Collusion Delusion

No Collision, so now obstruction, what's next? Green New Deal nonsense continues. Buck interviews Ana Rosa Quintana.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You are entering the freedom hunt from collusion to obstruction.
The Democrats are moving on now that the Muller probe
isn't going to give them the end of the Trump
presidency that they have been promising themselves. Will dig into
how this dishonesty on the left will unfold, plus all

(00:31):
of the latest from the Green New Deal. The nonsense continues,
and what does Rent Control teach us about why the
left is always wrong on economics? That and more coming up.
This is the buck Sexton Show, where the mission or
mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence.
Make no mistake American, You're a great American Again The

(00:54):
Buck Sexton Show begins the set. Do you think the
President of structed justice? Yes? I do. If it's very
clear that the President instructed justice. It's very clear. Eleven
hundred times he referred to them investigation as a witch hunt.

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He tried to he fired, he tried to protect the
Flynn from being investigated by the by the FBI. He
fired Comy in order to stop the Russian thing. As
he told NBC News, he's intimidated witnesses in public. If
that's the case, then is the decision not to pursue
impeachment right now, simply political if you believe he obstructed justice.

(01:38):
No publicans spent two years shielding the president from any
proper accountability. It's our job to protect the rule of law,
that's our core function. And to do that, we are
going to initiate investigations into abuses of power, into a
corruption of justice, into a corruption and into construction of justice.

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Let me tell you something, the real obstruction is the
Democrats who are obstructing this presidency. Welcome to the buck
sex and show everybody. I mean, I know we start
off with that the Nadler over in Congress, but we're
already there, folks, We're already there. They know that Muller
doesn't have them, doesn't have collusion. They know it. They

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know it. And so now all of the obvious, dishonest
and ridiculous walk backs, changing the subject, smoke screens, all
this stuff. They're all going to try to evade any
account of accountability. On the media side and on the
political side, they're just going to march on to the

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next thing. Oh, it wasn't really Russia collusion we were
worried about. It was Trump's finances. We were worried about
all this time. It was the collusion of the deals
that he did back in the eighties or something. These
people have no honor. You have to remember, they have
no honor, They have no integrity. They just view this

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as a street fight and whatever they have to do
to when they will. There's so much going on here, folks.
There's so much that you're going to see in the
next few weeks. Assuming the Muller probe ends as is
expected this month, that much we can say. It's supposed
to end this month, according to all the reporting I've
heard from sources in DC that would know that it

(03:29):
is going to end soon, and that there'll be a
report that's given to the Attorney General bar and he
will then be able to make a determination about what
will happen with that report. So we know that it's
supposed to kind out. They could reopen stuff, and you know,
until it's done. Yeah, yeah, it ain't over until the
fat Lady sings. Fine, but the Left has to prepare

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the ground too. They can't just wait for the inevitable
disappointment among their friend ze partisans about this collusion situation.
That there is no collusion, that Trump has been right
all along, and I working through this problem together for
two years. Have not been wrong one time on a

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matter involving Russia collusion. Not once. Not one time I
had to say, oh, you know that thing, uh that
I thought was true about collusion, Guys, I I got
that one wrong, you know, not once. How many times
have different pundits, analyst, newspapers, you name it said, oh,
you know, Don Junior is gonna go to prison any

(04:37):
day now. Oh, it's just a matter of time before
the other shoe drops, you know, Oh, there's there's they've
got him on the Trump Tower thing, they're gonna press charted,
you know, whatever it is. How many times have we
been told this wrong? Wrong, wrong, wrong all along? That's
what the Democrats have been, That's what their little media
lackeys have been. I'm usually somebody who takes the position

(05:05):
that being wrong, that having bad judgment on a matter
of politics, is something that we should leave open to. Okay,
maybe somebody made a mistake, you know, so that we
should leave the door open, and people saying I was wrong,
I admit it, and you move on from there. But

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in this case, given the depth and breadth of the
effort to destroy this presidency with an obviously phony narrative,
with a phony dossier paid for by the Hillary Clinton
d NC. Given all the factors that we've seen here
and the viciousness with which they have gone after people

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in Trump's orbit, defamed people that tried to, like me,
stand up for the president on this one, I'm sorry.
I can't let all of that pass. And so the outlets,
places like CNN that have been responsible for spreading this
garbage all this time, they should have to pay a price.

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And the price is that we don't ever take them
seriously again. They should be considered unsious news organizations, partisan, biased, dishonest.
And if you think that that's excessive at this point,
here's a little vignette. Know, CNN has this whole crew

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of national security experts. They call them Apparently if you
work in the federal government and you are an employee
of certain agencies, even if you have no particular knowledge
or judgment or expertise, they can call you an expert.
But a lawyer named Vinagrad was on CNN and this
is the kind of stuff I mean, This is a

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perfect example of what we've been hearing. Major networks, major newspapers,
saying and writing about the president for two years on
this Russia clusia nonsense. This is an example of what
I'm talking about, playclib one. His statement makes me sick
on a personal level. Preserving our heritage, reclaiming our heritage.

(07:13):
That sounds a lot like a certain leader that killed
members of my family in about six million other Jews
in the nineteen forties. This whole sea pack speech. How
many pieces parts of President Putin's to do list was
President Trump trying to accomplish today? He denigrated our institution,
the Department of Justice, and the US Congress. He spread
misinformation and conspiracy theories. He undermined the credibility of several

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of our institutions. He's sowed divisions, He's sowed confusion. He
was speaking to his base, but he was also saying
things that really look like Vladimir Putin scripted his speech.
That's a national security expert at CNN, folks, that's what
they call her. I mean, she's actually an idiot, but
a national security expert. Comparing Trump to I mean, she

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is the trifecta. Trump is basically Hitler who killed six
million Jews in the Holocaust, doing everything Putin wants him
to do. Looks like Putin scripted his speech and undermined institutions.
I mean, she's hitting all the usual bs, collusion talking points,

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making a fool of herself, and also on her point
that Trump mentioning heritage, you know, reminds her of somebody
else who talked about heritage. Hitler. Here's somebody that talked
about heritage in a public speech. Play clip two. It's
time to stand up, it's time to fight back, it's
time to reclaim our heritage, and it's time and we

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are ready. We are looking for this fight. The future
of our country depends on it. Oh my gosh, Joe
Biden said he wants to reclaim our heritage. She's like,
he's like Hitler. I don't call people idiots lightly. I mean,
I think that there are people that that really do
need they do need to be put in check, that

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they do need to be called out because what they're
doing is destructive and they're making fools of themselves. There
are people on the left that I have respect for,
at least on an intellectual level and on a personal level.
There are there are plenty of leftists that I like
and think are smart. I think they're wrong, but I
can I can deal with that. The people at CNN
puts on air are dishonest, imbeciles to talk about this issue.

(09:27):
Dishonest imbeciles. I've put out a request on Twitter and
getting a bit of attention. I've said, who wants to
debate Russia collusion with me? Find me a Find me
a leftist of some with some following and stature. Right,
it can't be some guy and some you know, living
in grandma's basement somewhere. But find me a leftist who's
on TV or who has a platform, who has been

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talking about Russia collusion along. Who wants to debate what's
really happened here and what's the remarkables. I had some
some professor from the University of who gives a crap
APU decided that who wrote a book called proof of Collusion?
And he's like, I'm not even I can't debate you
on this because to debate your position that the Russia

(10:13):
collusion is a hoax is like is like talking to
an anti vaxer or a you know, I think, or
a flat earther. Okay, so Mueller isn't going to prove collusion.
They know it that's why they're all worried. And by
the way, if Mueller was going to prove collusion, trust me,
they'd be prepping with CNN and the stories and they'd
all be they're trying to walk away from this thing

(10:35):
as quietly as they can in the media. But Mueller
can't prove collusion. But this random third tier professor, he's
already proven collusion, you see. And if you disagree with them,
you're a flat earth. This is going to be the
way that they treat this because they can't handle it.
The the recognition that these people who all think they're

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so smart, Oh, all these oh how could you not
understand that Trump worked with Russia in some plot to
steal the emails and that this turned the election? And
these people are insane. But they think they're so smart
and they understand that unless they do a lot of
you know, figuring out how to how to you know,

(11:19):
bob and weave here and there, move here, move there,
change the narrative, move on to obstruction, you see, that's
what they're going to do. Unless they do that, there
might be a reckoning. People might actually say, why did
you get this so wrong? Person who thinks that he
or she is actually a genius, when in reality they're

(11:39):
not very bright. They're probably middle to middle to uh,
you know, bottom third of the intellectual pack of America.
Like what, why did you get this one so wrong?
How could you have been so wrong all along? They
need to avoid that because there are people who's in time,
they're they're the credible of their careers hang in the balance,

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and there's just the beginning of some recognition here that
that's what's going on. So what are they going to do.
They're going to say that Trump obstructed justice and just
shift the investigation and engage in lawfare. Today they sent
out what was it eighty seven different people getting requests
for documents from the House Judiciary Committee, which the Democrats

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now run. I mean, they're just they're going to drown
people in paperwork. They're going to ruin people with legal bills.
This is what the Democrat and they're going to call
it oversight and use a lot of flowery words about
all respecting our constitution because people are a nightmare or
these Democrats are despicable. They should if they were honest people,

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they'd say, wow, maybe maybe you know, sure, we can
oppose Trump on policy maybe this whole rush of thing.
Maybe we were wrong on this one, maybe we did
get ahead of the facts. It's we're thinking, oh no, no, no, no, no,
that's not what they want to do. That's not where
they want to go with this. They're gonna say that
it's obstruction. You see. I mean we started the show

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listening to Nadler, who was not an impressive guy, but
he's a political fighter. He's gonna try to you know,
he's gonna try to score some hits on the President
and his people. For sure. Nadler is saying that obstruction
is the President calling this a witch hunt. So I
just want I just now want to be clear. They
think if you take someone like Nadler at his word,
the Democrats should be able to run a wildly partisan, destructive,

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out of control, unconstitutional, not founded in any actual crime,
special counsel. And the President of the United States, who
is the target of this ridiculous fraud, the target of
this hoax. The President is supposed to be silent, you
see while this is happening, can't say anything about this

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investing Asian because that's obstruction. He's the commander in chief,
he's supposed to just sit there quietly and take it.
If you listen to now they're the answers. Yes, these
people are absolutely off their rockers nuts. And now because
of enough, Oh Trump is so mean and he's terrible.

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You know, enough people voted. You know, oh Trump is
so racist and sexist and all these the Democrats have
control in the House. You know, the media is a
very powerful tool and managed to convince enough people foolishly
to give the Democrats power. Look what the Democrats are
doing with just a taste of power. A bunch of
radical socialist lunatics. And now they're weaponizing the government apparatus

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against the President of the United States while he's in
office under the flimsiest of pretexts. After doing this for
two years on Russia collusion, when they got nothing, I
have not yet begun to fight today, my friends, I've
got much more for you. Stay with me. The effective
impeachment is to overturn the popular will of the voters.

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We must not overturn an election and remove a president
from office except to defend our system of government or
our constitutional liberties against the dire threat, and we must
not do so without an overwhelming consensus of the American people.
There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment, or an
impeachment supported by one of our major political parties and

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opposed by the other. Such an impeachment will produce the
divisiveness and bitterness in our politics for years to come,
and we'll call into question the very legitimacy of our
political institutions. You may have the votes, you may have
the muscle, but you do not have the legitimacy of
a national consensus or of a constitutional imperative. This partisan

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coup deta will go down in infamy in the history
of this nation. Wow, Nadler really opposed to impeaching president
for oh oh, that was Jerry Nadler in nineteen ninety
eight when Bill Clinton was on the hot seat. So

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I just want to know what change between nineteen ninety
eight when impeachment should not be a partisan tool to
overturned the popular will of the voters, and now when
we know that they're going to try to slow build
up to impeachment. They're essentially going to put Trump's administration

(16:29):
through the meat grinder or see what comes out the
other side, and then decide then decide if they're going
to go full force on impeachment. But this is all
supposed to be a constant testing of the water. They're
gonna slowly turn up the heat. Turn up the heat,
see what they're doing. That's going to be the plan.
I do think by the way they end up impeaching
the president, I think that that's where we're heading. There.

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Absolutely unhinged base is going to demand it. There's no
way around it. There's not some reasonable Democrat party that
all of a sudden is going to come forward. And
that's why I think it's it's important we all know
that this is what we're up against. Folks. They're gonna lie,
They're gonna do whatever they have to do in order

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to destroy this president and to ruin him and impeachment,
even if it is counterproductive for Democrats, They're willing to
do it because they want to. I really believe that
as well. Usually politicians, they're they're only real interest is
self interest, as we just see most of the time.
But with these Democrats right now, I think a lot

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of them have taken on hatred for President Trump. They
really really do hate him. Fortunately we have Trump around
who will fight back in this whole process. I like
this one shifty shift. I'd never heard this before. This
was at spac Place seventeen. These people are sick. I

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saw a little shifty shift yesterday. Now it's the first
time he went into a meeting and he said, we're
going to look into his finance. I said, where did
that come from? He always talked about Russia, collusion with Russia,
the collusion delusion. The collusion delusion is real, folks. It's

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not going away either. More for you on where the
Democrats are going to take this in the waning days
of the Muller Paluza. Oh no, you mean Saint Muller
is not going to give the Democrats the end of
the Trump presidency. How will they ever handle it? Unfortunately,
they've got plans. I'll tell you what they are on
the other side of the break. So now we're waiting

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for a report and we'll find out whether or not
and who we're dealing with. We're waiting for a report
by people that weren't elected, and now we have people
that lost. And unfortunately, you put the wrong people in
a couple of positions, and they leave people for a
long time that shouldn't be there, and all of a

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sudden they're trying to take you out with both. Okay,
the notion that we're talking about, the notion that there's
no evidence is just factually wrong. Just in the public domain,
there are literally reams and realms of evidence of Russian
outreach the Trump officials, and clear interest from Trump officials,

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including the president's own son, welcoming the opportunity to get
dirt on Hillary. Circumstantial evidence, as opposed to direct evidence,
is what you go back and forth on that. I
think one of the things, and I don't claim to
be a legal expert by any means, but folks who
I've talked to have been in the prosecutorial business, have said,
you know, when you're looking at conspiracies, it is almost

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always based upon a pattern of circumstantial evidence. Bracy, Okay,
these people are absolutely out of their minds, and it's
because their reputations hanging the balance, and they know that
their power is at risk here because if nobody believes
them anymore, how are they going to stay in power?

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How are they going to be important? That was Senator
Mark Warner obviously falling up after Trump is just like
these people are just completely full of it, and Trump
is right. But Senator Mark Warner. There, this is a
novel approach. Oh, collusion has already been proven. What there's
already proof of collusion where I'm sorry, taking a meeting

(20:35):
with a Russian person who says that she has she
has information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton? You
think that's collusion? I need to understand that, because, by
the way, if that's collusion, then what has the mother
probe been doing all this time? No information was exchanged

(20:57):
at this meeting. Let's change the character a little bit here,
So you're gonna tell me that if the Hillary Clinton
campaign had a oh, I don't know, a British guy
approached them, who remember that's a foreigner. I know. Oh,
Russia is supposed to scare us so much, Brits or
foreigners too. British guy approached them and he's like, hey,
you know, I'm an investigative journalist and uh, I've got

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some incredible information on Donald Trump that's gonna sink his candidacy.
Are they they they're gonna not take that meeting if
they have some you know, basically, or you know, no
one's gonna take that meeting in the Hillary Clinton campaign
or do they think we're all morons? I guess they do.
They're wrong, but they must believe this because I mean,

(21:41):
this is pathetic. We're back to the Trump Tower meeting
where no information was exchanged and nothing happened. And when
you look also at the connections that vezel Nitskaya, this
Russian woman has, you know, you know her background, it
looks like a setup. The whole thing looks like a setup.
She's gonna show up to this meeting. I set up
against the Trump campaign. You're gonna set up in this sitting.

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This meeting doesn't have any information on Hillary, and I'm
going to claim she also wanted to talk about the
Magnitsky Act. I think Fusion, GPS or Perkins Koe and
one of them was, I forget what it is. You know,
it's tough to keep all this stuff straight. They were
involved in trying to get lobby I think it was
Perkins Koe. They're trying to get rid of the Magnitsky Act.

(22:22):
I forget some one of them was. But there's some
shady stuff and in her you know that that goes
to her motivations for this meeting. But that's the collusion. Well,
here's here's a surprise for Mark Warner. I don't give
a crap about that meeting. I don't think it was
I mean it might have been unwise to take under
the circumstances, because there was nothing that happened, and it
opened them up to all this lunacy. But nothing happened,

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and who cares. And under the circumstances, I can understand
why somebody would have taken the meeting. They keep saying, oh,
Vesilandskaya with ties to Russia. Everybody has ties to Russian intelligence.
Everybody in Russia has an uncle named Yuri, that knows
somebody that knows somebody who's in the f s B.
You know, I mean this ties to Russian intelligence. They

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didn't sit down and have a meeting with the Russian
ambassador for opposition information. And I think it's fair to
ask that's not criminal either. So what exactly someone needs
to explain to me? Mark Warner. See, then, never debate
this stuff in the open, And that's why this has
been so damaging the credibility of the media. None of
these people ever subject themselves to opposing points of view,

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none of them will ever allow themselves to be cross
examined on this stuff. So so Mark Warner Senator Mark
Warner Virginia explained to me, this riddle me. This chief
taking a meeting with a Russian to find out if
there's opposition information about Hillary Clinton or her campaign. That
is a horrible, unpardonable sin. But paying through a cutout, officially,

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your campaign paying through a cutout a foreigner, Christopher Steele,
to use foreign swords Russians, to compile a completely BS
dossier that you then, using Democrat allies in the government apparatus,
launder through the intelligence community to get FISA warrants, started

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to spy on the campaign and Americans who had done
nothing wrong. You think that's not a problem. I mean,
do you think he has an answer? Oh, but you
know Bud, you know Brennan and and Comy, and these
are the great amer No, they're not. These people are clowns.
They are partisans. They were drunk with their own power.

(24:40):
They thought they were this special pratorian guard for the
federal bureaucracy here in DC, and they got caught with
their hands in the cookie jar, and their reputations have
taken the hit that they deserve. They should be thought
of as the partisan hacks that they are. Comy McCabe,

(25:01):
struck page, Brannan Clapper, go down the list, all of them, Yates,
all of them. Oh, but they were in senior government positions.
Like that's supposed to mean something to me. I don't care.
Having a senior government position doesn't mean you're beyond never

(25:24):
my criticism. You're you're beyond prosecution, You're beyond the ethical
boundaries that the rest of us would expect. Of course,
not Eric could. They're they're they're corrupt kings, stretching back
for as far as there have been kings. I mean
this notion that will you know, James Comy was such
an honest fellow, and you know the FISA process. They

(25:45):
would never abuse that. Oh oh okay. See I was
in the CIA when the Libs hated it, and all
I ever heard about was torture and rendition and all
these terrible things. That's all the Libs are talking about,
how terrible, and they they wanted to procute, they wanted
to prosecute some of my colleagues, send them to prison

(26:06):
for fighting the war on terror. Now, you can agree
or disagree with whether or not their tactics are right
or wrong, but let's not pretend that Libs think that
just because you have a senior position in a national
security organization of the government that you can have you know,
made made a big mistake Mark Warner. You know, Mark
Warner was on Meet the Press. So obviously he won't

(26:27):
get any real pushback from from Chuck Todd because they're
all in on this. This has been great. They by
the way, they have monetized this. I think you need
to remember that too. Not only have the Democrats been
using this in order to try to stop Trump's presidency,
because if Trump had been allowed to do what he
wanted to do without this investigation, because this is really cheating.

(26:52):
I mean, this is not this is not political opposition,
this is not making. This is dirty tricks, underhanded stuff.
You know, this is like, yeah, sure we had a vote,
but you know we were burning some of the ballots
that we didn't like. You know that that's not democracy, right,
That's not what's supposed to happen here. So when you

(27:15):
look now at what they've done, they've been able to
slow down this present. They've been able to scare away
a lot of good people from working for the administration
all of us, and many of them have made themselves
richer and more famous in the process. I mean, you know,
Jim Acosta has created a brand of just being a
overly hairsprayed idiot who makes a mockery of himself in

(27:35):
his hashtag resistance moments in front of the the administration because
he's a journal Oh, all these journals. Oh, it's so
scary to be a journalist in America, you know, I mean,
every death is a tragedy, folks. We've been like five
journalists killed on the job in the last thirty years.
Thirty years basically as long as I've been alive, there

(27:56):
have been five journalist killed in America. But oh, my gosh,
Trump is terrify all the journalists. It's so scary to
be a journalist. Now. These people have absolutely no shame,
and they're going to insist on avoiding accountability in every
way that they can, and they're going to move on
to this additional fairy tale of obstruction. Let's think with

(28:18):
us for a moment. I mean, you have congressmen who
are already saying that Trump opposing the investigation of him
and those around him, and saying that he does not
agree with it. Is he supposed to say he does
agree with it. I mean, this is really you know,
we're gonna we're gonna put the witch out in the
middle of the lake. We're gonna tie rocks to her.
If she drowns, then we know that. You know. If

(28:40):
if she drowns, then clearly she's innocent. And if she
doesn't drown, well then she's a witch. And then we'll
have to burn her at the stake. Thanks. Right, What
is Trump's supposed to say? Here, you're right, I've been
guilty all along. You got me? Oh no, he's not guilty.
So that's what he's been telling people. And yet that
alone is you that's some kind of evidence of wrong.

(29:01):
I mean this it has been exhausting, has it? And
now that we're getting now that we're getting close to
not even really the truth, because the truth would be
McCabe federally prosecuted for lying, Comy prosecuted for official misconduct.
I mean, you know, the truth would be Hillary prosecuted. Yeah,

(29:22):
that's right, Hillary prosecuted for violating the Espionage Act over
one hundred times. That's what That's what real justice would
look like. I'm not saying we're going to get justice,
because we know in this country, unfortunately there are two
tiered There's a two tiered justice system, one for Democrats
and one for Republicans. But at least we will be

(29:44):
approaching the end of this collusion nightmare and all the
nonsense around it from the Mullar probe perspective, and the
Democrats are going to act like nothing has happened, nothing changes,
The plan is still the same. That's what they're gonna do.

(30:06):
They're gonna now run additional investigations as though they could
find out between now in election day. What Muller was
a team of Democrat seasoned, vicious prosecutors, by the way,
I mean, these are these are people that did not
give anyone an inch. Nobody got the benefit of the
doubt with these guys. That was a Republican. Where's Tony
Podesta by the way, you know the guy that's tied

(30:28):
to clinton close confidant, John Podesta, guy ran Clinton's campaign.
Remember how he was involved in lobbying overseas same organizations
at Manafort. Do we where's his Faraoh registration charge? I
could go through this all day. General Flynn gets charged
for lying about a non crime. Why shouldn't FBI Acting

(30:50):
director McCabe get charged for lying about misconduct while in office.
Anyone want to try to answer that one for me?
How many times do we have to see this despair?
It's despicable, it's despicable, But they don't plan on changing
anything here. They they are digging in and they are

(31:12):
doubling down, and it's it's it's obviously very very troubling.
But we need to understand that we have to continue
to fight because even when this Muller probe finally comes
to a conclusion, they're not gonna stop. Trey Goudy, by
the way, it said that, you know this is just

(31:33):
all like we all know that, right, it's all politics.
I let's hear from Trey play five. Remember when Natler
and Shift didn't want to interfere with ongoing investigations. Does
anybody remember that they no longer have that concern? So
this is all about twenty twenty and they can ask
for it, but the President's got really smart lawyers, and
I'd be shocked if they produced it. Well, they sent

(31:56):
out to the eighty seven request for Joe. I mean,
they're just gonna They're gonna flood the zone with investigative requests.
They're going to flood the zone with legal bills for
everybody around Trump. These people, it's all just sore loserism
about Hillary in twenty sixteen for a lot of them.
You gotta remember this, and this includes people like Comey too.
They were expecting eight glorious years of being close to

(32:21):
the decrepid part of power that was going to be
the Clinton administration. That's what they thought they were owed.
A lot of people had to pretend that Hillary was likable,
that Hillary wasn't a sociopathic grasper, a greedy, lying, manipulative
you know, they all had to sort of just pretend.

(32:41):
But the point was they were going to get eight
years of Queen Hillary, you know, yeay queen, and they
were going to get all the all the trappings of
power and wealth that came along with it, and then
Trump stole it from them. And they're not going to
let that go because now, who knows the next Democrat
nominee is going to be. Even of twenty twenty works
out for the Democrats, which I don't think it will.

(33:02):
There are a lot of left wing Democrats, or I
should say, pardon me, not, a lot of establishment Democrats
who cannot will not forgive what they feel was stolen
from them, because you see, they're really important people, they're
really powerful. There are kind of people that go on
TV and say collusions already been proven. How do you
not know? Yeah, those people, they're not going to change anything.

(33:27):
We'll be right back. So while he's talking collusion, collusion, collusion,
I think in oversight we should be talking about taxes,
taxi taxes, and his bank accounting, bank accounts, his bank account,
his financial statement, statement statements, because that's where I think,
actually some of the most troubling practices are with direct

(33:49):
relevance to the American people under the scope of oversight.
The good news for us is that aoc there o'cazio
Cortez is too dumb to high the plan, and the
plan is, although it is obvious what the plan is
to be fair, to essentially engage in an IRS style,

(34:11):
all in audit of everything a president has ever done,
all of his personal finances, all of his bank accounts, everything.
Just investigate him and when he was a private individual
doesn't matter. Just investigate everything. Now, what I would want
to point out is that the people that are telling
you and have been telling you for two years now,
oh my gosh, Trump is undermining your institutions. How can

(34:33):
any American have any faith in Congress as an institution
in our government right now as an institution if the
response that we're going to see from elected officials when
they don't agree with someone is to just conduct a
fishing expedition of everything in their life. And now you
might say, Buck, that's what politic be is No, no no, no,

(34:53):
I'm talking about using subpoena power the law. I'm talking
about the use of the force of government to pry
into someone's life. Never mind the you know we've they've
already tried everything. They already tried their October surprise with
the Billy Bush tape and all that they've done, all that,
we've already been through all that. Now it's going to
be seize his records, seize his bank account, seize his taxes,

(35:16):
and we all know those are going to get leaked, right,
we all know it. This is the way the Democrats
play the game. It's dirty. But there you have to remember,
there are zealots. They are radicals. Now the Democrats have
radicalized as a party. And that's why what would stop
normal people from acting in this way won't stop them.

(35:37):
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Gaia or you know, Mother Earth or whatever they pray to.
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the other side, I encourage it. I say, no, no,
I think the New Green Deal or whatever the hell
they call it, the Green New Deal, right, green New Deal,

(37:12):
I encourage it. I think I think it's really something
that they should promote. It is something that we should
laugh at, although we also have to take it seriously.
It is worthy of mockery. But just because you mock
something does not mean that it can't be a problem. Right.

(37:33):
In fact, I think that satire and mockery are very important,
very potent, and necessary political weapons. But I would also
say that, yeah, we need to we need to have foam.
All we talk about the Green New Deal, but we
need to be aware that this could become our reality
much more quickly than I think a lot of folks realize.

(37:55):
Because it is a It is a cult, and I
really mean that. I mean, this is not a normal
people are not normal when they talk about the Green
New Deal. They do not approach this from the perspective
of let's have a rational discussion. It's why don't you
want the earth to survive? And they completely freak out,
and they lie about it a lot. But before I

(38:17):
get to the freak out chorus on the Green New Deal,
we should at least establish that this is where you
see the Democrats embracing socialism really across the board. Every
major Democrat candidate for president right now has signed on
for the Green New Deal, every single one of them.
The Green New Deal is socialism, make no mistake about it.

(38:40):
That is what the Green New Deal is. And Kirsten Jillibrand,
who is a big fake Aphonian, a liar, she can
say as much as he wants about this, Well, she
doesn't really know very much about anything, but she is
now claiming that the Green New Deal is something Republicans
can go for. I mean, I don't know if she's
not smart or delusional or what, but play glibble looven.

(39:01):
So you think there's coming ground on a Green New
Deal in medic You think you can get Republican votes
for that? Yes, modern republicans can. I tell you why,
because I believe it. So the Green New Deal is
three things. These are not new ideas. It is infrastructure,
which is widely bipartisan. More money for mass transit, more
money for electrocrids, more money for rural water supplies, roads, bridges, everything.

(39:22):
The second piece of the Green New Deal is jobs.
It's all about training people to do win solar to
your thermal hydropower, biofuels, and we do that in New York.
I mean, the Green New Deal. If it's going to
involve infrastructure spending that the Green New Deal would be
okay with, is going to be the biggest waste of money,

(39:43):
the biggest boondoggle, the biggest fraud of a public works
project in the history of the planet. Keep in mind
that if we were to really take these people seriously
and do what they want us to do, without a
replacement for for fossil fuels in our economy, which we
do not have, not only would the economy screech to

(40:05):
a halt, you would also have people starving. I mean,
fossil fuels are necessary for the production of food, for
the transport of food. I mean. The level of catastrophe
that we would have to endure to go to a
net zero carbon emission society is astonishing. It's the kind
of thing that only a zealot, that only a radical

(40:28):
could push for. But that's what they're doing, and I
think that it's important that everyone understand what we're up
against here. The Green New Deal is a religion of
the left. These are people who want to inflict themselves. Remember,
it's not religious belief in the sense that this is

(40:49):
their spirituality, that's private, that's personal, that guides their own lives.
In fact, one of the defining characteristics of the Green
New Deal is the hypocrisy of the high priests and
priestesses of it, as we see from o'cazio Cortez and
the New York Post piece on her that says that
you know she's her head quarter is real close to

(41:12):
a subway. It doesn't take the subway. It spends a
lot of money on ubers and flies instead of takes
the train from New York to DC whenever she can.
So you know, she's not talking the talk and walking
the walk. Or maybe she's talking the talk, but she's
not walking the you know what I mean. However, that
foom and wants can't get fooled again, you know what
I'm saying. But this is a this is a left

(41:35):
wing religious belief, and there is no room for heresy.
You will be made to believe too. You will be
made to live under the mandates of these Green New
Deal high priests and priestesses too. That's what makes this
so aggressive and so problematic for all the rest of us.

(41:57):
If you know, it's one thing for like think of
this like vegans, Vegans can be pretty radical. Vegans can
be pretty intense. I'm not saying all the minute. Thirdlier
vegan listening to the show, I'm not necessarily something. You
just think it's healthy, and that's cool. And look, I
got no problem with vegans. People want to eat what
they want to eat. That's fine. You know, I probably

(42:17):
eat too much high fat and cheese and things like
you know, everyone, you know, these are our own personal choices.
But imagine a vegan who came into Oh, you know
who's a vegan, Corey Booker. It's all you need to
know about him, it's all you need to know. Can't
can't trust them, uh guy, guys like, oh, I can't
eat bacon, and I can't can't trust them. But imagine
a vegan that said that you have to live the

(42:39):
same lifestyle that they do. That is kind of like
the Green New Deal people, except they don't want to
live a vegan lifestyle. They just want you to live
a vegan lifestyle. That's right. They want to take this
steak out of your mouth while they're sitting there chomping
on a ribbi right in front of you. No, I'm
not a violent hand, but that might push even the

(43:01):
most even tempered of us to take matters into their
own hands. You take the ribbi out of my mouth
and you eat it in front of me, We're gonna
have problems. But that's imagine the the kind of extremism
and evangelism of a vegan, but they're not going to
actually do it. Only you get to live that lifestyle.

(43:22):
That's what the Green New Deal is. That's how this
is is so different. And if you have any doubts
about whether this is it's fair to call this a
religious belief, remember there there and there's all kinds of
you know, Satanism is a religious belief. You know, the
Thuggy Cult of India was a religious belief. There's a
lot of religious beliefs out there. Right. Just because something's

(43:43):
a religion doesn't mean that we have that's another fallacy.
Just because it's a religion, I have to respect it.
False I do not. I do not have to respect
it just because it's a religion, Because if that were
the case, the Church of the Flying Postafarian or the
Flying spaghetti Strainer or whatever it is, I'd have to
respect that religion too, and I don't. But in case
you had any doubts, you are now seeing an increase

(44:06):
in these movements of people and just seeing more public
commentary from people who are saying that they're so afraid,
they're so afraid of what the future holds because of
climate change of stea, that they won't even have kids
play clip twenty one. Our planet isn't a kind of collapse.

(44:28):
The natural world is collapsing around us, and that's actually
happening right now. And I'm so disappointed by the response
by our authorities to this crisis and so freaked out
by it everything I've read that I've basically last year,

(44:49):
I came to the decision that I couldn't bring a
child into that, and you have come to the same conclusion, Alice, Yeah,
I have. I'm I mean, each day for me is struggle,
I really do. Just I'm so depressed and that has
led to just a fear that I've never felt before.
And my decision for being on birth strike, and mostly

(45:12):
has come from not wanting to pass that fear onto
someone else. If we're in this situation now, you know,
even since my parents had me, we've destroyed sixty percent
of life on this planet. What would that be like
when my child's my age, will there be ten percent left.
That's not just to do with being, you know, a
nature of what life enthusiasts like I am. That's actually

(45:34):
that's dangerous as well. Yeah, it's like I can't bring
kids into the world because you know, climate change and
we're losing all these species, and if we don't have
an ample supply of delve to smell in the natural
habitat in the Simi Valley of California, I just feel like, look,

(45:57):
it's just not worth it anymore. Yeah, so I needed
four thousand brown m and M's or Rosie wouldn't go
on stage that night. I managed to take care of
the target with a can of mace, but the shopkeeper
in her sum was a different story altogether. All right,
I'm sorry, So, but those people are crazy, right, I mean,
they're they're actually nuts. I can't have a baby. I'm

(46:20):
on birthstrike. I've never heard of that before. Birth strike
they're they're on birth strike because of the Green New Deal,
because of how dangerous the world is going to be
going I'm sorry, because of the lack of a Green
New Deal, because of how dangerous the world's gonna because
a climate change. Really, these are adults, folks. These are

(46:41):
people that at least ostensibly can read and write and think.
And not only are they truly some of them, I
mean I do believe that a lot of them. This
is just a political mobilization tool. It's classic Alinsky. Once
you mobilize a people on pollution, then you have them
to mobile lies on corruption, then you have the mobilize

(47:02):
them on racism. You know, once you get people all
riled up about one thing, it's very easy to move
them onto another thing. And so this is essentially a
mobilization tactic. But the Green New Deal is really at
its core for those who are the high priests and priestesses.
I don't think they really, I don't think they're the
true believers. The true believers are those women who are like, yeah,

(47:22):
it's just you know, I just don't want to have
a baby because it's like one degree centigrade. It might
be like one point two degree centigrade in a hundred years,
And what will my child think if it's point two
degree centigrade warmer on a global average based on incredibly
inaccurate data of measuring global temperature. My child just couldn't

(47:46):
handle it, right. And plus he'll be like really old,
like he'll be like a hundred and he'll be very
warm all the time, right, I mean, you know she's
got a point there, right. But the high priests and
priestesses of climate change, they they don't view this really
as saving the planet. They view this as controlling the planet.

(48:08):
The Green New Deal is all about the implementation of
socialism and control. The Green New Deal is not at
its core for the people that are running it, for
the people. It's like the Communist Party, right, think about
the Commnist Party in the Soviet Union. Were there some
true believers you know, was well, Trotzky was, but that's
why they put an ice axe in his head, you know,

(48:29):
lett in him. We're that true believers, yeah, but we're
most of the polite borrow early on really just people
that realize that they were in the power loop and
that they just needed to keep this thing going, to
keep the con going. Yep, that's what the Green New
Deal is. It's really about control. And people would argue
that a lot of religions are about control, and that

(48:50):
that's actually been at the heart of much of a
religious belief for a very long time. And now we're
getting into a deeper theological conversation than I had intended.
But in this case, in this instant, they are emotionalizing
the topic with religious fervor of climate change hist area,
people are convinced they shouldn't have babies. People are convinced
that they should tell ten year olds the world's gonna

(49:12):
end in ten years or twelve years. And if you
by the way SNL, you know I rarely give an
SNL shout out. The Dianne Feinstein clip they did on
SNL is actually pretty funny, so I would recommend you
go check it out. It's on YouTube, just type in
and search for it. But they're terrifying small children. They
are willing to destroy our economy, but they will be

(49:34):
in control, and they know that that is ultimately the
single most important thing them because control is power. Control
is just a form of power. So if you are
a power obsessed lib, the best way to get the
society you want that will be full on socialism without
calling it that. Just get this green new deal in action.

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This is a time, my friends, when fundamental rights, civic virtue,

(51:06):
freedom of the press, the rule of law, truth, facts
and reason are under assault. Hello, did you miss me?
Hillary's back back and as charming as ever. I don't
know what what it's going to take for Hillary to
step out of the public eye. Oh she can't. She

(51:29):
can't help herself. I will say, I'm a little disappointed
because there was a there was a time, and I
said it on the show many times, there was a
time when I really did, I really did believe that
Hillary Clinton was going to run again. And I'm I'm
I will admit when I'm wrong, folks. Hello, I will

(51:51):
admit when I'm wrong. And I think that Hillary is
this time. I think she's probably not running. That's right,
all right, Maybe she's not running. Fine, I might have
gotten I might have gotten this one wrong. Um, I
might have gotten this one wrong. But Hillary is still
gonna be out there. So I don't think that you're

(52:13):
gonna have a Hillary free twenty twenty because she's gonna
she's gonna be a surrogate. She can't help herself. She
has to be near the near the spotlight in some capacity.
Oh wait wait, I I forgot to get to this.
Mazie Herono, I think the dumbest person in the Senate, right,
I give her that. I give her that title. There
are some others that are very close. It's a tough call,

(52:35):
but I think Mazie Herono is in fact the dumb
person in the Senate. She had some thoughts on climate
change too. Play clip nineteen. Can tell me what you
were saying about. Were trying to get rid of air
travel and I said, well, that's gonna make it hard
for Hawaii. But what with a Green New Deal stands
for is the a recognition that climate of change is happening,

(52:58):
not sticking our head in the sand. So it's really
crazy at Trump and all his minions and his ilk
who think that global warming and climate change is not
happening and they'd rather just stick their heads in the sand.
They offer absolutely zero in terms of what they would propose,
So all they can do is lock an attack, And
I think that is a crazy position because they are

(53:18):
denying the science behind climate change. Yeah, we mock and
attack it because it should be mocked, an attack because
it's idiocy. I just want to note that, you know,
Senator Horrono, I think that she really, you know, she's
she really came through here, folks, She really did. Because
if you recall when the Green New Deal was initially

(53:39):
came out, Maizie Horono was the one who got a
little bit of attention for saying, well, if we eliminate
air travel, that will make things hard for Hawaii. Right
she said that, And it was one of these you know,
broken clock right twice a day scenarios where you go,
whoa look at Mazie Heron no smarter than o'cazio Cortez. Right,
she she understands something that apparently a leading luminary of

(54:04):
sorts on the left does not understand. And yeah, but
then but then she decided to walk it back a
little bit. Then she decided sure enough that she had
given a little help to the Republicans by being saying
for a moment by accident, nonetheless, and she just want
us to know, oh no, no, no, sen Senator heronos

(54:26):
in fact a straight up idiot, and she regrets that
moment where she said something accidentally that was insightful or intelligent,
And she would like the left and the Democrats to
know that she is still a full a full law
and imbecile and does not have anything to add to
this discussion worthwhile at all. Opposing the Green New Deal
is not crazy. What's crazy is is, or rather, the

(54:49):
Green New Deal is not crazy, Opposing it is so
so there's so there's that speaking of one thing, you know,
I will miss this back to the Hillary thing for
a moment that we will have the Trumpster going full
on mockery of Hillary, which which would have been great,
but at least we will have the Trumpster mocking Elizabeth Warren,

(55:11):
who's so very very richly deserves it. Play. This was
him at Seapac Play twenty. I should have saved the
Polka hunt this thing for another year because I've destroyed
her political career and now I won't get a chance
to run against her, and I would have loved it.
We gotta you know, I don't want to knock out

(55:33):
all of the good stuff and end up with somebody
that's actually got talent. That would be terr Yeah. I
think you know that the Trumpster's got a point here.
He is single handedly forced Elizabeth Warren, or brought Elizabeth
Warren to just take her political her political chances the
presidency and essentially liked them on fire just because she

(55:55):
was so rattled by Trump messing with her. So it's
one of Trump's magic. It's one of Trump's super ours, folks.
He really gets under libs skin. Let's talk about rent control?
Shall we now? Hold on a second? Don't even think
about skipping past this segment because you're like, oh, buck,
I don't have rent control in my area. I don't

(56:16):
really care. Rent control is becoming a more popular idea.
It's usually associated with New York City, which is why
I know quite a bit about it, including from friends
of mine who have rent control departments. But now we
have whole states, whole states that are thinking about going
rent controlled in terms of housing. And this is one

(56:39):
of these moments where we can really look at what
progressives are proposing and doing. What government intervention does? You know?
This is a rubber meets the road moment for why
conservatives are right and liberals are wrong on an issue
of economics that really affects me's lives, all right, And

(57:01):
that's what that This piece by Mark Hamingway is a
great writer. It's in the Wall Street Journal, Oregon's progressive
politicians want rent control for all. Is really an interesting
read because this is the first time. As I mentioned,
Oregon is going to be the first state to have
statewide rent control. Now what that what that means in
this context is that there can only be a certain

(57:23):
a certain cap on rent, a certain cap on rent
that you can't go above as somebody who is a landlord. Now,
this is in response to rising prices, so see, and
this is this is a perfect think about how this

(57:43):
works in this case and apply to so many other
things that libs do. Right, they see a problem, they
don't think about what's caused the problem, and their immediate
knee jerk reaction is to try and fix the problem
with government mandates, with government intervention, community organizers, agitators, left

(58:06):
wing groups, all this stuff. They all start picketing and
saying it's not fair, we need more housing, it's not fair.
You know. They do all this stuff instead of saying, well,
hold on a second, Why does Portland, for example, have
the highest i'm sorry, the second highest rent increase on

(58:27):
average in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. Why don't have
the second highest of any city in the country after
Seattle why is there's such a housing shortage? Right? This
is basic economics, This is supply and demand. Why does
Portland have a housing shortage? Folks, that's the real question.
This is where the economics should kick in. Now, what

(58:51):
liberals do is they come at this from the other side.
They come at it and they say, well, hold on,
a second, housing is too expensive, So let's just make
howing less expensive. Let's just mandate that you can't charge
as much. And this is not going to make the
problem any better. In fact, this is going to make
it worse, as we all know. But libs never learn

(59:11):
their lessons. Let's take a step back. Why does the
state of Oregon have overall, but in particular Portland, but
why does it have these problems? Well because of policies
instituted by the government quote smart growth policies back in

(59:31):
the nineteen seventies that put urban growth boundaries around cities
in an effort to stop them from having what is
called urban sprawl. So what this means is that they
look at a city and these are city planners, which
by the way, is a form of central planning. They
have these city planners who come together and they say, well,

(59:53):
we don't want the city of such and such to
be any bigger than this, And they draw lines on
the MA and outside of those lines you cannot zone
for certain kinds of development. So, for example, you can't
build outside those lines a tall apartment building that would

(01:00:14):
be cost effective. You could only maybe do you farming communes,
or maybe build a single family home or whatever it is.
But they are intruding on the market because they don't
like urban sprawl. This was just a thing in the
nineteen seventies which a lot of people say, isn't that
just natural growth of a city, But they don't like
urban sprawl. So that led to in Portland in particular,

(01:00:39):
there are being disparities because where you are on the
urban sprawl line could be the difference between, as Hemingway
points out in his piece here, whether your property is
worth one hundred and eighty thousand dollars for an acre
or across the street. Folks, based on where these lines
were drawn across the street sixteen thousand dollars an acre.

(01:01:03):
How could the same neighborhood have such a you know,
as one of them a toxic waste up. No one
of them is a place where you can develop land,
and another one is a place where you can't because
that a one urban sprawl. So this means that developers,
guess what, developers don't want to come in and deal

(01:01:25):
with this. There's also a lot of red tape on
top of it, where you have a lot of expense
that's put on top of building apartments at homes in
a city like Oregon that are just bureaucratic expenses. This
is from this piece. Systems and development charges and permit
fees for even a five hundred square foot unit in

(01:01:46):
the city of Eugene, Oregon are close to about twenty
thousand dollars per unit. That's just all red tape expense.
That's just you know, the city inspectors coming in and
got to this and got to do that, and just
people getting involved in this that are extraneous and in
fact just drive up the prices, just make it harder

(01:02:09):
for people to be able to get housing. Because this
is Affordability is a function of the market. Affordability is
not in fact something that you will achieve with government mandates.
And as I've told you before, and this is I'm
not saying that Portland's going to turn into Venezuela or Eugene, Oregon,

(01:02:30):
or Tacoma, Washington, or any of these places. I'm not
saying that, but price controls were one of the primary
mechanisms instituted in Venezuela to create the descent into a
failed state, economic catastrophe and all the chaos we see.
The price controls in Venezuela were pretty straightforward. There's not

(01:02:51):
enough of X product, let's call it. Let's say microwaves.
There aren't enough microwaves for everybody in Venezuela to go
around right now. So instead of trying to deal with
that through a market incentives what they did, or by
liberalizing their markets or lowering tariffs on the product or

(01:03:11):
whatever it. Maybe they said, well, now you can only
charge one hundred dollars. Well that's actually pretty expensive microwave,
but whatever, you only charge twenty dollars for your microwave. Well,
guess what, the people making microwaves can't make any money.
See what do they do? They stop importing microwaves. That's
what's happening with housing in a rent controlled environment. They're

(01:03:34):
driving up the cost with mandates, and then they mandate
that the cost get driven down. This is straight out
of the road to serfdom. Baby, this is Hyak coming
at you with all the truth. What does Hyeke say
in the road to serfdom? Every government intrusion is going
to be followed by more government intrusions because they create,
they create dislocations of capital and sound investment. And then

(01:03:59):
the the response to that from the people that did
in the first place is always going to be, oh, well,
let's fix that with more dislocations of capital and unsound investment.
That's what happens, that's what gets done. And then you
add on to this the lack of because remember affordable housing, folks,
You're going to hear it a lot from Sanders and o'cazio,
Cortez and all these you know, you're a lot of

(01:04:21):
affordable housing talk, a lot of that going on. You
know what all that's going to mean is the government
either subsidizing developers, which just means the tax dollars are
going to this, or it's going to mean that they
institute rent control policies. Rent control in New York drives
up prices for everybody who is not covered by rent control.

(01:04:44):
But in New York, the problem is that there are
all these there's a million people in New York City
who are directly affected, meaning they were one of their
family members is in a rent controlled unit of some kind.
And so when you try to change that, if you're
in the New York City New York City Council, guess what,
you got a million people that'll show up and make
sure you lose. They are single because housing is so

(01:05:07):
expensive in New York City. They're single issue voters on
rent control. But that's just chronyism, folks, It's just chronyism.
Just people that are getting something that they're not entitled to,
that are defending it through the political process. But that's
what cronies do. You're going to see more of this,
but see see it's a perfect illustration of how the
left does not understand the root cause of a problem

(01:05:30):
and in fact just makes it worse. They make the
problems worse. Oh, by the way, as if that wasn't enough,
there are left wing activist groups that make this a
function of who wants who wants to guess. Remember in
Venezuela they do price controls, and then what's the way
that they they double down on this. Oh, that's right,

(01:05:53):
that's right. Social justice, social justice, that's what they are
trying to accomplish here. Go back to this piece in
the Wall Street Journal by Mark Hemingway quote. Rather than
address the lack of housing supply, legislators have seized on
rent control and feisty left wing groups like Portland Tenants

(01:06:17):
United dominate grassroots politics in Oregon. Over the past few years.
The group's divisive founder, a professor named Margot Black, has
become a political force. PTU has organized rent strikes and
picket lines against landlord seeking rent increases and push the
legislature to adopt drastic rent controls. Homegrown Oregonians tend to

(01:06:40):
be white and racist, she said during a twenty seventeen
television interview. I think the faster they can get out
of the landlord business, the better. The PTU imploded last
year in parodic fashion. Miss Black was forced to step
down as a leader of the group for allowing, among
other things, a PTU organizer to sing this land is
our land over the objection of the group's Native American

(01:07:03):
racial equity tregner. Well, that might seem absurd. Ptu's persistent
agitation is largely responsible for making rent control a dominant
issue in Portland politics. Folks, this is what happens. This
is a microcosm of progressive urban politics at work. What

(01:07:26):
do they do. They create a problem with government regulation,
They try to address the problem with government price controls,
more mandates, and then when that doesn't work, they just
say it's the bad, greedy people responding to these government
incentives in rational fashion. They're the problem. And you know

(01:07:48):
what happens. Then the builders, the developers, they say, I'm
going to spend my money elsewhere. I don't want to
deal with this madhouse in Portland, and housing is even
more in short supply. It's like the anatomy of the
left on economics here in one and one fell swoop.

(01:08:09):
So see, it tells you a lot about how the left. Thanks.
I hope you enjoyed our little foray into Portland and
Eugene and other places in Oregon in their real estate situation.
We'll be right back. So I think I have a
long history in civil rights activism. In nineteen eighty eight,

(01:08:30):
I was one of the few white public officials who
supported Jesse Jackson for President of the United States, and
they end up winning. For month, I think if you
look at my record in terms of civil rights and
other areas, you will find that it is consistently a
very very strong work. Any legislation we can point to, well,

(01:08:54):
legislation that benefits African Americans, but not specifically, you know, legislation.
Oh but the you know, I'm a I'm a civil
rights hero, but I didn't actually pass through the legislation.
Oh just you know, I want to talk about social justice.

(01:09:14):
And you know, Bernie gets away with a lot because
he comes across as this somewhat likable, kookie professor guy
from New York, even though he's not a professor. He's
been a guy living off the public, public dime for
his entire adult life. But he's really not very impressive.

(01:09:35):
I watched and we didn't really pull any audio from
it because it was all the same. You know, the
millionaires and the billionaires are gonna pay for this, and
they're gonna pay for that. And we're gonna have free
college like every industrialized country in the world. We're gonna
have great healthcare, you're gonna have no more debt. You're
gonna have unicorns and magic plumb fairies giving you all
the sweet treats you want. I mean, it's the usual thing.

(01:10:00):
A lot of Also, how Trump is. I thought it
was interesting he said that Trump is divisive, and Trump
is the guy who's separating people. Meanwhile, Democrats whole platform
is based on intersectionality, which is just how you assess
and how you rank and handle different groups that oppress

(01:10:21):
each other. I mean, that is what intersectionality is. But
Democrats accused us of, or rather Trump of being the
divisive one. I think that's kind of rich. But you know,
Bernie Sanders, I think right now, if you had to
say who's going to be the nominee, a lot of
people would put their money on Sanders. A lot of
people would say that Sanders is going to come through

(01:10:43):
this Democratic which is already what it is that twelve
candidates already, I think. I mean, it's crazy how many
candidates there are the Democrat Party right now. It's just crazy.
A lot of them are just complete, you know nothing
burger candidates as well. I saw this guy today, John
Hickenlooper from Colorado. I would say, I haven't really have really,

(01:11:07):
you know, heard of this guy much before, and I
was like, where have I heard about him? The biggest
knock on him, from what I understand, is that he's
not a total communist and can be somewhat reasonable, and
everyone's like, whoa, you can't win a Democratic primary if
you're gonna be in any way reasonable or normal. But
then I realized that the most famous thing about him
is that he likes to pull this this trick where

(01:11:29):
he'll drink water to prove that something is clean. He
drank he drank fracking fluid back in twenty thirteen to
show that it was safer than the critics were saying.
But he also after a major environmental disaster on the
Animous River, he drank a bottle of water from the river.

(01:11:50):
But turns out he put a water purification tablet in
it beforehand and waited thirty minutes for that to take effects.
So I don't know about that one, but I don't
know if we can give you the give you a
pass on that. And then of course he got the
other one, the other great hope of the Democrats, Joe Biden.
Joe Biden, and Trump's already got his numbers somewhat where.

(01:12:10):
But Joe Biden's a total mediocrity, all right. Nothing about
him is impressive, nothing about him is inspiring. He's just
a classic Democrat machine politician. And there's just he's just
got nothing. I mean, you know, and without the media
running cover for all this stupid comments. You know, I

(01:12:32):
don't think that you're gonna have the same ability for
him to just pretend like, oh, that's just Joeb and Joe.
But I see today the New York Post is saying
that you know who might run if Biden doesn't run.
The governor of New York himself, Quomo, who many people
say does not have three entire brain cells to rub together.

(01:12:55):
But perhaps he can borrow a half a brain cell
from Biden and maybe a brain cell or two from
Ocasio QUOTEZ and make a full I don't know how
big the number is, but brain cells enough to run
for Democrat. That's right, Cuomo might run. Look, there are

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(01:14:47):
everything that was President Trump at CEPAC over the weekend
talking about what's going on in Venezuela. We have a
friend of mine, an ex burnt on Latin America, joining
us now from the Heritage Foundation. Anna Rosa Quintana is
with us, so you can tell us what's going on

(01:15:07):
right now with Venezuela and also Cuba, which has gotten
into the mix. And thanks so much for calling in. Hey,
thanks for having me. Okay, so let's just start with
Trump is now tightening the Cuba embargo because Cuba's helping Venezuela.
Can you walk us through the Venezuela Cuba situation here?
I mean, the best way of understanding the relationship between

(01:15:29):
both countries is Venezuela has exported to Cuba and has
kept up the Cuban government alive through oil and through
petro dollars and Cuba and exchange has provided Venezuela with
a police state, which is why you have not seen
the level of defections that should be normally be seen
in a country with such a dire humanitarian crisis. I mean,

(01:15:50):
because the police state and the I mean just the
counterintelligence system that exists withinside of Venezuela. It's the same
reason why the Castro regime has survived for sixty years. Well,
they were and they were trained by the KGB, and
so that's so everyone should keep in mind that the
Soviet KGB trained the Castro regime secret intelligence, which has
now trained Venezuela's secret intelligence. So there's that exactly exactly,

(01:16:13):
and Maduro is a product of that. I mean, Maduro
is not somebody who is a savvy politician or who
knows the US political I mean not at all. Maduro
is a thug, and he's a thug who is a
Soviet trained thug. I mean, he's a diehard Castro apologist.
He's obsessed with the Cuban government, obsessed with the Castro Revolution,
just like how Hugo Chavez was. So, you know, and

(01:16:36):
I keep seeing this recurring criticism on the left and
from some pretty big voices, including Representative Ilhan Omar, who's
in trouble for some other stuff she's been saying recently,
But you see it from her. You see it a
lot from Glenn Greenwald, who on some issues I think
is very sound. That is thinking on this one I

(01:16:56):
think is pretty far off. I listened to a podcast
with Army SKay Hill. You know, you have some of
these very well known leftist American thinkers and writers who
keep saying that we are engaged in a coup in
Venezuela and that we're making the same mistake that we've
made for decades in intervening in Venezuela. I wanted your

(01:17:18):
take on that whole line of thinking. Listen, the only
intervention that's happening in Venezuela, and that's been happening for
the last twenty years, is the Cuban, Russian, Chinese intervention.
And they all have various different objectives. Right, Cuba has
only survived. The cash regime has only survived because they've
they've been like leeches, right, they've like sucked their teeth

(01:17:39):
into a foreign country that's had more resources than they've had.
You know, before it was a Soviet Union and then
and now it's Venezuela, and it's you know, and now
you look at Russia. Russia has political objectives inside of
Venezuela because you know, Venezuela is a country that's in
the Western Hemisphere, and now Russia can be a powerbroker
in the future of Venezuela, a country that the United

(01:18:00):
States has deep and strategic interest in. And China. Again,
China's economic interest in expanding their presence in the Western
Hemisphere is very well known. There's no there is zero
in terms of interventionism. In fact, it's the opposite. The
United States and over fifty countries this is what I
think is so critical. Here's over fifty countries and it's

(01:18:21):
the majority of the Western hemisphere. This is something that
is unprecedented. You've never seen the majority of Latin America
unite behind anything. They've never united against the cast regime.
And the Castra regime has been around since nineteen fifty nine.
Yet the majority of the Western hemisphere has said enough
is enough. The Madure regime as a dictatorship. These guys
are drug traffickers, these guys are thugs. We need to

(01:18:41):
get rid of them. Now, what do you say to
the criticism from the same some of the same folks.
But you're doing such a good job with the other criticism.
I want to throw this at you too, that well,
why Maduro? Why Maduro? When we're friends with the Saudis,
We're friends with the Chinese, you know, you know, we
do business with some pretty bad people around the world.
To the left is saying, I'm like, I think it's

(01:19:01):
a smoke screen, But I want to know what way,
what do you think? Look, I think one of the
United States does not have a cookie cutter foreign policy, right,
I mean, there's times where the United States has to
put aside principles in terms of greater national security interest. Right,
But when it comes to Venezuela, you have to look
at it from the perspective of one Venezuela. The Venezuelan
government and high ranking officials within the Venezuelan government are

(01:19:24):
well known drug traffickers. I mean, and now I'm not
talking about like small amounts like these guys are deeply
involved with Mexican drug cartels. These guys are deeply involved
with Columbia's terrorist organizations. And we have to remember Venezuela
and Colombia share a very long border. Colombia is the
United States is largest foreign aid recipient. So when we
look in, Columbia is also the country that is the

(01:19:45):
largest cocaine producing country in the entire world. So when
we start thinking about, all right, the United States still
has a massive cocaine problem. Right. We have an opioid crisis,
that's for sure, but we still have a huge cocaine problem.
So we look at the Venezuelan government's criminality, and there's
a US body count that's directly associated with that. That's one. Two.
You look at the refugee exodus, You've had over three

(01:20:07):
million Venezuelans who've left the country. If that number continues,
there's thirty two million Venezuela, thirty two million Venezuelans left
behind in the country. If the political crisis, the economic crisis,
the humanitarian crisis, if that continues, that is going to
destabilize the rest of its neighboring countries. Colombia has already
received nearly two million Venezuelans who have permanently stayed inside

(01:20:30):
of that country. Over fifty thousand leave the country every
single day and are transiting through Ecuador, through Peru, through
all of these other countries. Imagine if the United States,
imagine if Mexico, for example, is having a humanitarian crisis,
and we have one point five million or two million
Venezus Mexicans that enter our country and permanently resettle here
within a time span of like four or five years,

(01:20:52):
that'll completely distable. Exactly. It is our problem is it's
our problem. It's a huge problem, right, And that's the thing.
And I mean, there's just so many other factors here,
and it's just like, guys, what's happening in Venezuela directly
impacts US national security interests. What is keeping Maduro from
toppling at this point. And you know, without getting too

(01:21:12):
far into this from the American side, what should the US,
what should the Trump administration were doing? Look, so, the
Venezuelans have been really great about keeping this police state
in place, right, and Maduro has over the last twenty years,
they've been able to consolidate the levers of power under
their control. They control the food distribution systems, they control
the electoral authorities, they control just everything. And also they

(01:21:36):
have such high ranking the high ranking government officials. I mean,
they've just benefited so greatly and are just so deeply
entrenched from corruption, whether it's drug trafficking, food trafficking, you know,
making money off of embezzling from the oil industry. I mean,
it's just the corruption has just been rampant, right. So
it's obviously clear why these guys have not defected because

(01:21:58):
they really have no other options in life. It's either
being a corrupt government official or just you know, spending
the rest of their days in either Russia or Havanah.
And so that's why we haven't seen those really high
level defections. But I mean, there's been nearly six hundred
soldiers who have defected putting their families at risk. I
think that's that's pretty significant, the fact that six hundred
soldiers have risked the lives of their families because now

(01:22:20):
what happens is now these guys have crossed over into Columbia.
Their families can be arrested, they can be imprisoned, they
can be tortured, and that's probably what's happening to them
right now. And that's why we haven't seen the high
level of defections that you know, that should be that
people are, you know, thinking that should be seen. But
the momentum and the time is not on maduro side.

(01:22:42):
I mean where Venezuela is right now in comparison to
where it was three four months ago, I mean there's
a strong momentum against Maduro and really time is not
on his side. And in terms of what the US
should be doing, I think it's not just what the
US should be doing, it's what the international community out
of be doing. You have the over fifty countries that
recognize Guido. These guys ought to be making sure that

(01:23:03):
only Guido has access to Venezuela's reserves abroad, if he
is the interim president, if he is a legal legitimate
President Maduro should not be able to access one single
penny of Venezuelan state reserves. That's one two. I think
every country and in that entire coalition ought to be
ready to name, to publicly shame all of the Venezuelan Maduros,

(01:23:25):
the Madurou regimes, families, their affiliates, their enablers within their
respective countries, because there will be a day where they
should no longer be allowed to enjoy living luxuriously in Spain.
Also their illicit money. I know other governments should be
working to seize this money as well. The US has
sanctioned nearly two hundred some odd Venezuelan government officials. I mean,

(01:23:46):
Trump has just gone sanctioning crazy, like he's just been
such a rock star at this. He's really hit these
guys where it hurts, and they only care about their
pocket bucks. Other countries ought to be reciprocating and doing
the same. All right, Anakinzana from Heritage, great stuff. Thank
you so much for joining us to share your expertise.
And we'll have more on this and we'll follow up
with you soon. All right, talk to you soon, same,

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(01:25:17):
What does it mean? Why is it? Why is it
coming up so often these days? Well, it's basically this
idea of exploiting global people to sell something to raise
your brand awareness. And I think it's coming up because, well,
look brand Seapack has always been a representation of where
the Republican Party is, where it's going, and I'm not
sure it was ever at this place for intellectual discourse
of some people will say, but it has in recent

(01:25:40):
years become more like Trump. It's a celebration of Trump.
And so you see a lot of grifters, people throwing
red meat rhetoric out at crowds to raise their brand.
Guys like Charlie Kirk, Diamond and Silk Michelle Malkin. Those
are the people there, and they are selling books off
in at Seapack. They're trying to get subscriptions to their organizations,
and so you know, it's no longer any pretense of

(01:26:03):
discussing intellectual philosophy about conservative movements. It's now about really
raising a brand, owning the libs and selling your books
to these people. Hey, guys like Dan Bondino, I mean
that is absolute bullcrap, but of course it's it's CNN
talking about Sepack. It is absolute garbage. Now, are there

(01:26:26):
some red meat fire up the base speeches that happened
in Seapack on the main stage. Of course there are,
but there should be. There are very few events that
occur in the United States where you show up and
conservative media is well represented, never mind the dominant force.
And you know, this was the first time I had

(01:26:48):
participated in Spack as a speaker. It's the first time
I'd really ever been to Seapack in its modern narration.
I haven't been in ten years. I just popped into
hear Rush Limbaugh speak back in two thousand and seven.
But this idea that there was no intellectual discourse at seatback.
And first of all, whether you agree with with me

(01:27:10):
or you agree with Mark Tison on our Syria exchange,
I represent the get out of Syria point of view
with as much background and knowledge as as anybody on
that issue. Not to sound a little bit pompous, but
it's true, at least in the media. In the media,
I'm not there's a difference between people who are working
the issue in the government side still but from the
media perspective. And Mark Tison represents the neocon point of

(01:27:33):
view as well as anybody. And we really got into it,
and you know he is I disagree with them, but
he's very well read and he's he's eloquent from his
point of view and is certainly not lacking in knowledge
on the subject matter. Neither am I. And yes, that
was just one, but I also did a breakout panel

(01:27:54):
with Bill Gertz of the Free Beacon and a congressman
from actually from four Wayne. The congressman's from four Wayne, Indiana.
WHOA WHOA in the House? That's right. If you're listening
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(01:28:14):
We're gonna bring down the house. It's gonna be amazing.
But that discussion that I had with them in this
in the side panel, where were there about one hundred
people or so, maybe seventy five people in the room,
we really got in depth on cyber war and critical
infrastructure and these are people that understand the threat of
cyber espionage. And I mean it was a very high

(01:28:35):
level discussion. Gordon Chang did a speech that was not
even standing room only. People were sitting on the floor
and standing to hear about how we're doing with China trade.
And I mean, so so this this idea that Seapack
it's just all buffoons and owned the Libs that you know,
this is the caricature, But really Seepack also fills this

(01:28:58):
very interesting position in our media culture because for a
lot of DC journos, it's almost like a trip to
the zoo to go to Sepack. They see all these
different people that are their conservative counterparts, and they don't
socially interact with them very much. They don't work at

(01:29:18):
outlets where they spend time around conservatives, and you know,
they won't go on Fox News, they won't talk to
people who work in talk radio like I do. I mean,
that's just the reality of it. You know, I live
here in DC and I have constant interaction with people
from obviously the Hill where I work, but from the

(01:29:39):
Washington Examine or the Daily Call or the Free Beacon,
Fox News. You're gonna go on the list. I never
see any CNN people. I never see them professional and
never see them socially because they won't they won't be
around our ilk. They don't consider people and this is
the dirty secret of the media. They don't consider conservatives

(01:30:00):
to really be colleagues. They think that conservatives at best,
at best are some kind of you know exhibit. Like
I said, it's almost like conservatives were like the menagerie.
You know, Oh, we have got a couple of conservatives here.
Look at the conservatives. Look at the way they eat,
Look at the way they interact with each other. You know,
we're a spectacle, an oddity. They think that what they

(01:30:24):
do is media, what we do is conservative media. They
don't understand that they just represent a lib coastal smug
elite point of view, and we represent the other half
of the country that's a little known group called the
other half of America, and share a point of view

(01:30:45):
that maybe they should learn something about. But this also
brings me to how, you know, liberals don't understand what
conservatives think or how they think. They really don't. I
know what liberals think. I can make their arguments for them.
I understand very well what they really believe. And I
can't tell you how many liberals I come across who

(01:31:06):
when whenever, whenever it comes to conservative points of view,
they really fall on this. Oh it's all performance theater.
Oh it's all it's all a con. These people don't
really Conservatives don't really believe this stuff. And I sit
around and say, I socialize with I spend time with
lots of conservatives in media, many of whom you hear
on this show. We really believe this stuff. We go out,

(01:31:28):
we drink, we eat, we hang out together, and we
still talk about this stuff and we really believe it.
It's not a con it's not a grift. But I
guess that's really from the from the left wing perspective,
they would prefer, they would prefer the possibility of us
just being frauds instead of having to engage with our ideas.

(01:31:51):
And also they like that they get to slander us
as frauds without having to provide any evidence or support
for that. And then there's just one more thing. And
I went to a couple of parties at Spack where
a lot of a lot of prominent conservatives were there,
and you know, I was talking to former spec ops
guys that have started that have started their own media
company and I'm hoping to do their show soon, and
they had just we had such a fun time, so

(01:32:13):
many good people at Speck. But there were these little
smug lib reporters kind of skulking about. And I don't
mean it's one thing to skulk about in the you know,
in the back of the main stage room, because you
know they're pressed. They're they're covering the event, and we
want them to cover the event. And yes, there's gonna
be stuff like the Bullwork, which is a crap publication
that's just a bunch of bitter people that aren't relevant anymore.

(01:32:36):
Hiring an anti abortion communist to cover people at spack
for a supposedly conservative magazine. That actually happened, But you
know what I saw happening, And this is just tells
you who these people are on the left. Yeah, these
reporters that were going to social events and you could
tell they're you know, people are drinking and they're talking,
and they're just looking for a conservative doesn't have to

(01:32:57):
be a public figure to say something that they can
vote out of context, to trash seapack. That's what they're
there for. They're there not to cover it as journalists,
but to do opo research. And that's why why this
discussion it's bad, bad Stelter that maybe they are just cants.
Maybe that was making that Stelter, you only have your

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job because you're a lib suck up who looks like
the guy who runs CNN. So there's that we reject
oppressive speech, coats, censorship, political correctness, and every other attempt

(01:33:39):
by the hard left to stop people from challenging ridiculous
and dangerous ideas. Instead, we believe in free speech. Many
emergency declarations have been used to protect people in far
away nations. Now we are protecting fine, our people. You,

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our people. So Trump is pro free speech, which liberals
increasingly can't say that they are the most interesting takeaway
from his Seapack speech when I was there at all
the seapack well, actually I cannot tell why I was
at home during trump Seapack speech. I was watching it.

(01:34:24):
I did watch it, but I had had a late
night the night before at Seepack, and so I decided
to get some sleep and rest up. Because the Secret
Service requirements with it, you had to be there very
early in order to get close to the Trumpster when
he's doing the speech. So he said that he's thinking
about pulling federal funding for universities that will not commit

(01:34:48):
to free speech. And what I think is so funny
is that automatically liberals hear this and they go, oh
my gosh, how will you have universities be speech police,
and I have to laugh and say, Okay, first of all,
they already do do that. They just do it in
favor of libs. They just do it to the benefit
of the left. But they're already policing speech. So all

(01:35:11):
that we're trying to do is say, can you police
speech to make sure that it is free? Essentially, don't
police it? How about that you are policing it now
in favor of the left. How about you just don't
do that thing? As liberals are all, oh my gosh,
what will we ever do? How will the universities know
what free They think about this? The left takes the

(01:35:32):
position that it's hard for the universities for colleges to
know what free speeches. If colleges can't figure out what
free speeches, then I think we really need to rethink
what's going on in colleges as a very a very
general and sweeping way, like what would you say you
do here colleges. I think it's a very very important

(01:35:56):
idea for Trump to push out there, and to keep
in mind that, you know, Obama and his administration really
one of the most just despicable things that they did,
or at least we're thinking about doing. They at one
point threatened to pull federal funding for schools. That's right,
Department of Education funding for schools that if a state

(01:36:16):
would not enact their insane transgender policy of twelve year olds,
you know, showering with twelve year old twelve year old
boys showering at twelve year old girls because they feel
like a girl. That's what the Obama administration. Yeah, this
was a real thing. The threatened to pull federal funding.
So I think pulling federal funding for schools that refused
to be free speech supportive, I'm fine with that. I

(01:36:40):
don't see what the problem is. And people say, oh,
they can't implement this, I just I point out, well,
hold on a second. What about Title nine? Why why
is it that wrestling and lacrosse and other programs at
school's crew men's crew, which I did in college, they've
been decimated across the country. Why is that? Oh, because
you need parity for men's and women's sports, even though

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men generally care more about playing sports at a college
level than women do. Don't tell anybody. Look, you can
yell at me by the percentages, it's i't People get
mad when I said by the percentage is it's just true.
It's just true. Doesn't mean you shouldn't have women's sports.
But interest from men in playing college sports is higher
than interest in women. It's just a fact. But you

(01:37:24):
have to have parody in the fun day anyway. Schools
enforce all kinds of Title nine, including the kangaroo courts
over sexual assault where the accused has no rights. The
federal government uses Title nine and the removal of funding
under Tunnel nine as the way to, you know, implement
all that. So trust me, if they want to, if

(01:37:48):
they decide that they want to get compliance here on
that free speech is important, they can get it. There's
no problem. There's no shortage or ways they can make
this happen. So don't believe a laugh when they're, uh, gosh,
how can they have the free speech? I don't know,
it's really not that hard. And if universities camp be
beacons or free speech, well where can we have that?

(01:38:08):
But as we know, this is what was it in June.
When I am When I am weak, I played by
your rules because it favors because it favors me. When
I'm strong, I played by my rules because it favors me.
I mean, that's that's essentially the left on college campuses.
I've got that quote. You know that was a paraphrase,
but you know it's a good quote. It's from Dune.
There's a book I should probably read at some point. Hey,

(01:38:41):
Team Buck, it's time for roll call. I just want
to say it thank you to all members of Team
Buck who came out to see pack and said hello.
We got to chat, take photos. A couple of people

(01:39:03):
had me signed things, which was which was fun. So
thank you so much for making that happen. Good to
see all of you, and I hope you enjoyed my
debate with a very hardcore neo con We definitely got
into it over what should be done on the question
of Syria. So if you got a chance to see that,

(01:39:24):
I think you saw. I wish we had about another
twenty minutes, but we made the best use of our
time on the maid main stage that I think we
could have under the circumstances. So let's get to it.
We have first up here Harry who writes, oh this

(01:39:45):
is Facebook dot com slash buck sex and if you
want to be a part of this parte Hi Buck.
I read Mary Hudson's essay on Teaching in New York.
I never found it on your Facebook page, by the way,
But then again, I'm a ludd Eye. No, Harry, I'm
a luddite because I forgot to put on the Facebook page.
That's my bad. The last two paragraphs sum it up perfectly.

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If lower or no standards are set, they will be met.
My generation may have been one of the last ones
to get a genuinely good general education before racial integration,
which I'm not saying necessarily a bad thing unless coupled
with lowered expectations across the board. That seems to have happened,
and all the leftist nonsense took hold. Even my sister

(01:40:28):
tears behind me had an inferior schooling. I believe we
had a couple of young friends mid twenties that seemed
to know very little. I fear the leftists have won
by producing a population of functional illiterates, incapable of critical
thought shield tie Harry, Harry, I don't know. Is that
all a quote from her article? I can't tell if

(01:40:50):
what's yours and what's from that Mary Hudson essay on
Teaching in New York. By the way, I would just
say that the article's really good and I should. John
will remind me to put it up now. I invited
her on the show and she didn't come on the show,
And as producer Mike pointed out, it's probably because she's

(01:41:11):
a liberal, because she has a PhD in French literature,
which just doesn't sound like a very conservative resume to me.
So not that you can't be a conservative and have
a PhD in French literature, but it's unlikely, I think.
But she just had out enough with the school system
and with the most fascinating part of that essay is
the attitude, the attitude that these kids in a high

(01:41:33):
school level are owed something and even though they don't
do their homework, they don't do any work, they don't
have any respect, they don't have any discipline. They're all
going to get to go to four year colleges. It's
not how it works. And by the way, even if
they could theoretically go as in the funds were made
available to them, that may not be a good idea.

(01:41:54):
So it's a very good essay and I will try
to remember to share it. Garrett right, It's been a
podcast listened for nearly four years. And share a show
as much as I can. Thank you so much for
taking a stand about the evils of abortion. My question
is what does the two thousand and two Born Alive
Infant Protection Act not accomplish that necessitated the bill blocked

(01:42:15):
by Democrats last week? Love the Show, Garrett. Garrett a
very good question, and I'm not sure I have the
one correct answer on it, So I would just say
that before I tell you that I think that this
bill added criminal penalties for the doctor for not for
not taking action to save the bait or to give

(01:42:37):
the baby medical care. But it's a fair point. I
would need to compare the two bills. I would need
to compare them and see what's in them. Man, I
have not done that. Michael rides Heyblock. I was watching
Fox News today. They were saying how legalizing marijuana and
prostitution is a bad idea. However, the drug war is
the worst idea as a country we've ever had, and

(01:42:58):
laws against prostitution don't stop. They just make things worse.
Now I'm going to run out and vote for those
crazy Democrats because of this, but I just might stay home.
I think continue to advocate for the criminalization of victim's
crimes a bad idea for Republicans. What do you think
shields High? You know, Michael, I think that legalizing marijuana
is probably the lesser of two evils. I think that

(01:43:20):
legalizing marijuana is probably the way to go. I certainly
don't think that people should spend any time in prison
or have their lives ruined for personal use of marijuana.
I mean, I feel very strongly about that. And as
to prostitution, you know, it's a very it's a very
sad thing that anybody would be in that position. And

(01:43:43):
the line, as we've seen from some news reports recently,
between prostitution and human trafficking, right, somebody who's essentially forced
into prostitution can be a pretty thin one. I think
that as a moral society, it's very hard to have
prostitution be legal. I really do. And this is look,

(01:44:03):
this is this is core libertarian debate stuff, and libertarians
are obviously very into pushing to decriminalize victimless crimes. I
would just say that marijuana is not a dangerous enough
substance to be treated as a Schedule one drug. That's
just that's just anti science. I don't know how else
to put it. You know, alcohol is I think an
obviously more dangerous substance in large quantities than marijuana is.

(01:44:28):
Um so the science I think, and among other things,
as legalizing marijuana is gonna do. But you know, prostitution,
I just can't. I know, people do it. I know
they say, oh, it's the oldest profession and all this stuff,
and you know what's the line between some of these
They have all these websites now where you you have,
you know, an arrangement or the the they call it,

(01:44:48):
like the girlfriend experience or any things where someone you're
not explicitly exchanging money for sex, but the person expects
to be. You know, you're a sugar daddy, right, you're
signing up to so you're going to take care of them,
and that means paying their bills and giving them money
for things. And obviously the implication is that there will
be a physical relationship. You know that is that illegal?

(01:45:12):
You know? I don't think so, but you start to
see it gets a little gray. But now I've been
talking about prostitution way longer than I intended. Er in rights, Hey,
a quick question for you. I'm working a little project.
I'm wondered how you would define conservatism. Thanks well, Conservatism
is the act of conserving, and in this case, I

(01:45:34):
think it would be using history to conserve the wisdom
that we have learned in the past of limited government, constitutionalism,
natural law. And yeah, that's a pretty good that's a
pretty good off the cuff definition of conservatism. Seth rights
Ben Wine Garden Kickbot on Friday. Well, set that makes

(01:45:55):
me happy to hear. Ben is an old friend and
a very very smart and a good guy, and I
do get a lot of positive feedback about him on
the show. And like I always say, I want the
best guest host possible because I want you to listen
every night. I don't ever want there to be a night,
whether you're listening live or listening on the podcast where
you say, ah, you know, I'm not gonna tune anything
because Buck's not there and so and so. No, No,

(01:46:16):
I want you to listen every night. So that means,
like I get the best guest host that I can. Wayne, Wayne,
I'm on, I can't remember the words that song I
was gonna go into the Hey, Wayne, isn't that is
that Nirvana? John? I know I'm singing that's Nirvana? Right? Yeah?
And isn't that it's Wayne right. This isn't one of

(01:46:37):
the things where I have the lyrics wrong, is it
that would be? Is it really I'm wrong? I thought
it's yelling Wayne? Do I Did I just do that
on air? Did I just get the lyrics wrong? Go
a Nirvana song? You know what I'm talking about? All right?
Whatever I like, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna
get a lot of heat for this one. Maybe. I

(01:46:59):
don't know. I don't know if anyone who cares anymore.
I just think Nirvana is overrated. I just think Nirvana
is not that great. You know, people get so excited
the nineties about Nirvana, and I think kind of sounds
like a lot of other bands and the music is yeah,
you know what, I don't really like that drop. So
we're gonna we're gonna have to get that one. That
was producer Mike put that one in, and it's not

(01:47:22):
it's not for me. But see, I'm obviously in a
curmudgeonly mood right now. So there's that. Katherine with a
why this is meant for roll call? Great show? Buck.
My question for you is have you read the book
The Human Factor by Ishmael Jones. It is written by
a former CIA officer who says the agency has bloated
and bureaucratically corrupt. You agree with his conclusions. Also, have

(01:47:45):
you read The Fate of Nations by Sir John Glub
Thanks for your response, Catherine. I have read The Human
Factor by Ishmael Jones. He is right on some of
his broad conclusions about the agency being bloated and bureaucratic.
That is true. The book itself is very boring, so

(01:48:07):
I didn't I can't say that it's something I would recommend,
but as somebody who was in the agency, yes, there's
a lot of a lot of bloat, a lot of waste,
a lot of sloth and bureaucratic nonsense. And there's really
no question about that. Oh and the other one, the
Fate of Nations, I have not read that. I'm almost
done with the Last City of the Monkey God, which

(01:48:28):
is kind of an adventure book. It's a true story.
It's about finding the city in Honduras. In this area,
Mosquitia of Honduras is very the kind of most unexplored
part of Honduras. I wish I could tell you that
I really liked it, but you know, it's a lot
of like, oh, the dangerous snakes we gotta be you know,
I feel like I'm reading a book that's kind of

(01:48:49):
a bad version of The Crocodile Hunter, because yeah, there's
a lot of dangerous snakes. Okay, but now you're just
telling me more about Look, I haven't finished the books,
so maybe it gets better. But there's a lot of like, yeah,
and then we saw this really old stone that could
have been an altar for religious stuff. Oh, tell me
more about the old stone. It's not that awesome. It's

(01:49:10):
not that awesome. Andrei's writes buck your seat pack debate
was masterful on Syria. It was truly painful to hear.
I was in the Pentagon when the planes hit on
nine to eleven. Why do people do this? Do they
think it adds to their credibility? You're a patient and
thoughtful dude. I know it's rough. Keep spreading freedom of knowledge.

(01:49:30):
It's not only your passion we appreciate, but a gift
for us. All well, Andrea's man, thank you so much.
And shields how to you? It is very very kind
of you. And yeah, I think I think I was
able to explain my position well at the debate. Oh
we got another one in here, Philip rights Hey Buck
Shields High outstanding performance at SEAPAC on the Syria topic.

(01:49:51):
You smoke, Teason. You made the most poignant point on
the number of deployments required to fight them wherever they are.
Professional think tankers have run our form for far too long. Yeah, Phil,
I think that they just also never learned the lesson,
and that's frustrating because they don't really they don't really
carry the burdens, and they just do not learn those lessons.

(01:50:12):
So I gotta find the clip of that SPAC debate
so I can post it on Facebook. I'll try to
do that sometime this week. Thank you so much team
as always for joining me here in the Freedom Hunt
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