
don't think the Democrats want to make a dealt the
poach from doctors. You know, the Democrats are the ones
that aren't going to make a deal. Thank you everybody
hearing yourself, Thank you Democrat version of a deal on DOCCA.

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I'm sorry if if you had troublesom that audio was
not great today. You know that was the best we
could do, was out in whatever it was, out in
the gallery or wherever it was. But the Democrat version
of a deal on DOCCA goes something like this, Uh,
give us DOCCA and then fund the government the end

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and that's not a deal. This is gonna be very
interesting because there's really no way, in my mind, there
is no way that the Trump administration, there's no way
that the Republicans can lose this argument over DOCCA if
they stick to the script, if they stay on message,

(32:11):
because I haven't heard anything that Democrats are willing to
do to meet them, never mind halfway, just to do
something in response to what what they want. Right, they
want DOCCA, and that's the way it's going to be,
and then everything else has to get funded if the
GOP goes along with this. By the way, we really
have to start asking the question, what's the point of

(32:31):
voting in a lot of these Republicans. Okay, sure they'll
the tax cuts. Tax cuts are good, that's all. That's
all fine, But if unrestricted illegal immigration becomes the norm
for this country, we're gonna have much bigger problems in
the long run than just what the tax rate is.
And by the way, I haven't given up yet on
the notion of a flat tax, are a fair at tax.

(32:53):
I'm not yet in a place where I'm just gonna say, yeah,
you know, so I dropped the corporate rates, so everything's
great now. Yeah, we still pay too much in taxes everybody.
The I R. S is still a monstrosity. It's still
far too big, still far too powerful. So there's this
DOCCA thing, and then there's also they're back and forth
over the well, why don't I'll hold that? Actually they

(33:18):
oh my gosh, did you hear what Trump's out over
the weekend? Oh my gosh, Well, not over the weekend,
but that's what they were saying over the weekend. Are
It's so terrible. I I want to get to it,
but I'm gonna hold off on that for right now.
I think that we can stay on the issue of
DOCA in the dead ceilings. So here's my here's my

(33:39):
prediction if I can make one. Uh well, actually, you
know what, No, I'm not as certain this time. I
was gonna say, they're just gonna kick the can down
the road. There's not gonna be a shutdown. Maybe there
will be a shutdown this time because Democrats aren't gonna
budge a Republicans truly hold them to what the initial

(34:01):
asks were from Trump, border security and to chain migration,
uh funding for a wall, any of that stuff, particularly
those two chain migration a wall. Oh e verify should
really be at the top of that list too. If
Trump insists on that and the Republican Congress insists on it,
guess what Democrats won't budge on it. They are absolutists

(34:25):
on their quasi open borders policy. They're they are absolutists
on amnesty and then on open borders. You know that
they want people to have to stop and check in
so that you know the government is more able to
give them taxpayer provided services and register them to vote
for Democrat. But everyone gets to come in and stay right.

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No one should be prevented from going in the United
States based on the Democrat view. But this is really
going to force their hand. There's no way that we
get past this point in the debate, in the discussion
without no ing whether or not one Republicans are serious
and to our Democrats just completely intransigent. Do they merely demand,

(35:11):
even in the minority policy concessions from Republicans and get them.
And if that's the case, we should all sit around
and ask ourselves why, why is that true? Why is
that happening? So we will see if there's a shutdown,
though this might be the first time that the X
factor really comes into play the X factor being Trump.

(35:35):
With Trump as the Republican Party leader in a shutdown
center the reason why in the past, despite all the stuff,
you know, Ted Cruise is really think I want to
have a shutdown. I mean, you know, despite all that
stuff in the past, Uh, I mean I like I
like Takers. I I was supportive of Ted Cruise. Here's

(35:57):
a little story. I interviewed Ted Cruise when he was
trying to I did a very nice profile of him
when he was running in the Republican primary against Dewhurst
in Texas. But I don't I don't really spend a
lot of time chasing down politicians to be on on
this show because I just I don't care all that much.
If they say something interesting, I'll use the sound bite

(36:19):
on the show. But interviewing them, I feel like everyone's
interviewing politicians all the time. I don't. I don't find
it that worthwhile away for us to spend our time here.
But yeah, I was with Ted Cruise really on. I
did always think it was funny though, that some people
figured out in time that Ted Cruise only had one
speed and it was Constitution. I love the Constitution. I

(36:39):
was having my quarter Fleix yesterday, and it was as
though George Washington and John Adams were right there with
me with the Constitution. You know, he's very he's got
one speed. He's a good guy, smart guy, but not
a charming guy at the national political level. And that
was one of his problems. Trump. Trump can fight, Trump

(36:59):
can charm. Trump has all kinds of speeds. And if this,
and the reason this matters so much, is that the
dead ceiling fight turns if it turns into a government shutdown,
that is a public perception battle. Who's responsible for the shutdown?
Or a better way of saying it is, why are
we in this situation right now? Who gets blamed for

(37:22):
the shutdown? And in the past it had always been
Republicans are gonna get blamed. Republicans are gonna get blamed
if we go into a government shutdown scenario because Democrats
say they want DOCCA and will give nothing in exchange.
And Trump is out there banging the drum, so to speak,
you know, making a lot of noise, making sure that
everyone understands what's going on here. Maybe Republicans will have

(37:43):
some stiffened spines and realize that they're the majority party,
right now they should be able to inact laws and policy,
and it shouldn't be dictated to them by the Democrats
who just get to sit there and say, now, I
don't want that, Noah, unacceptable, unacceptable. I would also note

(38:03):
that DOCCA is a trojan horse for much of the
rest of the Democrat amnesty and I have concerns about
whether the Republicans should give into DACA in any way,
shape or form. Here. I know that's a little intense
for some people, but I could work through why that
is for you curious eight four eight to five eight

(38:24):
four four nine buck our two is upon us. So
if you're right back, he's back with you now, because
when it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck

(38:44):
never stops. Welcome to the Buck, Sex and Show, everybody.
Welcome back to the Buck section show from any of you.
So I was just talking about policy before. What should
we do on immigration? What should be about DOCCA? I
don't know why Republicans feel like they have to give in.
Don't we have the majority in the House, the Senate,

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doesn't Trump have the White House. Why why are we
just talking about doing what the Democrats want? I am
hoping that there will be a reckoning within the GOP
and a reckoning for Democrats that they do not have
to do with the other side tells them to. But
you can see where Democrats are going with all this,

(39:27):
the comments about a a whole. I keep saying craphole
because I believe it was somebody was on air over
the weekend. I forget it was now who said who
used the letter s and then also instad of that
hole and then people said it sounded like something else,
And so I'm not gonna pull the CNN here and

(39:48):
just start cursing up the joint. That's not okay. Let's
see an end love doing that last week. But they
were talking about this all weekend and it was clearly
something of a competition among the various pundits posing as
journalists at CNN and be like, oh my gosh, I'll
get Trump saying this. It's the most it's the sadest thing.

(40:12):
It's like these like these countries are amazing, and like
every country is equally amazing, and like, you know, that's
a good way to look. They add zeros, add zeros
the contract. I'm sure you know they get they get
a bigger check at the next negotiation for their contract
if they they play the game just right over there, right,

(40:33):
Trump is like, such a racist. I go home at
nine nine nightmares because it's such a racist. A lot
of that, a lot of that going on over there,
a lot of you know, the left is there's a
lot of weeks week sauce. I'll just put it that
with a lot of week sauce. You had John Berman. Hi,

(40:54):
John Berman. He's over there and and he got a
little he got a little feisty over this whole thing.
He's a see the way, you're like, who's John Berman?
You don't have to know, but he works at CNN. So, Josh,
I'm tempted to say that Republican Senators Perdue and Cotton
are going on TV denying the comments were said, and
they're hanging it on the difference between a blank hole

(41:16):
and a blank house. One might reasonably ask, are you
effing and kidding me? Well, I'm not going to to
to get into that. There there you have it. Yeah,
the Republicans are the ones that are are so great.
Trump is the one that's causing all the problems here
because he said some some crappy countries are actually crappy.

(41:39):
He didn't say that we we've made this distinction right away.
He didn't say the people were crappy. Okay, that would
be wrong. That's not that's not okay, that's not right.
So the countries are and there are crappy countries, I said.
I didn't hear many people making this argument. I think
it's a good one. If I said North Korea was crappy,
no one's gonna say, oh, book, that's so racist. No,

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South Korea is great, right, I mean, it's not about
Korean people or Asian people anything else. North Koreai is
a bad country. In fact, I think the crappy country
debate can. I think a great way to look at
it is to look at the Korean peninsula. Right. It's
about the country, not the people, not the way they look,
not the ethnicity they're religious, back or anything else. We're

(42:21):
just talking about the country here. North Korea very crappy.
South Korea great. Difference of government, difference of state. That's it.
So it's not about being mean or nasty or undermining
anyway or you know. I mean, I'm I'm from New
York City, and I mean I would say there are
parts of New York City that are crappy, A lot

(42:44):
less crappy now than they used to be. But there
are parts of the city they're crappy. I mean, I
live here, I can say it was. What's the problem.
There's some parts with that are wonderful. Right, it depends.
But a plane spoken and dare I say, blunt residency
on issues that so many of us feel like we've
had to dance around for such a long time is

(43:06):
refreshing Trump. I have not met a single I said this.
When I say met, I haven't spoken to a single
Trump supporter who after those comments like, oh my gosh,
that's too much for me, sir, how dare you now
there's none of that. They're like, yeah, I mean, you know,
maybe maybe be a little more cautious about what you

(43:29):
say in front of uh Durban. But Trump is saying,
by the way, that Durban lied. Here's his tweet Senator
Dicky Durbin, Oh, is that is that another nickname? Have we?
Has he been dubbed? Has the has the derbs been
dubbed Dicky Durban? Look at that. Senator Dicky Durbin totally

(43:51):
misrepresented what was said at the Docka meeting. Trump tweeted
deals can't get made when there is no trust Durban
Ludaca and is hurting our military. So Trump is saying
that it's not true. And then they got on this
fight over the specifics of the words. You know, they're
not allowed to say on Thursday or Friday whenever it

(44:12):
broke Democrats and not allowed to say, Oh my gosh,
did you hear the words that he said? It was
like so upsetting, like the words he used, like I
was just like, oh my gosh, like I'm so sad.
And then when Trump says, well, actually didn't use those words,
they go, well, excuse me, mister, write and use those words.
But it's not the words. Well is it the words
or not? Is it? Was it the profanity or the

(44:34):
sentiment if it's a sentiment, if it's just criticizing the countries.
There are countries that deserve criticism. They're also countries that
are just in a very desperate situation because of stuff
that's happened to the to the country. Right, I mean,
natural disaster is different than say, you know, a bloody
reign of narco terrorism or something. But you know, bad

(44:55):
things happen in in good in good countries, bad things
happen to good people. The media freaking on this. It's
just the divide between people that don't want to hear
it anymore about how much the left hates Trump and
the people who just want Trump hatre It just gets
bigger and bigger all the time. I don't even want
to have a conversation with some of these people out

(45:17):
there in the media, particularly because I come across them,
We're just like, oh gosh, Trump is the worst. It's
just any day now. And I was like, any day now,
what any day now? What Trump's gonna He's gonna tweet
something offensive? Oh No, maybe there should stop and just
think it's possible Democrats leftist. It's possible that all that

(45:41):
uh flowery rhetoric from the Obama administration, all of his
uh pseudo intellectual prose about policy, was meaningless. Maybe it
doesn't matter quite as much as so many seemed to
think it does to have a president who sounds like
he knows what's going on right. The perception of eloquence

(46:06):
is much less important than the reality of policy. Trump
is giving us the reality of policy. I don't really
care much about the tone. People can complain about it. Sure,
I sometimes say I wish he would say things a
little bit differently, but you know, I'm not expecting him
to be perfect. He's not perfect. We know that it's
far from it. But nobody would think that that was

(46:28):
a fair gauge, a fair standard for what's going on here.
They just though they just hate this guy. By the way,
you even had Alveda King come out on Fox News
to say that it is outrageous who called Trump a racist?
What is so outrageous to call a man a racist
who continues to acknowledge the significant work of Dr Martin

(46:52):
Luther King Junior, Reverend Dr Martin Luther King Junior, my
uncle in a positive way, and he puts his money
where his mouth is, he puts his energy behind it
and in making America great again, you know, perhaps saying
that in Haiti and in Africa, so you know, Africa
is a huge continent with many nations, that was no
offense to the people, a lot of dignity to the people.

(47:14):
But the hell holes in that some of their own
leaders in Africa and Haiti have have taken advantage of
them and the area and done a disservice to the people.
Yet they're all running around in the media saying Trump
is such a racist. I can tell you one thing,
Trump is not a racist. There are plenty of places

(47:34):
where one could direct criticism of Trump personally or professional.
Otherwise I'd say, well, you know, it's a that's a
fair critique. Trump is not a racist. And the more
the media latches onto that as their primary method of
pushing back against this this presidency, I think I don't
know how much more trust they can lose, because I
don't know if we trust them at all. But it

(47:56):
is it is frustrating. It is frustrating, and you know,
for the president to have say things like this, I'm
not a racist, it's a shame that the media perpetuates
all this. It's a shame the TV journalists go on

(48:18):
air and tell their viewers that the President United States
is a racist, the President United States hates or thinks
less of, or treats people differently because of the color
of their skin. They have no evidence of this whatsoever.
They just have statements that they don't like. They don't
understand that many of us have rejected the culture of

(48:40):
calling everything racist that we don't like that has existed
on the American left for so many years. That the
hypersensitivity around issues of race has been counterproductive, and then
we rejected. They don't accept any of this, the laft,
the Democrats, the media, but we don't have to accept
server of events either. It's a shame. The president should

(49:02):
be able to focus on other things, but they would
rather just continue to debate racism. All right, we'll take
uh if you want to call in talk about what
you think about DACA or Trump or anything else going
on in that world. Eight four four, eight to five.
I've kind of talking about this as he's on, sorry
thing because it ties right into the Me Too movement

(49:25):
in a way that deserves some of our attention. And
we'll have much more Buck, and we'll be right back
fake news better running high because the Buck Sexton Show
is back. Gary in Biloxi, Mississippi. Gary, welcome to the
Freedom Hunt. Yes, but thank you for turking my call, buddy.

(49:49):
Thank you. I hope that they don't do anything but
get these people from Daka out of here, because all
that's nothing but a big fraud. And they've had a
lot of people on t V that's explained who they
are and why they're doing this. The other thing, Buck
is I'm wanting to shout out to Jeff Sessions in

(50:09):
Washington to do how about enforcing the law, because we
are being flooded the Southeastern states with the illegals and
the body they bringing everybody with them, everybody, but there's
never any enforcement. I mean, I don't care how many
people you speak to. Nobody ever sees nobody being checked out,
nobody's going through their house, nobody's checked I mean, you

(50:31):
you know who they are. And just like, for example,
in walmarts, I mean you can talk to some of
the employees there, man, and it's just it's just crazy.
I mean, where where's all these people? And so finally
one of the one of the employees there said that
they think there's gonna be an amnesty. Well they they're
right in thinking that, because that's what Democrats are promising everybody.

(50:53):
Well yes, but I mean you know there's nothing being done,
no bucks what I'm saying, Oh of course, Well there's
no political will Gary from for the no political will
for the Democrats, in fact, the opposite of it, to
enforce the law. And let's be very clear, there are
a lot of Republicans are not just okay with the
status quo. They really secretly favorite. You know, they like
they like the inexpensive labor. It's good for corporate interests,

(51:16):
good for the donor class, and that's a big problem.
Doesn't get much attention. That's my other point book. Paul
Ryan should be run out of town and all his buddies,
his close buddies, like the guy that hangs with him,
all of tame. They're not Republicans, they're not conservatives. They're
just a ryhano I would say. The communists. Really, they're
coming there. There's a lot of rhine. I can accept. Commune.

(51:39):
Maybe a little far there, Gary, but I know where
I think I know where your heart is on this one.
But he needs to go. He needs to gool man.
I mean, people should realize that. I've heard some people,
intelligent people, talking to some of these other people on
the on their shows, and they got Ryan picked out too.
They know what he is. He's a fraud and a phony.
Well he's on immigration, Gary, And thank you so much

(52:00):
for your calling from Missisippi. I appreciated my friend on immigration.
Ryan's terrible. He takes this point of view. I've been
exposed to it from friends of mine who are from
the more libertarian side. Uh. He takes this point of
view that if you just bring in more and more labor,
there's more productivity GDP growth and it's good for everybody.

(52:24):
But if that were the case, why have any immigration laws.
You know, you can just reason your way through why
you're or how and why you're being lied to about
immigration all the time. If I'm restricting And there are
people the Cato Institute, for example, it's a libertarian think
tank in DC. Uh, there's one guy forget his name,
He goes on TV sometimes and it's just he's a

(52:46):
hardliner on open borders and he's a libertarian. And I
would say, oh, but you know, the more people we
take in, the better it is for the economy. And
you say to yourself, hold on a second, we're twenty
We're twenty in debt, mostly because of obligation sens to seniors. Right.
That's the biggest single driver of the dead is entitlements.

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And the unfortunate truth is that a lot of people
are going to take out about twice what they paid
into medicare over the course of their life once they
are eligible for medicare, which means you're getting more money
than you gave, which means somebody else is going to
have to pay for the money. Right, somebody else has
got to pick up those expenses. How is bringing in
people who are even less productive and less likely to

(53:29):
be net contributors to society? How is that going to
help this situation? So you can't tell me that open
borders is a good thing and the welfare state can
stay as is. You can't tell me that open borders
is a good thing and the entitlement state that we
have can stay. And this is what all the Paul

(53:51):
Ryan's and the Cato that they never addressed this. And
then there's an even and that's just on a purely
economic level. When you go to the more recent debate,
it's about what is it due to a country when
you reach a critical massive individuals who are there illegally

(54:11):
or even legally, but just who are new immigrants in
very large numbers from countries that are culturally quite desparate.
You know, this kind of reminds me of the whole
crappy country conversation. I think that there are Democrats who
will tell you that culturally the United Kingdom is, you know,

(54:31):
people from the UK are not culturally more able to
assimilate in the United States than say people from Somalia
or people from North Korea or you know, name a country.
They say, oh, no, no, no, you can't say that.
You can't say that their cultures aren't. Of course, that's nonsense, right,
some cultures are more similar to ours than others when

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you take in large numbers of immigrants from cultures that
not just are dissimilar, but that clash with ours. And yes,
this is what Europe is dealing with with the large
numbers of Muslim immigrants from war torn, in many cases,
very poor, very violent countries. You know you're you're importing
in large numbers people who are disproportionately going to have

(55:17):
certain attitudes, beliefs, and yes, problems. It doesn't mean everyone.
It just means policy needs to be a function or
you need to view policy in the aggregate based on
the overall numbers. Right, we make laws not with the
idea that each and every individual human being that maybe

(55:39):
gets caught up in a certain law is a bad person.
But look, we got we gotta make laws, we gotta
have punishments. On balance, are some people going to get
in trouble because they violate certain laws? Even though they
are otherwise good people. Yes, sure, but if our approach
is just well, you know, everyone makes mistakes, there's no will,
there's no desire to enforce the law. What are we

(56:02):
left with as a country. And it's true of our borders,
and it's true of our sense of self to whether
we have a political culture that can be sustained. You know,
you look at Canada for example, Hey Canada, what's up?
You look at Canada that they free speeches is dying
in Canada and it's happening rapidly, free speech going away.

(56:26):
How far is that from happening here? Once free speech goes,
I would note, then anything, then anything is really up
for grabs. Then they could push any number of things
on you. So James in Newport News, Virginia, what's up, James? Hi? Um?
I just wanted to call. I was for military and
wasn't uncommon if you got a duty station that was
not in a good place, like it was remote and

(56:48):
it was not a whole lot of services there. You know,
you know, we would call. So I would ask you
what do you think about? You would say it's an
S whole or an A whole. I mean, it's that
language has nothing to do as the people that live there. Um.
It has totally to do with, uh, the situation about
living here. And if anybody wants to argue that Somalia

(57:10):
is a hard place, you know, I'm guess hiving an
example having against Somalia is is not a bad place,
a hard place to live in, um or a place
that you wouldn't want to live. I don't know how
they can make that argument, but UM, I guess that's
one thing I wanted and um to talk about. And
then I guess the other was just you know, I

(57:30):
think Trump needs to to speak more to these issues,
uh around racism. First, his seven years old, right, I mean, uh,
anyone ever called him a racist when he was you know, anywhere,
know when he was working in media, when he was
in New York City and a very public figure. No
one ever thought he was a racist until he ran
as a Republican, right, like a New York Liberal is

(57:52):
probably not a racist, particularly if he's in business. No,
I doubt it. And I guess the other thing is, um,
what he was trying to stay with this statement? What
do you you know? They he needs to talk about
his his plan for America and He's talked about trying
to alleviate the poverty in the cities, and they're giving
those people opportunities just like other Americans. I'm with you, James,
We've got to ruling to break though. Thank you, my friend.

(58:14):
Team will be back with much more other shows. Just
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(58:36):
buck us back with our next play team. You know
that four months now I've been warning about the inevitable
excesses injustices and politicization of the me too movement. I
knew it would happen, and it is already happening. You

(58:59):
had some very odious sexual predators who were thankfully outed
and received at least some measure of justice, or perhaps
they're they're victims, received some as a measure of justice
by the public humiliation of individuals who clearly were acting
and atrocious and maybe even a felony criminal fashion. But

(59:25):
there are other people who have been in trouble, and
you say, we'll wait a second, what exactly did they
do here? And the commentary around some of the very
big cases of the me too movement has been troubling,
not all of it, but some of it you'll hear
things like, well, we we need to make sure that
men don't ask women out in the workplace anymore. Is

(59:48):
that is that the rule is that the world we
want to live in now men can't lean in for
a kiss without asking permission first. Is that the world
that we're trying to construct, is that the America we
think is best? I know you know that, of course not.
But Democrats don't necessarily understand that at all leftists. It's

(01:00:10):
really more leftists than anything else. Democrats are leftists. But
this is within uh, a contingent. This is a contingent
of the Democrat party. And then this piece came out
about a Zas on Sorry and Now I'm I'm familiar
with his work. I've seen him as a stand up

(01:00:31):
comedian briefly on one of his specials. He was not funny,
but he was very good in the show Parks and Recreation, which,
for those who haven't seen it, you should watch it.
It's really great, very well written, very funny, but started
season two because they change some things. The first season
is not good. It's like a bad version of the Office.

(01:00:52):
The second season it really comes into its own as
a show should just skip the first season. You don't
need to see it. Go to season two. It's on Netflix.
Something else as he's on. Sorry, is already good in
the show, so you know he's he's a pretty talented actor.
He's a young guy. He's close to my age, and
over the weekend a and he's I feel like, I

(01:01:13):
don't know how many of you know him, but he's
he's pretty famous, pretty well known, particularly and well among
among media types. He's very well known. He wrote a
book I think also was a bestseller about romance called
Modern Romance, and it was an international bestseller, so or

(01:01:34):
whoever wrote it for him did a very good job. Anyway,
A woman claimed in a piece over the weekend for
what I believe is a feminist website called Babe, which
is I guess there's a there's some I don't know
why that that doesn't seem like what you would call

(01:01:55):
a feminist website necessarily, but a feminist website called babe.
And this woman claimed that his easy. She's a young
photographer twenty three years old, or she was twenty two
at the time, Um, he was thirty something, and not
that that doesn't it's just a detail, right, doesn't mean
she's completely of age and she's an adult and everything's fine, right,

(01:02:17):
But anyway, just trying to give you some of the context.
And she saw him and they I'm gonna skip because
it's it was a tough read because she gives you
every she changes her name, so it's an anonymous accusation
in print against an actor where she walks you through
every detail of what she says happened in this one

(01:02:39):
night was supposed to be something of a well. Mr
on Sarry. He was trying to make it an amorous evening,
that's one way to say it. And so she met
him and then they end up going out for dinner.
They exchanged phone numbers, you know, etcetera, etcetera. The night
in question, she called it. The title of this piece,
you wrotis I went a date with his ease. I'm

(01:03:02):
sorry it turned into the worst night of my life.
Now I'm thinking that, you know, well, wow, this must
be really terrible. I'm expecting to read in here that
disease I'm sorry, was uh yeah, slip something into her
drink and she woke up with no clothing on. I mean,
I'm I'm assuming I'm gonna read some truly horrible stuff.

(01:03:26):
And I, like a lot of other people, this piece
one totally viral over the weekend, and I did take
a short break from my crusades research for Shields High
the podcast that I'm hoping all of you listening to
the show will download on iTunes today, UH, to read
this piece. And the woman walks through a whole series
of events from the in in every detail, you know,

(01:03:48):
whether it's all accurate or not, I'm just saying. She
goes into excruising detail. You know, he put his hand here,
he touched me here, he said this to me then
and he put me up on the counter, and then
he tried to do X to me, and I tried
and I and he goes through all this and at
the end of it, it's clear that she's unhappy with
the situation. But she says that that she had it

(01:04:09):
took her wealth fair that she'd been sexually assaulted. And
what's amazing to many people, and and finally you've had
something of a a backlash against this anonymous assault. What's
amazing here is that this woman or this anonymous accusation
of sexual assault, UH, from everything that was apparent in

(01:04:35):
the article. Just didn't like what was going on, and
I saw a woman in the Atlantic called this a
form of revenge porn against disease on sorry, just meant
to humiliate and degrade him. He never used force against her.
When she said I don't want to do that, he
said okay, and they went and put their clothing on

(01:04:56):
and sat on the couch. You know, the there's a
difference between gross and criminal, or there's a difference between
uh on gallant or you know, maybe even a little
sleazy and being a predator. And this is a very
important one that society needs to be clear on. Right.

(01:05:18):
We need to have an understanding of it's not the
same thing leaning in for a kiss and then if
you don't get it, saying oh whatever, I don't want
to kiss you anyway, that's a jerk thing to do.
It doesn't make you a rapist, right, we all understand this.
Barry Weiss over the New York Times, in response to
this piece, wrote this quote, I'm apparently the victim of

(01:05:40):
sexual assault. And if if you're a sexually active woman
in the twenty one century, chances are that you are too.
That is what I learned from the expose a of
disease on Sorry, published this weekend by the feminist website Babe,
arguably the worst thing that has happened to the Me
Too movement since it began in October. It transforms what

(01:06:01):
ought to be a movement for women's empowerment into an
emblem for female helplessness. The victim in this three thousand
words stories called Grace, not her real name, and her
saga with Mr Ansarry began at a seventeen Emmy's after party.
As recounted by Grace to the reporter Katie Way, she

(01:06:21):
approached him, but he brushed her off at first. Then
they bonded over their vintage cameras, etcetera, etcetera. After arriving
at his Tribeca apartment on the appointed evening, she was excited,
having carefully chosen her outfit after consulting with friends. They
exchanged small talk and drank wine. It was white, she said,

(01:06:42):
I didn't get to choose and I prefer red, but
it was white wine. Yes, we are apparently meant to
read into the non consensual wine choice. There is a
type of young So that's the quote from Barry Weiss,
who female editorial columns for the New York Times. There
is a type of young millennial feminists out there now

(01:07:05):
that has embraced this idea that men are a problem,
and that men have to be curtailed, tamed, shamed, punished,
and the men are the cause of so many of
the problems in women's lives these days. Their minds have

(01:07:26):
been poisoned. I mean, I've actually come across them before.
I've come across near peers of mind who are just
so bitter towards men in general, not to one man,
towards men, and blame many of their problems on those
men or on men in general, And it just exudes

(01:07:47):
from them. You're you're very aware of it all the time,
and they have these feminist ideas and philosophies about how
you know, rape is always is always an act of force,
and and sexual all happens to everybody all the time,
and men are all predators. You just have to give
them enough drinks before you see it. I mean, there's
all this stuff. It comes out that they believe that

(01:08:09):
campuses are so dangerous, there's a campus rape frenzy out
there at all this it's not true. Statistics prove it's
not true. My own lived reality on Compass Compass campus
as a resident advisor who we call it resident counselor,
who was very familiar with all the on campus statistics
and cases and everything else we all knew about whenever

(01:08:31):
anything went bad. Stuff goes bad, but it was rare
and if anyone knew about it, it was very severely punished.
I mean, there are predators, it's just the difference between
there are predators and or or whatever of all men
are predators, and some women have been brainwashed into thinking this,
particularly young women right now. I mean, the the feminists

(01:08:54):
of the Hillary Clinton era have further polluted them lines
of the elder millennial feminists that that I'm personally familiar with,
who are just hateful towards men. This whole I almost
I hesitated to tell you to read this piece by

(01:09:15):
his he on his ease, and not by on his ease.
I'm sorry and this exchange because I feel like it
almost makes the problem worse and that more people. This
guy is just getting humiliated. And there's also something really
grotesque about writing about a personal encounter like this that
was not criminal. This guy based on all of the

(01:09:36):
based on everything that was written here in this article,
he did nothing criminal and and honestly not even close.
She got mad at him in a text message after
this because she said that he did not understand her
nonverbal cues. Well, what is that supposed to me? You're
an adult, You're in an apartment with somebody who's sexually

(01:09:58):
interested in you. You are not incapacitated. She wasn't saying
she couldn't consent because she was too drunk anything else.
You can use your words. You could say I don't
want to do this, you could say stop, you could
say I'm leaving, and then you know the moment someone
grabs your wrist and says, no, you're not anything else. Well,
now we got a problem. Now we got a predator.

(01:10:19):
Now we've got to take action as a society. And
you know, if you're a male that happens to be
in the woman's life who has been assaulted in such
a way, you know you may be taking action on
your own. But up to that point, it's up to her.
Meaning that you know, she's got to say no, I
don't want to do that, I'm gonna leave, don't do that.
I'm not interested in that. She can't just sit there

(01:10:39):
and let a guy do things that he wants to
do and then say afterwards, you didn't read my nonverbal cues,
you know, I would note that, yeah, there can be
physical cues too. She didn't push him away, she didn't
say no, She just kind of let him do stuff
and then stopped him at one point, and when she
said stop, he stopped. And she's accusing him in print

(01:11:01):
of sexual assault and humiliating him by saying, you know,
embarrassing things that he said to her. You know, there's
private stuff that everybody says to people in there, you know, yeah,
what is it inflict? Rante de looked at whatever. I mean,
people say things. This is uh, this is troubling. I mean,
this is now. This is not turning into a a

(01:11:22):
very destructive form of of political sport for some feminists
and it needs to stop. And I look, I feel
I don't know as he's on. Sorry, I'm sure we
would disagree on on everything pretty much based on what
I have heard of his politics, and he might be
he comes across like kind of a jerk in this article.
I'm not saying he's not a jerk. I'm just saying

(01:11:44):
to call him uh a effectively call him a rapist,
which this article does or an attempted rapist, even though
he didn't attempt to rape anything or anyone is this
is scary stuff. I mean, any guy, I gotta say,
any young guy out there who's unmarried and out on
the scene, you might want to read this and just
be aware that this is not this mentality has now

(01:12:07):
been aggravated. This this hyper feminist anti mail. You didn't
read my nonverbal cues, so you're a rapist and I'm
gonna publicly call you that or sexual assaulter. Now that's
out there. Guys, you know you gotta be careful because
they're getting the media running arounds like, oh yeah, that's right,
me too. Every women need to be believing. I mean,
this is all happening. There's a mobilization here of a

(01:12:30):
mob mentality, and a lot of innocent guys are going
to get ruined by it too. And it's already happening. Yeah,
a lot of bad ones have but a lot of
innocent ones are going to as well. All right, I've
got lines lit. We gotta take some calls. We'll be
right back. Chuck in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Chuck, you're talking

(01:13:01):
to Buck? Hey, Buck, how's it gone. It's good brother,
Thank you for calling in excellent. Say, could I make
just one fast comment about the Hawaii situation? Yeah, you
can make a medium link comment about it if you
want a right Well, actually it can be done in one,
well two words, I guess MAUI WOWI Oh what is that? Uh?

(01:13:22):
That's one of those strains of high altitude pot that
they grow over. Oh I was unaware of that we're
dealing with. This could just be like there was a
movie apocalypse WAU or something like that. Uh, you know
where people just made a lot of mistakes and whoops.

(01:13:42):
I was high. That's a whoops apocalypse. There's what we're
dealing with out there. But that's really not the main point. Okay, Yeah,
what is the main point? Chuck? Yeah, what I'd like
to talk to you about it is something that's really
been on my mind for quite some time, and that
is we always talk about the founders not paying attention
to are not being aware of machine guns in the

(01:14:04):
second amendments out of step, But what they forget about
is that I think that these guys really didn't foresee
and couldn't have foreseen these info entertainment giants that have
come on the scene that control so much of what
we see in both entertainment and news. And that's why, um,
you make the point about I can't think of her

(01:14:27):
name from Hawaii gets to come on air and say
idiotic is because she's totally covered. She does not have
to fear that under Spiek and some of these other
guys that made these morning shows, she would have been
that would have been a career ending statement. And likewise,

(01:14:47):
on the uh, the immigration, we're not getting good information,
So how do we fight back? Well, an immigration you
fight back by listening to this show is a good start.
But also you would hope that the Republican Congress that
we just elected the last in the last national election,

(01:15:10):
we'll actually get some results this year. And that's the
way it's supposed to work. There's only so much you
and I Chuck can do. Right. We can learn about it,
we can know about it, we can spread the word,
but we don't actually have any power to change immigration
policy in this country. So we can hope that the
Republican Congress gets it together. We can push them to
do so. We can spread the word and the truth
and that's what we do. But on immigration, it I

(01:15:33):
am um, I am a skeptic about the GOP doing
what needs to be done on immigration. But Chuck, thank
you for calling in from Michigan. Very much appreciate hearing
from your brother. Thank you. Yeah. I would like to
say that I'm, you know what, cautiously optimistic or something
on immigration, but I just can't. I there are too

(01:15:54):
many ways that it goes bad with with the GOP.
Too many Republicans who just prefer, well, they prefer to
say one thing when they have to get elected and
then do another when it comes to casting their votes
on immigration. And you know, it's isn't it isn't an
astonishing that we're in a country that takes in a million,

(01:16:14):
that that brings in a million legal permanent immigrants a
year or makes them permanent a year. We have a
million new permanent residents of this country each year from
outside of America, and we have to get lectures from
arrow media about how we're xenophobic or because we want
to get rid of the chain chain migration or the

(01:16:35):
diversity lottery system, we're all bad people or something. It's
it's a sign of the times. Unfortunately've lost it. We're
gonna talk about currency and Currency Wars. In just a
few moments here, let me ask you this question. We'll
set us up for what's coming up next. What would
happen if China dumped all of our U S treasury bonds?

(01:16:56):
So far, it has been a very strong year for
the US economy, and many people are looking back on
President Trump's first year in office and thinking that it's
been excellent for markets, and for employment and for business.
But what would happen if China decided that it wasn't
going to keep buying US treasuries. That's a story that's

(01:17:18):
been printed by numerous news outlets in the last week
or so. Hasving gotten that much attention, but it could
be a really big deal. Well, to help us look
at what it would mean, we've got New York Times
bestselling author James Rickard's on the phone. He is the
author of Currency Wars, The Making of the Next Global Crisis. James,
Great to have you, Great to be with you, Buck, James,

(01:17:40):
tell me what would happen? Let's just start with that
before we get into more of the thesis of your
of your book. What would happen if China decided to
stop buying US treasures? Well? At the March, and they're
the largest fignholder of US Treasury's actually the print The
people with the most treasuries are the US Federal Reserve.
Sal print money. When they print money, they buy US treasury.

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So they've got about four trillion on their books, but
China has over one trillion. So between the FED and China,
you've got five trillion dollars of the total twenty trillion
dollars of US national death. So China's huge player. At
the margin. It would tend to make interest rates go higher.
That means every day Americans would pay more for their mortgages,
credit card rates would go up, and we definitely have
a slowing effect on the US economy. But when I

(01:18:23):
saw that, I saw the same story you're referring to
her obviously watched it closely. To me, it wasn't something
they were actually going to do anytime soon. It was
more of a shot across the bottle warning to the
Trump administration, don't mess with us on trade, because we
can hit you back in the treasure market. So this
is what the kind of financial warfare is all about.
Tell me about what an actual currency war with China

(01:18:45):
would look like, and how would it. How would it
start first, Well, we actually have some experience with this.
In two thousand nine, I was asked by the Pentagon
to help facilitate it was their first ever financial war game.
As you know, war games are conducted all the time,
but this was the first financial w Again, the only
weapons are stocks, bonds, currencies, commodities, and derivatives. We did

(01:19:06):
it at the Warfare Analysis Laboratory down in near Washington,
the Applies Physics Lab. We have participation from you know,
the Uniform Military, CIA, the Fed, the Treasury, a lot
of outside experts. We did it for two days, and
in that scenario, China Russia teamed up to acquire gold,
have a new gold back currency issued out of London,
and basically run the dollar off the road. We got

(01:19:28):
kind of laughed out at the time. A lot of
people said, oh, that would never happen. But since then,
since we did that with the Pentagon in two thousand nine,
China and Russia have tripled their gold reserves. So things
are actually playing out the way we told the Pentagon
at the time. But right now it could happen on
a lot of fronts. It could happen with gold, it
could happen with cryptocurrencies, that could happen with treasuries. China
is very unlikely to dump their treasuries. That you know.

(01:19:51):
The oldest joke in banking is, if I owe you
a million dollars, I have a problem. But if I
owe you a billion dollars, you have a problem because
you have to collect it from well. Right now, in
the United States owes China a trillion dollars over a
trillion dollars, So I would say China has the problem
because the president with one phone call could freeze the
Chinese treasuries if they ever did anything kind of on

(01:20:12):
toward or disorderly in the treasury market. The president of
the authority, with one phone call called the FED and
the Treasury to freeze those securities. He wouldn't have fault
on them, and he would say that. The Chinese say,
we'll keep paying interest, but we're just going to freeze
them from now until you get back on your best behavior.
So that's one way currency war financial work can play out.
What is happening right now with our currency though, I

(01:20:34):
mean a lot of people will be asking questions, like
we're at twenty trillion in debt. There's been all this gamesmanship,
all this stuff going on with the Fed and monetary policy.
But for most folks James, right now, it feels like
everything's fine. How would things not go How would things
all of a sudden not be fine when we're talking
about US currency. Well, you know, but when you say

(01:20:55):
gamesmanship by the by the central banks and the treasure,
that's exactly the right word. They've been kind of manipulating
things behind the scene. C Right, we say the economy
is fine, I think what you really mean is that
the stock markets going up. Well, that's for sure, stock
markets going up, I think about thirty since President Trump
was elected. That feels good to a lot of people. Um,
but you know, the economy is doing a little better,

(01:21:16):
but not a lot better. Very skeptical of the impact
of this the tax bill. But but the problem from
the from the Chinese perspective, you know this, uh, this
whole financial war is coming to a head. The President
has been issuing to do something on the trade front.
Remember he said he was gonna, you know, tear up
and after he has not done that, uh he um,
you know, he said he was going to build a

(01:21:36):
wall in Mexico that hasn't happened yet. So a lot
of things that Trump has talked about that that he
hasn't actually done. But one of the things he would
like to do is hit China with some sanctions on steel, aluminum,
and some other solar panels and some other things. The
problem is the President needs China's help on North Korea.
So the reason the President has held off on the
trade war with China is because we're looking for their

(01:21:58):
help with North Korea and US so to you've been
following closely, but China hasn't really done that much. They're
they're talking a good game, but they haven't really done
that much. Oil is still getting into the North Korea's
still being smuggled in. They haven't really put the strangleholds
in North Korea. So I think the president is getting
fed up with that. Trade Representative Lightheiser has been itching
to put on sanctions WI over ross degree. So I

(01:22:19):
think we'll see a trade war with China and then
that we'll just kind of fight it out in the
currency market. In in the bottom market, we're speaking to
James Rickard's New York Times bestselling author of Currency Wars,
The Making of the Next Global Crisis, James, I've got
your book right in front of me here, and it
certainly makes one thing that we could face a global
crisis when it comes to currency. How do you think

(01:22:41):
that is most likely to happen. How would it happen? Well,
see right now, because the dollar is getting a lot weaker,
and we see that in the price of gold. Everyone says,
you know, the price of gold has going up over
a hundred dollars an ounced in the past few weeks.
People go, oh, goals going up. By the way I
think about it, goal, it's not really going up. What's
happening is the dollar is going down. So you have
dollar the dollar price of goal is higher. But that's

(01:23:02):
just like a symptom that the dollar is getting weaker.
Believe it or not, The Fed wis are actually likes that.
The reason is it increases the price of imports. It
actually brings some inflation into the U. S. Economy. The
Fed once inflation they've been they've spent five years trying
to hit their target. They have not hit their target
of two percent inflation in five years. So the so
the week dollar actually helps them to meet their target

(01:23:24):
a little bit less and keep on track to to
keep raising interest rates. But the problem is the inflation
is mostly a psychological phenomena. It takes a long time
to turn the ship, but once you do, inflation can
spin out of control. We saw this in late nineteen seventies.
So yeah, there hasn't been any inflation through all this
money printing in the last eight years. But the reason
is that people have not had inflationary expectations. They're still

(01:23:46):
kind of looking at their wounds. Found the melt down
to two thousand and eight. But if that changes, it
would be very hard for the FED to contain the change.
It can change very quickly. Again, we saw that in
the late seventies. So one of the things one of
the dangers here is that the FED plays the weak
currency game, fights the currency wars with a cheap dollar,
and again we see that in the higher price of gold.
But then the inflation actually kicks in and expectations change,

(01:24:09):
and then people start to dump dollars to buy you know,
other hard assets, gold, silver, land, fine art, anything, and
turn over increases. So that I think the plans the
FED is playing with fire here in terms of setting
off a potentially dangerous inflationary cycle. In Layman's terms, James,
what is the currency war? The currency war is two

(01:24:30):
countries who cheapen their currency to still trade advantage from
their partners. So we're not always in a currency war.
But when currency wars began, they can last for ten
or fifteen years. And I talked about that in my book.
The book came out of my book Currency Wars came
out in two thousand eleven. Here we are in two
thousand eighteen, and we're still in the same currency war. Reporters,

(01:24:50):
there's a new currency where well, now, I say, no,
it's the same one. It's just been going back and forth.
Currency wars happened when there's too much debt not enough growth.
It's exactly the situation we're in today. Too much that
not enough growth, the same situation the world was in
the nineteen nine after World War One. So what countries
do is they try to get a little growth by
stealing it from their trading partners. So if I cheapen

(01:25:10):
the dollar, we'll guess what my bowing aircraft exports are there,
they're a little cheaper to foreign buyers. All US exports
are cheaper. Imports are more expensive because we're trying to
buy them with a cheaper currency, so that improves the
trade deficit. That's good for growth, and like I say,
it helps big exporters like General Electric and Bowing and
so forth. So that's the theory. The problem is that

(01:25:33):
there's retaliation. So I cheapen the dollar. Well, you know,
Europe comes along and they try to cheapen the euro,
and China comes along and they try to cheapen the
yuan and so forth. So it just goes back and
forth and back and forth like two kids on a seesaw,
and it's a negative some game. Everybody ends up worse off.
Nobody wins, but the temptation is always there to give
your economy a boost with the cheap currency. So the

(01:25:54):
Fed's doing that right now. Today the dollar is getting weaker,
and you know, maybe the US is getting a little
boost to go side by side with the stimulus and
the tax cut, but it won't last again. There'll be
some retaliation from China sooner or later, and that's how
the currency wears play out. If Trump could, uh from
read your book, and maybe he has, by the way,
but I just mean if you were to read it again,

(01:26:15):
let's say, and was to take one thing from it,
that he could do or that the government could do
right now to try and address some of the problems
that you've described for US, James, what would it be
Probably by gold. Russia's doing it, China's doing it. You
have to ask yourself, Buck, Russia and China have tripled
their gold reserves in the last nine years. Russia has

(01:26:37):
gone from about six hundred tons to almost two thousand tons.
China has gone from again around six hundred times to
almost two thousand tons. About China has a lot more
than that because they're non transparent about it. So you
have to ask yourself, you know, are the Russians Chinese
stupid or do they see something we don't. Well, I'm
in the Moscow and Beijing. I'm sure you have to

(01:26:57):
They're not stupid. They know what they're doing. And if
they are acquiring that much gold, they have to be
getting ready for some kind of international monetary collapse at reset.
And I would say one thing the U s could
do to increase its strength and beyond playing defense actually
as strength in its hand, would be to get more
gold itself. Is the music going to stop on the
US economy? James? Uh? It will sure these these financial

(01:27:21):
crisis come along almost like clockwork, every seven eight years.
You get back October seven stock market fell in one day.
That would be the equivalent of five thousand doll points today,
not five thousand. The Mexican crisis seven, the Asian crisis,
the Russia crisis two thousand, the dot com meltdown two

(01:27:44):
thousand seven, the mortgage mountdown two thousand and eight. Leman
Hi g We haven't had one since two thousand and eight.
But as they say that history says they come along
every seven eight years. We're not in a good position
for one right now. But whether it's the currency wars,
natural disaster, shooting, war with North Korea, trade war with China,
there's a lot of catalysts out there in the stock
mark you could drop like a stone. James Rickards, author

(01:28:04):
of Currency Wars The Making of the Next Global Crisis. James,
great to have you, Thanks so much. Thanks all right, team,
We're gonna goroll into a break. When we come back,
I am going to talk to you about a lot
of things, including, uh, there's Shield Time podcast this week,
the First Crusade. It's out today checking out on iTunes.
We'll be right back. It was a pretty crazy weekend

(01:28:26):
in the news cycle. I was deep in my history books.
Actually had a few of my books from one of
my favorite classes in college at Amherst, which was the
First Crusade. So actually took I took an entire semester
on course on the First Crusade. It was some time ago,
but it was an excellent professor. He was Irish and

(01:28:47):
he was from the University of Massachusetts and was just
teaching a class on Amherst campus. But I was all
immersed in that world. I was. I was just rocking
out in the eleventh century slash early twelfth century, as
one does. And I saw the talk to you about
the Hawaii bomb or missile threat warning, which just is

(01:29:10):
baffling that that could happen the way that it did.
And then I saw something else, and I should I
had to assume right away that this is a joke
or no way, But it turns out it's not. Chelsea
Manning is running for office, and it is for the
it's for a Senate seat. And I just think to myself,

(01:29:32):
you know, we've really just as a society, it seems
to me entirely and completely, uh lost some sense of
objectivity when you not when you have somebody who has
no accomplishments or resume to speak of a part from
committing treason against his country. And that is for the

(01:29:56):
Democrat Party, at least some Democrats like Chelsea Manning is
not gonna win. But that is taken seriously as as
a possibility by some within the party, by some people
inside of the American Left. And I just don't know
how that's I was gonna say, know how it's possible.

(01:30:17):
But sure enough, here we are, um running for Senate
in Maryland. This is a This is a little bit
of the news background of this. The transgender uh former
Army officer who was convicted of leaguing classified documents, filed
her statement of candidacy with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday.

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The Washington Post reported Saturday that Manning will challenge Democrat
Ben Cardon. He has served two terms and is an
overwhelming favorite to win. The three year old. Manning list
that a North Bethesda address in her FEC filing. She
is running as a Democrat. Manning was convicted of leaking
classified information and spent more than six years behind bars. Um, okay,

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A few things, a few things here, and that's all.
From some NBC affiliate down in Maryland. Okay, she's not
gonna see I just did it. He's not gonna win.
He's not gonna win. I know, people yell your miss gendering. No,
you can change your name, you can't change your gender.

(01:31:23):
This is a debate now that has turned into Democrats
not just yelling, but trying to use the force of
law against reality, against what is obvious and apparent to
anybody who cares to pay attention, that is that Chelsea
Manning is a male. There's there's there's not a scientific
debate or dispute about this. It is as clear as

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any objective reality can be. And yet here you have
this and be and so many of them. Now I
even see conservatives doing it. And I'm telling you, if
I start doing it, it's only because I'm being threatened
with either like legal action or some kind of HR
sanction from somewhere or someone, because it's just crazy to me.

(01:32:07):
But that's where we're heading. I mean, now, in an
office environment and a workplace, you're gonna have to say
she when it's a he, and he when it's a she.
Why because someone says so? Now, it would be one
thing if, like I said, if this were just about choice,
your name is a choice. If somebody wants to be
called lothar Key, Master of Gozer, which is actually a
pretty badass name, I will call them that if that

(01:32:31):
is in fact their name, right, I mean, I think
you have to. But you know, then again, if it's
not on your driver's license or or your passport or something.
If you're just changing your name every five minutes, you know,
at some point you can also say to somebody, what's
your real name? Right? But you can change your name.
You're allowed to decide this is what I would this
is what I would like to be called. But you

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can't change your gender. And forcing people to recognize an
unreality or a falsehood is a very dangerous game for
society to play, and it's getting crazier and crazier. I
remember five or six years ago, if you said that
Democrats would be pushing for boys to be able to

(01:33:13):
use the girls bathroom in high school and vice versa,
based upon gender identity, you would have been called a fearmongerer. Nonsense,
you're just being you're just being a big it, and
you're also I mean, and now here here we are
we're already at the point where that's the case, and
we're supposed to forget that it wasn't long ago at
all that the very people pushing for this were saying

(01:33:34):
that it was crazy and never going to happen. Well,
I guess times changed rather quickly, didn't they. But it
is a matter of time. I think that we will
all be forced. There will be an effort two eliminate
people from the public sphere who refused to play this
preposterous game when it comes to pronouns. But back to

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Chelsea Manning specifically formerly known as Bradley Manning. You know
that's called when you refer to a transgender person's a
previous name that is tied to their previously identified self
identified gender. They call that dead naming, and it's a
terrible insult. Do you think why is it such an insult?

(01:34:16):
Right If somebody says says, you know, Buck, your name
is actually James, and I say, well, Buck is part
of my middle name, and it's been my name son
as a kid. But saying that my first name is
James is not an insult. It's just just true. Saying
that somebody's name was something else is not an insult.
You can say it's dead naming, but the problem that
they have with it is just that it points out
how absurd the whole situation is that, you know, they

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don't want any reminders of what has happened here. Someone
has decided, oh I'm actually you know, my name isn't Bob,
my name is Susie and I'm a woman. Okay, why
how when did that happen? And we're supposed to celebrate
this too. Look, people can do whatever they want. Somebody
wants to go around where addressed, you know or not?
Or what people can dress how want. They can do
what they want. You know, do your thing, you do

(01:35:03):
you I get all that, but to force me to
be complicit in a delusion is wrong. And Chelsea Manning
is still celebrated by some on the left for what
I have. Well, I have some idea. They think that
those leaks were exposing war crimes, and I was going

(01:35:23):
to say to them, really, what what war crimes were
exposed by the leaks? Exactly that mistakes happen in war,
that Chelsea Manning formerly Bradley Manning could embarrassed people who
are actually fighting the war out there. It's just it
enrages me. But I'll tell you this, Chelsea Manning is
gonna get some votes, not a lot, but there will

(01:35:45):
be people who vote for Chelsea Manning. Make no mistake
about it. Obama commuted this guy's sentence. All right, We're
going to get into uh much more coming up here,
and stay with me the battles of the past to

(01:36:08):
find the president. This is Shields High. Gather around, friends,
for I have a story to tell. A thousand years ago,
a military force assembled in Europe and rallied under the
banner of the Cross. This Christian army believed no less

(01:36:31):
than their eternal salvation was at stake the team. That's
the beginning of this week's episode of Shields High. We
have gone from the Battle of Tour, the victory of
Charles Martel the Hammer over the Franks, to the First Crusade.
I think you will really enjoy this episode. It gets

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into a bit more of the context of the First
Crusade that I think you'll hear almost anywhere else. I'm
always amazed at how incorrect so much of the historical
analysis is of the Crusades that's out there, that the
conventional wisdom is largely nonsense. But first please do download

(01:37:16):
the Shields High Podcast. It is available on the iTunes app.
We are on episode two this week. We're having episodes
coming out each Monday for the foreseeable future. Next week
is gonna be the Fall of Constantinople, which is big,
gonna be awesome. You're gonna definitely gonna want to hear
that episode. And then after that we get into some

(01:37:37):
of our favorites like Malta and Vienna and La Panto,
et cetera. It's gonna be really really interesting stuff. I'm
all excited about it. I've been telling everybody that the
Shields High Podcast is kind of like my version for
those of you who have seen the movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall,
this is my Dracula opera. In that movie, the guy

(01:38:01):
who is he is broken up with by his celebrity girlfriend.
He's really bummed out and his passion project. He's a musician,
but his passion project is a Dracula puppet opera and
he just really wants to do it. Well, this is
my Dracula opera. The the I can't and if I
see Van Helsing, I'll slay him. Ha ha ha. I mean,

(01:38:24):
you've got to see the movie to understand. It sounds
like I'm having some kind of an uh A breakdown here,
but I'm actually just quoting from the movie forgetting Sarah Marshall.
But do please check out the podcast. I know a
lot of you are listening to show live on radio,
like why podcast? Come on? It's fun. You can listen
to it whenever you want, and you can share it
with friends, and it stays good for a while or

(01:38:45):
well forever actually, And it's also something where there's information,
so it's not just somebody roll look a construit totion,
not America and everything that's falling apart and rah bah
blah blah. You know, you listen to the Shield High podcast,
you learned some cool stuff. One of the things that
I wanted to get across with the First Crusades, Well,
first of all, with the First Crusade, they teach kids

(01:39:09):
in school that the Crusades were just these these barbarians
that wanted to destroy this wonderful, peaceful Muslim civilization that
you know, had just been chilling in Palestine and the
surrounding areas for you know, for for as long as
anybody could remember. But the truth is that these were
all Christian lands we're talking about here, and that will

(01:39:31):
come across on the podcast. What is now Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan's, Egypt,
all of the above of course Israel. Uh. These were
areas under Christian control and before that areas under the
control of the Roman Empire. And when I say Christian control,

(01:39:53):
it was predominantly the Eastern Byzantine Christian Empire that was
running the show and these areas. But then the Muslim
onslaught came. But there's notion that the Crusades were offensive
and that jihad is defensive, right, it only happens to
defend people. That's complete and utter garbage. And they teach

(01:40:14):
kids this all the time, and there are academics. I'm
sure I'd go on TV and oh no, tree hards.
They'll have to tell me it's internal struggling, yeah, or
they'll tell me that it is only defensive, not true.
But also other than the fact that you have the
Crusades not coming out of some vacuum, but actually has

(01:40:36):
a response to repeated efforts by the Islamic forces to
try and conquer more and more of Europe. Remember Charles Martel.
They came up through Spain, all the way into really
the center of France and had to be turned back.
And the only thing that kept them from a full
scale invasion through the east was Constantinople, right the the

(01:41:01):
massive city, the fortress of Constantinople, that was the bulwark
of Christianity. And so when it became clear that it
was threatened and that the surrounding territory had fallen into
the hands of the various well various caliphates, notably the
selgiant Turks in the eleventh century, that's when they had

(01:41:23):
to reach out for help to the Christians and all
this I get into some detail about in in the podcast,
but it's also why we have to talk coming up
about the fall of Constantinople, and that will be a
history deep dive next Monday, and I think you'll definitely
want to That will be the first time we haven't
talked about that one before on the show, so I'm
looking forward to it. And then I think after that

(01:41:44):
we're going to do an official Shields high on Malta,
and then yeah, I got a whole lot more planned.
So there's that also, just the notion that the crusade
was such a long shot that you would send at
this period in time we're talking about now, the Council

(01:42:05):
of Claremont, they get into Asia, minor contents, the noble,
but that you would be able to get a force
of roughly fifty thousand and move them over land all
the way into hostile territory and deep in into Islamic
controlled land, and that they could win. He's astonishing, really.

(01:42:29):
I this is a period in time when most warfare
was conducted based upon grarian schedules. That the harvest season,
so you couldn't raise, you couldn't levy, and you couldn't
raise a force and use it for more than a
certain period of time because people would starve. They have
to get back to their families, to their farms. So
you had a campaign season that was in no way

(01:42:53):
flexible really. I mean you could try if you were
going to insist on keeping your army in the field,
but they would they would dessert, they would mutiny. It
was just not they were They were not professional armies
year round at the time. And you had a lot
of conscripts, people using very basic weapons without much, if

(01:43:16):
anything in the way of training, so that they marched
from different parts of Europe, but marched from Europe all
the way across eastern Europe, the Straits or the the
Dardan else right the crossing point the Bossphorus where Constantinople is,

(01:43:37):
and then into Asia Minor. It's just an incredible story
and incredible journey, and that they won numerous battles when really,
if you look, and you'll get this from this show,
they should have been annihilated. I don't mean they should have.
Isn't that would have been the right thing. But I'm
saying they were outmatched and outnumbered numerous times, and it

(01:43:57):
was certainly quite a bit of luck and just sheer
will and determination that let them take Jerusalem. So I
think you really enjoy this week's episode of Shields Ye,
and also those of you who have been sharing it
with friends and family. I can't thank you enough. We
did tens of thousands of downloads of the first episode.

(01:44:17):
I can tell you that. Um, I don't want to
give you an exact number yet because it's still it's
still happening, but we we are doing very well on
that podcast because of all of you. So those of
you have and listened, please do, and those of you
who are passing around the word, I really do. Thank
you for that. It means a lot. And I spent
my whole weekend working on this thing. I mean, this
is all I did. It's and it's only about thirty

(01:44:39):
forty minutes long. But to script it and audio edit
it and just do this properly, do the research is
It's a labor love like I said, so please do
Shields hie on iTunes, also on the I Heart app.
You can subscribe on iTunes and uh new episode out
today and another one coming up next week. We're back
with some Team buck roll call. Stay right there, Welcome back, everybody.

(01:45:04):
It's time for some team buck roll call. Love getting
to hear from all of you. Went through as many
messages as I could. I think I'm almost caught up
in the inbox on Facebook for like the last week
or so. So that's that's good. That's uh, what happened
to you? Spend the whole weekend Ms Molly's in Hawaii.

(01:45:25):
Uh fortunately there's no actual ballistic missile issue, but seas
in Hawaii, So that means this past weekend I just
got to well study and eat a lot. So that
was what I did. I had that going for me,
which is nice. But I also got a chance to
catch up in your messages. If you want to send
me your thoughts, you can at Facebook dot com slash

(01:45:47):
Buck Sexton or also official Team Buck at gmail dot com.
So with all that, let's get into it, shall we.
Let's see we let's see what we got. First one
up this week in Team Buck roll call on at Nazio.
He writes, Hey, man, saw you on Fox News Channels.

(01:46:10):
Greetings from Spain. God bless America. Well at Nazio. Uh
comyta and uh that's about as much spanished as I speak.
I hope you're doing well. Thank you for the Coli message.
Nice that we've got some Team Buck Spain in effect.
This week we got Gregg up next. Buck. It's really

(01:46:31):
great seeing you on Fox from time to time. I
was actually on twice today. Um retiring on February. Brother,
if I get up to the city, do you have
a moment to get a beer? Rangers lead the way,
shields high. Well, Greg, I will respond here. I may
not be in the city that week, but I will
let you know, and maybe you can have your swing

(01:46:52):
by the hut and meet everybody here. But I will
have the team respond a set, all right, and thank
you for your service, sir. Next up this week, we
are this week. I keep saying this week today. Pardon me.
I know it's Martin Luther King Day. It's a holiday,
and I am not not always registering that because I

(01:47:13):
have to be at work. A j with the following.
Your show is the best I'm listening since before the
American Now broadcast when I find you. I found you
after you subbed in for Rush Limbaugh. I listened by
podcast and it gets me through my daily workout. Um.
I sometimes struggle with the volume levels during the show.
Thanks and Shields High a J. It's weird with podcast

(01:47:35):
volume stuff. A lot of people in the past have
told me they've had an issue with with that, but
I we look at it here. I have the tech
team check it out, and it is, uh how do
always say it? Uh? Individual based. It depends on someone's
gear and what they've got going on, so it's a
little bit different there. Um. But I will take a

(01:47:57):
look again because I always do. Dust In, hey Buck,
I just finished the first episode of Shields High, and
I loved it. I can't wait to share it with
my son once he's older. I hope it will inspire
him to search out and understand the truth of history
for himself as he gets older. Well dust it. Thank
you very much for your kind note. Uh. We've also

(01:48:19):
got one in here from Adam, who writes, Crisper could
cure everything in response to your rant on infections. Adam,
I don't know what that means, but I will look
into it. I'm not familiar. I'm not familiar with Crisper.
I'll have to look at it and thank you for

(01:48:40):
bringing it to my attention. All right, we have Lauren
who writes in oh wow, this is uh, this is
a long one, Buck. I just listen to history podcast
and actually liked it, which is saying something because I've
never been interested in history, so thank you for peaking
my interest. I also have a random question about the
Harry Potter's storyline. Have you read all the books or

(01:49:02):
seen all the movies. I was really confused to find
out that the author is a progressive, because when I
read the books, I thought for sure the author must
be a conservative. I saw so many parallels in the storyline.
I saw the main characters and Dumbledore to be the
conservatives who are willing to acknowledge that evils exist, call
it by name, and fight back against it. I saw

(01:49:22):
the Ministry of Magic as the leftist bureaucracy who pretend
evil doesn't exist, don't want to give students the tools
to fight it, want them to be in effect unarmed,
and I saw members in that bureaucracy as full blown
to talitarians. Wow, this is some like next level Harry
Potter analysis here, folks. So I was curious if I'm
the only one who saw this angle of the books,

(01:49:43):
would be interested to hear your take on it if
you have time to get through this series. Well, Lauren,
thank you for your very kind note. I have never
read a Harry Potter book, and I have I think
I think in college a uh a date made me
go to a Harry Potter movie once. I do not
really remember it. I mean, I'm obviously familiar with Harry Potter,

(01:50:04):
but I haven't. I don't think I've ever sat through
an entire episode, or not episode, an entire film with
Harry Potter as the subject matter. So I can't give
you any good analysis on that. But you did get
it read on air for a national coast to coast
radio audience, So that's that's kind of cool. You know
what I mean. Uh, let's see what else we got here. Uh.

(01:50:28):
Friendly OSS message for your team, buck your bumpers, This
from Jim are coming in hot. I just thought you
guys would want some professional technical insight to your brilliant show.
Great job, Okay, Jim, we'll check out the bumpers. I
don't know. I don't need I that's a little bit
beyond my my skill set here in terms of what
we do technically. Um Corny writes in with the following book,

(01:50:52):
I've quickly become a huge fan and listened to your
podcast daily on my commute to work. Your show was
the best thing I got out of my LA relationship.
But I digress. I work in healthcare, and I've seen
firsthand the gradual decline in the health care system since
I graduated in two thousand and eight. Often those with
the best health care benefits are those who have barely

(01:51:13):
ever contributed to society. They are also often the most
non compliant. For example, I had a patient with luring
luringual cancer uh and at tracheost to me who was
smoking through his stoma four to five times a day
while his insurance company was paying for expensive chemotherapy and
radiation treatments. It just doesn't make sense. I'd love to

(01:51:35):
hear more on your take regarding the healthcare healthcare and
how we can better improve the system. Socialized healthcare is
not the answer, and it truly scares me that anyone
could think that's a viable solution. Thanks Courtney. Uh well, Courty.
First of all, I'm so glad you enjoy the podcast,
and then I get to keep you company on your
way to work on your commute, So I am honored.
And healthcare is gonna be as it always is, a

(01:51:57):
big topic of political debate and discussion, and I'd love
to see the GEOP actually do something this year that's
worthwhile on healthcare. I I'm a little disappointed at what
we've seen so far from this Goop Congress, obviously on
healthcare and repeal in the place of Obamacare. The reality
is that we have to to get to where we

(01:52:19):
want to be as conservatives with healthcare, we would have
to do things that would be seen by many as
radical because right now, having any actual let's get in
the game, so to speak, to care where your dollars go,
those are all differences, Those are all Uh that's not
the case with our current healthcare system. Our system right

(01:52:41):
now is based on healthcare is kind of a right.
How much healthcare is a political decision and somebody else
will always pay for it. It's just not the way
that it is supposed to be. And that's why I
think we have a lot of folks with very frustrating,
very frustrating circumstances. And it's also a situation where or
it's also the only industry I can think of where

(01:53:03):
you don't know what the price is. The price changes
all the time, and price sensitivity is not a part
of the health care purchasing process. So I got a
lot of thoughts on healthcare, but they'll be uh coming
out in bits and pieces throughout the year as we
follow it in the news cycle. So tomorrow I'll try
to get some of the team buck emails going here,

(01:53:25):
so that will be coming up for us next or
tomorrow at least. And UH, thank you again for all
the kind words about the History show. I'm gonna keep
it going. As long as you keep listening passing it around,
we'll we'll keep it going. So thank you for that. Uh,
have a very happy and RESTful rest of your Martin
Luther King Holiday and tomorrow. I'm sure it's gonna be

(01:53:50):
very interesting with the possibility of that government shutdown in
a few days. Lots of stuff that, lots of stuff
to chat about, so do check out all the latest
on iTunes for the show and Shields High and until tomorrow,
Shields High