5-27-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie discusses how crime in Cincinnati is effecting northern Kentucky with Commonwealth attorney Rob Sanders. Also John Lott breaks down the changes in border security. Finally Brendan Cull from the Cincinnati Chamber of Commerce picks up the pieces from Taste of Cincinnati.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Bill cunning in the Great American Welcome this Tuesday after
and in the tries day day after Memorial Day, and
Red's Baseball takes off about six forty to night in
Kansas City. They won a game, not against the Chiefs,
but the Royals. Score I think was seven to four.
I guess Kansas City scored a couple of safeties. So
we'll back out of tonight's see what happens. They're one
game below five hundred, so they're on their march to

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glory and for some the judgment seat of God. But
Jonan you and on now is the great Rob Sanders
of Northern Kentucky. And Rob, welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show the day after Memorial Day. We have many
things to discuss, including my experiences at the Taysts of
Cincinnati yesterday, which I think was extremely positive. But once
again a police officer, police officer was almost killed by

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someone stealing cars. But you told me off the air
that the great Phil Tolliver died yesterday, and he was
a living legend. We had some cases together. He helped
me with Willis in Northern Kentucky. There in Covington, he
got me to do things I didn't think I could do.
I became a Kentucky colonel with Phil Tolliver and you
set off. The other force has been disrupted in Northern Kentucky.

(01:08):
Please explain, well.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Willy, if anybody that's ever watched Star Wars, you know
when they talk about that disruption in the force, that
you feel means that somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Has passed away.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
With that disruption in the force in the Northern Kentucky
bar is the passing of Phil Tolliver, who was one
of the greatest attorneys Northern Kentucky, maybe all of Kentucky
has ever known, but certainly one of the most well
known and well liked attorneys in Northern Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
He was a character. He was one of a kind.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
They do not make anybody like they make Phil Tolliver.
Some people might say that's a good thing, but nevertheless,
he was most certainly one of a kind and beloved
amongst attorneys all over northern Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
And you know, there was an old radio dj.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
He's not employed as a radio DJ anymore, but he
also used to have a law license, and he used
to be real fond of suing people. And Bill used
to brag that he was the only person that had
been sued by that former attorney more times than I had,
And so he held that over my head for a
long time, and we always joked about it and shared
good times amongst the stress of having frivolous lawsuits filed

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against us. But nevertheless, we're in the process of mourning
the great Phil Taliver and saying goodbye to him. And
of course our thoughts and prayers are with his family,
all of his friends, which there are tons of, all
of his former workers, all of his former employees. Everybody
is mourning the passing of the Great Phil Tolliver.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I can recall in the city of Newport I had
said some intemperate things about the great people living in Newport.
I forget what they were, but I know one time
Tony Bender wanted to see some expression of the First Amendment.
So we went to a facility in Newport that featured
a dancer with impressionistic dancing that included setting herself on
fire and to the tune if I bring you fired,

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Da Dada, and she would put some sort of fluid
on her body, light herself and run around the stage.
I said, Tony, this is not too entertaining. Whatever ridiculous,
stupid things. So I said some intemperate things about Newport,
and I found myself in the crosshairs of one of
the one of the one of the pelosis over there.
And Phil said, the only way for you to get

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out of this, they're going to arrest you if you
come back to I said, arrest me for what he
hit me. Go to the city council in Newport and
apologized to the city council for saying intemperate things about
the toothless, illiterate hillbillies that lived in Newport and the
strippers only make money if they set themselves on fire,
and so he said, you'd better be serious about this.

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When I got there, I said, these guys are serious.
And they had some Newport cops standing around as if
they were going to arrest me.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I said, you got to be kidding me.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So Phil Tolliver and I and his claim to fame
in my regard is his father buried my grandfather, who
was the mayor of Ellesmere slash Erlanger in the nineteen thirties.
My grandfather died, and Phil Tolliver's family was in the
funeral business. He buried, he buried people and he buried
my grandfather, and so Phil Tolliverer. I'm sorry to hear

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that he died yesterday and I wish his family. Well,
let's get on to a matter I saw somewhere that
you know, the hinting case continues to reverberate, and that
is the three individuals who survived after the stealing of
akia in Edgewood. And of course this relates to the father,
Rodney Hinton, thirty eight years old, is going to be

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tried for the murder of Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson. And
I read with interest that there were charges at least
filed by you against the Anthony Bullocks, the nineteen year
old who stole allegedly, I won't say allegedly, he stole
a kia in northern Kentucky. Now, what's happening with that case,
because that's an ancillary case. And I would assume that
the other two Durrell, Austin and or Sincere Grigsby misspelled

(04:46):
the word sincere. At least the first name is spelled
cyn ser. Maybe the mother tried to spell Sincere and
couldn't get it done.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
But what's this. I'll be in trouble for that one too.
What's the latest with the Anthony Bullocks.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, Willie, we have been working with Edgewood police on
the stolen vehicle. It was a Kia Tell You Ride
at twenty twenty one great key to Tell You Ride
that was stolen out of a driveway of a home
in Edgewood, Kentucky to Fine City at Edgewood really has
been just collabbered with stolen vehicles of late. You know
that that is one of the downsides to being one

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of the most livable cities in all of America is
when you have really nice homes and really low crime rates. People,
you know, not just people thieves, know that that's right
for the pickens when it comes to places to steal
good cars because people are you know.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
They drive drive nice vehicles.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
They're used to leaving their doors unlocked and their windows
down and things like that. And Edgewood a few other cities,
Fort Mitchell and Lakeside Park they've just been inundated in
the last year or so with people stealing cars. But
especially these key is because the keys are prone to
you can steal them using a LASH drive or a

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USB port from a phone charger. Apparently there's videos out
there on TikTok or Internet or something like that on
how to do this.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Apparently the Anthony Bullocks was one of these folks that
must have watched those videos because he was captured on
security camera taking this car from this driveway and he
was interviewed by Cincinnati Police in connection I believe to
that hinting case and admitted to stealing this vehicle out
of the driveway and edgewoods to the Edgewood Police Detective
Mike Winkler has obtained a warrant for his arrest.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
We anticipate we'll.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Be presenting that case to the kent County Grand Jury
in short order. He's looking at a class sea felony
because that Kia wasn't cheap.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
It was valued over ten thousand.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Dollars, which makes it a class sea felony in Kentucky.
And you know, as I remind your listeners all the time, Willie's,
we still prosecute criminals on the south side of the river.
Saw those car thiefs from the north side of the river.
Got to keep that in mind before they decide to
come over here and thieve their latest vehicle. They can
do all the even they want on the north side
and see how that turns out, and on the south
side of the river, that'll lands you in prison.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Do you have some sense as well?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
The nine millimeter gun that was in the hands of
Ryan Hinton when he was shot by a Cincinnati police officer.
Was that gun in the Kia? Was that the gun
owned by the owner of the Kia in Edgewood?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, not this key, Willie.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
They're you know, the gun thefts and car thefts kind
of go hand in hand because that's you know, the
these thieves come along from car to car and they're
just pulling on the door handles to see what opens.
And when people either intentionally or accidentally leave their keyfobs
in the vehicle, of course the doors pop right open.
If you're like me and you happen to have a

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gun in about every vehicle that you own, that's a bad.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Mistake to make.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
That if you're going to keep a gun in a car,
you most definitely need to keep that car locked. I
would recommend even keeping it locked while it's in your
own garage, because it's somebody that's had my garage broken
into and had a gun stolen out of my pickup
truck in my in my own garage. You know, just
locking your garage isn't always enough if those thieves break in.

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And that's where almost all of the stolen guns that
are in the hands of drug dealers and thieves and
other hoodlums and felons running around on the streets that
are using these guns and crimes, almost all of them
had been stolen out of somebody's car somewhere. That said,
we don't have any indication that this vehicle that was
stolen contained a gun. The stolen gun was not part

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of the charges. However, all over northern Kentucky we probably
take a stolen gun report, if not every day, every
week where somebody has come along, tried car doors and
found the car unlocked in a gun inside.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
What about when I talked to coppers, they give conflicting advice.
Should you lock your car or not, assuming nothing of
value is in your car, assuming you don't have a gun.
There a wall at cash because these guys having car
break ins is a pain in the neck. When I
was at to Taste, I was there yesterday, I walked
from courts straight down to find there was several instances

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I saw a glass enter around the curb with a
brick nearby. Cops tell me it is ubiquitous. It is
happening all the time. And if you don't have anything
of value in the car, why not leave it unlocked
so the thief can get in the car, find out
there's nothing there, and get out without the hassles of
dealing with the car breaking.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Well, it's kind of you know, fifty one half turned,
I should say six to one half dozen the other there,
Willy says, a fifty to fifty decision. In my experience,
a lot of the car thieves in the cases that
I see coming across my desk, and a lot of
the car thieves has come along trying the door handle,
and if the door doesn't open, they don't get in
the car. Now, that's not to say that nobody breaks

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through the car windows. Certainly, smashing grabs happen, but that's
usually when the thieves can see something of value inside
the car, so they know if they break that window,
they can grab whatever it is of value and they
can take off, run the and be gone long before
the cops ever get there. But we rarely see a
case of people smashing the car just to search through

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it in hopes of finding something of value, because in
order to do that they have to stick around. There's
a better chance the police get there before they find
anything of value. So my recommendation is lock everything. I'm
for one, find it rather disconcerting that anybody has been
through my car at any time without my permission. So
I would recommend folks lock their car. But especially if

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you're even sometimes potentially keeping a gun in your car,
it's better to be in the habit of locking the
car because the last thing you want to do is
put one of your guns on the street in the
hands of a criminal.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
One other issue, At least in hamlin A County, it
is hard to go to prison. And so if assuming
the murder was not involved in these three individuals, they're
not charged with that, the odds of one of these
three spending a day in jail for a car break
in is almost non existent. The system just grinds you.
I've had friends of mine having to go to juvenile
court six seven, eight, nine times, and they don't take

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it seriously. Are you saying that in Kenton County you
take it seriously.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Absolutely, Willie.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
We put car thieves in prison garden here every day
of the week. Every day that we have courts, somebody's
going to prison for either stealing a car, stealing something
from a car, you name it. We convict them, we
put them in prison. Now, the juvenile system in Kentucky
is probably almost as broken as it is in Ohio.
I'm not claiming juveniles are going to prison for this stuff.
Generally speaking, it's a rotating door in the juvenile court system,

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and we just have to sit back and wait until
they turn eighteen. And then as soon as they turn eighteen,
we end up convicting them as adults because nobody taught
them a lesson as a juvenile. And then, yes, they
end up going to prison for those stolen cars.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm on Fountain Square yesterday about to one o'clock. I
run into Brian Hamrick of The Power of Five. Talked
to a couple of CBD cops. They had an incident
a few hours earlier when the Taste was shutting down
on Sunday night, had car break ins up and down
Vine Straight, multiple break ins, and there was a ring
camera that had a video of someone dressed a certain
one and they identified that person as leaving the Taste,

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and they had the same clothing on, and so they
radioed ahead the Fountain Square saying, hey, someone may be
coming there, to describe what the person looked like. And
the officer saw the person. This is like one am
in the morning on that would have been Monday morning,
after Sunday night, and he's hey, stop, I want to
talk to you for a minute. He immediately ran like
a jack rabbit. And not too many cops I know

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can outrun an eighteen or nineteen year old, but somehow
this one cop was able to keep up with him,
and he pulled out his taser. And he pulled out
his taser because that's what he's instructed to do. He
did not know that this car thief had a gun.
The kid stops, pulls the gun out from his waistband
and walks toward the officer with the gun pointed at him,

(12:48):
and the officer had the taser out. He discharged the
taser and thanked God the taser took effect. How from
your experiences, the distance was about twelve to fifteen feet.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
If you're fifteen feet away from someone, and thank God
that this punk had on summer clothing, what are the
odds of that taser taking effect from a fifteen foot
distance before you're murdered.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
They're not great, Willy.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's not certainly nothing that I would trust because tasers. Again,
and I'm going off the experience of having launched hundreds,
if not thousands, of police body camera videos, I can't
count the number of times that I have seen a
taser either not be effective or be minimally effective in
neutralizing a threat. And when somebody is not just a

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threat to your safety but a threat to your life,
I certainly don't want to gamble my life on a taser.
And I'm certain that that cop is probably breathing a
sigh of relief. I haven't seen the reports on this, Willie.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I did hear about it.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
And I thought, well, chances are he had to show
restraint because there was probably not a safe place for
him to fire a gun because of whatever was in
his backdrop, in other words, other people behind him. But
if it was a situation where he drew his taser
first and then had a gun drawn on him, well
that's just a really unlucky situation.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
That cop is lucky to be alive.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Probably ought to go out and get some lottery tickets
while he's on a roll. But it's certainly not a
situation that I want to be in. It sounds like
it worked out for everybody. The criminal going to jail
still alive, should have been dead. Nevertheless, this kind of
craziness that we ask our law enforcement to confront every

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day of the week, twenty four hours a day. They're
putting their lives on the line, putting themselves in dangerous
situations to people like you and me don't have to.
And you just got to thank God when things work
out for the better, because it could have been really
bad for either party. It could have been another dead criminal,
or it could have been another dead cop. And I

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know that they just had another officer line of duty
death up in Ohio, up near Columbus over the weekend.
That's just a horrible situation. Thank god it wasn't one
of our local officers. But you know, prayers to that
officer's family up in Ohio. That's you know, here on
a Tuesday that feels like a Monday, but they're mourning
the death of their beloved law enforcement officer. And it's

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certainly something that we hate to see, and it could
have very easily had been something that we saw again
on right in the middle of the tounst Town Cincinnati,
on Fountain Square of all places.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
And that eighteen year old who was born in Jamaica
would not have pulled out the weapon unless he intended
to use it walking toward the cop. And thank god,
split second I wouldn't note. This morning, at seven thirty
am in Middletown, Ohio, a person was shot and killed
by Middletown police after they pointed after he pointed a
gun at the officers conducting a search warrant. And it
just it seems like there is more brazen activity pointing

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guns at cops, running away from cops with guns and
having guns in your possession is a terrible incident. And
I and the man that was shot in killed was
considered a suspect and had multiple prior convictions of violence
and drug arrest.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
But it's said, well we got to run.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Rob once again, stay safe and once again we know
the passing of legendary attorney Phil Tolliver and his absence
will be felt throughout northern Kentucky, in fact all of Ohio.
And once again, Rob, thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Thank you, my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Willie is great talking to you and God Bliss America.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Let's keep it going.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Let's continue with more news coming up next to the
home of your Reds playing tonight starting about six forty A.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
News radio seven hundred WW.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Thank you, Tom Renneman. Rech Baseball kicks off about six
forty tonight. First bitch about seven forty one, game below
five hundred. They're in Kansas City, then over the weekend
in Chicago, then back home. But until then, I think
my conversation with Rob Sanders is something we all should
take to heart. When you think you live in a
great community like Edgewood, Kentucky, safe and sane, not much

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going on, and all of a sudden the criminals that
come out of Cincinnati say, you know what, those are
happy hunting grounds for those who want to steal cars
using some sort of keyfob situation to break into a
KI or a Hyundai and away you go, hoping at
a minimum that there's a gun in the car, some
cash or credit cards or whatever. But it's a largely

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a free event. Not much happens unless you're in Kentucky,
because in Ohio, literally not much happens. The juveniles doing
most of these steps are not dealt with harshly whatsoever
in Hamlety County Juvenile Court because Judge Kerry Bloom, who's
in charge of Hamny count and Juvenile Court, doesn't want
to put anybody in jail. I don't know yet, but

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those three individuals who are alive from the incident involving
Ryan Hinton, Jirell Austin and de Anthony Bullocks and Sincere
Grigsby a likely all have previous criminal records and that
they were known to the system ahead of time, and
the system didn't deal with it. When they had a
chance to deal with it, they ignored it, and so
metastasizes becomes a regular event. Many of these so called

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car break ins maybe thirty to forty to fifty over
a month period, and over two or three month period.
These individuals think it's no big deal. When yours truly
found himself on Court Street to yesterday walking down to
the taste of Cincinnati, which by the way, was fabulous,
It was wonderful. There were some protesters making a fool
of themselves, but that happens all the time. Many times

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protesters are simply miserable people that won't want to make
you feel as miserable as they feel, so they yell,
shout and scream and do stupid things because they're stupid
people that they have nothing in their life to do productive,
so they want to bring you down to their level.
Hopefully it doesn't happen. I saw numerous examples of car
windows in and around the street, along with bricks nearby,

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and it's so frequent anymore that many do not bother
to call the police because what can the police do.
Come take a report, yes, maybe make an insurance claim,
but each one of those are about one thousand dollars,
and it's a no harm, no foul kind of an
offence until something happens. I found myself about one pm
yesterday in front of the federal building, the Potter Stewart

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Federal Building, right next to the bus station there and
right next to Fountain Square, and I ran into the
Great Brian Hamrick of the Power five and we had
a brief conversation, and then I talked to a couple
of in uniformed police officers about what happened. Several hours earlier,
about midnight, there were reports of these car thieves, these

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individuals breaking into cars, and a ring camera had recorded
one of them wearing distinctive GARB. And so the call
went out from the Taste as it was over that
this individual seemingly was sighted walking away from the Taste,
which was over by P and G and down Fifth Avenue,
walking toward Fountain Square, and the radio had to a

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Copper two in uniform. This is like one o'clock in
the morning on one am, it would be Monday morning
that this individual dressed a certain way is coming. We
think he's involved in the car breakans Urd Brian Combs
talking about him about ten minutes ago. And so there
was a brief chase that ensued. And I don't know
how you keep up with a twenty one or twenty

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two year old wanting to get away. I mean, God
bless these cops and track them down. But in this case,
the officer saw him and the first thing he did
was prepared to pull out his taser. That's a policy
and procedure, and he said stop, stop, I like to
talk with He took off and the officer began to
chase him with a taser in his hand. Unbeknownst to

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this officer, this twenty one year old had a gun,
a nine milimeter in his waistband. He stops quickly turns
how long does that take a quarter of a second,
and pointed the gun at the police officer, who quickly
discharged his taser. It was a miracle the taser took effect.

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As you know, most of the time, at least half
the time, it doesn't take effect. You either miss or
it sticks in clothing. It has to hit the skin
in the fullest of electricity. Discharged, and this individual then
dropped his gun. A half a second later, we'd have
another dead Cincinnati police officer on her hands. Because they
pull out their tasers because they're told to do so
and not use guns. And after all, if the officer

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wasn't sure he had a gun anyway, which he didn't,
how do you pull out your weapon on someone on
a car break in running away from me. You don't
do that unless the guy has a gun. I'm referring to,
of course, Ryan Hinton, in which case all bets are off.
This officer is fortunate to be alive. And one or
two cops I spoke to down there in uniform said,

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we're just thankful that it turned out that way. It
was real close. Brings to mind the murder of Sonny
Kim and Madisonville. He got a call of a man
with a gun in the street. He was working an
extra shift that gets some more money for his family.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Shows up.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
He sees an older woman with seemingly somebody behind her.
Of course not we're he's dead, so what we think
We know what he saw, but he came out with
a taste instead of coming out with his service weapon.
The person behind him was his name Humming something like that,
reached around his mother and shot three or four times
at Sonny Kim, and one of the bullets went between

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a seam of a vest and murdered Sonny Kim in
uniform right there. And so sometime this week or next
our new Hamilety County Prosecutor, County pillag has to decide
what to do. That is with that police officer. Because
Ryan Hinton was running parallel to him, trying to get

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away with a gun in his hands. His fellow officers
are yelling gun, gun, gun. How long would it have
taken Ryan Hinton, much like that criminal in Fountain Square,
or much like that Hummond's murderer that killed Sonny Kim,
to go from running away to reaching back and shooting.
In fact, a friend of mine from Nashville on my

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National show, sent me a video of it. Was an
identical situation involving Ryan Hinton in which Nashville police recalled
a man with a gun on a bridge in downtown Nashville.
They show up and they walk up to the guy
and say, hey, I want to talk with you. He
immediately took off like a jack rabbit. He took about
six or seven steps, and at that point the guy

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running away kind of reached his gun was in his
right hand. He reached underneath his left armpit and shot
several shells at the police officer, hitting the cop in
the leg. The officer returned fire and mortally wounding the
fleeing fellon. These things happen in a snap of a second,

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and they're trained to behave in a certain way, and
thank god the men and women are out there. I
can only imagine if they weren't. It's hard to recruit
for cops anymore because incidents that take place almost every day,
like in Morrow County. Sheriff John Hinton this morning identified
Daniel Weston Sheer, thirty one, as the person who killed

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a deputy on Memorial Day. The dead police officer was
simply responding to a routine, routine police needed event and
he shows up and we're not sure all the facts
yet because it involved domestic violence and they're still being developed,
but the officer is dead. They didn't return fire quick

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enough and this officer is murdered, and once again we
have a dead police officer on our hands, which is
just incredibly sad, incredibly sad. And we'll see what comes
of that. And I also would note that this morning,
at seven thirty in the morning, there was another incident
where in Middletown, and by the way, I want to

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give the officer's name who was murdered, and his name
is Daniel Sheer, and he was dead responding for police services.
But this morning, at seven thirty in the morning, a
typical routine event took place in Middletown where a warrantser
is sought to be served and the police show up
to serve some warrants and then suddenly it's a life
and death situation once again, in which Middletown police responded

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and shot the person trying to kill them before it
was too late. And if you think something's going on,
you're exactly correct. A lot of it has to do
with the facts just to break down the law in
order to break down of society and all that kind
of stuff. But a lot of it has to do
with the idea that the ability to commit minor offenses

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for a long period of time without actually having to
face consequences is certainly available right now. And the headline
is in Middletown armed man fatally shot by police during
execution of a search ard in the Middletown a man
has died and a woman was hurt of it after
a shooting involving police in Middletown happened at seven thirty

(25:58):
am on Garden Avenue when they Special Operations Unit was
exhunting a narcotic search worn. It was a long investigation
of narcotics dealer, a trafficker. According to police. Officers arrived
about seven o'clock this morning, announced themselves at the door.
That's when police set a man to open the door
while displaying a gun. The little time, police said, the

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officer fired their gun, fatally shooting the man. Another person
was also shot taken nearby hospital and of course, the
body worn cameras of the incident are available and no
officers were injured. The suspect who was armed pointed a
gun at the police. In this case has a prior
conviction for aggravated robbery and prior arrest for drugs and

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a bunch of other stuff. It's the way things are.
And so when I asked the rob Sanders in law enforcement,
what do you do?

Speaker 4 (26:45):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Benjamin Addison, that UC student, saw the lights on in
his hunday about one o'clock in the morning in Mount
Auburn and wanted to go. He thought maybe he left
a door at jar. Goes out there and confront someone's
fieling his car. One thing leads to another, and Benjamin
Addison is dead. And the two people involved, one got probation,

(27:09):
the other one got like ten or eleven years in prison.
He'll be out in the next eight or nine years.
To I continue a life of crime. It used to
be if he killed someone in cold blood, you spent
the rest of your life in jail or until you
couldn't function anymore as a human being.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Not anymore, you get out.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And that's not the case in Kenton County, and it's
not the case in Indiana. When I steaked, I speak
to my good friend Steve Washington Machine at Willie's in
Hiddon Valley. He tells me, and I know it's true
that if you go through Indiana and you commit some
violent offense, you're not getting out. And at a violent
offense is breaking into a car. That's a violent offense

(27:48):
because it leads to God knows what's next, including the
killing indirectly of hero Deputy Larry Henderson. He was essentially killed.
He goes to the father of the carjacker was killed
by a police officer. Why carrying a gun? And now

(28:09):
it's proliferating, it's getting worse. So pursuing there too. Sound
like a lawyer there, pursuing there too. I'm gonna have
on after one o'clock today, John Lott, because there's a
lie percolating around the crime rates are down. In fact,
I heard it for four years under Joe Biden. Crime
rate is down, the crime is down, and that immigrants
commit fewer crimes than other type people, all of which,

(28:32):
by the way, are lies. The crime rate is not down,
the crime rates are up. There's more crime proliferation than
ever before. And secondly that immigrants, legal immigrants do commit
fewer crimes than regular Americans. Legal immigrants, but illegal immigrant
crime rates, they're off the charts. If you put them
both together, you might have an argument that immigrants quote,

(28:56):
immigrants commit fewer crimes than typical Americans, but that's not
the case. Illegals commit grossly disproportionate more offenses. And the
numbers coming out of Washington under Joe Biden cannot be
believed anyway, because Joe Biden was the perfect deep state president,
and one of the most disturbing parts about him is
that you couldn't believe these statistics or facts being put

(29:18):
out because he had nothing to do with putting him out.
That the sprawling federal bureaucracy had become under Biden and
Obama so vast and self functioning that the incapacitated president
didn't register the agencies governed by the president, like Department
of Justice, the FBI, etc. Where the executive part of

(29:40):
the United States should be effectively used by the president
was turned off. It was an autopilot when Biden was
in the White House. We now find out that there
were six hundred thousand private sector jobs in twenty twenty
four put out by the US Department of Labor that
did not exist because they wanted to make sure Amala
Harris was elected the president. So it's interesting none of

(30:06):
the instances of all the scandals that was the Biden
presidency was effectively covered up by a small cadre of
aids and family members who operated the presidency and a
willing a media that did not want to objectively cover
Joe Biden because it might help the Republican Party, might
help Donald Trump. I did see an interview over the

(30:26):
weekend with Jake Tapper in which he said Jake Tapper
of CNN that the cover up inside the Biden White
House was much worse than Watergate. Couldn't agree more. They
spoke to White House officials and cabinet secretaries and incredible access,
and he all said that there was no functional president

(30:47):
for the last three years, maybe the entire four years
of Joe Biden's administration, that was run by Hunter Biden,
doctor Joe Biden, and by the White House cadre of
individuals in and around the execut branch in the so
called deep state operated itself and just did whatever they
wanted to do. Nobody was in charge.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Now that somebody's in charge, the system is angry at
somebody in charge that we elected Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Hopefully that all changes. All right, Let's continue with more.
But my trust and faith goes out to law enforcement,
and once again I would anticipate this week or next
the county prosecutor County Pillage will announce this Cincinnati police
officer who shot and killed Ryan Hinton because of Ryan
Hinton's behavior, is free of any criminal charges. I can

(31:36):
only think their law enforcement reaction if she decides to
issue a murder indictment against the police officer who killed
Ryan Hinton, who was stealing cars, possessing guns illegally, and
the ability to kill a cop within a second having
heard the word gun, gun gun. That cop acted completely
legitimately and fairly. Let's continue with more plus later on,

(31:58):
I'm I'll put a call into break and call who
runs the Taste of Cincinnati. I thought it was fabulous
when I was there at least, but of course there
were loud protesters making a fool of themselves to drag
you down to their level. They live miserable, unhappy lives.
They want you to be miserable and unhappy like they are.
But I thought the food was fabulous. We all prepared,
but Brendan call picks up all the pieces, but after

(32:21):
one o'clock today will be the facts about crime in
America and more. Twelve fifty five Homi your reds kicking
it off about six forty tonight, first pitch about seven forty.
Keep hope alive until there is no hope on news
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Speaker 4 (32:43):
Bill cunning in.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
The Great America, of course an expert on gun and
gun possession, legal and otherwise, is of course the Great
John Lotte spent time as the Attorney General's office with
Donald Trump on his first term. He runs, of course,
crimeresearch dot org, which is a fabulous website, had a
post a couple of days ago about crime rates of
illegal migrants is underreported and John Lott welcome again to

(33:06):
the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
And first of all, John, I also would note that it.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Appeared there was a six hundred thousand plus numbers put
on for the employment numbers the last six or seven
months of the Biden administration. Somebody put that up in
order to make the employment rate look better than it was,
because for political purposes it was required. You had this
column up about crime rates of illegal migrants underreported. And
I always hear about the immigrant community commits fewer crimes

(33:34):
than regular American citizens?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
What is the truth?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
You know, first of all, when you mentioned the term
immigrants with that mixes together are numbers for both legal
and illegal immigrants, right, And while legal immigrants commit low rates,
very low rates, illegal immigrants actually commit crimes at high

(33:57):
rates compared to the rest to the US population, And
so you kind of lose those differences when people just
talk about immigrants as a whole. But you know, you
can look at numbers from the Bien administration even and
there are reasons to believe that they're underestimates. But last year,

(34:18):
a couple months before the election, the deputy director for
ICE admitted that of the seven point four million non
detained individuals that had been released into the country, six
hundred and sixty two thousand of them, or about nine percent,
had criminal records. The problem that you find, though, is

(34:41):
that that's pretty much just dealing with people who voluntarily
turn themselves in at the border. Those aren't the ones
that you would think you have to worry the most about.
It doesn't include the two plus million so called godeaways,
people that we saw coming across.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
The border, but we weren't able to catch.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
It doesn't include the millions more that we never even
saw coming across the border. I mean, one of the
problems that we had during the Biden administration is that
over seventy five percent of the border agents who had
previously been there at the border to guard it had
been pulled off of that duty and had been used

(35:21):
by the Biden administration to process illegal aliens coming through.
And the passive equipment that we have like cameras and
whatever to go and monitor the border, the Biden administration
admitted that thirty percent of them had been broken and
not operating, and that they hadn't spent any resources to

(35:42):
try to fix them. So you had huge areas of
the borders. We have no idea how many more millions,
and those are the ones that you should be most
concerned about.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
There.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
So that and of course even the nine percent assumes
that the Biden administration was properly even the ones that
they did did check the criminal backgrounds for head, properly
check those And.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Like so many other issues, you have a great factoid
in your column that says the following. They ignore a
key issue. Criminals often target those similar to themselves. Illegal
immigrants are more likely to commit crimes against other illegal immigrants,
and these crimes often go unreported for fear of deportation.
And so for those who are thinking, well, this is

(36:25):
some racial argument or some other No, No, illegal immigrants
commit crimes against other illegal immigrants because they live in
similar communities. And secondly, they know that the victims aren't
going to call the police for fear of deportation. And
these studies neglect to adjust their analysis for this factor,
particularly when they're relying upon the FBI uniform crime reporting data.

(36:47):
And so, how can you really determine how many crimes
committed by illegal aliens when you have that factoid that
the victims don't report them anyway?

Speaker 4 (36:58):
You know, what I'm saying in some sense is that
it's a guess.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
But how many more crimes have been committed, especially by
Venezuelan gangs or to laying gangs, et cetera, using the
app to come into the country Haitian gangs. Well, when
in fact, if the crimes aren't reported, you can't tabulate
what the crime rate is, correct.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
No, I mean you're gonna underreport what it is. You know.

Speaker 8 (37:24):
One of the things that's come out recently is that.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
You've had.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
That different Venezuelan gangs have turned against each other and
are killing each other, you know, to try to control
things like drug trafficking and human trafficking. You know, it's
something that we've observed for long periods of time with
the gangs fighting against each other to control turf. And

(37:51):
you know, so God only knows how many crimes are there.
But the thing is, even even understanding that these are
under estimates, there's still big numbers.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
That are there that we're dealing with.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
And you know, you the problem is the quality of
the data that we have simply doesn't.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
Properly keep track.

Speaker 8 (38:15):
Of illegals in this country.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
I mean, we have the knixed background check system for
going and buying a gun. Technically only American citizens or
people who are legal residents in the United States are.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Able to go and purchase a gun.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
But yet we have lots of evidence that indicates that
illegals are able to go through the background check and
are not flagged for the fact that they are illegals.
There that they just haven't been you know, properly recorded
as you know, as being illegals, and so you know,

(38:52):
we have no idea, but you look at Arizona as
one place in the country that at least in the past,
has collected this data. The Arizona County Prosecutors Association was
showing that in Maricopa County, which is the largest, most
populous county in the state, you had illegals being convicted

(39:16):
of violent crimes at more than twice their share of
the population. You look at the state prison population, illegals
were forty percent more likely to go and be members
of gangs than the general Arizona population. And they were,

(39:37):
you know, one hundred and forty two percent more likely
to be convicted of violent crimes than the general population.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
And that's kind of a minimal number.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
On top of that or all the other crimes committed
by leoaliens who the victims don't identify the crime is
taking place, they won't identify the person did it.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
So those are minimal numbers. And this is a mas
yea of lawlessness.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
And so uh, you know, I mean, these are staggering
numbers to begin with.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
And the thing is, these illegal aliens tend to commit
the most violent crimes and uh, you know, everything from
murder and uh, firearms offenses to uh child molestation and
UH and other types of rate uh.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
They go on. Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Secondly, and this is a couple of weeks ago, and
I don't think we've discussed it since then. It's been
almost three weeks.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
But do you have some sense as to that the damage,
the harm inflicted upon American citizens by the Biden administration
for their immigration policies that has little or no national
media coverage. Someone should write a book. I know Jake
Tapper is doing a great job. Of course, he's paid

(41:01):
to write a book now. While it was going on,
he didn't do his job as a so called newsman.
Same thing at ABCNBCCBS, Washington posting, just aut line them
all up. We knew the mental acuity, and that's one
of the main reasons, of course Joe Biden lost. But
what is to be gained by having importing it in
this country unattached, unemployable young males who are violent from

(41:25):
third world countries to come into this country eight to
ten million, I don't know, maybe more, and the Wreek
havoc and every citizen's cars being stolen, women being raped,
burglarizing homes. Here in Cincinnati, we've had a rash of
Chileans and Venezuelans breaking into homes with bricks through plate
glass witness, we've had rash of car break ins and

(41:49):
how on top of the run of the mill criminals
that happens all the time, making urban life almost unlivable.
And you talk about Maricopa County, you could talk about Washington,
d C. Talk about in Sinnati, New York City, Chicago
is equally bad and seemingly there's no one blowing the
whistle on what's happened the past four years and tie

(42:10):
it to your research. Have you thought about writing another
book about what is actually caused by twenty one, twenty
twenty one, and twenty twenty five, the wreckage and the
damage to our society caused by these policies.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Is that a book idea you might have?

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Well, I appreciate the suggestion. I probably should. I just
have to put together the different things I've already been
working on to do it, so it may not be
too time consuming.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
But you know, they are real costs.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
I mean, during the Buying administration, we just have the
crime data out through twenty twenty three right now, but
from twenty twenty one through twenty twenty three, if you
look at a measure of total crime from the Bureau
of Justice statistics, we had a fifty five percent increase
in violent crime. That's the largest three year increase in

(43:04):
violent crime that we've had in the that they've ever recorded.
It's more than twice as large as the previous three
year increase.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
That you had had in violent crime.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
You know, it's the same time we had this huge
surge of illegals coming into the country. Yeah, so you know, obviously,
you know, if you just take the six hundred and
sixty two thousand criminals that the Biden administration identified, and

(43:38):
again that's probably an underestimate for many reasons. But even
if you just take their number and look at the crime,
the most serious crime that they committed, we don't know
the number of crimes. We just know what the most
serious one was. You know, you're in the Nationals two.
Justice has put together kind of a cost to victim

(44:00):
of crime from costs lost wages, pain and suffering. You're
coming to an estimate of like one hundred and sixty
three billion dollars in terms of victim costs, and again
that's a huge underestimate of the costs that are there,
But those are you know, it's not just and the

(44:20):
thing it is just not the direct costs to the
victims of crime. Those are important. You have losses to
their families, You.

Speaker 8 (44:28):
Have businesses that close down.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
You have people who lose jobs and places to go
and shop. Higher crime rates and areas mean that you
have depressed housing values. People lose real wealth when crime
goes up in areas, and so you know, the costs
are well beyond even that one hundred and sixty three

(44:51):
billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
And John Lott, you mentioned the fifty five percent increase
through twenty twenty three, and I don't trust the numbers.
We had an administration for four years that lied to
us almost every day, lied about price day cancer. I
guess Hunter Biden and doctor Joe Biden and others were
in charge of the presidency. They came out through the
Department of Labor that they fudged the numbers of the
tune of six hundred thousand more people working in twenty

(45:15):
twenty four than actually we're working. And the only increase
in employment for the last four years under Joe Biden
was a government employee. So when they tell us there
was a fifty five percent increase when they tell us
one hundred and sixty three billion dollar expense. Now, to me,
that's the tip of the iceberg because they give you
the numbers that you want to hear and not the truth.

(45:36):
And the truth we just know there's no go parts
of our cities and counties. You don't want to go
into those parts of town, and we know how people react. Now, lastly,
about two minutes remaining, you had a column up about
armed civilians stopping active shooters more effectively than police. We
have about two minutes remaining. Can you explain how armed civilians,

(45:58):
by your research, stop active shooter is more than police.
It makes sense that someone has a gun there, you
call a nine to win one if you're lucky at
cops there in five minutes or thirty minutes. But what
does the research demonstrate on that.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Well, basically shows one incredibly difficult job police have because
they're in uniform. If you're an active shooting attack is
one where that the FBI collects this data. Active shooting
is a gun fired in public, not part of some
of the type of crime like a robbery or a
game fight over drug turf.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Anything from one.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Person being shot at and missed to a massive public shooting.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
And the thing is, if somebody's.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Going to go and start shooting in public there and
they see a police officer, they have real tactical advantages.
They can wait for the police officer to leave the scene,
or they can move on to another target themselves, or
if they're going to do the attack there, who do
you think they take out first? They go after the
officer because he's the one person that they know that

(46:57):
they can readily identify having a gun. And so we find,
for example, that when police are trying to stop these attacks,
they are killed at seven times the rate that concealed
carry permit holders are killed when they're trying to stop
these attacks. Simply because you know, people need to realize
what an incredibly difficult job police have. And beyond that,

(47:22):
you have to realize relatively few police there are.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
We have six hundred.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
And seventy thousand full time law enforcement in this country.
You know, you maybe have two hundred and thirty thousand
or so on duty at any point in time. You know,
we have three hundred and forty million people. Compare that
to the number of concealed carry permit holders. We have
twenty one point five million permit holders in the United States.

(47:47):
We have twenty nine constitutional carry states, including Ohio and Kentucky.

Speaker 8 (47:53):
In places like that where it's not even necessary.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
To have a permit, you know, we have surveys.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Know that about seven percent of likely voters carry all
most or all the time. About fifteen percent at least carry.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
Some of the time.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
You know, you're just much more likely to have a
permit holder around there to stop in most states than
you are to have a police officer there. And part
it's because the guy knows to avoid somebody in uniform,
you know. I guess one way of phrasiness is we
have air marshals on planes. Who thinks that air marshals are.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
To be in uniform?

Speaker 5 (48:36):
Nobody would know because if you have a terrorist there,
who are they going to take out first. Now I'm
not saying police officers shouldn't be in uniform. I'm just
saying we need to appreciate what an incredibly difficult job
they have, and I don't think most people appreciate it.
So it makes it less likely that they'll be there

(48:57):
when the attack occurs. And when they are there, they
have a very very risky, very dangerous job.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
John, You're kind of like the sergeant Shoe Friday. Just
the facts, man, give me the facts. You have the
facts at Crimeresearch dot Org. And John Lott once again,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. John, Thank
you very much. Thank you, Bill, God bless you.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
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Well, when you're twenty eight years old, shouldn't you act
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I think we have one here every afternoon with.

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You, you know, you and Jack Cromley freak off, You get
your freak on?

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What about you and freak offs? What about what you
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Speaker 7 (50:54):
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I was down at the taste, went to the taste.
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by you on a sidewalk. There were a million people
down there, and you know there was a foul.

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I got there at noon yesterday on Sunday. Okay, And
you know noon on Monday is a little different than
eight pm on Saturday night, the crowd does.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
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Speaker 1 (51:21):
I heard some of the protests are screaming, hollering and shouting,
and I said, get a job. But nonetheless they're so
miserable and unhappy. They want to bring you down to
their level. And I was a protesters ever scream about
about qualified immunity. They want cops to suddenly, uh have
get rid of qualified immunity for police job?

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Job must be yelling at Charles Schumer again.

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Speaker 1 (52:20):
Today is the ninetieth birthday a Merlin Shiverdacker, also known
as the Magic Man.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
So if you know the Magic Man, he goes in
front of a jury and just does a few things.
Suddenly magic magic Man and you're not guilty. Marylyn Shiverdacker
is ninety years old.

Speaker 7 (52:36):
Happy birthday.

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Well, my best buddy's John Kraft, a craft Electric I
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If you know Johnny Kraft, tell him he's the co
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Country Club, not Dale Donovan, mister automobile himself. What happened

(53:15):
Dale Donovan with a hole in one on number two
at MCA Teewah yesterday. So apparently Mark Sheer owns the
front nine, Dale Donovan the back nine. That's how they coexist.
What's his handicap anymore? Is it like a one or two?
Dale Donald at least I don't know. We had to
call him Al Donovan's Auto Care and see if he's there.

Speaker 7 (53:36):
Probably not.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
He's probably golfing and the picture he went and got
a barrel for everybody having free beer, said, you go
over there. So congrats to Dale Donovan hole in one.
I don't know how many that makes it?

Speaker 7 (53:49):
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Speaker 4 (53:51):
And I don't know.

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So I guess the bourbon. I don't know what that is,
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Speaker 7 (54:18):
It tastes better when it's snowing out or raining.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
I don't know. But he's got a gig sipping whiskey.
Good luck to him. NCAA Baseball, Willie. Let's see the
Cincinnati Bearcats are going to play Wake Forest Friday in
the Knoxville Regional at one. Mac Champion Miami. Also in
that Knoxville Regional, they're going to take on Tennessee. How
about the Magic the Balls Friday night at six? The
Magic Man Wright State and will take on overall number

(54:45):
one seed Vanderbilt Friday night at six. The Commodorees are
pretty good. We say all the best to Nick Hagland
had surgery to stabilize to collapse lung and who have
another surgery to address those rib fractures suffered Sunday night
when this Atlanta United guy just crushed him with a
I mean, if if that would have happened in football,

(55:08):
that guy would have been tossed from the game. I
don't know what his name is, but that guy's on
the list is out for the well you don't know yet.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
I mean it's Pat Noonan.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
Said today it's at least six weeks with the with
the ribs, so to see what happens. He's in good
spirits in Atlanta hospital, expected to make a full recovery.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
FCC back in action tomorrow night.

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perse is a record for a four straight year at
twenty point two million dollars. Race winner alex Poalo Cockett's

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three million, three point eight million you got number two
was taken down.

Speaker 7 (55:56):
That's correct.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Marcus Erickson was dropped to thirty first after failed tech.
Two other drivers dropped to the back too. Why they
were cheating, Well they didn't. They failed tech. What does
that mean?

Speaker 7 (56:07):
Well that something was wrong on their car? Is it
not good?

Speaker 4 (56:10):
How about this?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
According to the inquiry, it was fun for a while.
It's time to pack up the hype to hope and
the expectations is starting preparing to sell at the trade deadline?
Are the Reds going to be buyers or sellers in
about a month? I guess it all depends on what
this is Gordon winim a. Is it a trade deadline?
About August first?

Speaker 7 (56:30):
Oh yeah, I think right around area. But I mean
they got.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
A need some hitters. Man, I could still hit.

Speaker 7 (56:37):
But they don't want to.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
They don't want to get rid of the draft picks
and half of them are hurt. You had the list.
We got a new list there, yep. Also we want
to say well he congrats the sine X grad, the
Homer Rocky boyman, uh Connor Busick. He coached the Cornell
Big Red to the NCAA Men's Lacrosse Championship over the

(56:57):
weekend beating Maryland. His brother Griffin is Cornell's director of
Operations from St. X. So at least somebody from Saint
X made it. Somebody's doing something productive from Saint X.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
Is that true outside this building? Yes?

Speaker 1 (57:12):
What did Kremchek say? We have more MRIs than RBIs.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party
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an NFL player, coach, or staff member who overcomes adversity
to a succeed. Of course, he's coming off that risk surgery.

(57:37):
Tim Crumbryan Cot and defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer past winners
of that prestigious award. So Joe Burrow has overcome adversities.

Speaker 7 (57:46):
Yeah, to succeed kind of like you.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
If that's adversity, I'd like, sega, do you ever come
any I think I could overcome two hundred and forty
five million dollars of adversity too. He's done well overcoming
those adversities. I guess how much fifty mil at least
plus plus plus Bengals at defensive end. Well, the OTAs
were held in a drizzle out and then they walked outside.

(58:10):
Willie Today Shamar Stewart still on the sidelines, not participating.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
But the contract amount is set. But the ancillary language
the language? What are they typing it up in Japanese
or something?

Speaker 9 (58:26):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Then the Memorial Tournament starts Thursday at Beautiful Mirfield, well Homa,
Jack Nicholas the Golden Bear, by the way, they're honoring
this year Barbara and Nicholas. How about that beat the
first round Thursday tea times defending champion Scottie Scheffler well
tee off at one thirty, twenty twenty three winner Victor
Hovlin at ten fifteen.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
How about an arm Man family shot in Middletown? Are
you aware of this segment.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I heard about this morning Channel five with Karen Johnson.
Is that your home? No? Nowhere near you?

Speaker 3 (58:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (58:56):
You know where Garden Avenue is? Garden Avenue and Middletown
seven thirty this morning.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
I know where that part of town that's in, but
that's not the drug dealer pointed a gun at a cop,
not good. Well, so you don't know the drug dealer
or where Garden Avenue is.

Speaker 9 (59:12):
No.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Go ahead, Let's see the latest on the injuries from
Red's Daily. Here we go.

Speaker 10 (59:18):
Cees on the.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
IL since April seventeenth, remember him, He's been on the
IEL his entire life. He's a lower back inflammation. Still,
why don't they get some stones pills and give them
to it. He's on a rehab of Simon and Louisville RT.
Louder out in a long time with that forearm strain.
Now he's got an oblique injury and they're saying he's

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going to be out quite a while.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
By the way, I got a text here from Bob
Jones Plumbing. Bob Jones says, I'm playing golf tomorrow with
the Magic Man and Johnny Kraft. They're going to be
mad at you. You said they were ninety and seventy five.
He said, really the ninety five and eighty five. I said,
Bob Jones, you're about to take some money from those guys.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
I aim into that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
Where's that happening? Are you buying it? The confines her?

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
I'm not sure where you know? They all belonging?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
These Holy Tony clubs, Segon, I'm the voice of the
common man and woman.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
Jake the snake freely will you on the I el
Since May tenth with that left calf tenderness and bleeding
is on the rehab assignment at Louisville. He's going to
be reevaluated at the end of the week this week
to see if he can.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
Come up and play.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Got a bleeding calf? I hate when that happens. No,
l V Marte. I'll tell you what if cees On's
good a hold of me, Yeah, I'll give him a
doctor Ernst, that guy put a needle in my back.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
I left his.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Table and I could do the Olga Culbert backflip on
the balance beaed and.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
So that you do that during the breaks.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
I do that. Bob Ernst can get it done for him.
Where is ces, he s.

Speaker 7 (01:00:51):
Aid, Louisville. Right now, it's been to rehab assignment April seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Still hurts. Yeah. Has he ever played?

Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
I don't think so that I know. I've known maybe
a few games. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
I can't keep up with this stuff. Who else is
hert You need doctor Kildare around here? Who's the who's
got a bleeding calf Jake Frayley, how do you have
a bleeding caf? Well, they found blood in it. They
had it was tenderness. Shouldn't be blood in your caf anyway, I.

Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
Would think so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Novelvie Marte on the i EL since May seventh with
that oblique strains. He's getting an MRI today with Ted
McKay to see if he can resume baseball activities.

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
That's going to be a while.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
And then remember forty five million dollars own Jamar Jamer
Candelario on the i elsince April thirtieth with a lumbar
spine strain is possible?

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
What was he doing dancing or something?

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
He's uh, he's resuming baseball activities in Arizona. How do
you get all these injuries? How does this work?

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
All?

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Kram Check, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
More R more MRIs, RB eyes and they need some RBIs.
Would you agree? Where's Candelario? He's making forty.

Speaker 7 (01:02:07):
Five million, he's in Arizona?

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
What's he doing there?

Speaker 7 (01:02:10):
Baseball?

Speaker 11 (01:02:10):
Like Kim this year we got more MRI than Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Doc, that's for sure. What we've done this our entire
life with baseball players. They can't get on the field.
They got bleeding caves, they got obleed problems, they got
sore elbows, they got shoulder problem measures. They had Candelario
like just Cees and Marte playing just pick one.

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Thank god we have Trevino. We didn't have Lee Trevino.
Is he related to Alex Trevino?

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
Do you think I think there might be a relation. Yeah,
then that'd be a problem. I don't get it. Everybody's
heart constantly they got me back at the game again, baby,
what else? Now, you were at the so you were
among thousands of people? Did you go by disguise or
anything thing or what? I had on a golf hat
and sunglasses. But then Brown, what answer? What entourage did

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was with you? My wife, the first lady went.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
And Sean Donovan, chief Deputy of Hamlet County, a good
friend of our Sheriff Charmage McGuffey. Yes, I had the
Sheriff's department had a retinue of officers around me.

Speaker 7 (01:03:19):
As I was walking with Sheriff Jones around.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
He was on top of the PNG pavilion with binoculars
and I had a good time I had about Hamma
Mama mama with some sur crowd and had a cream puff.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
You had a who Obama. I had a Bahama Mama, Bahama,
mama mama. That's what does that like? A hot with
sur crowd and a mustard along with a powdered cream puff?

Speaker 7 (01:03:43):
Did the first did the first lady like? Did she
get an elephant?

Speaker 11 (01:03:46):
What does she like?

Speaker 7 (01:03:47):
Elephant ear?

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
Likes elephanteers? Did she get there? Didn't find any elephants?
She likes powdered sugar elephant ears, and.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
They didn't have any.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Didn't have it, couldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:03:55):
So she's got to go to the State Fur.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
They got him up there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I guarantee io State Fur the wine sells them elephantaires
powdered sugar segment.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
You're you gotta get off the doll fours and next
year come with me to the Little Brown Drugs.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
You know, we had to do the show at the
State Fur. They don't have any of my characters, they said,
the alligator man there, the beer lady. Yeah, that was
unkind to them. Now they're all unemployed, and now they
got somebody who's who's in butter? You know what they
ought to do they have to have you in butter
this year. You know they have that Neil Armstrong. Then
they have Mike the Wine and Butters. Mike the Wine
and Butter.

Speaker 7 (01:04:30):
They had to have you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
They're gonna have like a slab. Yeah, I might do
the Chicken dance this year at October Fest've been invited
and I'm considering. Really, yes, said I'm an icon. I
said an icon?

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
What icon?

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
I don't know. I don't dance very well. I'd be
good for my critics to watch me dance. They'd laugh.
Oh imagine that. You know what if that if you,
if you do the Chicken dance, that will break the Internet.
It'll break it. Segment Give me something. Foolishness has got
to stop right now. Hey, Mike is stopping right now.
Segment Get me Out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
We have Brendan call Cull coming up next from the Taste,
picking up all the paces.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
What went right? What went wrong? Segment Get Me Out
of the Stooge Report, Willie and Hounter of a rainy
day here in the tri State and go Rids. We
leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report.

Speaker 11 (01:05:20):
Always could be with you, Bill, see you later.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
I got to get a hold of him on seven
hundred WLW Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, Red
Bay Talk picks off about five forty tonight. I'm sorry,
six forty tonight. Port Talk begins about six oh five

(01:05:46):
with Lance's first pitch about seven forty in Kansas City,
the Reds won yesterday. Who knows what happens tonight, better
listen to find out. But yours truly for the first time,
and I don't know, twenty twenty five years, found myself
at the Taste of Cincinnati. Got down there about twelve
fifth teen, twelve thirty yesterday, Memorial Day itself, walked around,
good crowds. A little bit of yelling and screaming happening
with some of the protesters. Their life's miserable. They want

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you to be miserable, But I was not miserable. I
was happy, Jon of you, and I now is Brendan
call culll Brendan call the CEO of the Chamber of Commerce,
in charge of Octoberfest, in charge of the tas so
much more, and Brendan call former chief of staff to
Chas Lucan. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
Brendan give the American people. First of all, the day

(01:06:28):
after give us the overview of what happened the last
three or four days with the taste.

Speaker 11 (01:06:34):
It was a beautiful day. You know, my favorite part
is being down there with these restaurant owners. And I
know I saw you walking around.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
With your crew.

Speaker 11 (01:06:45):
It was really nice to just bump into you on
fit on Fifth Street there in the shadow of Procter
and Gambles World headquarters. Yes, you know, my favorite part
of three days is talking to these restaurant owners who
are down there themselves, work in these booths and they're
meeting customers and talking to people. It was awesome and

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people were in such good spirit all weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
People were chill, We had.

Speaker 11 (01:07:09):
No incidents of any sort. We had more than eighty
vendors all weekend long, which is the most that we've
ever had a bunch of new vendors. You know, hundreds
of thousands of people came through all week and long.
And it was dry, which you know, from a Chamber
of Commerce perspective, we like it when it doesn't rain
on these events. And it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
How many restaurant tours, how many people showed up Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
Give me a full report.

Speaker 11 (01:07:38):
You know, I don't we don't really do the exact
estimate of number of people who came through, but it
was certainly consistent with previous years hundreds of thousands of
people we know come and visit the event. We had
more than eighty food vendors, particularly Findly Market, the team
at Finley Market, which is just this gem in our

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city food culture.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
You know, they had more than.

Speaker 11 (01:08:05):
Two dozen different food vendors down there, from ice cream
to oysters. Thank somebody who's this restaurant, sen which is
opening a new restaurant in Finley Market was serving oysters.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
On the half shell.

Speaker 11 (01:08:17):
And you know that's a that's a level up from
Taste to Cincinnati, and I love seeing that. I love
that you can come down there and explore all its
different kind of food that you can get here in
our community.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
Now I'm reading a letter to the editor. You may
have seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Protesters are louder than the music at the taste. Some
people find reason to complain, but I think that's part
of the culture, part of the beauty. I don't engage
with protesters as simply watch and move on. Let them
have their day. But Deborah Busey b usse identified herself
from Liberty Township, the home of Richard K.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Citizens should not be put up with this city council.
Should they do something about this? Or where they all
stay out in the suburbs, I don't know. Give me
your analysis. I saw some louds.

Speaker 11 (01:09:01):
You know, I worked. I worked at city Hall for
just a few days if you remember, about five years,
and I'm fairly certain that even with all of their
infinite powers at eight oh one Plumb Street, the First
Amendment does not enter into their purview. And so, uh yeah,
I mean I I saw some of those folks who

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carry signs. They're usually there every year. They're not inside
the event, but you know, that's that's part of America.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Part of the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
And somebody wanted me to sign a petition to take
away qualified immunity for police officers. I said, I respectfully declined.
You should know more about that issue before you pass
around such a stupid idea.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Also, there was an incident with me.

Speaker 11 (01:09:43):
I have helped if you had a judge there, If
you had a judge there, they could have helped explain
some of that too.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
I did have one with me, and we simply move
on I know, well, yeah, we moved right on exactly.
But another one, I'm down there. It was outside of
the Taste itself.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
It was on Fountain Square where there was some kid
who had broke into some cars and they police think
they identified him, and he left to Taste about one
am on Sunday morning. The Taste I think closed about
eleven and it was identified. And then he had a
gun with him and he got to Fountain Square, turned
around and pointed the gun at the cop. Fortunately the
cop had out of taser and tased him and down

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he went. That was dangerous. You're like a city dweller.
I go in now and then to monitor events. Do
you Censor's more crime? Car break ins, burglaries happening now
than they've been during their reign of you and Charlie
Lucan No.

Speaker 11 (01:10:32):
I Actually I look at these numbers pretty carefully, and look,
the perception matters.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
I mean, you want.

Speaker 11 (01:10:37):
Everybody should feel safe in their city, everybody should feel
safe in their community. So I put a lot of
stock into how people feel and what people say. The
numbers are in the numbers have been coming down, you know,
I think certainly what I would tell you is that
the Cincinnati Police Department, the Hamilton County Sheriff's Department, they

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were out in forced with us this weekend. And you know,
we talk a lot about the food vendors and the
beer volunteers and our team who works on this event.
You can't put on an event like Taste of Cincinnati,
which are whole communities proud of without the good people
of public safety and Hamilton County in Cincinnati. And you
know they had we have them all on scene. Sometimes

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you see them and sometimes you don't. That's the way
we want it. But their job is to keep people
safe and we had we had zero incidents within the
Taste footprints this year. It was tremendously safe weekend in
downtown Cincinnati. And frankly, the most safe experiences are when
there's a lot of people around, and so when we
do events like this, you know, it's a great way

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to get people down and explore the city and do
it in a safe way. So again that that partnership
we have with the good men and women of since
I Police, Hamilton County Sheriffs, Fire Department, all those public
safety folks who helped make sure the city runs well.
They just did a great job this weekend, Brendon Colin.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Notice the booth there. You could sign up to be
a police officer. I'm sure it's a long grigamo row.
Sign up to be a firefighter. My good friend Tim Dickey,
who's a firefighter, who's hanging around it's registering people.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Isn't it a problem in today's world to get men
and women to become cops and firefighters? Difficult?

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
It is difficult.

Speaker 11 (01:12:21):
I mean, they are working very hard to recruit classes.
And I think this is a national this is a
national issue. It's not it's certainly not unique to Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:12:34):
I do know that getting the pay right, getting the
pension right has been an important piece of the puzzle,
and that the City of Cincinnati police and fire recruits.
They're working really hard to fill those classes right now.
But these are the most honorable jobs, you know, in
a community, and so I hope more and more young
people consider that as a career. And when, frankly, when

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they ask us every year to help recruit in an
event like this, we always say yes because it's a
it's a great way to get in touch with people
who might see this as a career option.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
You know, Brendan Call of the Chamber have put me
in charge. Every cop in firefighter starts off at one
hundred thousand dollars a year plus benefits. The way to
attract more talent, which is always in competition, is to
pay more money. I'm led to believe that if you're
a CEO in the jail or a cop, you make
about sixty two thousand dollars by the time you pay taxes.
That means you make forty thousand dollars a year. Start

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off at one hundred to go up from that, and
you get a much many more applicants and better quality
because you want to have a career. The pensions are
pretty nice, but you can't attract great talent to stand
to do what they have to do. Ninety nine percent
of the time. It's just boredom, perpetuating a one percent
of sheer terror they have to go through. Would you

(01:13:49):
agree with me that cops should be paid one hundred
thousand a year to start.

Speaker 11 (01:13:54):
Well, I don't know that's exact right number. What I
do know is that you know these are all negotiated contracts.
And I remember my days of the city, and I
remember some of the work that we did with the
Futures Commission. And what I can tell you if you're
if you're a young person or a youngish person and
you're considering this as a career, being a police officer

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or a firefighter, or a sheriff's deputy or any of
the number of those things can be very lucrative. And
you you work hard, and yes, it's the most you know,
you're you're on an edge. Would you described as that
one percent of the time.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
But these are critically important roles in a.

Speaker 11 (01:14:32):
Community, and you save lives, You impact lives by the
way most of the time in an incredibly positive way.
You know, it's not always that it's an arrest. Sometimes
it's just helping out a neighbor or helping out somebody
who's in a moment where they need you know, well,
we call them when we have a lost kid. Some

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kids get you know, separated from their parents at an event.
You know what that sheer terror feels like. You can't
find a kid for fifteen minutes, that's it. And it's
a synthe a police department. They help us with that.
And so you think about the impact that that officer
has on the lives of the people these are just
hugely important jobs. And so i'd tell anybody if you're
considering that as a career, your pension is great. You know,

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you get to a point where you can retire and
live a great life. And so these are great jobs.
You can sign up really easily to take those tests.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Brend and Cale, I have a question here from a
banks type person. How come it wasn't on the Banks
You've moved it around a little bit. Why'd you move
to Fifth Street?

Speaker 11 (01:15:34):
Well, so I've been at the Chamber ten years and
it has been on Fifth Street, I think at least
twenty and prior to that, if you remember, it was
up on Central Parkway and that was fun. And the
reason that it is not further west on Fifth Street,
I will tell you, is because the streetcar tracks are

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in some of the roads in that past, and we
find a lot of people use the street part to
get in and out of tas of Cincinnati from a
parking perspective, and it helps them get to other parts
of town. So we use that west west or east
side of Fifth Street.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Same thing with Octoberfest.

Speaker 11 (01:16:17):
Octoberfest is now down at that was always on Fifth
Street too, and then we moved it last year what
was on fifth Street, and then it moved it second
and third, and that that poses some logistical challenge when
the Reds are in town or if the Bengals are
in town. And so Octoberfest is now at Sawyer Point
and we will be back at Sawyer Point this year.

(01:16:40):
And that's a phenomenal location. I feel like when I
saw that for the first time, my colleague Chelsea York
envisioned that and that that's where it's meant to be.
It feels like German beer gardens. It feels like what
it's like in Munich. It's a you know, it's an
awesome space.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Lastly, do you and Charlie Lucan thought about seizing power
once again taking over eight to one Plum Street. He
could be the mayor. You could be the chief of staff,
kind of like Halderiman and Erlickman. You could be in charge,
and when he's getting older, you can control the mayorship
like those around Biden controlled the presidency. Have you thought
about maybe you and Luken seizing power once again?

Speaker 6 (01:17:17):
You know, I've never thought of that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
What about Charlie's getting older now, doesn't know what he's
doing a lot of times you could control everything we had.

Speaker 11 (01:17:26):
We had, we've had, we have secret meetings to plot
the future still to this day. And Charlie is a
very good friend. He's doing extraordinarily well. I saw him
out at takes the Cincinnati this weekend too, and so
he was, what was your favorite food down there?

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
I had a Bahama Mama with some sour kraut. Then
I had a vanilla cream puff got it all over me.
I looked like a fool.

Speaker 11 (01:17:53):
I had the Buffalo Wings from Buffalo's Best Food Truck,
which is a food truck out Florence, Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
And as those wings.

Speaker 11 (01:18:04):
Are all right, I'll tell you every year I look
forward to them.

Speaker 6 (01:18:06):
They were so so good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Well, maybe Brendan call this year the People's Judge, and
I may come down to October Fest. I've not been
there in twenty years either, so I may check it out.

Speaker 11 (01:18:15):
Oh, you'd love it down the river. Maybe you want
to do chicken dance.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Oh I'm not much of a dancer. I'd have to
think about it.

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
Cricket, you could lead that. You could lead the chicken dance.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
Well, I know Jim Scott did it one year and
Joe knuts All did it well, make sure it's okay.
Some people are unhappy with me in general, so I
don't know how popular I would be, but if it
has to do so, yes I would.

Speaker 4 (01:18:40):
But check it out first.

Speaker 11 (01:18:43):
We had a great you know, you got to be
down there for story point. It is beautiful in the river.
We're pretty pumped about it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:50):
So it's great and it was great.

Speaker 11 (01:18:52):
To see you guys down here this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
You were with Sean Donovan, chiefs Deputy.

Speaker 11 (01:18:56):
I'm allowed to.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
Saying who you're with.

Speaker 11 (01:18:57):
I didn't know if that's too personal. Yeah, Donovan with
your beautiful bride and don Donovan, who you know talk
about a great Cincinnati and has done so much for
this community.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
He's wonderful. And side Lease is still kicking it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Not in the best of health, but he's had some
had some emergencies recently, but he's still at home and
still doing what he's doing in his nineties.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
Not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
But Brendan call, thank you. Get in touch with me
about the Chicken dance and make sure it's okay with
the powers that be. You know, there are a lot
of liberal Democrats in Cincinnati. The man I like me
headquartering anything, so check that out. First, Oh, you are
a great American, Billy God bless America. Thank you, Brendan call,
thank you very much, thank you. Let's continue with more
the line becomes available five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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seven thousand, News is next, and so much more. At
Trump of the Reds and maybe the leader of the
chicken dance? Can I dance? How popular would that be?
I'm not sure? On news radio seven hundred wulw ah right,
Billy cunning in the Great America. And of course couple
issues to bring up, the going nuts on cuts to Medicaid,

(01:20:03):
cuts to Medicaid, which is a bunch of bs. Let
me give you the facts. You know, facts are stubborn things.
According to the Medicaid those in charge CMS, there's one
point four million illegal aliens on Medicaid.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Is it a cut to them? Absolutely? Should they be
on Medicaid at all? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
So get rid of the one point four million on
Medicaid and on top of that four point seven million duplications.
I watched doctor Oz the other day talk about double
and triple payments to medical clinics, doctors' offices, dental facilities
and more. Get rid of the four point seven million
illegal clinics and other doctor's offices, et cetera. Most of

(01:20:43):
them are course very legitimate, but some of which you're not.
That means those who get Medicaid will have more availability
actually receive the benefits to which they're entitled. Same thing
with Medicare and Medicare. There's millions and millions and millions
on the list that should not be on the list whatsoever.
Cutting them off the list means more money's available to
people like Tony Bender that may need Medicare services, etc.

(01:21:06):
So there are cuts to those who should not be there,
there are not cuts to those who are. Now that
Nuance has lost a course on the media that always
wants to run negative stories about Donald Trump or doctor
Oz or Bobby Kennedy Junior. Always to run the negative story,
a little bit of background those who do not belong
on Medicare or Medicaid. It's a cut to them because

(01:21:27):
they don't belong there in the first place. And hopefully
criminal investigations will take place to find out what the
hell's going on, along with the investigations of finding a
cocaine powder cocaine in the White House itself. According to
Dan Bongino, my good friend and yours. He's going to
launch reopen the investigation about who put the cocaine, who
brought cocaine into the White House. I'll give you a

(01:21:50):
suspect there, Sherlock. How about Hunter Biden, so to speak,
he was the President pro tem of the country. Unbeknownst
to you, him and doctor Joe Biden and Anita Dunn
and others were running the executive branch of government when
Joe Biden was on sabbatico as mind was gone. And so, yes,
there are cuts to individuals in Medicare and Medicaid that

(01:22:10):
do not belong in Medicare and Medicaid. But if you're
getting Medicare and Medicaid, there will not be any cuts
to you whatsoever. Including Social Security, there are millions and
millions of recipients that should not be receiving Social Security.
As a consequence, if you're do not belong on the
roles and you're there, you'll be cut off the rolls.
Is that a positive or a negative? I would hope

(01:22:31):
you think that's a positive. Of course, the media won't
tell you that, but I just did. Let's continue with
more two thirty home year reds and so much more.
News radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati.

Speaker 9 (01:22:43):
I got you started in this business. I can take
youwhere Willy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
Hello, Biant, I'm Skokes, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 9 (01:22:59):
I got you started this business. I can take you
will Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
Jesztrong. What's he doing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
He's staying in one of John Barrett's a high flute apartments,
just living the dream and having like playmate bunnies coming
and going.

Speaker 7 (01:23:14):
That's all he's doing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
A bad kid like Bill Belichick right.

Speaker 10 (01:23:21):
Right now, going right now and trying to turn off
his ring doorbell cam. Because that is what got Bill
Belichick in trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Explain the story because segment didn't understand.

Speaker 10 (01:23:30):
What Because Torre, who has made this his mission from
God to investigate everything involving Bill Belichick's obsessed Jordan Hudson,
he has obtained the full ring doorbell camera footage of
Bill Belichick walking out of an Airbnb rented by Jordan

(01:23:50):
Nutson Jordan Hudson and shows him shirtless, shows him getting
a briefcase assumingly, you know, getting ready to go off to.

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Work early in the morning. Yeah, zipper up down. Here's
the thing.

Speaker 10 (01:24:03):
I think if he were in you know, Albuquerque, New Mexico,
he could probably walk around outside in New England.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
But if he's in New England, somebody might say, hey,
that guy is Bill Belichick. Didn't look like looks.

Speaker 10 (01:24:15):
I guarantee you at his age, he had no idea
that anything called a ring doorbell cam had been invented.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
He possibly would be on tape just nothing but the
head coach of North Carolina.

Speaker 10 (01:24:28):
Would you agree it's not but this stuff? This is
his private life. You know, it's his private life. What
he does with some you know, it does make any
difference on this of course, not.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Fifty years his junior. It's not his private life. He
represents tar Heel football. According to Mark, that's.

Speaker 10 (01:24:47):
The concern North Carolina, and I don't disagree. Is possibly
a fly in the ointment that is unc football.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
I think he puts fly in his ointment on know that.
No I've been super fly, but I might need a lot,
I don't know. It's not a good look for the
football coach not have a heart attack.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Now, would you ever think maybe another prominent maybe football
coach might pull maybe someone at a strip bar getting
a lap dance Urban Meyer.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Is that possible? No, that's not that's not possible that
he recruited you didn't you say that he did. Did
he promise you anything? No, quite the opposite, great guy. Well, well,
well your reaction to this a Pablo Torre. He's obsessed
with this, and again I don't care. You know, I
don't care one way.

Speaker 9 (01:25:33):
I don't care about my jurisdiction.

Speaker 7 (01:25:35):
I don't care about that.

Speaker 10 (01:25:37):
At the time, he was broke up with his girlfriend, right, Yeah,
presumably she was a multi billionaire air of hess oil
and she wasn't good enough. You could raise the question
did that was that relationship affecting his ability to coach
the New England Patriots?

Speaker 4 (01:25:52):
That I don't know. I defense thank you Chance, all right, dad?
Bringing them right now? Chance calling?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
And I think you know he did win what six
Super Bowls? Yes, so maybe it didn't impact him negatively.

Speaker 10 (01:26:07):
Right, well, let's say this right now, he's got to
talk to her and say you gotta come.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
Yeah, you gotta calm down. Go back in the background
a little bit, back to the school of cosmetology.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Yes, we careful what you wish for chess.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Thanks, Chase got all the wound up today.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Yeah, he's so happy about to taste get rid of
that ring doorbell though, Chas say just saying call him.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
Right now, going on that.

Speaker 9 (01:26:31):
I always hear what I say later.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
That's it, that's it. You don't want to be caught.
I don't want to be caught.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Yeah, turn that thing off off. You got Brendan Call
controlling things in city Hall. But he's hoping Charlie becomes
the Mary again. Charlie's getting so old. Brendan Call would
be running the city kind of like the White House
with Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. You know what I'm saying, Yes,
get somebody in. There's a Putts just you know, do
whatever you want. But we got Joe Biden Putts best

(01:26:58):
example of the deep state.

Speaker 10 (01:27:01):
No matter how I mean, and who knows exactly who
it was, I was actually calling the shots.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Do you think of that person?

Speaker 7 (01:27:06):
Whoever?

Speaker 10 (01:27:06):
Was personal persons like ever? At one point, Santa said,
I am running the country right now and nobody really
knows it.

Speaker 6 (01:27:14):
No.

Speaker 10 (01:27:14):
Yes, I think that that would come over you like
I'm actually making the top level decisions of throou.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
In this country, big decisions. Joe Biden is on a
beach somewhere with the hand in his pants. Can't talk
about that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:26):
I'm sorry. Willy the stude reporters of proud service of
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(01:27:47):
you brought that up. No, boy, I'm a federal law
clerk in the Northern District of Ohio. The judge was
Don Jay Young, who was the nephew of Senator Stephen Young,
you might recall who got him appointed. And so I'm
a brand new all Clark says, out of law school.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
And they got these big drawers filled with motions summary
judgment of twelve by six is discovery. And he said,
go in there and pick out two or three motions
and write the opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
I said, I go in there. I wrote you all opinion, yes,
and a chance when I was right. And so I
wrote four or five of them, and he just initial
him and sent him on.

Speaker 10 (01:28:26):
Now, tell the American people who might not know the
intricacies of this, how is that judge?

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
You got to write the Yeah, but you know, if
you're tired, just write something up there. And I thought
if the lawyers knew what was this who was deciding
these cases, they wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:28:43):
Believed as long as you keep your mouth shut about it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
On it's been fifty years a statue run out yet?

Speaker 7 (01:28:49):
Yeah, not yet, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
What does Chance say about this? Chat?

Speaker 7 (01:28:52):
Says wound up?

Speaker 4 (01:28:54):
Yes, yeah, says yes, right, turn off the ring doorbell
cam please, And Jordan, if I had someone like her there,
I'd be have the damn thing all in the.

Speaker 10 (01:29:03):
Sense of my well, he's got another camera going in
the other room, but I'm saying you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
Can't have the one outside. I would do it every year,
saying just how would you know it? Every year? Jazz really?
Andy Benk go ahead Game two of the series, but
will with the Reds and Royals six oh five, and
that guy Lance and sports talking and the RLL carriers
inside pitch at six forty and then Kelsey Chevrolet Extrady

(01:29:29):
Show after the game. Good luck to Cincinnati Bearcatzer in
the Big NCAA Tournament along with the MAC champion the
Miami RedHawks and Wright State. Didn't save your beat? You
seeing baseball and they're not in?

Speaker 7 (01:29:42):
Yeah, they're not in. They got ripped soccer. Good luck
to Nick Haglan.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
He is awakened good spirits after stabilizing a collapse lung.
He's going to have a couple of more procedures on
his rib fractures suffered Sunday after that vicious hit by
the Atlanta United player that sent him away for at
least six weeks on the ribs. I met that guy
last year. I didn't know that happened to him. Yeah,

(01:30:09):
a couple of days ago and they got that guy
like speared him almost Now he's got broken. And then
tomorrow night FC Cincinnati in action as Luke cho Wacasta
comes back to town with FC Dallas. It was so
hard on one of his eyeballs popped out and I'll
pop his out eyeball back in. Now, you know you
got hit hard that happens, Hey, help me get the
eyeball back in. There has ever happened to you playing

(01:30:32):
for like tom he just shoot it off and back
in And there from a friend of mine, Glenn and
said flying the ointment and was an ointment in the fly.
I'm not sure which it was. I'm dyslexic. The ointment
seemed to be used at the the Diddy parties that
I'm just saying I listened to that. Did you hear

(01:30:54):
some of the stuff coming out about that? I can't
talk about it. On Salacious, we have a freaking off
here every after dudes's a freaking that says, that's what
that's in the morning with your Sarah, your co host who.

Speaker 11 (01:31:07):
Brings the baby on kid Chris is dying without me.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
Chance another comedy did a third man in the booth man.

Speaker 6 (01:31:19):
Just like him, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
He likes the baby oil.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
So some of the foreign substances. There were swings, there
was whips, jams and jellies.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
Windfold that you put that guy's car on fire just
for dating his old girlfriend teacher, Yeah, far bombed the
guy's car.

Speaker 7 (01:31:36):
Never happened to me at Cole Ring. What about you
a Saint It that happened at the park?

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
Never any freaking off ches, any freak offs at Saint
X with missus nuttling.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Yes, yes there were.

Speaker 7 (01:31:50):
See I told you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
You're just saying, just saying, when will she be sentenced?
She'll be house arrested with some graduates. That's very old news.
What about Luken's loft with segment and Willie.

Speaker 11 (01:32:07):
That'll be a little special place in the casino. We
won't even we won't need people. People don't even know
exactly where it is, but they will hear about it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
Open a door and you walk into the loft. Bengals
update brought to you by Good Spirits and Party Town.
Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow. Pro Football Writers of America twenty
twenty five George hallis Award winner, presented each year to
the NFL player, coach, or staff member who overcomes the
most adversity to succeed.

Speaker 10 (01:32:35):
Well if the adversary or came playing with the bad defense,
playing with something else.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Bengals defensive end Shamar Stewart present today at the OTAs
but not participating due to his contract situation. Sega, who
does the onus fall in?

Speaker 5 (01:32:50):
This?

Speaker 10 (01:32:51):
Is it the Bengals fault or Shamar Stewart's fault that
he's not practicing right now?

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
The lawyers?

Speaker 10 (01:32:55):
Is they getting unreasonable or are they being unreasonable?

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
You know more about this, and I know what about
the LA What about contract language? What are they writing
it in Chinese or something? I mean, what the heck,
I'm with my petrolity today. He's actually down at the
Bengals and he's going to get the full in a
court and I would deliver it to the American people.

Speaker 7 (01:33:12):
Another I got a.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Text him at bailf and Common Police Court saying I
made big decisions all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
I judge had no idea what was going on. I said, well,
that guy belongs in the White House. That gives people
confidence in the law. Good job. And we also say congrats,
what congrats to Saint X grad what Connor Busic, Yeah,
coach to Cornell Beaton Red to the NCAA nc Double
A Men's Lacrosse Championship beating Maryland. His brother Griffin is

(01:33:40):
Cornell's director of operation. About that, see Santax people doing
big things in the community. Native Indian sport that was
usurped by Notre Dame and that's Saint X and some
taken with hostility. Cross is an Indian.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
You have taken the sport away from these poor Indians
for personal thank you, Chaz, and for personal benefits.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
That's cultural missile right there, Thank you, chas Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:34:04):
Chances on fire today, isn't he He's looped up from there?

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
And we also want to say one of our own,
is he still on Dale Donovan or did he leave
because he owns half of macte wa oh son does
a show me excuse me?

Speaker 7 (01:34:20):
Must be a big shot.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Then, by the way, he had a hole in one
Sunday number two at McAtee wa about that pretty good
for me, Merlin Shiverducker.

Speaker 7 (01:34:30):
He brought a beer barrel in.

Speaker 10 (01:34:32):
There is that the other if you make a hole
by the drinks, he bought.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
A half of barrels, just start drinking. I think Logan
was the financial decision.

Speaker 7 (01:34:41):
All the rest of you.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
He put his mouth up around the nozzle, just opened it.
That's a different story.

Speaker 1 (01:34:46):
But I had a texted Merlin Shiverducker turns eighty four
years old today.

Speaker 7 (01:34:51):
She said he was ninety What an hour ago?

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
He said he was ninety. Sorry, he's eighty oh eighty,
Happy bird day. Magic man first an orifice down my
bottom part. When he refers me with the negative name
a ninety, you gotta get him in. He does magic
tricks come in one day all of a sudden they went.
Did he write all his opinions?

Speaker 10 (01:35:17):
Clerk?

Speaker 4 (01:35:18):
Yeah, I got squire demp season Sanders waiting for my opinion.
I couldn't even spell Squire, Sanders and Dempsey and I'm
missing in the opinions unbelievable and fifty the statutes run
out and he's dead. So what the hell?

Speaker 3 (01:35:29):
What the hell?

Speaker 4 (01:35:30):
What's on the Big Show?

Speaker 9 (01:35:31):
Jurisdiction?

Speaker 4 (01:35:32):
Well, thank you, Chas, I said, it wasn't my jurisdiction.
But he didn't do it, and he signed it. I said,
you got to be kidding me. That's how it works.
That's right, Willie going there all time time? All right,
what's on the Big Show? So Eddie is still out,
just got to do the show from England from now on.

Speaker 10 (01:35:52):
In England, we tad he he was almost a victim
of a pickpocker. He joined us on the show on Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
What what?

Speaker 11 (01:35:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
He said.

Speaker 10 (01:36:00):
There was these two women behind him in full burkas,
and somebody like walking behind me, and somebody on the
other side.

Speaker 4 (01:36:07):
Of the street goes, hey, you know, watch out, watch out.

Speaker 10 (01:36:09):
He looks around and they have all the zippers of
his backpack, undone trying to reach inside and steal stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
Burkas. Woh, anyway, he's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
I got a text here from Denny from Dayton to
the UN meeting, Big un Meeting. He wants to rock
the comment on the French president of getting slapped by
his wife.

Speaker 4 (01:36:27):
I think he likes it. He kind of smiled, didn't
he did? He went to a p Diddy party.

Speaker 10 (01:36:32):
Little he was like a ballet dancer, right, yeah, macrumb
but his wife was twenty Trudeau Trudeau to Trudeau and he's.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Like one hundred years old and she's twenty years older.
I don'd of like Belichick anyway. Any more news on Belichick.
No Eddie is out.

Speaker 10 (01:36:48):
I have Mike Petralia tracks talk to him. But us
he is an expert on all things Bengals camp.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
Right now, he's going to go to the Lions, Is
that right?

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
Detroit Free Press said there's a deal on the table
for Trey to go to I'm a Lion reading.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Gotta be true? Right, yes, no segment your reaction. I
get text him. Joe Peters sends me a picture here
of Harambe when he was born.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
When not Joe, he was born. Here's the website. There's
Harambe when he was born. Oh my god, that's Harambe.
Joe put a bullet in his head. Look, Tony, there's
a Rambe. And Joe said, rest in.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
Peace, you ugly monkey.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
That said Joe, Wow, the darling baby gorilla at the
Gladys Porter Zoo in Bradstrom, Texas, celebrates his first birthday
until he came to Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
Joe cod readed him.

Speaker 7 (01:37:44):
That'll get the zoo on our tail.

Speaker 4 (01:37:45):
Place where the gorilla's going to die? Cincinnati Zoo with
Joe Dieters in charge, thirty odd six from the golf
Look as I, as I said last Friday, it's a picture.
You're a commentary on.

Speaker 10 (01:38:00):
Bill Belichick and Jordan Hudson has finally now overtaken your
discussion on Harambe and Fiona, which was hard to do.
It's hard to beat the show topics you had on
those two. Well you've done it with Jordan Hudson.

Speaker 4 (01:38:11):
But Joe Peters is celebrating the murder of Arambe man.
That's Tucker, that's Tuckhole baby. Oh, Fiona got like a
grown hippo. Now what about the birthday? By the way,
what about Fritz Rich just became became a twenty two
the other day? A silver back gorilla or Fiona?

Speaker 10 (01:38:33):
I got my money on Fiona.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
Who's at Fiona v?

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Silverback Gorilla? Maybe a grown up Haramba Harambe v Fiona.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
I gotta go with Fiona. Those hippos are okay, there's
Tucker now right there. I'm going there.

Speaker 7 (01:38:48):
There's a big tea right there.

Speaker 10 (01:38:50):
Baby grabbed Pilla and drag him into the water and
drown them.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
I've seen videos of these large nile crocodiles eating trying
to eat small hippos, and the moms and dads get
all ye little rock being eaten by a craw craw Now,
I mean you go nuts when you and Kelly, you
won't know what to do. All right, very productive, fifteen
minutes of thank you, We have more tomorrow, and Bill Belichick,

(01:39:15):
get Jazz in here, get Lucan in here. Luken's lofty doing,
say give me, give me on the Stoude Report, Willie
and Otter of a rainy Tuesday here at the tri State,
and Bill Belichick understanding Billy Joel's rare brain disorder. We
leave you with the immortal words of the Stood report say.

Speaker 9 (01:39:33):
I wish you the bank account of Republicans and the
sex life of a Democrat, and.

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
He would know both because he's both. Thank you very much, Chez,
Thank you very much, Chazz, Thank you, Rock Segment, Tony Bender,
thank you anytime. Very productive radio on news radio seven
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