Trump Upgrade

The departure of Rex Tillerson, Mike Pompeo arrives. The problem California doesn't recognize. The Pennsylvania congressional race. What's going on in South Africa? Buck interviews Salena Zito and Fred Fleitz.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Mr Garbutschof teared down this wall. Either you're with us
or you were with the terrorists. If you've got healthcare already,
then you can keep your plan. If you're satisfied with
Trump is not president of the United States, take it
to a bank. Together, we will make America great again.

(00:34):
It's what you've been waiting for all day. The Buck
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Buck Sexton. You'll fire, you fired, your fire. You're fired,

(00:56):
you fired, You're fired. You'll fired, ye fire, and now
you can say you're fired fired. I was wondering what
you would say to President Obama, you're fired. Welcome to
the Buck Sex and show everybody Trump dropping some pink

(01:20):
slips today or at least, well at least a couple
of them. You're fired. Uh Rex Tillerson. That's how that
went down. Not surprising to me at all, although I'm
not I'm not in the anti Tillerson camp. I thought
that he was a pretty He seemed pretty confident to me,
and he certainly would be sitting seating at the seat

(01:42):
at the adults table within the administration. He's got a
guy with considerable experience, but he's out. As you know,
I'm sure you've heard some folks talking about today. Well,
we'll dig into that a bit. You have the the
of Gina Haspell nominated as the CIA's first female director.
You're got the first female director of the CIA, assuming
that all goes through, and Pompeio, Mike Pompeo, the CIA Director,

(02:08):
is going to head over to the State Department to
run things at Foggy Bottom. If they thought that things
were a little rocky with Rex in charge, who, as
I have said, does remind me of the old weather
tough Texan sheriff and pretty much every Western I've ever seen. Uh,
if they thought that Rex was rough, just wait till

(02:28):
they get a load of Pompeo. And then there's some
other guy who was uh oh, John McEntee, the former
White House assistant. He was somebody was with Trump a lot.
He's one of these guys who, if you're not covering
the White House, I feel like it doesn't really get
all that much, all that much attention, or he doesn't
get all that much attention. But he's out for security

(02:51):
clearance reasons, but he's getting a lot of attention. Now.
I will say this, I think that John Kelly, the
White House Chief of Staff, finally decided that, you know,
you know, how we deal with all the all the
riff raff in the White House and get everyone fall online.
No more passes on security clearance stuff because there's no
oh but I know so and so and I'm friends

(03:12):
with so and so way around that stuff. Really unless
you are the president, unless you're you are the elected official,
because then the premise becomes the people have given you
their trust and you get access to classified there's no
there's no end runs or shortcuts on those investigations for
administration officials. And I think that Kelly did the right
thing by saying are enough is enough? And if you

(03:35):
if you can't get clearance, you shouldn't be around classified
material and you shouldn't be in positions of such trust.
And so you just cleaned it out a bit. Look,
I think I'm getting a little ahead of myself here
with uh where I wanted to go, because I was
hoping to switch into the talk at the Wall, which
we're gonna do in a second. But I think this
is actually an upgrade for the administration, at least on

(03:56):
the secretary of State side. You need someone align with you,
and Peo is a ligne with Trump. You need someone
who's gonna fight for you and fight for your agenda.
That's Pompeo, you know, Rex, good guys, smart guy, not
on board for some important stuff, not on board for Iran,
different on Paris climate accord, and doesn't look like he

(04:17):
was on board North Korea or tariffs either. So how
are you going to be the president secretary of state
if you're not really if you're not really going to
be the person that believes in these policies, believes in
what the president trying to accomplished. But I want to
take a step back from that for a second. Everyone
gets all excited about talking about personnel. We've got some
other news to hit on, including the Pennsylvania congressional race

(04:41):
between Lamb and Saccone. Why is it shouldn't it be
You're you're basically a Philly guy Scone, right, I mean,
why do they that's the Italian should be Saccone, but
they call it Secone. I never know, you know, man,
it's uh, You've gotta I feel like I say Italian
names wrong these days because did you americanize? Did you
keep it? It's like a lot of US Irish folks.

(05:03):
By the way, you'll notice i'mhearing green today. You're on
radio at home, folks, so you don't know this, but
I'm wearing a green. It's right luck of the Irish,
and we we got rid of the o's in front
of most of our names. None on everybody like O'Reilly factor.
But I'm pretty sure at one point I was I
come from oh Hikey's. I'm pretty sure. Uh, I should
check on that one before I say that would allow,

(05:23):
but I think so. Nonetheless, Sacconi versus Lamb, I just
did it, Saccone versus Lamb. That's gonna be a race
where tonight it will be decided as we are, or
the early results will coming as we're on air. I
don't think. I don't think we're gonna be able to
tell you who wins tonight, although we'll see if for
some reason it was a landslide one or the other,
which would be completely contra the polling that we've seen,

(05:47):
we'll let you know. So oh. Biden traveled to Pennsylvania
to support Connor Lamb Democrats are really they're trying to
make a thing of this one. It's all for the narrative, folks.
You gotta remember it's one congressional seat and there's a
lot of members of Congress running around, which is important
for you to remember because you can feel a little
less terrified for our future when you hear what some

(06:08):
of those bozos and Congress had to say. You're like, well,
at least there's a lot of them. No one member
of Congress really has that much power been speak of
the House. There's some roles that have a little bit
of an elevated profile. But anyway, we got that pennsylvani
your race, and we will we'll see what we can
tell you about that. Solena Zito will be joining later
to discuss She is uh former columns for the Pittsburgh Tribune.

(06:30):
I mean she knows this area backwards and forward, so
she'll be really insightful on it. And we also have
Fred Flights joining, like me, a former CIA analysts, my
my brother from Langley, Fred Flights will be joining talk
about North Korea and his sense of that. Not much
new news on North creator Day, so or we're gonna

(06:50):
get into the analysis of it with Fred later on,
but I don't have anything breaking on it. So with
all that, I'm gonna return to the issue of the
personnel changes, probably later on the hour because I wanted
to move, although I had to start with it so
we could play that you're fired clips. And it is
funny now to me at least, that every time that
you have one of these departures that is forced, the

(07:13):
president is in a position where we can all remember
that he was, in fact the guy most famous for
saying you fired. I know people say you're fired, but
I like saying it that way, the little Queen's rashness,
little little New York style. You fired. That's how we
do it here. So with all that, we can get
into the wall. You want to talk policy, you want

(07:35):
to talk what's going to change the game and change
the discussion. Trump was out in California today. I'm pretty
sure there was like a two person fundraiser too, you know,
as one does. But he was checking out the wall
literally pieces of what would be the future wall. And
he's also taking on the sanctuary city policies of California,

(07:58):
specifically Californias become the front line of the fight against
illegal immigration because California does. This is what's fundamental to
this discussion. The state of California does not see illegal
immigration it's a problem. It sees it as a reality
to be managed and to even be exploited as necessary

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and as is helpful to democrats and status. But they
don't see it as a problem that needs to stop.
They are encouraging it. We don't have in California, and
this is true in some other states too, but it's
most true in California. We don't have a situation where
the federal government and the state government differ on how

(08:44):
best to achieve the same ends, which in this case
would be stopping illegal immigration and enforcing immigration laws when
it comes to illegals. No, the state government of California
and the federal government is at a an impasse. They
want fundamentally different things. They are working at cross purposes.

(09:08):
They are against each other on this, and that's why
this is so politically combustible. It's not like they're saying, well,
we want this and you want this, but we're trying
to do it in different ways. We want to slow down,
stop and prohibit illegal immigration, and they want to continue it.

(09:29):
And just manage it. They see it as something to
be managed. I'm not even sure you could say it's
a problem to be managed. They they encourage. They think
the legals are necessary for the economy, necessary for the votes,
necessary for the future of the state of California. At
least that's what the elected I know a lot of
you in California, like Buck, that's not what I think.
But that is what the Democrat Party and the left

(09:49):
in California have signed on for. And that's why Trump
out at the wall today was so important. Like for example,
when he's and this, you don't have a wall system,
and we're gonna have We're not gonna have a country.
There's a lot of problems in Mexico. They have a
lot of problems over there, and they have the cartels

(10:12):
and the cartels. We're fighting the cartels. So we're fighting
them hard. Nobody ever fought him like we fought him.
I mean, we fight them hard. But the fact is,
if you don't have a wall system, it would be
bedlum I imagine it's very hard to control a just
personnel there. It's a combination of all. So we'll look
at it. The walls where you have some three really
some sea through capability. If you don't have some sea

(10:35):
through it's a problem. So we'll take a look up here,
President saying you need a wall. Isn't it noteworthy that
as he's out in California and San Diego, he is
in fact in a place that has a wall, and
that has dramatically improved the ability of border patrol to

(10:55):
do their jobs. It has made it easier re border
patrol to secure the San Diego sector of the world.
No one saying it's perfect, but no security measure is perfect.
There is no such thing. People will say, oh, well
they'll get a they'll get a ladder, or they'll dig
a tunnel. Well yeah, but that doesn't stop anyone else

(11:15):
from building walls for any number of reasons. It's not
supposed to be a cure all. It is supposed to
be an impediment. And that is obviously what a wall
is all about. You know, it doesn't even get much
attention right now, but the most by a recent statistical analysis.
I forget who did it, so I don't want to
throw that out on the air, but we'll figure it out.

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The most dangerous city in the world per capita, right
now for murders is it was Warez for a little while,
and I think then it moved down into Central America
and now you know, Caracas and Venezuela is definitely trying
to get to the top spot. But the most dangested
in the world as of last month per capita was Cabo.

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Those of you who are familiar with the geography know
that Bo is on the tip of the Baja Peninsula
and they're Los Cabos. The cities that are there used
to be and still are actually, I think a pretty
popular tourist destination, which is amazing. I checked it out.
I was just curious, what's it like you try to
go to Los Cabos now are there? Yeah, they're still

(12:18):
eight night hotel rooms there and people are still going,
I suppose. But they have the highest murder ra per
capita of any city in the world. Why is that,
you say, Well, because of the cartels, Because the Sinaloa
Cartel and some of these other cartels, the Nuevo Generation Cartel,
um Nuevo Jalisco Generation Cartel and some of these others

(12:39):
are all fighting it out for supremacy. But the worst
part of the border right now for crossings is not
the San Diego secret, despite the fact that Baja the peninsula,
which I know is very long, but is home to
some really nasty cartel violence. No, no, it's it's in
other places along the border. You know, they've even this

(12:59):
is people don't see nearly enough of of this reporting. Acapulco,
which is a internationally known beach resort I believe, has
had to deploy the military in Mexico to its beaches,
not even to protect tourists, just to protect locals who
want to go to the beach. They have marines, Mexican

(13:20):
marines who have to go to the beach that people
are able to go without fear of being shot or kidnapped.
That is right across our border, folks, that kind of violence.
And you know, when you start to look at what
we could do to make things easier for us and
easier for our Mexican counterparts, you know that's a part
of this too. I actually want a prosperous Mexico. I

(13:41):
want the cartels to be up against it. I wanted
to be much less appealing for people to break our
laws because it is much more appealing for Mexicans and
Central Americans to stay and build prosperity in their own countries, right.
I mean that that's what I think we could all
say we would like that. And making it a more

(14:01):
secure border, building this border wall, helping our border patrol
on our Mexican counterparts is all a part of that.
As long as you have cartels that have bank rolls
that will will make corruption widespread with the Mexican government
of Mexican security forces, and as long as the cartels

(14:21):
are able to fight over billions of dollars, you're not
going to have a secure stable Mexico and you're gonna
have problems that spill over into our own country, which
Trump is also taking note of. And I mentioned to
you yesterday with MS their team we got more on
the boarder we gotta talk about here. As you can tell,
I find this to be an incredibly important issue. I
think it's important for the future of this country. And
I think that Trump drew a line in the san today.

(14:45):
You could say he put the first brick up in
the wall by making it quite clear he's not backing
off this one. A lot of the haters, the underminers, uh,
the detractors from Trump have been and you're not going
to get this wall. It's a lie. He's clowning you.
Oh yeah, there's no way he can walk back from it. Now.

(15:06):
He's got to do everything he can to get that wall.
And I think he's going to This is the guy
who agreed to meet with Kim John Un despite all
the conventional wisdom against it. Right. I think you're also
seeing the president today who's going to be the one
who starts getting that wall built. And that will be
It will be a game changer. It was a game
changer for Israel, and oh guess what, it's been a

(15:26):
game changer at the San Diego sector of the US
Mexico border. So we have proof already. If it wasn't
gonna work, the left wouldn't hate it so much. Alright, alright,
I'm fired up. I know we will be back with
much more on this. Stay with me. Both countries recognized

(15:51):
the need to stem the cross border flow of illegal weapons, drugs, people,
and cash. I have a great relationship at the President
of Mexico, wonderful guy Enrique, terrific guy. We're working, we're
trying to work things out. We'll see whether or not
it happens. I don't know that it's going to happen.
He's a very good negotiator, he loves the people of Mexico,

(16:16):
and he's working very hard. We'll see what happens. I
like how even Trump, with all of his optimism and salesmanship,
is like, I mean, it might happen, Like maybe it
won't happen. But usually he's like, Oh, we're gonna get
it done. It's gonna be amazing, it's gonna be great,
you know, And that's part of his his charm and

(16:36):
his power, quite honestly. But on this one, he's like,
I don't know if Mexico is gonna be like all
on board for this. I'm not sure. I could not sure.
I could promise that, but I can't promise the wall,
and he certainly is promising. By the way, Producer producer
Mike actually has some some numbers for me. So well,
So what I said about the cities what was true here?

(16:58):
Lobos was one, Caracas is two, and Acapulco comes in third. Damn,
look at I did not even know that, and those
three cities came up in my discussion because that is
how I roll. So there you go. Yeah, the violence
in Venezuela's pretty self explanatory if you know what's going
on with the government. But Acapulco, I think it's mostly
because the I believe the Sinaloa cartel, which is really

(17:22):
the oldest, is fighting a turf battle with the Nuevo
Helisco or Helisco Nuevo Generation cartel, and which is ultra there.
I mean they're both ultra violent, but they're they're finding
out in Acapulco. And and then yeah, Los Cabos, but
people still go there because I still if you go on,
if you go on like hotels dot Com right now

(17:44):
and you look up places in Cabo, they're like all
in cloth with twelve to night for mom cation. Ya
mom cation Cabo. No, moms do not mom cation Cabo. No. No,
many petties on the beach in Cabo stay there? Yeah
what what? What's a murder? Yeah? Bad things going on there,

(18:06):
bad things going on there. You did not want to
be anywhere near that. So, nonetheless, we we got to
talk more about Trump in this policy of fighting. So
we know the wall is important. He promised the wall,
and also the other side was saying you'll never get it.
He is threatening to veto the next funding bill if
there's not funding for a wall. This is you know,
with Congress funding for a wall next budget bill. And

(18:30):
also sanctuary cities get defunded unless they stop their anti
rule of law shenanigans. Nless they stop their lawlessness. What's
that gonna look like? What's that gonna mean? You can
see we're heavy on immigration this hour. We'll talk more
about White House personnel and some other stuff. Stay with me.

(18:57):
He's back with you now, because when it comes to
the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. California sanctuary
policies put the entire nation at risk. They're the best
friend of the criminal. These smugglers, the traffickers, the gang members,
they're all taking refuge. These policies released dangerous criminal offenders

(19:18):
to prey on innocent people and nullify the federal law.
They're threatening the security and the safety of the people
of our country. The presidents going after sanctuary cities too.
The promise here is that if they don't fall in
line and start supporting federal law and stop supporting lawlessness,

(19:43):
they're gonna stop getting some federal grant money. That's going
to really sting some of these locales. What's the point
of the federal government having grant money to give or
not give. If states and cities get it without compliance
to what the federal government is requesting, right, then then
it's not a grant. Then it's just a demand. Then
it's a an expectation. And what was it? He talked

(20:11):
about it later today as well. You know, Trump spoke
to a group of Marines and mentioned sanctuary cities to
them too. My administration is confronting sanctuary city policies that
nullify federal law, violate our constitution, and threatened the safety
and security of our nation. They shield criminals. We can't

(20:34):
do that, and that is why we are asking Congress
to ensure that no federal funds subsidized this dangerous and
unlawful behavior. We want to protect you, and we want
to protect all of our families. We want to protect
our nation. There is no other area of criminal law

(20:57):
of which I am where at least that has cities,
elected officials, even law enforcement, law enforcement officials too, who
actively subvert criminal law. There's there's no other area that
I'm that I'm aware of, um where this, where this

(21:17):
happens in this way. Keep in mind that as much
as I disapprove of the message, that's sent about federalism
and about the role of the federal government. The states
with the California legalization, uh de facto legalization in gosh
if it's Colorado and Washington. But there are some other

(21:39):
places have followed suit, right, or they've at least decriminalized it.
There are a few places now, but a couple of
states stretching back for a few years, have effectively decriminalized marijuana.
But that's different because the federal government has said, all right,
we're cool at that for now. Do I think that
that's a good way for the country, But no, I
think that Congress should you know, either, they should pass
laws that prohibit substances at the federal level using the

(22:04):
interstate commerce clause. By the way, which is distressing. The
interstate commerce clauses abused by status. It is the many
headed hydra from which so many of our authoritarian ills
stem in this country. So much of what the federal
government does that it shouldn't is because of Wickered v.

(22:25):
Philburn and the interstate commerce clause. Quick version of it
is the guys selling wheat, but he's like, I'm not
selling across state lines, so they say, well, selling it
within state lines. Affects the price across state lines. Therefore,
will regulate it as though you're selling it across state lines.
Once you apply that logic to things, there's really no
there's no such thing as a state anymore, which is

(22:46):
how you had in the nineties. Even the Violence Against
Women Act pass at a federal level, even though all
fifty states had statutes criminalizing, as they should domestic violence.
But it's not a federal government issue. It's a state
and local issue. But they said, well, it affects commerce.
They've done this with any number of things. But if
marijuana is not going to be illegal, the federal government

(23:07):
should back off and not have it be illegal. Nonetheless,
the point I'm making is about the state versus the
federal and on drugs, at least the federal government says, okay,
states will allow it. With immigration and sanctuary cities, the
federal government's like, no, no, no, we gotta this is
an urgent problem. We've got to handle this. We've got
way too much illegal immigration happening in this country, way

(23:29):
too many legal aliens running around. Many of them are dangerous,
They're committing a lot of crimes, and this is a
problem we have to address. And state and local governments
are saying, sorry, I don't want to know no part
of They don't want to help you on that one. Listen,
I mean, nowhere else do you have this. Nowhere else
do you have government authorities who are supposed to be

(23:51):
about the rule of law, who are actively working to
undermine the rule of law. And Trump has had enough
of it and s indeed California is ground zero for
this fight. And Trump singled out Governor Jerry Brown for
being among the worst of the worst offenders of the
sanctuary city policy type. Thank you having a Brown has

(24:16):
done a very poor job running California. They have the
highest taxes in the United States. The place is totally
out of control. You have sanctuary cities where you have
criminals living in the sanctuary cities, and then the mayor
of Oakland goes out and notifies when Ice is going
in to pick them up. And many of them were
criminals with criminal records and very dangerous people. You would say,

(24:36):
dangerous people. And uh No, I think the governor is
doing a terrible job running the state of California. I
think that's fair to say. I've got so many friends
who live in California, who are like, yeah, it's beautiful here,
it's great, but the taxes and government services and infrastructure,
you know, not unless you are really rich and you

(24:58):
know already got a maid in shade, you do not
want to try to make it happen out in California.
They say, it's just it's just too hard. Um, it's
just there are too many regulations and too many hurdles
putting the way of success, and successes increasingly penalized there.
So look, I this is where you got to see
if Trump is Trump is really going to get it done.

(25:21):
There's no way for him to back off. There's no
way for him to back off the wall without letting
his base down there. It's it's just not possible. And
I think this is one issue. You know that the
Trump supporters, the real die hard Trump supporters, believe that
they can give some leeway to Trump to get certain

(25:42):
things done. They're not, oh, well, he's gonna get it
all right away. But the day that Trump says, sorry,
we can't make the wall happen and it's not and
it's something that I could do something about, is the
day that his base starts to crumble. If he and
if he livers on the wall. The the opposite effect
will happen, which is his base will stay with him

(26:04):
through They'll give him so much, but let'll stay with
him through anything, because I'll know. That was the single
biggest promise of his entire campaign. That was also the
promise that was most ridiculed by the left, and that
got the Democrats the most upset. So the wall is
a big deal. Um it is. It is a big deal,
and it's not gonna get built all at once, and

(26:26):
I know there's gonna be problems and everything else, but
getting it going sends huge signals. And that's why Trump
is out there today talking about how important it is
to put up this wall and what it will mean
for us going forward. You know, just just imagine if
our southern border was like our northern border in terms
of not having to worry as much about legal aliens,

(26:49):
about criminal infiltration, even possible terrorist infiltration. We could live
in that world. Our northern border doesn't keep us up
at night with worry. Our southern border shouldn't, and it
should be addressed. And this is an old school solution
for a current day problem. Create an obstacle that gives
you better ability to police and and gives you that additional,

(27:15):
really real force multiplier effect of having yes, border patrol
that can react quickly, have drones in the air, have
all the different sensors and electronic assistance that they can
bring to bear. But also you know, not just play, uh,
you know, hide and seek and run around in the
desert and trying to find people when all they could

(27:35):
do is just keep walking. That's going to be a
game changer, I think eight four four d to eight
to five. If you want to chat about this or
anything else, eight four four nin buck, You've got a
lot more, including what's going on with the whole Tillerson
Pompeo shake up. I'll give you more thoughts on that,
So stay with me. You honor your duty to your country.

(28:08):
Now we must honor our duty to you. For too long,
the men and women of the United States Armed Forces
have been asked to do more with less. You've borne
the costs of under investment and deferred modernization and also

(28:31):
deferred maintenance. You've endured longer and more frequent deployments. You've
spent countless hours fixing and maintaining old equipment. President Trump,
speaking earlier today at the Marine Corps air Station Miramar
in San Diego. And it's always, I think some notable

(28:53):
that when Trump speaks to the troops, he speaks with
a a an affection and a reverence and our respect
that is very apparent, despite the fact that the media
has been trying for a long time to suggest that
Trump doesn't respect the military, doesn't respect military service because
of things he said to political opponents, UM and and

(29:17):
every person and I know people on all sides of
the aisle and all kinds of stuff, including military and
intelligence work, but all the military folks I talked to
her like, yeah, Trump is. Trump is very well liked
as commander in chief, overwhelmingly well liked as commander in chief,
and I don't think there's nearly enough attention given by

(29:37):
the various media outlets to that fact. And his focusing
on rebuilding parts of military that have not received adequate funding,
and his efforts to improve different parts of that authorization
and financial authorization process, I think is getting a lot

(29:58):
of people over onto his side, for um uh, from
those who are military and also from the veteran community
to um. But he also mentioned nuclear force specifically, we're
also modernizing our nuclear capabilities and rebuilding our nuclear infrastructure.
We're investing more money than we have ever done before

(30:22):
because we have to be so far ahead of any
other country. It's a capability we never even want to
think about using, but we have to be prepared, and
in a nuclear front, we are so far and will
be so far ahead of any other country. You know,

(30:45):
I think it's notable that with the recent bluster from
Vladimir Putin on the nuclear weapons that he has in
his arsenal, it's not some people said he doesn't have
that capability and this stuff he's talking about with the
you know what, hypersonic glide vehicles and things like that. Uh,
it's not that it would be impossible to do. Just

(31:08):
many of the analysts I saw said they're not they
don't believe, or they're not sure that Putin has already
gotten there. But these are things that will most likely
be a reality very soon if they're not already, and
that will change the way that we have to think
about missile defense and intercontinental ballistic missiles. And once you
start adding advanced technologies into it, you know, you no

(31:29):
longer have mutually assured destruction if one side can reasonably
be expected to shoot down whatever missiles may come its way,
if they're old school missiles or or on the other
side of it, if one side of the equation, say
the Russians or somebody else, has missiles that can reliably
get around any defense that we have, you know that

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that changes the strategic calculation. And I think Trump is
aware of this, and it's very just like with Reagan.
You remember, these are very expensive issues and you have
to take a long term view. But if we want
to maintain all our military pre eminence and can maintain
our role as the world superpower, we can't allow ourselves
to fall behind on this and think in terms that

(32:13):
are outdated about all of it. So oh, but there's
one other part is that it was like a hey
moment today, I'm like, WHOA hold on a second, it's
Trump really gonna yeah, he's going there. He's talking about
talking about space and the space race in terms of
national security. So think of that spaceforce because we're spending

(32:34):
a lot and we have a lot of private money
coming in tremendous you saw what happened the other day,
and tremendous success. From the very beginning, many of our
astronauts have been soldiers and sailors, airmen, coast guardsmen and marines,
and our service members will be vital to ensuring America

(32:55):
continues to lead the way into the stars. We're gonna
lead the way in space. We're way way behind and
we're catching up fast. Space Force. I like it. I
want to be a part of Space Force sounds awesome.
I'd want some kind of laser gun that goes pu P,
you know, Space Force. Think you'd be a lot of fun.

(33:16):
I would enjoy it. But it is getting more and
more a reality. You mentioned the private sector money that's
coming into it. Look at what Elon Musk just said,
I think yesterday about Mars. Get yourself to Mars. Uh.
That's a reference to total Recall Schwarzenegger, who will be
making an appearance later on in the show as well.

(33:38):
But yes, Elon Musk play it. We're building the first ship,
the first Mars m interplanetary ship UM right now, and
I think we'll prob fail to do short flights, short
sort of up and down flights UM. Only sometime in
the first half of next year. I'm gonna have ships

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visiting Mars. Folks. You know, this is one thing that
the climate change alarmists and the radical environmentalists left and
the redistributionists who just think that we have a It's
all about what we do with the pie we have now,
not what the the economic pie looks like tomorrow. Uh,
you know what the government can do with it meeting
who they give it to, is that this is all

(34:20):
gonna be changing so rapidly. You know. One thing I
will say is I kind of hate airlines. And I
know it's easy to hate on airlines, but I really
have a tough time not hating on them these days. Uh,
every time I fly, there's a problem, and it's it's
as reliable as clockwork. Every time I fly there is
a problem. And I saw that terrible story about a

(34:41):
woman who had to put her was forced to put
her dog in the overhead compartment and the dog died.
I would lose my mind. I hope she sues that
airline out of you know, sues it's pants off, so
to speak. And I just would like to see technology
advanced to a point where we can get airlines that

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are not punishing us so that they can make more money,
because that's what they really do. It's it's put you
in the most uncomfortable seats in the most uncomfortable places,
and you know, and and have you at their mercy
and everything else, and it's all for their bottom line.
And I would just love to see disruption in that industry.
And I'm hoping that air and space travel will advance

(35:23):
to a point where we can finally say sayonara to
the old version of the airlines we've seen for decades now,
where it's just it's it's their world and you're living
in it for the few hours or whatever it is
that you're trying to get to wherever it is you're going.
It's uh, you know, space flight. I know it's not

(35:44):
directly tied in this, but I'm thinking about flying cars too.
And all this technological progress is going to change a
lot when it comes to policies, and so you want
to you want to keep that in mind. Maybe another
day I'll give you a speech on how we're decarbonizing
as a society already. And that's why the climate change
alarm is just have no idea what they're talking about.
We are naturally decarbonizing using less carbon intensive fuels all

(36:04):
the time. It's happening as a result of technology. Um,
but there I go on all that stuff. We're gonna
get into the taylorson Pompeo shift, and maybe also that
poisoning in Russia, and we'll talk about that and more
coming up here. He's holding the line for America. Buck

(36:32):
Sex in his back. Welcome to our two of the
Buck Sexton Show. I thank you very much for being here.
We have the firing of Tillerson as Secretary of State
to get into for a few moments here, as well
as the elevation of see I Director Pompeo to the
Secretary of State role, and the also the promotion of

(36:57):
a woman to head the c I A. And then
you have a Trump aid who has gone for security
clearance reasons. I don't find that last part of it
all that interesting or noteworthy. Money if people leave administrations
for reasons like this all the time, So I'll leave
that one off our docket for now. But Tillerson, uh, well,

(37:19):
he said this about the end of his tenure as
what we used to refer to as Sex State. Here's
what he said. I received a call today from the
President United States at a little afternoon time from Air
Force one, and I've also spoken to White House Chief
of Staff Kelly, to ensure we have clarity as to
the days ahead. What is most important is to ensure

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an orderly of smooth transition during the time that the
country continues to face significant policy and national security challenges.
Has such effective At the end of the day, I'm
delegating all responsibilities of the office of the Secretary the
Deputy Secretary of State Sullivan. My commission is Secretary of

(38:04):
State will terminate at midnight mart one, so he's out.
I didn't have a whole lot to say about the
President on this one. Did mention what's sort of left
to deal with in terms of the portfolio the Secretary
of State, notably China and Russia. Much work remains to

(38:27):
establish a clear view of the nature of our future
relationship with China. How shall we deal with one another
over the next fifty years and insure a period of
prosperity for all of our people's free of conflict between
two very powerful nations. And much work remains to respond
to the troubling behavior and actions on the part of

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the Russian government. Russia must assessed carefully as to how
its actions are in the best interests of the Russian
people and of the world. More broadly, continuing on their
current trajectory is likely to lead to greater obscolation on
their part, the situation, which is not in anyone's interesting.

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So Tillerson is done, and now we have to look
at what that means going forward. Now, now I mentioned
the last hour, I think that Pompeo makes more sense
as the person to be in this role. I think
that Pompeo is aligned with Trump on policy. I think
that Pompeo is a a guy who understands the political

(39:33):
fight that the administration is currently in. And I believe
that Pompeo will be more effective then Tillerson was on
issues like Iran and their recertification or the lack of certification,
whatever ends up happening, on the Iran nuclear deal, on
dealing with these upcoming North Korea talks, and then also

(39:59):
everything else that comes long being Secretary of State. I
just think that Pompeo and Trump, well, Trump says this,
and it's not just my my opinion, man, it's also
but the President himself has made quite clear um that
he really gets along with Pompeo. I've worked with Mike
Pompeo now for quite some time, tremendous energy, tremendous intellect.

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We're always on the same wavelength. The relationship has been
very good, and that's what I need at a secretary
of State. I wish wreck Pillerson well. Gina, by the way,
who I know very well, who I've worked very closely,
will be the first woman director of the c I A.
He's an outstanding persisdon who also I have gotten it

(40:48):
over very well. But I don't have any opinion for
you really on the the new the new director. Um,
I've been out long enough and away from it long
then off at any of the kind of you know,
I don't. I mean, I don't. I don't know her,
So I don't know anything about this. Got nothing for
you on it. That's what I'm trying to say. So

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if Trump says she's good, I mean, all I know
is what I'm reading about in the newspapers, just like you.
And we'll have to see first female though, to head
the agencies. So that's that's gonna be an interesting talking
point that will get lost very quickly because the media
that the media doesn't consider women who are Republicans, or
even women in a Republican administration to be breaking any

(41:34):
glass ceilings that that can't really happen. But Pompeo over
chillers didn't what to see. I mean, Trump said that
look that that Rex and he that they were just
having some some issues between the two of them, that's
one way to put it. I really didn't discuss it
very much with them, honestly, Uh. I made that decision

(41:55):
by myself. Rex wasn't you know, in our in this country.
I made see North Korean decision with consultation from many people.
But I made that decision by myself. I actually got
along well with Rex, but really it was a different mindset.
It was a different thinking. I've gotten the long well

(42:16):
with Mike Bumbao, and frankly, I get along well with
Rex su And you know, I wish Rex a lot
of good things. I think Rex will be much happier now.
I think so too. So I don't really want to
get to now. Tillerson gets to go back to being
the former CEO of Exxon Mobile, the until recently it's
the biggest company in the world, and he's gonna be

(42:38):
someone who you know, he has a lot of he
can spend a lot of money, He's got a lot
of money, he can hang out and do whatever he wants,
and he was just too much of an alpha dog
to play the role that he needed to in this administration.
We all know in Trump world there can only be
one alpha dog. And you know, Rex Tillerson, I think,
was always kind of like, I don't need this job.
I'll do it to serve my country. But if you

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take that position and you don't see eye to eye
with Trump on where things need to go, it's gonna
be tough. It's gonna be tough. You get you get
to to alpha's in the room. You know, two can enter,
only one, only one will leave, right I mean to
or like Highlander, there can be only one. It was
like that in this administration. That's my analysis is the

(43:22):
Highlander theory of Trump's cabinet picks. There can be only one.
So there you have it much for you on that
before Other than that, you know, I think I'm gonna
I want to mix it up here. I want to
talk to you about something that I'd be willing to
bet you haven't heard much coverage of anywhere else, if
any and the media is trying very hard not to

(43:43):
cover it. And I've got just enough for just enough
vetting an analysis of it to share the tonight. Did
you know that South African South African government may go
forward with and appropriation which is just a fans we
have saying season land, season land from farmers. Why are

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they season this land from the farmers because the farmers
are white. This is a whole campaign that is being ignored,
swept aside, kept out of the public's eye, and we
have to start asking why why is that the case?
Why are am I sitting here? And I'm willing to

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bet that very few of you have heard, um maybe
some of you have seen something on social media about it,
but it is it is very much going on that
there is a campaign now to dispossess people in South Africa,
which is the wealthiest country in Sub Saharan Africa. Do
you dispossess people based on their skin color? Because the
government now is saying, particularly the more radical Marxist elements

(44:52):
of the South African government are saying that the land
was never there is to begin with. And some very
very disturbing stuff is coming out about all this, and
it's gonna be tough for the media to keep hiding
what's going on here. You have campaigns, uh systemic campaigns

(45:13):
of intimidation, violence, and rape against the white farmers that
have been well documented now and the government is not
only unwilling to help, but there was one case that
I read about where a woman was trying to defend herself,
I believe, with a firearm and she ended up being arrested.
So you've got very very dangerous things going on right

(45:36):
now in South Africa, and I just want to talk
to you about what's happening there because how is this
not a bigger news story? And also, at what point
do we get to say that the Trump administration should
consider taking in these farmers as refugees. They're English speaking
there from a a an Anglo Anglo tradition of of

(45:58):
culture and rule of law. How how about we open
our doors to the the farmers in South Africa who
are being threatened with murder and dispossession of their land. Now,
this is a question that I'm just wondering why no
one's really asking it, but you see this happening time
and again. It's kind of like the Christians in Iraq.
You know, they're they're facing extinction and they're being openly targeted.

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But you know, we we can't really help them here
because because what their minority there, they're under threat. Well yeah,
but we don't want to seem like we're playing favorites.
We play favorites with refugee populations all the time, but
when we look outside our own borders, we have this
sense of well, whoever is a minority or a a
you know, somebody who's either suffers from oppression or enjoys

(46:44):
privilege here, they must have the same thing and the
rest of the world. That's not how the world works.
I just think you'll find this to be a fascinating
story and and frightening. And when you look at the
precursor situation or the most similar situation with Zimbabwe next
door are h then you see what the future could

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look like unless this gets stopped in the international community
should have a role to play here. The US government
should speak up. I'll give you some of the details
on this week. Come back. I think you'll be fascinated
by this. Stay with me. So, what is going on

(47:27):
in South Africa right now? It's been some reporting on
it here and there, but there seems to be an
unwillingness or a desire in the media to not pay
any attention to this, even though some of those who
are in positions of authority and power saying some pretty

(47:50):
terrible things in South Africa's parliament just past emotion in
the last few weeks that would that could lead to
the seizure of land from white farmers, and that can
get very violent and very scary as well. And on
top of that it's deeply immoral and wrong. But you have,

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for example, Julius Malema, who is a far left Marxist
radical but elected member of parliament in South Africa, who
at a at a rally earlier this year said this
about the white farmers that's been living peacefully, that had
been swimming in a pile, be going themselves because they're

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always the high school older. Our peace was this time
by white men's arbal. They call me black gino sign.
They killed our people. King pay whats gotten to step

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them keeping when they found the place put up against here,
they killed them. There's them like we are not calling
for the lot of white people, at least for them.
I know it was tough with the audience here, he

(49:24):
said at the end. This is the leader of the
Economic Freedom Fighters Party in South Africa. He's a political
leader there. He says they're not calling for the slaughter
of white people yet. Is that a public rally, folks,
That that's the kind of thing that you know in
most countries, most societies would raise a lot of eyebrows,
get a lot of attention. This was earlier this year

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and there is some reporting on this, but not nearly enough.
Here is part of a report from sky News, the
UK owned international news channel, and here's what they rep
order had to say about the violence against white farmers
in South Africa. What we've saying over there is is

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placed to respond. They will turn up, but it seems
hardly anyone has ever arrested. I think another problem with
South Africa has been this mandate to him employ the
cycle previously disadvantaged at any cost, and that's including in
the place force. So we have very lovely skilled place
who don't seem to have the capacity to investigate these

(50:28):
crimes properly. What's refferm to you with employing the previously
disadvantaged is effectively a form of affirmative action. So you're
saying you've got police that have no skills, have no
idea what they're doing, but they're being employed for largely
political reasons. Who are showing up and being told, hey,
this white farmer has been attacked in what is a
a racial and racist attack right there, attacking people because

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they're white, and they feel that they have a green
light from the government which just voted the parliament just
voted overwhelmingly to seize the property of white farmers. Of
farmland in South Africa is in the hands of white farmers,
and they show please show up, and you know they
don't want to. They they don't want to or unwilling
to do anything about it, or unable to do anything

(51:12):
about it because of their lack of training. So this
is really disturbing stuff. And and people are saying, well,
why don't the farmers leave. We'll think about this. Who
are they going to sell their land to? And their farmers,
their their livelihood, everything is tied up in their land.
If they leave, what do they have. Who will even
buy the farm from them? The answer is nobody, because

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right now the government's talking about literally seizing it, nationalizing
for the purposes of social justice or in this case,
racial justice, nationalizing farms to redistribute to the people. By
the way, this is very similar to the social justice
rhetoric you've heard in Venezuela until recently as well. Oh,
we have to give more to the people, land to
the people, redistribution reforms. This stuff always ends in disaster.

(51:59):
It is ended an absolute disaster next door in Zimbabwe,
which had the same program going on basically now it's
not it's has to still pass that has to be
signed off on, but the legislative branch of the South
African government, the parliament, has passed it overwhelmingly. In Zimbabwe,

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the seizure of land from white farmers, which was done
with with the absolute you know, complicity and on the
orders really of the government, has turned Zimbabwe from a
country that was Southern Africa's bread basket into a country
that can't feed itself, that has to import food, that

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has food shortages regularly um and has hyper inflation of
a level of the currency has actually turned into nothing.
Their their currency has really no value. They've abandoned it.
They literally inflated the currency into into zero. Uh. But
things did not get better when they did their land
appropriations there. And if you want to see what that

(53:05):
was like, because it was happening relatively recently, a documentary,
I would recommend to you is Mugabe and the White
I believe it's Mugabe and the White African um which
I saw years ago and it's specifically about is that
mcgabi in the white Farmer? I can't remember. Um, I'll producer, Mike,

(53:25):
let me know which one. It is a documentary. It's
very good. I saw maybe ten years ago. And it
shows you you've got a documentary is living on a
on a white farm? This is in Zimbabwe now next
door formerly Rhodesia and Zimbabwe after independence. Uh, and they've
got these what is it, the white African? Yeah, Zimbabwe
and the white Mugabe rather and the white African. Mugabe

(53:48):
is the dictator of or was until recently the dictator
of of Zimbabwe. Very bad guy, by the way, very
bad guy. Um. But in that you see these government
officials who show up and are just like, you know,
you white people are scum, your thieves. This is not
your land. It's our land now it belongs to the people.
Which by the people they just mean government cronies and

(54:09):
the power structure. But they're just gonna take it. And
what happened is they stripped the farms down to nothing.
Nobody was able to or cared to be able to
plant any crops. They just this is you know, they
took all the I mean the copper wiring out of
the buildings, They took the farm equipment, they sold it off.
Everything was sold and destroyed and nothing left. What do
people that think is gonna happen if they seize the

(54:31):
farmers from the farmers in South Africa? What messages that
send of the world. By the way, Yeah, this is
distressing and I just would want to note, given to
how much we talked about refugees, we take refugees from
Central America because Central America is violent, not because Central
Americans are being targeted for being Central Americans. We're talking
about racial targeting by the government in South Africa, a

(54:53):
relatively advanced economy and country. Why haven't you heard about
this until now? He's holding the line for America. Buck
Sexton is back. It is now clear that Mr. Scrippan

(55:17):
and his daughter were poisoned with a military grade nerve
agent of a type developed by Russia. This is part
of a group of nerve agents known as Novi chok.
Based on the positive identification of this chemical agent by
world leading experts at the Defense Science and Technology Laboratory
at Porton down our knowledge that Russia has previously produced

(55:38):
this agent and would still be capable of doing so,
Russia's record of conducting state sponsored assassinations, and our assessment
that Russia views some defectors as legitimate targets for assassinations.
The government has concluded that it is highly likely that
Russia was responsible for the act against Serge and to

(56:00):
the Theresa May, British Prime Minister laying down the law
there on Moscow and this is this is brazen stuff,
but it's not new for Russia really. I mean this
using this substance um, which is a nerve agent that

(56:22):
as I did some researchs today was coming across that
it's more potent than VX gas, which sounds like very
very very nasty stuff indeed. But to assassinate somebody with
a nerve agent on a street in the UK or
on a park bench I think it's where he was
found with his daughter, or to try to I know

(56:44):
they're in there. I believe they're both in hospital and
who knows what the long term damages. But this, this
is how the Russians do things. They enforce loyalty. I
mean Russia is really a run as a mafia state,
and there's the what's the omerta, the code of silence, right,
they kind of enforced that extra territorially around the world.

(57:07):
If you defect or that's the old, the old Soviet terminology.
But if you become an informant for a foreign government
of foreign intelligence service, or if the Russians believe you
two have become one, they will get rid of you
in a way that's meant to show that they. Yeah,

(57:29):
their fingerprints are all over this. It shows that the
Russians were behind it. It sends the message very clearly,
and that's just the way they do things. And you
start to wonder, well, what are we what are we expecting?
What are we expecting the response to be? You know,

(57:49):
this March fourth nerve agent attack on serage screen Paul
and his daughter Julia also put bystanders at risk and
bystander who were exposed to this poison. The poison has
actually left traces at a pub and a pizza parlor
that they visited, So we're not entirely clear are they've

(58:10):
gone where they're just making sure I'm not missing this
on where they were put in contact with this military
grade nerve agent. But we do know that the Russians
did this understanding that we were likely to find out
that it was the Russians, or not that we would
find out that it was the Russians once we uh,
we're looking at this, and I know people are already

(58:33):
bringing up the previous poisons they've done. I mean there
was one way back when that I think was traced
to the UH. This was on a on a bridge
and I think it was traced to the Bulgarian a
secret police trained by the Soviets, but I could be
wrong about that. Where they used a rice and tipped
pellet in an umbrella on on what was a successful assassination.

(58:57):
This is what they do, and that was for being
a dissident. I mean there was a time when the
Soviets would kill you just for being a former for
being a former Soviet who was telling the world the
truth about what was going on behind the Iron Curtain.
But now if you are a turncoat on the Kremlin
anywhere in the world, they'll come after you. Now what
should people have asked me this? You know, what should

(59:17):
we do about? Oh, by the way, Trump is is uh,
it's talked about this one earlier today too. As soon
as we get the fact straight, and we're gonna be
speaking with the British today. We're speaking with Theresa mate today.
As as soon as we get the fact straight. If
we agree with them, we will condemn my show, whoever
it may be. He says, we'll condemn them for a

(59:40):
lot of people. That's not sufficient in this case. But
then I started to push and say, well, what would
you like him to do? You know, it was a
Russian missile with Russian back separatists that shot a plane
full of AIDS researchers out of the sky and kill
over a hundred people. I forget what the full number was.
Remember that back a few years ago under the Obama

(01:00:01):
administration and a Russian missile shot a civilian jet liner
out of the sky. You know what, what was the
big retaliation we did there? Now they'll say it was
an accident, but the point is the Russians were responsible
for that. Um it was Russian aggression in Ukraine that
even made that a problem in the first place. What

(01:00:23):
would folks really like us do. Maybe they'll expel diplomats
in the UK, you know, maybe they will get rid
of some people that they believe are stooping around doing
shady stuff for the Russians in the UK. All right,
But the truth is, you know, we've got to find
more creative ways to slap back at Putin. I mean,
the media is gonna complain about how, oh it's it's

(01:00:45):
not strong enough and the language isn't isn't clear enough.
What's that? You think Putin gives a crap what anybody
in the country says about what Russia did. No, right,
that's just foolishness, that's just utter nonsense. So then you
have to look too, Okay, what are really the feasible responses?

(01:01:07):
And the answer is I haven't seen one yet. I
don't know what we're gonna do about this. You know,
the Russians played dirty and they played by a different code,
and we've already got sanctions against them. So we'll keep
an eye on this. I'm gonna try to think of
what a what a good retaliatory response would be. And
we've got our friend, uh Fred Flights join us here
talking about North Korea in a minute, so stay with me.

(01:01:29):
So North Korea big in the headlines in the last
few days because of the upcoming Trump Kim Jong un summit.
Some people are saying this is going to be the
beginning of a of a new era in US North
Korean relations. Others are saying it's a trap, it's a
terrible idea, it's gonna be a diplomatic ambush of sorts. Well,

(01:01:51):
what's true and what's not. We've got Fred Flights with
us now on the line. He is, like me, a
former CIA analyst uh pred is also the off of
the upcoming UH The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare, which
is a book you should all check out. It's available
on Amazon, and he's a senior vice president for policy
and Programs at the Center for Security Policy. Fred, Great

(01:02:13):
to have you back, man, Thanks for making the time.
Hey Bacco to be here. All right, let's let's start
before we get into the specifics of your book, although
it's obviously going to tie into our conversation. What do
you what do you make of the Trump offer? Just
take us to the thirty thousand foot view here. Well,
I think we have to consider that President Trump has
changed in the game concerning North Korea's unorthodox diplomacy, which

(01:02:36):
everyone was criticizing a few years ago as trying to
get US into a war. Those same people who had
nothing bad to say about Obama's abysmal policies, the latter
runs North Korea's nuclear missile programs to surge. Now they're
condemning the President for giving away too much. So I
think the President has put the fear of God in
the in the in the North Koreans and forced them

(01:02:58):
to change tactics. Um, I don't think there's sincere. Frankly,
I think that this is probably a ploy to divide
US some other countries, to get concessions and to weaken
sanctions and to buy time to continue developing its nuclear
missile programs. But at a minimum, we have a change
in tactics, and the next task is to get the

(01:03:19):
North Koreans to prove their sincerity and wanting to do
nuclear eyes. Now, the pressure is going to continue. Do
you think that it would be wise for the administration
to continue to reach out to China and others say
you've got to keep this going? Or could that sour
the talks before they even happen. Now we have to
keep the pressure on. We're going to do that. The

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South Koreans has said that they're going to do that.
We can't do what we've done in the past, basically
let our guard down, which is what the North Koreans
are after weakening sanctions. And you know, when we start
pressing them for things like inspections, they've got to be
robust inspections. We can't do what the Iranians and the
North Koreans have done in similar circumstances, putting a lot

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of the sensitive sites off limits, so the world can't
determine what types of illegal nuclear activities they were engaged in.
Speaking of Fred Flights, he's a formacy I analysts and
author of The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare. Fred, take
me into the book, which is obviously very topical because
we're now faced with a the most important negotiation. I

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think it's fair to say of Trump's life most likely
thus far, it's certainly got to make it in the
top three or four. Um. But tell me about the
North Korean Nuclear Nightmare as you see it. Well, The
Coming North kore Nuclear Nightmare has a subtitle what Trump
must do to reverse Obama Strategic Patients. You know, I
talked about how numerous presidents have mishandled North Korea and

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have been taken advantage of certainly Clinton was George W.
Bush was taken advantage up by the North queens very badly.
But nothing compares to the incredibly incompetence date eg Patient's
policy of the Abom administration, which basically was a policy
to kick the North Korean situation down the road. Well,

(01:05:08):
It's nuclear missile programs were growing and growing and growing
under Kim Jong Owen, and that left what President Trump
has often described as a mess when he came into office.
We know Susan Rice said earlier in the Trump administration
that we just have to accept North Korea as a
nuclear power. That sort of sums up the Abom administration's
approach to ran into Korea. Let's just live with it.

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That's unacceptable. That's what the president said. And I think
by actually putting the use of force on the table
and an unorthodox farm policy really has ratchet up sanctions
and sanctions compliance. As I said earlier, he has changed
the game towards North Korea, and I discussed that in
the book. Now, fred I as I see it, um
and there might be a third option I'm not bringing

(01:05:52):
up here, so feel free to toss that in the
next two But assuming the Trump talks fail, which I
think and this is not a declaration from my part
about whether I think it's a good idea or not.
I'm actually I think that that Trump your point, shaking
up the game. He's got to do something right. I mean,
the pathway we're on is not sustainable. But let's say
that it doesn't happen. Let's say it is. What I

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believe you agree is the most likely scenario. That this
is either Kim Jong installing for time, trying to take
some concessions out of our hands, all the things that
one would expect here from this regime based on previous behavior.
It seems to me that we have two paths which
after that, which would be on the one hand, learned
to try and live with a fully nuclear capable North

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Korea that has I C b M s that can
hit anywhere in the world, or some kind of a
military strike. Is there a third option? And what do
you think we do about those options as I put
them out there, Well, we first have to talk about
what is the purpose of North Korea's nuclear and nuclear
weapons and missiles. And I think with sixty nuclear weapons
according to the intelligence community and I C b ms,

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we can't consider this a determ aren't anymore. This is
an offensive force that the North plans to use eventually
to force the unification of the creates on its terms
and to drive US from the region. So there is
going to be a military conflict eventually. That's why if
these talks don't go well, and if if if another
round of sanctions and an additional diplomatic pressure fails, I

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argue in the book that we have to start considering
the limited use of military force against North Korea, perhaps
with a naval blockade and shooting down missiles, to further
ratchet up the pressure, and the economic pressure should be
ratched up significantly. This is already causing pain to North
create North Crean economy. I think they respect strength, and

(01:07:43):
I think the use of force like that will be
another step towards convincing them to negotiating good faith to
give up the nuclear weapons. What would limited use of
force against North Korea conceivably look like. Well, I'm thinking
of a naval blockade and shooting down missiles, basically saying
to to North Korea that We're not going to tolerate
UH any more missile tests, and we we may expand

(01:08:06):
that to taking out missiles on the ground. The North
is already afraid We're going to do that, which is
why it has been launching missiles from UH near Pyongyang,
near populated areas, because it fears the US might start
doing this. UM. It is intolerable that the North is
beginning to develop I C. D ms and may already
have them that they could use to transport nuclear weapons

(01:08:27):
against the United States. And I think time is running
out fred for folks at home, how should they think
of the willingness of the North Korean regime to do
something that we would see very unwise, but that they
may feel cornered to do and UH kill a whole
lot of people in the process. Well, I mean some

(01:08:49):
people have wondered whether Kim Jong un is interested in
firing missiles at Guam or at the United States, may
be unprovoked. I don't think that the North Korean regime
has a wish UH. And I think that if there
was a limited use of military force, such a shooting
down missiles, the North is not going to attacks out
Korea or the United States because we would flatten the

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country UH. And I think eventually, if these talks fail,
we may have to make it clear to them, we're
simply not going to tower anymore. I CBM tests, and
you know if you're going to test this on that
we're going to start shooting them down. Is there a
universe of really, let me looking put it this way,
let me rephrase this. Is there a realistic proposition in

(01:09:30):
your mind that after this Trump summit? Now I'm not
saying likely, but is it even realistic to think that
there's a world in which North Korea moves towards actual
de nuclearization. It's hard to imagine that that's going to happen,
especially after one meeting. All we can say is that
the President has forced the North Koreans to change tactics.

(01:09:52):
We haven't gotten a response whether they're actually going to
attend the summit. I think they were surprise. There was
a surprise as everyone else when President Trump immediately accepted
this offer, And right now I think they're trying to
formulate their response, and I expect they're going to have
some unacceptable conditions, such as we'll get rid of our
nuclear weapons if all US forces are pulled out of

(01:10:13):
South Korea, which is not going to happen. Um we
we we know we will see. I'd like to see
the summer take place in Seoul to expose Kim Jong
lun to South Korean society and its prosperity. I don't
know if that's going to change his mind, but I'd
like to get him out of North Korea and maybe
weaken the relationship he has with I think a number

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of very malign advisors. One last one for you, Fred,
Just so we can set expectations, and we know the
media is going to move the media overall, we'll move
goalposts on this. You know, a few months ago it
was Trump is taking us into nuclear war with his tweets.
Now it's Trump is rushing into diplomacy. You know, it's
it's always one or the other. But so we can
understand what expectations should be. What would um, let's say,

(01:10:59):
a low probability but high impact diplomatic victory from the
Trump side look like after this summer. What's the best
that we could reasonably hope for if Trump and again,
as you said, maybe it doesn't even happen, if Trump
and Kim Jong n sit down, what does winning look like?
I think an outline for denuclearizing and for lower intentions

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is the best we could hope for I don't think
it will be in agreement. And there are ways to
lower tensions in North Koreans MNA theygree to, like possibly
sending Chinese or Russian peacekeepers into North Korea to guarantee them.
But you know, there's no chance of the US attack
as it would be an attack on Russia or China.
I mean, there's so creative ways that could be pursued
to try to address their interests in d nuclearization if

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they're sincere, but so far we don't know that. All right,
Fred flights everybody, former cy I analysts book coming out,
The Coming North Korean Nuclear Nightmare, available now on Amazon. Fred,
it's a bailable on Amazon, and we're doing a Facebook
live press conference two pm on UH Wednesday. All Right, fantastic, everybody,

(01:12:06):
be sure to check it out tomorrow the Facebook live
for the book. Fred, thank you so much for your time,
my friend. I appreciate it. Good to be here. We're
gona roll into a quick break. We've got our three
coming up, and I'm going to be talking about politics
with our friend Selena Zito. This race that's just about
just about over in terms of the voting or at

(01:12:28):
least we're at the deadline. Um, we'll tell you what's
going on, so stay with us. So there's a big election,

(01:12:50):
as you may have heard, going on as we are
on air. In fact, polls have just closed, I believe
as we go on air here at around eight Eastern
Standard time. Selena Zito is with us now to discuss this,
and she's gonna tell us what she thinks is going
on here. She is a CNN contributor, a New York
Post columnists, and author of the upcoming book The Great

(01:13:13):
The Great Revolt, which we're hoping we'll have a great
result because you're all going to buy it out in May. Selena,
thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so
much for having me. So we got eighteen congressional district
in play here. We've talked to you. I believe about
this one specifically before Connor Lamb versus Rick Sconi. Lamb

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is a Democrat, Scone is the Republican. There's also a
Libertarian named Drew Miller, which is so cute. I just
like how the Libertarians are just they're just in there,
you know, it's adorable. Anyway, what do you think is
gonna happen with Lamb and CICONI here. Well, you know,
Lamb has had the edge in the past two weeks.
He has the most excitement generated around his candidacy. Um.

(01:13:56):
You know, for a number of unique reasons. He's not
used the word Democrat in any on any of this
campaign signs. Um. He I haven't noticed it on his website.
Now there might it might be on there somewhere, Um,
but it's not in his ads. He's essentially run independent
of his party. He put the gauntlet down early with

(01:14:20):
a very effective ad saying running against Nancy Pelos name,
he's pro gun, he's for the president's tariff and um
in In many ways, this election is like a Republican
primary with a more conservative Republican running against a more

(01:14:41):
moderate Republican Connor Lean amazults are very young, he's very charming.
He has a great background military form and a former
federal prosecutor. Yeah, so he has what I mean, he's
the perfect Democrat. But there's a couple of things we
need to think about here. But is he really a Democrat? Selena,
That's what I mean. He's pro life and pro gun,

(01:15:01):
which feels like, how does he sit on the same
side of the I'm sorry. Yeah, when it gets to Washington,
he has to be a Democrat. No, I know, but
I was gonna say, how does he sit next to
Nancy Pelosi with a straight face as somebody who's pro
gun and pro pro life not life, Oh, I thought you.
Oh oh no, No. In fact, he's not even for
the twenty week van important distinction, so he's not very important. Yeah,

(01:15:27):
it's very important distinctions. I thought he was really running
as essentially a stealth Republican, like the old schoolmember the
gun total Democrats of your who were all about guns
and grew up one of those Democrats. That's that, you know,
you're born Catholic and a Democrat in Western Pennsis. So
that's that's an important distinguishing characteristic. And so yeah, because
you you can't be in good stead with the modern
Democrat party. I don't care what the situation is if

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you're you know, he was going to have to flip
that position if he didn't have it already. But you're
telling me he has pro choice, So there we go. Yeah.
So there's a couple of unique things about this race.
First of all, this this seat no longer or exists
thanks to the state Supreme Court, which throughout the old
congressional districts eighteen of them, calling them unconstitutional, and which

(01:16:10):
is interesting because they did that seven years after they
were drawn. So I don't know how they all of
a sudden became unconstitutional. Await, there was an election and
Democrats won the majority in the state Supreme Court. Maybe
that has something to do with it. Anyways, Um, so
this district no longer exists. Um. Second of all, he

(01:16:31):
is garnering support from unions who robustly supported Trump in
this district in two thousand and sixteen. But because the
CONE is a pro is a right to work guy,
they do not He does not UM gather their support.

(01:16:53):
So I think the deciding vote here is going to
be on the union vote, the union family household votes,
and that's the boat that could um triggered this in
in Lamb's direction, there are thousand more registered Democrats in
this UH in this district despite Trump winning it by

(01:17:15):
twenty percentage points. So this would be because because at
the national level, obviously this is gonna there's there's limited
data you could draw from this for how the Democrats
wereun in the mid terms, and this is where all
the old cliches about all congressional races are actually local
and all that stuff applies. But here's Selena. You would
have someone who is running essentially as a prototype of

(01:17:38):
what the Democrats could do in other places to try
to win back the voters that Trump got to beat
Hillary in those key states like Pennsylvania, right exactly, And
and and um, Lamb faces his own challenges if he
wins this evening. He is now thrust into a different
congressional district where he will face aggressive primary challengers. He

(01:18:02):
has not faced the primary before, and as we all understand,
including progressives, that is where the energy is. So you
have to wonder are they willing to go with the
guy that's a proven winner or do they want to
go in with more with their passions UM on the resistance. Um.
He also has never sorted. He has never once criticized

(01:18:25):
President Trump during this entire election, So what will happen
to him in a primary? So those are those are
the things going forward. But I think the lesson if
if Lamb wins, I think the lesson is that Republicans
need a better message outside of Nancy Pelosi is bad
because they need to talk about their accomplishments and not

(01:18:49):
be so afraid of talking about Trump's accublishments. The Republican
Party has changed. It's more populist in nature, and they
need to to feed the beast in populism, and populism
isn't just about anger, It's also about aspiration. Now. I
talk a lot about that in my book The Great Revolt,

(01:19:11):
about understanding who these new coalitions are. We're speaking to
Selena Zito. She has seen, a contributor to New York
Post Commist, author of the upcoming opus The Great Revolt,
which she just mentioned. Selena, what are some of the
lessons and takeaways from your book that are applicable to
this race right now in Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania is obviously

(01:19:32):
one of those key states that everyone was like, whoa
hold on a second Trump can and yes, in fact
he did win that state. Yeah. I mean, elections are
about you know, gas pedal, brake pedal, right, and typically
in midterms, voters want to put the brake pedal on
the current party in power. So what they need to

(01:19:53):
do is understand that they need to run again, as
I just said, on a more populist, more aspirational um
campaign and less about the negatives on Nancy Pelosi. Talk
about what you've accomplished, talk about what you want to accomplish,
sort of like the way that Ronald Reagan and and Trump,

(01:20:14):
even though people don't always get that, how he made
people want to be part of something bigger than themselves.
And I think that's the key. I don't think people
are hungry for a negative. I mean they should be
reminded that if they if if the Republicans lose, Nancy
Pelosi will be the House Speaker by all intents and purposes.

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But they also need to be reminded that they have
to continue to go forward and here are the reasons.
And that message was very missing in this special election.
Let's assume for a second that these results Selena, which
are going to be coming in the earliest results should
be coming in shortly here, and we'll be looking at
them when we're all on air. But let's assume for

(01:20:58):
the purpose of our conversation that Connor Lamb does in
fact win this thing. What is the democra What does
that do for the Democrat message going into the midterms.
Do you think it affects it at a national level?
You think they'll take this as a lesson learned or
is it just going to be a wait and see
until we get much closer. I mean, if there's a

(01:21:19):
such a one Democratic strategist for my story this evening,
and you know, I said, you know, what, what do
you think? And he said, well, if we're starts, we're smart. Uh.
Connor Lambs will win in primaries. But we don't control primaries.
The people do. And it has been proven that the
more active, the more engage, the more excited Democrats are

(01:21:44):
are the ones that are more progressive. We don't know
yet if they'll be willing to compromise some of their um,
their their agenda to win. I mean, Ron Emmanuel was
incredibly good and make sure that happened in two thousand
and six. And you've got moderate Democrats elected in primaries

(01:22:06):
in in swing states like western Pennsylvania and Michigan and
Ohio and Wisconsin and Iowa. Uh, they've got to go
through that process and they have to convince their voters
in those kinds of districts that you want a Conner Lamb.
It is I'm unsure if if the most um, the

(01:22:27):
hard left progressive types are not going to be excited
about the national level DNC efforts to get out the
vote that include, yeah, we like guys who are kind
of pro n r A. In some places, you might
have some progressive activists that even you know, kick up
some dust about this one. You get the Bernie Brows
and sisters may not like that too much going into
the mid terms. And and the intellectual liberals too, you know,

(01:22:51):
they're also you know, incredibly um swept up in this
resistance UH movement, and resistance is not aspirational. Both parties
need to understand. To morder to capture the imagination of
their voters, it has to include this sweeping motion that

(01:23:12):
you are going to be part of something bigger than yourself,
and you are going to be part of something with
other people that's in our d n A. UM Trump
was very good at that. We'll see if they they're
able to do that in the mid terms. Selena Zero everybody,
author of the upcoming The Great Revolt. You can pre
order now on Amazon and I recommend you all do.

(01:23:35):
I'll be reading it. I hope you do as well. Selena,
thank you so much for joining Always appreciate when you
make the time. Thank you so much for having me
team we're going to roll into a break. We'll have
any updates for you on the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania election as
we can, and we'll be right back. The Governator Schwarzenegger,

(01:24:07):
who I have so much fondness for because of his
contributions to the pantheon of action movie greatness and his
lines like I'll be back get through the chopp all
of it amazing, really a major part of my childhood,
which perhaps explains a lot of how I view the world.
Considering that a guy who was benching over four hundred

(01:24:31):
pounds was clearly taking performance in dancing drugs and played
Conan the barbarian all too well was like my hero
growing up. But anyway, I give Schwarzenegger a a wide berth.
You know, that guy's obviously made some mistakes. You know,
he's done some things that were not good, both as
a politician and as a as a private person. No

(01:24:54):
need for me to get into that, but you know,
really really arnold some of the stuff that we found
out in recent years was was a little tough. I'm glad,
I'm I'm glad I'm an older man that I can
see that we all make mistakes, and maybe I shouldn't
judge too much, although I guess I'm on a radio
show and I have to judge that. All said Arnold
Schwarzenegger is still waxing philosophical on policy and this is

(01:25:20):
just going too far. He was at south By Southwest,
which has become this major media music thing in Austin.
I've I've never been, but I'd like to go at
some point. I know it's going on Austin right now.
Next year, maybe I'll use it as another excuse to
go visit Austin. But he's down there and he says,
and he said this on Politico's Off Message podcast, which

(01:25:43):
I had never even heard of before. And yeah, there's
that that quote. Uh. He wants to take on oil
companies for quote knowingly killing people all over the world.
He right, He said that this is no different from
the smoking issue that tobacco industry new for years and
years and decades that smoking would kill people, would harm people,

(01:26:05):
and create cancer, and we're hiding that fact the from
people and denied it. Then eventually they were taking a
court and had to pay hundreds of millions of dollars
because of that. The oil companies knew from nine on
they did their own study that there would be global
warming happening because of fossil fuels, and on top of
that it would be risky for people's lives. He says

(01:26:25):
that this is like climate change man, this is you know,
he's hosting a major environmental conference in May and Vienna.
This is just all crap. This is what people do
now when they want to burnish their brands because climate
change gets you. So it gets you a very loyal,
very globalist, internationalist audience that it gets big donor supporters

(01:26:47):
to your side, and the people who don't believe in
this ignore it like a religion that they don't really
care about for the most part until they make us
deal with it. So that's why I just see this
as this is pandering. I mean, Schwartzenegger doesn't need to
do this um by the way he says, quote, we're
going to go after them and we're going to be
in there like an Alabama tick. Because to me, it's

(01:27:09):
absolutely irresponsible to know that your product is killing people
and not have a warning label on it, like tobacco.
Every gas station on it, every car should have a
warning label on it. Every product that has fossil fuel
should have a warning label on it. This is the
dumbest thing that the governator has said in a long time.
I don't know, maybe ever as a total aside here,

(01:27:29):
but one that I could not help but point out.
His phrase here, we're going to be in there like
an Alabama tic is all too close to what Jesse
the Body Ventura says in the movie Predator when referring
to a pill box of enemy he shoulds they're dugging
there like an Alabama tic. I don't think that's an accident, friends,

(01:27:52):
I think Schwarzenegger now in his political podcast, is dropping
some not so well known action movie lines because that's
just how he rolls. That's kind of a strange phrase
for a guy from Austria, from the Austrian Alps to use.
You know what I'm saying. It's not like he just
threw in a yodel here. He's saying Alabama tick, not
from Alabamare to the California. What is this guy? I'm

(01:28:12):
telling if you go back, we could even find it.
Maybe for tomorrow. There's a Jesse the Body venture a
line where he says that in in Predators, in like
an Alabama chick. You go um anyway, This is craziness.
This is, though, a an issue that we're gonna have
to deal with because people think that there's real money

(01:28:33):
involved as well as real power. And if it is
their belief that they will be able to sue for
hundreds of millions, maybe billions of dollars, they view that
as progress for social justice, even if it doesn't slow
down the global warming stuff. Right, So you gotta remember
that even if they're wrong on the science, they think
they're right in principle. Even if the global warming alarmists

(01:28:57):
believe that they're not going to be able to prove
the things that they say. If it isn't true, but
it rings true to borrow from that recent Trump biography,
guy Uh, then they feel like it's good enough because
they're gonna use this money for development the third world.
This becomes a massive wealth transfer scheme from you and

(01:29:19):
me to other parts of the world. And it's also
a form of paying for indulgences. Back in the old
Catholic Church in the medieval period, you know, you could
pay for your sins. This is that on a global scale.
This is paying money as an apology for how wealthy

(01:29:40):
and prosperous America has become and trying to prop up
the rest of the world with it, but it's ultimately
doomed by think too to failure. Attorneys general from various states,
you know, Schneiderman and others. Schneiderman's here in New York.
They thought about doing this. This is a movement that's
going to continue on it. It's gonna be like reparations movement,

(01:30:00):
the reparations movement in this country. He's also been talked
about for decades. And it'll get enough steam that you
actually have to pay attention to it because it will
become a legal issue, and then it'll get pushed back
and then we'll get steam. But the governorator is really
upsetting me here. Why don't you want to global it's
climate chance? Like it's really hard, you know, it's it's
much better if you have like the Conan O'Brien show

(01:30:21):
the face and you do the mouth, because really that
doesn't sound it's a comment, you know, you know, it
doesn't really sound like Schwarzeneger at all, but because you
can see his face, it sounds a little like it.
I gotta work on with Schwarzenegger because he's not really
German in the and it's not like yeah, coutin talk.
He's not in that realm at all. He's got it.
He's really got his own accent. He's really uh almost

(01:30:45):
like speaking his own his own version of English in
a way that Schwarzenegger style. It's disappointing though, to see
this with the governor. Anyway, we're gonna get into some
roll call coming up here in in just a few
minutes if you want to call in eight four or
four nine to eight five eight Buck. Also, you can
follow me on Twitter at buck Sexton. We'll be right back.

(01:31:18):
He's holding the line for America. Buck Sexton his back.
But Lettons are a virus in the Democratic Party. You
have to move on if this is our messaging. Thought

(01:31:39):
that I thought that it was time for them to
back off right now. Right now. I don't think they're
helping the party right message. There's one things are getting
testy on the view over this one. You know, the
old pro Hillary guard. They don't want to let it go.
You know, I'm just gonna say it. It's like boomers
with the rolling Stones. It's just getting weird now. They're

(01:32:01):
they're they're they're no longer like rock stars that should
be marrying twenty two year olds and doing all the
stuff they're doing. I'm just saying it's getting weird now.
You know. People are like, oh, the Stones and they're
still going strong, and like, there's only so far nostalgic
can really get you, folks, all right, And the same
thing true with the Clintons. There's a whole media group

(01:32:22):
of boomers out there in particular, who just the Clintons.
They associate the Clintons with the America that they know,
and and Hillary and Bill were gonna make it all
better and the big mean Republicans and Kent Star came
out for them, and they just can't let it go.
That's why Hillary can wander around just being terrible and
saying all kinds of really unhelpful things, and I mean

(01:32:42):
unhelpful from the perspective of being a Democrat, right, I
mean unhelpful for everyone. Republicans don't want to hear it,
and Democrats don't need to hear it, because all it
is is her whining about what happened. Here's what she's
been saying. His whole campaign make America Rate Again was
looking backwards. You know, you didn't like black people getting

(01:33:04):
right you don't like women, you know, getting jobs, you
don't want it. And you know see that Indian Americans
succeeding more than you are. Whatever your problem is, I'm
gonna solve that. So it was a symptom, but it
was also a cause. I mean, Hillary is amazing, you know,
she she can't even she she can't help herself. But

(01:33:29):
say that the reason that she couldn't win over the
sixty three million people who voted against her in the
last election was because they're a bunch of racist, redneck hillbilly's.
That's pretty much. It doesn't really take much on our
own plate by way of responsibility for any of this
doesn't really have anything to to add into the national
conversation other than just to say that, you know, Trump

(01:33:51):
is a racist. But I'm actually hopeful, and I will
say this, I am hopeful that Hillary is not going
to go anywhere for quite a while. I would like
her to be running around and used as a surrogate
for the Democrat Party as much as much as is

(01:34:12):
possible and as much as is feasible. I would like
to see Hillary Clinton running around and saying, you know, wow,
Trump is race instant, just saying all kinds of very
derogatory and disrespectful things about the electorate. Remember we were
just talking before to Selina Zeno about this Democrats play

(01:34:34):
in some of these states is going to have to
be going more moderate Democrats are gonna have to run
Lamb like for Connor Lamb, not like mad Lamb like
candidates in some of these other congressional races. And that's
gonna mean that they need to clear the slate as

(01:34:56):
much as possible of just the the detroitus of political
careers passed, you know, the the leftovers of the Clintons.
But it's just funny to see it because it's like
the media doesn't get the message. You know, they still
want to have Clinton access, and they still want to
have the favors of being in tight with the Clintons

(01:35:18):
and the fact that that's no longer something that's good
for the left of the Democrat Party. The message is
getting them pretty slowly. They haven't yet totally given up
on it. What's gonna end up happening though, and this
this takes me to the discussion we had last week
about Netflix. What's going to happen is that when they
start rolling out Obama as overall Democrat, you know, stand

(01:35:42):
in and Hillary as everything can say are we just
need we need more Obama and less Hillary. And I
think that that's going to be the way that this
all plays out. It will only be when the Democrats
have to stare down a mid term victory for Trump
that they finally show a real willingness us to back
off of the Hillary express. I don't think there are

(01:36:04):
some members of the media, and I mean big ones,
I mean big names, who think Hillary would be a
good idea. They think that's the only way to set
this right. I mean they are Their insanity over how
much they hate Trump is only matched by the delusion
of how much they love Hillary and how viable they
think she is politically. All Right, I just wanted to

(01:36:26):
throw that in there for a second. We're gonna get
into some roll call here, so stay with me. Well,
it's been quite a day here in the Freedom hond
I hope you've enjoyed what we've dived into together. I

(01:36:51):
always said doved into, but I think that's wrong. It's
gonna be dived And since I'm a have diven have
been dived to know something like that. Dove, Yeah, we
dove into together. I know, I'm just it's late in
the show, John, I'm tired. Uh. But speaking of which,
I'm just kidding. Thank you for the assistant. Speaking of which,

(01:37:12):
it's time for roll call. Hit it, Team Buck. It's
time for roll call. I like women the base drops.
That's of all you home. We're supposed to be like
oh C. J. Buck in the Hound. Alright, better stop

(01:37:35):
right now before you all turn this off. Okay, if
you want to be a part of roll call, you
can send an email to official Team Buck at gmail
dot com or Facebook dot com slash buck sexon. So
with that's my friends. Here we have Chuck, who is
writing to Buck. He says the following, I heard your

(01:37:59):
thoughts on Obama as Netflix show, very concise but really
no surprise. How is that any different than his presidency? Well, Chuck, oh,
he's not president anymore. But you're right. He is definitely,
or was and still is a media darling. And you
make a fair point, sir, So thank you very much

(01:38:21):
for that. James. Next up in our roll call mailbox,
he writes, Hi, Buck love the piece on the tariff,
But why hasn't anyone mentioned that having a tariff in
place might make companies wanting to buy, sell, and trade
with the USA come to the USA and set up
shop here and provide jobs and participate in our economy. James,

(01:38:46):
very interesting point, right, If there is an advantage to
producing equipment, material, whatever may be here in the US
of A, then couldn't we have reverse the reverse of offshoring.
Couldn't we have the reverse of sending our jobs overseas

(01:39:07):
overseas sends their jobs here. At some level, it's at
least feasible, It's possible. One of the big problems in
all this is the wage scale and wage expectations in
this country versus some of the other places where a
lot of production happens. I know I know a bit
about this because Ms Molly works for a very large retailer,
and a lot of the places where different clothing brands

(01:39:32):
get their stuff made are all of the world in
places where the labor is a lot cheaper. So that's
something else, and we're never going to be able to
match that list unskilled labor. When you look at the
different wage rates in countries based on unskilled labor, you know,
that's when I think you get into a problem with

(01:39:55):
expecting we're gonna move a lot of the jobs here
because people expect and need to be paid. We're here. Um, okay,
next up we have, Jim. I was listening to your
podcast about name changes and you mentioned Obama's name change.
I worked for a missionary outfit and talked to a
man who brought two Muslims to faith in christ. He

(01:40:20):
said he gave them, as they requested, new Christian names
and changed them before they were baptized into the faith.
I understand this is common among Muslims who convert. Uh
didn't you say Obama changed his name from a Christian
name to a Muslim one. Ps. My wife and I
retired and listen to you often now as I brought
her to the team, But instead of the usual saying

(01:40:40):
good night, I'll see in the morning after all call,
she has started saying good night. Shields High. You're pretty
good with your words. So is there some way you
could sort of uninstall what you've done? If not, don't
sweat it, Shields High, Jim, thank you for the kind
note as to Obama. He know he was born. Uh,
he was in fact born based on all the record
everything else we've seen Barack Obama, but he was went

(01:41:03):
by Barry, so he went by that as his preferred
name for a long time, and during the period when
he was living in Indonesia he went by the surname
of I believe the man that his why that his
mom was dating at the time, Satoro or living with
the time, whatever the case may be. So Obama's biography

(01:41:26):
is not top of mind these days. So there you
have it. Next up here, where did it go? Oh? Yes,
this is from Tricia, She writes. I so do appreciate
your calm discussions. Interesting you should mention, but at the
time of Trump's button comment, there was an uprising by

(01:41:49):
hungry and thirsty people. M hmm what he said some people.
I'm not sure where we're going here. Liberals need a
dose of self control. Gun control gives us dead children,
and birth control gives us Okay, what guess the tragedy
and murder depends which side of the womb you're on, Tricia.
Tricia carried a lot of territory in this email, so

(01:42:11):
I kind of gave you the abbreviated version. Thank you, Tricia.
Maybe I should start reading these before I go on there.
Although I kind of like the off the cuff nature
of of having to address them as we go. Occasionally
I have to bleep out some words in my mind,
and I've gotten good enough that I feel like very
few people could tell that that's what I'm doing. This
is from Mary, he writes. I'm a podcast listener. I

(01:42:32):
have been listening since mid seen, having seen you on Fox,
read you on Twitter, and heard you fill in Once
upon a Time for Rush Limbaugh. Your programs are excellent.
The history podcasts are outstanding. Both are most informative and enlightening. Yes,
I would even pay to get the Shields High podcasts.
One thought about Kim Jong uns interest in meeting President Trump.

(01:42:55):
I think Kim's buying time and creating a distraction while
they continue to supply Syria. Your mentioned of Massa's recent
chemical attack on the Damascus Damascus suburbs helps me come
to that conclusion. Your thoughts. Have a wonderful weekend and
a blessed week Mary. Well, Mary, thank you so much,
very kind of you. I do think that Kim is

(01:43:18):
most likely trying to buy time, but I'm not sure
he will be able to buy time in the way
that he is hoping because of the strength of the
sanctions that President Trump has put forth on North Korea.
They are in a tougher spot than they have ever
been in before economically, or at least since the famine

(01:43:41):
in the nineties. And I think that this this could
be a different outcome. I am hopeful that it could
be a different outcome. Um next up here? Uh, John,
you're right, Hey Buck. I've been listening to your show
for about a year. Oh sorry, this is from the
Facebook inbox and if you want to write to us
there Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton Jonens Hey Buck,

(01:44:05):
I've been listening to your show for about a year.
You do a great job. But I had a thought
that no one is seeming to consider. What if the
meeting with Kim Jong own is just a trap, an
assassination attempt Like the guy in Star Wars. It's a trap.
You know what I'm talking about, what he's going on,
It's a trap. What if the meeting with Kim Jong
un is a trap? An assassination attempts set up by

(01:44:27):
the North Korean leader and maybe Democrats. Clinton accolytes to me,
it doesn't seem far fetch when it's a guy who
assassinates his own family and people who are willing to
make deals with enemy's just a thought. Great show shields high, John.
I wouldn't worry about our our president in this situation
and this uh uh possible or likely planned meeting with
Kim Jong un. It'll be in a mutually agreed upon place,

(01:44:50):
and the consequences for North Korea of any such effort
like you are describing here would be severe, to say
the least, and it would not get the anywhere except
on the wrong side of an American broadside, and perhaps
a whole lot more than that. So I don't I don't.
I don't think that's a concern. You need to have
secret services, got it uh squared away, and and I

(01:45:13):
know some secret service folks, and they're very very good
at what they do. And I don't worry about the
president sitting down with another head of state. Uh. Here
we go, Karen, rites congratulations on scoring Jeff Sessions. Your
hard work is paying off well. Thank you, Karen, and
I the folks Nana d o J actually really thought
it was a good interview with Mr Sessions. That's always nice.

(01:45:33):
You know, the people that work for the boss reach
out to me. They're like, hey, I thought that went
really well. That, you know, the session's interview, so I'm
glad we'll have him back at some point. You know,
I can make some room for the Attorney general here
on my radio show, you know, time to time, I
feel like he's got some important stuff to say. He
is the most uh important law enforcement official in the country.
You're the highest law enforcement official in the country. So

(01:45:55):
you know, I make room for for excellent guests as
well as guests are at the cabinet level and above,
you know, cabinet level and above, we can fit you
in here. On the Buck Sexton Show, we try to
avoid deputy under assistant secretary for who gives a crap,
you know what I mean. So that's that's an unwritten
policy here on the show. Don next up here, he writes,

(01:46:17):
Buck love your show. I usually agree with most of
your points, but comparing Netflix's Ozark to Breaking Bad is
like calling both Bill ny and Carl Sagan scientists. They
were both engaging, but one was incredibly written and believably realistic,
while the other, though sinfully entertaining, was rather poorly written
and it was also ridiculously impossible. I'm sure you can

(01:46:38):
tell which I preferred. As always, I loved hearing your take,
but you were out to lunch on this one and
I had to call you and call you out on it.
Keep up the great work. You're still the best, Don
Don I'm not really going to defend myself on this
one too much because I think or I was trying
to say, at least that the genre is similar, so
if you liked one, you'll like the other. I wasn't

(01:47:00):
trying to say that they are almost equivalent in terms
of greatness, right. It's sort of like if I were
talking to you and I said, hey, I think you
will like uh, porter House if you've never had meat before,
and I'm like, I think you would like a Porterhouse steak,
and oh, by the way, if you like by the
let's let's take this back for a second, Ribby, which

(01:47:20):
is better than Porterhouse. We take this back for a second.
And then before that, I said, you hold on, wait,
if you like Ribby, you'll also probably like flank steak.
I'm not saying they're the same. I'm just saying in
my own way, as being the human Pandora that I am,
where I try to say, if you like this, you
like this, I think they're similar enough that all said,

(01:47:41):
I think your analysis is correct. Ozark is uh not
nearly as plausible, not nearly as well written, not as
good a show. But you are comparing a Netflix show
that's gotten very little pressed to what is arguably one
of the greatest, if not the greatest, scripted television dramas
of all time. So you know we've gotta keep it,

(01:48:01):
keep it here. But a fair a fair point made
from Don. I've got a lot of other movie recommendations
in the inbox, but I will have to wait and
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(01:48:25):
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for you tomorrow every day this week, as we always do.
Until then, my friends, no matter what mayhem may find you,
shields high,