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October 13, 2025 • 16 mins
Willie breaks down President Trump's Middle East Peace Deal with talk show host Bill O'Reilly.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American, has always my honor to
have on every now and then Bill O'Reilly. He's done
more in broadcast media than anyone perhaps in the history
of the world, because he's spent fifty years either at
ABC or CBS. He also has, of course for sixteen
or seventeen years to top rated cable show. He's probably
the most consequential on the largest selling nonfiction author in

(00:28):
the history of the world this side of the Bible,
and the new book is out. But I also want
to mention that Bill O'Reilly and Stephen A. Smith are
going to be at the Kennedy Center on Wednesday night
hosted by Chris Cuomo News Nation to talk about iguinst
the current events and what's going on and Bill O'Reilly
once again, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Bill,
first of all, I would be remiss if I didn't

(00:50):
get from you. Some of the evil in the world
was HESBLA Hamas, etc. A twelve of the worst of
the worst. I want to get your take on what's
happening is we speak in the Middle East, and also
the incapability of the mainstream media actually give President Trump
any credit where does this rank if you would write
a book on this subject, maybe in two or three
years when things shake out, what does your crystal ball

(01:11):
say is going to happen?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Well, I think that the president has accomplished a great
feat and obviously not easy to deal with these terrorists
and get the twenty surviving hostages out in the twenty
six bodies as well, So that's in stone. The importance

(01:34):
of it is that it will extend into the Chinese
negotiations which are coming up, and maybe even to Putin
as the Arabs coalesce around the Trump administration. So that's
very important for the world. So the Arabs, it kind
of shifted from being an anti American to pro American

(01:55):
and obviously they control the energy center on the planet.
So a lot of these things that are people say, well,
that's a good thing, but they don't know the ramifications
going forward. So on the cover of my book, Confronting
the Evil, which broke number one on the New York
Times List built twentieth time that's happened is the Iatola Holmoni.

(02:22):
He's on the cover with Putin, with Mao Zetongue and
with Hitler, and there are eleven other mystery iNTS inside
the book. I put the Iyatola on because he's responsible
for Amas. I mean, he's dead now, but the guy
took over from him. They fund an arm a moss,
and they continue to cause death and destruction all throughout

(02:47):
the world. And this is the evil that we're talking about.
So I think that Trump, who many in the American
press believe is evil, I think he's effectively neutral lizing
the real evil forces in a way that obviously Biden
could never have done.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
You know, Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler, you have Vladimir Putin,
you have many others, Malsey Tongue, But the one one
of these evil doers that actually use God as the
reason for his evil, does I toot it come in
In a sense, the scale of his evil doesn't even
approach what Hitler did or malse Tongue has done. But

(03:28):
as far as using God as a reason for evil,
the eye Tota believes that God demands him to brutally
kill large numbers of non believers, as he described as
Christians and Jews or and his viewer cockroaches and mice
and bugs. Is I totally kind of standing alone? Because
he says God's telling me to do this.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, most of these people. When Nathan Bedford Forrest died,
he was the founder of the ku klutz Klanic Confederate
general who massacred people of Union troops. I mean, the
guy is off the chart evil. When he died, he
said on his deathbed to his family, I know God

(04:09):
understood what I did. Yeah. The I Telamoni, as well
as most human beings, believes what he wants to believe,
and so he wanted to believe that all Jews should die,
just like Hitler want to believe that all should Jews
should die. This is, of course, a psychiatric disorder. Doesn't

(04:32):
mean these guys don't know what they're doing. They know,
but rational people don't think that way. But the evil
that I write about in this book could have been
contained on every one. Maybe not Jengis Khan with the
horsemen in Mongolia, that that would have been hard to do.

(04:53):
But every other evil that we write about could have
been stopped if good people had confronted it. But they
did not. They looked away or they signed on, which
is fairly shocking.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, including the collective evil you have. The evils include
Genghis Khan Caligula, the Roman emperor, Henry the Eighth, the Evil,
the slave trader, Stalin Hitler, Mao, the Ayatola Komane, the
Mexican drug cartels. As far as a body count doesn't,
Mao and Stalin stand alone at the top of that list.

(05:29):
As far as killing tens of millions of people.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Now is number one mass murderer whoever lived. And it
was his own people he was killing, which is just
and where we describe it. He was starving them to
death because you wanted a whole different society. And oh
my god, it was Stalin. Hard to tell because there
was no repertise in Russia, but you know there were

(05:56):
no rights and then stalwand you dead. You were dead,
just like Putin, Putin munch dead you did. In fact,
Stalin is Putin's idol, it's his mentor, it's who he
wants to be. If you can imagine this, Hitler the
same bracket. Human life been nothing to them. But in

(06:16):
our society, Bill we're seeing arrives in evil in America
and no doubt about it. In the criminal justice system,
particularly when in many cities the hierarchy does not want
to punish criminals any longer and will allow them to
go out and commit violent crime ato violent crime after

(06:36):
violent crime. That's evil. And so I get real personal
about this stuff in the book.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
As far as what's happening in major cities, to me,
one cannot of imagine a worse form of government and
then happening today in Chicago and Portland and Los Angeles,
the evil being perpetrated there. But it's not covered by
the media as that way at all. In fact, most
of the media coverage is understanding against Donald Trump, who's
simply trying to save the folks in those major American cities.

(07:07):
Our magnificent cities have been destroyed by the policies of
the liberal Democratic Socialist Party. And some say, well, why
don't the people of Chicago or la or Portland, Memphis
arise themselves and throw off their governments. What do you
say about leaving them alone? Because the people themselves may
want to have individuals like Karen Bess or like Brandon Johnson,

(07:29):
they kind of went them in charge, and it's not
up to us to save them. It's up to the
people of Chicago to save themselves. What would Bill to
Rally say about that one?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, I don't want dead bodies. That's what I would say.
And just the fact that you vote for somebody who
is going to create mayhem and foster evil doesn't mean
that I, if I have the power, like the president
of the United States, should stand aside and let it

(07:59):
have it. It's a more noble cause, Bill, if you
you know, I combine reporting with history, the real noble
people like Abraham Lincoln and George Washington, these people Lincoln
could have said easily, you know, and like all the
ten presidents before him, We'll let the slavery thing go,

(08:23):
you know, let that look, it's in Mississippi. Doesn't deal
with us. But the noble people want to put an
end to this kind of violence and this kind of danger.
And I think Trump falls into that category. But his
weakness is he doesn't fully explain the why about what

(08:48):
he's doing.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
He has a sense as to what to do that's right,
but as rhetoric often divides among those who don't fully
understand what's happening in our major cities, you have Vladimer
Putin on the list. I have a fear down the
road when Putin, who's a rat is cornered as far
as using a theater type nuke of one type or
another to change everything. According to most reporting, Russia's in

(09:13):
serious trouble going down the tubes, along with maybe Iran
has a terrible water shortage, can't keep the can't keep
the lights on, and in Russia it looks like believe
it or not, I think at this point most are saying,
you know, Ukraine has a standof or they might be
actually winning. Do you fear one of the evil doers
in your book Confronting Evil Vadimir Putin would do something

(09:35):
completely in character to kill millions of Ukrainians to save
his own hide.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
He killed his own people. There are already a million
casualties in Russia because it is stupid war. He doesn't
care about human life at all. The odds are that
Putin is not going to be in a position to
use a nuclear weapon. Would he, Yes, I believe he would. So.
I was at Yankee Stadium of a nine to eleven with
President Trump. You may have seen some of that news coverage, yep.

(10:04):
And the President invited me. He wanted to talk about
Putin and Charlie Kirk and a few of the things.
And I handed him a copy of my book, which
was only out two days on nine to eleven, and
I said, look, I know you're busy, mister president, but boy,
you got to read this putin chapter because he's not
the same guy was when you were president first time around.

(10:26):
He has deteriorated, which always happens. If you embrace evil,
you get worse. There's no rehab. And so I hand
him the book and then the event unfolded. Well, about
twenty four hours later, I got a text from him.
I said, whoa, And I said, yeah, I mean, this
is a whole new thing you're dealing with here. But

(10:47):
I think the president and his people have a fairly
good geopolitical strategy right now. But again, got to be
very disciplined because it's an ultra dangerous world right now.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
You say in your book Confronting Evil that the concept
of evil is universal, ancient, and ever present today. The
Biblical Book of Genesis defines that when Cain kills his
brother Abel out of jealousy, as long as human beings
have walked, evil has been close by. You have a
character Genghis Khan, which I vaguely understand what he kind
of did. Can you put more and meat on the

(11:21):
bones of what Genghis Khan did, and why he's in
your book Confronting Evil Genghis Khan.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, Jengis Khan conquered more territory than any human being
in the history of civilization, and to this day what
he did resonates in this world that every one of
the miscreants I have and Confronting Evil bill is relevant
to today. That was the cutpoint. If they aren't relevant

(11:50):
to today, I didn't put them in the book. So
Jenga's Khan Mongolia backwater. He develops this type of warfare
where the Mongols rode on horseback, and that was the
first time that happened. The Romans marched, they didn't use
horses widely. Khan then went from the Pacific shore of

(12:15):
China all in hungry, slaughtering everybody, conquering all its territory.
The Chinese people were so devastated by the Mongols that
they built the Great Wall of China. And when I
was there in May, I went up to see that
it is an incredible site that they could build this

(12:38):
thing that high up in these mountains. But what Jenghis
Khan did to the Chinese people made them suspicious of
foreigners forever. And the Chinese people have never had one
day of freedom and the entire existence of China because

(13:01):
the people are so afraid psychologically that they always gave
power to dictators, and that is why you have that
communist hierarchy. Now he goes all the way back to
Djengis Khan and that mindset. Do you fear?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
I see naval movements that the Jijuping is encircling Japan's
encircling parts of the Philippines. Of course, Taiwan is the
crown jewel, which they don't need at all. They should
be a trading partner, but somehow they want to lash out.
If you would write a book in five years, how's
that going to work out? With China, which is immortal enemy.

(13:41):
They have malware and our communication systems and our banking systems,
and our water systems and our communication systems. I fear
unlike the Soviet Union, that was a military power, it
was not an economic power. China is different. What are
the goals do you think of Jijiupang when he's going
to go after Taiwan and he says it, and how
would that break the world at that point?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well, I watch Taiwan, but they can't destroy their economy.
And that's the strength that the United States holds over them.
So yeah, one point five billion people in China, second
to India. You's peopleout to eat. There's no four to
one cas No, you can't run around with your AMEX card. No, Okay,

(14:29):
these to be about to eat. And in order for
the government, who runs everything, to make sure they eat,
the government has to export Chinese products to America. Okay,
France ain't gonna cut it. They need our markets. If
they don't have our markets, if there's a war or

(14:52):
it's an economic boycotts or whatever it may be, then
they got trouble.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I did not want to leave this.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
People can't eat, then they can't control them.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
And jeezul ping could have suffered from lead poisoning.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Uh. Let's I'm much more optimistic about Trump making a
deal with China than Putin. Well, but the United States
does make a deal with China, that'll put an enormous
amount of pressure on Putin.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Looks like Trump can make a deal with a mass
he can make a deal with China. Can't make a
deal with the King. Jefferies. That's a different story to
tell us about collig Colliguilla. Am I saying that correctly?
And tell me about that.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Was the reason the Roman Empire dissolved and uh, the
most popul nation on earth by far, just like the
United States is now. And the reason that Rome fell
was because of the people the Roman citizen basically abdicating
all responsibility for doing good and embracing the evil that

(15:57):
Caligula and Nero and O there is champion. I mean,
when you're murdering people in the colisseum, Yeah, and grewsome
ways and people are cheering for that murder. You got
a problem.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, we could spend all day with you confronting evil.
I hope you got several more left in You've been
doing media for about fifty years with great success. The
number one seller of nonfiction books in the world is
Bill O'Reilly. And once again, Bill O'Reilly, thanks for coming
on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Bill, you're a great
American to keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Thanks for having me. Bill, we'll talk soon.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
God bless you. Thank you very much. I let's continue
with more some nasty characters, and I think among the
nastiest characters are Vladimir Putin right now and of course,
the iy Toller who spawned Amas and Hezbla Boca, haram
Isis and all the rest. And it was all done
in the name of God, that God wanted this to happen.
So let's continue with more news coming up. You're home
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