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October 9, 2025 • 90 mins
Willie talks with Commonwealth Attorney Rob Sanders about closing loopholes for murders in the Kentucky justice system. Also Sean Hannity breaks down the Israel-Hamas peace deal. Finally Joseph Vasquez explains why the Republican should not cave to refund Obamacare.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Billy Cunningham, the Great America, Welcome this Thursday afternoon to
the tri State. Of course, later on Sunday, we're going
to talk between now and then with Lance McAllister about
Joe Flacco, not Joe Burrow, but Joe Flacco starting for
the Bengals, and he has an extra three hours in
Green Bay the games at four to twenty five, so
he's studying up quickly. How bad you have to be
if you're Jake the Snake, that you're going to lose

(00:27):
your position to a guy that doesn't know the playbook
and it's two hundred and fifty miles away. But nonetheless,
hopefully Joe Flacco is a quick learner. He's already beat
the Packers once this year as a quarterback for the
Cleveland Browns, So we'll see what happens there with joining
you and I now is the great Rob Sanders of
Kenton County and Rob, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham
showed Rob, how are you, Willie.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm doing fantastic. It's a beautiful day and I'm happy
to be back on your show. Although you've been promising
me intro music here for a while, we're gonna have
to work on that. You know, I'm kind of jealous
that Joe Dieters had his own intro music back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Vanilla Vanilla eyes. That's what you want, right, you want.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
To we can work it out. I know you and
I go way back with Vanilla ice, so that that
might be appropriate. But you know, we'll work something out.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
On a serious matter, I read an article out of
several newspapers about this that this killer who was released
by the Kentucky Parole Board. And I read some of
the ins and outs of this thing. This is unbelievable stuff.
But the headline essentially says that the parole Board is acted,
shall we say, in a way that released a child murderer.

(01:33):
Kentucky Parole Board threatened after a man who killed child
release from prison. Explain this one to.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Me, Willie.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
This case goes back all the way to Jeez, I
guess it's twenty fifteen. There was a guy named Ronald
Exantis who was from Indiana, and for reasons nobody can
quite figure out, he traveled to Woodford County, Kentucky, which
is down just outside of Lexington, Kentucky, and he entered
an unlocked residence where he attacked the family inside and

(02:02):
tragically stabbed to death a young boy in the house who.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Was only six years old.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Also stabbed that boy's sister stabbed that boy's father. Fortunately,
they did not die. In fact, they weren't seriously injured
from those stab wounds. Nevertheless, Xantis was arrested indicted for
murder and burglary and assault in that case. Because of
all the publicity, was moved from Woodford County to Fayett County,

(02:28):
which is Lexington, Kentucky, which is important to note is
probably the most liberal county in all of Kentucky. I
would say it's probably even more liberal than Jefferson County,
which is where Louisville is. Nevertheless, if I was a
prosecutor on a murder case, much less a death penalty case,
the last place I would want that trial to be
held is Fayatt County, Kentucky. But that's nevertheless where it
got moved to, and that jury where there's still plenty

(02:52):
of liberal voters, which means liberal jurors in the jury
pulled down in Fayett County somehow found him guilty of
assaulting the daughter and assaulting the father, but not guilty
by reason of insanity of the murder of the six
year old boy and of the burglary, and that verdict
is entirely inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
The prosecutor in Fayet County at the time was the
late Great Ray Larson, who was the godfather of Kentucky
prosecutor's very good friend and mentor of mine, who unfortunately
is no longer with us. But nevertheless, back in the day,
ray Larson was just an observer. It wasn't his case
because the prosecutor from Woodford County, who was no longer
in office, came over to Fayett to try the case

(03:34):
when the trial got moved. But Ray Larson noted that
the jury really poop pooed in their shoes, And I'm
sure he wanted to use a different explanation for the
word pooh poo, but it was one of the greatest
quotes I've heard by a prosecutor when describing a crazy
jury verdict. There's just no way on earth that somebody
can be insane for a murder, but not insane for
an assault that happened at the very same time. Under

(03:56):
Kentucky law at the time, assault second degree is a
non violent offense, so that's how crazy our law was
at the time, Willy, that you could stab someone with
a knife and it be a non violent offense in Kentucky.
And that's significant for a couple of different reasons. Number One,
it only carries twenty percent parole eligibility, which this guy
was sentenced to fifteen years, so he could have been

(04:16):
out in as little as three years because of that
twenty percent parole eligibility.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
But they also get all kinds.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Of good time in under Kentucky law for nonviolent offenses.
That's problem we're still dealing with the day. So you
serve out a non violent offense and just under fifty
percent of the service or just under fifty percent of
the sentence by the time you factor in all of
the good time credits added to somebody's k or shaved
off the back end of somebody's sentence in each one

(04:43):
of these non violent cases. Now, the good news is
in the meantime back up. About two years ago, the
legislature passed House Bill five, which I'm proud to say
I was a major part of negotiating the language for
House Bill five. But probably the most important thing that
House Bill five did, out of all the criminal justice
reforms or fixes it. That it undertook was redefining what

(05:06):
qualifies as a violent offense, Willie, and we did this
novel thing under the law where if a crime causes
a death or a serious physical injury, we made it
a violent offense. I know that's novel, it's something totally
unheard of. But you could have back before this House
Bill five two years just two years ago, Willie, before that,

(05:28):
you could be guilty of attempted murder and be a
non violent offense. Manslaughter non violent offense, reckless homicide.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Non violent. And you know, you and I know have
talked a number of times in.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Years past when we were trying to get House Bill
five passed about all the craziness that was going on
with non violent offenses. Well, it wasn't just calling it
violent versus non violent. It was all the good time
credits and the parole eligibility was so remarkably lower for
non violent offenses that it was extremely important that we
fix that definition, and thank god we did so. I

(05:58):
can say that this case like Ronald Xantis would never
happen for a crime that's committed today, But unfortunately, we
still have people that are incarcerated for horribly violent offenses
like the one that mister Xantis was incarcerated for, that
are still getting the benefit of that good time that
we're still getting the benefit of that low parole eligibility

(06:19):
that were in effect back when they committed this. Now,
the other important thing about this Exantus case for people
to know is it wasn't the Kentucky Parole Board. Kentucky
Parole Board is one of the few things under state
government that I can say works well regardless of who
the governor is. The governor gets to appoint the members
of the Parole Board. But in my experience, regardless of

(06:40):
whether we've had a Republican governor Democrat, governor of the
Parole board's always done a very good job. There are
very few examples where I would criticize the Parole Board
for decisions that they've made. In this case, Xantis was
up for parole a number of different times, and he
was always voted down, in other words, returned to prison
by the Parole Board every time they got a vote.

(07:00):
But in twenty twelve, the Kentucky legislature, not the Parole Board,
but the legislature, passed a law called mandatory release supervision,
which means once you get to six months till the
end of your sentence, you're automatically kicked out of prison,
and you were in effect paroleed. But it's not parolled
because the parole board voted for you. It's paroled that

(07:21):
the legislator legislature granted to every inmate, effectively shortening their
prison sentence by six months, regardless of the crime that
they committed, regardless of their conduct while they were incarcerated
in behind bars. They could have broken all the rules,
fought with people, disrupted the prison, not taken any classes
or improvements or anything done anything, not even made license plates.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Willie.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
If they were in prison and they were six months
till the day that their sentence was up, they were
kicked out, and that was by a vote of the legislature.
So it's important for everybody that reads the story. It's
been all over the internet, social media, and everybody's been
firing away at the Kentucky Parole Board.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Their members have been docked, they've had their lives.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Threatned, death threats to them and their family, and it
really wasn't their faults.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
They had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
They did their job and kept this exemptest guy, the
child killer, in.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Prison as long as they could.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
It was the legislature of the past mandatory release supervision, which,
by the way, Willie, is still on the books. It
just doesn't apply to as many people. Fortunately, it doesn't
apply to all the people that are now violent offenders
thanks to House Bill five, but it still applies to
the old ones. So we're still going to be dealing
with it for old nonviolent violent offenses. But fortunately those

(08:38):
numbers are limited, but we're still dealing with it. Somebody
could go out and steal tens of thousands or hundreds
of thousands or millions of dollars in death cases, none
of them are violent in Kentucky. So those kinds of people,
you know, the embezzlers and things like that, they're still
getting that mandatory or release supervision. So if there's anything
good that comes out of this, I hope it's that
people can convince their legislatures to make the inmates serve

(08:59):
their sentence that they were given by the judge of
the jury or both, and make them serve their sentence.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Let's get rid of mandatory release supervision.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Well, you know, jury's are the best system we have
ever had, ever will have. But they're imperfect. You cannot
find someone not guilty by reason of insanity in killing
a six year old boy, Logan Tipton ten years ago.
He's not guilty by reason of sand And then a
few minutes later he uses the same knife to assault

(09:27):
his sister, but found find guilty of the assault of
the sister. But he became all of a sudden insane
having killed Logan Tipton. I guess that's the verdict is
within a few seconds he went from sanity to insanity,
or from insanity to sanity. And so a jury system
is great, but they screw up every now and then.
This is an example. Where's Ronald Exantis now?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is he walking around Kentucky somewhere with a knife in
his hand?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Fortunately he's not in Kentucky will he? According to published reports,
he has been located in Florida because for six months
he still has to register his addressed with the Probation
and Parole Office, and he got his parole transferred to Florida.
So he's Florida's problem. Given the kind of news that
we hear out of Florida, I wouldn't be shocked if
we hear about him in the next six months, but no,
he's not in Kentucky. But that nevertheless, he shouldn't be anywhere.

(10:14):
We should have kept him locked up as long as possible.
And frankly, Willy, I know you practice law at least
back in the day, if not still on the side,
I'm not sure, but I know you're familiar with criminal
law and criminal trials, and it is very very rare
that juries find anybody not guilty by reason of insanity. Usually,
if anything, they find him guilty but mentally ill, which

(10:35):
gets some mental health treatment while they're incarcerated, but they
still serve the sentence just the same as anybody that
gets convicted of the same crime. I've had defendants be
guilty but mentally ill before, I've never had somebody be
not guilty by reason of insanity.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Knock on wood.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
We got some pending right now that are going for that.
But again, I'll be shocked if that's the verdict, because
these crimes are just so heinous and so offensive, and
it's obvious that these defendants committed to crimes. There's no
question of who done it. It's just a duel between
expert hired expert witnesses. Some people might call them. Now

(11:13):
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say whores on
the radio. You might have to believe hire whores, expert, witness,
whatever you want to call him. Battle of the paid
experts say, one will say he's insane, the other one
will say, no, he's not. Ultimately, it's on the jury
to decide whether we want this person to get mental
health treatment while they're incarcerated or if we're just going

(11:33):
to turn them loose on the street. And juries are
very hesitant to turn them loose on the streets. So
this exemptest thing is, thank god, a very rare type
of situation. But again it's one that I would never
want to try my case in Fayett County if I
could avoid it. I'd rather come try in Hamilton County
than Fayett County. Will it, but any place but there
that would be of the one hundred and twenty counties

(11:54):
in Kentucky, that would be number one twenty on my
list of places that I would prefer to try a
death penalty case.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Hopefully mister Xander's is not walking around Naples, Florida. If
I see some of them and get his picture, have
posted certain places if you see this guy, leave them alone.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Secondly, this story also is interesting to Tony Bender and
others because the father of the dead Logan Tipton, who
would be I guess about sixteen years old today, has
put out a fatwah on Ronald Xantis. How much trouble
could the father be in if he actually goes to
Florida and kills this guy who killed his son now

(12:29):
you're talking in Florida, might not be in much trouble.
But nonetheless that's not good.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
No, it's not good WILLI And that's why that we
have important criminal and that's why we have good criminal laws.
It's important that they are enforced and enforced well and
that justice has had for crime victims, because when you don't,
when you have travesties like this, when that's what motivates families,
especially parents, to go out and take the law into
their own hands and start seeking vigilante justice, and it

(12:57):
really puts you in Technically, would still be murder if
he goes out and intentionally kills this exantest guy. Even
if that exantus guy killed his child, it's still technically murdered.
But we don't want that. We want to be in
a civilized society where victims can count on the criminal
justice system to deliver at least some semblance.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
You know, it's never a fair trade.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's never a fair trade to give up your loved one,
no matter how long the prison sentences, or even if
it's a death penalty, because those never happened fast, and
they never happen with the same cruelty and violence that
took the loved one in the first place. So it's
never a fair trade. But there's got to be enough
justice in that prison sentence that no father is tempted
to drive down to Florida and execute the man that

(13:37):
killed his child. I can certainly understand that. I tell
people all the time that if anything like that ever
happened my daughter, we wouldn't need police, we wouldn't need prosecutors,
we wouldn't need juries, you know, we would take care
of it the old fashioned way. But that, you know,
is speaking from somebody that.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Knows that that's not right.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
But he's seen hundreds, if not thousands, of parents go
through the hell that is trying to live after the
death of your own job. And I don't wish that
on my worst enemy, And I feel for that family
of the victim of mister Xantis.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, the father would then be, in my view, not
guilty by reason of temporary and sanity. Anyway, he'd be free.
But that's a different issue. But I'm reading the Herald
Leaders story. The story says a state law required Xander's
release despite the par board voting against his release. So
the loophole in this law has been corrected, is that
what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, the loophole in that the law applying to the
law is still there. It still applies to non violent offenders,
but a false second degree which mister Xantis was convicted of,
is no longer a non violent offense. So this individual type,
this individual case, it would never happen again because the
offense would now be violent. So he wouldn't get the

(14:50):
benefit of that early release. He would have to serve
eighty five percent of his sentence before he would even
be considered for early release, which would be ahlfle lot
more than the seven year years or so that he
served of his fifteen year sentence before he served.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Down And he's done, and he's just.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Kicked out of prison six months before he's even served
the entire sentence. But it's like you're eligible and twenty percent,
you serve out in fifty percent. And to make it worse,
they are kicking people out six months before the fifty
percents even calculated. But that still happens, Willy, in non
violent offenses. And you know, it'll never happen in a

(15:25):
death case. It will never happen in a stabbing case.
But you know, we've had cases I've prosecuted here in
Kenton County over the years where hundreds of thousands of
taxpayer dollars have been stolen by you know, dirty bookkeepers
and treasures and things like that, stolen from the government,
stolen from businesses, you name it.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
People.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
There's still plenty of really offensive crimes that still qualify
as a non violent offense. So even if you're not
shooting someone or stabbing someone, and there are still offenses,
repeat defenders, people that don't learn their lesson, repeat burglars.
You know, somebody could break into my house with the
gun hoping to go in and murder me, but I
wasn't home and they got caught and they had a gun,

(16:05):
so it's first degree burglar. It's a class B felony.
Willie but if I wasn't home when it happened, that's
a non violent offense. So if you go to a
prison in Kentucky on a twenty year sentence for a
non violent offense, you will serve out the sentence in
less than ten years. And when you get within the
end of that less than ten year sentence that a
twenty year sentence really is mandatory release, supervision will still

(16:28):
kick you out of prison six months early.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
So the problem is still there.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's just not going to be as widespread because it
doesn't there enough cases where we've changed two years ago,
change the definition of violent offense.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, I'm going to have Tony Bender in Boone County
if he wants to commeit a violent slash non violent offense,
I'm going to have him consult with you first to
see how get around having a violent offense become a
non violent defense because it appears ten years ago using
a knife to cut a girl is non violent. However,
breaking into a home with a gun when someone's not
present is violent or not violent, but if they're there,

(17:01):
then it's violent. So before tell you Benner coach much
a serious felony, him, talk to you first. Okay, yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Know, my first piece of advice is going to it
in Kenton County. But then you know, I've got a
good friend in Boone County name Lewis Kelly, who's find
Commonweal attorney out there too, So you probably don't want
to do it in Boone County. But yeah, it's enough
to make your head spin, Willis. But the good news
is part of the spinning is the changing the law,
and it's been changing for the better.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
So it's frustrating it is.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
The legislature passed this back in twenty twelve, the mandatory
release supervision. You know, we've had a lot of turnover
and we've had a lot of changes, especially in the
last couple of years in terms of forward thinking Republicans
who are getting back to being good law and order conservatives.
And I'm happy to say that everybody in the Northern
Kentucky Legislative Caucus voted for House Bill five, which fixed

(17:50):
the definition of non violent offender. But it still hasn't
fixed that mandatory release supervision, so we still got a
little more work to do. Hopefully they'll take care of
it this year. I know I already got some call
from some local state representatives interested in fixing it.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Hopefully that will happen come January.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
No, we gotta go. But Kentucky pearl Board was very
smart to get Ronald mcxanner's out of the state and
get him into some other state. Let them deal with
them instead of Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
I wanted to in Florida. They got plenty of it.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
They had some crazy people in Florida's just not in Naples.
So if Exanas is in Naples, I'm gonna let the sheriff, guy,
guy named Barnes, let him know and call your county.
We got it crazy. I'm going to give his picture
to the sheriff, let him send it around. If that
guy's in call your county. He's going to be followed.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
But Naples is a high rent district for crazy Willy,
so he's probably in central Florida somewhere.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
I hope, I hope.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
All right.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Once again, Rob Sanders, great work and thanks for coming
on The Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Thank you, Thanks Willie. Have a great one.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Who Day, God Bless America?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Who Day?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Joe Flacco is? Who Day? On seven hundred WLW, I
had the music Dave Caton hit the Music's set up
the rest of today's Big Show. It's good to hear
that Rob Sanders in Kentucky's trying to take care of
loopholes in the Kentucky parole statute that seemingly a person
in one rage in a home can kill a six

(19:11):
year old boy with a knife, be found not guilty
by reason of insanity, and then a couple of minutes
later go into another bedroom and stab a four year
old girl with the same knife and be found guilty
of simple assault, which Kentucky law said was not violent,
but then be found not guilty of the murder. And

(19:32):
so after ten years, this murderer is released. And thank
god Kentucky the parole board sent this murderer to Florida
in order to live out his life there. So we'll
see what happens down the road. After one o'clock today,
I'm going to put a call in a Sean Hannity
who last night we're texting back and forth, and he

(19:54):
had on the President to discuss the Gaza peace plan,
and which was wonderful. And then I switch over quickly
to MSNBC to see what they're talking about. You can
guess it's the Jeffrey Epstein files and whether or not
Donald Trump twenty years ago had a photo taken with
a half naked woman. Twenty years ago. In and around
Jeffrey Epstein, CNN was talking about Governor Pritzer of Illinois

(20:19):
whether the outrageous comments of Donald Trump would be well
received in Chicago, all of which are interesting stories of
not when it compares to peace in the Middle East,
gossip peace deal framework one cease fire and IDF bullback,
and the next hour or so the Israeli Cabinet's going
to approve the deal, then the shelling will stop. A

(20:41):
Moss releases all living hostages roughly twenty. That might be
Monday or Tuesday. They have forty eight hours after the
acceptance by the Israeli government, which I think is going
to be later today or tomorrow. They're about eight hours
ahead of us, so it's almost Friday morning there, so
Monday or Tuesday, according to the President, all living hostages
roughly twenty will be released. Then simultaneously after they are released,

(21:05):
that Israel will cause Palestinian prisoners plus hundreds of detenees
by d have to be released. That number is two thousand,
so I guess two thousand Palestinians are worth about twenty
Israelis roughly, you know, unbelievable, unbelievable, it's about fifty to one.
But nonetheless, then border crossings will open, aid will pour

(21:29):
into Gaza, and then Hamas returns the bodies of deceased
hostages if they can be located. Hamas has told their
friends and Cutter that some of these bodies are so
disintegrated that they can't find them, but just return all
the ones that you can. So the key is be
whether or not the twenty living hostages walk out of

(21:50):
the holes in Gaza with the rats Hamas put them,
which would be fabulous. That's on the phase two in
the next several months, which is rebuilding Gaza, disarming Hamas,
a permanent ceasefire signed in Cairo. International Security Force mainly
other air of Muslim countries like Turkey will send the

(22:11):
force and Palestinian's statehood and then we'll see what happens.
What I can't say that peace in the Middle East
has not happened for one day of my lifetime, not
one day. And now if Donald Trump can pull this off,
he's the only one that could have got it done.
His relationship with Benjamin Netanyaho, also known as Bibi is strong.

(22:33):
He told him what he had to do. At the
same time, he's telling the Gulf States what they have
to do. Iran, believe it or not, got involved and
is telling Hamas, no more bombs and weapons from us,
You're on your own. Israel's taking out hesbloo in the north,
Islamic Jihad in Syria and in the northeast. Iran in

(22:54):
the east and the only thing left for their hooties
they get bombed in a regular basis in Yemen. So
the ring of fire around Israel has been put out
and at this point peace seems to be breaking out
in the Middle East. If Donald Trump could pull this off,
ask yourself, what if Kamala Harris, with all of her

(23:15):
wine drinking and the dropping of the F bomb was
in the White House with Tim Waltz. Can you imagine
any of this going on? Absolutely not, or the southern
border the way it is once again, last month, have
the numbers from September. There were no illegal crossings on
the southern border, zero zilch, not a nun. The Reformation,
the reform has begun with Donald Trump and the Republicans

(23:37):
in charge and is great to watch. So after one
o'clock today will be Sean Hannity talk about the Middle
East and also his interview with President Trump last night.
And after two o'clock today will be Joseph Vacquez. He's
a hospitalization medical expert with NewsBusters dot org. As to
why Obamacare has failed causing the current crisis, how about

(24:00):
this headline. Washington Post editorial board now says Obamacare was
never actually affordable? Oh really, and the Affordable Care Act
has become unaffordable according to the Washington Post. According to
the story in the Washington Post yesterday, quote, the real
problem is that the Affordable Care Act quote Obamacare was

(24:24):
never actually affordable unquote. Remember the promises like your doctor,
keep your doctor, like your plan, keep your plan. Guess
what premiums are going to go down by an average
of fifteen hundred dollars a year. Did any of that happen?
Of course not. Of course, when you get government involved
through complicated exchanges, a course, what's going to happen is

(24:45):
care is going to be ration and the cost is
going to go up. After fifteen years, care is rationed,
and guess what the cost is going up? I look
at this big story now in the Cincinnati Inquirre. Cincinnati
hospitals are cutting cars. How patients and employees are affected.
Why Because Obamacare has failed. Quote from the story. Squeezed

(25:07):
by federal policy changes, local hospitals and service providers are
shutting down services and laying off employees this day afloat.
This means that patients and employees are on the hook
for the rising cost of care and miss shrinking services.
Hundreds of jobs are being cut in hospitals. Good doctors
are quitting early because of low reimbursement. The exchanges are failing,

(25:29):
and the premium expenses of skyrocketing. And one thing comes
into play, which you and I know, is that entitlement programs.
If you get an entitlement program that is rooted in
the system, and Americans rely for years upon an entitlement
program which is half expenses for your actual medical premiums
every month, that once you habituate Americans to some generous

(25:53):
government handout, of course, to someone else's expense, they grow
dependent on it and it becomes pulled out perilous, if
not impossible to call it back. Once you tell an
American or a family for fifteen years, we're going to
pay half your premium, and when it becomes impossible monetarily
to keep doing that because it has failed, with hospitals closing,

(26:16):
doctors quitting because reimbursement's rates are so low, the best
in the bride is now not going into medicine. Because
that is happening. Those benefiting from the Obamacare system want
to keep it even though it's hurting them because they
rely upon it. And this is how liberalism works. And
install a government entitlement, well, publicize its existence, get as

(26:40):
many millions of Americans as possible, signed up, then blame
Republicans when someone tries to limit in any way that
entitlement program. And I'm watching it in real time right now.
The Democrats believe that if they stick with this thing,
with support for the premiums every month due to a
spire in January of next year, that ultimately, sometime soon

(27:04):
the insurance companies are going to send out notices that
your premium is going up fifty and as a consequence
for that, guess what, they're going to put pressure on
Republicans to collapse and keep the atonement in place. And
so all I can say is that chickens are coming
home to Roost. So we have a guest on that

(27:26):
after two o'clock today. But before we go any further,
you may know tonight it's a great debate between Corey
Bowman and the have to have Purival headline in the
inquiry Council candidates, including Republicans, reject using troops to fight crime.
I ask a question the Scott Wartonman ahead of time
he wrote the story, it's a fine story. How come

(27:49):
we got to the point and the commission of crime
in the city of Cincinnati where soldiers must be employed
to stop crime being committed due to the failure years
of the Democratic Party in the city of Cincinnati. So
if no one is asking for the National Guard to
come to Cincinnati, can we ask the question why is
it required in the first place? Why are the policies

(28:12):
of the Democratic Party liberals failed so miserably in the
city of Cincinnati that the debate must be held whether
or not to bring soldiers to Cincinnati to restore order
when that's the job of city council in the first place.
As Steve Gooden, running for council said about three weeks ago,
we spend tens of millions of dollars on social welfare

(28:32):
spending programs to encourage especially teenagers, not to commit crime,
tens of millions of dollars. Well, we don't need that.
The government program is Number one, Fully staff the police
department and tell them to enforce the law. Number two,
you have to have prosecutors to prosecute. Number three, you

(28:54):
need judges. This sentence, there's the government program right there.
You don't have to pay armed robbers one thousand dollars
a month to quit committing arm robberies. You need about
two hundred more police officers. Then you need prosecutors to prosecute,
and then you need judges to sentence law breakers to prison.
The message will go out. You know what, there's a

(29:15):
new sheriff in town, and we can't commit crime anymore.
So instead of asking the question do we need soldiers
in Cincinnati, the question should be why have the policies
of liberal progressive Democrats in twenty twenty five failed so
miserably we have to argue and debate whether to bring
soldiers to Cincinnati to do the job that should be

(29:35):
done by city council. How about asking that question, and
the same question can be asking basically every major American city,
why have Democrats so poorly run the cities in this
great country, to run them into the ground that were
the envy of the world. And now we have to
bring soldiers to Chicago and Portland, New York, Los Angeles, Washington,

(29:56):
and Cincinnati got to bring soldiers in because the Democratic Party,
the current ideation of the Democrat Party, has failed miserably
by not enforcing the law in their community. Now there's
a question for the night's debate. Why have you failed
after a parival in job one, two and three, which
is security and safety in the city of Cincinnati. And

(30:16):
why is it necessary to bring in the soldiers because
you have failed. Now, let's continue with the more. After
one o'clock today, Sean Hannity will be here about the
Middle East and also talking about his interview last night
with President Trump. And after two o'clock today will be
an expert on Obamacare. The Washington Post now says Obamacare

(30:38):
quote was never actually affordable the fifteen years later, let's
continue with more. Twelve fifty six, Home of your Reds
and Bengals, and you see and God blessed Tony Pike,
Bill Cunningham with you every day your home, the Reds Bengals,
bear cuts and Moore News Radio seven hundred WW. I
enter it now, Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course,

(31:05):
last time I monitorled the media. Simultaneously, I'm watching Sean
Hannity on Fox News heaving on President Donald Trump explained
the deal, which is fabulous deal, which one it's implemented
it and many think now will be will be a
game changer for generations to come. Then I'm watching MSNBC
so you don't have to, and they're talking about the
Epstein files. Maybe there's a photo of Donald Trump twenty

(31:28):
five years ago with a half naked woman. I'm watching CNN.
They have on the Governor Pritzer calling the President names.
In the meantime, Sean Hannity is interviewing the President about
peace in our times. Joan, you and I now is
the great Sean Hannity and Sean Hannity, Welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And Sean, how are you?

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Bill Cunningham, Great American? God bless you, God bless America.
I'm here to deliver a full report. You had a
guy called my radio show the other day and he
mentioned you and I go Sean Hannity, are a great American.
God bless you, God bless America. I want to vote
report and I'm like, oh, Willie, he knows exactly. You're

(32:07):
the only guy left in radio that gets a twenty
share on one radio station. It's unheard of, never mind
the hundreds and hundreds of stations that you heard on
around the country. You are a dear friend, God bless you.
And it was a great honor. You know, Bill Cunningham,
my entire life, I didn't think we'd get a deal

(32:29):
like this done. It doesn't mean it's it doesn't mean
it's completely over. These hostages that you know, have been
held in captivity two years and two days. We expect
they're going to be freed on Monday. How did this happen?
What changed here?

Speaker 3 (32:45):
If you look.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Over the history of all these conflicts to go on,
you know, decade after decade after decade, actually century after century,
but since the UN Partition Plan in nineteen forty eight,
you know, there's never been peace from the day Israel
got their homeland.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
And one of the major.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
Reasons is is that countries Arab countries that surround Israel
have been sworn enemies of Israel. And it took Donald J. Trump,
blessed are the peacemakers to bring together a coalition of
a lot of Arab countries. I went with the President,
I think, you know when he went to Saudi Arabia
and Qatar and the UAE and I was in Abu Dhabi,

(33:28):
if you can believe it, but I was there. I saw,
I witnessed the relationships that the President was building with
the Ghulst states, and now finally he has convinced them
that it is in everybody's best interest in the Middle
East to get along. Now, the President there's been no
greater friend to Israel, which enabled him to persuade it

(33:52):
BIB to give in on a lot of concessions that
I don't think otherwise BB Netanyahu would have given it on.
But also give BB the security guarantees, and that would
include the disarming of Hamas in the south in Gaza.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
So that's a big part of it.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
But I'm going to tell you what the biggest piece
of the puzzle is is that Donald Trump instills fear
in the entire world, especially this region. Donald, you know,
I don't know why some of our conservative brethren have
a false narrative, notion or belief about what the Trump

(34:29):
doctrine is. If they do, let me explain it to them. Yes,
I agree with the President. We can't, can't, can no
longer get involved in quagmires and forever wars.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I totally agree.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
We don't want our young kids going door to door
ever again in Baghdad, jumping over IEDs without up armored humbes.
That's insane. And military technology is shifting how future wars
are going to be fought anyway. I believe they'll be
fought in their conditioned offices, not on the battlefields, to
be honest with you. And so, what Donald Trump was

(35:02):
able to do in his first term. He knocked out
the Califate that was allowed to grow under Obama and Biden.
He knocked out Sola money on that tarmac, got Daddy and.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Associates, he took out.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
He dropped the mother of all bombs on Afghanistan. You know,
just because you don't want a forever war doesn't mean
you don't know the need and the proper use of
military might, or the military might of the United States.
And then the President gave Iran, the number one state

(35:36):
sponsor a terror fifty days to get a deal done
and on day fifty one, Israel went in because they
were literally I've look, I've spoken to every source I have.
They were within a month, two months, three months, they're
gonna have nuclear weapons. Bill Cunningham, that is a disaster
for the world, because I believe with their radicalism, they'd

(35:57):
use them. So and then Donald Trump came in and
did what he said he was going to do. He
took out the nucleosites. What does that do? That showed
the world that he means what he says, that he's
not afraid to use military force. He prefers peace. Then
he followed this up with the meeting with Biebe at

(36:20):
the White House and he said, we'll do it the
easy way, or we'll do it the hard way. And
bib said, we'll do it the easy way, or we
will finish the job. That was the choice that.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Hamas had here.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Remember Hamas in their charter calls for the destruction of Israel,
YEP and so, and then the president they were they
first rejected it, and then the President said, okay, we
will obliterate you, and they immediately came back. That's the
backstory that a lot of people don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
And Sean Hannay, will one thing you pointed out last
night and continue to point out, there's no American political
character that could have just same hand talk to tell
Iran directly and indirectly what's gonna happen. The Golf States,
all of a sudden, which we're funding and housing, Hamas
leaders are telling him, Moss, you got to do this.
You have Iran saying do this. You have Hesbla obliterated.

(37:15):
You have Syria, which was the side of some more
evil eliminated on the world stage. All that's left standing
is a moss and they have eighty percent of their
warriors like rats in the and the holes are killed.
And now they're told if if you don't do this deal,
we're gonna they are surrounded. So there's one political character
in the world position to do it, and it was

(37:35):
Donald John Trump. He could talk to everyone. And according
to britt Yume, your friend of mine, great guy, he said,
the real key was when Obama, I'm sorry, Well, when
Donald Trump looked in the eyes of BBI and said,
you've got to do this deal. He's the only one
that could have got BB. The Golf States, Iran Hamas leadership,

(37:56):
and now IDF ready to go. He's the only one
that could have done it, and he got it done.
Can you imagine if Kamala Harris, with her cackle, often
liquored up on wine, dropping their word constantly, if she
was the president, where would we be right now?

Speaker 5 (38:15):
I could tell you we wouldn't be having this conversation.
No way, shape, matter or form.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Would that be taking place.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
Look, I don't even want to think about it because
everything was at stake. I'm going to make a prediction too.
And this is what's so interesting about President Trump. Everything
he's doing is big, transformational, consequential, and he is willing
to expend political energy where where every other you know,
modern day president that we can name, you know, would

(38:43):
be wringing their hands and talking to their advisors. And
that's not how this man operates. He thinks big. Everything
is big. You know when I saw magic happen. When
I went on that trip to the Ghold States, I
actually travel with the President on Air Force one. I'm
not name dropping.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I was working.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
I did an interview with him on Air Force one,
but then I followed the president tell them everywhere he
went and what was fascinating When we first arrived in
Saudi Arabia, Billy Cunningham. I walked into a room and
there is every major CEO of every fortune five hundred
company in America, and they're there and they want to

(39:21):
do business with every American manufacturer. When the President left
the Gulf States, those three countries, he had seven trillion
dollars in committed moneys from manufacturing. That means automobile manufacturing,
semiconductor chip manufacturing, pharmaceutical manufacturing. I mean they're investing heavily

(39:43):
in this partnership with the United States in part because
of one man, that's Donald J.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Trump.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
They want to be in business with him. And don't
kid yourself when and not you, but other people. When
Donald Trump took out a RAN's nuclear sites, there was
a collective.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Sigh of relief.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
The great untold story of his first term was the
fact that he created an alliance with Israel, the US,
the Egyptians, Jordanians, the Saudis, and other Arab countries. And
they were intelligent.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Sharing at levels that most people would.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
Have no idea about, all standing united against Theraiganian hegemony,
all understanding that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Trust me.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
Saudi Arabia feared a nuclear armed Iran as much as
much as Israel did. So that one maneuver it kind
of freeze everybody up now to do things that they
never would otherwise do politically. I can tell you a
funny story. So I ran into I was in that
big room with all those fortune five hundred company people

(40:54):
and all the top leaders in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
I'm like, what the hell am I doing here?

Speaker 5 (40:59):
They really must have had a nice They must have
thought I was on the I should have been serving
tables like I did in the old days, Billy Cunningham.
And I'm sitting next to the longest running cabinet minister
in Saudi history on one side, a multi billionaire construction
guy on the other side of me, and I'm like,
what am I doing here? And I saw Marco Rubio's guy,

(41:21):
and I knew he was going to see President Erduwan
of Turkey, and I said, does he have a minute.
He goes, sure, come on up. And I didn't know
I was walking up to the daist. I had no
idea and I'm like, no, no, I said.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I pulled him back.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
I said, I don't want to go to the day.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
He goes, no, No, no, he wants to see you.
I said, okay, I walked up.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
I whispered something that I wanted to tell Marco where
we've been good friends forever love Marco Rubio. And then
Dan Scavina yeels out, mister President. There's Sean Hannity and
President Trump's sitting next to MBS, and MBS looks up.
This is a true story, Billy Cunningham. I'll take it

(41:59):
to my grave. And so the President goes, oh, mister
uh miss crown Prince. That is Sean Hannedy. He's the
biggest media guy in America. He makes ninety million dollars
a year, which I don't. He goes not as much
as you he goes, but he makes a lot of money.
He's very influential. And I said, mister President, they have

(42:21):
no idea who I am here the guy who is
rich Gos Hannity, the guy to his Richos Hannity, Fox News,
nine pm Eastern. Wow, I'm like.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
A bad thing.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
Bill? Was that a good or a bad thing? Bill?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I think that's a great thing for some kid that
your upbringing. It's it's incredible. Now. Lastly, on Monday, the
hostages are going to be released allegedly, and and then
Phase one begins and the firing stops, and then the
aid comes in, sees fire IDF pullback. Then there's going
to be two thousand terrorists released by Israel. What happens

(42:58):
to the what happens to them in the future, What
happens to the five thousand Hamas rats in the holes?
I guess they got to freak get out of jail
free card.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
It looks like it. But understand this. Within Israel, you know,
there's such there is such a love of life, and
the desire to get as many hostages home alive is
so acute and has been so acute, and the pressure
has been so great.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
I'm Prime Minister.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
Int yahoo that once, once that heavy burden is lifted,
if in fact Hamas is stupid and I don't say,
I don't rule it out and they want to start
up a conflict again.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
The hostages for them have been a their key.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Leverage point, right and if they start up again, you know,
BB didn't need this deal to eliminate the threat in Gaza.
BB could obliterate them. We've all seen the military mind
of Israel. It is beyond impressive, considering the size and
the small population of Israel. You know, it really bothers

(44:09):
me that so many people in the halls of Congress,
college campuses, and the punditry class are beating up Israel
if you look at their small populations. A little over
nine million in Israel, that's not a lot. A landmass
the size of New Jersey. And Israel loses what would
be the equivalent of forty thousand Americans in a day,

(44:32):
and then we're going to be mad at Israel. How
they're fighting a war. I'd been there. I went to
a border town that got hit with ten thousand rockets
in ten years. It's called throat kids playing underground bunker playgrounds.
I've been in those underground terror tunnels. Bill Cunningham, I've
been in them.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
I've filmed in them.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
I mean, you know, money that should have gone to
hospitals and schools and infrastructure to help people and feed people,
they wasted it because their greater desire was to kill
the people of Israel.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
So I have a lot.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Of hope today. But you know, I'm a trust for
Verify guy, and hopefully we get to the point where
these people realize and embrace peace as their only alternative
or they face obliteration.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Sean Hannity, thank you theirs. I was there once. I
loved that. I felt at home as a practicing Roman Catholic.
God bless America. And I'd say this, the only thing
left for you is the presidency of the United States.

Speaker 7 (45:32):
America is we do a lot better off. We are
blessed to do the job of that that God gave
us to do. God gave you a bigger mouth than me.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I'm trying to learn from the best.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
And there's nobody smarter, quicker, funnier, more articulate than Bill Cunningham.
God bless you, Bill Cunningham. God bless the big one,
and God bless America.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
John Hanned You're the best. Back to your sends, a
work out and stay healthy and stay strong at least
for another twenty years. And as Charlie Kirk would say,
it's all about God, family and America. And that's the
same thing that you and I stand for, the same
thing the President stands for. Sean Hannity, You're the best
there is And thanks for coming on the Bill cunning.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Hell, I love you too, Sean. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Alright, let's continue with more there It is from Sean Hannity,
who does the big interviews all the time. While MSNBC
worries about the Epstein files, Sean Hannity and Donald Trump
are solving the world problems in the Middle East. Bill
Cunningham on seven hundred w l W Dally.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
Yuck, Hello, Bye, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Dal It.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Party and has Vladimir Guerrero.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
And uh, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (47:15):
They got beat? Guess who is the vice president baseball
operations an assistant general manager for the Toronto Blue Jays
who are headed to the American League Championship Series. No,
Paul O'Neal. No, who David Bell? Yeah, American champ Yeah,

(47:40):
that's where he went in Toronto.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Vice president of baseball Operations and assistant GM for the
Blue Jays. They are now in the American League Championship
Series against either some dating in a World Series ring
Bengoti in Canada. Are you sure?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
David Bell?

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
This David Bell, the guy that I taught to hit right.
Plus the Cleveland Browns right now are currently paying eight
quarterbacks this season, ey Deshaun Watson a thirty five million,
Jamis Winston at two point two, Dylan Gabriel at one
point one, Joe Flacco on the field right now, nine

(48:24):
hundred and ninety nine thousand a game. No, this is season.
The Shadier Sanders nine to fifty five thousand? Was it
Bailey as zap or Zappy? I think three hundred fifteenth
thous what three hundred and fifteen thousand, eight quarterbacks and
none of them can quarterback. I've met Dorian Thompson, Robinson

(48:45):
kid getting him get his name on her. He's one
hundred and seventy one thousand, and Kenny Pickett eight million dollars,
and you would think that would pick one quarterback that
could play Placo. Do we have a chance. Well, there's
a photo Eddie, and I'm thinking they got a chance. Well,
I got a chance. There's a photo of Joe Flacco

(49:07):
shaking hands with Mike Brown just a few moments ago
with practice. Didn't Mike Brown just turn ninety years old?
I think last month? Yes, and he just met Joe Flacco.
All I can say is if Joe Flacco, I said
this yesterday, has to play, well, oh what if he

(49:27):
beats the Packers, beats the Stealers a week from today, Well,
then then beat Tennessee. I think now, I think then
he goes into the Ring of Honor immediately if not
a monter. But would the Bengals pay to have the
other Ring of honor menters members come to honor Joe
Flacco in the Ring of Honor? Will heave the Stuart
Reporters approach service every local Temestar heating and air conditioning

(49:50):
dealers temstar quality you can feel in Cincinnati called Stacy
Heating and Air Solutions unbelievable five one, three, three six
seven eah e A T You know, I always say
John Crumley is a great Browns fan Cleveland Browns. Yes,
he says, we're all hostages. None of us are fans.

(50:11):
And you think the Bengals have problems. What if you
were a Browns fan and you have eight quarterbacks and
none of them can right exactly, and before that they
always train in Cleveland. That's a that's another problem, right.
I think it is supposed to be snowing there tomorrow morning.
Would you live in Cleveland? I I'm not going to

(50:35):
crap on Toledo. I like Toledo. I want to live
right here in the right old Mighty Ohio River. We're
we're further south.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Bull times in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
A game Cleveland. We're out of Detroit, but you know
Cincinnati is further south than parts of Kentucky. Well, we
also want to thank Ron's Roofs Restaurant in part of
the world's greatest fried chicken for our lunch today. Thank you,
mister President thirty eight to fifty three Race Road at
five one three five seven four two two two or

(51:05):
Ronsroost dot Net and Ron Junior. The uh he's like
Prince William of the royal family brought it down the
other one, Harry. But I was there Saturday night and
I spent time with you. Had left an hour and
a half earlier, and right you emptied out the buffet.
Olga told me you ate everything in the puffed I

(51:26):
was hungry, and so they had to Rey had to
shut down the operation for about thirty minutes to rest chicken,
the sausage and mashed potatoes and gravy, the corn, the coleslaw,
and the salad for seventeen ninety five. Are you kidding me?
I'm salad ninety five, seventeen ninety five for all that.

(51:46):
And I said you got to raise the prices, Olga,
But you know what she said, no, And you know
she's ninety seven years old. Yes, and I said to Ron,
she deserves a raise when she gets to one hundred.
She'll get a raise from eight bucks an hour to
eight fifty an hour when she turns one hundred years old. Bengal,
I don't know minimum wage at ten seventy four. Well,

(52:07):
that's illegal. It's illegal. He's paying her below the table,
below the minimum wage. Well, the Bengals up. They brought
to you by good Spirits and party Town, the thirteen
locations in northern Kentucky. Bengals and packers. Now I'm asking Sunday,
look to your Yeah, if Trump solves the Middle Eastern problem,
the hostage according to A Moss, we're releasing the hostages

(52:29):
on Monday. According to A Moss, if he can solve this,
that's it. But then he's the greatest of all time.
I'd go get Obama's Peace Prize. They give it a Barack,
you did nothing, Go give it to uh Trump collected
from Barack Hussein. I mean, he's all he has to
do now is get Ukraine and Russia figured out the

(52:49):
world's at the world's at peace. And what if Kamala
Harris was in the White House. Well, I mean it
wouldn't the world wouldn't be here. I'd have two problems.
You know what they are for jec Tell vomiting and
explosive diarrhea. Pray everybody. Preview the game tonight Cincinnati Tax
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(53:13):
Law Live from Long Knicks and Richwood, six oh five
here on seven hundred WLW. Joe Flacco will meet the
media tomorrow. Let's ask him, segu will you be there
to ask a few questions.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
We got Joe at quarterback, just not a burrow. Well,
we got one Joe. See what happens with the other one.
Joe and Joe, Joe and Joe Flacco. Thursday Night, NFL
Eagles and Giants, seven thirty on Fox Sports, thirteen sixty.
Eagles are in crisis. Baseball Kyle Schwarber two home runs
one on one of them is still rolling West San Diego.

(53:46):
How would have hit at the Great American Ballpark? He
would remodel. He would remodel left field and then the
home the balls would smash into Herriage Bank Center. You
know in the year eighteen ten, By the way, I'll
ask you who was president in eighteen ten, Ohio River
flowed backwards for four days. Can you think they have
done the Licking River flow the other way? That went backwards?

(54:08):
But still does I think fat Licking goes south to north.
I'm talking to the Ohio River instead of flowing toward Louisville,
that flowed backwards toward Pittsburgh for four days. I think
a lot of people still think that. Now, think about that.
For how much power did that take for that earthquake
headquartered in Missouri to send the Ohio River flowing backwards

(54:29):
for four days? Unbelievable? There, and you've got a crisis
game four of the Phils Dodgers tonight at six in
la You got the Brewers and the Cubs tonight at
nine at Wrigley Field. Got a text here the Kevin
Farmer running for city council unrelated, and I might add
the Dick Farmer and the farmers who run CentOS right

(54:51):
has checked himself into a mental hospital. He's running for council.
Toronto blue Jays are headed to the Alcs after beating
the Yanks. The Yanks are coming. No, They're done, Dave,
Can we hear from uh? Can we hear once again?
From the Blue Jays players.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
Uh, they were.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
They were playing New York, New York in the in
the in the clubhouse during their celebrations next night.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Yeah, Yankee.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Big Poppy is having a lot of fun on Fox
because on one side of him is a is Alex
Rodriguez and the other one is Derrek Jeter and he
is to kill him. Yankees News, Yanky News Detroit in Seattle,
Oh my god, Game five winner go home tomorrow in Seattle.
What about the big Dumper? I don't know. He's got

(55:45):
to get with it. Did he hit sixty home runs
this year? Didn't he hit sixty or sixty one? You
know the big Dumper is Yeah, it's Cal Rawley. He's
the big dumper. You know why they call him the dumper?
And I don't say I'm done. It takes a big dike.
It's like what you did in that hot tub? Correct? Anyway?
I mean, is that how you should be known? If
you're the big Dumper? You gotta have I guess you

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gotta have some kind of nickname. I don't know. High
school sports, well, he's Saint X Anderson. Centerville golf teams
are headed to the Ohio Boys State golf tourney next
week at Firestone and Akron. Oh. By the way, I'm
glad you're pointed that out. Tomorrow at one thirty. Yeah,
Kenji the superintendent of schools in Madeira. Yeah, are bringing

(56:27):
in the Amazons. The Amazons will be here the second
overall overall, which is fabulous. They're going to be here.
That's kind of our home high school right there. Kenji
Matsuda will bring in the girls from Madera, Finny's second
in the state. Several of the girls shot sixty eight.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
St.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Sat Ex's Peter Boylan, Sat Saint X's Peter Boylan, and
it's the Franklin senior. Aiden Standaffer was a to attorney
medalist at sixty seven. Peter Boyling the Saint X with
a sixty eight along with a Coda West to kou
Fujiwara Sycamore, along with the Anderson girls teams are headed

(57:13):
to the state tournament in golf next week. The Aviators
Eva Beckseryl at a seventy yesterday and Lebanon's Olivia Donovan
and Little Miami's Laura and Perry are going to be
individual qualifiers for the state next week. That's pretty good.
So that's pretty good. The Indian Hill Girls tennis team

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is in the Division II Final four, while Mason the
Lady Comets are in the Division I Final four in
state tennis. Let's get him in here if they win.
So there you go, get him in here. About Roger Bacon,
I told Wayne Carucci the boys and girls that Bacon
did so well and if they want to bring in
the boys and the girls to commemorate their victory, because

(57:57):
Roger Bacon is not known for the golf ten would
you agree they finished seventh? That's great out of how
many fifteen hundred schools. Yeah, that's not bad, not bad.
So if Wayne Carucci was kind of the David Ledbetter,
he's kind of. He's been asked to head up the
Ryder Cup team in Ireland. You better had that couple
of weeks a lot better. But Hegan Bradley, Wayne Carucci

(58:19):
may become head of the Ryder Cup team. They bring
some of the boys and girls from Roger Bacon to
play an American Rider Cup team couldn't win at Western
Hills putt putt. That's not good. All I can say
is we are hill Billy Golf and Gatlinburg who got
a crisis everywhere, Segment, that's for sure. And all I
know is that all I have is hope. Now I
ask you. On the other hand, any fingers brought this
up yesterday when I was with him. What happens if

(58:42):
Flacco gets tackled and is out for the season with
the knee, elbow caff or topo, then you know what
the snake's in. The snake is Jake? Is that Jake
Browning is back? We'll see what and later on we
have a chief of police, Rich Wallace of Amberley Village,
will be here in about an hour to talk about
a fundraiser involving the high end automobiles of Joe Burrow, T.

(59:03):
Higgins and Jamar Chase at Luncoln. We're gonna break news
on this in about an hour from now. You Segment
can go to Luncln a week from Saturday and sit
in the vehicles of those Bengal stars. Seg give me
out the Steward's report. Well, the a honor of a
beautiful day here at the tri State, we leave you
with the immortal words of the stood Driport always stood

(59:27):
to be with you, Bill, see you later. I talked
to him yesterday. He's coming on next week you talk
about drugs and more. Yeah, on news radio seven hundred,
Bill Cunningham, the great American. Of course, we have the

(59:49):
debates going on in the Congress right now, sometimes in
the hallways between Republicans and Democrats about the government continued
to subsidize directly Medicare premium. I'm sorry, Obamacare premiums to
the tune of billions of dollars every year. And I
like to kind of begin in the beginning and end
at the end. But a column written by Joseph Asquez

(01:00:10):
of a media research center business editor says, among other things,
this is how in tournament programs work. Once you habituate
people to some generous government handout, they grow dependent on
it and it becomes politically perilous, if not impossible, to
fully claw it back. That describes the so called Affordable
Care Act, that describes Obamacare, and a big headline in

(01:00:34):
the Washington Post says the Obamacare was never actually affordable. Jonah,
you and I now is Joseph Asquez with Brent Brozel's group,
Media Research Center NewsBusters dot org. He's the business editor
and Joseph Asquez, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show.
And first of all, let's go back in time in
twenty ten. If you like your plan, keep your plan.
If you like your doctor, keep your doctor. Premiums are

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going down every Explain twenty ten for those that aren't
around fifteen years ago.

Speaker 9 (01:01:02):
Oh, I mean, like, the longest short of it is
that Obamacare was sold as the best thing since chocolate
ice cream for the American healthcare system. Oh, it's going
to lower premiums. It's gonna give everyone affordable healthcare, free
healthcare for everybody. You know, the exchanges are gonna make Yeah,
I mean, well we know now fifteen years after the
I mean, we conservatives have been saying that this whole
thing was a mess from the beginning. But now the

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Washington Post editorial Board of all Publications, one of the
publications that was responsible for selling Obamacare to begin with,
is now coming out and saying, yeah, actually, the Obamacare,
the Affordable Care Act, was never actually affordable.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
To begin with.

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
I'm like, you mean, you're admitting now, fifteen years after
the fact, what conservatives have been saying for over a decade.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
And you call this conspiracy theoriest.

Speaker 9 (01:01:48):
You call this, You called us crazy for saying what
you're now admitting. Now, give me a break.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
Gave me with a phone. It's amazing. At the time
something for nothing. Government involved in a project means it's
going to be rationed and extremely expensive. Instead of letting
market forces at play to solve the healthcare problems we have,
everyone turned to Obamacare as the canopy, the panopy of

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all great things in the future. The government is involved.
I guarantee you it'll be rationed and expensive. But at
the time, God help you if you oppose that. I
can recall about seven eight years ago when John McCain
gave it the thumbs down and the well United States
Senate to eliminate Obamacare, let market forces at play. And
now we're in a tough political position. So explain why

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the premiums have gone up so much and why the
government's got to pay a lot of the premium bills
for Americans up to the tune of a half million
dollars a year in salary. Why did it fail? Well,
why did it fail?

Speaker 9 (01:02:49):
I mean that's assuming that government programs ever work officially
to begin with, the problem is that when the government
gets involved in any part of the economy, it tends
to screw it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Up, and we knew that once it got involve in.

Speaker 9 (01:03:00):
The health insurance market, it was going to destroy competition.
The reimbursements for doctors was going to be extremely low,
ridiculously low. And we ended up seeing that happening. Doctors
ended up having to retire early because they could no
longer afford the low reimbursements from Obama, from Obamacare plans,
there was pathetic. So now, guess what costs of insurance
is going to go up, and not only that, the

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cost of care is also going to go up, just
so that these companies, just so that doctors can be
able to meet their bottom line. I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Crazy to me. It was crazy to me then.

Speaker 9 (01:03:30):
And I was just a flame throwing political junkie back
then in two thousand and ten, when you know, when
I was just you know, young, and you know, seeing
Obamacare for you know, even.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I then saw what Obamacare was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
And now years after the fact, now we have the.

Speaker 9 (01:03:44):
Liberal media turning around because now that they know that
Obamacare is already ingrained into the American economy, ingrained into
the American healthcare system, that it's almost impossible to get
rid of it. And now they're trying Oh yeah, Actually
it wasn't actually affordable, and the only way to keep
going is if you throw, you know, throw trillion dollars
or something like that towards it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
I'm like, are you are you guys out of your mind?

Speaker 9 (01:04:07):
You just admitted that this thing is a disaster, and
now you're saying, let's keep the disaster going by throwing
a bunch of money at the problem and hope that
it will fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Give me a break.

Speaker 9 (01:04:18):
It's ridiculous. I mean, I wonder if he got their
economic on their lessons of economics out of a cereal
box or something like that. It doesn't make any logical sense.
It didn't make logical sense back then, and it's sure
attack doesn't make any sense now. Shame on the media
and every single political hack in Washington that sold this lie,
this bill of lives to the American people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
And Joseph io Kes, the media research Center NewsBusters dot org.
On top of the failing system of Obamacare. On top
of that, add fifteen to thirty million illegals using the
system in which no one is paying a premium whatsoever,
and aggravated and exacerbate at the end. So I might
ask the question, what do we do now. You had
Marjorie Tailor Green on one of the morning talk shows,

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the firebrand from the right, saying, no, wait a minute,
my premiums for me and my three kids are going
up to four thousand dollars a month. I currently pay
two thousand dollars a month. The question might be, well,
did fifteen years ago when the government took over the
medical health care in the system number one, like your plan,
kept your plan? No, you didn't keep your plan too,

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like your doctor keep your doctor. That didn't work. Medical
costs have gone the opposite of what was promised. So
now we're fifteen years later, and even Marjorie Taylor Green
is saying we have to subsidize the premium payments to
insurance companies. And she's making I would assume a quarter
million dollars a year. So she's going to go to
Butcher's bakers and candlestick makers to say, well, you may

(01:05:43):
make a quarter million dollars a year, but we're going
to subsidize your healthcare premium because of Obamacare. And it's
going to be damn near impossible for the Republicans not
to provide some support for this out of the taxpayer's pockets,
even for those making a quarter million dollars a year.

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
You hit the nail right on the head, sir, You
hit the nail right on the head. And that's what
the whole scam of Obamacare is. It's an admitted disaster.
And the problem is we can't get rid of this disaster.

Speaker 9 (01:06:14):
So guess what, all of the millions of people that
are currently on Obamacare if something happens with their coveragere
looking at a healthcare crisis that was created by the
left that they're now trying to pin on the right.
It's the It's it's political hackery at its finest, and
it affects me personally. This whole issue affected me personally
because in twenty fourteen, when the provisions of Obamacare were

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first getting rolled out, my mother, who was going through
breast cancer at the time, a very severe breast cancer.
She was getting private insurance from our church that my
father worked at.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
And it was relatively good.

Speaker 9 (01:06:47):
She was getting treated at the Cancer Institute of Pennsylvania.
But then when she had to get off that insurance
and then went on to Obamacare, she lost her care
at the Cancer Institute of Pennsylvania, and she went months
without getting them necessary medication that she needed to be
able to deal with whether cancer while he's in remission.
So it personally angers me that the media sold this

(01:07:08):
bill of lives. It affected my household personally, and I
know what effected millions of others as well. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
That can't be true, though, Joseph, because Obama said, if
you like your plan, you keep your plan. If you
like your doctor, you keep your doctors. So what you're
relating cannot be true because the apostle, the apostle of
saal Olenski. The apostle said keep your plan, and it's
all sold as a lie. And now, according to the AMA,
there's eighty thousand docs in their fifties and sixties when

(01:07:35):
they're in their prime of their life who can't handle
the paperwork anymore. They're quitting. They're looking forward to retirement
at sixty two, sixty five, but the quitting in their fifties,
they can't handle it anymore. Hospitals not just in Cincinnati
where I'm located, or all around the country or having
a terrible problem with staying afloat because of all the
illegal use by the illegals. And secondly, the low reimbursements

(01:07:56):
from the federal government means it guarantees the bankruptcy of
the hostelspits, especially rural hospitals. So the Republicans put in
the recent bill fifty billion dollars support for rural hospitals.
What us to say about hospitals in Cincinnati or Dallas
or Los Angeles. They don't get that fifty billion dollars.
They have to rely upon the marketplace and low reimbursement rates.
And lastly, DEI has dominated at the medical schools today,

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which means the quality coming out is not what it was.
Older docs want to quit immediately. They can't afford the reimbursement.
People are getting injured, hurt, and sick because of they
can't keep their plan. They have to be thrown into
some other system, and Obama, I guess, walks away free
and clear. Correct, because the media is not going to
peg the apostle of Saul Alinsky with anything such as

(01:08:41):
you created this terrible system and now we've got to
bail people out and make up to a half million
dollars a year. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
No, exactly right. The media is never going to come
out and say.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Oh, look, the emperor has no clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
They're never going to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:54):
Because they protected Obama then they're going to protect him.
Now they're going to protect his cohorts that help sell
this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
To begin with.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
The whole thing was an utter monstrosity, and.

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
It's exhibit a exhibit a of the farce of government
thinking that it can intrude into the economy and think
that it's gonna fix anything. If history since time of
Memorial has taught us anything, anytime the government takes over
an entire sector of the economy, it tends to destroy it.
And Obamacare did that to the American health insurance system,

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and shame on everybody who sold us as those goods.
My family was personally affected by this, so use my
family as evidence.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
This whole thing was a disaster from the start.

Speaker 9 (01:09:35):
And now you're seeing these big wigs up in these
editorial boards of major publications coming out and saying, well,
we've been saying for years, they're you know, that's what's
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
It's utterly ridiculous.

Speaker 9 (01:09:49):
That now, over fifteen years after the fact, that they're
now confirming what we already knew to be true for
so many years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
But they didn't want you to believe your lying eyes.

Speaker 9 (01:09:58):
They didn't want you to believe your lying eyes about
what dinaster of Obamacare was going to be, how it
was going to jack up premiums. I think right now,
the latest a new study from the Paragon Health Industry's
figured out that the per and roly cost of Medicaid
went up like sixty percent. I mean, that's not a mistake.
That's a catastrophic failure. But of course the media, the

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media is just going to be like, well, them's the breaks.
We got to throw money at the situation anyway. Otherwise,
healthcare in America is going to go belly up. Let me,
Joseph Vocas, let me share with you a headline. I'm
looking to my right right now, and this is true
in every city in America. And this is the headline
out of the Cincinnati Inquir Quote Cincinnati hospitals are cutting costs.
How patients and employees are being affected quote first line

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Squeezed by federal policy changes. Local hospitals and service providers
are shutting down services and laying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Off employees to stay aflut. Oftentimes, this means that patients
like your mother and employees are on the hook for
the rising cost of care amidst shrinking services. In September,
you see health, dermatology and primary care patients received a
letter indicating that in addition to the usual bill patients
will charge, will be charged one hundred and fifty dollars

(01:11:10):
per visit because of a hospital outpatient facility. They're cutting
hundreds of jobs, shutting down floors of the hospital because
the reimbursements are so bad, the overuse so great, and
those using the system put nothing into it. That the
come to Jesus meeting must be held by all the hospitals,
all the doctors, all the medical providers. Who thought Obamacare

(01:11:32):
was going to be the panacea, give to the government
the responsibility of conducting something as difficult as the American
medical business and industry. You're going to have abject failure.
Washington Post figured it out. So here's the big Joseph Bacas,
Are you ready for the big question? Yes, I'm ready
for the big question. What do you say to families

(01:11:53):
that make eighty one hundred thousand dollars a year that
are in the exchanges, that are seeing their premiums go
from two one thousand dollars a month to four thousand
dollars a month because of the failure of Obamacare. What happens?

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
What do I say to these families.

Speaker 9 (01:12:08):
I say to these families, never believe anything the media
ever tells you again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Without looking for yourself to find the truth.

Speaker 9 (01:12:17):
Look at these people for the liars that they are.
Don't trust anything that you see on television. Don't trust
anything that you read that you read from these legacy
media newspapers like the New York Times of the Washington Post.
Go find out for yourself because they because these media
types surest hell, aren't going to do anything to tell
you the truth. They're after an agenda, and it's a
leftist agenda, So you have to see it for what

(01:12:38):
it is and find the truth for yourself. Do not
look at the media anymore as the as the bulwark,
you know, for the for the people against the government.
They are an extension of the federal government.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Joseph Vok has all your sulffs at NewsBusters dot org. Headline.
Fifteen years later, Washington Post editorial board says Obamacare was
never actually affordable. There's the Washington Post admits they were wrong,
and now we're stuck with the outcome Joseph Vacaz, You're
a great American and thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. Thank you Joseph, Thank you Bill, Thank you.

(01:13:12):
God bless America. Let's continue with more. There you have it.
Who do you blame now, Republicans who voted against Obamacare
or the Democrats who foisted upon you and your family
this lie, Bill Cunningham seven hundred. Wow. Let's go to
school a little bit on the Obamacare subsidies. And one

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of the great comments was made by Milton Friedman many
many years ago when he said, essentially, this is how
entitlement programs work. Once you habituate Americans to some generous
government handout, they grow dependent on it, and it becomes
politically perilous, if not impossible to call it back. That's

(01:13:54):
what's happening. Now, go to school a little bit. When
Biden and Nancy Pelosi took over, they beefed up the
Obamacare existing premium subsidies through the exchanges as part of
Joe Biden's sweeping COVID nineteen pandemic relief package. So the
measure what happened in twenty twenty one is that allowed
more lower income and middle class Americans to go through

(01:14:14):
the exchanges and obtain coverage at low or very low
or very low expenses. And so in the beginning there
was about ten million people that signed up over about
two years. But by the now toward the end of
twenty twenty five, there was about twenty five million Americans
signed up for coverage, just doubling the number who selected
the plans way back in twenty twenty one. And the

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subsidies begin at no income, go all the way up
in some circumstances to five hundred thousand dollars a year.
You can still have subsidies to pay your premium. In addition,
Democrats and Obamacare advocates stress that time is of the essence.
Open enrollment begins November the first in all states but
Idaho they have October fifteenth. That means that GOP leaders

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and Trump say they're willing to discuss extending the subsidies,
but only after the government reopens. And what are the
subsidies costs. It's about over ten years, in the range
of four hundred billion dollars. Four hundred billion dollars over
a ten year period, which is a gigantic amount of money.
And if the subsidies. In other words, see the payments

(01:15:24):
by the government to you as an Obamacare recipient. If
they're not extended, that monthly premiums will go up about
one hundred percent for Americans who make less than four
hundred thousand dollars a year. If you're sixty years old
and you're a single, and you're a couple, sixty year
old couple too, making about ninety thousand bucks a year,

(01:15:46):
you're going to shell out about twenty two thousand for
annual coverages because of your age and pre existing conditions.
So that's a huge amount of money. And the cost
to shall we say single Americans would also be significantly
increased by about one hundred percent once a government program
begins and the recipients start getting it, and it's damn

(01:16:06):
near impossible to eliminate it, as we're now finding out.
Two thirty Homier, Reds and Bengals and bearcuts, News Radio
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Speaker 11 (01:16:15):
Some of these protesters, that's amazing, absolutely amazing. Some of
these protesters hold up signs proclaiming Gaze for Gaza. They
might as well hold up signs saying chickens for KFC.

Speaker 8 (01:16:32):
Hello, Hello, Bye, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
Some of these protesters.

Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
That's amazing, absolutely amazing. Some of these protesters hold up
signs proclaiming gaze for Gaza. They might as well hold
up signs saying chickens for KFC.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
How about Ron's roos? What I'm saying, Come on, man,
come on, beat at your fact straight. Come on. It's
amazing how the left wing, generally subsidized in their behavior
by George Soros and others, are paid protesters. They march
around acting as if they have a cause, when it's
all a bunch of bs, paid for protests, segment paid for.

(01:17:17):
This is probably breaking CNN Willie, but right now breaking news.
Trump hostages should be released Monday or Tuesday. Trump will
be there saying if that happens, if that piece lasts
over there, the data shooting at each other since time began,
Pyramids been go. We saw the movie before the spelt
the Pyramids, long fighting ever since long time. And now

(01:17:41):
if Trump solves this, wanted the Democrats just say no
the roll, shut your mouth, We're done, Chuck Schumer. Let's
give it up, open up, open up for life. You
got it, you win, you settle the Middle East. No
more Democrats, thank goodness, it's three and a half years
from now. If this is still peaceful over there and
the Arabs are rebuilding Gaza, I would say, mister President,

(01:18:03):
will give you the presidency as long as you want it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Just keep it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Twenty third Amendment, Yeah, twenty five whatever, Just say the
hell with it. That one too, You keep it all.
You've solved peace in the Middle East? What would ben her?
What would ten commandments? What would Moses say? Row well
and live forty one? Well, Tony Pike did row well?
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know a segment, Council, We're gonna have a great debate

(01:19:12):
tonight with the mayors. Boy and the in car wants
to know why is the military needed in our city?
How about asking why are the crime rates so high
and the arrest rates so low that you have to
talk about getting troops here? How about the policy failures
of the Democrat party segment? What about that? I agree
with you? What about him? Go ahead? College basketball Persel Marions,

(01:19:33):
four time state champion d Alexander at the University of
Cincinnati Bearcats, has been named the Big twelve preseason Freshman
of the Year.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Nil.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
All I think about is nil. So she is headed,
she's going to play for the Bearcats. How about Al
Golden is saying he's confident in Joe Flacco. What's he
going to say? I'm not confident?

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
I don't want him. I don't want it. Okay, let's
see game for tonight of the Phillies and Dodgers six
o'clock on Los Angeles with LA up two to one,
and then that'll be followed by you forgot about Schwarber,
the Middletown's Kyle Schwarber two home runs. They say that
ball is still rolling down. It is down into into

(01:20:18):
past the US Mexican border. It's rolling toward Tijuana. You
have no idea what you're saying. Chicago and Milwaukee to
night at nine Wrigley Field, they'll be Rocket oh Man.
Toronto's in led by David Bell. Say this again because
he is the vice president of baseball Operations and assistant

(01:20:39):
general manager of the Toronto Blue Jays. Are David Bell?
Try to try to call him and see what he thinks.
I have his number. I'm not calling anybody anymore. Detroit
and Seattle Game five winner, go home Tigers Mariners tomorrow
night in Seattle. What about the big dumper? He's got

(01:21:00):
to hit the big dumper could be h could be dumping.
We'll see out of the playoffs either way. But David Bell,
feet is that? Thank you? What I would like to
see is the Phillies beat the Dodgers tonight Game five winner,
go home Saturday night, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. For all the marbles,

(01:21:26):
And what about Schwarber, He'll hit six of them? Well,
I'd love to have him here along with with the
Panda bear. Have I getting them both here? Would that
be something? Yes, that would be something. The Reds would
need a new scoreboard because there'd be holes in it
when he hits home runs. Well, Phil Castellini said, I
need it. I can't read the scoreboard. It's too many holes.
Could the Eagles do a deal with the Phillies where

(01:21:49):
we send maybe Trey Hendricks to the Eagles, and then
the Eagles say to the Phillies We'll give you Kyle
Schwarber and make it a cross sport deal. Is that
a possible and throw in the Eagles offensive line, throw
him in, and then we will give you maybe uh
money Mack and Trey Hendricks. We'll let them play, shall

(01:22:10):
we say? For the Eagles? But then the Eagles tell
the Phillies to trade Kyle Schwarver here to play for
the Rets. Does that make any sense to anybody? Yeah?
I think so, he does. Why not? All right, let's
try it. We gotta try something difficult. But his arms scared.
Al Golden said yesterday a story by Shelby A. Dermer
of The Inquirer, his arm scares me. Joe Flacco's arm scared.

(01:22:35):
I'm just wondering too if they I mean, is there
a National Football League rule that you can't go after
anybody in the CFL? Because former UC quarterback Zach Klaro's
I think has more rings than anybody else. Zach Kilaris
did the job with the CFL, the Winnipeg Winnipeg Canadian

(01:22:57):
Football League, so he's unbelievable there. And Ken Bruce sending
me a note right now as I talk. Don't wacko
our Flaco, Ken Brew new fight Sloan, there's a T
shirt for Cincinnati shirts. Don't wacko ur Flaco. He Brews
always thinking, isn't he amen? That guy's a legend in

(01:23:19):
his own time? Get a shirt, Ken, don't Flaco, don't
wacko our Flacco. Does it make sense? Why not put
it on a shirt? You'll sell him? Megan up, don't
touch him in the Bengal offensive line. Keep Joe Flacco upright.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
I don't know. I'm not that smart.

Speaker 6 (01:23:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
Give me out the students report. We have Chief Rich
Wallace to join us. They're going to raise some money
for police needs in Hamleton County, especially when someone has falling,
and they're going to do a special event a week
from Saturday at Luncan with some of the vehicles of
Joe Burrow, t Higgins and Jamar Chase to raise money

(01:23:59):
and it's I'm all sponsored by and also the food's
being donated by Jeff Ruby one hundred and fifty dollars
each to go to the special car show put on
by the high end types like Harry Yagy and Jim Stall.
So how about that. You have a high end car
you want to display there?

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
You do?

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
Yeah, get me out of the student's report. We have
Chief Rich Wallace, who, by the way, his predecessor was
Chief of Police Jack Monaghan, who dated my wife in
grade school. How about that one, Willie, And out of
another beautiful day here in the tri State, we leave
you with the immortal words of the Stude Report.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Well, what if they unleash Goofy on Mickey Moos and
Goofy takes Mickey Moose out and that's it. And then
Goofy is like he's like a fourth or fifth line character.
Nobody cares what Goofy's going to do. I mean, they
could really have a lot of fun with this and
really traumatize a lot of children.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
You know, he's retired, lots of free time, lots of
free time for ken Brew would you agree? But the
best Oh he did sports well in the Wizard of Kenwood.
Don't wacko block out on seven hundred wlw Bill cunning
in the Great American of course. Chief of Police and
Amberley Village is Rich Wallace. Rich Wallace has been a

(01:25:18):
comp for about twenty or thirty years. He walks in
the shoes of Jack Monahan, who was the Chief of
Police and Amble Village for many many years, if not decades.
And Jack Monahan used to date my wife. So I
feel particularly strong about Amberley Village whenever I drive through.
And Chief rich Wallace. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And I read somewhere you have a big event coming
up on Saturday a week Can you explain what's going

(01:25:41):
to happen then, because it involves the Bengals and raising
money for a great cost.

Speaker 6 (01:25:46):
Yeah, thanks Willie, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 12 (01:25:48):
Yeah, the Hamilton County Police Association Charitable Foundation. On Saturday
October eighteenth, from.

Speaker 6 (01:25:55):
One pm to five pm. We're doing an exclusive.

Speaker 12 (01:25:59):
Car event and we partnered with Javar Chase, T Higgins
Odium and a few other places to be a great event.
They it sounded a forty five fifty six airport road
down a Lucking airport.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
It's beautiful And what is the event? Where is the
money go? Because I know all of us try to
raise money for the Shield which helps cops and difficulty
when they're dead and their families are left behind the
handle expenses. Explain what is the charity and how does
the how's the money spent?

Speaker 12 (01:26:32):
So the charity was formed because there's so many outreaches
in law enforcement with AHPA, the Shield and other things.
The charity was formed to be able to support all.

Speaker 6 (01:26:44):
Other like type of police activity.

Speaker 12 (01:26:48):
So the like some people that are sponsored this event
actually here mark their money going to a CPA specific
for officers that are you know killed in line of duty.
So this charity will actually distribute the money as they
you know necessary, or as requests come in, whether it
be a the individual police department, whether it be another

(01:27:12):
fundraising group to need some assistance. But it's so far
we've done a really good job and this should be
a great event for us.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
What is the essence of the event. A lot of
the Bengals wide receivers will be there, it's high end
cars and how can average citizens like Segment Dennison get involved?

Speaker 12 (01:27:30):
Yeah, that's right, it's it's high end cars. A lot
of the Bengals will have their cars there, Jamar as
well as some of the Burroughs cars, and then a
lot of the players will be showing up. It will
have live music, raffles the uh that's actually the whole
event is catered by Jeff Ruby's, so we definitely will

(01:27:52):
have some good food there. General mission is one hundred
and fifty dollars and they can buy tickets on the
website for Hamilton kind of Police Association or they can
go to the Facebook plate page for Hamilton County Police Association.

Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
They can get all the information there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
When does the event begin and what time does it end?
On Saturday, the eighteenth of October.

Speaker 12 (01:28:14):
It begins at one pm and goes to five pm.
Because of limited parking, they'll actually have a valet service.

Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
Their assist in.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
Us getting people in and out, and the proceeds all
benefit those experiences around comp How hard Rich Wallace is
it a How hard is it to be a cop today?

Speaker 12 (01:28:34):
Is very hard because you're under a whole different micros
group with social media and.

Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
These live streaming things.

Speaker 12 (01:28:41):
You know, we're going through a hiring process now and
you just don't get it near the applicants they used
to get. We'd get hundreds of applicants in the past,
and now we're lucky to get two dozen.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
And I know those cameras on the chest to police
officers' body cams are kind of resisted in the beginning
because you don't want to be recording every everything in
the life that you do. But on the other hand,
it's been a life sin because it has shown to
be lies, the number of false charges fought against cops.
Hasn't the body cam kind of worked out in a way?

Speaker 6 (01:29:11):
You know, the body camp has worked out.

Speaker 12 (01:29:13):
I mean, has it ever you know, worked against policemen. Yeah,
but that's what we want. If there's wronggoing, it'll be addressed.
But I would say the high ninety percent of the
time it works in our favor because there's a lot
of false allegations against policemen and this just proves the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Well that's about ninety five percent of the allegations are false.
But once again, to assist law enforcement and Hamilton County
Police Association website one hundred and fifty dollars to enter
one to five Saturday next which is October the eighteenth
and h starting at five o'clock, and a lot of
the high end cars will be there. The Bengals, I'm
sure a lot of the players roll at ten, especially

(01:29:53):
by then they would have beaten hopefully they would have
beaten the Packers, and hopefully by then they would have
beaten pittsb or gonna way you go.

Speaker 6 (01:30:02):
Yeah, that's what our hope is.

Speaker 12 (01:30:04):
They played that Thursday night before against Pittsburgh, and we'll
bring him a win and have everybody there in great spirit.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Well Chief of Police, Rich Wallace and Emily Village. All
we have is hope. But once again, anytime I can
help a copy, let me know and have a great afternoon.
And God bless you and God bless America. Chief, thank
you very much.

Speaker 6 (01:30:21):
Thanks Willie, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
God bless you all. Let's continue with more news coming up.
You're home of the Reds and Bengals and Bearcats, and
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