10-16-25 Ken Broo in for Willie

Ken Broo fills in for the Great American discussing the future for Cincinnati Police Chief Teresea Theetge, if peace can last in the Middle East, and revisiting the JFK assassination.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
All right, twelve oh seven, welcome on in. It's the
average American in for the great American on this Thursday.
Downtown Cincinnati will be a buzz tonight. Thus stubbers are
in town. Oh, I can only imagine, and I will
only imagine because I am leaving my couch.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
There's no way.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I mean, let's put it this way. Whenever this game happens.
As much as I like to be at games, if
it's a night game against Pittsburgh, Homie ain't leaving home.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
That's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
But nevertheless, it's the Steelers tonight in town to take
on the Bengals, what's left of the Bengals for a
Thursday night game.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
And it will be interesting.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
To see exactly how the rest of downtown Cincinnati behaves
because it has been, as you know, and as we've
been talking about on this radio station, it seems like
since the middle of this summer, it is a dicey
proposition every time the sun goes down on Cincinnati. So
we'll see what tonight brings. I'm sure there will be,
as always with any Bengals game night or noon, a

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very strong police presence, But who exactly will be the
chief of Cincinnati's police force when the sun goes down tonight.
According to the Inquirer, the city is negotiating with the
current police chief, Theresa Thiji, to resign. She has been
called back from Denver, from where all these police chiefs
were meeting at a conference, and called back quickly by

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the city manager, Cheryl Long. So it doesn't sound like
she's long for the police world here in Cincinnati. But
somebody else who knows and knows that this might not
be the best thing for the City of Cincinnati to
do is standing by to join us right now. He,
of course, is Cincinnati Fraternal Order of Police president Ken Kobert. Ken,
how are you on this glorious day.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm doing great. How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
I'm well. They're going to can Thiji, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I suspect it's coming. It's just a matter of time.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
From what I've seen in the comments you've made, she's
nothing more than a scapegoat here, Is that right?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Without a doubt.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
I mean, this is the problem, and I've told other
media outlets the same thing is getting rid of her
is not fixing the problem.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's just not You have.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
A mayor that is telling her what to do, and
she does it perfect excuse me, perfect example, the chief
has asked the mayor for the last year to go
meet with CPS figure out what we're going to do
with these kids that are coming down.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Here to these bus stops, and he just refuses to
do it.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
She's gone to the mayor and say, listen, you've got
to do something with these judges. Put pressure on these
judges to give high bonds, put pressure on these judges
to lock these violent people up and keep them locked
up because the police are doing what they're supposed to
be doing. And the bottom line is the marriage hasn't
done it. So to use her as a scapegoat when
she's done anything that the mayor has asked her to do,
it's not going to fix the problem.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
We're going to continue in.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
This until we have either a chief that works independently
of elected officials, or we have a mayor that's going
to fully support protecting the city.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's the bottom line.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Well, we've got a mayor's election, as you well know,
coming up here in November, and it would seem to
me that the current mayor have to have Purivo found
religion about all of this along about July when he
came back from his family vacation in Vancouver. And obviously,
now well, I mean, I mean, let's let's be honest here,
Purivial is going to get reelected. It may not be

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what the amount of vote that he got the first time.
He's going to be the mayor here again, unless something
cataclysmic happens. It's the city of Cincinnati and the entire
county of Hamilton County have turned blue. But you've you've
you've hit the problem on the head can and that's judges.
We have a largely Democrat bench in the city of Cincinnati.
You guys, the police, you know exactly who these these

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criminals and these thugs are, and so they bring you,
You bring them in. Maybe they stay in jail for
a while, maybe they get bailed out, maybe bond is
set at an increase the low level.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
We've seen that this summer as well. And then they go.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Through the prosecutorial process and they're prosecuted, and they wind
up in front of a judge, and the judge wants
to be crusader rabbit and turn a criminal back out
on the street because we want to rehabilitate the criminal.
And then tomorrow, it's rense and repeat. There's the problem,
is it not?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
No, without a doubt, I was told yesterday and this
is an absolute staggering fact. There are four people that
are under indictment for murder right now that are walking
around our communities. They're out on EMU, they and they're out.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, that's just given the current makeup of the bench
in Hamlin County. It does not surprise me because there
is a there is a philosophical belief that everybody should
be rehabilitated. No, their ass should be thrown in jail.
Just like these two nutballs that went through Fountain Square
a couple of nights ago, shooting it up and shooting

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at innocent people in a restaurant.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
There ought to be in jail.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I know you're still looking for a couple of them,
or one of them at least, but you got I mean,
if the videos there, the gun is there, the gun
is tied to the guy, the guy needs to be
put in jail. But we both know what's going to happen,
don't we.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
Well, two of the people involved in that. One was
out on bond for an aggravated robbery. Another person involved
was just recently placed on community control or probation, if
you will, for a pistol whipping offense that occurred.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Earlier this year.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
So it's no surprise that these things are happening. It's
no surprise that it's going to continue to happen until
we decide and these judges decide that they're going to
lock up these people that are continuing to commit violent crime.
And part of that is we have an election. Know
who the candidates are, know who the candidates that support

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law and order. Get those judges in office, and maybe
we'll see a change.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, I know a little bit about this, not a lot,
but certainly I know a little bit about this. The
recidivism rate is extremely high, and one would guess that
there are people right now that you and your fellow
officers see on a daily basis, and you know, it's
just a matter of time before they do something again. Everybody,
not all of these people that can make crimes, but

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a large number, you know, are just going to be
right back at it the minute they get out of
jail or the minute they're turned loose into the community.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know these people are, don't.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
You, Absolutely, And that's just it.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
I mean You've got a community of three hundred thousand
people and you might have five hundred to one thousand.
I mean, think about that. Five hundred to one thousand
of people are driving all of the crime in this city,
and the number might actually be lower.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
But when you look at that.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
From the perspective, there's three hundred thousand people in this city.
That's a low number. So why are we not finding
those people and keeping them locked up?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Because they're finding them. The comps are doing a fantastic job.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
You go back to Fountain Square that they had two
shootings in two weeks and they've made these arrests, They've
recovered the guns.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's not the police that aren't doing their job. The
judges have got to step up.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Is theig popular inside the rank and file? I know
there's this lawsuit involving officer Tony Nash twenty twenty four lawsuit.
The judge throughout half of the half of the charges
I guess it was late August, but four of them
were allowed to go forward. You had what, you know,
the terrible thing that happened in over the Rhine with

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the shooting of Heninger. I'm I'm just wondering, is she
popular with her with her rank and file.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, to be honest, it depends on how to ask.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I mean, there are certainly people in this department that
don't agree with things she's done, and there's people that have.
But there is one thing that every officer that I've
talked to in the last twenty four hours agrees with
is she's getting railroaded, even their officers that don't necessarily
care for her, that have reached out to me and said, listen,
you know, I'm not the biggest fan of hers, but

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this is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
She's getting railroaded.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
She's nothing but a political pond, and that's one thing
everybody agrees on.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Well, it looks like she's I mean, look, if they
hauled her back from a conference in Denver overnight and
they're trying to negotiate her way out, you know, to
avoid litigation, she's gone.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It's just a matter when.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
This is an open ended question, and I know that
the answer to it is someone somewhere, But who would
want to walk into this situation right now and become
the chief of police in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Without a doubt?

Speaker 6 (08:33):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
And the travesty of all this is the men and
women that still go out every day and put this
uniform on amidst all this chaos that's going on at
City Hall and a chaos that's going on with the command.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Staff dealing with the chief.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
They still go out every day, they put their uniform on,
and they're dealing with this. You know, those are the
people that should be giving all of the credit in
the world that amidst all of this nonsense, they're still
going out and protecting this city.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
But to your point, who would want to do it?

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Who would want to step in I deal with this,
with this mess that's going on right now?

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Well that's it.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It looks like that we all know city Council, regardless
of the makeup of it, has been dysfunctional as long
as I've been in town, and I've been in town
on and all for the last forty five years. I mean,
there was a time when there was some serenity when
Charlie Lucan was mayor. There seemed to be a process
where things got done. I think he was a guy
that got things done. Now it just seems like, you know,

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every time you turn your head around, there's somebody making
a knitwit statement where the mayor goes missing or things
like that. So if you're the mayor, for example, of
Fort Wayne, Indiana, I'm sorry, the police chief in Fort Wayne, Indiana,
or perhaps in Frisco, Texas, or wherever they may look next,
and you're looking at Cincinnati, you're saying to yourself, do
I really want that headache? I may wait for the
next train to come and take me someplace else where.

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At least I got a fighting chance. But you and
I both know there are probably people inside the rank
and file. Somebody that's sitting there, there's politically motivated inside
the force right now would probably want to say, yeah,
take a shot at this.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I mean there will be somebody right.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah, and there. Believe me, there are more than qualified people.
We have several people in this department that are capable
of running a police department. It all comes down to
as a matter of are they going to be allowed?
Are they going to be allowed to take this department
and run it the way they see fit? A Are
we going to continue with what we have right now,
which is city hall dictating what the chief's going to do?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
All right, that's okay, nothing's going to change.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, So what is this thing I read on
Fountain Square.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
We're going to beep up.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
We're going to beep up security between two o'clock and
the afternoon, at ten o'clock at night. I mean, I
read that the other day, and the first thing that
struck me was, well, the criminals can set a wake
up call for ten to thirty at night and they're
open for business. What's the wisdom behind just a certain
finite number of hours every day.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Optics? Quite honestly, why I mean, why you would announce that?

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I don't know, because to your point, okay, well they're
going to be there from two to ten, all right.
If I'm gonna go cause a ruckus, it's either going
to be at one o'clock or eleven o'clock.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Why you would announce it?

Speaker 5 (11:05):
I have no idea other than the fact that you
want to show that you're doing something, that we're gonna
make this safe and we're doing something.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Here's what we're doing instead of just doing it.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I just I mean, I mean, to me, it
was just it was a foolish thing to do.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
All right.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
So the FOP.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Get no confidence vote in pure ball back a couple
of months ago in August. You know what we have
in town tonight, and we will have continuing through the
course of the fall in the winter, many events in
downtown Cincinnati. They put a skating rink up on Fountain Square.
We have the Bengals playing occasionally in primetime football. Well,
what do you tell of the average person that's going

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to be driving in, perhaps not from Hamilton County, but
from Warren County, Butler County, wherever to watch this game tonight,
or anything else that might transpire on a nightly basis,
daily basis. Helly, we got shootings in broad daylight. What
would you tell them about the safety and the security
of downtown Cincinnati right now?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
You better be aware of your surroundings. You better stay
in large groups. That that is going to minimize your
risk of becoming a victim. But quite honestly, I would
park as close to the stadium I can go to
the game and then when it's over, get out of dodge.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, if you park, if you pack around Fountain Square
like tonight's game, it sounds like you better get out
of there at halftime. I mean if it runs out
at ten o'clock at night. Man, I ain't walking up
the Fountain Square at ten o'clock at night, would you.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
No, But you have to understand, especially a game you know,
like this obviously Thursday night football, there are going to
be probably between one hundred, one hundred and fifty cops
somewhere around there that are gonna be working, that are
going to make absolutely every effort to make sure that
the people that come here are going to be here
in a safe environment. But with that being said, cops
can't be everywhere. So like I said, it's it's it's

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gonna hopefully it's going to be a great night in
ste Cincinnati, but be aware of your surroundings. And they said,
as soon as the game's over, I would be certainly
heading back to where I came from.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Ken Cole, I should know this, and I don't. How
long have you been on the force.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I'm the police department for twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Who's the best chief you had?

Speaker 5 (13:19):
You know, there's two debates for this.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I will tell you personally, Chief Striker hired me twice.

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Once as a police get at it and once as
a police officer, so I certainly have a lot of
respect for him. And then we had James Craig, who,
I'll tell you what you ask anybody that's been around
when James Craig was here. What he brought to Cincinnati
in the short time that he was here was nothing
short of phenomenal. And it's ironic because he was the

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chief that was the first one that was hired outside
of our department, and was the first one hired under
Issue five, which meant that they could essentially try to
make a fire you for pretty much whatever reason, and
the city Hall couldn tro what you did. He was
here for two years and not a day more because
he refused to cave into city Hall and they got
rid of him for it.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I knew Striker. I knew Craig.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Striker couldn't work in the environment that exists in this
town right now as a police chief. And Craig wouldn't
even look at it. Twice. I know he got into
politics when he went up to Michigan, and that's the
step he wants to take. Great But in this current environment,
neither one of those two guys would work here. I
guarantee you who want to work here.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
Right, I mean, you look and we hit you, Elliot Isaac.
You know, with the environment that he had work in,
he did a great job. Chief Fiji's done a great
job with the environment in which he has to work in.
But these, you know, the days of Chief Striker being
able to run the department the way that he saw fit.
Those ended when he retired and we won't see that again.
And that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
So you say replacing the chief is not the answer.
There are three options reappeal Issue five, so the chief
isn't under the thumb of an elected official.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I'm reading your words back to you.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Convinced the Mary to allow the chief to do his
or her job independently or put a new mayor in Well,
I you know, as much as I think the Republican
side of this would love to see Corey Bowman have
a chance, I think you're now to your top two there,
And of those top two, what do you think the
most likely thing to happen is? I think it's neither
as what you're don't to say. But what do you
think the most likely chance is?

Speaker 5 (15:18):
Yeah, I think the more likely thing would be coming
up with a ballot initiative and get to convince the
voters that we have got to allow the police chief
to work.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
There are ways that this.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Charter amendment could be could be at least, if not repealed,
that can be amended, that affords the chief some protections to.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Run the department that they see fit. Yeah, and you know,
ultimately what has to happen, you know, you.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Know, Ken, the answer to all of our questions in
life is money. And all it's going to take is
two or three high profile businesses to move out of
downtown Cincinnati unless they can corral this stuff. And that's
going to be what is the impetus to change all
of this stuff. Money buys attention, and I think invariably,
unless this thing is corralled, you're going to get that.

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You'll get two or three high profile businesses move out,
and then all of a sudden people will start getting
religion on this stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
That's the way it works, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
That's a sad part is because I don't want to
see any business leaf. I want to see this place thrive.
But you know something has to change.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, Ken Kobert, we always appreciate you having you on.
We'll see who you're cheap is by sundown tonight. My
guess is it won't be Teresa Thiji. It may not
be anyone for a while. We'll see. But for your
time today, we certainly appreciate it. You stay well, okay, yep,
you as well.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
You bet, it is a mess. And let me just
think of that. If you're Thiji, you go to Denver,
You're with all of your peers out there, and all
of a sudden you're yanked back into town. And now,
if you're going to do that to somebody, why don't
you just do that before they leave? So you've got

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embarrassment on top of what sounds like problems with the
rank and file of the cops.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
But we have Monday Night Football Tonight.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Twelve twenty four News Radio seven hundred w WELW oh
thirty seven News Radio seven hundred WLW, The Average American
in for the Great American on this Thursday on the
show today coming up one oh six. This peace plan
that the President negotiated with all these other countries, how

(17:26):
long do you think it's going to take before Hamas
turns that thing upside down? They've already kind of done that.
But to my knowledge, Hamas is still armed, So I
ain't going to disarm Hamas well. Have somebody who is
well noted, well spoken, and someone who has studied Middle
East tensions and settlements for decades joined us. At one

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o six two o six, Charlie Kirk's widow got the
Medal of Freedom that President Trump handed out yesterday or
it was yesterday two days for her husband, the late
Charlie Kirk. And there is someone who believes that there
are parallels between the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the

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assassination of former President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. And he has
a theory as to why each one of those happened
and how they're intertwined.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
We'll get to that at two oh six. All kinds
of stuff on the show.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Today, and yes, there is Monday Night football tonight. This
is a battle of old guys.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I love old.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Guys when they engage in battle gladiators. I think the
combined age of Joe Flacco and Aaron Rodgers or something
like eighty one eighty two years old. Flacco was talking
about that this week with the media about just how
this is one for the aged.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Yeah, it's one thing you guys can't talk about this
week in terms of me being older at least, but
it's pretty neat. I mean, Aaron's been in the league
a few years longer than me, But we started playing
in two thousand and eight, so some been doing it
for a long time.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's pretty cool now.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Me Meanwhile, you got Rogers who is with Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
They're doing pretty well. God admit, they're doing pretty well.
And the old guy thing, you know, the icy hot
Bowl thing, it's not lost on him. He was in
Pittsburgh crowing about that.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I think it's great, great for all the old guys.
You know.

Speaker 9 (19:24):
I know that when I watch other sports. Maybe it's
because I'm the older guy, but I tend.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
To to pull.

Speaker 9 (19:30):
For the older guys to to win, to win championships.
I'm I'm I've been friends with Steph for a long time.
Steph is one of the older guys in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Now there's any time.

Speaker 9 (19:39):
To Warriors to play.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
I'm always pulling for.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
For Steph to ball out for them, for them to win.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
But uh, it's great.

Speaker 9 (19:45):
I mean, I've known Joe for a long time. Uh,
he's been great coming to my charity event. Uh, he's
been a great ambassador for the league. He's had a
great career, and it's fun that we're both still playing.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, he pulls for the old I pull for the
old guys. I root for Cunningham. Somebody that's not excited
about any of this is Mike Tomlin. I don't know
if you heard his comments about the Browns trading Flaco
here to the Bengals. He made this statement earlier this week.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.

Speaker 10 (20:17):
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or
us Browns GM, because it doesn't make sense to me
to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to
make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's
hurting in that area.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
But that's just my personal feeling.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
He was salivating over the opportunity to defend against Jake Browning.
Now he's got to deal with Flacco, who may or
may not have hit his stride in the second half
of that game on Sunday. We'll see better evidence coming tonight.
Standing by to join us right now is somebody that
knows all of this stuff inside out.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
He is the president and.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
CEO of Resilience Media.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
What is that, I don't know. I think he's kind
of like a facilitator.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
But anyway, primary coverage and primary facilitation efforts are in
the world of sports. We've had Neil Coolong on before
when he was with USA Today and then with SI
dot Com and now here he is president and CEO
of his own company. Who would want that? Neil Coolong,
how are you on this glorious day.

Speaker 11 (21:19):
I'm doing very well, still in my keyxote like approach
to finding whatever else is out there. But it's it's
it's a crazy new world, but it's exciting and there's
always NFL to discuss and go over.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
So I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, sir, okay, So we have.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
As we were joking back and forth on Twitter the
other day, it's this is not a game for the ages.
This is a game for the aged. This is the
This is the Icy Hot Bowl. According to Aaron Rodgers
and to Joe Flacco, who would have thought at the
end of last season it would be Rogers against Flacco's
Steelers against Bengals, But that's why they played the games. Neil,

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who is the more successful aging veteran at this point?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
In your opinion?

Speaker 11 (22:06):
I think if we were to break it down like that,
Rogers probably has a step on Flaco. But the reason
the Bengals brought Flacco in is because the more able
bodied somewhat experienced quarterback that they had wasn't working out.
And what they really want is to put it in

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this context, the studio musician. You know, Flacco is going
to come in, he's going to play the music, and
he's going to leave.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
They have.

Speaker 11 (22:35):
Abnormally powerful weapons within that offense that Jake Browning was
not utilizing fully and they needed somebody that could just
would simply be able to diagnose what a defense is
doing and get the playmakers the ball in an effort
to salvage whatever they can in an adverse situation. And
I think Flacco is a reasonable option for that, and

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he was probably the most affordable option all things considered.
You know that there are others out there that probably
have more physical skill, but experience in that kind of
situation counts a ton. And this is one why a
guy like Joe Flacco and even Aaron Rodgers are still
in the NFL, and two why teams largely consider their

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backup quarterback to be a top twenty roster spot. When
that starter goes down, there's a lot you can't replace,
and because of that, you're going to have to You know,
the coaches will never say that that you're going to
have to compensate in other ways. The one thing you
absolutely cannot have is a guy that's afraid or inexperience

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in performing under the lights. And I think that's the
situation that we have tonight. You've got two veteran quarterbacks
that are not the physical specimen they used to be.
They're both Super Bowl champion quarterbacks, they both have two
of the best postseason performances in NFL history.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
In my opinion, they're a long way from that.

Speaker 11 (24:00):
But what they can do is identify a defense and
conduct an offense within a structure that will utilize the
weapons they have available.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Why is Mike Tomlin so bent out of shape that
the Browns made this trade with the Bengals to get Flaco?
Why does he care? I mean, I know we'd rather
face Browning than Flaco, But over and above that, why
would Mike Tomlin care?

Speaker 6 (24:23):
I you know, it's it's funny. That's really kind of
the question of the week.

Speaker 11 (24:27):
On the inside, because go back seventeen years, very rarely
do you see Tomlin kind of, you know, get bristled
up a little bit over something. He does not comment
negatively on opponents. Ever, there was a joke we used
to have in the room, you can play Bengo based

(24:48):
on the opponent, and we tried to assign who the
cliche was going to be about, like combat catch guy
was this guy, or you know he covers every blade
of grass will be this guy. For him to say
what he did, it was awfully pointed, and I don't
think it's so much pointed at the Bengals. I think

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what if I were to guess, and this is pure
speculation on my part, I don't know anything about it.
I think what he's saying is the Bengals are a
dangerous team even if Joe Burrow is not playing. Obviously
they're going to take a step back, but you can
find ways to beat teams with the weapons that they

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have on offense if you get a quarterback that can
be averaged.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Browning was not average in that sense.

Speaker 11 (25:41):
The Browns deciding to send a veteran quarterback inside the
division who's a noticeable step up based on the two
games that we saw poor Jake Browning. I don't know
what happened to him to help them improve that keeps
them alive within the division. And I think that's kind
of what he is saying, Like Why would you do

(26:02):
that If you're Andrew Barry, You're not getting anything out
of that. You're still paying most of Flacco's salary, which
isn't all that much anyway. You swapped picks, so it's
the difference of like seventeen picks unless you had an
extreme problem with Joe Flacco. How are you benefiting from
this deal at all? And conversely, the Bengals made the

(26:22):
deal of the year. I know we're not going to
look at it that way as it being that intense of.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
A transaction that could save their season.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
How is this playing out tonight? Because I looked at
the Steelers, nothing really jumps out at me. Statistically for them,
they don't run the ball particularly well on average. Although
Warren has had his moments Rogers, his days of throwing
close to four hundred and three touchdown passes have pretty
much gone by. The offensive line seems to have done okay.

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He's not getting sacked a lot. Defensively, they look like
they're healthy and they're pretty darn good. But I'm just wondering,
if you look at this game tonight, I'm wondering if
we're going to eclipse thirty points in this game and
that's combined. How do you see this thing playing out?

Speaker 11 (27:12):
We've said that a lot about these games. You never
know when it comes to Thursday night games within the division.
You know, we spent the last week talking about Jackson
Dart basically being the reincarnation of Joe Montana. When you're
familiar with your opponent and you have the opportunity on

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a short week to kind of seize momentum in a
game and really, you know, throw a knockout blow at
somebody that can go either way. I don't think Cincinnati
had a fairly significant hurdle to overcome, but they're professionals.
When jobs get you know, challenged, I'm not saying threatened,

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but a bad season is not going to do well
for your coaching staff.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
And I think that's true of anybody.

Speaker 11 (28:01):
If if you're going to show that one player is
the reason you're able to do absolutely anything, they're going
to look for other coaches.

Speaker 6 (28:08):
They're going to improve everybody else. So they're they're they're
going to be fully invested in that. And on top
of that, it's not.

Speaker 11 (28:14):
Like they need to sit down and categorically break down
everything Pittsburgh does. They know Pittsburgh well they know the tendencies,
they have veteran players, They're going to have a good
sense of who they are in that I would agree.
I would probably feel this would be lower scoring just
because it seems like these games, especially in the AFC North,

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they're they're for jabbers more than haymakers. They're not going to,
you know, really kind of push the knockout blow. But
at the same time, if I'm Cincinnati, look I've got
I've got t Higgins, I've got Jamar Chase. I'm going
to put them to work. Let's let's get them down
the field. I'm however many points it is underdog tonight,
I'm going to try to make big plays because, to

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be honest with you, looking at the Steelers film, I
don't see a team that one really wants to try
for those big plays. And two probably because we're going
to be all that successful of them play a play.
I like what DK Metcalf did last week. I don't
know if his body of work to this point is
representative of a player that is going to make big plays,

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all things being equal, I think a lot of the
plays he's made to this point is defenders slipping on turf, miscommunications,
and coverage.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
We've seen that to this point.

Speaker 11 (29:29):
Either way, there are two players who, in my opinion,
are noticeably better than DK Metcalf on the other.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
Side of the ball, I think Cincinnati can.

Speaker 11 (29:36):
Get away with that. Are they going to risk the takeaways?
Are they going to risk deep drops with an old
and immobile quarterback against a pretty aggressive pass rush. That's
where I think this probably goes more into a lower
scoring tilt.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
But you never know on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, you know, you really never do.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
But there are storylines all over this game make it
kind of kind of intriguing. Neil Coolong he is, as
I say, the king looking for a kingdom, but he's
with Resilience Media. And this is a guy that has
worked in a number of different places, including covering the
Steelers as a beat writer working for the USA Today.
And I think all points in between and nose Pittsburgh

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inside out. Sorry, so I got thirty seconds, give me
a final score.

Speaker 11 (30:25):
I'm going to say Pittsburgh twenty six Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Twenty. I think it'll be competitive, Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
So it gets over thirty, it gets over thirty.

Speaker 11 (30:37):
Yeah, I just I'm leaning into that because I feel
like there's going to be the last drive they could
result in a touchdown to kind of break open a.

Speaker 6 (30:45):
Nineteen sixteen, nineteen nineteen type of game.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
They're going to play close for most of it. I
think the game is going to swing.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
In one way or another in the second half.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Okay, So so you like forty six in this game.
I think the number in this game the last time
I looked was somewhere around forty four. I think it's
at forty three and a half right now. So you're
saying it dances with the number, and it's Pittsburgh minus

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five and a half.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
So it's what you take is the over.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
If you're Neil Kolong and you take the Steelers and
give the points, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (31:24):
You say it like that, you make me want to
change my mind.

Speaker 11 (31:27):
I'm gonna got the Steelers the historic They are so
bad on the road on Thursday nights.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
Gosh, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Are you that week that I changed your mind in
thirty seconds on this thing? Are you that week?

Speaker 11 (31:42):
It's I don't trust the Steelers on Thursday night. You know,
I talked to Cleveland radio stations. How many times I
picked Cleveland to win? And they laughed at me. In
these games. Yeah, Steelers don't play well on Thursday night. Now,
this is earlier in the year when you get you know,
the past couple of seasons, they have older teams playing
late in the year on Thursday night, and if they're

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they're dead.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
They've got nothing in those games. But they get killed.

Speaker 11 (32:07):
And it wouldn't surprise me if if this is a
lot more competitive than people think that it will. But
I'm gonna stick with the over. I just think I
think there's gonna be a late touchdown anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Well, it's all right, I mean, it's it's it's radio.
Nobody's gonna come looking for you if you're if you're wrong,
But that's okay. That's why we like having you on.
Neil Coolong. You can follow him on Twitter. It's the
ad sign in his name, Neil with an A N
E A L coulong c O l O ng. All right,
my friends, stay well, you and I will visit probably
close to that next game here in about a month.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Absolutely, I'm already looking forward with you.

Speaker 7 (32:40):
Listen to you. I'm toying with the under in this game.
I just am.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I just can't I can't bring myself to take the over.
Now watch it be like thirty eight thirty four or
something like that. But I just I just got I
have a feeling about the under in this one. We'll
see twelve fifty three already, my goodness, we are plowing
forward very close to the Bengals pregame show at three
o'clock on news Radio seven hundred wl W. All right

(33:13):
one six News Radio seven hundred WLW. Welcome back to
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Wherever you are, however you're consuming this show, whether it's
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
We really do.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
And you know, there are a lot of things buzzing around,
certainly here in the city of Cincinnati. Monday night football, well,
I guess it's Thursday night. Put Thursday night football is
in town. That's going to be a big event. The
safety of the city and your ability to go down
there and see that game and do other things in
around the greater Cincinnati area Hamblon County, but in particularly

(33:56):
the city of Cincinnati, that's of great concern. I know
to a lot of people. A lot of people are suburbians.
They don't go to Hamilton County into the city of
Cincinnati every single day, and so they don't know what
to expect. We've seen the news reports, we've heard the verbiage.
We know the police chief is about to be fired
or will work out some resignation, and people are wondering,

(34:18):
you know, what do I really want to you know,
what can't I find around my town? What can't I
find that I have to find in the city of Cincinnati.
And the answer is pretty much nothing. The Reds, of
course play downtown, the Bengals play downtown, and of course

(34:39):
there might be one or two other things that might
draw you to downtown Cincinnati. But by and large, anything
that's in downtown Cincinnati that you think is great, restaurant, shopping,
whatever it may be, is available where you live, or
at least very close to where you live. And it's
an image problem that the city of Cincinnati has. It
is a growing image problem. And as I I said

(35:00):
when I had Ken Koble on here about an hour ago,
all it's going to take is one or two high
profile businesses to pull out and say, you know what,
we're done we're moving. We're moving to Westchester, or we're
moving to Erlanger, or we're moving someplace other than downtown Cincinnati.
And all of a sudden, you've got major problems financial

(35:22):
and otherwise in downtown Cincinnati. So politics aside, and I
know you can't do that with this particular situation. Unless
they can get a handle on this thing, it will
affect this city financially. And so they've see, i think
reluctantly embraced the state help that the governor has offered.

(35:45):
And so you'll probably see some more state police in
and around downtown Cincinnati. But it's an indictment really of
the ability to recruit new officers and of a message
that is emanating from city Hall that cascades into the courtroom.
Were these judges, these relatively new judges sit that think
it's okay, you know, term loose. No matter what they did,

(36:08):
Term Louise rehabilitate them. The things buzzing around the world too,
and not the least of which is an uneasy piece
in the Middle East. We saw what the president did
earlier this week. We know that the last of the
twenty living hostages held by Hamas in Gaza are now
back in Israel. The hostages were kidnapped, as we know

(36:28):
on October seventh, twenty twenty three. We also know that
there were many of those hostages that simply did not survive.
Where are the bodies? Hamas brought another body back to Israel,
at least through the Red Cross back to Israel, but
they've been playing games with some of the remains standing

(36:49):
by the way. In as somebody who knows Middle East
politics and the way things are in that area of
the world. He is a trained Middle East historian PhD
from King's College in London, and he's written a lot
of books about Arab Israeli conflicts and American forum policy
as such. And it's great to have doctor Asov Romerowski

(37:13):
join us once again here on seven hundred w welw
and doctor, how are you on this glorious Thursday?

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Good?

Speaker 4 (37:19):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I'm well, okay, give me some odds. How do you think?
What do you think the odds are of this piece
holding for let's say thirty days.

Speaker 12 (37:32):
Well, it's already hasn't really fulfilled itself. I mean, I
think we need to contextualize what we're seeing here. You know,
there is no doubt that this was an historic event
in the moment that you can see the reunification of
the families of the hostages who've been in captivity in
the really in the dungeon hollows of Gaza and these
terror tunnels. That being said, you're already seeing that the

(37:55):
second part of the deal, which was supposed to be
the those who uh, those who have perished, the dead
hostages are only coming out in drips and drabs uh.
And to even give your listeners a context of some
of this, four of the bodies that were returned yesterday,
one of them was not even a hostage, was not

(38:18):
even a body of a hostage. And that was something
these kind of psychological games we saw early on in
the war, for example with the Bevas family, which again
they when they got to the forensic institute in Tel Aviv,
they realized that they put in other body parts. So
this is the unfortunate psychological game that Hamas is putting on.

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And let's not forget the fact, at the moment that
Israel moved out of the area that they were in,
Hamas is already executing people in the streets and nobody's
reporting about it.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Absolutely, very few I've seen. I've seen a couple, but
I haven't seen, certainly not the mainstream media. They're they're
not going to read anything like that. But all right,
who didn't think Hamas was going to do this? I
mean they had to. I mean even the people that
were instrumental in putting this deal together, and that would
start with President Trump, and I think you would have

(39:12):
to look at the leaders of Turkey and Qatar and
other places like that. They would have had to have
known that Hamas is. They're just they're just untrustworthy people.
So they they had to know something like this was
going to happen, didn't they.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (39:29):
I mean, look, let's not forget the fact that Turkey
and Cutter were also patrons of Hanas. They're the ones
who also funded UH ten to seven, and of course
let's not we cannot forget. And when we were missed
the mission to miss the Islamic Republic of Iran, it's
in their DNA. I think that there was larger interest,
that is to say, what Cutter and what Turkey went

(39:52):
out of the United States, you know, as far as
Turkey one, uh, you know, a playing deal when it
comes to the F thirty five uh and the discussion
going on there cut our once a new airbase. You know,
there's a lot of things as far as their own
national interests that supersede what they're deal with Hamas.

Speaker 11 (40:12):
Is.

Speaker 12 (40:12):
Their message to Hamas was that basically, this is the
best deal you're going to get after two years, you
might as well take it. And in return, Hamas is
receiving close to two thousand active terrorists from Israeli prisons
who are going to be fortifying the bench. The larger issue,
I think for the Trump administration is more about the

(40:35):
regional objectives, and that is to say, if Indonesia, who's
been making comments already about joining the Abram Records, and
more importantly the Saudis who predicated their involvement on the
ending of the war, which is a big deal for
the US and for Israel that would be a big
win the war with Hamas itself. Again, you're not going

(40:57):
to change their ideology. You're not going to change their DNA.
You're talking about a Jihati barbaric, a elimination of ideology.
That is that they believe in hook line and sinker,
and that's they're committed to them.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
So back in the summer, Trump sends a bunch of
B two bombers over to Iran and blows up some
of their nuclear sites, the damage of which you know
might have been in contention. The administration said, look, we
basically neutralize this group, and that was the chief funder
for Hamas. You do economic deals with Turkey and Qatar,

(41:38):
and that's how you attack that particular problem with regards
to Hamas and how it's being fostered and funded. That
seems to be the art of the deal. No pun
intended here for the president. That's how we attack this thing.
But everybody now has a little bit of stake in
this game, don't they. I mean, if Aron starts wearing
its ugly head again, here come the B two s

(41:59):
and Turkey and Katar don't get what they want economically
for certain if they start fooling around with Hamas again.
So he's trying to cut all of this off at
the head, is he not?

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (42:11):
And I think that to some extent he's been able
to do that. Not to mention to your earlier point,
suffocating from US financially, which is obviously critical, I think
that you know, creating a regional environment, and specifically as
it relates to the understanding that Iran is the greatest
destabilizing force in the region and creating a coalition of

(42:32):
countries the Saudis, the Israeli, the Jordanians, the Egyptians who
are willing to fight him back with the United States,
that is a useful move. Not to mention, you know,
one should not you know, ignore the fact that, uh,
what we saw and you're illustrated was a phenomenal illustration

(42:52):
of the US Israel alliance when they are on the
same page, uh, you know, going back to Trump's speech
at the Israeli Parliament this week with Natanyao together and
so the message to the our world and the Hamas
that there is no there is no wishy washing policies here.

(43:13):
Israel and the US are on the same day, and
the US will back Israel militarily if and when they
need to continue this battle. And that's also been a
message that has come out of the Frump administration, which
again the previous administration was waffuling on this matter. And
I think that the fact that we are in the
same page now, you know, does show the turns and

(43:35):
does show that they are going to act when they
need to.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I saw former Harvard professor Alan Dershwitz on one of
the programs in the last couple of days. He said,
this deal would be unattainable for presidents Obama or Biden.
Obama tried to buy some sort of deal with Iran
and therefore it's it's subsidiaries like kamal Us with money.

(44:01):
And Biden was just I mean, he was a complete
neurological mess when he was in office and probably wasn't
running the country, let alone foreign policy. But Trump got
a deal that the other two guys before him could
not get.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
It was Dershowitz, right, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (44:19):
I don't disagree with Dershowitz on that point. I mean,
I think that we were engaged, and specifically under the
Obama years in this policy of appeasements towards Daran, which
was followed through by the Biden administration. And you saw
that the mixed messages that came out of the Biden
administration even in the first month and you know, I

(44:40):
would say sixty days of the war, where they were
already trying to appase Kamas and trying to make the Israelis,
which eventually is what they did, fight with one hand
behind their backs and that was that all around. It
was only when the Israelis were able to turn the
corner and make those significant successes. And that was aparently

(45:00):
why taking out Hazballah, you know, you know, going after run,
moving along when it came to Rau inside of Gazza
that you did see these more military significant move and
that and that, and that worked well and was fortified
once Trump came into office in January.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Okay, see you've got Hamas and one of the bodies
that they sent back to Israel is not the body
of a hostage. They must have spare bodies lying around
Gaza all over the place. Uh so the body parts
were not of one of the hostages.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
We know that.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
We also know that they have been executing people in
Gaza city mentioned that before. You know, Trump wants this
deal to work. This is a this is a crowning
achievement for him. This is something that no other president,
to my mind, has been able to pull off. This
is a coalition of countries that have come together to
say this is it, and this is the deal and take.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It or leave it.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
At what point? At what point does patients run out?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Because if it's not holding here inside of seventy two
hours after that paper was signed. At what point does
patients run out? What is the line in your opinion
that Hamas must not cross, because if they do, then
the deal blows up and then we're back to military action.

Speaker 12 (46:23):
If we start seeing more rockets flying in from Gazam
back into Israel, and if we start seeing more military
activity attacking israelis I mean, let's be clear here, Israel
is still about fifty five fifty six percent and still
controlling Gazo and so, and if they need to continue

(46:46):
the battle and continue to actually go inward where they
left on those lines, then that'll be a clear red line.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Doctor, this is going to sound like a basic naive question,
but I excel at these kinds of questions, so please
bear with me. We're chatting with doctor s. F. Romerowski, PhD. Well,
he's a doctor, that's why he's a PhD. King's College, London.
Why can't everybody in that area of the country of
the world get along? Is it all religious based? Is

(47:15):
it all historical? Why can't people see that here now
as opposed to what happened in the past and just say,
you know what, it's in everybody's best interest financially and
certainly from a health standpoint, to just start getting along
with each other.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Why can't that happen?

Speaker 12 (47:31):
Well, I mean, and if we solve that problem might
be out of business. But you know, there's you know,
these conflicts have been going on for decades and you
know we're all jumping aside. I mean, the fact of
the matter is that the conflict is indeed entangled theologically, culturally, politically.
But when it comes in particular to the Israeli Pabalistinian dynamic,

(47:53):
the ultimate fact that rejectionism is always trump statehood, and
the fact that at every point in time where the
Arab Palestinians were offered a state a compromise, they've always
renexed on their promises and they've never followed through. It's
quite telling about their ideology. And Hamas again is not
given up their objective as far as the destruction of

(48:15):
the state of Israel. And so when you have this
black and white binary understanding and the fact that Arab
Palestinians refused to accept Israel's rights to exist, this is
where it all goes on. And you know, this is
a cycle that continues from generation to generation educationally wise,
as an academic I will tell you, I mean the
fact that there is no education towards accepting the other

(48:39):
and accepting Israel's rights resistant peace, whereas Israeli textbooks indeed
do talk about that. That is also part of the
rejectionism that you know, is infusing this ideology from from
a very young age.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Doctor Hamas has to disarm. Who's going to make them
do that?

Speaker 12 (49:02):
I think that we might we will see pressure coming
from the Trump administration to try to get these patrons,
you know, and kind of give carriage. If the Turks
and if the Kataris try to push Gaza to uh,
you know, move move along, that could potentially help with deal.
And of course let's not forget the gods in our
Egyptian and so if Egypt gets involved here, that will

(49:24):
be another pressure point to move this along. The more
pressure is coming from the Arab brethren, there is more
of a shot that you could push Kamas but the
I but ultimately the ultimate goal is to disentangle Comas
from Palestinian society such as it is. If you're able
to kind of clean out whatever you can salvage, that's

(49:45):
a better way to go about this. Kamas is now
trying to reinvent itself as a law and order force,
internal security force. If these are all the trigger and
code name that they're giving themselves as they're going around
the streets of Gaza City and killing their own you know,
you know, you know, executing people left and right. But
that needs to change. The other part of the deal,

(50:07):
which was again another parrot that with Coffin, Trump gave
Comas was amnesty. That is to say that Hamas leadership
could leave Gaza and go to cut her in Turkey again.
Are you just prolonging and putting a bandit on the problem.
That's my read on the issue. Uh, I mean, we're
going to be in this for a while. Not to

(50:28):
mention the fact that it took Comas twenty years to
build a may A tunnel, a tunnel maze of Gaza,
It'll take that long to rebuild it. And not to
mention I think last estimates that I saw were like
in the amounts of a circular, you know, circling around
one hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty five billion
dollars that requires to rebuild, rehabilitate and start, you know,

(50:52):
and build something new.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, well, you're right, you're not going to be out
of business anytime soon. And I know doctor that you're
a very busy guy this day and age, and we
appreciate your time here on seven hundred WYLW.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You take care, okay, thank you so much.

Speaker 12 (51:08):
Thank for having me.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yes, sir, without a question, Yes, sir, I give it
a It's not going to last. There's something. It's just you.
You're talking about centuries of hostilities, and I think it's
tenuous at best, but at least it's a start, and
we'll see how good some of these other countries are

(51:32):
with regards to this, because there are a lot of
countries that he made deals with that I don't trust either.
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Speaker 7 (52:02):
I know, ken Brew, I'm watching I'm just kind of
sitting here not looking at anybody. I know she's watching us.
I know she's watching you because she ain't looking at me.
By the way, who the hell is she? That's the
police chief. She was called back from Denver last night
at a police conference. I wonder who did you think
she had a foot the bill for that plane or
do you think the city of Cincinnati sent AFT tab

(52:25):
one out there she flew coach? Yeah, probably so middle
c or probably probably Greyhounds middle seat coach on the
Red Eye. Yeah, she's probably in Wichita, Kansas right now.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
TG the TG.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
Well, you know, I don't know what's who knows what,
and you know what's gonna happen in Downtown's like, you know,
they're it's unbelievable. They got a football game down there
tonight and hopefully everything good.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
A football game in town. Yeah, well you heard Ken Coober.
He says, get the hell out of there immediately after
the game end. Hey, if they beaped up security on
Fountain Square from two o'clock in the afternoon at ten
o'clock at night, So if you park up there, you're
good until halftime, but get the hell out after halftime.

Speaker 7 (53:07):
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Speaker 1 (53:37):
You know they're known for chicken, have you know that?
Seg Yeah, but they're the mem Burgers that they send
up is what I eat. I only eat red meat
once a week, and it's when Ron Russe shows up here.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
Pam brought us and you know what the special guest
today was Oga herself. Oga brought it up correct and
will and Willie wasn't here for the first time ever.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Well, I would be a poor substitute for will He.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
See YouTube ken Brew.

Speaker 7 (54:05):
Let's see Bengals up today, brought to you by Good Spirits
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Big game downtown tonight, ken Brew Pittsburgh four and one,
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Speaker 1 (54:23):
Say let me ask you this, yes, sir, how many
Steeler fans you think will be there tonight? And will
they outnumber Bengals fans?

Speaker 7 (54:31):
I think they'll be There's usually like a fair amount
of past Steeler fans at any game.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
No, I got a book here. I won't give his
real name.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Okay, I'm not going to do that, but let's for
for this sake, let's call him Ralph.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Okay, Ralph gets.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Season tickets to the Bengals games, and he goes to
every game except the Steeler game because he then puts
those tickets on stub Hub or whatever the hell it
is and make haays for his entire rest of his
season ticket. That's why I looked at I saw him
two days as you go all the game? Nope, I said,
what'd you get for those tickets? And let's just put

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it this way, he could have bought two more season
tickets for what he got. Here's somebody, here's some some stullar,
some stellar fan from being that'll be here.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
So PA that's coming in and paid Ralph. They'll be here,
ken Brew. You know that because like just like the well,
maybe the Browns fans might not be anymore, but showing
up like the Cubs. Uh Bengal and Best Bengals Coverage
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L Carriers up all night with Austin Elmore. Amen. No
woman in the world has ever said that Red's update.
Let's see Red's third base coach Jr. House, Yes, has

(55:57):
been hired by the Arizona Diamondbacks are the same position.
He's an Arizona native, so he's probably home six. So
he wants to go home. Spend twenty nineteen and to
twenty twenty five of the Reds. He was the last
of the coaching staff on this current Reds group under
David Bell.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
So j R.

Speaker 7 (56:16):
House just wants to go back home, and he got
hired by the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Well, you know what I mean. That happens.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
You know if somebody said, said, listening, if you were
hired by a station in in like Colorado and you
were very successful there, Yeah, but then the phone call
came from WLW and you said, I got to go home.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
I don't care how successful I am here, I got
to go home.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
True.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You would do it, right. Yeah, we don't begrudge people
for doing that.

Speaker 7 (56:42):
Spencer Steer and Key Brian Hayes our finalist for the
Baseball Gold Glove Awards. It's going to be announced November two.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Well, we don't keep Key Bryan's not up for any
offensive awards like the Silk Slugger.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
We know that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
America League Championship Series Game three last night, Toronto belts
out five home thirteen to four round of the Mariners. Yeah,
Seattle is still up to to one tonight at eight thirty.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Game four.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
The NLCS resumes tonight in Los Angeles. Dodgers own a
two to zero lead against the Brew Crew Crew to
tonight six o'clock.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
They have not named a starting pitcher yet for tonight's game.
Have not may You're not going to know. And Tyler
Glasnell is on the mound for the Dodgers. Another tough one.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Now, let's see college basketball, Ken Brew, No, Cincinnati Bearcats
are going north the exhibition play tomorrow right against the
team up north in Michigan, Xavier and Murray State at
the Centas Center Saturday afternoon in exhibition play.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
For some reason, we're broadcasting that game at two o'clock.
Do you do all that if that game is being
being carried live here on WYLW. I did not know that. Yeah,
most of these scrimmages are these exhibition games. They play
for like a half, then they turn the clock off,
then they work on individual drills. I think, I think Joe,
I think Show and Byron are going to have a

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lot of work to do on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
It's not a typical back and forth game.

Speaker 7 (58:06):
Also, ken Brew, we want to say congratulations that you
see Claremont their girls volleyball team is number one in
the nation right in the USCAA Division two volleyball pole.
There you go, gratulations absolutely. Hockey tonight Columbus hosting Colorado
Columbus Cyclones.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
They're not very good, are they now?

Speaker 3 (58:28):
They're one and two?

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Well it's early.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
Cyclones open their season Saturday night against Wheeling. Namely three
guys on the Cyclones Justin Vive, Paul Lawless, no, he's retired,
and Don Biggs.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
No.

Speaker 7 (58:46):
I think Justin Vive is the only one I can remember.
They turned the roster turns over a lot year to
years exactly, new coach and everything Foor Cyclones a new
coach and the Miami RedHawks ken Brew four and oh
in hockey four and oh.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Look out they're gonna do.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
They're gonna be the Miami Dolphins of college hockey. Miami's
gonna go fifty and oh in hote.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Oh boy, that's great, seg that's good for them. Out
what's the Ohio University hockey team doing? Can we get
some coverage for them?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (59:16):
Right, I think they're on I think they're on the
Project tonight, segu Let me just ask you a question, yes, sir, yeah,
you're not.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
You don't live in Cincinnati. Do you know you live
in a suburbs. We're not going to give with a suburb, right,
but you live. If you had a choice, would you
go to that game tonight? Would you venture into downtown
Cincinnati and go to and where would you park?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Well?

Speaker 7 (59:40):
I don't know that that football. I don't know I
would probably you know who's loving all is not loving it?
But you know we're gonna make out from all this.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Those guys down by pay Corse Stadium that charged like
ninety dollars to park your car.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
Oh yeah, well, I mean when we were at when
we had the tailgate last year at Longworth. They were
at charge in sixty. Yeah, and I'm sure it's probably seven.
It's probably I don't it's probably not the same this year.
It's probably seventy dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Well, you could sit in the stands and just you
can see your car. You just you know, you watch
the game, you keep your eye on your car. Those
guys are going to make out like bandits. Now a
question for you, Ken Brew. Yes, the other night I'm watching.

Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
W c E T forty eight and that show about
King's King Records.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yes, excellent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
Have you seen that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
It's excellent, unbelievable. I watched that. I learned stuff, never
even knew. I knew where it was in Cincinnati, but
I had no idea about what all the stories behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Well, you know, missed opportunity on the producers. They should
have had more Bootsy Collins in there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
I thought.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
I was waiting for that and it never came, you know.
And then and they said that Cincinnati could have been
as big as Sun Records in Memphis, absolutely and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Motown in Detroit, and it would have worked out. You
know that building that that place was in. It just
deteriorated over time. I think they were udf ice cream truck.
We're parking inside there at once seventy one there right right.
You can see it as you're going north on. It's
on your left hand side going north on seventy one.
But it's sat there then. I don't know, maybe fifteen

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twenty years ago they put a plaque outside there. This
was once King Records, and that thing is rusting or whatever.
So it I mean, it could have been. It could
have been. It's like the airport could have been in Cincinnati. No,
it's over in northern Kentucky. I mean all it could
have been. So this could have been a major railway
stop back in the day. But of course it isn't,
and it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It could be, it could be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Well that's why I say we got to get our
arms around our problems and celebrate our victories if we could,
you know, I could use that if I ever ran
for mayor get our arms around our problems and celebrate
our victories.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
That's what we need to do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
I'd be good on a T shirt. I'd get one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I'm a little late for the election cycle this year,
but if it ever comes up again, I just might,
I just might do.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
I got this slogan already. Yeah, yeah, got the looks.
I mean you know, I mean, you know you can
be on TV and talk.

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
Right, I've had this feeling and my gud of like
I'm holding Ohio in my arms and I'm like single
handedly like tak en.

Speaker 7 (01:02:07):
Virus stay out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Okay, that got as much chance as me, right, But
I know, put you get our arms around our problems
and celebrate our victories. It beats what the guy that
runs this city has on his shirt, which is you
can you can find me in Vancouver.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
Yeah that's true, as this kid wanted to see the
boats or something.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
So get us out of the Stooge Report because there
are a lot of things that are percolating. I'm going
to talk about Charlie Kirk and the Kennedy assassination and
how they're intertwined.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
What do you hear this one?

Speaker 7 (01:02:36):
Okay, ken brew in honor of a beautiful day here
in the tri State and go Bengals who day against
those Steelers tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Absolutely we leave you.

Speaker 7 (01:02:45):
With the immortal words of the Stowe Report.

Speaker 14 (01:02:49):
Hey, thanks for having me on, Guys, I've chess the
deals in ratings, and it's about time you had me
back instead of them battle out mouths you've had on
the past couple of weeks. Both have me back at
more because the people love the Wizard.

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
You know what I'm saying. I'll see you guys later. Wow,
you know that wizard, That wizard guy could have been
as big as uh as fond Dreeve Get skipper Ryle
Uncle Al and the cool Goal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
And to think we did all of that when recreational
marijuana was not legal.

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
Great writing though, should have won an award for that,
should have absolutely well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
The show cratered after I left. That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
As to most of the relationships I'm involved. I'll see
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Enter it now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Two o nine news Radio seven hundred wl W. Welcome back.
I am ken Brew. Great to have you with us.
Bengals pregame show in about an hour.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
A couple of days ago in the White House, there
was a large gathering to watch the President of the
United States, Donald Trump and the Presidential Medal of Freedom
award to the widow of Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk, of
course gunned down in broad daylight about five weeks ago
in Utah, and while the investigation continues into that case,

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they apprehended a suspect in the case about thirty five
thirty six hours after the assassination. The actual process of
gaining evidence and convicting the alleged suspect remains an ongoing process.
There was also, in the course of history a lot
of other times were people who have been taken out

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simply because their views don't align with the view of
the guy with the gun, and invariably the guy with
the gun always wins. There are parallels that can be
drawn to other assassinations, not the least of which the
assassination in nineteen hundred and sixty three of President John
Fitzgerald Kennedy. And for decades my next guest has been
doing research into the JFK assassination and also now here recently,

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Howard parallels in a lot of ways the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. He is doctor David Mantik. He is a
medical physicist and radiation oncologist and has just released a book.
JFKY was killed by consensus. Dealey Plaza was just the
final stop. Doctor David Mantik joins us right here and

(01:05:36):
right now in Doctor Mantick, how are you on this
glorious Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Well, we're enjoying the beach ary Karlsbad, California under Claibler Sky,
So it's paradise.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Well, we have clear blue skies here in Cincinnati, and
our beach is the Ohio River. So take that as
it may be. But it's great to have you have
you join us. Okay, let's just talk about what you
have found as you have dug into the Kennedy assassination,
and then maybe we can draw a parallel to what
has happened with Charlie Kirk. I was old enough to

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remember the Kennedy assassination. I was about eleven years old
when he was murdered in Dallas. Obviously, the country was
in great shock. It was not that long after another
great president that was revered in this country, Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
died by natural causes. But nevertheless, there was a traumatic time.
And I'm as you've delved into the research, and we

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know what the Warren Commission has said, and we know
what the Church Commission said back in the seventies, and
we know all of these new documents that have just
been released on the order of President Trump. What have
you found in your research that runs concurrent to what
we know or we think we know about the JFK assassination.

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Well, the one word that stands out is transparency. We
remember really have a transparency in the assassination of JFK.
And that's a clear problem here with Charlie Kirk too.
There's no release of the autoxi report. For example, were
x rays taken? The x rays, of course would be

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helpful to show exactly where the bullet was and what
teliber it was. What about facial recognition of Tyler Robinson
the suspect, and facial recognition actually identify him. And what
about the ballistics that supposedly might connect the bullets found

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by the surgeon to the weapons found in the wooded area?
Where's that report? Why can't we see that? Is it
going to come out in the trial? Is the Putt
trial going to be public? How much transparency will we see?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Well, let me just put the pause button here. It's
been five weeks. Should we or should they?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
The FBI?

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
I should know if bullet match is gun, there's no
question about that at this point, But why would we
expect to hear that kind of information in a process
that is still underway to from the government standpoint, get
a conviction on this guy?

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Might be jumping the gun a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
Though I'm not.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Blaming anyone for hiding anything at this point. I'm basically
suggesting to the audience that keep these questions in mind
as we follow this case. These facts should eventually emerge,
and one would expect eventually that they would become public.
Perhaps it is too early now, so I'm not complaining
too much about this light the way, but in the

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long run, those are the big.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Questions to the Kennedy assassination. We were told from Jump
it was Lee Harvey Oswald. There was a story that
he was in Russia, came back from Russia, that there
was Cuban involvement. New Orleans was a big player in
the conspiracy. There was a mafia boss from Tampa that
might have also come into play. Then we heard, well,

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the CIA may be involved. And there are a number
of stories that were concocted in and around his assassination,
some of which are still with what the government is
running with even here now, sixty years after it happened.
I'm I'm wondering, what did you find in your research
or what did you find that might be a red
flag as to what we have been told all these

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many years.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Well, if you go to week at TVA today and
look at I suppose assassin them the JSK case Lee
Harvey Oswald, you will see quite clearly that it says
Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated to Okay, plain and simple. Does

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that surprise you?

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
No, No, it's quite amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Yeah, stuck about sixty two years later.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Why, I'm sorry, go ahead, I'm sorry to go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
Radiation oncologists. I knew that examination of the X rays
at the Archives might prove very useful. In particular, on
the frontal X ray of JFK Skull, there is a
six point five milimeter nearly round object that appears to
be a cross section of a bullet. Unfortunately, the pathologists

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that the autopsy did not report this, and they claimed
they did not see it. So I was curious about
what this really was for. It turns out, after hundreds
of measurements that I made directly on those existing X
rays at the Archives, that it's a fake. It was
put on the X ray film within a week or

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sough of the exascinations, and it was not there. The
pathologists were right. It was added later and I was
able to show in the dark room exactly how to
do that. That's I'll discussed and illustrated in my books.
So I knew that that was a smoking gun. They
took quest not never there. The metal that supparently represented

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was never in the archives. It is not there today.
It's never been there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
The autopsy was done, if I'm not mistaken, and please
correct me if I'm wrong, was done at the Bethesda
Naval Hospital in Washington, d C. There was a great
amount of consternation as to why, as to not just why,
but whether his body should be moved out of Dallas.
The Dallas authorities said it was a murder, it happened
to our town, in our town, We're not moving this body.

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The Secret Service had other ideas. They got the body
on Air Force one. They brought it back to d C.
It went to the Bethesda Naval Hospital for autopsy, and
from what I have read, that was a crowded room.
It was a doctor that was performing the autopsy, but
there were many secret service and other government of some
say CIA officials that were inside the actual autopsy room

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running roughshot over the guy that was doing the autopsy.
The guy that did the autopsy looked like he was
confident but was under tremendous stress by these other people
who were in the room. Is that true, number one?
And do you think that has anything to do with
what you have discovered?

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
Yeah, that's a fair summary of what happened. He was
just at the twenty year March for being in the
Navy until his whole feature was hanging in the balance
on whether or not he followed military directions that night,
so he really had no choice. He had to do
exactly what they told him to do. For example, James Jenkins,

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who was there at the autopsy all night long, and
his stud who still lives and who I have interacted
with many times, reports that there was a bullet entry
rooms in the right temple and when he and the
assistant the pethologists were going to explore it, they were

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immediately told to stop by doctor Hume, was the chief tathologist,
after he was called over by one of the high
ranking military people and he was told just to ignore that.
So they did not have any freedom to exercise their
professional skill.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
For this is sixty years.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
As I said, down the road there was there was,
I think a philosophy that is true, bearing I don't
have any information of this. I think the government was
trying to keep the American public from turning into some
sort of chaotic group that, you know, if they had
found out the quote unquote real story, we couldn't handle
it as an American people. But here we are, sixty

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years down the road. We've had the Warrant Commission, which
you know, truthfully just seemed like an endorsement of the
lone gunman and basically a rubber stamp of what the
government wanted to say. The man that shot Kennedy, the
alleged loan assassin, he was murdered two days later. We
had the Church Commission. As I recall, back in the seventies,

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Frank Church, a US congressman, headed a commission that said
that there probably was another gunman. And yet that kind
of got you buried in more government speak. And then
these other documents that came out in the last couple
of years seemed to have no real relevance to what

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the whole investigation was about. My point being is we've
been running with the same story for sixty years. And
if the government's intention was to keep this information from
us because we would turn into a nation of complete chaos, well,
most of us that were around in nineteen sixty three, unfortunately,

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are dead or are marching towards it. What are they
protecting us from now?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Why? You know, when Trump says I'm going to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Release the files and we're going to get all these out, well,
if the files are the same basically as what we
saw or were led to believe sixty years ago, why
are they still Why are they still running the same game?

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Well, I think the intelligence community has a lot of
good reasons to hide this stuff because they're so embarrassed
by what it would show. And we've just not too
long ago, had a wonderful relief that demonstrates this.

Speaker 13 (01:15:28):
When the House Select Committee in the seventies was reinvestigating
this case, one of the liaisons between the CIA and
the House was George Gianides. Well, the House Committee did
not know that Jianides was one of the prime conspirators

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working with the anti Castro.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Cubans in nineteen sixty three, and so that document has
only recently been released and as a result of his
he's so called excellent works Unity was awarded a medal
by the CIA because he kept this information from the house.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
My gosh, JFK. JFK was killed by consensus. Deally pleasant
was just the final stop. It's authored by our guest,
doctor David Mantick has written other books on this as well.
We talked about the Charlie Kirk assassination. How our antenna
has to be up on exactly who this person was
that killed him. Was he motivated or financed or in

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some way, shape or form co op by other people.
You know, they're but the grace of God by about
a quarter of an inch. Donald Trump would have been
murdered in July of twenty twenty four, and yet we
know nothing about the guy that shot him. They clean
that place up like it was some maid service that

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was on deadline. The body gone, the blood gone, And
it wasn't you know, it wasn't a cleaning crew that
did it. It was the federal government that did it.
So here we go. It could have been the same
damn thing all over again.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Right, Yes, a lot of secrets are still being held there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yes, well, doctor, what is the what is the what
are the chances that will ever be told the real story?
Because there have been books written about the conspiracy of JFK.
And you know what the works are, and you know
who the authors are. They started coming out within a
year of his assassination. But what do you think the

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chances are of the government ever coming clean on this
and it happening in your lifetime?

Speaker 4 (01:17:44):
No, they won't. But we can learn this without them.
That's what my book is about. The now. How the
list of real names, the real people of the public,
names that a lot of people will recognized, like Nelson Rockefeller,
people who knew what was going to happen, twelve will
a bit to serve under Macalker in the Pacific hl Hunt.

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These are all prominent names that we know are on
the list of people who sponsored the execution I call it.
And hl Hunt had sixty times as much money as
the Kennedys, so he could have hundred many such executions
if he had wanted to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
See astounding doctor Mantek interesting things and how these two
assassinations paralleled each other. And no, I never bought the
Lee Harvey Oswald explanation. He might have been he might
have been at best of Patsy. I never bought that
for a second. And we'll never know, unfortunately, unless people

(01:18:47):
like you continue to do work. But you've got to
have information to do this kind of work, and it
is guarded secrets. And I just don't understand why the
government just doesn't come clean. You know, there's there's empowerment doctor, Really,
when you admit something as opposed to trying to keep
covering it up, covering it up, whether it's whether it's
a government or in your personal life, there's empowerment in that.

(01:19:11):
And I don't think the people in Washington have figured
that part out. Good luck on your future work, Good
luck with this book, doctor, Thank you so much for
your time.

Speaker 13 (01:19:19):
Oh it's been a pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:19:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
There is doctor David Mantick. And again his book is
JFK was Killed by Consensus. Deally Plaza was just the
final stop and he names names.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
It's coming up on two twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
It is the average American in for the Great American
News Radio seven hundred w l W.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
And that's how it should be.

Speaker 10 (01:19:43):
And so that'd be said.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
I'll shut up and open it up with questions.

Speaker 12 (01:19:51):
Hello by it, and I'm I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
Mike tom One is back in town. That's right. Mike
Tomlin's back in town. That is correct. You know what
he told us this week? You know what he told us.

Speaker 10 (01:20:09):
I would imagine there'll be a certain level of excitement. Man,
those guys having Joe Flaccu in a home venue on
a Thursday night. It's some primetime ball.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
Primetime ball.

Speaker 10 (01:20:19):
We covered that as well. Yes, we love going into
hostile environments. We love the visuital play.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
We covered that.

Speaker 10 (01:20:24):
I certainly love and respect and appreciate being a component
of primetime football.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
You want to be a component of something. What are
you a component of? Seg What would you say if
someone said to you, I'm a component of and you would.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Say hard media. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
You're a component of that. I think so well, you've
been there a long time. They give you a lot
of swag to wear, you know, they give his shirts.
I've never gotten anything, you know, for my time here,
like a shirt or anything, a bug, nothing. So it's
like to show up and fill in is what it is.
That's right, Come like it. Come down that fire pole
from the seventh floor where I bunk We bunk up there,

(01:21:01):
me and Sterling and Gary Jeff on the roof. Yeah,
we got a little we got a little bachelor pad
up there, okay. And then when somebody calls in sick
or you know, Sloan has to Sloan has to rehab
a bathroom or something, they just ring it up there
and I come right down the pool.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I'll fill in.

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Look at how about you know that that's I got
to find that place. I haven't I come up and
visit you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Well, I would suggest you and Gary Jeff and Sterling
come on the thirtieth. The Hawkens Steve Hawkins is up there.
Come on the thirtieth of every month because the place
is cleaned on the twenty ninth. It's once a month. Boy,
we have someone to come in and clean it. It's
a little crunchy up there right now. But you know,
come up like that right before Halloween.

Speaker 7 (01:21:43):
We'll have you up there for like like, hey, you
guys got to give out that candy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
We'll give it out candy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
You are you know we're throwing off the roof.

Speaker 7 (01:21:51):
Right, We're giving out mounds. We're giving out mounds.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Bar Yeah, are good, right, but come up there because
it gets lonely up there, Gary, Jeff likes to read
Yeah yeah, at Hawkins. You know he's he's you know,
he's back to being coherent.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
He's up there.

Speaker 7 (01:22:06):
You know, he likes that he's got a telescope that
he looks at the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Absolute now Stirling.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
I mean, he's like got a corner of the room
where he sits with his legs crossed, and you know
there's like incense. Yeah, incense is going up and he
chanced I'm one with the universe. I'm one with the universe.
But other than that, it's a very nice place he
should come up.

Speaker 7 (01:22:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Thank you, Roxy, Thank yeah Amen.

Speaker 7 (01:22:46):
Pittsburgh four and one Bengals look to snap that four
game losing streak tonight at two and four. They meet
tonight at pay Course Stadium, right there along the Big
River Mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
I get him the collection of men in the depth
of that.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
Talent Angles update brought to you by Good Spirits and
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former UH co host of the Bengals radio network. Somebody

(01:23:19):
told me he wrote a book. Yeah he did. Did
you read it?

Speaker 15 (01:23:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
I haven't, No, No, he wrote it with the UH.

Speaker 7 (01:23:28):
You know when he and Hood he chase the football
the basketball coach at one day made face. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think it's something with I don't forget what the
name of the book is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
This is tough, this hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:23:43):
Bengals, Bengals Best Bengals Coverage three o'clock Ornell Carriers pregame
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Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Three three Bengal fans. All the people that have come
through this.

Speaker 7 (01:23:58):
Get to a show just by name and names, we
could dig up some bones Live from Depressing, Live from
the Holy Grail tonight at seven seven out of WLW.
Kickoff is at eight point fifteen and then Austin Elmore
after the game, roll into the night with the Tri
State Chevy Dealers post game show presented by rnel carriers.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
And hopefully out of sight.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
I tell you, I hope you hope they win. That's
gonna be a long night.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
What happens to him if they lose this or something?

Speaker 6 (01:24:29):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Nothing?

Speaker 7 (01:24:30):
I mean, it's being the same old thing, all right.
Maybe you take updates on the crime and downtown after
the game or something.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Well, you know, phone in, you know, he'll take phone
calls on that.

Speaker 7 (01:24:39):
NLCS rezuomes tonight in Los Angeles. Dodgers up too, oh,
and we're against the brew Crew at six. Then the
Mariners and the Blue Jays go at it in Seattle
game for the A l c s and eight thirty
with the Mariners up to oh or two one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Excuse me, hey, seg I got a question for you, Yes, sir,
what were you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
What were you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Forty nine years ago today? Forty nine years ago today,
Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder released the album Songs in the
Key of Life. It went to number one on the
US album charts and spawned a number of hits I
wish Isn't She Lovely?

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
And of course in it, Sir Duke.

Speaker 7 (01:25:24):
Music dans a rober than thatself. The language be on
the day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
It's called hitting the post.

Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
Though I know I'm Casey Caseon, keep your feet on
the ground and keep reaching for the stars.

Speaker 7 (01:25:39):
Let's see Houston has been picked to when the peace
TENO say's I know I don't not Stevie Wonder, but
Casey Casey. Yeah, yeah, Houston picked the win. Is the
favorite to win the Big twelve men's basketball in the
preseason poll. B Yu a second, Texas Tech third, Yeah,
Wes Miller, Cincinnati Cats eighth. They got some dude that's seven.

(01:26:03):
Is he seven foot nine or something like that? Yeah, something,
But they got their other big man at six eight.
The Hayes is out for a while. Well, that lower
body injury, but oh they'd one of those. I had
one of those, said, I got a lower body injury
many years ago. It's not pleasant. I think I've had
one since I've been born. Well, it's it's better than
a middle body injury. I can tell you that I
got one of those too. Also, ken Brew, we say Congress,

(01:26:26):
good luck, good luck to Zach Russ, nineteen year old
out of Fort Thomas. He balances his life and is
aspiring MMA fighter and a certified nursing assistant. Wait a minute,
he's a nurse and he beats people up. Well, he's
gonna Russ is going to make his professional MMA the
debut what Saturday at the Mega Corp Pavilion in Newport.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
No kidding, I mean I did not know this. Yep,
he's thought you were a kidding. There here's a nurse
that he's an MMA fighter.

Speaker 7 (01:26:58):
He was inspired by the a UFC during the pandemic.
He began this combat sports journey by joining his high
school wrestling team.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Oh okay, that's great.

Speaker 7 (01:27:09):
He's going to make his debut in Newport on the
on Saturday. Where's good luck to it? He's from the
Fort Thomas, beautiful, great town, North I love. I like
Fort Thomas.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Good luck to him.

Speaker 6 (01:27:21):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Seg what else do we have here today?

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
That's all we got? Ken Brew? I think that's it.
What's going to happen tonight in the stadium. Give me
a winner, give me a score.

Speaker 7 (01:27:29):
I think the Bengals win tonight, ken Brew?

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
You think they win? Yes, thirty to twenty one. So
you're looking for a lot of points tonight. Yes, thirty
to twenty one tonight they beat the Steelers.

Speaker 7 (01:27:40):
Or it could be seven to three, could be they lose. Right, Yeah,
they're due for a win.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Win, Amen.

Speaker 7 (01:27:47):
And you know what, ken Brew, The key of to
me is, they got to come out fast. They got
to play like they have in the past couple of games.
They played big time in the second half. They got
to move that to the first half. You got what
they gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
You got to go down there and tell them that
because I don't think they're getting I don't think Zach
Taylor is getting through.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Whatever he's telling.

Speaker 7 (01:28:06):
Them is, don't defer the kickoff, take the ball, get
the points, Spingo. I want to see what the other
team does before I get the ball, and he just
cares what the other team does.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
You got the ball, you do something.

Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
You saw where money Mack had a sixty seven yard
or the other day he could kick it from he
could kick it from from Norwood and make the field goal.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
He had a sixty seven yard but it didn't didn't
count because he's run around here said he had a
sixty sep yet well he didn't get the next and
then at.

Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
The crossbar and went in instead of If he would
have done that, he probably would have bounced out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
And what happened the next time he tried, like like
two seconds later. The guy always ran it back for
a touchdown.

Speaker 7 (01:28:44):
I'll love i'llah the what the Auburn game years ago,
a few years ago with Alabama or something.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
So I don't care what people do when it doesn't count.
I care about what people do when it counts. Okay,
all right, see what I'm saying here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Well, it makes no difference what you say in the
practice booth there at wyl W. It's what you do
when you're sitting in here with us one point there.
The world is full of what might have been. You
want to be the guy who is the guy that
makes it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
I'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
That's the thing.

Speaker 7 (01:29:13):
Another thing for my T shirt too, When it's going
to be a million seller, it could be under you know, well,
you know what, I'll just give it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
Who's the guy, the the comedian with the sincy shirt store.
I'll give it a hemy Jos Josh Need. Yeah, you
give him a slogan and a picture logo and a picture,
he'll he'll sell it for like thirty dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Then go, you know, you get half of it.

Speaker 7 (01:29:34):
Put my little on there, royalty, just my little face
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Just you know, it's what you do now is what matters.

Speaker 15 (01:29:41):
There.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
You go say, get us out of the stooge report,
because apparently we have to be out early. There's something
called a whoopsie who day. And then after that it's
it's the boys from the.

Speaker 7 (01:29:51):
Grail Ken brew it under a hood, a nation, and
a victory. Hopefully tonight we leave you with the immortal
words of the stew Dripple.

Speaker 15 (01:30:03):
Yeah that's Tom Dinkle. My dentist thinks that that really
is somebody with bad gas.

Speaker 7 (01:30:18):
What he does on time bright, Yeah, there's some guy
that can see that onto it might be I don't know, ye.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Win the game pay since naddie, Yeah, play it he does.
It's an elephant, all the elephant with bad gas.

Speaker 13 (01:30:36):
Excuse me.

Speaker 7 (01:30:37):
And if you've ever been around an elephant with bad gas,
you don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
To be on that again.

Speaker 7 (01:30:43):
He's that can smell it from the zoo from here
there it is. I'm just telling you our rhino. Do
they still play this at the games? Yeah, yeah, goody
good Andrew Whitworth at the ruler of the Jungle that
I get Andrew Woodworth. You know Elsa is in town.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Fixie Ryan Fitzpatrick Fitzi fitzy Ryan Fitzpatrick or is it
Patrick fitz Ryan? No is Ryan Fitzpatrick. When he's at
the game time, what if.

Speaker 7 (01:31:09):
It'll rip his shirt off after the post game show
on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
Well, I remember what when he was here, it looked
like he he actually made games exciting in a season
that he's not very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I mean that dude put it up.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Amen to them, you got what's got to happen next,
But he just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Made it exciting. And they and they and you know what,
they still haven't replaced Whitworth.

Speaker 7 (01:31:34):
He may he make me if he doesn't like the
first half, he may suit up the second half.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
We gotta go because we got Whoopsie who Day, and
then we got we got the boys from the Grails,
So we can't. We can't dawdle here, you know what
I mean? I got you, thank you, Yes, Sir, Can
Bruce Later is seg walking out the door. That'll do
it for me. I don't know when will he's back,
but I know I'm not filling in for him tomorrow,
and the rest of the stuff is mere.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
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