October 7, 2025 • 17 mins
Willie discusses the October 7th attacks on Israel, and the war in Gaza since then with author Uri Kaufman.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American October the seventh, twenty twenty
three is a date that will live an infamy for
those of the Jewish faith.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I think throughout the world as far.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
As the of the aggravation of what happened with the
Hamas has below all the Islamic extremists and what happened
on that date is incredible. And joining you and I
now as Urik Kaufman, author of American Intafada and Professor
Urik Kaufman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
much as we did during nine to eleven or maybe
(00:36):
Pearl Harbor, the world change for Israel on October the seventh,
twenty twenty three. Can you describe Israel, say, on October
the third or fourth of twenty twenty three, two or
three days before the attack by Hamas the status of
Israel at that point. Then we're going to compare it
to what Israel was today after October the seventh, and
what's happening today. But describe Israel, say a couple of
(00:59):
days before October the seventh.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You go back to let's say October the sixth, twenty
twenty three. Okay, Israel, I could say, was in its
golden age. Its economy was thriving. Its per capita income
was higher than Germany, Italy, Britain, France, Canada. Even it
seemed like it was in an extended period of peace.
It was only spending three and a half percent of
(01:22):
its GDP on defense, the lowest level in its history,
I think, even a bit lower than what we spent
here in America. It really looked like blue skies ahead,
and then just overnight the whole thing went upside down,
which kind of is what happened in nineteen seventy three.
It looked like everything was great, and then October the sixth,
nineteen seventy three, came along and everything got turned upside down.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Of course, I was there six months before that. I
sensed when I spoke to israelis I spent time in
the West Bank, spent time in Masada, spent time in
Palestinian held territories. It was safe, it was secure. We
were told there might be some rockets at the Hotel David.
If that's the case, we'll give you a warning, go
into the stairwell. None of that happened. The streets were
(02:04):
full of tourism. I was told that before October the seventh,
and you know, there was full employment. About twenty five
thousand Palestinians came across the checkpoints every day. There was
a sense that we're over the hump. The Abraham Accords
were not quite fully implemented, but Trump was going going
(02:24):
to win the election, in which case it'll be better.
And all of a sudden October seventh happened. Can you
to tell the American people why it happened? We've gone
back in time with Pearl Harbor and with nine to eleven.
Why did October the seventh happen? And why weren't the
Israeli government prepared for that?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, the lead that it happened was that Camas wanted
to prevent normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia. And of
course then we talk about CAMAS. It's a terrorist group.
We don't know the inner workings, it's all opaque. But
this is basically a good I guess you could say,
assessment of what happened. They did not want to see
(03:03):
Israel normalize. There was, as you say, talk of the
Abraham Accords, President Trump's Abraham Accords expanding, expanding to Saudi Arabia,
expanding to a country called Oman. Maybe some other players
and Kamas saw this, and you have to understand, Kamas
never gave up his dream of genocide, of killing all
the Jews, of wiping Israel off the map. Iran never
(03:23):
gave up on that dream. They had a clock ticking
in downtown Tehran, ticking down to a date in twenty
forty when they said they were going to kill all
the Jews. Hesbila never gave up on the dream. And
Iran had built what they called the ring of fire
around Israel. It was Camas, and not just Kamas in Gaza,
but Hamas in Judea, Samaria. It was Hesbola up in Lebanon.
(03:45):
It was Bishar Assad in Syria. It was the Iraqi
militias in Iraq. She had militias in Iraq, and of
course it was Yemen where you have the who theis
and Iran itself. So they have this ring of fire.
They always said they were going to activate it at
some point to wipe Israel off the map. It does
appear that, yes, dinoir the head of the Mosque, jumped
the gun and he dragged the region into a war
(04:08):
before Iran would have wanted it. But that's really what happened.
You never really need much of a reason. Unfortunately, with
the Jahadists, I guess you can say that it's when
they're living in peace that you have to ask yourself
why that's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Why did October seventh militarily from the AMAS perspective, why
did it succeed? Why was the idea of unprepared?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's exactly what happened in nineteen seventy three. There was
a failure of a core assumption. The core assumption was
the Palestinians in Gaza are not going to go to
war because it would be an active national suicide. You
have to realize at that moment, as you indicated, seventeen
thousand Palestinians from Gaza were working in Israel each and
(04:50):
every day. Israel was supplying Gaza with sixty seven thousand
trucks filled with supplies. Israel supplied Gaza with five point
seven billion yallons of water, of its electricity, all of
its fuel by the way, as an asside, The New
York Times described it as a blockade, sometimes as the
Draconian blockade. They like making stuff up, But the Palestinians
(05:12):
and God, there was no blockade. It was the opposite.
They had effectively given them the benefits of peace. Prime
Minister in Nititaniev, who had even announced a few weeks
before that Gods and Palestinians could explore for offshore natural
gas in the Mediterranean off the coast of Gaza, where
there is thought to be natural gas, which would be,
of course a big source of wealth for the Palestinian people.
(05:34):
And no one dreamt that they would blow that up,
but they did, and they did because as the Kamas
leaders themselves said, they're not like you and me. They're
not like the West. They're not really concerned about bettering
the lives of their people. They're not concerned with raising
their kids. They just want to wipe Israel off the map.
They just want to come a genocide, they say'd user
apes and pigs, and that's more important to them. And
(05:56):
you can really say the same about Iran. The Iya
of Toola Homini back in the day once said the
revolution was not about the price of watermelons, and what
he met by that was if I were to ask
you what's the role of government, you'd say, well, the
role of government is to improve the lives of the citizenry.
And then you might say, without a trick question, isn't
that obvious over there? That's not the way the Islamists
(06:19):
look at it. They view the role of government as
trying to create this caliphate, hopefully in the capitol of Mecca,
and killing all the people they deem to be infidels,
and that's more important than anything else. And that is
why all their resources are directed towards war, towards Hesbola,
towards the hoothies. Even now, the Iranians can't keep the
(06:39):
lights on, they don't have water. I mean, certain basic
things we take for granted. You turn the faucet, water
comes out. They can't take that for granted in Iran.
And yet the Iranians are still sending billions and billions
of dollars. Took the Maas to Hespula, to the Hoovies,
because again, this is what's most important to them. That
could just make one final pull. When President Obama did
(07:02):
the Iran deal, it freed up over one hundred billion
dollars to the Iranians, and at the time, President Obama said, well,
they're going to spend that money on their kids, on
their country, on their economy. And it was ridiculous. They
took that money and they sent it to the who THEIF,
to hesblat Kama because that's their national priority, that's what's
most important to them, and it just showed a fundamental
(07:25):
misunderstanding of Iranian priorities. And again, as you said, thankfully
President Trump is in the White House and we finally
understand our enemies a little better than we did before.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's a culture of death. Some of US leaders want asked,
why do you build your facilities underground below hospitals and
orphanages and schools and apartment buildings. It's because the civilians
that are being killed to get at them are also
part of the Intifada against Israel. They want Palestinians and
gods and children to be killed by the Jew in
(07:58):
order to demonstrate to the UN and into the world
world that there's some sort of holocaust happening, some sort
of genosade happening, which is a bunch of bs. They
Hamas specifically wants men, women and children and gods it'll
be killed, and that's part of the Intifada, that's part
they're part of it. They want four year old girls
to have their legs blown off because that's what they want.
(08:20):
It's a culture of death, not a culture of life.
So why should anyone make peace with them?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right right now?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You know the talks are ongoing, it's going to be close.
The hostages are going to be released, allegedly. I'll believe
it when I see it. But why do business with
them at all? Because whether it's five thousand left or
five hundred left, they are committed to the destruction, the
murder of Jews and Westerners whoever they might be found.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Why accept their word for anything? We know what they want.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Well, they're not accepting their word. And that's what's different
about it this time. This time, we're not trusting the Palestinians.
The way the deal is set up, the first thing
that happens is the hostages go free. That's what we
all want to say. The second thing, though, is the
key point. Israel is going to stay in Gaza with
its soldiers in a perimeter surrounding Gaza so that they
(09:10):
can no longer flood it with weapons from Egypt from Sinai. Now,
when Kamala Harris was Vice president, she said, I will
not allow this. It was in a speech in July
of twenty twenty four, when she was already de presumed
a candidate for the Democrats. She said, I will not
allow this. I'm not going to let Israel have a
presence there. It'll shrink Gaza and that'll hurt the Palestinians. Well, well,
(09:31):
then if you're doing that, you're basically trusting Kamas to
not do what he has done before and has been
doing for decades, which is just rearmed for the next round.
This time it's going to be different, and President Trump
has made that absolutely clear. He is also said Camas
is not going to be in power when this is over.
Gaza is going to demilitarize. There will be some sort
(09:53):
of civilian government, but Hamasa and the PA, the Palestinian authority,
which isn't really much better, they're just not going to
be allowed to take a part in that. So we
can only hope that it's going to get a little
bit better because now Israel will be in charge of
security instead of trusting the Palestinians who've broken their word,
basically broken every treaty they've ever signed.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Professor Yurik Kaufman, can you address yourself to the issue
why is Israel so despised by Europe by the UN
by American college kids. If a poll was done about
do you support Palestinians or israel I think the poll
indicates two thirds of Americans wrongfully educated by the miseducation systems.
(10:34):
We have support Palestinians over Israelis, who simply won piece,
and Israel has few friends in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
The easiest way to understand this is to engage in
a thought experiment. So let's assume every fact of the
op Pobra seven attack happened exactly the way it did.
Total unprovoked attack. Twelve hundred people murdered, two hundred and
fifty ostages, women raped. One more fact you need to
know the Biden administration budgeted billions of dollars in aid
(11:07):
for Gaza, to whom they would characterize as the innocent civilians. Okay,
let's assume all that happened exactly the way it did.
Only let's assume the attackers were Germans of another era
or Ukrainians, in other words, are white supremacists. Let's assume
they were white people. Right, do you really think that
Biden would have budgeted billions of dollars to white people
(11:28):
who said Jews are apes and pigs. And now hold
the thought, let's change all the identities of the players.
Let's assume again same attack, and let's assume white supremacists
instead of Arab supremacists. But let's assume they murdered twelve
hundred black people and they raped black women. And now
a Republican administration said, let's give billions of dollars to
the innocent civilians, the innocent white supremacists who say that
(11:50):
Blacks are apes and pigs. There would have been rioting
in the streets, and rightly so. So what we have
here is this weird kind of dynamic. And then you
get into something called cognitive diss where when people have
deeply held beliefs and then facts appear the contradict the beliefs,
people change the facts, not the beliefs. And that's why
Barack Obama, right after the attack tweeted that we have
(12:10):
to say facts that there's unclean hands on both sides. Well,
why does he draw the moral equivalents? He said, because
of what he terms the unbearable occupation, Well, there was
no occupation. Israel was drawn from Gaza eighteen years before.
But he didn't like those facts, so he changed the
facts to fit the narrative, and just one final thought,
imagine for a moment again, a thought experiment. Every fact
(12:32):
happened exactly the way it did, and Iran was run
not by crazy ayahtolas who say jewser apes and pigs,
but by white supremacists who say Blacks are apes and pigs.
Do you really think he would have done in IRANVII?
Do you really think that Barack Obama would have agreed
that they get to keep the first generation centri if
you just continue their research, get over one hundred billion
(12:54):
dollars to spend on insurgents killing black people, that get
to make arms in five years, missiles in as they
enrich uranium in ten fifteen years later. From the beginning
of the agreement, it's sunsets. They get all the enriched
uranium back. The experts say the breakout period maybe a
few weeks, maybe a few months. The Iranians say they're
going to take that and drop a bomb on black people,
(13:16):
kill all the black people. Do you really think that
Obama would have done a deal? Of course not, But
it was with a regime run by what is turned
people of color, and the people they're fighting are a
white group of privileged, the Jews, and now suddenly it
all gets scrambled, and you can convince yourself cognitive dissonance
that well, maybe the Iranians really hate us because of
(13:38):
that coup in nineteen fifty three, which is of course ridiculous.
The Iatola's Bastak whup as well, just for the same
reason we did. They didn't want to see a communist
running Uran anymore than we did. I'm not defending the
coup itself. I'm just pointing out that's not why they
hate us. It's absurd, you know, And you start to
convince yourself, well, they'll take that one hundred billion dollars,
they'll spend it on their kids. They're gonna lie to
(13:59):
love us. They're people of color, they're fighting oppression, and
you get all this nonsense which has passed around his truth,
and not just in college campuses, but in mainstream media,
in the New York Times, in CNN, in the BBC
by Christian Amanport. But I have to say not by
Bill Cunningham. And that's why it's so important to listen
to your show.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I went there.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I went to Israel, you know, I worked in Jewish
law firms for a long time Katzman, Logan and Helper,
And for some reason, I feel a great affinity for
the Jewish people. What they've had to put up with
the Ring of Fire was something which has largely been
eliminated except for what's happening in certain parts of Iran,
in which they won't give up, They won't spend their
money to help their own people. They continue to have
(14:43):
the outside power about to take you over. It's been
used throughout history. The policies of the Iranian government is awful,
it's terrible, it makes no sense. However, it's not our problem.
It's the Jews causing the difficulties. It's the classic what
alf Hitler used against the Jews is not our policies
that have failed, is the Jews destroying us. And that
(15:03):
same idea is our policies have failed internally. We can't
look at ourselves as having failed. Got to blame someone
else for it. And that's always throughout history, the jew
for causing the problems. And all the Israeli wants to
do is live in peace. Israel is a multi dimensional
I've seen the gay pride flag flying in Jerusalem. I've
gone to Catholic masses in Jerusalem. I've seen twenty twenty
(15:26):
five percent of the Kanesse are Muslims. It is a
Western style democracy. The truth will set you free. But many,
as you say, I'm not going to change my opinion,
So I changed the facts. The Palestinians have been in
charge of the gods O for almost twenty years, and
that they freely elected Hamasta b their government. Knowing I
think what would happen in the long run, begging that
(15:47):
Iran will get the nuclear weapon quickly set it out
over Israel. All hell would break loose and then it's
a culture of death and then they'll go to heaven
with the seventy two virgins. And I wish the rest
of the world could see the reality of what Israel
faces and what they've overcome. They've called the desert to bloom.
It's a multi functional, multi dimensional Western democracy and it's working.
(16:11):
And I'm sure in the months ahead, when peace finally
comes and Benjamin not to, you know who's government's going
to be in trouble for not being prepared for what
happened on October the seventh. It's going to be a problem.
And I guess they're going to change governments, and I
pray the next government has his attitude when it comes
to defending our homeland. And the Professor Uri Kaufman book
(16:31):
is America into Intofada. We've not even touched the surface
of the of what's happening on college campus is how
they're infiltrated and paid for by ignorance. From the river
to the sea. They think it's the Mississippi and the Caribbean.
They have no idea it's Jordan. In other words, killed
the Jews the six million that remained. But Professor, today's
a big day. We'll see what happens down the road.
(16:52):
But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and
Ury Kaufman the Book is America and to Fada. Once again,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Professor Sir,
you're a great American. I think you have it right,
and I think I have it right.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I couldn't agree more, and thank you so much for
having me. It's always a privilege, privilege to speak to
you and a pleasure to be on the show.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
God bless America and God bless Israel. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I let's continue with more news coming up next at
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Bill Cunningham, the Great American October the seventh, twenty twenty
three is a date that will live an infamy for
those of the Jewish faith.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I think throughout the world as far.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
As the of the aggravation of what happened with the
Hamas has below all the Islamic extremists and what happened
on that date is incredible. And joining you and I
now as Urik Kaufman, author of American Intafada and Professor
Urik Kaufman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
much as we did during nine to eleven or maybe
(00:36):
Pearl Harbor, the world change for Israel on October the seventh,
twenty twenty three. Can you describe Israel, say, on October
the third or fourth of twenty twenty three, two or
three days before the attack by Hamas the status of
Israel at that point. Then we're going to compare it
to what Israel was today after October the seventh, and
what's happening today. But describe Israel, say a couple of
(00:59):
days before October the seventh.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You go back to let's say October the sixth, twenty
twenty three. Okay, Israel, I could say, was in its
golden age. Its economy was thriving. Its per capita income
was higher than Germany, Italy, Britain, France, Canada. Even it
seemed like it was in an extended period of peace.
It was only spending three and a half percent of
(01:22):
its GDP on defense, the lowest level in its history,
I think, even a bit lower than what we spent
here in America. It really looked like blue skies ahead,
and then just overnight the whole thing went upside down,
which kind of is what happened in nineteen seventy three.
It looked like everything was great, and then October the sixth,
nineteen seventy three, came along and everything got turned upside down.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Of course, I was there six months before that. I
sensed when I spoke to israelis I spent time in
the West Bank, spent time in Masada, spent time in
Palestinian held territories. It was safe, it was secure. We
were told there might be some rockets at the Hotel David.
If that's the case, we'll give you a warning, go
into the stairwell. None of that happened. The streets were
(02:04):
full of tourism. I was told that before October the seventh,
and you know, there was full employment. About twenty five
thousand Palestinians came across the checkpoints every day. There was
a sense that we're over the hump. The Abraham Accords
were not quite fully implemented, but Trump was going going
(02:24):
to win the election, in which case it'll be better.
And all of a sudden October seventh happened. Can you
to tell the American people why it happened? We've gone
back in time with Pearl Harbor and with nine to eleven.
Why did October the seventh happen? And why weren't the
Israeli government prepared for that?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, the lead that it happened was that Camas wanted
to prevent normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia. And of
course then we talk about CAMAS. It's a terrorist group.
We don't know the inner workings, it's all opaque. But
this is basically a good I guess you could say,
assessment of what happened. They did not want to see
(03:03):
Israel normalize. There was, as you say, talk of the
Abraham Accords, President Trump's Abraham Accords expanding, expanding to Saudi Arabia,
expanding to a country called Oman. Maybe some other players
and Kamas saw this, and you have to understand, Kamas
never gave up his dream of genocide, of killing all
the Jews, of wiping Israel off the map. Iran never
(03:23):
gave up on that dream. They had a clock ticking
in downtown Tehran, ticking down to a date in twenty
forty when they said they were going to kill all
the Jews. Hesbila never gave up on the dream. And
Iran had built what they called the ring of fire
around Israel. It was Camas, and not just Kamas in Gaza,
but Hamas in Judea, Samaria. It was Hesbola up in Lebanon.
(03:45):
It was Bishar Assad in Syria. It was the Iraqi
militias in Iraq. She had militias in Iraq, and of
course it was Yemen where you have the who theis
and Iran itself. So they have this ring of fire.
They always said they were going to activate it at
some point to wipe Israel off the map. It does
appear that, yes, dinoir the head of the Mosque, jumped
the gun and he dragged the region into a war
(04:08):
before Iran would have wanted it. But that's really what happened.
You never really need much of a reason. Unfortunately, with
the Jahadists, I guess you can say that it's when
they're living in peace that you have to ask yourself
why that's happening.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Why did October seventh militarily from the AMAS perspective, why
did it succeed? Why was the idea of unprepared?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
It's exactly what happened in nineteen seventy three. There was
a failure of a core assumption. The core assumption was
the Palestinians in Gaza are not going to go to
war because it would be an active national suicide. You
have to realize at that moment, as you indicated, seventeen
thousand Palestinians from Gaza were working in Israel each and
(04:50):
every day. Israel was supplying Gaza with sixty seven thousand
trucks filled with supplies. Israel supplied Gaza with five point
seven billion yallons of water, of its electricity, all of
its fuel by the way, as an asside, The New
York Times described it as a blockade, sometimes as the
Draconian blockade. They like making stuff up, But the Palestinians
(05:12):
and God, there was no blockade. It was the opposite.
They had effectively given them the benefits of peace. Prime
Minister in Nititaniev, who had even announced a few weeks
before that Gods and Palestinians could explore for offshore natural
gas in the Mediterranean off the coast of Gaza, where
there is thought to be natural gas, which would be,
of course a big source of wealth for the Palestinian people.
(05:34):
And no one dreamt that they would blow that up,
but they did, and they did because as the Kamas
leaders themselves said, they're not like you and me. They're
not like the West. They're not really concerned about bettering
the lives of their people. They're not concerned with raising
their kids. They just want to wipe Israel off the map.
They just want to come a genocide, they say'd user
apes and pigs, and that's more important to them. And
(05:56):
you can really say the same about Iran. The Iya
of Toola Homini back in the day once said the
revolution was not about the price of watermelons, and what
he met by that was if I were to ask
you what's the role of government, you'd say, well, the
role of government is to improve the lives of the citizenry.
And then you might say, without a trick question, isn't
that obvious over there? That's not the way the Islamists
(06:19):
look at it. They view the role of government as
trying to create this caliphate, hopefully in the capitol of Mecca,
and killing all the people they deem to be infidels,
and that's more important than anything else. And that is
why all their resources are directed towards war, towards Hesbola,
towards the hoothies. Even now, the Iranians can't keep the
(06:39):
lights on, they don't have water. I mean, certain basic
things we take for granted. You turn the faucet, water
comes out. They can't take that for granted in Iran.
And yet the Iranians are still sending billions and billions
of dollars. Took the Maas to Hespula, to the Hoovies,
because again, this is what's most important to them. That
could just make one final pull. When President Obama did
(07:02):
the Iran deal, it freed up over one hundred billion
dollars to the Iranians, and at the time, President Obama said, well,
they're going to spend that money on their kids, on
their country, on their economy. And it was ridiculous. They
took that money and they sent it to the who THEIF,
to hesblat Kama because that's their national priority, that's what's
most important to them, and it just showed a fundamental
(07:25):
misunderstanding of Iranian priorities. And again, as you said, thankfully
President Trump is in the White House and we finally
understand our enemies a little better than we did before.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's a culture of death. Some of US leaders want asked,
why do you build your facilities underground below hospitals and
orphanages and schools and apartment buildings. It's because the civilians
that are being killed to get at them are also
part of the Intifada against Israel. They want Palestinians and
gods and children to be killed by the Jew in
(07:58):
order to demonstrate to the UN and into the world
world that there's some sort of holocaust happening, some sort
of genosade happening, which is a bunch of bs. They
Hamas specifically wants men, women and children and gods it'll
be killed, and that's part of the Intifada, that's part
they're part of it. They want four year old girls
to have their legs blown off because that's what they want.
(08:20):
It's a culture of death, not a culture of life.
So why should anyone make peace with them?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Right right now?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
You know the talks are ongoing, it's going to be close.
The hostages are going to be released, allegedly. I'll believe
it when I see it. But why do business with
them at all? Because whether it's five thousand left or
five hundred left, they are committed to the destruction, the
murder of Jews and Westerners whoever they might be found.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Why accept their word for anything? We know what they want.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Well, they're not accepting their word. And that's what's different
about it this time. This time, we're not trusting the Palestinians.
The way the deal is set up, the first thing
that happens is the hostages go free. That's what we
all want to say. The second thing, though, is the
key point. Israel is going to stay in Gaza with
its soldiers in a perimeter surrounding Gaza so that they
(09:10):
can no longer flood it with weapons from Egypt from Sinai. Now,
when Kamala Harris was Vice president, she said, I will
not allow this. It was in a speech in July
of twenty twenty four, when she was already de presumed
a candidate for the Democrats. She said, I will not
allow this. I'm not going to let Israel have a
presence there. It'll shrink Gaza and that'll hurt the Palestinians. Well, well,
(09:31):
then if you're doing that, you're basically trusting Kamas to
not do what he has done before and has been
doing for decades, which is just rearmed for the next round.
This time it's going to be different, and President Trump
has made that absolutely clear. He is also said Camas
is not going to be in power when this is over.
Gaza is going to demilitarize. There will be some sort
(09:53):
of civilian government, but Hamasa and the PA, the Palestinian authority,
which isn't really much better, they're just not going to
be allowed to take a part in that. So we
can only hope that it's going to get a little
bit better because now Israel will be in charge of
security instead of trusting the Palestinians who've broken their word,
basically broken every treaty they've ever signed.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Professor Yurik Kaufman, can you address yourself to the issue
why is Israel so despised by Europe by the UN
by American college kids. If a poll was done about
do you support Palestinians or israel I think the poll
indicates two thirds of Americans wrongfully educated by the miseducation systems.
(10:34):
We have support Palestinians over Israelis, who simply won piece,
and Israel has few friends in the world.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
The easiest way to understand this is to engage in
a thought experiment. So let's assume every fact of the
op Pobra seven attack happened exactly the way it did.
Total unprovoked attack. Twelve hundred people murdered, two hundred and
fifty ostages, women raped. One more fact you need to
know the Biden administration budgeted billions of dollars in aid
(11:07):
for Gaza, to whom they would characterize as the innocent civilians. Okay,
let's assume all that happened exactly the way it did.
Only let's assume the attackers were Germans of another era
or Ukrainians, in other words, are white supremacists. Let's assume
they were white people. Right, do you really think that
Biden would have budgeted billions of dollars to white people
(11:28):
who said Jews are apes and pigs. And now hold
the thought, let's change all the identities of the players.
Let's assume again same attack, and let's assume white supremacists
instead of Arab supremacists. But let's assume they murdered twelve
hundred black people and they raped black women. And now
a Republican administration said, let's give billions of dollars to
the innocent civilians, the innocent white supremacists who say that
(11:50):
Blacks are apes and pigs. There would have been rioting
in the streets, and rightly so. So what we have
here is this weird kind of dynamic. And then you
get into something called cognitive diss where when people have
deeply held beliefs and then facts appear the contradict the beliefs,
people change the facts, not the beliefs. And that's why
Barack Obama, right after the attack tweeted that we have
(12:10):
to say facts that there's unclean hands on both sides. Well,
why does he draw the moral equivalents? He said, because
of what he terms the unbearable occupation, Well, there was
no occupation. Israel was drawn from Gaza eighteen years before.
But he didn't like those facts, so he changed the
facts to fit the narrative, and just one final thought,
imagine for a moment again, a thought experiment. Every fact
(12:32):
happened exactly the way it did, and Iran was run
not by crazy ayahtolas who say jewser apes and pigs,
but by white supremacists who say Blacks are apes and pigs.
Do you really think he would have done in IRANVII?
Do you really think that Barack Obama would have agreed
that they get to keep the first generation centri if
you just continue their research, get over one hundred billion
(12:54):
dollars to spend on insurgents killing black people, that get
to make arms in five years, missiles in as they
enrich uranium in ten fifteen years later. From the beginning
of the agreement, it's sunsets. They get all the enriched
uranium back. The experts say the breakout period maybe a
few weeks, maybe a few months. The Iranians say they're
going to take that and drop a bomb on black people,
(13:16):
kill all the black people. Do you really think that
Obama would have done a deal? Of course not, But
it was with a regime run by what is turned
people of color, and the people they're fighting are a
white group of privileged, the Jews, and now suddenly it
all gets scrambled, and you can convince yourself cognitive dissonance
that well, maybe the Iranians really hate us because of
(13:38):
that coup in nineteen fifty three, which is of course ridiculous.
The Iatola's Bastak whup as well, just for the same
reason we did. They didn't want to see a communist
running Uran anymore than we did. I'm not defending the
coup itself. I'm just pointing out that's not why they
hate us. It's absurd, you know, And you start to
convince yourself, well, they'll take that one hundred billion dollars,
they'll spend it on their kids. They're gonna lie to
(13:59):
love us. They're people of color, they're fighting oppression, and
you get all this nonsense which has passed around his truth,
and not just in college campuses, but in mainstream media,
in the New York Times, in CNN, in the BBC
by Christian Amanport. But I have to say not by
Bill Cunningham. And that's why it's so important to listen
to your show.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I went there.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I went to Israel, you know, I worked in Jewish
law firms for a long time Katzman, Logan and Helper,
And for some reason, I feel a great affinity for
the Jewish people. What they've had to put up with
the Ring of Fire was something which has largely been
eliminated except for what's happening in certain parts of Iran,
in which they won't give up, They won't spend their
money to help their own people. They continue to have
(14:43):
the outside power about to take you over. It's been
used throughout history. The policies of the Iranian government is awful,
it's terrible, it makes no sense. However, it's not our problem.
It's the Jews causing the difficulties. It's the classic what
alf Hitler used against the Jews is not our policies
that have failed, is the Jews destroying us. And that
(15:03):
same idea is our policies have failed internally. We can't
look at ourselves as having failed. Got to blame someone
else for it. And that's always throughout history, the jew
for causing the problems. And all the Israeli wants to
do is live in peace. Israel is a multi dimensional
I've seen the gay pride flag flying in Jerusalem. I've
gone to Catholic masses in Jerusalem. I've seen twenty twenty
(15:26):
five percent of the Kanesse are Muslims. It is a
Western style democracy. The truth will set you free. But many,
as you say, I'm not going to change my opinion,
So I changed the facts. The Palestinians have been in
charge of the gods O for almost twenty years, and
that they freely elected Hamasta b their government. Knowing I
think what would happen in the long run, begging that
(15:47):
Iran will get the nuclear weapon quickly set it out
over Israel. All hell would break loose and then it's
a culture of death and then they'll go to heaven
with the seventy two virgins. And I wish the rest
of the world could see the reality of what Israel
faces and what they've overcome. They've called the desert to bloom.
It's a multi functional, multi dimensional Western democracy and it's working.
(16:11):
And I'm sure in the months ahead, when peace finally
comes and Benjamin not to, you know who's government's going
to be in trouble for not being prepared for what
happened on October the seventh. It's going to be a problem.
And I guess they're going to change governments, and I
pray the next government has his attitude when it comes
to defending our homeland. And the Professor Uri Kaufman book
(16:31):
is America into Intofada. We've not even touched the surface
of the of what's happening on college campus is how
they're infiltrated and paid for by ignorance. From the river
to the sea. They think it's the Mississippi and the Caribbean.
They have no idea it's Jordan. In other words, killed
the Jews the six million that remained. But Professor, today's
a big day. We'll see what happens down the road.
(16:52):
But thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and
Ury Kaufman the Book is America and to Fada. Once again,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Professor Sir,
you're a great American. I think you have it right,
and I think I have it right.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I couldn't agree more, and thank you so much for
having me. It's always a privilege, privilege to speak to
you and a pleasure to be on the show.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
God bless America and God bless Israel. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I let's continue with more news coming up next at
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