5-12-25 Bill Cunningham Show

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Billy Cunningham, the Great American, and welcome to someone ran
the afternoon the tri State this Monday afternoon. Thank god
Red Spaceball is off, but back out of Tuesday, Wednesday
and Thursday against the Chicago White Sox, the favorite team
of Leo the fourteenth. There's fourteen again is the Chicago
White Sox. In fact, I've you had some time google

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Pope Leo at the White Sox game and Fox Sports
during a cutaway in between pitches in twenty oh five
when the White Sox are beating up on the Houston Astronomicals.
At that point they were in the National League, and
they had a cutout in which they had Pope Leo
the fourteenth in the stands cheering on the White Sox.

(00:47):
This is twenty years ago, sitting next to his brother
and his nephew. But until then, joyaan you and I
now is Senator John Eustead of the Great State of
Ohio and Senator Houstead. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Before we talk about drug pricing and tariffs, tariffs and
trade of Ukraine, Gaza, Indian Pakistan, give me your comments
on Leo the fourteenth. Who's a fan of the Chicago

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White Sox and also an Eagles fan. The White Sox
win the World Series, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.
What's your comments about the Pope?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We love the Pope, don't we.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know, I saw something the other day. I thought
this was hilarious. Is this typical Chicago? They said, you know,
we had Walter Payton, they had Michael Jordan, they have
Oprah Winfrey, Mike Dickka.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Now god, all from Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
So it was.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, that's that's Chicago, man, right there.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
We have coming to America. We have the Olympics, we
have the World Cup, we have the Pope, and we
got Donald Trump. Those are the foreheads.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Of Golden Age, the Golden Age of America.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
And I'm watching this and I watched the Trump so
this morning about drug costs, et cetera. So, Senator to
you said, I think there was some reporting that you
were with the President and the White House on Friday
discussing this issue with him. First of all, can you
explain the problem why we pay so much more than
any country in the world and what the Trump still
is going to do about it?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, quickly, I was at the White House on Friday
because the President signed my first bill into law, which
is a regulatory repeal of Biden error regulations on household appliances,
trying to we wanted to drive down the cost, give
more consumer choice. So I was there for that and
he said, well, what do you think about the prescription
drug issue? And I said he said, he said, we
need most Favored Nation status. We need to pay the

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best prices that these drug companies are given other countries
because we're subsidizing the rest of the world. And well,
that's absolutely right. American taxpayers, American consumers have been paying
astronomically higher prices on prescription drugs than the rest of
the world. And he's trying to bring it into that,
by the way, not to give America a better deal,

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just to give America a fair deal, the same prices
that everybody else is paying.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Tony Bender wants to know, why do we pay five, six,
seven times more than any other country. We're not talking
about Africa, We're not talking about subse Ara. We're talking
about Germany, England, France, Italy, talking about South Korea, China.
How come we pay so much?

Speaker 5 (03:15):
There's no good reason.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
They will suggest that the drug companies will suggest. I
read them this morning that they said, well, it's because
we have to pay for the R and D. Well,
the R and D should be paid for by everyone.
Spread it across the whole globe. Give Americans a fair
price on these drugs. I want to continue to support
research and development, but it shouldn't be completely on the

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backs of the American consumer.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Now, at some point, the five or six drug companies
there's stocks this money afternoon are quite a bit down
because they recover all their expenses from the American consumer
and then they pass on the same drugs in the
same formula and the same packaging all around the world
at little or no expense. And it's one thing. If
it's in the middle of Africa that poor those people

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need help, but not the EU. There's twenty nine nations
in the EU that negotiate the price they pay for
all these miracle drugs that we create, and it's lower,
lower and lower. And the big farmer can get away
with it because they think the puts the American consumer
will pay out landings prices for pharmaceuticals. And then you
got Medicare, Medicaid also, And the President said this morning

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he's going to tell the congressional leaders has scored differently
the prescriptive drug expenses paid for by Medicare and Medicaid. Now,
this may take three to six months. But for those
that are somewhat shall we say, not involved in this
or are thinking about other issues like do we have
enough Barbie dolls? I mean, if you're a six year
old girl of Barbie dolls important from China, I guess

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this is a national policy on drug costs with what
the real confidence do you think this is going to work?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I think that you know President's trend and executive order.
If you recall in the past, drug companies have sued
him when he tried this in his first term, and
we're successful at stopping him from doing it. But it's look,
it's an example of leadership calling to attention and America
first policy. Again, he's talking about giving America as good of.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
A deal as.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Canada and Germany, you know, not about as you said,
sub Saharan Africa. This is not about the lowest price.
This is just this is actually we want to pay
the highest price that everybody else pays. That's not exactly
a radical, crazy move by the president. It is it
is a common sense move by the President to say

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American consumers and taxpayers shouldn't be on the hook for
R and D for drug companies.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Around the globe.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
And we're going to see a lot of pushback from
from the companies in the court. But look, this is
it's time that we healthcare inflation is the highest of
any sector of the economy in the twenty first century,
and we've got to start pushing back on it. That's
what these conversations about medicaid have been about. How are
we going to control the prices that are un consumer

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and taxpayer.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, we can't keep doing this. Since twenty nineteen, uh,
the cost of medical care to the federal government's gone
up forty percent, and the last five years forty percent.
Do that another five years another forty percent. Hell, we're
out of business. Let's talk about the big bill.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Yeah, go ahead, thirty seven trillion dollar national debt. We're
paying over a trillion dollars a year in interest payments
on it. It's not sustainable. America needs to stop, you know,
financing the rest of the world. We need to be
treated fairly and we need to not pass on this debt.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
To future generations. That's generational theft bill and we shouldn't
stand for it.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
We'll talk about the big beautiful bill in a moment.
What about the China situation, The President said this morning
he has an agreement from the communist red Chinese to
quit killing about one hundred thousand Americans every year through
the precursors defense. Noel said, we're also to quit ripping
us off. Our products can't get there, but their products
get here. What's the key parts of the agreement?

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Now?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
I suppose with communists right China, who I trust as
far as I can throw them on the tariff relief
in order to let our products go into China and
Chinese products have to pay a price to come into America.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I have not had a chance to go through
all the details yet. Basically, there's a sort of a
ninety day pause.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
To continue to work on some of these agreements.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I think the top tariff rates now going to be
thirty percent for Chinese products coming into America. I think
it's ten percent for American products going into China.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
But this has been a long time in commune.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Since China entered the World Trade Organization in two thousand
and one, they've been ripping off not only America but
the rest of the world through unfair trade practices and
stealing our technology and American businesses. When I visit with them, Bill,
they say, yes, if you don't stand up for US
federal government, who will Because we have no recourse in
the Chinese courts the way that a Chinese company would

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in the American courts. They steal our stuff, we can't
do anything about it. And President Trump has come in
and said, hey, we're not going to tolerate it anymore.
No president before him was willing to stand up to them,
and it's time that we get this accomplished on behalf
of the American consumer and taxpayer.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
In the Senator used to the American business for that man,
American business. I watched the performances of Canadian Kevin o'larry
from Shark Tank about the amount of theft by the
communist red Chinese of American ideas, American personnel, American it.
The theft absolutely happening, and there's no recourse. Somebody can't

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go to a court in Beijing and sue for theft
of ip etc. But in America they're buying up farm
land all around our air force bases. It's got to stop.
And I think one thing, Senator is the communist red
Chinese and the Russians and the North Koreans wod like
to run out the clock. They're kind of hoping that

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the next president is going to be a printer and
they're just waiting to all right, quiet down, the American
people are gonna have mid term elections. You know, the
Chinese don't worry about mid term elections. Are you worried
about the idea between the media and the democratic establishment
and the Congress and minority leaders in both being Democrats,
that they're gonna The Chinese might say, let's run out

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the clock and see what happens.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Well, I think you're making an excellent point right there.
There's no doubt that China doesn't have to respond to
an electorate. They can take as long as they want
to negotiate.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
They can drag this out.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
This has been one of the problems that American presidents
have had in negotiating with these dictators in authoritarian governments
is that they can be there as long as they want.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
They don't have to cut a deal.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
We have to be answerable as public officials to the
American public and and that happens every two in four years.
So we've you know, we've got to we've got to
go quickly. That's why I think President's seeing a sense
of urgency on this. I want to say just a
couple of quick stories.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I'll use this one example.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
There was a there was a guy in Dover, Ohio
who said, Hey, I wanted to sell my products to
Asia that I wanted to sell. I'm selling them, I'm
making them in America, but I wanted to sell into Asia,
and I had to produce it in Asia. China had
me produce it there h to sell into China. And
then the next thing I know, a product that's exactly
like mine has been copied and it's being selled and

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sold in China and across Asia. He says, I have
no recourse. They just stole my product and now they're
making it there. Somebody needs to stand up for me.
That's the kind of stuff that this is about protecting
American businesses. Uh, standing up to the bullies who basically
China has said, hey, we're gonna we're gonna give we
want access to your markets.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
We're not going to give you access to our markets.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
We're going to steal your technology when we can uh,
and it's.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
Got to stop.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
And you're right, we can't let him run out the clock, though,
We've got to be forceful and get this done quickly.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Cenator. This is an important point that I think that
Trump's to address this morning. I had a friend of
mine who developed a new way to put water into
a mop and it was I forget the name of
the product. Six or seven years ago. He was able
to make this product in America for about twenty two
dollars a mop and sell it for forty nine to
ninety five at Target and some of the other stores,
and Chinese came to him. Instead of you spending twenty

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two dollars, how about you spending two dollars and we'll
produce the mop for two dollars and you still sell
it for forty nine to ninety five, and we will
finance a lot of your activities. My friend said, you
know what, that's a great idea. Instead of producing it
here at ten times the expense, I'll produce it in
China and then one after about six months, and then
producing it China went directly to the customers of my

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friend to sell them the mop and it got my
buddy out of the business completely, had a foul bankruptcy.
They stole the intellectual property. There was no way that
he could go to a Chinese court for redress. And
that's a small example what the communist red Chinese are doing.
And they do it to millions of products every day.
The undercut the market, capture it and then raise up

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the price to benefit them and not us. Is that
a good example.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
That is a perfect example, and it's unfortunately it's not
a rare example. This happens to people with ideas, manufacture,
small business owners. It has for twenty five years.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
It's time for it to stop.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Well, let's talk about that big beautiful bill that's going
to hopefully be passed. I know even John Fetterman has
a few lucid moments recently. Tell the American people. Senator
John houstaid, what's the two or three elements and the
big beautiful bill that you're going to vote for?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I hope, Well, I'm hopeful that we're going to get
it done. And why do we need to get it done?
Because it'll be over a four trillion dollar tax increase
on the American.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Public if we don't get it done.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's number one.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Number two, I'm hopeful that we're going to restore some
fiscal sanity to the spending problem that America has and
begin to move toward a more balanced budget. And then
I hope to do some good thing for Ohio in there,
like changing the way that our welfare system works to
require people to work in exchange for public benefits.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I hope that we can.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
End sugary snacks and drinks in our SNAP program that's
leading to obesity and higher health care costs, particularly among
the people who can lease afford it. So those are
the things that we need to do in the big
beautiful bill that I hope we can get past and
on the President's desk sometime soon.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
What if you don't, But what if somehow the red
Republican congressman went more salt state and local taxes deductions.
What if other Republicans say, well, we're not going to
increase the deficit borrowing by another five trillion dollars. There's
reasons to do it. You have a very thin majority
in both chambers. What happens to the taxpayer if it

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isn't passed.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
The taxes will go up on the American taxpayer by
four trillion dollars.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
That's why I think it'll get done.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Look, there'll be plenty of things in this bill I
won't like, but you know that you've got to look
at the big you know, the big picture here. Is
there going to be a lot more in it that
I liked and not like? Yes, of course there will be.
We can't let taxes go up on the American taxpayer
by four trillion dollars. We can't make American business less competitive,
we can't tax working families more.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
And so that's why we got to get it done.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And people will grumble and mumble, and they'll complain about
this or that and the other thing. But in the end,
you got to get the job done. And that means
sometimes you're going to have to swallow some vinegar with
your wine.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Are you endorsing on different matter? Are you endorsing viveg
Ramaswami for governor? You might know that on Friday you
received one hundred percent of the votes of the Ohio
Republican Executive Committee as an endorsement, and so did viveg Ramaswami.
I think got ninety five percent of the votes. Are
you going to support for veg Ramaswami Vak and I.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Have been working together very closely. I look forward to
running on the same ticket with him. I want him
to be very successful and I'm sure that over the
course of the next few months we'll have some things
to team up on and talk to the Ohio voters about.
So I'm excited to be on the same ticket with him,

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hopefully driving for more Republican victories in twenty twenty six
to keep this state on track, and to also make
you know, make sure that Donald Trump has a Republican
team to work with as we had beyond the twenty
twenty sixth elections.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And last, Lady Senator John Houstead of the Great State
of Ohio. Do you see this as a rebuke to
Governor Mike DeWine, who told his own executive committee not
to do this because his looks on explainers.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Look a people, this is we have disagreements. When you
are part of the majority, it's hard to keep everybody.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
At the same page.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I would say a majority is made up of many voices.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
If we want to be.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
A minority, we can all get along and never disagree.
But if we want to be in a majority, sometimes
we will disagree.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
But in the end we will come.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Together, we will unite, and we will win in twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
All right, once again, the Junior center from Ohio is
Senator John Houston. I'm glad you're with the President on
Friday because we can have to stop bearing all the
costs of prescriptive drugs and give it, give it away
to the rest of the world, and Trumpster can get
it done. Once again, Senator John Houston, welcome, Thank you
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Bill Cunningham Show, and

(16:37):
John you're a great American. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Thanks Bill.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Let's continue with more coming up my comments about the
new Pope and also about the big beautiful Bill, and
also the fact that if you buy prescriptive drugs and
great pharmacies like Adrian Pharmacy, the best in Madeira, that
somehow in the future you may pay less if the
Democratic Party and the court system allow it. Bill Cunningham
News Radio seven hundred WW All right now, Billy cunning

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Him the great American coming up after one o'clock. Today's
next from the Middle East to talk about what's happening there.
And after two o'clock Keith O'Brien will be here. Wrote
the book Charlie Hustle, which is the definitive work on
Pete Rose. He's back once again because of Wednesday night's
activities or replica Pete Rose Jersey. The only thing that
left are the ten dollars standing soro tickets. That's it.

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It's going to be thirty five to forty thousand people
to celebrate a baseball player who last played here almost
forty years ago. Pete And has lasted about in nineteen
eighty six, and of course he was the playing manager
for the Reds and from about February of eighty nine
until his death about six months ago. What a saga,

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the highest of highs, the lowest of lows, and Pete
Rose failed at all and went through it all. An
incredible story. And we're going to deal with that after
two o'clock today plus Tomorrow plus Monday, and most of
the crew is going to be at the Holy Grail
starting about three pm on Wednesday afternoon and also the
day that's when the NFL schedules released, So we got
all hell breaking loose on Wednesday. Hopefully the weather will

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submit and do what's necessary. We hope the weather complies
and has good weather, et cetera, which is more or
less predicted. But beginning after after two o'clock today, you
learn more about how would Pete Rose feel about this.
Pete Rose would be excited as could be. One of
his dreams was to have his casket at home plate

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and have Reds fans come by and celebrate his life.
Not more or less happened a few months back. It
was covered, but nonetheless, and now May fourteenth is there's
out number again, fourteen. Like Leo, the fourteenth is Wednesday night,
and it's rather ironic that the team they're playing is
the Chicago White Sox with the most famous player up

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to this point, Shueless Joe Jackson, band for so called
betting on baseball. When Shoeless Joe Jackson did not but
on baseball, and in fact he was indicted along with
the other White Sox by grand jury's in Cook County, Chicago,
and they were found not guilty. Then nonetheless, the commissioner
banned them for life, even though it was somewhat clear

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the shoeless Joe Jackson's behavior on the field was commensurate
with his skill set. He knew he had knowledge of
what was going on, but he played as hard as
he could be. He was indicted all kinds of charges
and found not guilty, but still got banned for life,
and he died a broken man in South Carolina. And
Pete Rose had opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to come clean.

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I know Marty Brennman talks about meetings with bud Sea
League and Joe Morgan, his best buddy on the team,
and Johnny Bench. They had a more or less a
deal worked out. Pete, you got to do this, Pete,
you got to do that, and Pete refused to do it.
And finally Pete wrote a book, but in fact he
admitted betting on baseball. And this saga, seemingly in my lifetime,
will never end. And I here we are twenty twenty five.

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I first met Pete in nineteen sixty three, and here
we are in twenty twenty five. I would not thought
that was possible, what sixty sixty two years later. And
I was honored to call him a friend for about
two years of that process, when Pete had me throwing
batting practice of the Reds pitchers and we played a
lot of softball together with the Gary Waits course all

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Stars and played basketball together, and I hired his family
members to work in my restaurants, and we went out together.
I stayed with him at planned City and his home,
and it was just I was just honored to be
a friend of Pete Rose. And over the last few
years I think has dissipated greatly. And then upon his
death it was just the time to reflect upon all

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the things that might have been, of all the words
of tongue or pen, the worst of these art might
have been. And in Pete Rose's life talk about the
highest of highs, the lowest the low's. There's a part
of Keith Bryn's book when in October of nineteen ninety
October nineteen nine, the Reds or had just swept the
unbeatable Oakland A's with the best team in baseball obviously

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was Oakland. The bast Brothers, et cetera, Stewart on the
mounted Eckersley had just a fabulous team, and the Reds
largely because of Jose blaming on Rijo and Billy Hatcher,
and of course of Barry Larkin, Todd Benzinger, Paul O'Neil,
Glenn Braggs, Eric Davis, beat four straight the Oakland A's

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and think of the moment. At that time in October
of nineteen ninety, Pete Rose was in a federal prison
in Illinois, kind of watching the game on a small
screen with other inmates in a federal prison. One could
not imagine from September the eleventh, nineteen eighty five, when

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he broke the all time hits record forty one ninety two,
finished up for forty two to fifty six, that that
guy at first base as March shot in the river
French Stadium is going absolutely bonkers and he's got tears
in his eye. And Pete comes out and Tommy Helms,
who just recently died number nineteen, did that that guy

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at first base getting a call from Ronald Reagan congratulating
him on breaking Ty Cobb's record nineteen eighty five in August,
that by October nineteen ninety he'd be sitting alone in
the dark in a federal prison in Illinois. Impossible can't happen,

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but it did. And this the tragic story of a
gambling addict that couldn't tell the truth until he was
paid to do so. When he wrote a book and
the most magnetic fun to be around. Take him, Joe Morgan,
Johnny Bench, Marty Brenneman. That the best there was and
that era is long gone. It's the golden age of baseball.

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Between nineteen seventy nine, the Reds played in twenty percent
of all the World Series in those twenty years. You
might recall in nineteen seventy they lost to Oakland. In
nineteen seventy two they lost to Baltimore. The Robinson Klan
beat them. Then they go back in seventy five, seventy six,

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beat Boston Red Sox, then they beat they sweep the
New York Yankees, the best team in baseball. Then they
go back in nineteen ninety and to winning. So Cincinnati
was the center of the baseball world, the dominant team
over those twenty years, with five World Series appearances and
three World Series titles, and they had the highest payroll

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in baseball. Like ninety two, ninety three, ninety four. Couldn't
get there, got closed, couldn't get there. Here we are
some thirty five years later. The Reds have not won
a playoff series in the last thirty years. Last one
in nineteen ninety five, the so called O. J. Simpson Series,
when the Reds beat up on the Dodgers and the

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golden age of baseball. Absolutely, absolutely, it was bigger than NFL,
bigger than the NBA or college football or basketball, and
it was Major League Baseball. And now things are fundamentally different.
So we will celebrate the memories that Pete Rose gave
us all fabulous memories, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

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For me watching Pete Rose and visiting him at a
half way house on Vine Street, the federal judge sentenced
them to prison. As if Pete Rose had to go
to prison for nine months, eight nine months, and then
he couldn't let him go, had to put him in
a half way house with other drug addicts and other derelics.
Half way house in Cincinnati, And I visited him there

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three or four times, and he gave me notes to
do call this person, take care of that was all
legal stuff. Can you hire family member? Absolutely and play
a lot of golf together and baseball together the course
all stars. I was honored to call him as my friend.
As the ears ears rolled by that we didn't see
each other a lot. One other sad moment, my wife

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and I are in Las Vegas, and I would think
about fifteen eighteen years ago, and I said, let's go
see Pete. He's on the sixth floor of this shopping mall,
a part of Caesar's Palace. So we finally find where
he is, outside of memorabilia store with a card table,
sitting there in this beautiful facility, and I said, let's

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sit here. We've sat about fifty feet away and just
watched Pete Rose signs up. Pete Rose signatures ten dollars,
signed jerseys, thirty five dollars, et cetera. We sat there
for ten to fifteen minutes and Pete Rose was on
his phone scrolling and nobody noticed he was there at all.
Walked by him and I said, you know, Penny, I

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just can't walk up to him. I just can't. It's
sad to watch that. The Guy in nineteen eighty five,
The Guy in nineteen sixty three took over from Don Blasingame.
The Guy seventy seventy two World Series, seventy five, seventy six,
seventy five MVP. Pete Rose beat the Red Sox, beat
the Yankees, and then his team, the Paul O'Neal team,

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the Barry Larkin team, the Jose Rio team, the Eric
Davis team, that team sweep the Oakland A's, and Pete
sitting in a federal prison in the dark, listening on
a transistor radio to Marty and Joe. You couldn't write
a script like that. So we'll celebrate the life and

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times of Peter Redward Rose one more time and Wednesday Night,
Holy Grail, et cetera, plus the release of the Bengals
schedule and more. I also would note that Leo the fourteenth,
there's that number again, is the new Pope. Could not
be more proud as a practicing Roman Catholic and as
an American. They have an American pope. There was one

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other pope who spoke English, we think a thousand years ago.
He's known as Pope Justinian from England. Of course, i'm
told to the way English was spoken a thousand years ago,
we wouldn't understand it. But nonetheless, it's been a thousand
years since the pope spoke of the English. And this
is by far the first American pope. And they spent

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his life in Chicago. And if you have time, google
of Pope Leo the fourteenth World Series two to five
twenty five, and there's one of those clips, and it's
in between pitches and the White Sox are beating up
on the Houston Astros, who at that point was in
the National League. And Fox Sports had an outcue of

(27:34):
a Chicago White Sox fan kind of with a cheering,
a happy look on his face, and he happened to
put on national television the face of Pope Leo the fourteenth.
How is that possible? It isn't possible, but it happened,
So if you google it. I've watched it several times.
I can't believe what I'm seeing. There is the future

(27:56):
Holy Father at a White Sox game, and the White
Sox won the World Series, and during one of their
outclips in between pitches, that there he is, and he's
being he's happy about his so called White Sox about
to win the World Series in twenty oh five, and

(28:16):
that team is in Cincinnati Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, which
is unbelievable. At that point, he was only a Catholic
priest in Peru. He came back here and there he
was simply father of Robert Privos and the Augustinian priest,
and the Augustinians are missionaries, so he requested assignment to

(28:38):
a poor country, and for about eighteen years he spent
his time in Peru, where he became close to the
leader of Argentinian Catholics. Out would have been to Francis
and about two years ago France has elevated him to
be a cardinal. Now that guy, the White Sox fan,
is the pope. He also loves the Philadelphia Eagles. Just

(29:00):
go at Villanova. Well, we got a pope from the
Big East, for God's sakes, first time in my life
I have a pope that's younger than me. So he's
a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles. What do they do?
They win the Super Bowl. So right now in America,
we have the the Olympics are coming to La, we

(29:22):
have the World Cup, we have the pope, and we
have Donald Trump make America great again. It's happening right
now now. I don't anticipate the media is going to
say it that way, but I just did. I'm damn
proud if I'm going to use the term damn to
celebrate the idea that America has a pope that's hopefully

(29:42):
you'll be in office the next twenty to twenty five
years and beyond incredible. Now, what kind of pope's he
going to be. I have no idea. A couple months ago,
Cardinal Robert Prevost said on X quote Jade Vance is wrong.
Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others,
quote unquote, and so JD. Vance said something you should

(30:03):
love your family first, and love your neighbors, love your friend,
you know, kind of prioritized. And Cardinal Prevost said, that's
the wrong approach. But on the other hand, Prevost now,
Leo the fourteenth is registered as a Republican voting absentee.
He's he voted in the Republican primary in twenty twelve.

(30:27):
I would assume he voted Republican. He took a Republican
absentee ballot, he voted Republican in Illinois absentee in twenty fourteen.
He voted in the twenty sixteen elections. He voted in
twenty twenty four He appears to be more of a
Bush Republican than a Trump Republican. But nonetheless, we got
one of our own in the Vatican and one of

(30:48):
our own in the White House, which is unbelievable. Of course,
the radical left is unhappy with any of this. This morning,
they were sucking on lemons All morning, as the President
ticked off the success within Yeah, in Pakistan, the American
hostage seemingly has been released, eating Alexander reporting on that
has occurred. We haven't seen him yet. I guess he's
in bad shape of this reporting he's out, But we

(31:11):
look at peace breaking out now in the Middle East.
We hope in Ukraine's meeting with Russia eyeball to eyeball
on Thursday, that the Left exists for one thing, one reason.
That's power. They're masters at deceiving people, and they think
they're going to lose a lot of their funding for
their pet projects and for their political activities because the
federal government, through USAID and through other grants, has funded

(31:35):
the Democratic Party for a long time. That's all stopping
right now. They can't even bring themselves to compliment the
President on lowering drug prices if permitted to do so
by the federal courts, because the federal courts are the
nearest thing God on earth. As a federal judge, they
think they're in charge of everything. So well, let's continue
with more. But once again, I honor Pete Rose for

(31:59):
all the good things that he's done in life and
in baseball enough for the worst things that he's done.
I will remember Pete Rose. Finally coming up after one
o'clock today will be Yuri Kaufman about college campuses exploding.
And after two o'clock is Keith O'Brien, author of Charlie Hussele,
The Defensive Definitive work on Pete Rose, No Reds Baseball Today,

(32:21):
back out at Tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, I'm Sorry Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday Businessman Special on Thursday. Wednesday's Pete Rose Night. It's ironic.
The White Sox are in town, the team of shoeless
Joe Jackson, Troll fifty five Home of Your Reds, Off
of today, back out of tomorrow, a couple of games
under five hundred. The two games better at this point

(32:42):
of the season now than they were a season ago.
Got to get the five hundred and beyond. They got
to start hitting the baseball at some point. Troll fifty
five Home of Your Reds, and Pete Rose News Radio
seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham, The Great America. And

(33:21):
two or three months ago we had on Yuri Kaufman,
who's written a book called American Intafada, Israel, the Gaza
war and the new anti Semitism, and he was such
a fabulous guest. So much is going on this week,
and I guess next week, and the President's going to
the Middle East. I guess the cutter and UAE into
Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. See what comes of that.

(33:41):
There's rumors he may head to Israel at some point.
I don't know, but the piece is breaking out everywhere.
And now I'm told that by Ambassador wit Cough so
to speak, that Iran is ready to make a deal.
I believe that when hell phrase is over and we
have complete splits on American campuses today most of the
graduations have taken place, and I kind of have two eyes.

(34:06):
I like to see what goes on before I say, boy,
this is wonderful what's happening in the world. But Uri Kaufman,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
let's deal first with what's happening in Gaza. And it
appears the President's going to be in the Middle East
in two or three days from now to try to
work out situation. Are you encouraged, discouraged or you kind

(34:27):
of have a wait and see attitude about what's happening.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Yeah, I'm going to go wait and see.

Speaker 8 (34:32):
It is a lot going on in a very short
period of time. Things have a way of changing very quickly.
People have a way of planting stories that are frankly false.
There's actually a bit of a scandal going on right
now in Israel. It's called cut our Gate, as in Watergate,
only with Cutter, because it turned out that Cutter was
paying people to plant stories Israeli media that were completely false,

(34:55):
and one of them was actually dangerous. One of the
stories they planted was that Egypt was massing an army
on Israel's border, perhaps with hostile intent. None of it
was true. Why they would do something so crazy is
beyond me. But the point is there's a lot of
information flying around in Israel right now, and it's really
hard to say what's true and what's fault. I will

(35:17):
say this though, Ambassador Hu could be probably one of
the finest ambassadors we have working for US right now.
Obviously an outstanding governor, was a major candidate for president.
Came in second place back in eighty one eight states
in the primaries, lost to John McCain. No shame in that,
and he said there's no break at all between President
Trump and pre Minister at Yo. So I'll go with

(35:38):
that as reliable as they come.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
And in a free, open society, of course, Cuttergate is available.
And what the media in this country plays up loudly
is the fact that there's part of Israeli society that
thinks the Israeli armies should get the hell out of Gaza,
give it back over to Hamas, get the hostages home.
It's a great thing that the last American hostage is
going to be released soon, if not been released already,

(36:02):
and eating Alexander, and that's a good thing. But so
you're saying from Israeli media, and I was there a
couple of years ago. I loved my visit to Israel.
I love what I was seeing as a practicing Roman Catholic,
I love the new Pope, etc. However, you take it
with a grain of salt. If there was an Israeli
real public relation pool about whether or not ten thousand

(36:25):
more of the IDF reserves should be called up to
have the final solutions, so to speak, in Goza, to
clean it out of a moss, what would the vote
PSA the great majority of Israelis know what's at stake here.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
Oh, absolutely, Now I understand is it's a democracy. And
what happened in America in World War Two, where the
public rallied completely behind a war effort for the entire duration.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Of the war. That was a one off.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
Every war that America has ever fought in its history
had its anti war faction had its controversy, whether it
was the Civil War, it's the Revolutionary War. I mean,
imagine protesting against George Washington. Well, there was a faction
that did. I don't have to tell you what went
on during Vietnam or career. That's the typical in a democracy,
people are going to have different points of view. Israel

(37:14):
is no different from us. Now, what the people who
are anti war, though, are saying is downright silly. What
they're saying is as follows. They're not saying they want
to leave themas in power. They understand what that means.
It means go home and prepare the eight nine year
olds for the next night, October seventh attack. What the
people are saying is simply this, let's get the hostages back,

(37:36):
let's sign a ceasefire agreement, and then we'll wait for
Hamas to make one little misstep and violate the ceasefire,
and then we'll go in and destroy Kamas. Now that
logic is downright ridiculous. Benjamin and Yo heard it from
his head of the shin Bet, and he frankly blew
up and he said, you're an idiot.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
And he's right.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
It's a ridiculous thing to think that the international community
is going to sit back and let Israel do something
like that. The Maas has said the only way they
will agree to such a ceasefire is if it is
guaranteed by America, Russia, Turkey, the European Union, in China,
a UN.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Security Council resolution. I mean the idea that is that would.

Speaker 8 (38:19):
Just be able over some infraction to ignore that and
go back in the later.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
It's just flat out ridiculous.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
So I would take all this with a grain of salt.
The Israeli public is solidly behind the war goals.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
The Maas has.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
Simply got to go otherwise, we're just going to be
doing this again and again and again forever.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
And I would note you're a Kaufman that repeatedly there's
been Palestinians themselves that have said, even they can't take
Hamas anymore, and when someone surfaces, they're beheaded. And the
Palestinian Arab suffering is caused by Hamas and by Iran indirectly.
It's not about hamas, about building schools and hospitals and

(38:57):
bridges and factories. It's not about infra structure, not about
creating jobs or nurturing a culture, or volunteerism or advancing education.
It's all about using the billions and billions of dollars
given to so called Gaza over the past several years,
beginning at least twenty oh five, twenty years when Israeli
pulled out. It's all about one thing, which is killing

(39:18):
the jew wherever they might be located, in killing Americans,
and that's not going to change, which brings me to
my second part. Right now, we're told that Iran is
on the verge of peace and it's going to get
rid of their nuclear bomb nuclear missile technology. I believe
that when Hell Freeze is over, and I hope we're
not suckered into Iran once again to believing they want peace.

(39:39):
They don't need nuclear power in Iran for electricity. They
have the cheapest electricity right now. In the Middle East.
It's almost free. They want to get these nuclear centrifugures
up to weapons great, and they want to use it
and marry it with a missile and destroy Israel. Am
I right or wrong?

Speaker 8 (39:56):
Well, you're hundred percent right, And you know the proof
is really very very simple. The administration is said, if Iran,
for some bizarre reason wants a civilian nuclear program, they
can have a civilian nuclear program. It's like twenty countries
that do. And the way it's done is real simple.
They import the nuclear fuel into those countries. It's at

(40:17):
a three and a half percent enrichment level, which is
well below what you can use.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
In a weapon.

Speaker 8 (40:23):
You can use it for civilian purposes, you can use
it in a power plant, you can use it for
nuclear medicine, but you can't use it at three and
a half percent for a bomb. For that and you
close it a ninety percent. So what they do is
they import the three and a half percent enriched uranium
into those countries, then they take back the spent fuel.
It's a great system. It's been around for decades, it
works really well. It's been offered to Iran, and of

(40:45):
course Iron keeps saying well, no, we don't want that.
We want to enrich uranum. Well, the minute they say
they want to enrich uranium is only one reason why
anyone would want to do that. So it's pretty obvious
you know where they're where they're pointed, and you know
this is not a normal country like Russia, like a
China that could be deterred these guys. If we've learned
one thing from the October seven attack, it's that they

(41:06):
don't think the way we do. And their leaders have
been saying outwardly, look why you know, raise our kids,
educate them. We don't want that. We just want to
kill the Jews. We just want to create a caliphate.
And that is what Ayatolakomami said when he was alive.
He used to say the revolution was not about water,
the price of watermelons. But by that he met My

(41:27):
job is not to produce a better economy, job the
things that you and I take for granted from our government,
he said. Our job is to spread Islam, radical Islam.
Our job is to create a caliphate. Having a nuclear
weapon and hands like that makes a very very dangerous world.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
They're not just for Israel, but really for everybody.

Speaker 8 (41:46):
So I could just go back to Gaza for a second.
I would just point out one thing. They constantly go
on television, people who are sympathetic to the Palestinians and
the Palestinians themselves, and they talk.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
About the suffering in Gaza.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
And I have to say, all of it is true,
all of it is heartbreaking. But there's a real, real
simple response.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
If it's so terrible, why don't you just make peace?

Speaker 8 (42:08):
Why don't you just recognize israel so called right to exist?
Why don't you just agree to the two state solution,
which Israel and Benjamin and you know.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Agreed two decades ago.

Speaker 8 (42:19):
And you know, I watch other media, and particular liberal media,
legacy media, and this goes.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
On and on and on, and they go on and
on about.

Speaker 8 (42:27):
How they're suffering, and it never even occurs to anybody.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Just ask that simple question, Well, if it's.

Speaker 8 (42:32):
So terrible, why don't you just end it? Why don't
you just sign a peace treating? What is stopping you?
The thing to always remember is Israel is not waging
war against Gaza.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Gaza is waging.

Speaker 8 (42:44):
War against Israel. That's the core problem.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Jerry Kaufman, This could end tomorrow, the next day, surrender,
Amasa is lost, put down your weapons, invite the Israelis in,
release the hostages, and let's talk about riek instruction whatever
they might be. But whether it's Hamas or has blap oko, haram,
just Taliban, just is whatever term you want to use.

(43:08):
It's a culture of death. It's not a culture of life.
Even the German Nazi soldiers wanted to live, the Russian
soldiers after World War Two, they wanted to live. But
the goal of these Islamic extreme groups is to die.
Their purpose is not to build schools and a nurture
and culture or like they're channeling their fury against Israel.

(43:29):
And they've been given the opportunity countless times, and they've
balked every time, using the billions in order to reward
suicide bombers, giving stipends and naming streets and parks after
those who murder innocent men, women and children, and they
doctrinate their own children with the hatred, hatred of the
Jew in the Western culture. And this isn't a way

(43:49):
to build a nation, it's a way. It's a suicide cult.
And our media and those ridiculous students at Columbia and
at Harvard and Yale and all over the country, the
University of Washington. They're paid for their bought and paid
for an event. Don't like it here, get the hell out.
But the point is it's a culture of death. And
until Iran and Hamas says, you know, we're done, We're

(44:12):
not going to build any more bombs and missiles. All
this aid we're going to use to feed our own people.
Those responsible in Gaza for the suffering of those millions
of Gozin's about two million is Hamas and Iran they're
the ones responsible.

Speaker 8 (44:27):
Oh absolutely. And you know, we're in a unique moment.
We're in a moment now where there's been this hideous war.
It's gone on for about a year and a half.
Israel is very very very close to getting rid of Kamas.
We're already seeing protests in Gaza. We're seeing Kamas murdering
its own people to stay in power. They've been shooting
people in the streets. There was one guy, a prominent guy,

(44:47):
who was caught on camera. They caught him, they tortured
him to death. The family then retaliated against Kamas. They
killed two Kamas guys. So you know, things are happening there.
Where Hamas is already is grip on power is starting
to teet. And now think of it this way. Imagine
we're closing in on Berlin. We've had this horrible, hideous war,
we're about to win, and then someone says, well, oh, no,

(45:09):
we need to stop because of the innocent German civilians
and all the suffering.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
So let's have a ceasefire. Let's leave the Nazis in power.

Speaker 8 (45:16):
We know they're going to reconstant, you know they're going
to attack us again, but you know we can't finish
the job because of the innocent German civilians and all
the suffering they've been It's ridiculous. This logic has never
been employed in any conflict in the history of the
world against anyone except for Israel. And so the question
I think that I say the people in legacy media

(45:37):
propagating this have to ask themselves is why is Israel different?
Why is this the only war in the history of
the world where country A invades country B and when
country B is about to win, we so, no, no,
you how to stop because you know the people of
country A are suffering when they could just sign a
peace treaty. There's just no reason for any of this

(45:58):
to go on, And all it does is leave the
Islamo Nazis in power, league Clamas in power and prepare
us for the next round.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
It's really just a sad, sad story.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Can you address yourself briefly to what's happening on college campuses?
Graduation proceedings are happening everywhere. I think Columbia is having
one in a couple of days here they may have
to shut it down. What's happening to the several thousand
seemingly students a University of Washington or Columbia, University of
Chicago that are Hamas chapters and they're in a sense

(46:30):
permitted to run wild. Who's paying him? Do they believe
the crap coming out of their mouth? That stinks? What
is happening to college campuses? Uriy Kaufman.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
It's a good question. So guy named Mark Kolakoff looked
at this and what he found was this is more
a phenomenon of elite universities than ordinary universities like the
one I went to.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
I went to a city.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
College at night. They don't have any trouble there.

Speaker 8 (46:53):
It's primarily a problem of our elite colleges of Harvard
of Columbia places like that. Some say it's because Qatar
has poured billions of dollars into those universities and they've
used that money to indoctrinate students. I myself am not
a big fan of that theory. I mean, I think
that certainly is a problem, and I think that's something

(47:15):
we ought to look at and whether we want to
allow that to go on. I think it just has
more to do with the fact that these are schools that, look,
they tilt left. We all know that, and I think
we're in a moment culturally where look, as I've said
many times, let's just do a simple thought experiment. Let's
assume argument's sake, every fact of the October seven attack

(47:35):
happened exactly the way it did.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Let's just change one fact.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
So, just to go a little quick recap, twelve hundred
people murdered, many many women raped. It enjoyed universal support
among the public. The Palestinian public regularly refer to us
as apes and pigs. You don't believe me, go on
Google type and use apes and pigs. And then one
final fact. The Biden administration budgeted billions of dollars for
Gaza what they would term the innocent civilians. Okay, let's

(48:02):
assume all that happened, but the attackers were Germans or
Ukrainians or white stuff Africas, in other words, white people
who said Jews are apes and picks. Do you really
think Biden would have given them billions? And now let's
hold the thought for a moment again, stay with me
on this thought experiment in this parallel universe. Again, white
supremacists not Arab supremacists, right, but they murdered twelve hundred

(48:26):
black people, and they rape black women and it enjoys
universal support. And then a Republican administration says, We're going
to give billions of dollars of a to the innocent
white supremacist civilians. The white supremacists who say at Blacks
are apes and pigs, they'd be rioting in the streets.
In other words, what we have here is a classic
case of cognitive dissonance in the elite universities. They've been

(48:49):
indoctrinated to fight for people of color in every circumstance. Now,
the problem is that makes no sense in this fact
pattern with Israel and the Palestinians. So then they changed
the facts to fit the narrative. And that is why
right after the October seven attack, Barack Obama tweeted that
we have to face facts. It's unclean hands on both

(49:09):
sides because he termed the unbearable occupation. Well, there was
no occupation ISRAELI withdrawn eighteen years before.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Just made it up.

Speaker 8 (49:18):
The New York Times makes up stuff about Israel all
the time. It all falls into the same narrative because
they want to back people of color against what they
perceive as a white group of privileged, the Jews, and
so they change facts to fit that narrative.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well, highly educated, generally white females. I think at a
Columbia eighty percent were highly educated white females that are
at the forefront of this too. I guess they make
their Misrael lives seem relevant. But the name of the
book is American Intafauna, Israel, the Gaza War, and the
new anti Semitism. I didn't think Columbia University itself in

(49:53):
New York City whatever be declared to be antisemitic, but
clearly it is. It's elite universities, not the trad schools. Uh,
that's not the case. Not every university's the elite telling
us how to behave, how to think. Once again, you're
a coffin. Let's keep the lines of communication open. You're
a great American. And thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. And the truth will set us all free.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Thank you, Yuri, it will, And thanks for having me.
It's always just so great to be here.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
God bless you. Thank you. Let's continue with more. There
it is, and uh, this week's going to be consequential. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
We'll see what happens. And thank god we have the
right guy in the in the White House right now.
Bill Cunningham on seven hundred W L W H Pete Rose.
What a man really want from? Enough to shape, Not
fancy perfume, fancy battle dot, fancy prices. No, a man

(50:43):
wants to smell like a man. That's something he wants
to be who every friends, That's something about a man
wants to feel like a man.

Speaker 9 (51:02):
Man. Hello, Hello, Piet and I'm Skulls.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
No segment of the man's got to smell like a man,
that's for sure, Willie Wednesday night, it all happens. I
have Keith O'Brien coming up in about fifteen twenty minutes
wrote the defenditive book on Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle, The
Life and Times of Pete Rose during the Golden Age
of Baseball between nineteen seventy and nineteen ninety. That was
the golden age of baseball. Would you agree? Amen to that? Baby?

(51:38):
Think of the stars in the game and things are
different today now now I don't know what it is.

Speaker 10 (51:44):
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Speaker 1 (52:22):
But ke let me put the finger on when I
see some of the problems with the Reds. Are you ready?
Go ahead? Matt McClain hitting one sixty five, Jake Fraley
two to oh five, Freedom not Bad two seventy six,
Spencer Steer one eighty eight. Uh, you got Blake Dunn
one point fifty, Rhyese Hines two hundred, Gavin Lux two

(52:46):
eighty not bad, Todler Stevenson two thirty three, Will Benson
zero nine to one. Can you smell what I'm cooking?
They're not hitting the ball, you know what I'm saying, or.

Speaker 10 (52:56):
Not, whether they're striking out like at least at ten
times a game. Uh, they're shut out for a seventh
time already this season. Uh, they're they're gonna be close
to the White Sox mark of last year.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Pretty the where they're going, well, they're gonna end up
with thirty shutouts, which is set a record.

Speaker 10 (53:12):
I mean, the the the road trip was a disaster.
That guy ron at Ron L. Blanco rolled up eleven
strikeouts yesterday and now the and Terry Francota says, flush it,
regroup today, come back and start winning tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
And who do the Reds play Wednesday night? The Chicago
White Sox, the home of shoeless Joe Jackson, correct and
Andrew bet attendee.

Speaker 10 (53:38):
Well, apparently Willy he's on the i L with a
calf injury. Not sure, not sure if he's I think
he's about halfway through. Of course the i L stint,
so I'm not sure mister Andrew will be playing.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I taught about a hit. Uh let's see what let's see?

Speaker 9 (53:52):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (53:52):
All, there is a report from the Florence Freedom today
that one of their pitchers, Bo Blanchard, has been signed
by the Reds.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Get somebody in here. How about that guy from all
Or High School? Who Brett Souter? No, the guy who
pitches the quarterback? What's his name.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
Was?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Yoh? Yeah? How about yeah? Put him in?

Speaker 8 (54:13):
Why?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
How about putting him in?

Speaker 10 (54:16):
The USCAA baseball World Series is underway. Willie and Penn
State Skyckel edging out Miami Middletown today in eleven innings,
nine to eight. So Miami Middletown will played tomorrow at
ten am in a loser's bracket game.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 10 (54:33):
Longtime Jack Sendell baseball coach David Bradshaw won his five
hundred and fiftieth game when the Eagles beat Southwestern a
Hanover Friday night in an upset. Coach Bradshaw has been
going at it since nineteen ninety five. He played in
the Montreal Expos organization and he's thirty fifth on Indiana's

(54:54):
all time win list.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
So congratulations to coach Bradshaw. How about this? The man
accused of killing Larry Henderson with a car is suing
Cincinnati Police and Hamlet County Sheriff's department over his treatment
by police after his arrest. The lawsuit, filed today in

(55:17):
federal court, claims that authorities violated the murderers due process rights,
used excessive force, conspired to interfere with the civil rights,
and falsely imprisoned him. He was the one taken out
of the car that he used to kill the police officer.
He's now suing hamlin A County. Andy Beck, the lawyer

(55:41):
that filed this lawsuit, assuming the lawyers involved, should have
his license pulled.

Speaker 10 (55:47):
Willie Trey Hendrickson released a statement to ESPN today. No
communication has taken place between his camp and the organization
post NFL draft.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
The team is no longer communicating with him.

Speaker 10 (56:01):
Oh it's hard to reach a resolution when there's no discussion.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying. Seg Man.
The murderer I know where you're coming from, says that
he was intimidated when deputies lined up behind him during
his May third arrayment in Hamley County Municipal Court. Quote.
No reasonable law enforcement agency would subject a pre trial
defendant to this level of humiliation, psychological warfare, and a

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coordinated plan to discriminate and punish him, intimidate the murderer.

Speaker 10 (56:35):
They were showing support for the for the for Larry Henderson,
and that's intimidation.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Yes, that's America. Well they did this wrong, said Antoinette Holloway,
who filed the complaint on Hinton's behalf boy Antoinette Holiday.
I assume she's an attorney. She claims her murderer client
was intimidated. Also, Willie, it looks like, let's see.

Speaker 10 (57:04):
The National Football League announced this morning the opening game
of the season Thursday night, September fourth, with Chris Collinsworth.
It'll be Dallas at the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Eagles number one fan is Leo the fourteenth. There's that
number again. Now he's an Eagles fan. I thought he
was a White Sox. Both the video of the Pope
five World Series.

Speaker 10 (57:31):
Yeah, I know it's unbelievable. There is show you on TV.
It's like, Oh, there he is. He's a pope, he
was an archbishop. Then a Spanish newspaper there's a rumors
going around tomorrow the National Football League will be will
be announcing the international games.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Whoa so?

Speaker 10 (57:50):
But this Spanish newspaper there were there was speculation running
rampant throughout the pro football ranks that the Bengals would
be playing the Dolphins in Spain. That's how you're saying, Madrid,
that's what you're saying. Mentioned back in March.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
That's what you're saying.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
Well, I'm just reporting what they're saying. What are they
saying now? This Spanish newspaper says, hold on their wise, gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
What is it?

Speaker 10 (58:11):
Pair appears that the Washington Commanders are now going to
play Miami on November the sixteenth. That means maybe the
Bengals will be playing Thanksgiving or Christmas maybe or maybe
another international game.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Who knows. The murderer, I won't mention his name is
seeking damages and attorney themes for being intimidated, Oh boy,
during his arraignment. Does it ever end?

Speaker 10 (58:41):
NCAA Golf Regional Willy right now in Urbana, Illinois u
ses Ryan Ford is third, tied for third at three under.
A couple of Wright State gentlemen, Andrew Flynn and Shane
Ocha are tied for eleventh at minus one. Dayton ben
Core's is one over. They're they're they're playing as individuals.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
By the way, Jeff Beckham, my friend, the brother of
David Beckham, the soccer star. Yeah, had a hole in
one today at four Bridges. How about that, Jeff Beckham?
How about gratulations? How about this text? Tell seig to
get his head out of his ass. They're the Florence Yawls,
not the Lawrence Freedom. Oh sorry, what is wrong with

(59:25):
what that is? From your buddy the wild Man? Tell
me what is wrong with seg Man? Would you care
to comment to the wild Man?

Speaker 6 (59:32):
Lee?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
I'm men Leal like him, kind of like the murderer
who's suing the sheriff's department for intimidation. Yeah, let's see
what else?

Speaker 10 (59:42):
Oh Wrestling News Pro Wrestling or Terry Brunk, known to
wrestling fans as Sabou, has passed away at age sixty.
He made himself a He made a name for himself
an the e CW in nineteen nineties, a two time
ec WH champion was a big favorite of Kid Chris,

(01:00:02):
and he was known for being He was known for
being in matches involving barbed wire, chains and tables.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
That's my kind of guy there. And his uncle was
the chic. Really yes, wow, going back in time, a
bit so excited to get his head out of his ass. No,
the Florence jawls, not the Florence Freedom says, what is
wrong with him? Would you go to comment on that one?
Not publicly? No, not publicly? Right here, you're number one

(01:00:33):
whoever did that one? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:00:35):
Also, Willie, we want to say congrats to one of
our own, Brian super Combs and his partner Adam Cornett.
Brian Combs and Adam Cornette teamed up this past weekend
and the men's doubles finished second overall in the forty
plus division of the Classic Classic Pickleball Tournament held at Sawyer.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Part pretty well, didn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
So?

Speaker 10 (01:00:59):
Brian Combs and Adam Cornett second overall in the forty
plus men's doubles.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Congrats and pickleball. I want to know, seg Man, we
have about a minute remaining. Then I got the definitive
work on Peter Edward Rose coming up in about ten
minutes from Keith O'Brien. Yeah, did Pete Rose ever give
you a shower? Just say yes or no?

Speaker 9 (01:01:24):
No, Sem Dennison is the last man I gave a
shower to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
That is are you calling Pete Rose a liar? That
is AI?

Speaker 11 (01:01:32):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:01:33):
I didn't have AI twenty years ago? Oh six, we
say nineteen years ago. I was in the room when
they when they edited that, did you? I was in
the room when they edited that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Did Pete Man?

Speaker 9 (01:01:46):
Dennison is the last man I gave a shower too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I'm just saying, are you calling him a liar? And
it's not the AI? It didn't exist. No, because I
don't want wild Man texting you idiots? Sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:01:59):
I mean, you know, only one guy doesn't make any
mistakes like him. He must be the Sportsman's Almighty, because
there's only one Almighty that doesn't make any mistakes.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
The second almighty's in the Vatican right now. Bingo, Hey,
how about this one? Give seg hell nice to see
you too. They're in his sake. Yeah, you got fans on,
Well why do you call such anger? People just don't
like it? Because I want people to listen, how about
Sarah Least too? What about how about kid Rock? How
about Kid Chris Kid Rock? How about what's he on?

(01:02:32):
He's on? He's introducing Trump? Oh, I thought he's he
was on fifteen thirty down and dirty. Say get me
out of the student's report.

Speaker 10 (01:02:40):
Pleon honor of a rainy day coming up here in
the Tri State, would you give Pete Rose a shower?
We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
We'll see what there's severe constitutional issues here.

Speaker 12 (01:02:53):
There are cases that say you can't do this, and
we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Justice Joe calls in with a comment, Wow, the defamation
lawsuit against that just hit the inquiry. Yeah, good night, Irene. Oh,
I got some's neck now here. I got some comment
about you and Rob Butcher. I can't say on the air.
I'll show it to you on seven hundred WLD Billy

(01:03:28):
Cunning in the Great American, of course, the definitive work
on the Pete Rose is entitled Charlie Hustle The Rise
and Fall of Pete Rose in the Last Glory Days
of Baseball, came out about a year ago, of course,
written by the bio for Pete Rose. Cincinnati and Keith O'Brien,
the New York Times bestselling author. It is the definitive
work on Pete Rose start to finish, and once again,

(01:03:50):
Keith O'Brien, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And one
of the terms you use in your book title the
Last Glory Days of Baseball, And I have a sense
you're right, because between nineteen seventy and nineteen ninety that
they were like twenty World Series and the Reds were
in five of the twenty, twenty percent more than any

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other team, and they won three of them. After nineteen
ninety things changed fundamentally. Why did you use the term
the last glory days of baseball?

Speaker 11 (01:04:23):
It's a great question. Bill, Good to be back with you. You know,
in the time that Pete Rose was in professional baseball,
everything changes. It's a stunning period of time. If you
think about it. Rose is a rookie in the minors
in nineteen sixty and of course he's banned from baseball
in the summer of nineteen eighty nine. That's thirty seasons

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of professional baseball, and you know, everything shifts in that time,
and really what it comes down to is money. You know,
the dawn of the free agency era fundamentally changes the
play years, it changes the teams, it changes the sports,
and the lack of a salary cap structure in baseball

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has created this this ecosystem where there are essentially two
kinds of teams. There are the halves, the teams with
the money, the teams with the big lucrative local television contract,
and then there are the have nots. And that makes
it incredibly for small market teams like the Reds to compete.

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In order in order to compete these days, small market
teams basically have to get everything right. They have to
be perfect. Yeah, and it's very hard to do well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
The other thing about this Pete Rose began with Fred
Hutchinson and Don blasting Game and Frank Robinson. My favorite
player was Veda Pinson number twenty eight. It was a
different error completely in which the players had to get
off season jobs to make ends meet. I can recall
but Red's baseball players selling cars and working in clothing

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stores and being roasted agents. And in Pete Rose's case,
he was one of our own improbable. What was the
lowest moment of Pete Rose's life? I suspect I know
the answer, because I was with him for a few
of those moments myself. What do you say, Keith O'Brien,
was the lowest moment of Pete Rose's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Life before his banishment? You mean before?

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Yes, before.

Speaker 11 (01:06:34):
I think if Pete were alive, the answer that he
would give to that question, Bill is that it was
the death of his father in December nineteen seventy. His father,
Harry Francis Rose, a better known on the West Side
as Big Pete's you know, his father, you know, was
a difficult man. He was a hard charging man. He

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demanded a lot from his oldest son, little pet He
really wanted him to be a successful athlete. It was
very important to Harry Francis Rose that little Pete could
be good at sports. And I think that took a
toll on Pete. But he never acknowledged that, you know.
He he said he worshiped his father and certainly he

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did want to please him. And I think it's notable
that he often mentioned his father when telling his story.
You know, he said that's one reason why he slammed
into Ray Fosse in the nineteen seventy All Star Game
at home plate in the bottom of the twelfth ning

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was that his father was sitting right there behind home plate,
and he he didn't want to play soft with his
dad there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:07:49):
He also said later believes again this is Pete's belief,
not mine, necessarily, and he believes that he would not
have bet on baseball his father had still been alive,
because his father never tolerated that kind of behavior. Now,
you know, I personally think Bill that Pete suffered from

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gambling addiction, yep. And addicts don't make rafal choices. We
all know that they don't make rational choices. Again and again,
they make choices that hurt themselves and hurt others face
of all the evidence suggesting that they should not be
making those choices. And so I tend to believe that
Pete would have made the wrong choices anyway. But that's

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how Pete felt about his father.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
He had that in him. He was just like an
alcoholic or somebody that's a drug addict. Pete Rose was
a gambling addict. That was the soft side of the
side of this great man. Let's go through nineteen eighty
nine when he met with Pete. Youberroth, he left the
Red as a manager for a little bit of time,
went to New York, met with him, explained what happened

(01:08:57):
in that meeting, and that was a critical moment that
Pete he mismanaged completely.

Speaker 11 (01:09:02):
Absolutely. It's late February nineteen eighty nine. Spring training has
just begun the day before, and Rose is summoned for
a secret meeting in New York City in the front
office of Major League Baseball with outgoing Commissioner Peter Ubroth,
incoming commissioner and then president of the National League Barchiamatti,

(01:09:24):
and Barchiamadi's right hand man Fai Incense, the deputy commissioner
at the time, about you know later will become commissioner himself,
and you know, they want to have him to New
York Pete Rose to ask him a simple question. They
have heard through the rumor mill in New York City
that Sports Illustrated is investigating a story gambled on baseball,

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and they want to ask him, point blank, has he
done it? And they have cordial meeting again secret at
the time. They ask him that and Rose flatly denies it.
And I think there's two interesting things about that answer.
The first is the men in the room that day

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believe him. You broth Giamadi and fath Ins and who,
by the way, had never met Rose before until that day.
Believe Pete Rose. You know, as Rose says that day,
you know, I wouldn't be that stupid to bet on baseball,
And of course why would he write. But with sports electrically,
they know you. They can't take his word. No, they

(01:10:32):
have to investigate it themselves, and that's when they hire
John Dowd. And you know what I can tell you
about that meeting is that if Rose had been honest
that day, Bill, if he had simply told them the truth,
which is he couldn't stop gambling and he had started
betting on baseball, I believe that Major League Baseball would

(01:10:52):
have done everything it could have to salvage Pete Rose.
And I don't mean to suggest that he wouldn't have
been playing. I don't suggest that he wouldn't have been banned.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
But I do not.

Speaker 11 (01:11:05):
That if we'd have been honest and had told him
that he had this sickness, he had this illness he
could not stop. I do not believe it would be
the kind of banishment, the kind of punishment that we'd
still be talking about thirty six years later.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
What was a low point after the August eighty nine
banishment for Pete Rose, when he hit rock bottom.

Speaker 11 (01:11:26):
Wow, I mean so many, so many rock bottoms come
after nineteen eighty nine, you know, as a Cincinnatian and
as a Red fan, and as someone who sat with
Pete Rose and interviewed him and talked to him about
that time in his life. To me, the most haunting
moment Bill is October nineteen ninety. It's one year later,

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and any Red fan knows what happens in October nineteen ninety.
That's when Cincinnati Red won the World Series, swept the
Oakland A's and one of the greatest upsets of the
life last fifty years. And you know that team was
primarily the same roster as it had been the year before,
with just a few exceptions. That was Pete Rose's team.

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And where is Rose on that night, you know, in
October nineteen eighty, nineteen ninety, when they win the World Series,
he is sitting in a federal prison in Marion, Illinois,
watching that game on a small television and a communal
room with a brother federal convicts. And Rose goes back

(01:12:34):
to his dorm room that night, a big room with
lots of bunk beds, and just imagining Pete Rose laying
there in the dark of that room for me is haunting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
And then he gets out, goes to a halfway house
fourteenth and Vine. I visited him there several times and
watched Pete Rose. That was my boyhood hero. Everybody he
wanted to be Pete Rose. He's had a cot. There's
four or five other people in a room. For some reason,
the federal judge put him into a halfway house, as

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if Pete Rose had to be acclimated back into the
reality of life. People stealing his stuff and signing autographs,
which was illegal at the bottom of the bottom of
the bottom, and his gambling continued. And after that when
he got out, he kept gambling on baseball and other sports.
How would Pete react to what's going to happen Wednesday night?

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How would Pete Rose, looking down, I pray from heaven,
would look sold out? Hadn't played baseball with the Reds
for almost forty years. His last about was in nineteen
eighty six. It's been thirty nine years, and here you
sell out the Great American Ballpark standing room tickets only
there's going to be a celebration to Pete Rose with
his family and all the clips. How would Pete react

(01:13:51):
to that?

Speaker 11 (01:13:53):
You know, Cincinnati always meant a lot of pose, you know,
and so this game night and this crowd in this
moment would have meant a lot to heros. You know,
he interestingly has scripted from beyond a lot of the
things that have happened.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
In recent months.

Speaker 11 (01:14:14):
You know, he told me when I was reporting my book,
Charlie Hustle, he told me that, you know, when he died,
he wanted to be laid out in States at Great
American Ballpark, laid out in the casket there. It seemed
implausible when he told me that back in twenty twenty one,
that's exactly what happened. Of course, last fall he told

(01:14:37):
me too that he believed that when he died, major
League Baseball may reinstate him, that they may do it posthumously. Right,
he predicted that and was fairly bitter about that too, Bill.
You know, he it hurt him again something he he

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would not admit to, but it hurt him that he
lost the last thirty five years of his life, you know,
in the hinterlands of the sport that he loved and
it heard him to know that he may be possumously
placed back on Baseball's to the lists. But of course,

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I mean, you know, this was a situation that Rose
made for himself. You know, we talked about that moment
in February nineteen eighty nine, were based on my reporting,
things would have been differently. It would have gone differently
if he had told the truth. There are several other
moments that come after that where the same thing is true.

(01:15:44):
You know, Rose will meet with Dowd in a for
a secret deposition later that spring where for two full days.
If Rose was honest, then it's different. You know, at
his banishments, with his banish in late August nineteen eighty nine,
there was another chance for him to get right Bargie

(01:16:06):
and Maadi the truth. He couldn't do it. And these decisions,
you know, ultimately are what put Rose in the position
that he was in for the last thirty five year life.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
And then at the end there was an occasion with
Joe Morgan and Johnny Bench and others who had Bud
Seeley in like two thousand, nineteen ninety nine. Okay, of course,
for Pete to get back in. But Pete's got to
do this. Pete's got to do that. I know. Bench
and Joe Morgan bless his soul, were quite unhappy with
the fact that they could never get Pete to admit
he needed help, needed a problem, he had, got a problem.

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And then he finally wrote the book and admitted he
did everything. That hurt that much more. There were so
many twist and turns, and after in August eighty nine,
every twist and turn he made was the wrong one.
And if Pete Rose said repeatedly, I don't care about
getting in the Hall of Fame when I'm dead, who cares.
I'm sure he's going to be read stated off the
lifetime list and he'll be eligible. A Veterans Committee's going

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to meet in the December of twenty twenty seven. Every
member of the so called Veterans Committee or against Pete
Rose getting in, and he's seventy five percent of the vote.
I don't know how that happens. But lastly, do you
see Keith O'Brien away that the number one is going
to be off the lifetime ban because he's dead, But

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then sheerless Joe's dead and he's still in the lifetime
band list and it's ironic. The Reds are playing the
White Sox Wednesday night, quite ironic. But nonetheless, do you
see get out your crystal ball? Does Pete Rose ever
get to the Hall of Fame? He said during his
living years, he didn't care.

Speaker 11 (01:17:45):
You know, it's impossible to predict. I mean, who knows.
This story is taking so many twists and turns. You know,
I will say this. You know, think in general, we
as a culture have lost perspective on the Hall of fame,
on all the halls of fame, right. I think we

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like to put athletes on pedestals. We like to pretend
perfect people, We like to ascribe moral values to them.
We don't even really know who they are. Bill, We
know very little about the people we cheer for, and
I will argue that we'll know even less about them
going forward in this modern era where reporters simply don't

(01:18:29):
have access to the players like they want. Players don't
even have for us. They can frame their own story
through their Instagram accounts, so we don't really know who
they are. I think we should enshrine or not enshrine
players based on what they did on the between the lines.
We know and if what they did off the field

(01:18:50):
is so wrong, then I say put those mistakes on
the plaque at Cooperstown right next to their accomplishments.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Well, at some point, Pete's going to be pardoned by
Donald Trump. At some point he's going to be reien
stayed a lifetime ban and let the chips fall where
they may. But if someone wants the good, the bad,
and the ugly, it's Charlie Hustle. The rise and fall
of Pete Rose in the last glory days of baseball
so true. The Reds used to have the highest payroll
in baseball. They were the dominant franchise. And here we

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are as a small market team thirty years later, and
we struggle to get to five hundred every now and then.
And once again, Uh, Keith O'Brien, it's always great to
have you on. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Keith O'Brien, you're a great American. Thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (01:19:31):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
We'll see you soon. Thank you all. Let's continue with
more the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,
seven thousand, Bill Cunningham, Here's Radio seven hundred w.

Speaker 9 (01:19:42):
LW Segman Dennison is the last man. I gave a
shot too.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Oh hello, hello.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Byet Skulls. I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Calling Pete Rose Ali segment. Did he give you a shower?

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Everything? Yeah, I'm not saying him a liar? No, what
are you saying? I'm not saying nothing. Didn't you give
a shout to Joe DiMaggio. I think that's what he's
talking about, not you. I was in the room when
that was edited edited. Yeah, it was a I No,
it was uh whatever, Well, you don't know what they
what is AI? You know what what does that stand for?
Allen Iverson? That's it right there. So you not as

(01:20:24):
dumb as people think you are. Huh huh. Now, Rock,
I have a comment for you to make. I just
handed you a story the murderer Rock is not working.
Is the microphone working? Microphone? Try that the man accused.
I won't mention his name. The cold blood of murderer

(01:20:46):
accused of killing Larry Henderson has fought a lawsuit against
the Hamley County Sheriff's Department and the Cincinnati Police, allegedly
claiming that he was treated to harshly when he was
arrested at the scene, and secondly, he was it was
intimidated by the arraignment in which the cops stood behind him,

(01:21:08):
that that showed disrespect, racism, intimidation, and embarrassment to the murderer.

Speaker 12 (01:21:15):
But of course he had nothing to do with his
current situation, nothinging.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
This so called person representing him wants him to be
released immediately. You must be released. I'm just saying, we
live in the world that's upside down. Your comments eventy, Plus,
the flag of the Cincinnati Police is now flying over
City Hall eight to one Plum Street for the first

(01:21:39):
time in its history. According to news media outlets, that finally,
after pureval is honoring police. Your comments on all this
police break it down by category?

Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
Well, talk to your.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Comments on the murderer suing the Sheriff's department alleging embarrassment
for the murder that he committed. What kind of I mean,
where are they gonna be seeking in his trial? Number one?
Released this group once and release number two a written
formal apology, and number three monetary damages for the murderer

(01:22:16):
ain't gonna happen. You bet against it. He's gonna get
it out of your mind. I didn't say I did
you know where he lives though Rock Middletown. By the
segment Middle Tucky, he spent time in the Butler County jail.
In mind, had the murderer did, and so you're not
going to defend him segment No Rock, your reaction to

(01:22:38):
the lawsuit, how's this going to play out? In your opinion?
That'll be dismissed. But I don't know. The bigger problem
is this, did the eighteen year old son of the
murderer who started this whole thing actually point the gun
at the police or not? One's video get released? A video,

(01:23:02):
A lot of it's been released now.

Speaker 12 (01:23:04):
By I mean, everybody I've talked to said that the
gun was dropped and it was then picked up. Why
do you pick up a gun if you don't intend
to use it? Now that's in that case, Pad, That's
a good question right there. If you don't intend to
use it, why wouldn't you just leave it on the
ground and say you know what you got me, I'm sorry,
or just scurry off into the woods and run away
like the other three. You pick up a gun that

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was us because you intend to use it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
That's not what that is going to be. The crux
of made the gun was not pointed at the Cincinnati
police officer. It was a bad shooting.

Speaker 12 (01:23:36):
Again, as I said the other day, there was three
different instances where he could have not you know, committed
to his own demise.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Could have not stolen the car.

Speaker 12 (01:23:46):
How about that idea, could have not run from the police,
and could have not picked up and pointed a gun
not once, but twice the police segment.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
Your reaction do you stand who do you stand with?
In these issues? Will leave the stude report, us of
prop service, every vocal tem star.

Speaker 10 (01:23:59):
He didn't get air conditioning dealers tame star quality you
could feel in Cincinnati called Stacy Heating and Air Solutions
five one, three, three six seven h E A T.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Spot your travels this fall? Will you go through Newark
at all? Liberty Airport?

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Hope?

Speaker 11 (01:24:18):
Not that?

Speaker 8 (01:24:20):
Now?

Speaker 12 (01:24:20):
The Trumps are in the in the budget is planning
to give some money to the bottom transportation.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
Who's responsible for this? Who was the second bid? And
how about Secretary Judge? Your buddy from South Bend. There's
another name time? Is that the Notre Dame connection?

Speaker 11 (01:24:34):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:24:34):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Was he the Mariouth Bend good friends back then? What
credentials did he have to be the transportation secretar.

Speaker 12 (01:24:41):
Not one who he shows the sleep with got in
the gig segment.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Any comments you have on that one? What transportation? No?

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Who you chowse the sleep with? That cheerleader from Cole Raine?
What was her name?

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Never mind? Go ahead?

Speaker 10 (01:24:59):
Uh usc AA Baseball Small College World Series. Willie Penn
Sate Skypeill got by Miami Middletown nine to eight and
eleven innings in the opener. So Miami Middletown the thunder
Hawks will play tomorrow in the loser's bracket.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
You're playing this because a Middletown is that it.

Speaker 10 (01:25:16):
Bengals Update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party Town,
the thirteen Convenient Locations in Northern Kentucky. Bengals defensive end
Trey Hendrickson, in a statement today, says that the team
is cut off contract talks after a dispute regarding a
new deal.

Speaker 12 (01:25:33):
Now, the media had reported that they were in constant conference.
You know, constant communication is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Maybe Henderson doesn't know and the Bengals don't know, but
the media does.

Speaker 12 (01:25:42):
Do you think the Bengals at any point last year said,
you know what, okay? Because how it went was like
he was unhappy with his contract last year. They essentially said, okay,
you go prove it. You did led the league in sacks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Come back.

Speaker 12 (01:25:54):
At any point in that, do you think the Bengals said
to him, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
You know, you go ahead and I'll perform the contract.
We're gonna pay it. I think the Bengals probably told
him that. I don't think so. I think they said.

Speaker 12 (01:26:06):
I think they said we'll revisit it. Don't imagine they
promised they would pay more reaction.

Speaker 10 (01:26:12):
The National Football League announced today the opening game of
the twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Uh oh, where's it?

Speaker 10 (01:26:18):
At Dallas at Philadelphia the Pope Thursday night, September the fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Will Pope show up for this one? He's an Eagles
fan from Villanova at a bud Man. The Big East
has a Pope? Say you buried the lead?

Speaker 12 (01:26:30):
Jordan Hudson finished third in the Miss Main competition.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Did you see that? I'm gonna get to that, Rockey,
give me a chance. All right, that's the lead story.
Let's see.

Speaker 10 (01:26:39):
In golf, Congrats to Jeff Beckham Holand one today at
four Bridges, the brother of David Beckham Holand One, his
first one Jeff Beckham, call him and tell.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
Him you're right. What the what hole number five? It
was two hundred and seventy five yard part three knocked
it in with a three wood on the fly? O? Wow,
how about that? Pretty good?

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
There?

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
You jealous? Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:27:02):
N C double a golf regional right now in Urban
or Urbana, Illinois playing as an individual, U sees Ryan
Ford is still tied for third to three.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Under who recruited the rock Urban Meyer who enjoys lap dances?
Was that Urban Illinois or Abana? I thought I thought
about the.

Speaker 12 (01:27:19):
Last Did you think constantly how you can tie me
into some sort of controversy?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
The king of that? Exactly? Thank you? Please continue.

Speaker 10 (01:27:30):
FC Cincinnati s Evander has been named to the MLS.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Is he related to Evander?

Speaker 10 (01:27:35):
Hollyfield No has been named to the MLS Team of
the Match day for a goal and assists Saturday night
and the win over Austin FC. The Orange and Blue
are at Toronto on Wednesday night and then take on
the Columbus crew Saturday. Where hell is real?

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Now? What about Wednesday night? About Pete Rose? You forgot
about that? I'm just gonna mention that. Well, Wednesday night
joined Pete Rose Knight, Uh do you joined us? For
seven hundred WLW Cincinnati Tax Resolution Pete Party presented by
Columbia Hunday live from the Holy Grail starting at three
o'clock Wednesday with the rock Edward and Moe all gonna

(01:28:13):
be there and he goes breaking down. Pete Rose break,
I need more information. I'll give it to you right now.
Pete Rose Junior. I talked to him earlier. He's gonna
join us at four or five. He needs a good man.
What's Dave Rose to in these days? Pete's brother?

Speaker 10 (01:28:25):
I can't say, Go ahead say and then what Jordan Hudson, Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
And then there's video of Belichick? Was there? Was he there?

Speaker 12 (01:28:35):
In the way the competition was held in a Holiday
inn in like Banger, Maine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Figures, that's perfecture.

Speaker 12 (01:28:43):
What you got Bill Belichick sitting there in the audience
of like twenty three people in a Holiday inn ballroom
in Banger, Maine, watches girl friend coming third. You did
not have that on your Bengo.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Car, I did not have that possibility of occurring. Can
you see them? And they sweet of holiday in celebrating
her her bronze finish.

Speaker 10 (01:29:04):
Well, there's there's video of there's video of the coach
chumming up with the winner, who is twenty one years old.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Belichick's going to younger then, right.

Speaker 10 (01:29:15):
She is then wash that guy the other day that
had that report of Pablo Torres. Yes he had a report.
There's there was there was, there was no way. He's
that Bill Belichick will coach the tar Heels this year.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Then all of a sudden he will not do it.
I got a who's gonna pull the trigger?

Speaker 10 (01:29:32):
North Carolina, the university chancellor, they probably had it. You
want that circus on the sideline. I think at this
point you got to go through it. I mean, look,
at the end of the day, people are gonna be
talking about North Carolina. I still believe Bill Belichick can
win football games. I think he looks at this as
Jordan Hudson helps him with his image, helps him look
a little bit. Younger, helps him look which she got

(01:29:53):
him kicked out of the league in the first place,
and she usually benefits by getting a you know, eight
million dollar uh, you know, housing portfolio.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
And so you're saying Bill Belichick goes to a holiday
inn in Bangor, Maine to watch Jordan Hudson finished bronze
third out of four and this Maine. Are any good
looking women in Maine? I don't think so. When's the
last time?

Speaker 7 (01:30:15):
Miss May was a twelve, not twelve but eight twelve,
So she was somewhat attractive, as you say, yes, so
it was a fair competition.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Jordan should have.

Speaker 12 (01:30:26):
But there was like a like a fan voting thing,
and you could pay a dollar to to cast a vote.
I would Bill Belichick would have called a bunch of
people and donated the money, and I would have. I
don't you wanted her to win on donate money? No,
I would, Jordan Hudson.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
He didn't finish. And you see her at Atlantic City
the Miss America contest with Bill Belichick. There you're talking
about it. There she is miss a Mary missus Belichick.
Will they get married and have children?

Speaker 12 (01:30:57):
I right now he is going to coach and he's
gonna he's gonna, like you're gonna have the first games.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
North Carolina hosting. Anybody.

Speaker 12 (01:31:10):
Let's go down the sideline with a rocket boyman Rocky
point on the Belichick rock what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Getting passing notes to Belichick from Jordan Hudson on play calling.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
I don't know anything about this past Belichick. Right, it's
on to Cincinnati. Well, what's he getting out of this?
I don't get it from Jordan Hudson.

Speaker 12 (01:31:32):
He gets he looks younger, like you know what I mean,
looks like he's kind.

Speaker 11 (01:31:38):
He gets and some other state.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Calm down, Dave, calm down, anatomically women, you get it
from bi logical. Never mind, what do you have on
the show today?

Speaker 11 (01:31:51):
That was awkward?

Speaker 10 (01:31:52):
That was rock The Trump said that you can use
his free plane he got from Cutter, so it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Was a plane for said the problem that they're complaining
four hundred million will take the plane takes a play,
a couple of paint on him.

Speaker 10 (01:32:07):
He said, you could use that during the college foot
Jordan for your support from Ohio. Spelichick wearing the pale
blue colors of the tart heels.

Speaker 5 (01:32:17):
No he was not. He was.

Speaker 12 (01:32:18):
She wore one of her dresses. And again I only
look into this so no one else has to. I
had to do the dirty work and look at pictures
of her and all the other main Miss America, you
know PA contestants.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
She did some dirty work too, just saying main this
main holiday in bangor Maine Banger banger, see bangor bangor
get emphasize the older, saying the foolishness has got to stop.

Speaker 12 (01:32:44):
Thank you so again. So the bed is you. You're
saying he will game North here who will coach a game?
And I'm gonna say he's gonna lead him to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Be on the side. Now that is a certainty.

Speaker 12 (01:32:59):
She will be yes, Now, well, I think I think
she'll be present like on the sideline pregame.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
But during the game she'll go open like the box
President's box. I will I won't, I won't say the
obvious thing. All right, what's twelve years old? What's on
the big ship? Out of that gutter? God, we've got
an expert on the pope.

Speaker 12 (01:33:20):
At least I'm not from Chicago like Pete Boota Jag
screwed up my buddy faa.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
That's that end, when you got an expert on the pope. Pope,
there's that number again, fourteen say get me out of
the store, super reported tape tape.

Speaker 10 (01:33:36):
Willie and hotter of a rainy day. You're in the
tri State. We leave you with the immortal words of
the stood report.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
All I should be with you, Bill, see you later
to see.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Control Republicans all anymore after the Executive Committee. Jim trust
is gonna run for governor everybody wants him to. If
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