October 15, 2025 • 16 mins
Who is to blame as the government shutdown goes into it's third week. Senator John Husted of Ohio joins Willie to break down what the Republicans are trying to pass to reopen the government, and what the Democrats are demanding.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Billy Cunningham, the Great America. We've heard from judges now
in the Hamlin County and also later on we have
the scheduled any way, Britney Ruby to come on. I
talked to her this morning at length. Scheduled to come
on about two o'clock today. We also have Supreme Court
Justice show deaters coming on. Have everyone coming on, including
the junior senator from the great state of Ohio, Senator
(00:27):
John Houston, who's busy in Washington. Not too busy with
the government shutdown. A senator, I saw you a week
ago presiding in the Senate, and I felt particularly proud
you were trying to get the government shut down to conclude,
but the Democrats won't do that. Before we talk about
the government shutdown, what is your perception of what's happening
now in the city of Cincinnati and what role, if any,
(00:49):
can the state and or the Feds play in bringing
peace to River City.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, Bill, it's great to be with you. It's an
unfortunate thing because I say this about cities. Your number
one job when you're the mayor, the chief of police
the city council is protect people and their property. If
you fail to do that, you fail to do that
fundamental thing, then people will not visit your city, people
(01:16):
will not invest there, people will leave, people businesses will
move out of your downtown, your area. And it's harming,
and it harms the people of your city the most
because not only does it make them unsafe, but it
also makes it weakened and economically weakens your your city.
And the only ex I mean, you tell me what
(01:37):
the explanation is to this, but why wouldn't you have
a police there all the time, over time, showing the
presence and basically saying, no, a heart of our central
business district, entertainment district, it will be safe. We invite
the world to come to Cincinnati because it's the safest city. Instead,
it's becoming a very dangerous city center.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The call that was an effect. PNG is grossly expanding
its footprint in Mason. They're getting prepared to downsize their facilities.
You know Macy's has moved out. It is not going
to become try to become apartment buildings. Most of the
large businesses in Cincinnati have their own police department because
they can't trust the city. I am told the chief
of police THIJI is about to become the fall guy.
(02:22):
She's about to get a copy of the home game.
Because the mayor's policies don't work. The mayor did a
big news conference. I'm not sure you were there, but
the governor was there, the FBI was there, the Department
of Treasury was there, the US Marshall was there, County
prosecutors there, County sheriff was there, accepting state help that
never arrived because the mayor and share along the city manager,
(02:43):
it never triggered it by requesting it. And when you
look at the memorandum of understanding, it involved two shifts
a month having the state involved. And now after yesterday's
news conference, it appears the city they finally have said
to the county and to the state, we need help
get it done. We can't fix the roads. We have
potholes everywhere, Bridges are falling down, and the police force
(03:07):
does not listen greatly to the chief of police, order,
the mayor, order the city manager. That's another complete different issue.
We have car break ins. We have more than twenty
thousand shots every fired every year rattling around Cincinnati. We're
gonna have about four hundred people shot. We're gonna have
about one hundred people murdered. We're gonna have about two
thousand cars stolen and about fifteen thousand car break ins.
(03:30):
And you know, John, excuse me, Senator, Cincinnati is like
seven miles by eight miles. It's small. The public school
system has forty six percent of the children are chronically absent,
and if you're a black boy, you're chronically absent seventy
one percent of the time. On top of all this,
we have two thousand kids in foster care. We have
(03:50):
a complete meltdown of the institutions, and Corporate America is
voting with their moving truck to get out of downtown Cincinnati.
What role, if any, could then national Guard play. I
know that was a topic and the mayor debate, and
you're kind of in charge of that in a sense.
What role does a National Guard play to bring order
to our city?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, Bill, look, you needn't look very far away. Cleveland, Ohio.
The governor just sent a special violent crime reduction unit
to Cleveland with the Highway Patrol and in one weekend
they captured five eight eight felony arrests, six illegal firearms recovered, okay,
(04:32):
and they captured a guy who was part of a
mass shooting last year. Okay, and like literally this was
in one weekend when when the city of Cleveland finally
relented and said, hey, we're going to accept help from
the Highway Patrol. The governor sent him in and they
captured all of these people who've been terrorized in the community.
(04:53):
You can do the same thing in Cincinnati. It's just
that you need to have a mayor and a chief
of police who are to let it happen. That you
can do this with law enforcement. The challenge for the
National Guard is that they don't have they don't have
the ability to arrest people. They can protect, they can
create a presence, but they don't have they don't have
law enforcement powers. That's why sending in the highway Patrol
(05:16):
is a better way to do it, because they can
arrest people, they can coordinate with law enforcement, and they
can clean up the streets. But you've got to have
local leaders who will.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Do this didn't happen. We had this big news conference
a month ago, it didn't happen. Had another one yesterday
and what's our chief of police looked in the camera
and told her officers in uniform what to do. She
didn't tell them, she told the news media, and she says,
if you're committing crime in Cincinnati, we will confront you.
(05:46):
We will confront you. And I'm thinking confront me. I
want someone to be arrested. We have found I.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Will arrest you and prosecute you to the fullest extent
of the law and get you off of our streets
the public to protect businesses and do the thing that
we need to keep people safe, that's what she needs
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No, we're gonna confront you. And I have, you know,
the county corner last me some markets.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Maybe maybe they could maybe they could have admonished them.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To You're gonna get You're gonna get time out in
the corner. I mean, come on, she says, we will
confront you. And if I'm a gangbanger with guns and
I'm selling drugs, breaking into cars and god knows, burglarizing,
I have the chief of police that looks like she
belongs on a can of Dutch Boy paint, who's telling me,
I'm gonna confront you. It's like confront We have open
(06:34):
air drug use, marijuana frequently being smoked, and I hope
the President doesn't do much with that, by the way,
because it's gone into the children. We have open air
drug markets, we have homeless encampments, we have car break ins,
we have people getting shot on Fountain Square, and the
chief police says, you will be confronted.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
What you got me?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Now? I'm good, Now, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm good. Bill. I talked to some Cincinnati officers recently
and I asked this question. I said, I said, look
what happens when you arrest people, because it's more than
just it's more than just the law enforcement. And then
you send them to court. Are they putting them away?
Are they Are they taking the criminals off the street
(07:16):
and putting them in jail? And one officer told me
a story that there's a gas station a corner where
there's constantly fights, there's constantly drug deals going on. They arrest,
they arrest them, they take them to jail, and when
less than twenty four hours, they're back on the streets.
So the criminals know that you develop a culture in
your city based on whether you're tough on crime or
(07:38):
you're weak on crime. And once the criminals know that
there are no consequences for committing crimes, guess what they
commit the crimes And that's the culture that's being developed
that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
The Shell station on Central Parkway is the site of
massive drug sales captured on video on a daily basis,
and there are no arrests. When I talked to Ken
Kober of the FOP, they tell me we have the
indirect message not to arrest people unless it's required, because
Scottie Johnson and others on city council don't want to
(08:13):
go hands on with someone. If you go hands on,
you might have an incident, you might have a warrant,
you might find out he's got a gun. We don't
pull people over for speeding reckless operation because we have
speed bumps. The speed bumps take the place more queue
the speed bumps because the city council doesn't want police
to pull somebody over, run their warrants. Okay, you don't
(08:35):
have a license, don't have insurance, their car's not registered,
got guns there. They don't want that to happen. So
we have speed bumps instead of cops. And on that point,
about an hour ago, ahead on Judge Josh Berkowitz, who's
the presiding judge in Hamley County Municipal Court, he put
the cheese on the cracker. He said half the judges
in my court believe in restorative justice. So I say
(08:55):
to him, Okay, I think I know what is restorative justice.
If you're a judge, that the fact is, it needs
to restore justice to the criminal. A many times the
so called black community, the great majority of black kids
have nothing to do with crime. But the face in
Cincinnati is a black male face. And so if you
come out of the restorative justice movement, you believe in
(09:16):
no cash bonds, and you believe that putting a kid
in jail for that child is worse than the victim
penalty inflicted upon the victim. We have a a juvenile
court judge, Carrie Bloom, who's given talks on this subject
and what she says in juvenile court, I do not
want to put black kids in jail. It's reparations, it's
(09:37):
about slavery, it's about affirmative action, it's about DEEO. I
don't want to put black kids in jail. And she said,
by the way, a white female. But nonetheless she says,
half the judges in Amley County do not sentence anyone
to jail. We have another good judge, a friend of mine,
Alison Hathaway, who released some eighteen and a half year
old on a gun charge. She reduced it, and then
(09:58):
six weeks later he kills a sixteen year old on
OTR on her watch, and now that kid's going to
face life imprisonment. So what do you do, Senator, If
half the judges or more in Hamley County do not
want to sentence anybody to jail and don't want to
lock them up, They want them all along the streets,
what do you say about that one?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They got to go to them out. That's what you
gotta do with people to do that, Billy, this is
pretty simple. It's not the people. We've got to start
emphathizing with the victims and not the criminals. Okay, the
victims of these crimes are in many cases, people who
live in who live in the city. They're typically not visitors.
(10:38):
There are people who call Cincinnati home, and you're not
protecting the innocent people of Cincinnati from the criminals in Cincinnati.
And it doesn't take much. You start arresting people for
committing crimes and putting them in jail, and that will
send a message to other peoples do not do this.
It will act as a deterrent. But right now. If
(11:00):
you send the message that if you commit a crime
there will be no consequences, that is an incentive. That
is that is basically saying, go ahead and commit crimes
in Cincinnati. I wish it. I wish it. I wish
admonishment and stern warnings were enough in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
But they're not confrontations. We're going to con you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We're going to come on accountability. And that means that
every once in a while. That means that every once
in a while somebody is unfortunately going to go to
jail and going to go to prison. But that sends
the message that that behavior will not be tolerant. Tolerated,
it becomes a community standard in which people follow it.
Community standards are set by your leadership, your leadership and
(11:40):
the law enforcement and your judges. And if they don't
set a community standard that crime will not be tolerated,
then they will set a community standard by default that
crime will be tolerated.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Before we talk about the government shutdown, two different judges
have told me that after a peer of all the
mayor at these endorsement opportunities for their democratic liberal judges
would always ask the question, do you believe in restorative justice.
Do you believe in no cash bonds? And do you
believe in treatment and lieu of incarceration? Unless the judges answer,
(12:12):
I believe in all those things. Af ted pirival and
the Hamilty County Democratic Party you want not get the endorsement,
and so on the bench. Now we have restorative justice
thirty and forty year old, largely females who came out
of the movement of jails or a waste of time,
that jails hurt inmates more than they assist, and that
we believe in restorative justice and therefore we won't send
(12:33):
people to jail. And the Hamony Counties you know, right now,
Senator Hamlin County is teetering to becoming Chicago storative justice.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I mean, that's a nice thing to say. You know,
where you restore justice, you get people off the streets,
you give justice to the victims. Okay, first of all,
and you know what we do in our prisons. We
give people a chance to rehabilitate themselves. It's a department
of rehabilitations corrections. And once you're in prison, you can
go still earn credentials to get a job. You can
(13:02):
do all these things while you're in prison, but you're
off the streets keeping people safe when that's happening. That's
how you restore somebody. You say, there's a consequence if
you don't behave We'll give you a chance when you
get out of here to go to work, because we're
going to help you get a job skill. But you're
not going to be committing crimes on our street and
making victor and we're going to protect the victims. We're
(13:23):
going to protect the standard of what it means. That's
that's the way you do restorative justice.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Ultimately, Senator, we have the government we deserve and we
don't deserve. If you keep voting for the same individuals
anticipating a different result, nothing's going to change. About a
minute remaining, can you give us an update on the
government shutdown which Chuck Schumer demands to occur. It's happening,
Republicans say a clean cr Democrats won one point five
trillion dollars, are more spending. Give us an update on
(13:51):
the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The Schumer shutdown continues. We're going to vote again today.
This will be the ninth time that I will have
voted to keep the government open, clean cr, keep funding
at the current levels. But Chuck Schumer, he really exposed
himself last week literally in the sense that he said, well,
every day that the government shut down goes on, it's
(14:13):
better for us, meaning Democrats. Well, you know what, that
really exposes his motivation because it's really about politics to him.
It's not the American people. It's not about whether our
military get paid. It's not whether our air traffic controllers
get paid. It's not whether our first responders get paid.
It's whether Chuck Schumer can score political points and keep
his job because he's scared of AOC running against him
(14:36):
in a primary in New York. And so we're being
run by the radical left here in this nation right now.
Because it requires sixty votes in the US Senate to
get the government back open. We've had three Democrats vote
with us. We just need five more. But we will
not relent. We're not going to give in to him
wanting to fund health care for illegal immigrants. We're not
going to give in to his massive spending proposals. We're
(14:59):
gonna going to do this the right way. We're going
to remain strong.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
As long as it takes. But I hope things change
in Cincinnati. We have an election in two and a
half weeks, and if you don't change direction, you'll get
more of the same, Senator John, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Go ahead, Bill, just just quickly. If you don't protect
people and their property, they're gonna leave. They're gonna leave, Cincinnati,
businesses will leave, people won't comfort to use your restaurants.
And you've got to restore public order and protect the
people of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You know, Senator after a peer of all gives mouth
service to that. He always talks. My job one two
and three is public safety, and if that's his job
one two and three, he needs to be unemployed. So
Senator John used to get my best everyone in Washington,
and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, John, Senator,
thanks you, Bill, I thank you. All right, let's continue
(15:50):
with more. It's up to you. The truth will set
you free. Voting for the same anticipating different result is
the definition of stupidity. Bill Cunningham Radio seven hundred WLW
Billy Cunningham, the Great America. We've heard from judges now
in the Hamlin County and also later on we have
the scheduled any way, Britney Ruby to come on. I
talked to her this morning at length. Scheduled to come
on about two o'clock today. We also have Supreme Court
Justice show deaters coming on. Have everyone coming on, including
the junior senator from the great state of Ohio, Senator
(00:27):
John Houston, who's busy in Washington. Not too busy with
the government shutdown. A senator, I saw you a week
ago presiding in the Senate, and I felt particularly proud
you were trying to get the government shut down to conclude,
but the Democrats won't do that. Before we talk about
the government shutdown, what is your perception of what's happening
now in the city of Cincinnati and what role, if any,
(00:49):
can the state and or the Feds play in bringing
peace to River City.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, Bill, it's great to be with you. It's an
unfortunate thing because I say this about cities. Your number
one job when you're the mayor, the chief of police
the city council is protect people and their property. If
you fail to do that, you fail to do that
fundamental thing, then people will not visit your city, people
(01:16):
will not invest there, people will leave, people businesses will
move out of your downtown, your area. And it's harming,
and it harms the people of your city the most
because not only does it make them unsafe, but it
also makes it weakened and economically weakens your your city.
And the only ex I mean, you tell me what
(01:37):
the explanation is to this, but why wouldn't you have
a police there all the time, over time, showing the
presence and basically saying, no, a heart of our central
business district, entertainment district, it will be safe. We invite
the world to come to Cincinnati because it's the safest city. Instead,
it's becoming a very dangerous city center.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The call that was an effect. PNG is grossly expanding
its footprint in Mason. They're getting prepared to downsize their facilities.
You know Macy's has moved out. It is not going
to become try to become apartment buildings. Most of the
large businesses in Cincinnati have their own police department because
they can't trust the city. I am told the chief
of police THIJI is about to become the fall guy.
(02:22):
She's about to get a copy of the home game.
Because the mayor's policies don't work. The mayor did a
big news conference. I'm not sure you were there, but
the governor was there, the FBI was there, the Department
of Treasury was there, the US Marshall was there, County
prosecutors there, County sheriff was there, accepting state help that
never arrived because the mayor and share along the city manager,
(02:43):
it never triggered it by requesting it. And when you
look at the memorandum of understanding, it involved two shifts
a month having the state involved. And now after yesterday's
news conference, it appears the city they finally have said
to the county and to the state, we need help
get it done. We can't fix the roads. We have
potholes everywhere, Bridges are falling down, and the police force
(03:07):
does not listen greatly to the chief of police, order,
the mayor, order the city manager. That's another complete different issue.
We have car break ins. We have more than twenty
thousand shots every fired every year rattling around Cincinnati. We're
gonna have about four hundred people shot. We're gonna have
about one hundred people murdered. We're gonna have about two
thousand cars stolen and about fifteen thousand car break ins.
(03:30):
And you know, John, excuse me, Senator, Cincinnati is like
seven miles by eight miles. It's small. The public school
system has forty six percent of the children are chronically absent,
and if you're a black boy, you're chronically absent seventy
one percent of the time. On top of all this,
we have two thousand kids in foster care. We have
(03:50):
a complete meltdown of the institutions, and Corporate America is
voting with their moving truck to get out of downtown Cincinnati.
What role, if any, could then national Guard play. I
know that was a topic and the mayor debate, and
you're kind of in charge of that in a sense.
What role does a National Guard play to bring order
to our city?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, Bill, look, you needn't look very far away. Cleveland, Ohio.
The governor just sent a special violent crime reduction unit
to Cleveland with the Highway Patrol and in one weekend
they captured five eight eight felony arrests, six illegal firearms recovered, okay,
(04:32):
and they captured a guy who was part of a
mass shooting last year. Okay, and like literally this was
in one weekend when when the city of Cleveland finally
relented and said, hey, we're going to accept help from
the Highway Patrol. The governor sent him in and they
captured all of these people who've been terrorized in the community.
(04:53):
You can do the same thing in Cincinnati. It's just
that you need to have a mayor and a chief
of police who are to let it happen. That you
can do this with law enforcement. The challenge for the
National Guard is that they don't have they don't have
the ability to arrest people. They can protect, they can
create a presence, but they don't have they don't have
law enforcement powers. That's why sending in the highway Patrol
(05:16):
is a better way to do it, because they can
arrest people, they can coordinate with law enforcement, and they
can clean up the streets. But you've got to have
local leaders who will.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Do this didn't happen. We had this big news conference
a month ago, it didn't happen. Had another one yesterday
and what's our chief of police looked in the camera
and told her officers in uniform what to do. She
didn't tell them, she told the news media, and she says,
if you're committing crime in Cincinnati, we will confront you.
(05:46):
We will confront you. And I'm thinking confront me. I
want someone to be arrested. We have found I.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Will arrest you and prosecute you to the fullest extent
of the law and get you off of our streets
the public to protect businesses and do the thing that
we need to keep people safe, that's what she needs
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
No, we're gonna confront you. And I have, you know,
the county corner last me some markets.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Maybe maybe they could maybe they could have admonished them.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
To You're gonna get You're gonna get time out in
the corner. I mean, come on, she says, we will
confront you. And if I'm a gangbanger with guns and
I'm selling drugs, breaking into cars and god knows, burglarizing,
I have the chief of police that looks like she
belongs on a can of Dutch Boy paint, who's telling me,
I'm gonna confront you. It's like confront We have open
(06:34):
air drug use, marijuana frequently being smoked, and I hope
the President doesn't do much with that, by the way,
because it's gone into the children. We have open air
drug markets, we have homeless encampments, we have car break ins,
we have people getting shot on Fountain Square, and the
chief police says, you will be confronted.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
What you got me?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Now? I'm good, Now, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I'm good. Bill. I talked to some Cincinnati officers recently
and I asked this question. I said, I said, look
what happens when you arrest people, because it's more than
just it's more than just the law enforcement. And then
you send them to court. Are they putting them away?
Are they Are they taking the criminals off the street
(07:16):
and putting them in jail? And one officer told me
a story that there's a gas station a corner where
there's constantly fights, there's constantly drug deals going on. They arrest,
they arrest them, they take them to jail, and when
less than twenty four hours, they're back on the streets.
So the criminals know that you develop a culture in
your city based on whether you're tough on crime or
(07:38):
you're weak on crime. And once the criminals know that
there are no consequences for committing crimes, guess what they
commit the crimes And that's the culture that's being developed
that needs to be addressed.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
The Shell station on Central Parkway is the site of
massive drug sales captured on video on a daily basis,
and there are no arrests. When I talked to Ken
Kober of the FOP, they tell me we have the
indirect message not to arrest people unless it's required, because
Scottie Johnson and others on city council don't want to
(08:13):
go hands on with someone. If you go hands on,
you might have an incident, you might have a warrant,
you might find out he's got a gun. We don't
pull people over for speeding reckless operation because we have
speed bumps. The speed bumps take the place more queue
the speed bumps because the city council doesn't want police
to pull somebody over, run their warrants. Okay, you don't
(08:35):
have a license, don't have insurance, their car's not registered,
got guns there. They don't want that to happen. So
we have speed bumps instead of cops. And on that point,
about an hour ago, ahead on Judge Josh Berkowitz, who's
the presiding judge in Hamley County Municipal Court, he put
the cheese on the cracker. He said half the judges
in my court believe in restorative justice. So I say
(08:55):
to him, Okay, I think I know what is restorative justice.
If you're a judge, that the fact is, it needs
to restore justice to the criminal. A many times the
so called black community, the great majority of black kids
have nothing to do with crime. But the face in
Cincinnati is a black male face. And so if you
come out of the restorative justice movement, you believe in
(09:16):
no cash bonds, and you believe that putting a kid
in jail for that child is worse than the victim
penalty inflicted upon the victim. We have a a juvenile
court judge, Carrie Bloom, who's given talks on this subject
and what she says in juvenile court, I do not
want to put black kids in jail. It's reparations, it's
(09:37):
about slavery, it's about affirmative action, it's about DEEO. I
don't want to put black kids in jail. And she said,
by the way, a white female. But nonetheless she says,
half the judges in Amley County do not sentence anyone
to jail. We have another good judge, a friend of mine,
Alison Hathaway, who released some eighteen and a half year
old on a gun charge. She reduced it, and then
(09:58):
six weeks later he kills a sixteen year old on
OTR on her watch, and now that kid's going to
face life imprisonment. So what do you do, Senator, If
half the judges or more in Hamley County do not
want to sentence anybody to jail and don't want to
lock them up, They want them all along the streets,
what do you say about that one?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
They got to go to them out. That's what you
gotta do with people to do that, Billy, this is
pretty simple. It's not the people. We've got to start
emphathizing with the victims and not the criminals. Okay, the
victims of these crimes are in many cases, people who
live in who live in the city. They're typically not visitors.
(10:38):
There are people who call Cincinnati home, and you're not
protecting the innocent people of Cincinnati from the criminals in Cincinnati.
And it doesn't take much. You start arresting people for
committing crimes and putting them in jail, and that will
send a message to other peoples do not do this.
It will act as a deterrent. But right now. If
(11:00):
you send the message that if you commit a crime
there will be no consequences, that is an incentive. That
is that is basically saying, go ahead and commit crimes
in Cincinnati. I wish it. I wish it. I wish
admonishment and stern warnings were enough in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
But they're not confrontations. We're going to con you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
We're going to come on accountability. And that means that
every once in a while. That means that every once
in a while somebody is unfortunately going to go to
jail and going to go to prison. But that sends
the message that that behavior will not be tolerant. Tolerated,
it becomes a community standard in which people follow it.
Community standards are set by your leadership, your leadership and
(11:40):
the law enforcement and your judges. And if they don't
set a community standard that crime will not be tolerated,
then they will set a community standard by default that
crime will be tolerated.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Before we talk about the government shutdown, two different judges
have told me that after a peer of all the
mayor at these endorsement opportunities for their democratic liberal judges
would always ask the question, do you believe in restorative justice.
Do you believe in no cash bonds? And do you
believe in treatment and lieu of incarceration? Unless the judges answer,
(12:12):
I believe in all those things. Af ted pirival and
the Hamilty County Democratic Party you want not get the endorsement,
and so on the bench. Now we have restorative justice
thirty and forty year old, largely females who came out
of the movement of jails or a waste of time,
that jails hurt inmates more than they assist, and that
we believe in restorative justice and therefore we won't send
(12:33):
people to jail. And the Hamony Counties you know, right now,
Senator Hamlin County is teetering to becoming Chicago storative justice.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I mean, that's a nice thing to say. You know,
where you restore justice, you get people off the streets,
you give justice to the victims. Okay, first of all,
and you know what we do in our prisons. We
give people a chance to rehabilitate themselves. It's a department
of rehabilitations corrections. And once you're in prison, you can
go still earn credentials to get a job. You can
(13:02):
do all these things while you're in prison, but you're
off the streets keeping people safe when that's happening. That's
how you restore somebody. You say, there's a consequence if
you don't behave We'll give you a chance when you
get out of here to go to work, because we're
going to help you get a job skill. But you're
not going to be committing crimes on our street and
making victor and we're going to protect the victims. We're
(13:23):
going to protect the standard of what it means. That's
that's the way you do restorative justice.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Ultimately, Senator, we have the government we deserve and we
don't deserve. If you keep voting for the same individuals
anticipating a different result, nothing's going to change. About a
minute remaining, can you give us an update on the
government shutdown which Chuck Schumer demands to occur. It's happening,
Republicans say a clean cr Democrats won one point five
trillion dollars, are more spending. Give us an update on
(13:51):
the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The Schumer shutdown continues. We're going to vote again today.
This will be the ninth time that I will have
voted to keep the government open, clean cr, keep funding
at the current levels. But Chuck Schumer, he really exposed
himself last week literally in the sense that he said, well,
every day that the government shut down goes on, it's
(14:13):
better for us, meaning Democrats. Well, you know what, that
really exposes his motivation because it's really about politics to him.
It's not the American people. It's not about whether our
military get paid. It's not whether our air traffic controllers
get paid. It's not whether our first responders get paid.
It's whether Chuck Schumer can score political points and keep
his job because he's scared of AOC running against him
(14:36):
in a primary in New York. And so we're being
run by the radical left here in this nation right now.
Because it requires sixty votes in the US Senate to
get the government back open. We've had three Democrats vote
with us. We just need five more. But we will
not relent. We're not going to give in to him
wanting to fund health care for illegal immigrants. We're not
going to give in to his massive spending proposals. We're
(14:59):
gonna going to do this the right way. We're going
to remain strong.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
As long as it takes. But I hope things change
in Cincinnati. We have an election in two and a
half weeks, and if you don't change direction, you'll get
more of the same, Senator John, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Go ahead, Bill, just just quickly. If you don't protect
people and their property, they're gonna leave. They're gonna leave, Cincinnati,
businesses will leave, people won't comfort to use your restaurants.
And you've got to restore public order and protect the
people of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You know, Senator after a peer of all gives mouth
service to that. He always talks. My job one two
and three is public safety, and if that's his job
one two and three, he needs to be unemployed. So
Senator John used to get my best everyone in Washington,
and thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, John, Senator,
thanks you, Bill, I thank you. All right, let's continue
(15:50):
with more. It's up to you. The truth will set
you free. Voting for the same anticipating different result is
the definition of stupidity. Bill Cunningham Radio seven hundred WLW
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