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March 17, 2018 • 109 mins

Team Buck is on Andrew McCabe firing watch. Why Democrats always get the benefit of the doubt. Russia retaliates. Buck interviews Sean Davis, Emily Zanotti and Sonny Bunch. Happy St. Patrick's Day!!

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It's what you've been waiting for all day. The Buck
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Buck Sexton. Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, Thank

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you so much for hanging out. Pleasure and a privilege
to have you joining me here in the Freedom Hut.
We have a freestyle Friday and Effect, which means we're
going to cover a whole bunch of different things throughout
the show, getting some serious stuff, have some fun, and
of course a little bit of St. Patrick's Day celebration
coming up later on. So we have a couple of

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main news stores. I wanted to get to today and
that has to do with the latest on the investigation McCabe.
I think we're on McCabe firing watch though right this
could happen. It may occur even while we are on air.
There is the chance that we will bring you then

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the the on air as it happens, or as it's reported,
at least breaking news about the firing. And so that's
just just keep that in mind that we might be
spicing up this Friday show a little bit with some
some breaking news there. And I would say about the
McCabe firing, usually I would refrain from having any sort

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of a celebratory tone or and I'm not by the way,
I would not celebrate it. I think it may be justice,
but I would not celebrate it. There's a difference. But
usually i'd be a little more sympathetic to a multi decade,
multi decade government servant who was about to get his pension.
It seems a little intense, But then you realize two things,

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or at least I realized two things as I think
about this. One. The conduct must be really egregious for
the Inspector General of the FBI to feel that a
termination at this stage of McCabe's career is necessary. We
don't know what the conduct is yet, so I can't feel, well,
we don't even know if he's gonna get fired, right,
But worried to be fired, and we don't know for what.

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Not clear to me if it's a bit stern, or
if it's exactly what has called for without knowing the
facts I leaned toward. It must have been really bad
if they're thinking about of this. But then there's the
the other component of this. I guess I'm getting into
the McCabe stuff. I'm switching the script here. I know
I this is all just a show that comes together

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in my head. So it's not like we write it
all out beforehand and we've got blocks and different segments
like on TV, and now we have to have this
person on right. I can do whatever I want. The
Freedom hunt is a free flowing it's almost like a
living organism, my friends, all of us together. So the
McCabe firing main fact happened. The other reason that I

(03:35):
find myself feeling a little bit like, hey, I can't
I can't feel too much sympathy for the possible firing
of McCabe is that other people who may in fact
have suffered from McCabe's partisan actions have been ruined in
this process of figuring out what happened and who was

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doing what at the d O j FBI, Russia lusion,
the Muddler probe, all this stuff, right, all these different
pieces that are coming together, and it's hard to feel
all that much sadness for somebody who may have not
just stood by but being a part of trying to

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ruin other people's lives. It troubles me that we have
now come to a place in our political discourse where
we seem to and when when I say we, I
mean a lot of Americans, not really you with me.
A lot of Americans seem to just want whoever disagrees
with them to be charged with the crime. And I

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would say, well, it's different with Hillary, because it's not
that we didn't conjure up Hillary's crime. She committed them
and they were real and she got away with it.
But they still want to lock up people on the
other side of the aisle for minor crimes or perhaps
even no crime at all. You had to Dershoitz, I
Alan Dershowitz speaking about this and this comparison earlier today,

(05:03):
the Harvard law professor, I'm sure many of you are
familiar with. Here's what was said. General Flynn led guilty
to lying to investigators. A lot of people say Hey,
look he did. General Flynn did no worse than what
Mr McCabe did and he lost everything. Is that a
fair comparison. No, he shouldn't have pleaded guilty. If he
wasn't guilty, he obviously pleaded guilty. That ends the matter.

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But I haven't heard anything about McCabe acknowledging or admitting anything.
And absent and admission, I think you need proof, so
you know, just saying he shouldn't have pleaded guilty. But
the fact of the matter is that when you face
down federal prosecutors in the federal government and they have
you on one of these things, and they may be

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hiding exculpatory information, they may be colluding behind the scenes,
what choice do you really have. I've spoken to friends
of mine on prosecutor prosecutorial side about this, and they'll say,
you know, if we offer you a deal, you don't
take it because the federal sentences are stiff, they are rough.

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I mean, it's easy for Dershowitz to say this, but
but the reality is that for Flynn, for Flynn, if
he had not taken a deal, he could have gotten
the max. Maybe who knows, they could say, oh, there's
extenuating circumstances. At a minimum, who's gonna serve a year
or two in prison prison for lying about a non crime?

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And now we have McCay more and more information. By
the way, I have a story, big story that it's
actually the main story on I believe on Fox News
right now as we go on air um on Fox
News dot com. Yes it is struck page texts reveal
personal relationship between FBI official judge recused from the Flynn case.

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We have Sean Davis joining us later on in the
show today with that information. He is the co author
with Molly Hemingway of this piece. They have the text
messages that show this very strange relationship between a d
o J. Lawyer, FBI agent who was, keep in mind,
the director of counterintelligence at FBI, or maybe he was

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a deputy director, but very senior counterintelligence officer at the FBI,
involved in the Hillary email investigation, involved in the Mueller
probe in the other stages, had to be pushed out
of the Mueller probe, and he had a relationship with
the fins a court judge that seems very very shady.
In fact, it was the same judge who presided over

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the guilty plea of General Flynn. So to Dershowitz's point, Okay,
the process is the process, But what if the process
is tainted? What about the Ted Stevens situation? Um, what
about that where you had a senator who was railroaded
by partisan esecutors, whether it was because they didn't like

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Republicans or because they just wanted to get a scalp.
That's on the record, that's clear they hit evidence. So yeah,
Stevens was facing all these charges, they had exculpatory evidence
on the center from Alaska, and by the way, that
then led to the Democrats picking up that Senate seat,
which was necessary for the passage of Obamacare. Understand. I

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guess you'd call the political butterfly effect here. If prosecutors
going after Ted Stevens can result in a situation where
Obamacare can be passed, we need to take these things
very seriously when you're talking about corruption cases at a
high level, and it doesn't get any higher than a
presidential campaign, and the presidential administration that we are currently

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is currently embattled. Um Ari Fleischer took a slightly different
tone than Dershowitz today. Remember him from the Bush administration Look,
there's only one way to do this, and it's by
the book. If there is precedent, If the SBI Inspector
General has previously fired people, meaning they did not get
any of their pension, they should follow that president. If

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there are examples where they're mitigating circumstances, do they apply here?
Taking away a man's pench and a woman's pension who
has been a lifelong government bureacrat is a heavy, heavy
sentence shouly be imposed if it's deserved. The facts in
this case seemed to suggest it's deserved. We got to
know what they are, and I think that we're going

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to be finding out he relatively soon. I think he's
gonna get fired. I set it today on Outnumbered on
the Fox News couch. I believe McCabe is gonna get fired,
which is rare. I remember when I was at the NYPD,
there was a case, it was some time before I
got there, about um a guy who had missus subpoena
power miss you subpoena power in order to get the

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records of either next wife or an ex girlfriend. I forget,
but that's a bit. I mean, there's a huge no no.
And he had been on for a long time, and
I think he loves I think he I don't remember now.
I think he lost his pension. I'm pretty sure he
did force appoenaing the phone records, so that's this can happen.

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And it is really for a government servant, short of
criminal sanction, it's the it's the ultimate, the ultimate punishment
because if you're if you're close to getting and this
guy's days from getting his pension, this is what you've
been looking forward to and waiting for for a long time.
So we will see. But I think he's gonna get
He's gonna get canned. Jonathan Turley, the law professor, he

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also spoke about this, And I'm just trying to give
you a variety of feelings and opinions on this one.
I actually meant to go to Turley first, but I
went to Dershwitz instead. Who's you never know what you're
gonna get with the Dirsh. You know, the Dirsh is uh.
He's kind of a wild man. Sometimes sometimes you're with him,
sometimes you're not. Turley, he's he's a steady player in

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the legal analysisiety. Here's what he had to say. The
real is strange thing about all of this is that
McCabe so far has been worried more about pensions than prison.
That's not the choice that was given to Michael Flynn.
Michael Flynn, if you recall, was charged with false statements,
even though Comey's investigators reportedly believed that Flynn didn't intend

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to mislead them. That's not, apparently the conclusion of the
Inspector General with regard to McCabe. He's very important. The
FBI Inspector General, from what we know, claims that there
was a lack of candor from McCabe with regard to

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his statements to investigators. Winning the FBI's Inspector General team
about what happened when it came to the when it
came to discussions with the media, and perhaps anything that
had to do with other the Hillary email investigation and
or looking into the Clinton Foundation, and a lack of

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candor is a bureaucratese way of saying lied. But you'll
notice how important words are, right, extremely careless versus gross
negligence that kept Hillary out of prison, and courtesy of
lanky weird ocomy, changing just those words was exculpatory. Oh well,

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she wasn't grossly negligence. She was just extremely careless. Andy McCabe,
he's at a different category, different standard because he wasn't lying,
he was just lacking candor. Oh you'll see how lacking
candor Freendie McCabe may or may not result in disciplinary sanction,

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but a judgment call about the veracity about the truthfulness
of General Michael Flynn. A judgment call was made that
he should be criminally prosecuted for it. And if it
was a judgment call, my friends, don't you think he
should have gotten the benefit of the doubt. That's what
we keep seeing time and again from all of these investigations,

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Hilary's emails, the Clinton Foundation, Russia collusion, all of it.
The Democrats somehow always gets the benefit of the doubt,
and then some the Republican, the person tied to Trump.
It's what the doubt of the benefit, whatever we would

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call it, gets the raw end of the deal, the
raw end of the deal. And this happens with too
great a consistency and too great a frequency for it
to be a coincidence. This is the deep state that
we talked about. This is the corruption that grew to

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the very top of the Department of Justice and the FBI,
and we are just beginning to get some of the
truth here. We're just beginning to see this for what
it really was. We'll have we got more on this.
And also people are WHOA Russia. Russia's getting interesting right now.
They they have retaliated. I'll give you the details on that.

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You have to stay with me. But also it is Friday,
so John, let's not leave people out who want to
get in on the I'm putting action movie. People keep
asking if I'm back, and I haven't really had an answer,
but now yeah, I'm thinking I'm back. Quote, you have
a right to be. Friday's don't come fo eight four

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four n eight to five my friends eight four four
buck talking more about shady d O J stuff, McCabe's
pension on the line, and then Russia, all that more
coming up. The behavior, if it's manifested into action with

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your thumb on the scale of a particular investigation one
way or the other, then that I mean that that's
borderline criminal behavior, manipulating an investigation. I think I think
that this i G Report is going to be particularly impactful,
more so than any of these useless congressional investigations. I
think you're gonna see some pure TNT come out in

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this in this i G report. That was Chris Swecker,
who was an assistant who was the assistant director of
the FBI. He was on Fox News actually right after it,
right after I was on today and making some some predictions.
I totally agree with them. And there is something there's
There are criminal statutes that can apply. Just because you're

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in government doesn't give you a free pass with stuff.
We all know that. Obviously with classified information you have
criminal ramifications for that, but also official misconduct. Uh, and
it doesn't just have to be fraud. If you do
something really really bad and use your authority as a
government employee to do it, getting fired is not the

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worst thing that can happen to you. There are other
things that can happen to you too, So I think
everyone needs to remember that with this whole FBI situation
as well. We have to see what comes out. I
think the the i G report will be made public
so we will know. Um. Jesse in Jackson, Mississippi, Hey,
Jesse Gratings, book Sels high brother shield Side Jesse. I

(16:30):
just had to call him, mess with you a little bit.
I happen to be watching Outnumbered this morning on Fox. Yeah. Nice, okay, Yeah,
I love that show. You know, it's funny because I
watch you on TV and it's it amazes me because
you look like you're about to graduate from high school.
You're a very young looking guy to have the experience

(16:51):
and the knowledge, and I'm almost forty man, as Miss
Molly keeps reminding me, I'm up, I'm getting up there. Yeah,
but I mean you look like a kid. But I
said there, And I watched you right on the verge
of losing your cool with Marie Harf, and I'm like, well,
he's gonna choker any minute now, you know, I gotta
I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you something. People

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don't I don't think they know this, but it's actually
it's actually all love because Marie and I go way back.
I've known Marie for we figured out date on set
for twelve years. Marie's a friend of mine. We have
a lot of mutual friends in Calm. We knew each
other back in d C. Marie Harf, who you see
on Fox all the time, is an old friend of mine.
Jillian Turner, who you also see on Fox News, she's
a friend of mine from when I lived in d

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C and I was with the agency. So some of
the some of the other national security punits you see
out there were literally my social group in d C.
Which is pretty funny when you think about it. Yeah,
I mean you went from smiling to roll in your
eyes so eventually looking like you wanted to choker. Well,
well can we stay? Let's let's you know, let's just

(17:54):
no no, no need for choking imagery here. I look,
I think we got it got a little. It got
a little testy today sometimes, but it was all within
the It was all based on the substance. And I
gotta say I think I was actually much more. Uh,
some of my my colleagues were having a much more
strenuous debate than I was having with any of them.
There was off to my left, things were getting really

(18:16):
feisty for those you want to go back and see it.
I mean, look, sometimes I get a little spunky on TV.
What can I tell you? Jesse? Hey, but I know
you're just giving me a little bit of the rough stuff.
But it's all in love. Good to tell. Jesse's laugh.
He's having a good laugh. Jesse's got a good laugh.
Shields hide brother. Thank you for calling in eight four
or four to five. You want to chat with me,
please give me a ring. We got lines open here.

(18:37):
We got a bunch of phenomenal guests line up. I
think we got three guests line up on the show
later on coming up. So just keeping you on your
toes team can't keep you bored on Friday. It's gonna
be fun. He's holding the line for Ama Buck set

(19:01):
his back. We want to get to the bottom of it,
and we're really upset when you see at the highest
levels of the d J and FBI individuals who are
trying to turn their departments essentially into a political arm
of the DNC and Hillary Clint campaign that needs to
be investigated. Yes it does. Shoes is gonna be only
other foot folks. The pendulum can swing the other way

(19:23):
with using investigations as a weapon of politics, and in
this case, I think it's justified. I don't even I'm
not even looking at this from the cynical perspective, although
we could. You got the party in powers getting hound
with all these investigations. Oh yeah, they want to play
that way. Maybe we should play that way. Maybe two
can play at that game. I think it's about time.

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They think that the Mulla probe should stretch on for
two three four years. Yeah, just more and more investigations.
Witnesses people losing their life savings, trying to defend themselves,
leaks to the just, to the CNN, Lucy, and then
they would probably love that. It's so fancy, Lucy. And
then he's Manafique, but Washington Post, New York Times, all

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these others, and maybe we should just start investigating them.
See how they like it. You know, do one to
others might be a lesson. We need to teach the
Democrat deep state do one to others a reminder of
the Golden Rule via federal investigation. It could be it's
it's away, folks, It's one method. We could try it,

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all right, lots of lines, lit, I think every line
is let. All right, let's get into it. We have, uh,
first up, Horace in Columbia, South Carolina. Hey Horse, Hey Buck,
how's it going, man? It's good? Thank you for your call, sir, Yes, sir, so,
your show yesterday was very timely, uh with with the
pole topic of liberals not wanting to use facts to debate. Yes,

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the psychology of liberal host or progressive hostility right, So
with the whole gun can fold debates coming up again,
I mean I've lived through this as many times as
you have. I've tried to step outside of my box
and say, Okay, do they have a coherent argument somewhere
like Glenn Vick's control book on our side or John

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Watt's books? Is there anything you could point me to
where they have any sort of factual this is our
side on gun control and why we want it. I
I can't think of what the the single seminal work
would be on the left for gun control off the
top of my head, but I would say that if

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you want to know what they think and what the
arguments are that they use. I actually have a web browser.
This is true. I have a web browser that is
just bookmarked with and filled with all of my leftist
reading material. So I go on Huffing and post Slate,
New York Times Watch, which was really interesting to me
because part of that article I told you about about

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the psychology of of hostility and debates was we know
their side and they don't know ours. I actually spend
a good portion of my time every day reading how
the left explains to their own different arguments and ideas
and what their positions are so that I really understand
them so so really, I think the best place to

(22:18):
go would just be do a search in the New
York Times editorial page of on guns, same thing the
Washington Post, and you'll see a consolidation there of what
the progressive view is. In terms of any one book,
I don't know of. I don't know of a liberal
that has tackled the issue of gun control from the
perspective of let's go all in because here's the thing, horace,

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they don't want to put down on paper for the
most part, what the real goal is, which is confiscation
and the elimination of the Second Amendment. Remember that there's
a there's a dishonesty that's inherent in a lot of
the liberal arguments against guns, and that they won't tell
us what they really want, which is confiscation. I've found
it hard, you know, I fortnelt from guns and looked

(23:02):
at just what is their stance on the abortion? Can
they give a coherent here is why they can't they? Oh,
they would point you to they would point you to
the judicial opinion Roe v. Wade. I think is probably
there you're right, I agree with you, but I'm just
saying that's probably what they would say. And you'll notice,

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I mean, the arguments that they use in favor of abortion.
It's a lot of buzzwords and a lot of sloppy thinking.
It's very weak. Even honest liberals that I know will
say that Roe v. Wade is garbage legal interpretation, but
they still agree with the They agree with the outcome,
but they know that it's bad law exactly. Yeah, you know,
well it is uh and you know, look, this is

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oh wow. I'm just noticing now they're they're running the
text messages between Page and Struck on TV as we're
on the air. Horse. We'll have to get to that
in a second. But as as for you know what, Horse,
let me give this some thought. You know, whould be
the guy to ask. I will, because I'm in contact
with him. I'm in contact directly with John Lott. I'll
send him a message and say, hey, what's the best
one place counter argument book on basically pro gun control?

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And I'll see what he says and if I get
an answer to let you know, how about that? I
appreciate it. Yeah, you can just mention it on your
show absolutely rock and roll. Brother, Thank you for calling
and have a great Sympatrick staying a good weekend. Let's
take Uh. We've got so many wonderful colors here today,
Herb in New Jersey? What up, Herb? Hey Shields high,
Buck Fields High, Herb. I have just two quick comments

(24:29):
before I get to my point. First of all, during
your opening monologue, yeah me chuckle a couple of times,
and I thought to myself, Man, Buck is such a
fun guy to hang out with, even if only on
the radio. Thank you. I appreciate you're certainly you're certainly welcome. Um,
it's it's a great show. UM. My second comment is um,

(24:50):
and you know try I hope you're wearing a hat
to keep your head from swelling up here we go. UM.
Because of your background, you see so many things that
most of us will never see. And when you're offering
your analysis on the air, uh being on radio or TV, UM,

(25:11):
you know you're doing so from a lens that sees
things a little bit deeper than most of us will
ever understand. And for that, I just want to thank
you for what you do uh here on the air
with us. So you're very kind. Her thank you. Now
going to my point, UM, you know I I believed
and fully supported and still do uh President Trump. UM.

(25:34):
And in particular, um uh you know I was encouraged
by his promise to drain the swamp. Now, in the
case of Mr McCabe, if he doesn't instruct Attorney General
Sessions to make sure that Mr McCabe is fired, um

(25:56):
as a message to all the other bad um that
you think that would be disappointing and that would be
failing to uphold Trump's promise of draining the swamp. Right, Yeah, well,
I can agree with you in principle, although the way
that this works is actually the President doesn't have any
direct say over this because it falls under civil service rules.

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It's actually not something the President weighs in on. Specifically.
That said, the i G report, I believe has already
recommended firing. It's up to It's up to the Attorney General.
So the i G, of course the Inspector General for
listening the a G. The Attorney General can decide that
he's going to go with the recommendation or not, So

(26:38):
it's really herb in Attorney General Sessions is hands whether
this is going to be a firing or not, and
we will have to see and thank you for the
kind words, sir. She'ld tie and have a great weekend,
a great St. Patrick's Day. Let's take Steve in Biloxi, Mississippi. Hey, Steve,

(26:59):
Steve here a TV. But I don't hear you. Where
are you, my friend? I think Steve taking nap. Steve's
disappeared on us. Oh he's listening on delay maybe and
he says that, Buck, all right, Steve, we'll come back
to you. Maybe we'll try that. Let's get to uh,
look at Kenny up in Boston, our brother in Boston. Kenny,
what's going on? Hi? Buck? What's up? I got a

(27:21):
movie quote that may be pertinent here. Uh something last
week you said kinda disappointed me. You said something about
old movies stink or something to that. I think I said,
hold hold up, hold hold your horses, Kenny. I said,
black and white movies are overrated. And I stand behind that.
I just you know, John is literally pulling out the

(27:43):
gong on me right now. I have a quote from
a black and white movie, and I will tell you
the year of it. I'll give you a hint. Nineteen
fifty seven. It's a action movie. It's a war movie.
I consider all war movies to be action movies. It's
a quote within a quote, so, uh, protagonist is quoting
an English writer named Samuel Johnson, and our protagonist says, well,

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Samuel Johnson said, patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
And you know the movie you got me? What is it?
It's a movie called Paths of Glory. It's by Stanley Koprick,

(28:29):
a fantastic director. And the protagonist was Kirk Douglas speaking
that I highly recommended. It's a World War one movie,
and there are very few World War one action movie.
This movie is is great. I think I should give
it a look one time, and I think you will
like this. And it's very realistic and it's very realistic
uh um war scenes. You know, pass the gloria. I'll

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check it out. Thank you very much, Kenny for calling
in shields. How do you, buddy? Uh? You know, I've
got a whole list of Maybe I'll go back and
I'll try some more black and white movies just so
I can really put some meat on the bones of
my criticism here. You know, if I'm gonna be a
contrary the thing about being a contrarit is you. You
gotta come prepared for battle. And I know that people

(29:12):
think that black and white movies are good. It's like
whenever I tell everybody that Bruce Springsteen is super overrated,
I'm it's accurate, right, exactly, It's just accurate. But the Springsteen,
I know, we've had some New Jersey people calling, and
the Springsteen fans come after you like the Beyonce mafia
comes after you like you are just at their mercy.
So you better be ready to be like, oh yeah,
Why is it that he only has two songs you

(29:33):
can name off the top of your head? You know
you just I have the deep breath on this one.
Don't even get me started on Bob Dylan. Oh he's
the words smith of his generation. Please. Dylan sings about
as well as as gurgling gurgen speaks. Mr jam Remary
singer song for Nick Soon. All right, we're gonna roll

(29:55):
in a quick break. We'll be right back. We don't
have any personnel changes at this time. But the president
shouldn't be bound because Democrats and in the Senate can't

(30:16):
do their job. If the president wants to be able
to make a change because he feels like it's the
right thing for the American people. His hands shouldn't be
tied because Democrats failed to do what they were elected
to do. This president was elected to put forward policies
and push those policies forward with the team that he selects,
not the team that the Democrats think he should have.
That's not how the system works. And just because they

(30:36):
don't want the president to have his full team, that
doesn't mean if he decided to make changes, he shouldn't
be able to. At this rate, the United States Senate
would take eleven and a half years to confirm our nominees.
Eleven and a half years to confirm our nominees. In
the first entire term of the George H. W. Bush administration,

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his entire four years, he faced one close your vote.
In the entire four years of the Clinton administration, he
faced ten cloture votes. Under the George W. Bush administration,
the entire first term, he faced four closure votes. Barack
Obama face seventeen is in first entire four years. We

(31:18):
have faced seventy nine in our first fourteen months. This
is very important, folks. Those two sound bites, you are
getting a sense of how the Democrats are are stocking
the pond and pulling fish out of it, if you will.
They are, on the one hand, saying there's chaos, there's

(31:39):
all these unfilled slots, all these news stores, Washing Post
New York talks, Oh my gosh, we don't have enough
bureaucross what's gonna happen to us? Muffle? You've got the crumpets.
And then you find out that they won't let the
administration fill a lot of those slots. The numbers don't lie.
Cloture votes are what is it's it's the term used

(32:01):
in the Senate for essentially shutting it down so there's
no vote, right, That's that's what they do. It prevents
there from being a vote on the nominees. Uh. And
they're just they're in the minority, but they're shutting it
down time and again so on. So you actually have
Democrats complaining about how there aren't enough Trump administration staffings

(32:26):
that are getting filled, their staffers that are being pulled
in for these roles, while the Senate Democrats, with Chuck
Schumer leading them, are doing every literally everything in their power,
not like theoretically they're actually are doing everything that they
can to stop nominees from getting through. So they're they're
on they're on both sides of the transaction here. Yeah,

(32:47):
they're they're like they're they're lighting there. They're taking matches
and throwing them into the house and then running the
streets saying, oh my gosh, there's no fire department here.
It's like, well, maybe stop blighting the house on fire.
That would be a better would be a better way
to go. But the storyline about personnel and about the
White House, look, I've seen the stories. To mc master,

(33:10):
the National Security Advisor may not be long for this administration.
But you know what, he's a four star general. He's
got a very distinguished career. He's a very well regarded guy.
He's gonna be fine. You know, he served for a year.
Maybe we'll move on to something else. Chilkin at the
Veterans Affairs I think he might want to keep a
cardboard box handy in his office. I think right likely.

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And who's the other I don't think Kelly's going I
don't buy that. I see that reporting. No way Trump
likes Kelly. Kelly Kelly and Trump, I don't. I don't
see that. People are saying it. But Nope, there may
be some people inside the White House that would like
to see Kelly go. I won't speculate on that, but
I'm sure you could probably take some guesses. Maybe some

(33:53):
people that are not not thrilled with Kelly right now.
But that doesn't mean Trump's gonna say goodbye to him,
so I doubt that. But speaking of departures, this has
been reported all over the place. I actually say I'm
telling you this story out of some sympathy. So this
is multiple sources confirming that Rex Tillerson, and I'm only

(34:16):
I'm not telling you this to be gross, but you're
gonna probably see it. It's getting a lot of play
right now on social media. Rex Tillerson was fired while
he was in the lou That's how we found out
he was in the Privy and the reason he was,
and he was told by Kelly, the White House Chief

(34:37):
of Staff. While he was in the lou. I saw
this headline. I thought, well, that's this is just weird
on so many levels. Tillerson had picked up a stomach
bug on his Africa trip, and so he was in
rough shape. And I just say this because I have
I have been in that same spot stomach bug in Africa.
Let me tell you things you never want to have
to tell anybody that you know, you never want to

(34:58):
have to say the words I've got to I m
acbug while I'm in Africa. Uh, and he got really sick.
So I feel badly for him, and it just makes me.
It just reminds me that you can think you are tough,
you can think you are cool, but if you get
hit with the wrong kind of you eat some undercooked
meat in the third world country, my friends, you you

(35:19):
have a new sense of humility. Oh yeah, I don't.
I don't care who you are. You find me the
toughest dude. You find me the world's strongest man. And
he eats some uh, some bad kebab in uh, you know,
eat some bad kebab in Afghanistan. Oh, it's all over.

(35:39):
He's gonna have a rough couple of days. So I
feel badly for tellers everyone reporting on the story, because
you know, they're all laughing about how he was on
the you know, on the porcelain throne while while he
was dethroned. But it was because he was dealing with
some food poisoning in Africa, which is I've I've been
there with rough, rough stuff. So anyway you see that story,

(36:00):
I at least know what's going on because the headlines
are all like fired while on the pot. There you go.
It's not not the way the most secretaries of state
would want to go out. But also I would note
that the reporters a little bit of glee and oh yeah,
this is you know, the the ignominious ending directs Tillerson's
tenure as Secretary of State. But hey, look happens to
the best of us, right, happened to me. The President

(36:33):
has also shown that he's been extremely tough on Russia
throughout his administration, and I think particularly you saw that
today in the Russia sanctions that were put forward. I
think you can see what the administration's viewpoint is simply
by looking at the actions that we took today by
placing new sanctions on Russia. Welcome back to the Buck
Sexton Show. There you had Sarah Huckabee Sanders talking about

(36:57):
the actions the White House taken against Russia, which is
scaring everyone so much. It's like we're entering some new
phase of a Cold war. People are so deeply concerned
about where all this is heading. And oh, yeah, there
you go. Something particularly about the All All Mile Russian

(37:18):
choral group is like, you know, you can just see
a submarine with a big hammer and sickle on it,
getting ready to bring the world to the brink of annihilation.
So I still think that's also the best Tom Clancy movie.
Tom Clancy book made a new movie Hunt for October.
So the Trump administration has come out with some new

(37:39):
actions against Russian last couple of days, more sanctions. They've
put the thirteen Russians indicted by Mueller's probe actually on
the sanctions list. So that's pretty you know that that's
a gimme. I don't think that's a hard one to
pull off. But also Russia has accused I'm sorry, the
Trump administration has accused Russia of campaign of cyber attacks

(38:02):
targeting the US power grid. This is from nprs website,
but the news here is pretty straightforward. The reporting similar
across platform, so just bear with me. This is NPR quote.
Since at least March, Russian hackers attempted to infiltrate numerous
sectors of American infrastructure, including energy, nuclear, commercial facilities, water, aviation,

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and manufacturing. According to a Department of Homeland Security report
published on Thursday. The announcement came as the White House
impost sanctions against nineteen Russians and five entities for allegedly
interfering in u S presidential election and other cyber attacks.
Let me state that this is not new Russia probing

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our cyber defenses trying to find ways in. This is
the new surveillance for or future warfare. This is what
we can expect to be happening with any adversary going forward.
They want to map out our electronic networks of all
kinds and if possible, not just know where things are

(39:15):
and know what we have, but also shut it down
when the time comes. Think about it if you had
and this is where some of you I know are
probably yelling about e m p s as well, But
given the way that we fight wars today, if you
were able to shut off an adversary's electric grid, even

(39:35):
for a couple of hours, what kind of advantage that
would give you? Right? Think about what that would mean.
The panic that you set off and people say all
back that the military has you know, redundant power source
isn't all right? But think about what what happened in
the civilian areas while that was going on, and any
military strike that would be conducted with even a partial

(39:58):
power outage, are partial black out would just seem magnified
in the mind of those that had, you know, those
that were in the dark basically right, and the rest
of the country as well. And the Russians have been
working on this for a while. They've been they've been
experimenting and probing for some or some time. So people
are going to obviously look at this and be concerned,

(40:20):
as they should be. Let's not blow this out of proportion.
The problem comes in a sense with understanding what proportion
really is. I think that's fair to say, how do
you respond to Russia poking around in our power grid?
What is a real what what is a realistic and

(40:41):
fair response to that. We've we're trying diplomatic stuff, We've
tried sanctions, We're putting additional sanctions on them. See, Russia
can't be blocked off from the world. Russia can't be contained.
Look at what's going on, even with North Korea, where
you have a vast majority of the world states that
matter are that's probably a very unpc thing to say,

(41:02):
but on the global stage, only certain countries really really
make a difference on security policy. And now we're all
unique snowflakes and we're all equal in God's eyes. But
I'm talking about countries and power politics here. Ah, the
North Koreans are able to get around sanctions and they
can't even be effectively cut off from global markets from

(41:24):
cyber activity. You know, containment is never perfect, and containment
is even harder with a country the size of Russia
and the importance of Russia. And you've got Putin is
about to coast to a fourth I believe victory as presidents,
so he's who are going to be dealing with for

(41:45):
the foreseeable future. That's why as we look at these
different polkes and prods that we are getting from the Russians,
we need to understand that everything we do has to
take into account that there will be follow on actions
from the Russians and that they have their own ways
of making things more difficult for us. People are talking

(42:08):
about how this is a second Cold War. I think
that's overblown. Although I didn't read a book some years
ago about the new The New Cold War was the
title of the book. It's different now. The Russians aren't
waging some campaign for international Communism as they were when
they were the Soviet Union. But they do seek to

(42:29):
regain some sense of lost glory. I always remember the
words of a Polish friend of mine that I've stuck
with me that nothing brings Russians together like suffering. It
has been a phrase that provided necessary context and wisdom
for a lot of what I see going on with
Putin's regime. We see all this aggressiveness from the Nova

(42:53):
Chalk poisoning in the United Kingdom to what the Russians
have done in Syria. They didn't even really blink an
eye when two hundred Russians reportedly up to two Russians
were killed fighting as paramilitaries alongside Syria as a sad regime.
So but we we see this reporting, we think to ourselves, Russia,

(43:14):
such a becoming such a pariah and the international community
and you know, the at the United Nations and other places,
it's so out of what is the what are expectations
for great powers? And all the all those things you
can throw in there. Meanwhile, Putin has actually got a
lot of support inside the Russian inside the Russian population,

(43:37):
among the Russian population, and much of what we see
as necessary responses to his aggressiveness plays out in Russia
like we are all ganging up on them, trying to
prevent them from establishing their own spheres of influence. And
you know, this is where you start to get into
the the tribalism that does exist among nation states, right,

(43:58):
the sense that people have an allegian to country, and
the Russian people feel like in the post Soviet era,
they've gotten a raw deal and they want somebody who
pushes back, punches back, fights back for them, and many
of them think that that is Putin. There was a
profile done a while ago. I can't remember which magazine
it was in, but it was of what essentially what

(44:18):
Putin's day to day is like. And he starts off
reading the working man's newspaper in Russia. You know, he started,
I don't mean look like the workers Party, communist apparatic newspaper.
I mean like what you know, the equivalent I'm gonna
I was gonna name some papers here, but I don't
want to, you know, but the equivalent here of of
a tabloid daily that you know, folks would read quickly

(44:42):
on the subway on their way to work. That's what
he starts with. For Russians in Russian, Right, that's what
he wants to know. What is the what is the
every day that the working man in Russia think about things,
what's on his mind. And a lot of the stuff
that we see going on doesn't matter a bit, you know,
this stuff that's happened really in Syria And Nope, that's

(45:04):
if anything, that's just Russia upholding its obligations to its
friends and allies and partners. Right, that's the way that
it is viewed inside the country at some level. Yeah,
they hide dead bodies from the people of Russia. They
don't want them to know how deep the entanglements are.
And there's a lot of propaganda going on with all this.
But we need to understand what we're really dealing with

(45:26):
here on the other side of the table. This is
not a country that is waiting to have a This
is not a country that is just waiting any day
now for things to get much more Americanized and everything
to just be great. There's a certain pride and sense
of being under siege that unites the Russian people. Like
I said, nothing brings them together like suffering, and they

(45:48):
feel like the international community is being unfair to them.
Right now, they're being victimized by it. This is certainly
the narrative that Putin is. I mean, look, this is
all what I'm telling you is kind of the out
of the RTI propaganda playbook. I'm not saying this is true.
I'm just saying this is what is disseminated from the
Kremlin on down and is believed pretty widely in Russia.
And so it's with that that you have to now

(46:10):
look at us, with our media talking about all these
election hackings and these sanctions, and the American media's anti
Russia obsession, which has been so inflamed because of their
anti Trump obsession, makes it look like we are a
little hysterical over there. So there there's a sense that

(46:34):
we've lost a little bit of credibility I think with
the Russian population, or at least with some segment of it,
that we are always looking for some reason to be
upset at Russia, sometimes very much justified, as in the
case of the nov chuck Uh neurochemical poisoning that occurred.
But another stuff with all the different news reports, I mean,

(46:55):
how you see so much more of Vladimir Putin on CNN.
His name is said with so much greater frequency. Then
you will see the photo of or hear the name
of Hijin Ping, the dictator of China now folks president
for life. Okay, no more George Orwell's animal farm. A
lot of words banned from the Chinese Internet now because

(47:17):
they don't want people to be describing accurately what jin
Ping has become. That's a country with a billion people,
second largest economy in the world, and has big plans
for its future, plans that are going to conflict with
ours at some point. But the American media is much
more concerned with making making it seem like Russia is

(47:39):
lurking in every or Putin is lurking in every corner,
and the Russians are trying to drag us into some
kind of Cold war two point oh or maybe even
three point oh. Now this this new phase. The Trump administration, meanwhile,
which has gotten so much heat, it's gotten so much
pushback for not doing enough on Russia, has done a

(47:59):
lot on Russia in the last few weeks and really
over the course of the administration. I've mentioned to the
provision of Javelin anti tank missiles to the Ukrainian National
Army to fight against Russian backed and Russian just Russian
UH separatists in eastern Ukraine. There's also now sanctions that

(48:21):
have been expanded upon against Russian entities and individuals because
of some of what they have, some of what they've done.
It depends on we're talking about election meddling stuff, were
now the cyber attacks. But it's gonna be it's gonna
be tricky going forward because everything that we do, the

(48:42):
Russians have their own ways of responding to it, and
ultimately the sanctions that were put in place, and I'll
just say it, it's not gonna do it. Friends. It's
actually a few entities. Is a big country, all right.
I think us population in Russia thought I had a
hundred twenty million. How do you live in Russia? I
don't even know, Mike, let me know. Usually I know

(49:03):
populations pretty I'm pretty good with them. But I think
Russia is like a hundred twenty million. I'm guessing. Um,
it's interesting to familiarize yourself with country populations. Then you
have it is that what is it? You say? Under
a seventy million? Under seventy so it's huge. But actually
I was gonna say a hundred twenty million, No, alright
under seven he so I was a little off. I

(49:24):
think Thailand has seventy million. There's some countries that are surprising.
Pakistan is a hundred and twenty million, Nigeria has a
hundred and forty million, more like a hundred and fifty
or hundred sixty probably now. Actually there's some countries you'd
be like, whoa, we've got a lot of people. Um. Anyway,
back to Russia. Uh, we gotta watch ourselves here because
the media is really agitating for a very aggressive response

(49:46):
that the Trump administration has been responsible and how they
have reacted to these provacations. But let's let's keep our
you know, are I on the price here, which is
we just want things to be the best they possibly
can be for America, for our people. We don't want
to be brought into any foreign wars or conflicts, uh,
period full stop, and we really want to try to

(50:08):
avoid it. And we gotta have much greater concern about
what the future looks like with China than Russia. Russia,
we have there's enough cultural middle ground with us, and
just give it some time. It's still very early. The
Silvia Union wasn't that long ago. I think we're actually
moving right. Maybe not right now, but in general, if
you look at the last forty years or so, we're

(50:29):
moving in the right direction China. I think we're actually
seeing things. He's gonna get gonna get rough, gonna get tough.
I am barish on the future of what US China
relations are gonna look like going forward. By the way,
we got Sean Davis joining us to talk about this
huge story about these Struck page texts that reveal a
personal relationship between the between Struck and a judge. A

(50:52):
judge woid to recuse himself from the case of General
Michael Flynn. Shawn is going to be joining us here
on the show in just a few minutes. He and
Molly having We broke that story on the Federalist dot
com and now it is all over the place except
on CNN. UM, what a surprise. They're not covering it.
Oh wow, what a shock. The President is going to

(51:27):
continue fighting for the American worker. He's also working with
a number of individual countries UH and negotiating on areas
of national security where we can work together. UH. And
there's some flexibility there, and we're continuing to have those
conversations and will continue through the next part of the
end of next week, which is when I believe the
deadline happens. You know, I've got all freaked out about

(51:49):
the tariff situation, and I saw my conservative friends in
the media, including a lot of a lot of those
that are are quite honestly brilliant, and uh, I really
like their work and like the people, and they were
just hammering Trump on the old tariff's thing. And I've
been trying to give you just the the full picture.
I'm not saying I think tariffs are great. I'm not
saying I think tariffs are terrible. I'm saying, you know, okay,

(52:11):
I understand why people are opposed to them, and I
know what we we've talked about the econ one on
one aspect of it. But I saw very instinct piece
from Derek Scissors over to AI. We might have him
next week, hopefully we reach out to Derek where this
was exactly the kind of thinking that I was trying
to bring to this show, which is all right, everyone,

(52:32):
cool your jets, calm down a little bit, all right.
I'm not talking to you know. I'm saying this in
like the general you sense, not to my beloved audience.
But this whole notion that tariffs are gonna like destroy
the economy and a trade war and everything. The tariffs
that we're talking about are very small and on a
very small part of the economy. That's the shortened version
of this piece that Scissors wrote from me. Actually, I

(52:54):
think he's very smart. Scissors is very sharp on trade.
John choked. That's awesome. You you guys could see if
a John just like spat his coffee all over the
place is great. Yeah, that's right. That was a want
want from Buck, but I got John with it. Happy Friday, John,

(53:14):
make sure your caffeinate. Um. So anyway, they will have
Scissors on the That's like the highlight of my day.
But I got John to spit out his coffee there
with that. One earlier day, I had a want on
Outnumbered on Fox News. They're like, what do you think
of Lamb? And I was like, Lamb is a wolf
in Republican clothing. And they were like what. I'm like, Yeah,

(53:34):
that was a little stretched. That didn't really I mean,
it makes sense, but you gotta think about it too
long and then you're kind of just like, you know,
wolf in sheep's clothing, lamb Republican lamb pretending to you know,
you get it. I know you're like, Buck, move on,
I'm moving on. I'm moving on. Just a preview what's coming,
because we've got a lot here. I know, there's this
big story about the text messages between Struck and Page

(53:57):
about a judge on the FISA courts. You got FBI
d o J talking about some weird stuff involving a
fires a court judge involved with the Michael Flynn case.
Oh is this all a coincidence? I don't think. So
we've got Sean Davis joining us in just a few
minutes on that. We're also looking to see if McCabe
actually does get fired, which I still think is gonna happen,
but it might happen. What if it just happened with

(54:19):
a Trump tweet. What if he tweets out like right
before he has a burger and goes to bed like, McCabe,
you're fired. I mean I think no, he ca actually
can't do it, but you know, would be funny if
he did it. Anyway, So we're watching Thank you John,
So we're watching, uh, see if that actually ends up happening.
And then I've got to Emily Snati joining with just

(54:41):
some fun uh banter, because that's what we do with Msnati,
which he's on, and we'll be joined also by a
federal from the Washington Free Beacon later on Mr Sonny Bunch.
I'm gonna star Sonny Bunch. He'll be joining us talk
about Netflix and TV and then we'll have a phenomenal
roll call with some bagpipes Laddie. So basically, at this

(55:04):
point do you realize how awesome the show is going
to be until the end, So there's no reason if
you to do anything except finish it out. And oh yeah,
hall a friend about it. He's holding the line for

(55:26):
America buck sext in his back seg scoop today on
The Federalist. You know it's one of our favorite sites.
It is the Federalist dot com. It's co founded by
Ben Dominic and Sean Davis. We have Sean Davis with
us now and he's going to talk to us about

(55:48):
this this this major story. Here's the headline. Peter Struck,
remember him, the FBI agent with the shady text messages,
had personal relationship with recused judge in the Michael Flynn case.
Sean great to have you back with us, great could
be here. Thank you for having me tell me a
bit about Well, actually, no walk us through because there's

(56:10):
some complexities here and there's a lot going on. But
this is a big story you guys have on the federalists.
Tell us what's going on, how it might have really
affected the Michael Flynn case. So, uh, my colleague Molly
Hemingway and I obtained a bunch of text messages between
Lisa Page and Peter Struck used to the former FBI
agents and attorneys who are extremely involved in both the

(56:32):
Clinton case, the dossier Carter Page case, and as it
turns out, maybe even the Flint case. And what we
saw in these text messages between them was the fact
that Peter Struck apparently had a personal friendship with Judge
Rudolph Contraras, who he and Lisa Page referred to as Rudy,
to the point that they even schemed over texts about

(56:55):
how they could get in contact and talk with him
at her he was appointed a vice federal surveillance of
court judge, and how they could privately get together with
him in ways that wouldn't trigger a required recusal of
him from various cases. At one point. They even suggested
a cocktail party that they would invite him to where

(57:16):
they could talk to him and that would be much
better than at one on one conversation. They even used
the phrase, we have to have cover for these meetings.
So it's a it's a pretty big blockbuster, especially since
this judge is the one who accepted Mike Flynn, former
Trump National Security advisors guilty plea and then was removed

(57:37):
from the case just days after that. So there are
all kinds of questions about whether that case was properly handled.
You know, it was Peter Strock who was one of
the agents who interviewed one at the White House in
January seventeen, So this, this blockbuster bombshell, raises a whole
bunch of questions about what was going on with that case. Sean, Usually,
when when one of these stories breaks, the first thought

(57:59):
that goes through my mom mind is what they're going
to say to try to counteract the momentum here, what
they're going to say to explain this away, what the
excuse will be based on. And we're you know, we're
talking to the guy. Folks Shawn and Molly Hemingway over
the federalists are the ones who have access to these
text messages. Based on what's in those texts, Can you
even conjure up why an FBI agent would be saying

(58:22):
to his paramour, who's a d o J lawyer, we
need cover for a meeting. If it's just an innocent
beer among government employees, why would anyone talk that way? Well,
it's interesting we ask ourselves the same questions, you know,
what are the innocent explanations for this? But the thing
that we found most disturbing, in addition to the actual

(58:42):
substance of the messages, that to exchange with the Department
of Justice to actually withheld this from Congress. In the
records that they had provided the Congress of these text messages,
d o J redacted every single mention in conversation about this.
Despis a judge who ended up presiding over the flee
as was recused, So that right there communicates UH with

(59:04):
the fancy lawyers. Look called men's rea a guilty mind.
And it's like I said earlier, it raises a whole
bunch of questions. Why were they hiding that from Congress?
If there's if there's no there there, then there would
be no reason for them to hide it, and yet
hide it they did. Um. But because we were able
to obtain these texts where those redactions were not included,
we were able to get a full picture of what

(59:26):
was going on there. And it doesn't look good when
you have two FBI agents who have already been involved
in uh, you know, who knows how many shenanigans over there.
When you have them conspiring to clude with this judge
in secret, scheming ways to to have cover to have
these conversations, it, from my viewpoint, it all but screams
that you have to have a special prosecutor here to

(59:47):
this agency clearly cannot be trusted to police itself. Was
being a Shawn Davis. He's the co founder of the Federalist.
He is co author of a piece that's up right now.
It is the Main Store and the Federalists, and it
is getting a lot of attention, as it should. Peter
Struck had personal relationship with recused judge in Michael Flynn case. Sean,
at this point, you know, you mentioned the idea of

(01:00:09):
a special prosecutor from the d J. I've got kind
of a twofold statement slash question for you. One is
that it feels to me, like, if there's ever a
place where we need a special prosecutor, it would be
to look at conduct within the d o J that
is highly shady, considering the d o J is usually
the additional layer of you know, anti corruption overwatch we

(01:00:30):
have over the rest of the federal government. Right so
to me, it seems like the special counsels particularly needed
here for this kind of situation. And then also the
Michael Flynn guilty plea is looking more and more like
a Ted Stevens redux. Like this guy, I'm not sure
how exactly it happened, but there's plenty of evidence pointing
toward Flynn gott sandbags somehow here. Well, it's so fascinating

(01:00:54):
that you bring up Ted Stevens because the judge who
is assigned to this case after a contrarist was moved
from it is the same judge who took over the
Steven's case, Tim At Sullivan. Yeah, images, oh, he's the man.
I love Sullivan, go ahead, yeah, And Sullivan does not
mess around. He did not mess around in the Steven's
case where there was just massive prosecutorial misconduct, stuff that

(01:01:17):
was never disclosed to the defense that should have been
and he has already issued a pretty remarkable order to
Mueller's prosecution team that they had better turn over to
him the judge, all material exculpatory evidence that they have
in their possession that they had at any time, including
during their plea negotiations. And he notes in a footnotes
that a number of federal courts have held that withholding

(01:01:39):
that information from a defendant, even during a plean negotiation,
you know it hasn't gotten a trial is a miscarriage
of justice that would uh raise the Supreme courts ire.
So Sullivan isn't messing around the whole thing with Flynn
looks fishy, especially with computer. Struck was apparently the one
who who wrote up the notes of the interview with Flynn. Um,

(01:02:00):
you know, Flynn may be guilty. I don't know, Um
that you know, he knows and the Lord knows. But
what I care about is as an actual fair process
ording the constitution playing out here, and I'm beginning to
wonder if that was actually given to him. I think
it's also important for everyone to hear that the judge
that we're talking about, that Peter Struck was talking to
his uh paramore. I can't think of a better word lady.

(01:02:23):
He was having a you know, a side thing going
on with um Lisa Page. Judge Rudolph Contreras was on
the physichord, and that comes across in there in the
text messages between Page and Struck. It's like, oh, wow,
Rudy's on the physi cord. Now, isn't that important? Slash interesting?
Oh it's It's fascinating, especially since it was that fights

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the court which in October issued a warrant to surveile
Carter Page, an American citizen who hadn't have been accused
of any wrongdoing, to spy on him, based largely on
claims in a dacier which no one has verified at
this point, put together by a foreign asset who is
paid by the Hillary Clinton campaign. So, I mean, that

(01:03:08):
whole thing stunk to high heaven already, and now you
throw in the fact that these two FBI agents who
are knee deep and all this nonsense, we're also conspiring
to collude with the judge on that court at the
same time. I just don't know how you can with
a straight face say that we don't need a special
prosecutor to unwind all this and figure out what the
heck was going on speaking about not with a straight face.

(01:03:29):
I spoke earlier today to a friend of mine it
used to be in the intelligence community, and and she
we had a little bit of back and forth because
I was like, you know, this carter Page situation, the guy,
and I don't mean to put him down, but he
seems so clownish, and there have been no charges against him,
and he seems to me to be the wrong the
aggrieved and wronged party here. Yet the entire Democrat justification

(01:03:54):
for utilizing the most impressive, intrusive and there for frightening
surveillance apparatus on the planet against a presidential campaign is
Carter Page, who still do this day? I'm like, what
were the what do they find about carter Page? Shawan?
To me, it just seems like we've gone beyond the

(01:04:14):
realm of this is a serious This is a serious
position for them to hold. That's somehow carter Page justified
all this stuff. No, it's crazy, like Paul Manafford, Fine,
I get it, Rick Gates, I get it. But yet
those aren't the guys they spied on. It was carter Page,
who I don't know, the guy. I've never spoken to him.
He he seems kind of a loon, but he's totally

(01:04:36):
upfront with his policy views. He's like, yeah, I think
the U. S Should change with false and Russia. The
speech he gay, which apparently UH necessitated him being spied on,
was it a venue in an event where Obama had
spoken the year previously and it was all public online.
The idea that they had to spy on this guy
to figure out what he thought, or that he had
somehow been offered a multibillion dollar steak and a Russian

(01:04:57):
energy company. You'd have to be any tunes to actually
buy into that, and yet that's what our federal surveillance
apparatus ostensibly bought into. I also refuse to believe this
this justification for all the things we're talking about that well,
there's more on Page. We just don't know if at
this stage of the game, with everything that has leaked,

(01:05:17):
with everything that has been released officially as well, if
there was something we'd say, oh wow, Carter Page actually
was into some stuff that really did warrant this kind
of attention. I am a d percent sure we would
know about that at this point. Oh yeah, I mean
that that that whole UH surveillance deep state law en
worcement deep State. They leaked like a sieve. Yeah, and

(01:05:39):
I think you're right. If if there were anything to
his background that they could have used to their advantage
to defend their actions, we would have heard about it
on CNN long ago. And just one more thing, Sean
and everyone should go read this piece and the Federalists
and we'll link to it on on buck sex and
dot com. Uh. Do you think we're gonna get some
answers here about Judge Contraris and his relationship? It's struck.

(01:06:00):
Is there a process that you can see in place
right now that may get us what we need here?
I don't know that the judiciary for very good reason.
It's generally kind of resistant to any sort of external pressure. Um.
And especially in his recusal with Twinn that wasn't related
to his fice the duties where you have these fice
the courts set up explicitly by Congress to help them

(01:06:21):
provide oversight. Um. I'll be interested to see how the
judiciary responds. I honestly doubt that they're gonna respond much
at all. But it calls into question the integrity of
the court and the decision making process. They have their Um, so,
I think for their own good and for their own
benefits from the integrity of their system, they should come
forward and actually be honest about the reasons why he

(01:06:42):
was refused. Um. Whether that will happen, I think is
anyone's guest real quick. Sean St. Patrick's day plans are
what in the Davis household? Oh gosh, I don't know it.
We'll take it. We'll take it, you know. I mean,
if you're not dancing around dressed like a leprech con,
that's fine, Sean. We're not gonna be doing that here either.
But you know, saw people get very festive, Sean Davis.
Everybody got a young family man. We're not gonna be

(01:07:04):
doing anything festive. Fair enough. You got to catch up
on some sleep. The Federalist dot com is the site,
Sean Davis, Molly Hemingway. They are the authors. Check it out. Sean,
thank you so much for making the time. Thank you buck.
Today we're gonna be rolling into ah our three coming
up here in just a few minutes. So that's where
things are gonna get spicy. Or St. Patrick's Day is

(01:07:27):
going to be more of a theme, I think because
it is a freestyle stay with me, We'll be right back.

(01:07:47):
I knew this would happen, folks. I knew it was
just a matter of time as soon as you saw
some of the dating apps, because now that's really that's
where they got the pulse of our culture is the
dating apps, right, that's lets you know what's going on
with the kids, with the cool people. You know, when
I say the kids, I mean people in their twenties,
because now I'm in my thirties and it feels like

(01:08:09):
it feels like it's just all a passively behind that dude.
You know, my back hurts, my elbows hurt, everything hurts,
thirty six sore all over the place. I don't even
do anything. You know, some people actually have an excuse.
But anyway, the dating apps they banned people from, as
I said, a few of the dating apps, not all
of them. And I'm sure there's like you know, duck
hunters need Love dot Com. I'm sure there's other dating

(01:08:31):
sites where this is not a problem. But some of them,
if you have any kind of a firearm, you are
you're banned, right or they shut down your account, whatever
it is. They take disciplinary action, with the exception of
people who are law enforcement or military. Thankfully they're not
that dumb. But as I said, what about hunters, you
know people that want, Hey, you know, I'd like to go.

(01:08:52):
I'd like to go shoot some birds, maybe my future
lady love or future um Man love, if you're the
lady that's, or or any combination thereof. Uh want somebody
that will go, you know, go duck hunting to or
go perhaps shoot some grouse with the twenty gauge if
one has the aim and accuracy for such a thing.

(01:09:13):
And sure enough, the anti gun photo fervor has already
spread to the point of absurdity. This is from n
J dot Com New Jersey dot Com. What's up, Jersey
in the house. I feel like you guys should know
you're all welcome here for our St. Patrick's Day festival
in New York City because ours is way more awesome

(01:09:34):
than anything in New Jersey. But we love you New Jersey.
We love you. You're like our cousin that we invite
over on the holidays, and this is one of them
to come to New York and come party with us.
All right, here's what New Jersey dot Com says. Though
a New Jersey school district that allegedly suspended to high
school students this week over a gun photo taken during
during a family visit to a private shooting range. Is

(01:09:57):
facing community backlash and the threat of a law lawsuit
over district policies. The photo of four rifles, ammunition clips,
and a gun duffel bag was shared by one of
the students on the social media app Snapchat with the
caption fun day at the Range. A screen capture of
the image made the rounds among other students and later

(01:10:19):
brought to the attention of Lazy Township High School officials.
Students received a five day in school suspension for violating
the school's policy on weapons possession. You know, I have
adorable photos of me when I'm like twelve years old
with my brothers and my dad and we're out at

(01:10:39):
the range. I think actually in that photo, I think
we might have been gosh, I think it was. I
think it was an Idaho. But we're out of a range,
and you know, we're firing at twenty two. We're not maniacs,
you know. We we don't have twelve year olds fireing
Bazukas or something. You know. It's but we got a
twenty two. It's a little bolt action. What's the big
deal and it's nice time spend with the families, all

(01:11:02):
of you know. But these policies now have become bonkers
because everyone has allowed themselves to get so emotionally wrapped
up in this moment. They're forgetting that one. There's about
sixty million gun owners in the country who are perfectly
law abiding, patriotic. Not only are they okay as neighbors,
you want them as your neighbors. They make the neighborhood safer,

(01:11:25):
and they make the country in the event of tyranny freer.
I know the liberals snicker at that, but it's just true. Uh,
that's something that we need to remind the country, if
I think right now, because when you get kids that
are getting suspended for being at the range with parental supervision,
there's no way that the teachers didn't know that that's
what's going on. But the sure enough the policies in

(01:11:49):
place and how people are getting getting in trouble because
they went to arrange. You have a school district policy now,
and this is I'm sure not just in New Jersey.
You have a school this policy that is punishing kids
for completely legal, legitimate and you would even say family

(01:12:09):
bonding behavior. You know what's next? You know, are are
they gonna start suspending kids that go horseback riding because
it's horse slavery? And Pete is gonna get upset. I mean,
this is just out of control. I knew this would happen.
So the school district is gonna get sued, and it
should get sued. Needs to get rid of this policy.

(01:12:31):
There needs to be some sanity here. Yeah, okay, you
don't want kids that are posting threats or threatening photos.
But a day at the range with your with your
siblings and your parents, that's not threatening. That's like America,
New Jersey. Get with it. We'll be right back. He's

(01:12:59):
back when you out, because when it comes to the
fight for truth, the fuck never stops. Well, the fun
is about to come to a dead end. Who is
the competition next? KGB guy top mother gotta left on
his right leg named Satovski Valentine Dmitrovichakowski here you know him.

(01:13:19):
I gave him a lynch. Hey, father, I ask him,
if I risk my neck for you when I got
a chance to kill englishman? Is your father a ghost?
Do you converse with the Old Mighty in order to
find his equal. An irishman is forced to talk to God. Yes, Father, everything, Okay,

(01:13:44):
I didn't want my God. You got to come by no.
Welcome to our three of the buck Sexton Show, everybody.
That was our little St Patrick's Day montage for all
of you. Something I was thinking about today. We were

(01:14:06):
trying to pull some things together. And by the way,
extra points if anything, you can figure out what all
three of those movies were. All three are well now
two were playing, two are Irish actors, um one is
a don't know, I'm not even getting this right. Actually,

(01:14:27):
well there too. They're supposed to be Irish in the movie,
and the third is obviously Scottish, and then you have
uh whatever, you get the idea. The point is I
I was thinking about the best action movie quotes and
the best stuff you could pull from Irish specific movies.

(01:14:47):
And there's so much more in our pop culture that's uh,
Scottish based than Irish. Is really interesting. And you look
at movies and Joe you know, obviously, uh all the
all the Mike Meyers stuff is from the Austin powers
of Scottish. And then you also have Braveheart Scottish. Although
there's an irishman in it, which I just gave away.

(01:15:08):
I'm giving away all the clips now. Um, you know,
you look through this and the most famous Irish action
actors in at least from what I know, are You
gotta say Pierce Braslon even though he's playing a brit
when he plays James Bond. And then Liam Neeson, who's
also Irish by the way, that's it. People would say

(01:15:29):
Colin Farrell, And I'm just like Colin Farrell ruins movies.
Actually that's his job. His job is to be in
a movie and ruin it, and keep being in movies
and keep ruining them over and over again and keep
getting big movie roles. And you know Dayton Supermodels the
whole thing and ruining the movies. You know, I'm okay
with the guy who's actually good at his job, enjoying
all the fruits of his labor um, but actually don't

(01:15:51):
stink and he's in movie after movie where he is
the worst. So we put a little bit of St
Patrick's day montage it for you. But I really try
to think about it. What who is the great Irish
hero in American pop culture? And if you're thinking about
great characters that are actually Irish and not British or Scottish.

(01:16:12):
So there's room there somewhere. And huh, you don't have
you don't have as much so many different Scottish characters
in our even in the Wonder Woman movie, for example,
in Wonder Woman, the sniper guy Scottish and the whole
thing right, he's not Irish. You don't have as many irishman.
Don't know what's going on with that, all right, So
I hope you're enjoying your St. Patrick's Day weekend as

(01:16:34):
it's getting started, folks, We've got quite a third hour here.
We're gonna be joined by a sunny bunch from the
Washington Free Beacon. He just is talking about Netflix and
all the different shows you can watch. You know, I
love that topic. Lug. It's the third hour, it's a Friday.
We gotta we gotta ease into the weekend a bit.
We also have Emily's a notty joining us in just
a few minutes, and she's going to be talking to

(01:16:54):
you all about what the uh. Some of the stories
that either well some of them are the ones you've missed.
And then also they'll be certainly one story that we
have an update on from her, but she'll and she'll
share with us because we'll ask her what her Saint
Patrick's Day plans are. You know, I feel like people say,
don't say St. Patty's Day, and I want to say,

(01:17:17):
I understand why Patty Wagon is offensive, but I feel
like Irish people, at least Irish Americans. I can't speak
for Irish people. Irish are actually kind of a bunch
of left wing socialists. I know, people don't like the
it's you go, you go to our my friends. I
had a buddy who was, you know, studying an Nowland
for years and he's like, uh, it's not like Irish Americans.
You get a certain you know. Yeah, we got Quinn

(01:17:39):
Is sitting in here, also known as Mike producer. Mike
John is not Irish, but I'm half and you know
what I'm talking about. It's a very different deal. When
you have actual Irish people. They're like, yeah, I love
I love Cuba. They're like, whoa, Yeah, I've recently met
a fellow quinlan um friend of a friend who is
exactly what you just described, and yeah we were not related. Um,

(01:18:03):
you know, they don't really like America. You're like, whoa,
what's up with that. You know, Irish American people were
all like, yeah, bro fighting Irish, Notre Dame, drinking beer,
loving each other America, but of Irish descent. You go
over to Ireland, They're just like, stop appropriating our culture.
You know what I mean, it's really not what It's

(01:18:23):
not what people think it is. You're right on points
exactly the way it is. So you know, this is
this is you live and learn folks, you live in them.
This is like what I spent a summer in Greece,
and I thought I'd be like, oh hey if I
stole paco like uzo and dancing, and I mean there
was plenty of that, but there's also a lot of
like America ruined our country with that coup back in
the day or whatever, and they still protest about it.

(01:18:45):
I'm like, guys, get it together, why don't you pay
some taxes. I'm just saying. I'm just saying it's you know, Unfortunately,
I don't think I think Team Buck Greek American is
a strong force. I don't think Team Buck Greece is
that strong. So I think we're okay there because a
lot of the Greeks that are like, hey, I want
to make a lot of money and be successful and

(01:19:05):
you know, better future of my children. They are like,
we're gonna leave this Teloponnese where no one really pays access. Um.
So there's so there's that, but a lot of anti
American graffiti in Greece. So I've got a random story
for to throw in the mix here before we get
our friend Emily's nadi on. I don't know if you've
seen this or not, but there's a sheriff who is

(01:19:25):
I believe he's yeah, based on a oh no, Alabama.
I was gonna say, Georgia, who don't worry, Georgia, You're good, Alabama.
This is on you. Sheriff defends self after public outrage
over seven forty dollar beach house pocketing money from innate
food fund. You gotta love this dude. This guy figured
out he's the uh. I don't know how to say

(01:19:47):
this Etowah or Edawah. I don't know e t o
w a H, but the let's say Edowah. Edowa County
Sheriff Todd Entrikin is like, the law says that whatever
money that is not used to feed inmates can be
used for the sheriff's purposes. So he took that to
be you know, I feel like a lot of people
would think, yeah, you know, ballistic inserts for vests and

(01:20:10):
like additional canine units and you know things like that.
You know, a police memorial fun, that's where you think
the money would go. No, he bought a almost million
dollar beach house three quarters of million dollars. And what
I love about this guy you almost have to respect
the hustle and just the shamelessness. He was like, yeah,
that's what the law says. I'm I'm not apologizing for it.

(01:20:33):
This guy's got real estate assets. He makes ninety dollars
a year, it's public record. He's got real estate assets
in the in the millions. He owns one point seven
million dollars of real estate and when asked about this,
including uh, multiple homes, and he was like, yeah, that's right, son,
that's what the law says. And what he's not back.

(01:20:56):
Usually public officials where they have something like this happened,
they're kind of like like maybe we should like I
will make restitution or no. No, this guy's like, that's
what the law says. You chumps didn't change the law.
So Papa needs a new beach house. And that's it. So,
you know, Usually I see these stories of public officials
engaging corruption or graft or whatever, and I'm like, how

(01:21:17):
dare you, sir? And this one I'm trying, like, Wow,
this guy's a straight up hustler. He's like, that's what
the law says. I want a beach house. I want
to sit out there drinking homemade kai burns and being
fancies Alabama Sheriff. This guy's this guy's got some good taste.
He's got almost some you know, three quarters of a
million dollars beach house. That sounds pretty nice, but it
just goes to show you, folks, you all got you.

(01:21:39):
I almost went into it, y'all. There by accident appropriate
so much am Irish appropriating, Southern appropriating, you know, gosh,
and if I start doing an accent, people be like,
you suit your figure from Manhattan. They don't have accents,
so I can't appropriate anything right now. Anyway, this Sheriff's
obviously bad. What he did. He probably is taking food
out of the out of prisoners. At some level, we're

(01:22:01):
making a crappier food. But apparently he legally can do it,
which is pretty amazing, all right, we got more to
stay with me, everybody. It's been quite a week in

(01:22:29):
the news cycle, and there's some stories that we want
to follow up on or that we haven't even gotten
a chance to talk to you about yet. And for
that we are joined by our friend Emily's A Nati.
She is a senior editor at Daily wire dot Com.
You could follow her on the Twitter at e. M
Zanati Mrs a Nati. Hey, what's up. It's good. It's good,

(01:22:56):
so so happy for to Happy St. Patrick's Day. You're
in Chicago. I am. This is like our Nashville, this
is our big day. So I've got to tell you something.
Savannah Georgia was talking a little smack when I was
down there about a week ago. They claim to have
the second biggest St. Patrick's Day celebration in the country.
And I don't even have the heart to ask is
it after Chicago or after New York? Because if it's

(01:23:19):
after New York, which I'm assuming it is, it means
they think they're beaten out the Windy City. I'm gonna
have to go live. Yeah, I will venture downtown to
to show Savannah Georgia how much of a disaster Chicago is.
I mean, the river literally gets turned green, right right,
that's the first order of business. Tomorrow At eight thirty

(01:23:40):
in the morning, they pour some stuff in the river
that turns it green, and then we have an endless
parade and then everyone goes up to Wrigley Fields and
just get drunk for the rest of the night. Is
there is there Irish? I should probably know this, considering
I'm roughly half Irish in terms of background. Is there
Irish cuisine? I what do you we got? Producer Mike

(01:24:03):
looking at me, saying, yes, what's Irish cuisine? Dude? What
do we got now? Emily, do you know of any
Irish cuisine? Yeah? I mean I've had Irish breakfast, which
is like sausage and eggs and corn beef and cabbage obviously.
Oh yeah, that's right, corned beef. All right. That's their
that's their contribution to the culinary world. Take it alright? Alright,

(01:24:24):
well let's get into the Okay, Oh, this story broke
my heart this week, the dog on the plane. Yeah,
what's the latest on this? I saw somebody see I
said right when it broke that the that the airline
is it attendant or we don't say steward dress anymore, right, attendant? Yes,

(01:24:45):
thank you, the flight attendant. I was gonna say airline attendant.
The flight attendant, uh said she or rather we were
told by reporting that she knew it was a dog
put up there. Anyway to me that could be an
animal cruelty case. Do we have any updates on this?
We don't, other than the United has now apologized and
the actual owners of the dog have spoken out saying

(01:25:06):
that they told that the stewardess or a flight attendant
that it was definitely a dog. You could hear the
dog that when they put the dog into the overhead
compartments that the dog barked for about an hour straight.
So it seems strange to you that now United is
coming back and saying this was all a tragic accident
and her slight attendant had no idea there was a
dog in the bag. She just saw the bag that

(01:25:29):
didn't fit under the seat. It's it's a bizarre story,
and it keeps getting weirder because it sounds like this
dog really wanted out, and nobody on the plane seemed
to say anything. Yeah, I'm somebody who you know any
any cruelty to dogs? And I just want I just
want to fight someone. I get very very angry about it.
And when I'm told that there's or when I'm reading

(01:25:50):
that there was a dog that was making noise to
get out of there, I feel like the stewardess. I'm sorry,
I didn't actually mean that. I feel like the airline
attendant must have no one and figured, well, he's got
enough air up there. Who cares? Which is terrible? Which
is awful? Yeah, which is awful. And it is a
airless compartment. It is not served by the planes material

(01:26:11):
so you just you can't breathe if you're locked into
a compartment that's typically meant for baggage. Those dogs. Are
you paid to put your dog or cat in their
soft carrier under the seat in front of you. So
it's kind of shocking that an airline attendant that would
know these rules and know that United has asked people
to pay that extra hundred and twenty five dollars to

(01:26:32):
bring your pet on board, would still manage to do this.
It's it's scary, but United actually has a horrible track
record when it comes to animals. Since this time last year,
something like twenty four animals have died on board planes,
and eighteen of those animals have been on United. So
if you have a dog or cat, you may want

(01:26:53):
to think about flying United. Before you fly United, come
fly the Soviet Union. Fly United. That's the way. That's
what they should call it, something like that. You know
it's it's the worst. I really can not. I'm trash
United left variety, you know what, they deserve it all right,
but let's move on to one more. Actually got a
couple more here we have the snake whisperer is no more.

(01:27:14):
Emily tell us what happened? Read So apparently in Malaysia
there are so many snakes, so many king cobras, which
are the world's most deadly snake, so many of these
that they have snake whispers attached to fire departments, so
that when you find a king cobra in your backyard,
you actually have to call this person. I obviously am
never moving to Malaysia. I don't know if there was

(01:27:35):
any reason to move to Malaysia, but that is not
happening now. This guy was phoned in to take care
of a snake got bit. He is the world foremost
snake handler. He was even on Malaysia's got Talent or
America's got talent one of those to showcase his snake handling,
and he got bit and sadly he passed away yesterday.

(01:27:56):
He was the world's foremost snake charmer. I feel like
this reminds me a little bit of the the guy
who with the Australian what's his name, Steve, you know
Hunter and then he finally got taken out by a stingwright.
It's like, if you're around very dangerous animals enough, I

(01:28:17):
don't care how much expertise you have, they are animals,
you will sneeze and get bitten. I mean, something will happen.
And the funny thing about Steve Irwin was that he
actually died swimming with animals that are not particularly dangerous,
like sting rays are dangerous, but it's very rare to
get hit by one like that. And he just pressed

(01:28:37):
his luck one too many things. And this was the
same thing in the A order, which was also highly unlucky.
As these things go, um okay, so onto something else.
Uh A. You've got a lot of coverage of adult
film stars, as they are sometimes referred to or on
CNN constantly now porn stars. That's the way they always

(01:28:59):
refer to the an adult film star was ordering a
pizza from Dominoes and then things got weird. Well I mean,
I guess it got weird for real life, but it
sort of sounds like what would happen in one of
her movies. I don't know, I've never seen one. I
just I you know, I've heard thing. So the delivery
driver gave her her pizza, then a couple of hours later,

(01:29:22):
decided to text her and offered her two hundred dollars
to perform for him. He stole her information off of
one of the pizza box ordering forms, kept her receipt,
and then texted her later on like it was no
big deal. And can we just tell everybody at home
listening to this Emily as they're getting ready for their

(01:29:43):
Friday evenings, are already off on their weekends. What was
the single greatest part of the whole story that Dominoes
was involved in? Here, Dominoes offered for her trouble to
give her a free order of cinnamon Stix. This re
in the deal. This woman claimed she was literally proposition

(01:30:03):
for money by the delivery guy and which she called
a complaint. The manager offered her an order of cinnamon sticks, folks,
So customer customer service propositions, Yeah, if you are propositions
by your Domino's delivery driver, do have sex for money?
The best you're going to do from Domino's is a
free dessert before we let you go off onto your weekend. Emily,

(01:30:26):
We're assuming you're gonna have a more fun answer to
this question than our last guest, Sean Davis when we
love from the Federalists, who basically was like partying St. Patrick's.
Get out of here. I've got things to write. What
are you doing? What is the Nazi household up to
for St. Patrick's Day? You know we're in Chicago. We
have no choice. We're going to have to go get
some green beer. At some points, I I get caught

(01:30:47):
up in the middle of it. I have red hair,
so obviously this is my holiday, regardless of whether I
am at all Irish according to twenty three and me.
So I'm definitely going to get some green beer. Be
careful because you know people that have kissed me I'm Irish,
buttons on. It's a microaggression and cultural appropriation. It is cultural.
I'm gonna have to carry my DNA results with me

(01:31:09):
so that I am not accused of cultural appropriation, and
you're better than Elizabeth Warren. But we already knew that
Emily's a naughty everybody. Great to have her from the
Daily Wire. Emily, have a fantastic weekend and enjoy your St.
Patrick's Day. Thank you to alright, team, we're going to
roll into a break. We've got so much more this hour.
Stay with us and we'll be right back. He's holding

(01:31:39):
the line for America Buck Sex in his back. Welcome
back team, our three of the buck Sex and show
in effect here, I often say to you all that
I'm going to spend my weekend watching Netflix or Netflix
and Amazon and perhaps HBO, because that is what I do,
because I am not as fun and interesting as I

(01:32:00):
should probably be. Nonetheless, Ms Molly still likes me, and
there's still things to discuss. For those of us who
watch a lot of television, are we in fact in
a golden age of TV? We've got somebody who's got
expertise on this, and that he has written a major
piece for the Weekly Standard on its sunny Bunch joins
us now he is the executive editor of the Washington

(01:32:22):
Free Beacon. He's got a piece though in the weekly
Standard overload, will any shows from the golden age of
TV and your Sonny, thank you for joining us? Yeah,
thanks carrying me on? Alright, So, I often say that
I feel like the state of cinema right now is
borderline crap. But the state of TV shows is so
incredible that it's like all over the place. You can't
even keep up with it. What say you, sir, Well,

(01:32:44):
this is the problem, right, is that you can't actually
keep up with it. There's so much good TV out there,
you know. One of the one of the headlines I
proposed for this piece was fifty seven thousand channels and
everything on right, a play on the old Bruce Springsteening
song fifty seven channels and nothing on. Like, the idea
here is we have so much good too, great TV

(01:33:05):
mostly good. There's a lot of kind of mediocre middle
that we can we can discuss the difference between the
great and the good later, but the you know, the
the idea here is, there's just so much to watch
that what what's going to end up lasting? Right? T
V TV is a TV and all art really is
a is a What lasts is what you can read

(01:33:26):
over and over again. What you can share with other
people over and over again, movies that you can watch
time and again. A TV show, even a great TV show,
you know, like The Sopranos, probably my favorite TV show
of the last twenty years. Uh, sitting down to rewatch that,
that's the ninety investment. Who has time for that? So
the idea of this pieces. Look, there's a lot of stuff.
Uh what does it mean to even form a canon

(01:33:49):
of great art? And can you form a canon of
great TV? I just I'm not a dent short as possible.
What are the greatest five TV shows of the last
twenty years? Since you have obviously done the deep dive
in the research here. Uh, well, I mean, what would
my five personal favorites be. It's a it's a slightly

(01:34:09):
different question, right, but I would I would go with, uh,
the Sopranos, which I just mentioned, The Shield, which is
a is a great show that was on effects. It
kind of, in my opinion, it kind of really kicked
off this boom of great TV shows. It was the
first of the big basic cable shows to to reach
uh not a large audience, but a but an important
audience and influential audience. UM, I would say The Simpsons

(01:34:33):
is probably one of one of my one of my
five favorite TV shows, uh, Deadwood. Deadwood, I think is
if I was going to pick one show that will
end up lasting, it would probably be Deadwood. And we
can discuss why in a sec. But the fifth show
I would go with the comedy. I would go with,
let's say Veep. I love Veep. Interesting. You don't have

(01:34:57):
the the usual Breaking Bad or the Wire on the list. Well,
you know, I like the Wire, but I don't love it, uh,
and I like Breaking Back a lot. I think Breaking
Bad is one of these shows that kind of picked
up steam as it went. And one of the reasons
that did this, and I kind of discussed this in
the piece a little bit, is because of the way
streaming helped save it and bring it to a bigger audience.

(01:35:20):
You know, if if you look at the evolution of
TV over the last twenty years or so, you see
a medium that has grown by picking up new distribution
methods and and when you when you're looking at say
pay cable, you have the Sopranos, those shows. But then
the expansion of basic cable was a big one, bringing
in f X and bringing in a m C where

(01:35:41):
you kind of uh, you you created you had a
much wider audience base because these channels were on so
many networks or there were in so many uh so
many homes and people didn't have to pay extra for them.
They were just on the basic cable packages. And then streaming,
of course, you know streaming Netflix and Amazon Prime. These
are the are two massively popular services that are in

(01:36:02):
hundreds of millions of homes, and uh they have pioneered
kind of a new distribution model. Netflix in particular. You know,
the thing about Netflix is that they don't just release
a new show every couple of weeks. They released a
new show and they released all the episodes of that
show at once, and that has drastically changed how people
watch TV. I mean this, this whole idea of binging.

(01:36:24):
You know, when is binging ever been a good thing,
But now it is. It's just kind of taken for
granted that you binge watch a TV show and you
that's how you catch up with it, That's how you
kind of keep in touch with the culture. That's how
you know what to talk about at the water cooler.
Sonny Bonch, the executive editor of the Washington Free Beacon,
thank you so much for joining us, sir. Yeah, thanks
turning me on. Alright, team, we're rolling too a break,

(01:36:44):
will be right back. Well. Tomorrow is St Patrick's Day,
my friends, and I hope you've got some fun plans.

(01:37:05):
Perhaps you're going to drink some beer with green food
coloring in it, and hopefully you won't be walking through
too much of what was formerly beer with food coloring
in it in the streets, although people tend to get
a little sloppy on St. Patrick's Day in some places,
as you know. And there's finally, ah, there's finally some
pushback against the cultural appropriation. Uh and and it turns

(01:37:29):
out that yeah, there aren't in fact any lepri cons.
That's not a real thing that's out there. So maybe
maybe we should stop associating on with leprecons and fairies
and sprites and other things. I don't know. Personally, I
kind of like it. Then again, there's quite a separation
between actual Irish people and now the generations of Americans

(01:37:50):
that at one point came from Irish or some mixed
stock like me. So I hope you've got some fun
plans tomorrow. I'm gonna be laying low if I can
because I am right on the parade route. My apartment
is going to be rocking. I mean, the windows are
going to be rattled with the sounds of the bagpipers

(01:38:11):
that are out there, and there's no escape for me.
So I might as well just put on a kilt
and get into it. So with that, I will now
turn our attention to what you have to say, my
friends with some roll call team Buck, it's time for

(01:38:32):
roll call. I really do feel like we're looking over
Emerald Green Fields and all the rest of it the
moment that bagpipes has come up. But like I've said, okay, yeah,
there we go, it's enough. Bagpipes are amazing for about
thirty seconds. I originally said five minutes, and people like
that's way too long, and then I rethought, you know,
bagpipes are probably something you want for about thirty seconds.

(01:38:56):
I think that's fair. So now let's it into it.
Brian writes the following. By the way, if you want
to be a part of roll Call Facebook dot com
slash buck Sexton, make sure you follow the page, by
the way, and then you can send me your thoughts. There.
All right, Brian, he's up first here, He writes, savor
the Flavor. Nice Tommy Boy reference, great show, love the

(01:39:19):
deep dive into the mind of the social justice warrior. Well, Brian,
thank you so much. I do a lot of research
throughout the day and and my mission is to always
bring you things as much as I can that you
won't hear anywhere else. And there are things that you
want to hear, because I know that you've got a
lot of options out there for people to give you
their opinions. I try to do more research than all

(01:39:40):
the rest of them and try to be more original
than most of them. If well, I'll just say most
of them. So thank you very much for joining the show.
And yes, that was Savor the Flavor was a very
subtle Tommy Boy reference I've made yesterday on the show
about being wrong. Turns out, by the way, that I
gotta give producer Mike a code read because Fox News
reported that McCabe's birthday is in fact this Sunday. That

(01:40:04):
was the report from Fox News, Which is why he
because when he hits fifty, that's when he can retire.
It's an age it's an age restriction, so which, by
the way, it seems pretty young to retire, right I'm
hoping when I'm fifty that I'm gonna be hitting my
max bench press. I'm not looking to retire at fifty fifty.
It's like I'm just gonna be getting started, like the

(01:40:24):
next chapter of Buck. Alright, Jason is next up here.
He writes, Oh wow, he took a photo of the
Blue Cat Lodge, which is featured in which is featured
in the show Ozark. And it turns out it's a
real place, which is pretty cool. Did not did not
know that? Well, thank you very much. Al Right, Next

(01:40:46):
up here, Uh, we have Mark, who writes, when I
was in high school, I had a teacher named Mary
Elizabeth Sexton, and she was fantastic. She was one of
the nicest people you've ever met. After I graduated, I
was in the Marines. I stopped by to visit her
a couple of times when I was home on leave.
I've wondered many times what happened to her. I'm an
old guy, graduated high school in sixty one, so she

(01:41:08):
would probably be eight ish if still with us. I
wonder if she is a relative of yours, and if so,
could you tell me a little bit about her. Here
is a picture she seems like a very nice lady, Mark.
I cannot say that I'm aware of any relations. Sexton
is an occupational surname which I think a lot of

(01:41:28):
people are surprised when they hear a sexton as the
person who collects money in a church. He's the the
lay person who works in a church. Uh digs the
graves in fact, so I'm like grave digger. You know
you can get like all the flames coming out of
the side of my giant four by four grave digger.
Isn't that a thing? Right that? Yeah, that's one of those,

(01:41:51):
isn't it? Bigfoot and great monster trucks. That's not think enough?
Thank you, Monster truck rallies Sexton the grave digger. Uh
so yeah, there you go. But we also collect the
money and are generally hopefully nice people to just say
hi to in the church. That's what sextons are. So
I'm affiliated with the church my friends in some way.
All right, Um, next up here? Oh wow, we got

(01:42:14):
so many, so many messages coming in. Thank you all.
I really appreciate them. I will read all of them
even if I don't. If it doesn't make it on
air today, do not fret. There will be more opportunities
and I will certainly read them. And this guy t
J gets a huge high five because he actually has
a shields high T shirt on in his Facebook photo
and also with his very lovely wife. I'm I'm assuming

(01:42:36):
could be girlfriend, but his wife, uh, and that makes me.
That reminds me we're gonna be revamping and reworking on
merchandise in the Team Bucks store. I've actually just been
talking today to our design team about that we're gonna
make some really cool stuff for and maybe even partner
up with some folks to so really, really Nito, I

(01:42:57):
just said, NTO, that's the first really hip hip things
in the team Buck store. So, t J wrights Buck,
you're so far out of your game trying to talk
about cattle. Steer equals full grown mail that was castrated
as a calf. Cows, while usually a term for cattle,
is specifically a female. On that note, it's not uncommon

(01:43:19):
to have Rocky Mountain oyster festivals out here in the Midwest.
Rocky Mountain oysters are actually not bad. I think I
put them above chicken gizzards. Well, thank you for schooling
me on steer. I will be among the first to
admit I will be the first to admit that I
do not know anything about livestock, so we do not
come across a lot of that here in Manhattan, where

(01:43:43):
I grew up. Um next up here, Bill, Bill Wrights,
Buck Love the show. Can you give us the progressive
mentality article link once more tonight? Please seem to perfectly
encompass the left and their approach to debate shields high. Bill. Absolutely, Lee,
and you are very helpful. Reminder, I forgot to tweet
that out last night. I'll share it with you. The

(01:44:04):
Psychology of Progressive Hostility producer Mike. We gotta put that
up on buck sex and dot com and also on
Facebook so everyone can read it because I went through
it in some detail last night on the show. Uh,
let's see what else we have here, Kirk, He writes Buck,
thanks for speaking out on Stephen Hawking. Yes, he was

(01:44:26):
brilliant and showed incredible courage persevering through a l s. However,
for the left to cast him as the genius of
our time regarding astrophysics and the universe is irresponsible. Then again,
what's new? I find one of the greatest minds in
astrophysics is actually a Jesuit priest father Robert Spitzer. He
combines faith and reason. He discusses the expanding universe theory,

(01:44:49):
which even most atheistic scientists are on board with. Simply put,
if the universe is expanding constantly, there has to be
a beginning. You hear nothing about this in the mainstream
because it challenges this sacred big bang. Thanks for speaking
up again where it counts. Kirk from Houston, Will Kirk,
thank you very much. I'm glad you appreciated me taking
a little bit of a diversion or digression into Hawking.

(01:45:12):
And like I said, I I am somebody who you
I would not be able to help my future children
with their high school geometry homework, but I do read
and think a lot about these things. And Hawking has
become or became more a media celebrity than a scientist
in a lot of ways. All right, here we go.

(01:45:32):
Whoa uh, Jackie writes Buck Love your show, been with
you many years now, just listening to last night's show,
and I have to speak up. I have a friend
who's a flight attendant and always asked her the other
side of the story. There's always another side. For the
most part, the airlines are not the ones handing down
the ridiculous rules and regulations that government is. No, you're you're,

(01:45:53):
I I get it. I know the f a A.
Absolutely true. And I'm glad that Jackie is pointing this
out because while we come down really hard on the airlines,
the really stupid regulations, the ones that are like, don't
use your kindle during takeoff because it's gonna interfere with
our systems, which is that was the rule for years.
They finally got rid of it because it was so stupid.

(01:46:14):
But that comes from the uh, the f A A.
And so the f A should get its fair share
of hostility as well. And Jackie writes that she has
two carpet sharks donut dournut turnut turnut, turnut, turnut turnut
carpet sharks. Um check out Caruso the celebrity docks and
on Facebook he is quite the celebrity. Love my doxies.

(01:46:35):
Keep up the good work, Thank you, Jackie. And uh,
you know, I'm I'm fond of carpet sharks as long
as they don't try to eat me. It's when they
try to eat me then I get a little sad. Uh. So, oh,
we've got an inner. We've got one International team Buck,
and then I got to close up the Freedom Hunt
for the weekend and go, I'm gonna pretend like I'm
gonna party over St. Patty's Day and drink I'm such

(01:46:55):
a teetotler man, I'm gonna at least producer Mike's wearing
a green shirt. Um, I got nothing on, although I
wore my green tie today on Trish Reagan's show on
Fox New Fox Business and during Outnumbered Rocket of green
tie with Shamrocks on it. No less, that's right, that's
like plus three points for Ireland and Sarah Huckaby Sanders

(01:47:17):
in the press conference today also very pleasant shade of green. Alright,
Hannah from Israel is right, and I love the International
team Buck. When you mentioned on Wednesday's show that your
podcast was good for a commute, I said, yes, out loud.
I commute once a week from across Israel from the
north to the middle of the country to visit family.
It's a two and a half hour drive each way,

(01:47:37):
and your podcast makes me look forward to the time
in the car you make it could be a very
unpleasant trip something I actually look forward to. Thank you well, Hannah,
thank you very much. That's a very kind note. And
it is my honor and privilege to be able to
keep you company as you are traversing the great state
of Israel or the country thereof. Uh, so, thank you

(01:48:00):
so much, everybody. I've just realized now I've gotta shut
down the Freedom Hunt for the day, but we'll be
back on Monday and every day next week. We've got
some exciting stuff already in the works. I'm gonna be
very mean and make producer Mike work on things all
weekend that are gonna make the show sound even cooler.
But he's he's down because I'm gonna send him some
guinness so I'll have something to to help him drown
the sorrows. And John, make sure that you come up

(01:48:23):
rested and ready. You're in every day next week, my friend,
Happy St. Patty's Day to the crew here. I'm sorry St.
Patrick's Day, but I'm irish. I can say whatever I want.
Happy St. Patrick's Day to all of you at home,
and uh that's how that's what we're gonna do it.
Oh Um, I thought I had an announcement, but I
actually don't. Basically, go on Facebook, go on Twitter, follow me,
there if you're not already, semi thoughts for the show

(01:48:45):
going forward, and uh, have a great holiday weekend. Everybody
celebrating whatever way you see fit. If that includes just
sort of doing what you always do and not paying
attention to this celebration of Irish American nous, well that's
fine too. See you on Monday shoot time.
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