5-13-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with John Zissner about the controversy with the Hyde Park development project. Also Dr Kurt Miceli talks about how liberal bureaucrats are attempting to hide DEI programs under new names. Finally Mark Meckler explains how the Trump administration is trying to change the Federal government.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, let's continue ow Bill Cunningham, the Great America. And
this Tuesday afternoon, the tri State getting ready for Pete
Rose celebration tomorrow night. The game has sold out forty
thousand strong. There made me some SRO tickets available, but
I put on my ex account a photo or two
of me and Pete back in the glory days for
the corpse all stars and rest in Pete, Rest in peace.

(00:28):
Pete Rose is all I can say about that. And
I think he's in the arms of God Almighty. I
pray he is. And he made many more positive contributions
to our great country, in our great city the negative ones,
and he belongs at least in the Hall of Fame,
maybe more, but until then you may recall. April the
twenty third, there was effort by city council to continue
the plan development to come fundamentally change Hyde Park Square

(00:51):
and it's something the residents don't want. And the vote
was seven to two. There were two council members, Jan
Michelle Kearney and Scottie Johnson who said no, it's too big,
but the other seven fell in line with what the
mayor wanted and they voted yes to allow these developments.
To go forward north of one hundred million dollars, and
at that time I had on John Zinzer part of

(01:12):
the group saved the Hyde Park Square a little bit,
a little bit unhappy with the vote, shall we say?
The council sessions went on for hours and hours and
they kind of ignored what the people wanted. And of
course I would say this and John Zinzer, welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show. But I want to relate to
you a little story that happened a week or two
later about the vote and what it is, John, is

(01:35):
that I was told by a knowledgeable political type and
city council that, well, look what happened when after have
peerival ran in the primary to stay as the mayor,
he got eighty two percent of the vote, and so
he said, I guess Hyde Park Square is not that
too important. So first of all, respond to that, and
then we'll go back in time a little bit. But

(01:56):
is there a sense the citizens are outraged but it
has no impact politically because this political guide told me, look,
aftav just got eighty two percent of the vote. How
do you respond to that before we talk about what
you're doing? Now?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Thanks, but I'm glad to be here with you again,
and I'm happy to go straight to that. We chose
not to try to make an expression via the primary.
We decided we were not going to try to make
a political noise in the primary, especially in the mayoral race.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
This isn't just a.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Mayoral problem, although I don't happen to agree with how
he's handled this. This is both a city council problem,
and this is actually a systems problem as well. Our
planning process, our development process. All of these need attention.
But on top of all of that, what you and
I have talked about most and what I'm really glad
to be back here to talk about again today.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Is the role of citizen voice.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm sitting where I am, I'm looking at City Hall,
and I can tell you very simply, City Hall has
stopped listening to the voice of citizens and especially neighborhood
council and community councils. A lot of people, a lot
of council members gave us some time and did some listening,
but they absolutely didn't do any hearing. And that's what

(03:10):
this PD issue has really become about. It is about
do citizens do neighborhood councils do community councils get a
say in what happens in their neighborhoods around development. Hyde
Park Squares stood up and said, we want voice in this.
You didn't hear us in the whole process. And it

(03:30):
wasn't just on the twenty third of April, goes all
the way back to January. More than seven hundred emails
were sent to Planning Committee staff. More than sixty people
spoke against it, about four spoke to it.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Then again in March it.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Happens in the Planning Commission meeting itself, then again the
day before the twenty third, on the twenty second, in
the Equitable Growth and Housing Commission Committee meeting. Then in
front of City Council, the voice was overwhelming, the hearing
was underwhelming. We're putting it on the ballot now to
show that citizen's voice and citizen issue still matters, and

(04:07):
we need the help of people who listen to you,
Bill to make sure we get that ballot measure on
the ballot.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
John Zenzer. Of course, their attitude is know your role, John,
and shut your mouth. But on this issue, just explain
in general what the general plan is. I've been to
Hyde Park Square. I was there a few days ago,
went to Zip's, got a cheeseburger, went at Graters and
I got me a ice cream, sat on a bench
with the family. I loved it.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
There.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Just explain in general, what did the city approve.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
What the city approved, effectively, was a container ship dropped
in on the south side of Hyde Park Square. They
are talking about something about four hundred feet long upwards
of potentially eighty five even ninety three feet high at
certain dimensions, stretching from Edwards to Michigan Avenue below Erie.

(04:59):
It will be the biggest thing by far in that
entire area, and it will absolutely change the character and
the tenor of Hyde Park Square.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I hear you, I'm really.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Glad you were there for your ice cream cone, and
that is something you hear over and over again. People
have memories, people have feeling about the square and the
fact Sunday such a beautiful day hyde Park Farmers Market,
thousands of people. I'm not kidding, incredible positive energy and feeling.
I tell you that won't be the same if this

(05:33):
gets built. And the fact of the matter is, if
we can get the help of the people we need
signing to get this on the ballot. I have every
faith that once this is on the ballot, we win
and this doesn't get built. But this again isn't about
just Hyde Park Square. This is a city wide issue
about citizen voice mattering.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
All.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Let let's talk about what's in the containership. Explain the
parking garage, underground parking garage, this huge building. Explained what's
in the containership, and tell the American people about this
underground parking.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
I love this image. I'm so glad you grabbed onto that.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
What they said they want to put on board this
container ship one hundred and twenty approximately apartments ranging from
studios to up two or three bedrooms. They also want
to put in a ninety room hotel. They keep using
a word to define it. They keep saying boutique. I
don't think of ninety as boutique. That's a little bit big.
They also, therefore, to manage this, they want to put

(06:33):
in three stories underground in a place that used to
be a lake parking. This to me doesn't sound like
a great idea. All of this city council kept saying, well,
it's about the housing. It's about the housing. It's about
the housing. Then why are you approving a hotel? The
thing that the city council could have done was that
they could have said, no, you don't get the PD.

(06:56):
That's what they actually passed.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
The PD is a development to it's called plan development.
It removes many.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Of the obstacles that the developers normally have to pass through,
so citizens get to say it makes it easier for
a developer to do some And here's our quick little
piece that I hope other people will pick up on.
A year ago, the rule required two acres. When they
passed connected communities, they shrink the size from two acres

(07:27):
to one point five acres to do a plan development.
Guess what this project is on one point seven to
eight acres. It's almost as if they custom changed the
rule for this development. I understand other places are now
that's being used for it, but the timing on that
is really exceptional.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
You talk about affordable housing. Affordable housing to me is
a rent of between eight hundred and maybe fifteen hundred
a month. The rule of thumb is you spent about
one third of your disposable income for housing. That's the
general rule. I can't imagine these apartments in Hyde Park
at a cost overall of over one hundred million dollars

(08:06):
will have quote affordable rents, and so you don't have
the rent structure, but I imagine they're going to be
quite high.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
They have given the city and the public no real
hard numbers about their business plan about where the rents
will come out. They said, we have to wait for
the PD. If we get the PD, we'll know more.
They got the PD, they still haven't released that information.
That's another one of my problems that city council is
voting on something that's a concept, and then when they

(08:36):
vote on the concept, they actually free the developer to
do whatever they want. Beyond the concept. We have no
idea what the rents will be. They're building that's closest
to this on Watson Way. Those rents start at three thousand,
eight hundred dollars. Now, I don't know if that's going
to be the same, but three thousand, eight hundred dollars
a month is not affordable housing.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I don't belie leave.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Other than the studios, any of these apartments might come
in anywhere near the kind of number you just shared.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Eight hundred to fifteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
My guess, and it's just a guest because they haven't
shared anything with us, they'll have to start in the
mid twos at the lowest. More likely they'll be starting,
especially for something with a bedroom or two even higher
than that.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
But again, the.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Building that they've built closest, called the Ilia, starts at
thirty eight hundred and there used to be buildings. There
are buildings still on Hyde Park Square with vacant apartments
for a fraction of that. Yet city council is saying
we need housing, we need housing, we need housing. Scotty
Johnson was amazing, he said. Jimshelvan Kearney and he were

(09:44):
the two champions here. Scotty said, I'm tired of city
council hiding behind we need housing and then doing projects
like this, doing things that don't bring us any kind
of affordable housing.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Well, my simple Deer Park, matthe if you spend about
four one thousand dollars a month for a one bedroom
or a two bedroom might be five thousand a month,
you'd have to have about sixteen thousand dollars net a
month in disposable income. Now sixteen thousand dollars a month,
that's about two hundred thousand dollars a year net and

(10:18):
disposable income to most Americans. There's two hundred thousand dollars
a year after taxes. Is that affordable housing for average
middle class Americans?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
No, that's really true than that this is a subsidy
effectively to a developer to make more money and to
put housing in a very expensive place and make it
possible for them to do it the way they want
to do It has nothing to do with affordability of housing.
That the average income in Hyde Park, it's one of

(10:49):
the highest in the cities. Yeah, but it's still nowhere
near what you're talking about, and that's not affordable housing.
And I do agree with Scottie Johnson. I think that's
been a smoke screen that has been used a lot.
There's a project in Oakley which was shovel ready for
housing units. City council turns it over and gives permission
for them to build car condos.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
That's not housing. We just had another event just this week. Condo.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, because everybody has disposable income for a ferrari that
needs a conduct correct affordable Yeah, exactly, very affordable.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Let's talk about Hyde Park compared to the other I
guess fifty one communities, neighborhood councils Uh, you mentioned off
the air that you've hooked up with Reverend Damon Lynch,
and every now and then he has a lucid thought,
and I'm thinking to myself the way, by the way,
I like to think we're friends. But nonetheless describe how

(11:47):
this is not necessarily only about Hyde Park, but it's
about all fifty one communities, and how this council, like
many others, don't pay attention to you because it's Hyde Park,
and therefore you people can afford it. Know you're shut
your mouth. How have you broadened out this movement?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
So this movement is actually supported by currently fourteen other
neighborhood councils and community councils from all over the city,
all the way from Washington Mount Washington in the east
to Sailor Park.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
In the west.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
We have fourteen different committees that took votes wrote letters
saying don't do this, to which the city council responded
with crickets. Absolutely no response to the letters. They did
not write anybody and said thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
For your letter. Nothing.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
We also have four different civic organizations that have teamed
with us. This is not a Hyde Park issue. But
I will say this, if this can happen in Hyde Park,
It can will, and in fact already has happened in
neighborhood after neighborhood after neighborhood, Bondhill, Cliston, Cuff, I could go.

(12:54):
These are all people who have joined us, and I
could keep going. Neighborhood after neighborhood after neighborhood is getting
railroaded by development that City Hall is getting a speed
pass to rather than letting the voice of the people
be heard. I'll be clear, Hyde Park wants development. We
want to improve the square, we want to grow it,

(13:16):
we want development. We just don't want that development. The
way it's sized, the way it will cost the hotel.
All of that is against zoning, which was just established
a year ago in order to keep Hyde Park Hyde Park.
And right now City Council is basically crumpling up that
piece of paper, throwing it over their shoulder and saying,

(13:37):
do what you want to do.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Pee, okay, all.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Right, John Zinzer, say Hyde Park Square, you need thousands
of signatures. You have until May twenty third. Now we're
about halfway through, and this is May thirteenth. You have
only ten days to get believe it or not, it's
May thirteenth, and pete rose tomorrow night's May fourteenth. But nonetheless,
where can people go to sign because your fight today

(14:00):
we'll be the fight of other citizens tomorrow and the
week after, the month after. If you don't get the
signatures and don't get on the ballot, and the way
you go, and you're about halfway through the process, how
are you coming with signatures? At this point?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
We are very excited by how we're doing.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
We have hundreds of volunteers in the field with thousands
of petitions.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
We are really pleased with where we are. But we are.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Absolutely keep on our foot, flat down on the accelerator.
We are not letting up. We are going to get
this number, and I would like to see us get
double the number that we need. We are looking for
fifteen thousand signatures. We're absolutely not there yet, so we
need everybody to come and help us get those signatures.
I'd be happy to tell you about a couple of

(14:46):
different places.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Tell me.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
We want to set up a few things right now
to make it so easy for people. We want to
do a couple of different drive buys where you can
just stay in your car. We'll come to your window,
hand you the petition talk you through whatever you need
to answer, get your voting signature, your street address. You
have to write out the word Cincinnati, you have to
write out the word Hamilton, and then you have to

(15:08):
date it and that's it. We can do this in
a minute or two. One of the drive by locations
which will be functioning on Tomorrow, Thursday and Friday is
three four three five Michigan Avenue in Cincinnati is just
off of Hyde Park. If you come on Eerie and
turn right onto Michigan. This is right in front of

(15:28):
the Unwind Wine Bar. We'll have volunteers there. You'll be
able to just drive up between ten am and four
pm the next three days Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Also on
Wednesday at seven West Observatory Hill in Cincinnati, we will
have a drive by there.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
That's just up by Allt Park.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
You're more than welcome to come by. There will be
volunteers there. Also, really great place. There will be volunteers
at the Farmers Market on four to two four two
to two two Hamilton Avenue from five to seven tomorrow
another great place to go. I want to mention just
three other quick events. On the fifteenth after Pete Rose Day,

(16:12):
the day after at one one one West McMicken the
Northern Road Brewing. There will be an event inside. This
is being run by our friends at Charter who are
one of the civic groups who've teamed with us. They
will be glad to do your petition right there. Please
stop by there. Jim Tarbo will be a guest same night.

(16:34):
A little further down the road, Price Hill Chili another
place where we're getting collection of from five to eight pm,
Pryce Hill Chilly.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I've been there pretty good. I've been there.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
There we go, so you stop by, have a little
something to eat, sign a petition.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
We would love to have that.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
This will also bring brought to us by the good
folks at Charter. And then the last one of those
is Saturday the seventeenth at six zero nine to five
Montgomery Road nine and Brewing.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's another place that you can go all right.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Of course, one of the one of the great places
also as well Sunday at Hyde Park Square there's the
Hyde Park Farmers Market.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
We'd love to have your signatures there. All of these
are available.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Easiest place to go get information rather than listening to
me is save Hyde Parksquare dot org. All of these
things are listed there. We love to have more people
volunteer to help us get these signatures. We'd love everybody
to keep showing up signing for us so we can
get the voice of the citizens heard on this issue
and every issue.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Well, you're making too much sense to be in politics.
Once again, Save Hyde Parksquare dot org and this Sunday,
Hyde Park Square. I may stop by. I'll call you
if I'm coming by and say a lot of that.
I love coming there. Save Hyde Parksquare dot org. You know, John,
they're counting on you and other citizens like Damon Lynch.
Know your role and shut your mouth and hopefully that

(17:55):
won't be the case. Not going to do it, I
said to that, But let's do it again as we
to the twenty third. But John Zinzer, once again, thanks
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We'll do it
again in John Zinzer, You're a great American. And give
my best to Robert and Bobby Joseph. Bobby Joseph is
the best. And once again thanks for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Thank you, John, Thank you, Bill appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Let's continue with more. Save Hard Parksquare dot org is
all the sights, know your role and shut your mouth.
I haven't done much of that. Bill Cunningham, News Radio
seven hundred WULW Billy Billy Cunningham. The Great American Reds
Baseball kicks off about five forty tonight with the White
Sox in Town and Andrew ben Attende of Madeira High School.

(18:38):
I understand it's not playing on the DL one reason
or another. Of course, Tomorrow night's honoring Pete Rose and
his contributions to the people of Cincinnati, to especially to
the Reds, and to sports in general. I remember him
for the great things he did, not for the bad things.
I think Julius Caesar had once said, remember him that
made the bad be interred with his bones, and the

(19:01):
good live forever. And my memories of Pete are among
the best I could have about any person I've ever
been around. I had the honor of being around him
quite often, and it was wonderful. Any day with Pete
Rose was a great day. So that'll be acknowledged tomorrow night,
White Sox in Town. The home of Shoe was Joe Jackson,
which is somewhat appropriate, but nonetheless we'll see what happens

(19:21):
tomorrow night. After one o'clock today, doctor Kurt Masseli will
be here to talk about to Do No Harm, which
is what DEI and the infections they're in due to
the medical schools, the colleges, the universities, et cetera. Do
No Harm dot com is the website's pretty good. But
having discussed this matter with John Zinzer, by the way,

(19:41):
I've never met him in person. I'm gonna try this
Sunday to meet him about what's happening at Hyde Park Square.
Know your role and shut your mouth. The city planners
and the multi billionaire developers and city council no better
than the residents who live in the area. And this
is a laughable matter when you consider that. The argument

(20:03):
is we need more affordable housing. I don't know how
many Americans can afford to pay three to five thousand
dollars a month in rent, and that means, if the
standards are correct, you have to have a take home
pay of around two hundred thousand dollars a year to
pay the rent to live in one of these fancy apartments,
which I think is great if you can afford it.
Have added, but don't lie to me in the process. Please,

(20:25):
please don't lie to me and tell me this is
about affordable housing. It's got nothing to do with affordable housing.
It has a lot to do with developers paying politicians
money in the form of campaign donations. Underline that, think
of many other Democrats who have gone down the tubes
recently for taking money they shouldn't have taken. And secondly,
to have individuals with high income move into the city

(20:49):
because of the two point one percent earnings text which
I think right now is one point nine percent but
is going to go up, and so to fund their
social spending. The Democrats on City Council and there are
no repebls against its nine zip Democrats have got to
get more money in the coffers. The way to get
more money in the coffers is to lie and then
on one hand, but on the other hand, have individuals

(21:10):
with high disposable income, which I think is great to
move into these apartments because of the taxes they bring
with them. But don't urinate on me and tell me
it's raining. I think John Zinz and others have seen
through the charade and it's nothing but a charade. Should
there be redevelopment of Hyde Park Square, absolutely, but not

(21:32):
this type of redevelopment on Hyde Park Square. That's the differential.
But I see this, of course, across the political spectrum.
I see it across the legal spectrum. In my other life,
I represented many generally men. I think one woman in
my career who was committing domestic violence against their loved one,
of their spouse, their wife, generally, and the majority of time,

(21:55):
at some point the woman finally had enough and said
I can't take it anymore. I'm leaving her sisters or
dad or mother, her brothers or girlfriend said you can't
continue like this. Most of the time a woman in
that circumstance hits the bricks. If they constantly see a
man raising their hand to them, they can't take it anymore.

(22:17):
But some have got to stay. Some because of their
self image and because maybe of the kids or the
financial circumstances take the abuse. It's kind of called the
Stockholm syndrome. As you know, it's a well known psychological disorder.
It began in nineteen seventy three during a bank robbery

(22:38):
incident that happened in Stockholm, Sweden. During a six and
a half day stand off with the police, many of
the captive bank employees became sympathetic towards the bank robbers,
and after they were set free, some of the bank
employees refused to testify against the bank robbers in court
and even raise money for the defense. That's the Stockholm syndrome.

(22:59):
You take on the roles, you take on the skills,
should take on the motives, you take on the goals
of those that are hurting you, because you can't get
out of that loop. It's called the Stockholm syndrome. And
the bank robbers in Sweden had some complaint against capitalism

(23:20):
and civilization and they wanted to bring down the banking system. So,
having spent like six days being lectured to by these
bank robbers, some of the employees, by the way, they
were all women who suffered from this syndrome, wanted to
raise money to free their captives, their captors. It's unbelievable,

(23:41):
but it happens, and you see it with domestic violence.
I listened to GEN this morning with Scott Sloan talking
about the P. Ditty case and the girlfriend a gorgeous woman.
Her name's Cassie Ventura and she met P. Diddy when
she was nineteen and the P man was about thirty

(24:01):
seven years old. So about eighteen year differential, and they
had off again and off in relationships, shall we say,
over those seventeen years or so. She's now thirty eight
years old, and she's expected to recount for the jury
a lifetime, in fact, a decade and a half of
physical abuse, of use of her body for lascivious purposes,

(24:22):
control over her complete life, and frequent beatings. And she
for years could not get out of it. She stayed,
and she was taped to videod at the behest top
did it to have sex with numerous men committing numerous
degrading acts upon her body. And she stayed for a

(24:43):
long time, couldn't get out. She suffered from Stockholm syndrome.
And I see it happening in the political world all
the time, Stockholm syndrome. And what it means is that
you maybe live in a blue stin hopefully not in
the blue state, and that you keep voting for those

(25:05):
harming you because you can't get out of that. That's centrifuge,
that that circle. You can't leave it. And it's not
because you benefit from liberal democratic politics. Oh no, you're
hurt by it. And I look all around me at
the evidence of not just for a year or two,
a cycle or two, a decade or two. But in

(25:28):
many great American cities like Detroit or Chicago, it goes
on for one hundred years, and those captured by the
Stockholm syndrome keep voting for those causing the problems and
the abuse. It's truly, it's truly unbelievable. You look around
most major American cities. Cincinnati is not quite there, and

(25:51):
it's because of Western Southern the Joseph Automotive Group, FC,
fifth Third Bank, Procter in God's corporate shall we say,
foundations that say not on my watch. But those institutions
are vacant now. From Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, San Francisco,
a lot of the evens described by the residents as hellholes,

(26:15):
abandoned buildings, crime, drugs, homelessness, lousy, dysfunctional schools, no job creation, nothing.
But those were living in those areas, like those bank
employees in Stockholm are like Cassie Ventura can't get out
of it and say, wait a minute, we don't have
to live like this. The addiction, the economic ruin, the

(26:39):
mobs like on you know, the banks on the Ohio River.
I had on of course, ken Kober talked about mobs
of teenagers with guns, smoking pot looking at looking for
their next victim. It's the economic ruination that decay, the destruction,
all the lives lost and all the lives damaged and

(26:59):
wake all that didn't listen to any self reflection or
course correction from the left. They never said. In fact,
in the last couple elections, there was one Republican running
and she was soundly defeated, and the Democratic Liberals in
the city of Cincinnati keep voting for those who have
caused the problems they complain about. It's to me, it's

(27:24):
more than amazing, it's unbelievable. I think evil comes to mind.
The relationship between the Liberal Democratic Party, blue cities and
blue states and its voters is the relationship between the
abuser and the victim who can't escape it. I'm told

(27:46):
that if you're in Dayton or Cleveland, or Cincinnati the
city thereof, or Chicago, it's worse. Blue city, blue state.
It's awful. And I hope our city doesn't go go
down that route. When do we have a city council
telling the residents of the city we have to have

(28:09):
more affordable housing than green lighting a project with three
to five thousand dollars a month in rent. There you're
wet and they're telling you it's raining, but they're urinating
on you. Can you figure this out? What's happening? Maybe not.
I don't want my city to be like so many

(28:31):
other blue city, blue state. If you've got a blue
city in a red state Ohio, for example, you got
a shot because the restraints of state government will stop it.
But right now Cincinnati has a relationship with his voters
like the abuser with the victim of their policies. Would

(28:52):
anyone send their kid to use high school and if
they had a choice or Woodward High School? Most of
the grade schools are completely dysfunctional, little or no family formation,
rampant drug use, open air marijuana being smoked, needles on
the ground. And those in charge of this promised to
do better. Well, they've had more than a half a
century to do better, and they've done worse. You might

(29:16):
know that FCC and the great Carl Linder was able
to do what he's done in the East End, I'm sorry,
the West End only because of a five to four vote.
There were four Liberals on city Council, and I guess pg.
Sittenvel was bribed directly or indirectly voting yes that they

(29:38):
wanted to keep the drugs in the Section eight housing
and the rampant lawlessness and the homelessness. They wanted to
keep it going. Let's do more of it. Five to four.
And if the three of the four hadn't gone to
federal prison, they probably would have been re elected again
and again and again. It's the relationship between the abuser
and the victim. Now here's Dave, if you have it ready.

(30:03):
Malcolm X, the great by some standards, Malcolm X, who
was murdered by the Nation of Islam because he outed
Elijah Mohammad, the leader of the Nation of Islam, for
sleeping with teenage girls, had this comment about conservatives and liberals.
You can't believe this about sixty years ago. Dave hit it.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in
one way. The liberal is more deceitful, more hypocritical than
the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is
the one who has perfected the art opposing as the
negro's friend and benefactor, and by winning the friendship and

(30:46):
support of the negro, the white liberal is able to
use the Negro as a pawn or a weapon in
this political football game that is constantly raging between the
white liberals and the white conservatives. The American Negro is
nothing but a political football, and the white liberals control
this ball through tricks or tokenism, false promises of integration

(31:13):
and civil rights. In this game of deceiving and using
the American Negro, the white liberals have complete cooperation of
the civil ranks lead.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
You sixty years ago. Malcolm X is reaching to you
in twenty twenty five saying, don't believe liberal Democrats. They're
not your friends, they're not your benefactors. You are being
used by them for their political power. Do you accept

(31:44):
any of this? Can I understand what's happening? What's going on,
Malcolm X with the Great American telling liberal democrats, especially
black liberal democrats, look at what that party has done
to you and not for you. When will you stop
being used by them? How much longer will it take

(32:04):
to say we can't live like this, we can't take
this anymore. Malcolm X is telling you what to do.
We just throw the bums out. Change what you're doing.
Don't anticipate different results, doing exactly the same thing. All right,
let's continue if the line ever becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,

(32:25):
seven thousand. I didn't think this would appear, but I
guess it has. You have Bill Cunningham and Malcolm X
both saying the same thing. Bill Cunningham seven hundred WW

(32:46):
by Bill Cunningham, the Great America, And once again the
President has acted a little Passes one hundred day and
the President has signed numerous eos executive orders dismantling demanding
accrediting bodies to stop imposing DEI requirements on schools, whether
it's Jale or Harvard, or U c l A or
University of Cincinnati, also medical schools, and also the American

(33:09):
Bar Association, a very liberal organization, wants to use DEI
as far as the eye can see. But doctor Kurt
Mascelli is the medical director at Do No Harm, and
Do No Harm has been leading voice exposing medical accrediting
bodies for putting politics ahead of patients. And doctor Miscelli,
welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,

(33:32):
let's go over the last several decades. There's been numerous
attempts by the US Supreme Court to get racism out
of schools, out of the workplace, out of schools, but
that has largely been accomplished in my view, and so liberals,
not happy with equal and playing grounds, want to change
this argument, which is DEI. So first of all, tell

(33:53):
the American people what is du what is d I?
Then we'll talk about critical race theory. What is it?

Speaker 5 (33:59):
In essence, absolutely so diversity equit inclusion. DEI unfortunately, really
has been this effort to promote discrimination and actions within
universities and systems throughout our country that has really put
people into positions based on their identity, whether their race
or gender, whatever it might be. And it really looks
at us in a very Unamerican way by putting us

(34:22):
into groups oppressor and oppressed, and creating this dynamic that
causes tremendous strife and struggle. And we've seen it. We've
seen it whether through accreditation agencies, through schools where discriminatory
practices are put in place, and we've lost sight of
the importance of merit and of quality that really needs
to be at the heart and soul of what we
do and what has made America a great country.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
And doctor Marcelli, Liberals and mainly ninety nine percent Democrats
control this process. If you're at Harvard or Yale or UCLA,
University of Chicago, any of the so called top colleges
are all dominated by liberals. I would also think that
the great majority of labor unions are dominated by liberals,
the great majority of the captains of industry are dominated

(35:01):
by liberals, the great majority of big city mayors are
dominated by liberal Democrats. So isn't it somewhat odd that
those who on surface oppose race discrimination employ it. Isn't
that somewhat peculiar?

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (35:18):
I think it really gets to the heart and soul
of where we need to focus on and focusing on
who we are as Americans and really not getting into
conversations that do put us in different categories and that
separate us and divide us. And I think it's so
important that we as Americans, as students, as educators, as
consumers are very much aware of that and know the

(35:40):
importance of the merit and the quality that we see
and really not to let these un American principles take hold.
I mean, that's what we're doing a do no harm,
That's what we're doing. When we focus on the medical
space and healthcare, we know that Americans want healthcare to
be excellent. When you're in that journey, when you're in
that er, you want the very best doctor before you,
the very best, the very best caretakers who can make

(36:02):
sure that you're going to be well, your family's going
to be well. And we don't want things like immutable
characteristics and really this sort of divisive dynamic taking place.
We want it to be really an approach that looks
at the patient and looks at what can be done
that's best for them. So, yeah, there's a lot of
work that we need to do, and we're encouraged by
really tackling this issue of identity politics with an administration

(36:25):
that's willing to look at all sorts of various avenues
to make our country into a much better state. And
really those values that we're founded upon, that meritocracy that
is at our fundamental base.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Meritocracy is terribly important, Doctor Masseli, Before we get to
medical school, I see that Harvard has now changed. They
had a chief Officer of a Diversity, Equity and Inclusion.
They had a Chief DEI Officer. They had about sixty
employees hired at Harvard in the Department of DEI then
now I've changed the name because of catching too much flock,

(37:00):
and they kind of call it the Director of Community Involvement,
And so I would anticipate the goal now will be
to eliminate DEI in principle, but not in practice. Have
you noticed that little bit of a subtle change.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Now you're certainly onto something, and you're absolutely right. I mean, unfortunately,
it's DEI as an entity as a principle that needs
to be eliminated because of the discrimination, because of the divisiveness.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
If that is the.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Idea that needs to go away, and we've seen other
schools do this as well.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
If you look at.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Schools that have changed the names of their department, and
they might not be a quote unquote DEI department, but
as you say, something very different. But if they're doing
the same things, then it's just as problematic. And unfortunately,
many of these institutions over the past decade plus have
actually embedded DEI very much into their organizational base, and
we sought the University of Michigan throughout that system. I

(37:55):
think there are almost a thousand different employees that were
related to DEI in some way, shape or form, and
maybe not all of them are full time or such.
But nonetheless, it's a tremendous dei infrastructure that's built in
place and really does need to be dismantled in order
for us to make sure that the meritocracy is what's
driving the day and not ideology and not division.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
So you're saying, in one public University of Michigan, the
home of the Wolverines, they have about a thousand employees
hired to root out discrimination at Michigan by practicing it.
It's kind of and you also have something on your
website implicit bias training for Michigan healthcare professionals. When you
can't find discrimination, and these thousand individuals at Michigan University

(38:38):
have got to be spending every day trying to find discrimination.
They got to locate it. Maybe they should look at
the football team that the main players in the football
team are seventy percent black because it's a meritocracy. I
don't care if they are one hundred percent one hundred
percent black, as long as it's a meritocracy. But if
you don't find discrimination in your organization, you have to

(38:58):
change to something called implicit bias. Explain what that is?

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Sure, that's you know that implicit bias idea is that
we harbor these biases within ourselves that we don't even
necessarily know about.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Right.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
They're they're implicit, not explicit, but but we harbor them
towards people a different color, different sex, different religion, whatever
it might be, and that as a consequence of those
implicit biases, we are essentially doing bad things to other people.
And I think it's a terrible concept because it accuses
somebody of practicing racism or sexism or or whatever it
might be, as opposed to really looking at who they

(39:32):
are as an individual and who that person is. And
I think for each and every one of us, it's
so important to recognize that the implicit bias idea has
been so baked into critical race theory and so baked
into fostering more division exclusion. We need to look past that.
We need to look to again the individual, who is

(39:54):
that person that stands before us. I know that we
see that implicit bias training, whether as a mandatory factor
and licensure in certain states again such as Michigan, but
we also see it in some of the actual certification
statements that physicians must sign on to. And so you know,
the American Board of emergency medicine, for instance, requires physicians,

(40:15):
if they're going to participate in the board certification process,
to acknowledge their implicit and explicit biases. And again that
really presents a charge on somebody that already going into things.
They're doing things in the wrong way. They're doing things
because of racism, structural racism, of all these different ideas,
and that doesn't judge people based on the individual and

(40:37):
who they are and how they're performing. Especially in an
emergency department situation where people are coming in at critical
moments in their life. The last thing that we're thinking
about is the race of the individual. The first thing
we're thinking about is how do we save this person?
How do we help them immediately? And so it really
becomes very wearing on the medical profession and medical field,
and frankly, we've seen people decide not to renew their

(40:58):
license or not to participate. You know, we need more
healthcare providers to provide good quality care, not less, and
it's training such as that, but unfortunately drive people away
because of the ideology that they.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Impart great point, doctor cart missally, So you're saying, if
a young Bill Cunningham wanted to go to medical school,
I'd have to first certify that I'm a racist. I
have to certify that I understand that I need implicit
bias training. I have to say that I need training
on critical race theory. I have to certify that I'm

(41:29):
I'm an anti racism advocate. So to get into medical school,
I have to certify that I'm a racist. To become
a doctor.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Well, you know, for medical schools, there is a process
that has folks will out an application and oftentimes those
applications are very much related to the diversity initiative that
someone has taken. It's a little bit later that often
comes out the demands for implicit bias and you know,
it depends on the school. Some schools it might be
the first week where folks are learning about anti racism

(41:58):
and healthcare and tranquil the first week of orientation, if anything,
should be about the practice of medicine, the hippocratic oath,
the values of what brings us there. But unfortunately the
ideology is there. And necessarily what I was speaking to
was the board certification, so is as one actually is
now an independently practicing physician. Unfortunately, some board requirements have

(42:19):
made folks acknowledge their implicit bias or as we said,
some licenses in order to be that independently practicing position.
It really I mean, you're right, much of it does
start in the medical school and even the application process,
and unfortunately it just sometimes gets worse along the way.
And that's what an organization like to no harm. I mean,
that's what we're really combating, is to look at these

(42:40):
elements of DEI that have been so destructive and so divisive,
looking to find ways of focusing on quality, focusing on
merrit focusing on the things that really matter to folks
when they're in that healthcare environment.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
We can a black person be racist if I'm a
black gay man and I'm applying, Do I have to
certify that I'm a ra system and have anti gay biases?
Is this only for a white Christian males? Or does
a black person have to certify that they're they're not
a racist? They need to certify they have have to
certify that I have biases and as a black person,

(43:14):
therefore I need to be cured of my biases. Does
it only apply to one gender, one race or everybody?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
You know, these application questions are open for everybody to
to state their their experience with diversity, equity, inclusion and
such and and so it really does leave it open
to everyone to offer their thoughts about those things. But again,
is that really part and parcel to what an emission
process should entail And shouldn't we be looking at the

(43:41):
grades and the test performance. And you know, additionally, it's
certainly fair to understand the cricular activities and the things
that someone has done the course of their life. But
when we lose when we focus unfortunately on on race
and division, we lose sight of those elements that that
look towards qualifications. And one of the things that we

(44:01):
do know is that students who do better on the MCAP,
the emission test for medical school, tend to perform better
in medical school. We know that students who do better
in medical school tend to perform better in residency training
as a physician. And we know that resident physicians who
pass the board exams, for instance, will actually have better
outcomes in terms of mortality and readmissions for Medicare beneficiary.

(44:25):
So we know there's a chain of connection there that
merit does matter. It matters to how that physician is
going to perform and how they're going to function. And again,
I think it's each and every one of us who
wants the very best provider before us when we're in
that critical situation and need really life saving care, or
any care for that matter, no matter what it may be.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Doctor Misseli, I read a story in the Wall Street
Journal that this industry and it's an industry of DEI
and anti racism and critical race theory as practiced by
hundreds of thousands of employees. This is this is a
huge business, and this business will not be given up
by those engaged in it lightly. They are completely believing

(45:10):
that racism is hiding everywhere in American society, that critical
race theory attributes all nations problems to racism no matter
what it is, that all of us have an anti race,
have a racism bias. We have to learn what anti
racism is. We have to learn about gender affirming care,
we have to learn about the biases. President, each of us,

(45:31):
do you understand that this effort of yours and others
is going to take a long time before the eight
billion dollars and the hundreds of thousands working in this industry,
They're not easily going to give up their work. You understand,
it's about money. It's not about making better doctors or
better lawyers or better cops. It's about making money. And
the industry wants to make money when the when the

(45:53):
issue is what's causing this difficulty or how to solve it,
it's always about money, is it not? And then this industry,
if there's a thousand people at the University of Michigan
involved in this kind of crap, and that's just one
of thousands of examples, those involved in this industry of
racism will not quickly give up their business, correct.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
I think that's what we have to really be watchful for. So,
for instance, University of Michigan has said, I think maybe
a few weeks ago, that they will begin dismantling the
DEI initiatives, and we need to follow that. We need
to make sure that when organizations institutions say they're going
to dismantle change things, that they truly rid themselves of
those DEI principles that are discriminatory and that really hurt

(46:38):
the meritocracy. It is very much ingrained in many institutions,
many schools, and I think it's really cause to the
importance of organizations like do No harm that are membership
organizations and are focused on getting identity politics out of
the medical profession and certainly for other organizations, you know,
out of getting in at a very professional areas as well.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Well.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
It is going to take effort, it's going to take time,
and it's going to take people speaking up. If we
do No Harm, we have a tip line. We welcome
people to come to our website do No Harmmedicine dot
org so they can provide information as to what might
be going on at their school or at their organization,
their healthcare provider, hospital, or such whereby they where those
organizations if they're not you know, really following principles really meritocracy,

(47:25):
but still lead to di We're curious to hear about that.
We want to be able to shine a light upon
it because our belief is that if we can shine
light upon this, we can make America where and we
can really cause action to take place, because folks will
realize that we need to restore and return to those
principles that again focus on enhancing quality, on improving outcomes,

(47:49):
and for medicine, it certainly relates to trust as well
and the importance of having integrity and really believing in
the medical system and having confidence that it will provide
for you through throughout your lifetime.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
You know, doctor MASSELLI a lot of work ahead of you.
And the liberals are hoping that Trump leaves office in
about three and a half to four years. He's going
to leave office, and they just hold on, rename DEI,
rename discrimination, that we employ, change the name, and just
way through or four years, we'll get maybe someone like

(48:22):
Governor Pritzer or maybe Kamala Harris will be the next
president and we're back in business again, beating the dead
horse of racism for personal benefit lots of money. And
I would know that Michelle Obama or podcast recently said
that racism is everywhere and that way to fight against it,
and that's a big industry. It's a lie that all

(48:43):
of us have implicit advices of one type or another.
But it's not intrinsic, it is not incorrigible. It doesn't
what we live in the most racially free organization America
and the history of the world. I'm proud to be
an American and I'm proud of what we've done. And
the liberals who must be fun that must be identified
and it's going to take more than four years of
Donald Trump. It's going to take a long time. As

(49:04):
we took us thirty years to get here, may take
us thirty years to get out. But the longest journey
begins for the first step. Do no Harmmedicine dot Org.
Doctor Curt Masseli, good luck to you, and God bless
you and God bless America.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
Thank you very much, Doc, appreciate Bill, thank you so
much for having me.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
God bless America. Let's continue with more. When you fund
an organization, you get more of it. When you fund
these groups that DEI all over colleges, universities, police departments,
municipal governments, the US military and the National Guard. Fund
all these groups, you get more of it. So they
keep looking for racism when it doesn't exist to justify
their job.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
Tony, congratulations, what did you hit?

Speaker 3 (49:45):
And Tony says you, I hit a Kai fastball.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Joe didn't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Joseah No, that's looped out the right field.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
You change a subject real quick on that loop out
the right field. I'm just describing the action. I'm pretty
sure we don't have a seven seven second delay.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
So oh hello, Piet and I'm spokes, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Take any day with Peter Edward Rose was a good day?
Would you agree? You're not kidding? Hilarious? How about him?
And uh and Trumpy and how about Marty and Marty,
Joe and Pete? Nothing better? Classic and classic Rose report. Yes,
I say, I have some questions here. Yes, one of
your arch nemesis wants to uh quiz you on Pete

(50:45):
Rose in order to demonstrate your lack of knowledge. Of course,
I defend you have a chance. I get, I can
tell I told the wild man, send whatever you want.
And here's two or three questions coming as I speak.
Are you prepared? I think so? All right? As usual
has his facts wrong about Pete Rose saying there were
fifty thousand fans at Riverfront on nine to eleven eighty five.

(51:07):
There was really only forty seven and thirty seven. I said, well, sorry,
here's the question. Yeah, on that night, uh huh. Of
course Eric Shaw was on the mount correct, and Pete
Rose was at the plate. Yes he was, and you
were there, yep. He was hitting left handed and in
the radio booth, and the ball was hit the left
more or less left center. Mello Carmelo Martinez got the ball.

(51:31):
But here's the question from the wild man. Are you prepared?

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
He thinks you don't know who was the catcher for
the Padres to go back in your mind, Eric, show
is on the mound, Eric he Rose leveling his bat
and then Joe's get down, Get down? But who was
the catcher for San Diego? I knew you wouldn't know it.
Let's see. Oh it's the Bruce Bochie that's correct. Yeah,

(52:02):
it's still managing man, still Texas. Yeah, when the World Series?
Yeah yeah, Oji, let me give you another question because
he wants to show a stupid jar. Okay, asked seg
the big Pete Rose fan. He thinks he is. I
guarantee you he didn't know the date of the May fifth,

(52:22):
sevent nineteen seventy eight, served up pitt number three thousand.
Who was pitching for the Expos when Pete Rose got
his three thousand hit? Go back, it was May nineteen
seventy eight. Let's see. Uh, well, come on about the

(52:44):
only uh, come on about the only great pitcher I
think the Expos ever had with Steve Rodgers bingo.

Speaker 7 (52:52):
Oh, okay, let's trying to think of somebody else but
that name popped in my head.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
I think he wore number forty five. Seg won't know
any of these questions, my ass recording.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Good.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Okay, here's another one. You're ready for the Yeah, two
for two, go right ahead. What what was the last
hit that Pete Rose had, of course in the reds uniform?
Was it a single, a double, a triple, a home run?
His last hit? I think it was, uh, well, I
mean he's known for this, I mean single in nineteen
eighty six, and that's correct, Thank you. Now his last

(53:27):
did everybody know that? Everybody knows that? Yeah? His last
at bat? Okay, once against San Diego nineteen eighty six. Yeah,
what was the at bat? And who was on the map? Pitcher?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Pitcher? Would you say nineteen eighty six. I'll give you
a hint. He had quite a bit of props with
the New York Yankees too, son, did a lot of
good players. Come on, I think he had a big mustache,
goose gossage. That's how about that? That is correct? See

(54:04):
unbelievable Andy Mack segment. That's very good on your band.
But by the way, you Willie, I make it much
easier than it really is. Is that fair to say? Yes?
And I love you dearly, but you're not a serious person.
Will he the stood reporters of proud service of your
local temp Star heating and air conditioning dealers temestar quality
you can feel in Northern Kentucky Cony what a heating

(54:25):
and air eight five nine seven eight one forty eight
twenty two. He also says that when Pete came in
as the Reds manager in nineteen eighty four holding a
press conference, I bet seg wasn't there. He was too
busy stuff in his face with free food. Well, who
would get Pete's comments for him? I wasn't eating food.
I was probably getting tape for him, which go on

(54:48):
which he was never which the bound man never did. Yeah,
this he did pretty must forget it as ridiculous. You've
shown your brilliance. Yeah, a man was the smell like
a man. Thank you, Pete Lear's Pride Market. Will he
brought our lunch today?

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always a cut above. I want to wait a minute,
We're gonna get off with Trey Hendrickson. What showed up
today in the Bengals workout?

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Elizabeth not practicing a day after he voiced his displeasure
as to the status of his contract talks with the Bengals. Uh,
he is not a happy camper. Apparently he received a
text message from Zach Taylor threatening him with fines if

(55:44):
he does not show up at the mandatory mini camp
in June. Here we go, and there's a rumor going
around on X that the Buffalo Bills are going to
open their season at home on Sunday night against Joe
Burrow and the Bengals. The season opener in Buffalo Buffalo

(56:05):
had nine feet of snow on the ground. Not in September,
you fool, Yes, there will be will be. Yeah, first
round pick mister Stewart did not practice because he's got
stalled contract talks. Wide receiver T Higgins who was here
last week? Not here today? What? Not here today? T Higgins? What?

(56:28):
And no international games for the Bengals. Good Minnesota goes
will go to Dublin in London and back to back weeks.
What I got a text in the wild man He's okay?

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Now?

Speaker 1 (56:40):
What he got more questions for me that I'm not
a big Reds fan. He wasn't there when Pete got
hit number three thousand, and I was there when Pete
came up back as manager. He was stuffing his face
with food. Is that true? No? This is this is
idiotic and ignorant. I'm just talking about it. I'm just
saying here it is. Now. Say let me, let me

(57:03):
ask you, Let me bring you a thought. Are you ready?
Go ahead? All right? You got two things to worry
about in life, if you're healthy or if you're sick. Now,
if you're healthy, you got nothing to worry about. But
if you're sick, you got two things to worry about.
Are you going to get better? Are you gonna get worse?

Speaker 8 (57:25):
Now?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
If you get better, you got nothing to worry about.
If you get worse, you got two things to worry about.
That is whether you're going to live or whether you're
going to die. Now, if you live, you got nothing
to worry about. But if you die, you got two
things to worry about. Are you going to heaven you're
going to go to hell.

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
If you go to heaven, you got nothing to worry about.
If you go to hell, you got two things to
worry about that is extra crispy or regular? Well, yeah,
Red's update.

Speaker 7 (58:02):
Those Reds open up a six game homestand tonight with
the first Did you get that from wild Man?

Speaker 8 (58:06):
Two?

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Or yes? Two stories? He's a little bit that's not
on his realms. Sending me some more questions for you.
By the way, you don't want to hear these questions.
This is ignorant. What size waist was Pete Rose in
nineteen eighty five? And did you smell his jock? I
don't respond to ignorant. First of three to night up

(58:28):
against the Chicago White Sox. How does he know? You
got two things?

Speaker 8 (58:32):
Story?

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Would he hug Pete? He would well probably did. If
Pete said I need a personal favor. What would the
wild Man have done? I'm pleading the fifth?

Speaker 7 (58:42):
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Speaker 1 (58:50):
After the game. Got two things to worry about? Yeah,
Jonathan Cannon will go for the socks tonight against Andrew Abbott.
By the way, what time was it when Pete Rose
got hit for he was too busy giving Marty I
can't say what it was given Marty Pete Rose Night
Tomorrow night, will you have sold out Great American Ballpark?
It was eight oh one.

Speaker 7 (59:10):
They will honor the late hit King. I was just
about to say that. Seven hundred WLW Cincinnati Tax Resolution.
Pete Party presented by Columbia Hyundai dot Com starts tomorrow
at three live from the Holy Grail. You know what,
wild I hope wild Man's there tomorrow. I'll challenge him
with more Pete Rose trivia.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
Man Dennison is the last I gave.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Why would I do that? Did you give Pete a shower?
Why don't I do that? If Pete asked the wild
Man to lather up on the shower, what would wild
Man say? Hand me the soap.

Speaker 7 (59:43):
The Bengals schedule is going to be released tomorrow night,
and join us for the AE Door and Window presented
by Bill and Adam Weber NFL schedule release party live
from Smoke Justice at six o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty ELLUS.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
It says, segment is worthless.

Speaker 7 (59:59):
Back to base Ball us caa small college baseball World Series.
Today amid Atlantic Christian scoring four runs in the seventh
to be Miami Middletown five to four. So unfortunately the
thunder Hawks are out of the World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
What the hell? FC Cincinnati made it official, Willy by
signing MLS legend forty year old Key Kamara to a contract.
What about Kaca?

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
He is leading, He's this league's second leading all time
scorer and forty seven regular season goals. But he can
I guess he can still do it. Orange and Blue
and Action tomorrow night at Toronto FC at seven, Fox
Sports thirteen sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
One.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
More questions than a wild Man seg Man. Who did
Pete Rose hit the only Grand Slam? I don't care.
I know this, you know what?

Speaker 7 (01:00:52):
Telling him to be down there tomorrow, I'll challenge him
on any other any other right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Tell us be there and I'll tomorrow there. Of course,
he can't get in. You're a trolie, has no radio business.
He can't get in, Kenny, thank you, Pete wild Man.
Can wild Man get in? Does he have that media pass? No? No, no,
he doesn't have a media pass.

Speaker 7 (01:01:15):
Had a little altercation in Florida and threw it into
Rob Butcher's face.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Not good, no, not good. When you throw your credential,
So you'll be in the media room waiting, media room
waiting for him, and he can't get in. Rob's gone. Now, well, no,
wild Man can't get in either. He can't. No, he
doesn't have a pass. Rob Butcher's gone, though he could
get a Can he get a pass? No, I'm sure that. No,

(01:01:41):
I won't major League Baseball in the Reds. Will that's
already been determined. Two things to worry about. I have
nothing to do that. It's the legacy of Rob Butcher continues,
Then go, yeah, I got one more questionnaire?

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Also, WILLI we want to say happy bird birthday today
to one of the greats, the senior writer emeritus of
Bengal dot Com, the one and only Jeff Butch Hobson
has a birthday today, Engill we Witch Butch a very
happy birthday. I like on this Tuesday, May the thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
And that guy likes me. Yep, let's talk about Trey Hendrickson.
So now, Zach Taylor is bringing down the hammer on
Trey Hendrickson who raised money for Deer Park High School?
Is that correct? It's getting ugly down there. Well, what
do you do now? Segment? They're saying, you signed a contract,
honor the contract didn't he sign this year. I think so, yes, yep.

(01:02:41):
What you're saying that Bengal's going to open up in Buffalo,
I don't know that's the rumor. Well what do you
what do you know about it? Segment? I need information?
Call wild Man, Willie and Otter of the beautiful day
here rainy day in the tri State. We leave you
with the immortal words of the stud dripport you never miss.
You're in a slump.

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
Don't ever let a picture tell you you're in a slump.
I would tell people, do you do one of six
things when you get into a wall?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
You know what they are? Yeah? Okay, Now tell me
all right, closer to the plate for the way from
the plate. Yes, up in the box, back in the box.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Choke up in the bat more, choke down the bat more,
make it heavier, make it lighter.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Never change your swing. Your swing got you into the
big leagues. That's the greatest advice for the hit king.
Where was seg Man when Pete Rose's statue was dedicated?
Were you there? Seg Were you there? Pete Rose dedication sliding?
Were you there? Say? We got to go buy on
seven hundred WLW my Billy Cunningham the great American The

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wisdom our founding fathers is apparent to all that can see.
And in seventeen eighty seven and Philadelphia, the Founding Fathers
got together and draft the United States Constitution provided for
an amendment process. I think there's twenty seven currently in
which citizens can amend it by doing a couple things
such as two thirds of the House, two thirds of
the Senate, three force of the states. They had Article

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five also in the United States Constitution from seventeen eighty seven,
which said that the Article five says that the can
be a convention of the States. So instead of the
process of amendment going through the Congress, it goes directly
to the people. And one of the gentlemen in charge
of this effort to have a Convention of the States
is the honorable Mark Meckler. He's President of Citizens for

(01:04:35):
Self Governance and Convention of the State's Action. And Mark Meckler,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Just in a
general way, explain to the American people what is Article
five of the US Constitution and how it might be
applied today.

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Yeah, so you described the first part of Article five,
which is where two thirds of both Houses can gather
together in Congress and propose an amendment, and then that
amendment becomes a suggestion to the states, and it takes
three quarters of the states or thirty eight states to ratify.
There's a second method in the Constitution, which says when
two thirds of the states wants to gather in convention,

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they can pass resolutions through their legislatures. No governor's signature required,
just legislatures, and they can request to gather in convention
to propose amendments to the Constitution, same exact process. If
they can get a majority of states to agree on
a proposed amendment, then those amendments go out to the
states for ratification. And it takes thirty eight states to

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ratify an amendment to the US Constitution.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
So how far along in the process are we sitting
here in April of twenty twenty five you started many
years ago. How many have signed up? And how many
more to go?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
So we are well over halfway.

Speaker 8 (01:05:42):
We've got nineteen states that have done and I'm hoping
for a couple more this year, including Ohio. So that
would take us to twenty one, and that would leave
us thirteen states. Shy of calling the first ever Convention
of States in the history of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
And what would be argued. Some have said this will
be a disaster because will open up everything and all
of a sudden you'll have more fighting, arguing and screaming.
And then others say it's required. From my perspective, Mark
as a great American, the budget deficits and term limits
for the House in the center are critical. Those two
things explain our current fiscal situation that the Convention of

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the States might help.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Look, there's only three things that you can be discussed.
Is anything that would impost term limits on DC, and
that includes Congress, but also other federal officials like the
Deep States staffers and bureaucrats. Second, is anything that would
impose fiscal restraints, and you mentioned the budget. We are
going to have to balance that budget. That's not going
to happen from Washington, DC. We're going to have to
impose those restraints. And finally, is the limitations on the scope, power,

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and jurisdiction of the federal government, telling them things like well,
you may not be involved in education, or energy, or
healthcare or the environment. These are things that were never
intended for the federal government. That's power that's been usurped
from the states, and we in the States are going
to have to take that power back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
And so if this thing convention actually occurs, it is limited.
You know, I'll open up the whole thing. What you
do is limited to only these three items, which I
think most of the American people agree with, I would
think correct. In other words, it wouldn't be unlimited about
all these other extraneous matters.

Speaker 8 (01:07:16):
No, it's absolutely not unlimited. In fact, you can't get
the convention until you have a supermajority of states that
agree on those limitations in advance. And so this idea
that somehow it could get completely out of control where
you go into convention with a supermajority that agree these
are the only things we can talk about. Anything outside
of that would be outside the jurisdiction of the convention

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and can't even be discussed. And even if it were, remember,
anything that comes out of convention is still just a suggestion,
and it has to be ratified by thirty eight states.
So this idea of what they call, quot unquote a
runaway convention is just crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Well, it's a it's one of those canards that not
based in reality. But it's a shout down those and
you'd have to have louse states signing on to this thing.
We don't have. Sadly, at this point two thirds of
the states that have Democrats and the legislature. Why would
the Democrats who are benefiting from the system currently want
to sign on with the Republicans. Well, what's the argument

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for Democrat legislatures to sign on? Yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 8 (01:08:18):
Travel around the country. I'm in Democrat legislatures all the time,
and I talk to Democrats right now. They're especially interested
in this because I say, do you like the idea
of Donald Trump or a conservative Supreme Court or Republican
Congress telling you what to do? Or do you want
to have your own power in your own state? You know,
first of all, I make sure i'm at least arms
distance away, because I don't want to get punched by

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a Democrat by.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Final a Democrat.

Speaker 8 (01:08:41):
But they hate the idea of Republicans singing control in DC,
and they like the idea restoring their own state sovereignty.
They have, for example, California, while it's very leftist, it
doesn't want to hear from President Trump. He doesn't want
to hear from the Supreme Court telling.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Them what to do.

Speaker 8 (01:08:55):
This is truly bipartisan. The only thing that does is
give power back to the states, and that means a
state like Illinois is going to get its power and
a state like Texas or Ohio going to get their
power back. So it is not a partisan issue.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Talk about the fiscal circumstance in America. Even though most
of us in talk radio kind of enjoy the presidency
of Donald Trump, we still have a thirty six trillion
dollar national debt, We still have one hundred trillion dollars
or more and unfundited liabilities. We still have a yearly
deficit of two trillion dollars, and it looks it's insoluble

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unless there's buy into the idea that we can't live
like this. We can't live on a credit card. And
in the next five years we're going to be close
to fifty trillion dollars in deficits accumulated deficits, which means
the interest on that will be close to two trillion
dollars a year, which is unsustainable. And so just describe
the fyscal health of this nation.

Speaker 8 (01:09:52):
Yeah, look, I think you've nailed it. In one of
the things that I want to make sure people are
realistic about, like God blessed Donald Trump and everything. This
is administration is trying to do big supporters, but we
also are realists. We understand that every single administration in
the history of the United States, that includes Donald Trump,
Ronald Reagan, and George Washington, with the only exception being
Calvin Coolidge, every administration has grown the size of the

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scope of the federal government. And so we can't expect Washington,
d c. To turn this ship around on its own.
It's also contrary to human nature. It is very difficult
to cut a dollar from the federal government because there's
a constituency for every dollar. We're seeing this in just
this absolute blowout from the deep state right now fighting
back against Donald Trump. If we're going to do it,

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we're going to have to do it. They're not going
to do it for us. And we can do this
through a convention of States. And by the way, if
you if you tell folks who are in Congress, but
now you have a constitutional obligation to balance the budget,
you can't do it by raising taxes or fees, then
they're going to do it, and they can tell they're
consituency with choice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
As far as the unfinited liabilities which are promised is
made by the government in the future, that number is
north of one hundred trillion dollars. I look at some
of the staggering numbers, and your eyes glaze over that.
I think many Americans are mathematically challenged, and that a
trillion dollars used to be a huge amount of money,

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and now it's become almost irrelevant. A billionaire and a
billionaire doesn't matter. And our debt is funded by one
of three reasons. One would be by grossly increasing taxes,
which American people don't want. That two is to grossly
cut federal spending and a lot of Americans don't like that,
but I do. And the third reason is to print

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more money. Why is each of those three undesirable?

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
Well, I mean, first of all, taxes, we are already
heavily burdened on taxes, especially the most productive people in
the country. And when you tax, and especially when you
tax income, you get less of whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
It is you tax.

Speaker 8 (01:11:56):
In other words, if you tax people's incomes and tax
it more and more heavily, you're going to get less
and less income. That's just the nature of taxation, and
we can only tax so much. In fact, if you
were to not just tax, but seize the wealth of
the richest one percent in America, it might, though I'm
not quite sure, cover our deficit for a single year.

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And so there just isn't enough money in the country
to tax our way out of it. So that's a
really important thing for people to understand that we get
the thing of sort of eat the rich and tax
the rich into the ground. Well, it's not going to
solve our fiscal wlows. When we talk about unfunded liabilities.
I think this is the giant elephant in the room
that most people don't talk about. There is so much

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money that we've committed to and it is unsustainable, and
there are, by the way, relatively simple fixes for this.
We could push back the retirement age a few years.
You know, when we set the retirement age, it was
believed that the life expectancy in the United States of
America was roughly sixty two to sixty five years, meaning
most people would not collect Social Security for a very
long time. Now for als around eighty one years. So

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we've extended this out and we have less people paying
the system. Mas is maths that's just unsustainable over the
long haul.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Another issue, of course, is term limits. We have it
for the president. It would have been wise in the
nineteen fifties to include the Congress. There's been proposals in
the past for the Congress to cut off their own
lifeline of money. It's amazing that Nancy Pelosi or Mitch
McConnell can go into Congress worth nothing, they come out
worth five hundred million dollars. It's incredible to watch that.

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And they do it because it favors being handed thither
and fro. And so the Congress itself, Democrat or Republican,
they never will vote to term limit themselves because that's
the source of their money in the court, the source
of the funding of their life. And am I correct
to say Mark Meckler that there have been numerous attempts

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by generally conservative Republicans to limit the term limits, to
make it a years or twelve years, just pick some number.
But the Congress themselves will never do this by themselves.

Speaker 8 (01:14:07):
Yeah, that's absolutely correct. In fact, right now, I would
say the biggest champion of term limits in the United
States government is Ted Cruz from my home state of Texas.
He proposes the term moments. Still every year it never
even gets a hearing, let alone getting voted on. It
never makes it through committee. It never makes it to committee,
and I would argue it never will and it never

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will because Republican or Democrat, most legislators are not willing
to limit their own terms. That's human nature again, So
if we want that done, we're going to have to
impose this discipline bill. I like to use the example of,
you know, if you've ever raised teenagers, the idea that
you would let your teenagers decide how much money the

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household spends, how much money they get to spend of
your money, whether they can drink alcohol one year away,
how long they can take your car and stay out
all the rules for themselves. There's not going to be
very many rules, and it's going to be a disaster.
There's going to be chaos. We the American people, are
the parents. We're in charge of our government. We're supposed

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to be sovereign. Unless we impose these controls on Congress
and the President and our government, generally, the government's going
to be out of control.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
I just got a text from the story and it
told me that there was an effort. When FDR went
out of office and he was in office elected four times,
Democrats and Republicans said enough is enough, and they tried
like crazy to include the Congress in that amendment to
the Constitution, and the Congress itself would not vote it.
It takes two thirds of the House, two thirds of

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the Senate, three fourths of the States, and the Congress
itself would not vote to post the same rules on
them they imposed upon the presidency. And I'm confident that
if Barack Hussein Obama was to had the ability to
run for a third or fourth term, he would have
done it. Of course, when Biden was in office, that
was Obama's third term, nonetheless, but it would go on

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forever and never stop. The insdom and keeping it to
eight years and there's great wisdom and keeping it to
twelve years at the maximum, maybe eight years when it
comes to the Congress. Lastly, the bureaucracy itself is so
called fourth estate. They're not dependent upon Republican Democrats that
are there forever. And as I understand that your proposal
Convention of the States would include that the bureaucracy itself,

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the agencies that essentially run the government.

Speaker 8 (01:16:26):
Yeah, I think that's important. I call this the fauci
of them, and nobody should ever sit in a position
of power like that for forty years in the federal government,
completely unaccountable to the American people, unaccountable frankly even to
Congress or the President. I see a lot of this
in Washington, DC right now. We're seeing this deep state
raise its ugly head. It's been around forever, it's going

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to continue to be around. And if we were to
der term moments on Congress and not term moments on
the bureaucracy, I think that would make things much worse.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
In fact, they'd be more powerful now. The leaking out
of the Department of Defense, the chief of Staff, others
being fired because they're leaking constantly to the New York Times,
et cetera. And it's constant leaking. And if these individuals
understand that I'm here for eight to twelve years and
I'm going to lose my power over the economy, over
the environment, over the tax system after eight to twelve

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years and have to go back into the fields and work,
it would change their attitude completely. So I think it's
wise to say you've got to include the fourth estate.
Those working in the bureaucracy. Without that, they would have
more power.

Speaker 8 (01:17:28):
Correct, Yeah, they would have more power. Bill I would
add in one more and this is immensely popular with
the American people. If you collect a paycheck from the
federal government in any department, in any capacity, collected, appointed,
or just as a job, then you should be prohibited
forever from lobbying the federal government in any way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
What about the federal judiciary, what about judges that we
need thirty to forty hours.

Speaker 8 (01:17:53):
Yeah, we need term moments there to look at the
time of the founding when we said that they have
life terms, that term was never used. It doesn't say
life terms. Everybody thinks it's for life. It says on
good behavior. And back then, by the way, it was
considered poor behavior. If he's floor in public, that would
literally be enough to cause you to be removed from

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the bench. We never expected people to sit on bench
thirty forty years. When that started. Average life expectancy for
a male with fifty four years of age, average appointment
age was forty eight, and so we expected five or
six years on the bench. I think we definitely need
term limits for the federal bench.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Otherwise they could not have anticipated in seventeen eighty seven
that you're going to have judges on the bench into
their eighties and beyond. And it's thinking. They never conceived that.

Speaker 8 (01:18:40):
No very few people lived that old back then, so
they never conceived of that. They never conceived that anybody
would want to do that. And so there are certain
things that the Framers just didn't foresee because the future changed,
life's expectancy changed, They could not have known these things.
So we also, by the way, if you look at
every study that's ever been done in the federal judicial,
it says that federal judges become more amenable to a

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large administrative state the longer they're on the bench. Again,
human nature, they are part of that apparatus. Their offices
are funded by the federal government, their staffs are funded
by the federal government, so of course they become more
and more friendly to the federal government over time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Generally speaking, Mark Meckler, how can the average American get involved?
What is your website of any Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:19:25):
Convention of State dot com. Sign the petition, click the
take action tab, and you can follow me on x
at Mark Meckler.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Okay, that's the website. But nineteen States have approved that
Ohio is ready to go. If a veg Ramaswami or
David Yost, either one becomes the governor, both favorite convention
in the States, et cetera. It's going to happen, and
it's getting closer. And all I can say is good luck.
I have hope for Donald Trump to do it, but
I don't know. It takes the people to arise. Mark Meckler,

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once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Bill, God bless bless America. Thank you very much.
Mark Mackler. Right there, it is how you could take
governance in your own hands and do what's correct for
the American people. We can't live like this. We can't
live on a credit card. Republican and Democrats, We've been
living on too many credit cards, and it's got to stop.
Bill Cunningham with you every afternoon on news radio seven

(01:20:17):
hundred WLWS. President, what do you say, people who knew
that luxury jet as a personal gift to you, why
not leave it by ABC? Fath news?

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Why not only only ABC?

Speaker 9 (01:20:28):
Well, a few of you would, let me tell you,
you should be embarrassed asking that question. They're giving us
a free jet. I could say no, no, no, don't
give us. I want to pay you a million or
four hundred million or whatever it is. Well I can
say thank you very much. You know, there was an
old golfer named Sam Snee. Did you ever hear you

(01:20:49):
want adg at tournament? Who was a great golfer, and
he had a motto. When they give you a putt,
you say thank you very much, You pick up your
ball and you walk to the next doll. A lot
of people are stupid. They say no, no, I insist,
start putting it, and then they put it, they miss it,
and their partner gets angry at them. You know what,
remember that Sam Steve. When they give you a putt,

(01:21:10):
you pick it up and you walk to the next
hole and you say thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
What he Hello, Piet and I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 8 (01:21:25):
Rock.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
We have many issues and that what happens at the
friendly confines. They give me the putt, put it in
your pocket and walk off your your golfing buddies, do
you give each other putts or you make them earn it.
You got to be able to pull something out and
if it's smaller than that, you can have the putt
so all I can tell you like a six hawk
one right there. Anyway, talk about that, A wise man said,

(01:21:46):
didn't the Nation of France give us the Statue of Liberty? Yes,
we paciously accepted it. Now Trump is not getting the jet.
It's going to the Department of Defense. Then it's going
to the Library of Congress that runs the Presidential library.

Speaker 10 (01:21:58):
And in the meantime, we're going to use it because
Billying has a lot of difficulties right now. In his
first administration, Trump, you know, put in an order for
a new air force once because it's like forty seven
plus years old and kind of important. Well, but once
again Trump has taken an issue that ninety percent agree
with it. Should you accept the use of a half
a billion? Yes, and turn it around and force the

(01:22:21):
Democrats to to be stupid, to be stupid, and Schumer
is going to come up the works.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Because of this. And number one, it goes to the
Department of Stupid, then it goes to the Library of
Congress that runs the presidential libraries. He never gets He's
on his own house his plane. By the way, how's
Trump's playing exact? All the guys have plane plane. He's
got his own Air Force. He's got his plane air
Force one. And now this off to the side, he's
got a brand new seven thirty seven. How dumb does

(01:22:48):
Chuck Schumer look when then he come out and say,
I'm going to kind of slow play, slow play the
Department of Justice nominations. Yeah, you're gonna have speeches constantly.
Is that doing the American people? The folks any good? None,
It's another one that's eighty twenty issue. He's just wonderful too.

Speaker 10 (01:23:03):
Now the Democrats also against the executive order to slash
drug prices.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Yes, why are they going to do nothing? Bernie Sanders
has said for decades do this. So he was confronted yesterday, Okay,
we finally have a president going to do it. We
shouldn't pay the drug prices all around the world by
us carrying their research. Another issue that ninety five percent.
Bernie Sanders said, well, you know, we have to look
into it. This is exactly what they want. You give
them what they want and they say, okay, we don't

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want that. We don't want that. I'm sorry. And by
the way, Max Montoya is sixty five years old today.
Wasn't his number sixty five? Max Montoya? Yes, yeah, also
a great man. And also his daughter does a great
job in TV. And also Jose blaming on Rehope stud
Berg is today.

Speaker 10 (01:23:47):
He thinks his birthday today, right, I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
He was born May thirteenth, nineteen sixty five, does not
make him sixty years old. That is sad. And Jose
Rio is sixty. That's old, isn't it. Ace in the
ninety ninety World Series Championship team twenty five years old.
And by the way, if that team had won the
fourth game two to one, they had nobody left. Hatcher

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wasn't going to play. Eric Davis is done. Rio said,
I'm done and play The Nasty Boys all had arm problems.
They're done. Barry Larkin said, we were in trouble if
we had to play another game. I did us a
solid one. Anytime we'll use another one here, even a
small one. Tell locally, we'll take it. Don't take a
gift like that, like the statue of Liberty. By the way,

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I got a note here from Joe Dieters is from
Joe Deaters that his brother, the Buzzard, is sixty six
years old today. A buzzard, how about that? Buzzer's pretty
good man. Wow, Max Montoya sixty five buzz Luke buzz
beaters and six Jose Rio sixty What a trio your youth?
When Jose Rio is sixty years old, should we call

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him a sing happy birthday? I'm afraid to that's true.
That's good, points good, yes, all right, give me. I
have another question for the wild Man. Are you done
with these jet because Rocky knows the answer to these
and I'll give a shot. Give it a shot. Here
we go segment. Here's the question for the wild Man.
Does he have a media pass? By the way, no,

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you don't have me all right. As you may know,
the Chicago Cubs Pete Rose was batting. He had forty
one one, and at some point the answer was take
him out of the lineup because I wanted to get
forty one two in Wrigley Field. I get him out down,
get him out, he goes. That would be a disaster. Yeah.

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So I have this note here from your buddy the
wild Man, who says the following, I see if you
see can get him to answer this question. I bet
Rocky has no clue about the answer to this question.
I said, okay, what it was?

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
It is one last question to give to that lame
ass segment and Rocky boyman, my buddy, my buddy, wild man,
what the Cubs pitcher did Pete Rose collect hit number
forty one ninety one A regularly feel to tie Ty
Cobbs record. Do not give numb nuts any hints he's
referring to you. I think I know, I think I

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don't know who was on the Patterson right, yeah, person,
Reggie Patterson. I'm a West Sider. I know these. You
wouldn't know that when I was just about to say that.
But according to the wild Man in the Elias Sports
for your Hope, actually that's not the record. After a
full investigation and all the hits of Ty Cobb, he

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only had forty one eighty nine, didn't have forty one
ninety one and forty one eight.

Speaker 10 (01:26:42):
You go back and watch the video, Yes, watch the
video of Tyke black and White videote those records.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Who knows who kept those records? Of course, but you
up that's Joe Biden bother. Well, I'll give you no okay,
I'll give you one he gave earlier. This is pretty good.
When Pete Rose got forty one ninety two at Riverfront
Eric Show everyone. Everyone knows that. And he hit at
the left field, Get down, get down, get down the call?
But who was the catcher who was catching at that point?

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Who later, I give you a hint, became a pretty
damn good manager. But he was behind the plate, uh,
Padres for the Padres and Eric show was on the
mountain Bruce poaching.

Speaker 8 (01:27:24):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
That's pretty well about that, right, rock Rock knowses Pete
Rose stuff for tomorrow. Boy, he's been he's been studying
the hit king, pretty good stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:27:35):
Maybe the wild Man can give you more questions tomorrow
because he is going to appear on the Eddie, Rocky
and Mo Show at the Holy Grail?

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Boy, where's sank? Where's feet? His face somewhere? Where's sek
four thirty? Can't wait?

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Can't you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Don't big time him now?

Speaker 8 (01:27:51):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
Don't big time rock? You know not now? Lastly, before
we go to the segment, we've already had sports in
the bottom of the higher newscats. But that's a different story. Yeah,
but we have more about Jordan Hudson. Yes, huh. There
was a transgender man slash woman who appeared with her
for the Miss Main competition and Jordan struck up a

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friendship with the transgender about media coverage, and according to
this transgender woman who's now a woman, she looked pretty good,
by the way, look very attractive.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
I can't say that, but she looked hot as a cucomer.
But nonetheless cucombers aren't too hot. But nonetheless, according to
Jordan Hudson, that she related how much she's in love
with Bill Belichick, she's found her soulmate, and that those
two at some point are going to tie the knot.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Don't care? Does he?

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Does he child? That CONTROVERSI baby carriage and all that stuff.
You know, maybe that how about that wedding.

Speaker 10 (01:28:55):
The big controversy now is if do you recall when
the Daily Mail released the video the ring doorbell cam
video of Bill Belichick outside like kind of doing the
walker shame thing. Yes, apparently that was Jordan Hudson's home.
The question is how did that video get released? If
his security your security camera, I would think the only

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one that has access to that is the person's whose
house is.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
And this sort nuts it. So a lot of the
things you can go, I mean, is she blackmailing him?

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
Does she have more videos? More door careleaders? They listen,
you're gonna keep me along for the ride. Here he
did videos freak offs? What about freak an issue? That's
another issue. Now we're talking about serious man with the coach.
I can't say he's going to he's going to coach
for North He absolutely has. If he wins, no one

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will care. What if then everybody's gonna care? Then what
what about Trey Hendrickson? Does he care?

Speaker 10 (01:29:53):
He says he won't play a game for the Bengals
unless he gets a new contract.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Did he not?

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Can't say, give me some sports, can't say.

Speaker 7 (01:30:00):
Will heave the student reporters of proud service of your
local Tame Star heating in their conditioning dealers Tamestar quality
you can feel in Northern Kentucky cal Johnson Heating and
cooling at eight five nine four seven to two sixty
fifty one. Can't st That's it, Trey Hendrickson said today.

Speaker 8 (01:30:19):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
He showed up at the Bengals voluntary workout not good
in street close. He will not play for the Bengals
under his current contract, in apparent escalation of his dispute
with the team. Remember when Carson Palmer tried that, Yeah
got a hard work. Actually he didn't play, but you're
certainly not going to sit on her hands. He felt

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prompted to dress the media after Zach Taylor communicated to
him via text text that he would be fined if
he doesn't attend the team's three day mandatory mini camp,
which isn't scheduled until June to tenth. What happens to
this rock? The communications you have, you can talk to
people anytime anywhere there you go.

Speaker 10 (01:31:01):
Well, so Zach Taylor got to hold a tree Hendrick
and said, look, I know this front office. I know
these people. They ain't been in the ain't budget. I'd
be better get over here, Mike. I'm gonna tell you
better get over here. The long history of staying true.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
To You're thirty one. What's he gonna make like fifteen mil?
And he wants like twenty five mil. Well, the reports
are they're gonna pay more than that amount.

Speaker 10 (01:31:22):
But then his amount changed after all the other you know,
Miles Garrett, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Goal, he's got these huge deals. Well, well now I want.

Speaker 10 (01:31:29):
Something in line with the new top defensive line payment.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
And why do you sign the contract? Then he said
to earn fifteen point eight million in base salary this season.

Speaker 10 (01:31:40):
Your reaction rock, he's gonna I got a question, and
I got that question. So so Trey Hendrickson, when deer
Park needed money, he stepped up and held for deer Park.
We're now Trey Henderson needs money. How come deer Park
and you, sir, don't step up and give him the
money he deserves.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Tit for tat any more? Sports sake? Answer the question?
What is the question? The question? Yes, he was there
when you needed him. Yeah, you got the favorite thousand
dollars for the sports teams. You've got to give him something.
Go fund Meg. But a guy, I assume he's got
a hundred minute how much he's made so far, like

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fifty million, sixty million, like that?

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Like No.

Speaker 10 (01:32:20):
Now, the one that really needs to be there is
schmar Stewart because he is a project.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
He is a guy with all.

Speaker 10 (01:32:25):
The measurables, but for whatever reason in his career, is
not but now to turn that into production. So he
needs to be in the camp, learning the techniques, learning
the defense, learning the scheme so he can take all
the talent and turn it into production. But he's not
there because of whatever reason. With the contest good money,
some sort of guarantee or something.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
I don't know. We're in a crisis right now. Answer,
I love it. I love crisis segment Give me out
in the Stooge Report, Please will you?

Speaker 7 (01:32:54):
And of the Reds and White Sox tonight in Game one,
Trey Hendrickson and more, gonna play, not going to play.
We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

Speaker 6 (01:33:05):
You never admit you're in a swamp. Whenever let a
picture tell you if you're in a swamp. Number I
would tell people, do you do one of six things
when you get into a wall?

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
They are okay, all right?

Speaker 6 (01:33:16):
Closer to the plate for the way from the plate,
up in the box, back in the box, choke up
in the bat more, choke down the bat more, make
it heavier, make it lighter. Never change your swing. Sounds
like a swing got you into the big leags.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
Sounds like a P Diddy makes perfect sense. Freak party there,
p Diddy. I don't know. We all got problems. That's
how you handle them. Correct segment. Thank you very much, Yes, sir, Rocky,
thank thank you. Let's continue with more. Wild Man has
more questions for the segment on news Radio seven hundred
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