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October 10, 2025 • 18 mins
Willie discusses the race for city council, and the latest in local politics with council candidate Steve Goodin.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hi, Billy cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Friday
afternoon the Triestead. Of course, the big news is tonight,
a lot of great high school football going on. And
then on Sunday at four twenty five, the Bengali's take
it off against the Packers, and of course we have
Flaco Wacko Flaccos in charge. We have just changed Joe
for another Joe, and we'll see what happens. Burrow to
Flacco and the game starts at four to twenty five.

(00:28):
All coverage starts here about nine oh five am in
the morning, and that gives Joe Wacko Flacco in additional
three hours to know the playbook and made me understand
what's going on and if he wins, if he could
beat the Packers twice over a four week period, he'd
be the first quarterback in an NFL history over a
four week period to beat the same team twice with

(00:50):
two different teams he's playing for, which is somewhat unusual
if you can follow my reasoning there. But the Bengals
do things quite unreasonable quite often. Why the Browns would
want to trade a functional quarterback to a division rival
that haven't beaten they haven't beaten yet. Cleveland Cincinnati plays
in about six weeks. Is beyond me. But Cleveland Browns
often make decisions no one understands, but joan of you

(01:11):
and I now is the great Steve Gooden. He's running
for city council. Unfortunately, he sees hope in the city.
And also he monitored the great debate last night. I
had on Corey Bowman a couple of days ago. I
have to have pure of all refuses to come on.
But nonetheless, Steve Gooden, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham shun.
First of all, I know you monitored the debate as

(01:32):
much as your good stomach. Give me your ideas of
what happened last night with a great debate for mayor.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, look, I think anybody that watched that debate that
didn't conclude that our mayor is a petty, didn't skinned
individual who has no business in an office like that,
They weren't seeing the same thing I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's all attack.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's all trying to paint everyone he disagrees with as
a mega fashion extremists. He has nothing he can say
about his record, nothing to say about the gun battle
on Walnut Street on Monday, night at five o'clock in
the afternoon when people were leaving their offices, where two

(02:16):
idiots got into a fight and started shooting and one
of them got shot in the hand.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It was just he has nothing to.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Say about the new crime stats this week that show
property crimes up more than one hundred percent downtown, that
now shows that downtown is our most violent neighborhood. Of
all the neighborhoods that starts the West End, Avondale, other
places where we've seen gun violence, Downtown is the worst.
He didn't talk about our restaurants being down twenty to
twenty five percent. He didn't talk about this River Roots

(02:44):
Festival having to cancel all their acts because of poor
ticket sales because people are afraid to come downtown.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
He didn't talk about any of that.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
He just tried to say that Corey Bowman was some
sort of an extremist or something, and you know, it
was just it was a disgrace.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, a few mothers.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
A few years ago, the Tall Stacks came here, it
was well attended, people going nuts. All the cruises were
sold out, the dinner cruises, etc. People downtown. It was
all great stuff. It was good. Now that we have
river Roots is happening, and no one knows that. I
was unaware until I saw Paula and her toadies a
couple of nights ago talking about river Roots. I'm thinking,

(03:22):
what is that? And so you're telling me something I suspected.
There's no buzz, there's no feeling that those in Boone, Kenton, Campbell,
those in Butler, Warren, those in Columbus want to come
to downtown Cincinnati, get a hotel room, walk around Fountain Square,
maybe with kevlar on, go to the shores of the
Ohigh and look at these old river boats, get some

(03:44):
rubber chicken, then go back to the room if they're alive.
And so that to me is a clear indicator indicator
about what's happening with river Roots, which is a dud.
And I would think the mayor would say.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
You know what these are?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
The pola is the last four years on crime, support
the police, support the firefighters. We need affordable housing, We
need better healthcare clinics, we need better programs of one
type or another.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
None of that was. He can't defend his record.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
So it's Tora Tora against Corey Bowman. So let's talk
about number one crime. You're downtown a lot. You're a
big time lawyer in addition to being unfortunately running for
city council. What have you discerned the last two or
three years the safety of downtown Cincinnati that those around
the region, No, I'm not going down there.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Well, that's exactly what's happening. I mean, you see it.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know. Look, I have an office right on this street.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
I lived downtown for years, and I can tell you
it is less safe than it was four years ago.
They used COVID as an excuse to pull back on
some of the policing. We have a police staffing crisis,
which we've known for many years. There's not enough officers
to walk the beat, and a lot of the officers
are approaching retirement. Agent cannot be made under the contract

(04:58):
to work mandatory over time. It's a disaster. It's not safe.
People want to use our downtown. We have all these
beautiful new attractions, new buildings, new restaurants, but they're suffering.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
And I look, you know it's.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So bad now that the Inquirer has a regular column
every month that tells you which restaurants closed.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Okay, they've got there.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Keith panned off he's a great writer for the actually
does a column on closures and openings. Okay, so, and
there's always more closures and openings, and most of them
run in that downtown area. It's killing these small businesses.
There are people who have put their entire lives, savings,
everything on the line to try to open small businesses
there because they were told, look, the city's investing it

(05:38):
over the rhine, investing in downtown.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
But if you don't invest in.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Public safety, all the buildings, all the rehabs in the
world don't make sense. If people are afraid of getting shot,
they're afree of getting shot. And on this River Roots
tall Stack thing, I mean, you know, all the music acts,
all the big music acts, they had to cancel and
pull away. I mean they lost millions on this thing,
I'm told. And because the last time we had a
music festival, the Cincinnati Music Festival, the Old Jazz Fest,

(06:02):
we made international news because of the attack on this
Holly and those people and the Fourth Street beat down
as they call it. So of course the older people
with people who have options and want to choose word
to spend their money, they're not going to come down
and take that risk and we also go I mean,
my daughter runs a restaurant over in Covington, that Covington
and Bellevue were the ones that are reaping the benefit.

(06:25):
They lines out the door from people who don't want
to come downtown because it's safe because you can see
police officers walking around Covington. Yes, because Bellevue has lights
and they haven't made so you know, people are voting
with their feet. And it's to the Dutchman of everyone.
And this is the council and active. They don't want
to talk about it. They have to go negative because
they really have nothing else to say.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
And on Borough Love and Kevin had a headline the
other day about on the great debate is the National
Guard needed in Cincinnati? Instead of asking the question why
is the National Guard needed in Cincinnati? What are thees
of the current administration that incentivize criminals and disincentivized police.
One of the great statements in Last Night is about

(07:08):
all the crime. We're enabling police to do their job,
is what aftab Pierraval says. We're enabling police to do
their job.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
No, they're not.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
There's millions of dollars being spent on social welfare programs
that could have hired an additional two hundred police officers
instead of hiring cops, they're paying arm robbers one thousand
dollars a month as part of an ambassador program not
to commit any more arm robberies, including travel vouchers to
other American cities. Plus, I'm told some of the council

(07:37):
candidates have Iris Roley and others that are being enabled
to go after council candidates personally, and of course Iris
Roli can do that. She makes one hundred and six
or more thousand dollars a year as an ambassador of type.
She's the implementer of the so called so called initiative
to improve the relationship between the city and the comps,

(08:00):
and she's being paid to attack. Can you explain? Have
you been the subject of an attack because the collaborative representative,
not an employee of the city, making more than cops
and firefighters, is being incentivized under the collaborative to attack
council candidates that don't like Tad Pureval.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Have you been subjected to that?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I've been subjected to scathing, although I think in effective
attacks by misrule lee particularly online. And look, here's the
way it works. This is the new version of patronage
at city Hall. You know, they do have civil service
protections for full time employees.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
They can't get involved in politics.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
So what they do is they give these big contracts
to so called consultants or to nonprofits. A lot of
them are bogus, and that's how they defund the police.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
They fund the money to these places.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
So Iris, you know, used to be an activist outside
the city Hall and some of the stuff she did
was good, some of it was bad, but she was
on her own time and she had a right to
do it. Now she has a paid city content tractor
and through a loophole, is not subject to civil service
protections and is clearly being used to attack people like

(09:08):
me that they see as being you know, actually, I
think the attacks are good news for me because it
means they must have some polling that show people like
me and Smitham and others are in the hunt. But yes,
they've come after me. It's very clearly coordinated. She and
Damon Lynch. You know, hundreds of people from I guess
from these church communities that they associate with, are on
Facebook and other places attacking me. My favorite is a

(09:31):
guy that keeps calling me well it gives me a
white piece of dog crap every day I post something.
He puts that on there actually doesn't say crap, but
I guess I can't say the.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Full thing here.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
And my other favorite is one who keeps calling me,
quote a mediocre douchebag, which which is particularly offensive because
I thought I was an extraordinary douchebag. I really work
hard at it, so I was really hurt by that.
The mediocre part really hurts. But this is the kind
of stuff they do, and these are tax dollars paying
this woman who has no real metrics. We can't tell

(10:01):
what she does with her days, but she's out there
not promoting the mayor but attacking his critics. Well, now
that should bother anybody who from the taxpayer standpoint.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Does she put in forty tough hours a week?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Is she up there eight o'clock on Monday morning, she'll
be reporting to the collaborative. And then what happened a
few months ago is when she interfered with arrest and
over the rhine the police union Ken Kober wanted her arrest.
It in fact that he told the cops the next
time she interferes with an arrest, arrest her and that's
the number one said. That's exactly what she wants. She

(10:35):
wants to be a victim. So how can anyone say
Irish Rowlie is performing collaborative work when she has no
work schedule, she has no job. She collects serious money.
I understand, a three year contract worth four hundred and
fifty thousand dollars a year in order to collaborate with
who about what? And how can you be attacked when

(10:57):
you're not in office at all? And those office not
performing or not attacked explain that one to me?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, I can tell you, I mean, I mean, apparently
she's curious at me because I went on the VXU
radio program and had the temerity to criticize her arrangement.
And we've also called out the fact publicly that she's
got her son working for her company. So again, if
she were an actual civil servant, the nepotism rules would apply.

(11:26):
So she's funneling money to her son as a full
time or a part time employee making forty five hundred
bucks a month. And again there's no metrics, there's no
time sheets. From what we can tell, I mean, we
don't know what they're doing or not doing. But I
can also tell you this when I talked to King Kober,
and I talked to my friends at the FOP, who
I am proud endorsed our candidacy. Her actions are one

(11:49):
of the number one, probably the number two issue with morale.
Number one is staffing by far, but number two it's
having people like Iris reporting to the mayor and the
city manager or who are openly critical of police, not
just individual officers but out there interfering with the rests,
but just critical of police in general, and calling to

(12:10):
defund the police by steering money toward her program. This
awful community responders thing they have. They've got a couple
millions stuck into that where they send social workers out
to crime scenes to do god knows what. Eventually when
I'm gonna get shot. And I always say, if you
want to see how they're really defunding the police, drive
over some of these speed humps that they spent tens
of millions of dollars on. They're using those as an

(12:31):
excuse not to bring officers into patrol. The speed humps
are a form of defunding the police. It's tens of
millions of dollars. There's a whole recruit class plus in
those speed humps, and they just don't want the officers
out there doing traffic inter addiction anymore and writing tickets.
It's one of the reasons we have so many guns, frankly,
because a lot, as you know from practicing criminal law,

(12:52):
a lot of guns are recovered at traffic stops. That's
just part of how it happens. So we don't really
meaningfully do traffic in the city anymore on the speed humps.
And that's a form of defunding the police. That's the
kind of thing that she's Those are the initiatives she
and people like that have been pushing.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
That can't be true.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Crazy, None of this is true because the mayor said
he enables police to do their job, you know that.
And the other thing he said is affordable housing. I
like to know, and Kevin Aldridge push pushed back on this.
What is affordable housing the people's judge and I, you know,
want to downsize a little bit. Every now and then
I look at Oakley or Hyde Park. God knows, I
never lived downtown or OTR, but we wouldn't mind living

(13:31):
in Oakley or maybe Hyde Park and say we looked
at these new housing being constructed on at Oakley.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
It's going to be home. Rama. Do you know what
it costs at the minimum price to go in Oakley?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
I can only guess you're in the four to five
grand a month in some of those for the departments.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
From what I understand, Well, if you want to buy one,
it's one point three to one point six million, I
say one point three to one point six million in Oakley.
And if you want to have a rental, if you
want to run a place in and around hyde Park Square,
it's forty five hundred dollars a month. And so I
would ask the average American is one point three million?

(14:10):
Is that affordable? Secondly, is forty five hundred dollars a
month for an apartment?

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Is that affordable?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
So instead of talking about, well the last four years,
give me some results on affordable housing or development like
the Hyde Park debacle, Instead of doing that, he talks
about our plan provides more affordable housing.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
What the hell does that mean? It's untethered the reality.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, well, nobody knows what affordable housing means when they
talk about it. I mean, if you're getting really technical,
and I do a lot of work in this world
with development, what he's really talking. What I guess he's
trying to talk about is this you know, income restricted
housing that the federal government pays for, you know, through
HUD dollars that they're trying to push. They're pushing it
on the same neighborhoods over and over, like the West

(14:56):
End and Bond Hill and Price Hill, and they don't
want anymore. They've at it with that kind of affordable housing.
But what the what they typically call what these developers
called naturally occurring affordable housing, which is you know, reasonable
rent because of good supply. We don't have that. Because
of the way our the city tax abatements have worked.
They're incentivized to build these really high end units and

(15:17):
get really high rents.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
And try to get really high stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I mean, maybe iHeart will co sign with you on
a on a million dollar mortgage at the end, maybe
you could talk about that like some of your contracts.
But it is not affordable to the average person. This
Hyde Park development thing, the battle there, those apartments were
going to go for forty five hundred a month. Yeah,
and they portrayed that as anyone who was against that.
They said, you're a nimby who's against affordable housing and

(15:42):
it's just nonsense. I mean, forty five hundred dollars a
month it did me to qualify for that is you know,
you would need an income well over two.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Hundred rand well six sixty thousand a year in rent.
And so if that's thirty percent of what you're making,
you'd have to make two hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars to maybe two fifty after paying taxes.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
And that a doubt.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
And af TAB Pierreval says that's affordable to buy something
in Oakley one point three million, or to get an
apartment in Hyde Park is forty five hundred dollars. That's affordable.
And he stands up there and I'm one last issue.
I'm told we are awaystation to the glories of the
administration of af Tab Pureval, either in Columbus or Washington, DC,

(16:22):
whether it's the clerk's office, running for the Congress. He
didn't want to become the mayor. It happened because of
would happened to PG Sittingville. That's the only reason. So
he's on his way to glory. And now he's going
to use all of his success in Cincinnati to launch
a nationwide or statewide campaign for something af TAB for Ohio.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
How would that fly in Steubenville.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I think you know, I'm told he already has all
those website domain names purchased, but I think he may
as well just wait, he may as well just retire
those black because you know my understanding.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Isa.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Look, you know I've talked from our friends, and well
I think he's well, first they're going to sue him.
I think that's some like intellectual property, copyright infringement that'll
catch up with him. But this poor guy is going
to have a hard time if you ever run statewide.
I mean, this guy has been not just not endorsed
by the police union but the FOP. They voted no

(17:21):
confidence in it in his performance, and that will haunt
him throughout the rest of his political career if indeed
he has one.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
But Clark courts have some wastations.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, well he did a number on the courthouse too.
A lot of these judges that he handpicked and selected
and encouraged to run are the ones that are letting
these people out on low bond. So he has been
a very consequential figure in town, both in the courthouse
and at city Hall, and in a very bad Way,
so he got a record that will haunt him everywhere.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Save Good and keep being a douchebag.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
It comes naturally to me. Thank you very much for
your time.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Now you're a.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Lawyer, so that it fits Steve Good and thank you
very much. We get the government we deserve. Let's continue
with more Steve Thank you news Next, that's your home
of non douchebags. News Radio seven hundreds WLW
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