5-5-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with Cincinnati Police Chief Teresa Theetge about Thursday's deadly police shooting, and then the deputy killed Friday by the suspects father. Also mayoral candidate Cory Bowman discusses the importance of tomorrow's election. Finally Willie discusses it all with the American people.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Joining you and I now. By the way, Reds Baseball
kicks off about six ten the night the Reds are
in Atlanta with the Braves. But until then, more important
events are transpiring Thursday and Friday. Joining you and I
now is the Chief of Police of the City of Cincinnati.
Chief Thiji held a news conference last week with Charmaine McGuffey,
who's going to join us later and once again Chief
of Police Fiji. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

(00:30):
And first of all, Chief, can you tell me what
you can about the events that transpire Thursday and Friday
and what impact this has had on law enforcement, not
just in Cincinnati or Hamley County, but throughout the tri State.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sure, thanks for having me, Bill.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
So as I reported out at the press conference on Friday,
this was the first incident involved the stolen vehicle, where
four individuals ran from the car, officers chased him. One
was armed with a firearm and confronted an officer.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
The officer viewed.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
That hit was at the.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Ryan Hinton's possession of the firearm as a threat, discharged
his firearm and unfortunately mister Hinton succumbed to his injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know, Lie circle the globe before before truth and
take his first step. And some are saying in social
media that there's not a clear video shot of actually
Ryan Hinton pointing his nine millimeter with an extended meg
at the police officer, which was an event that took
place probably in less than two seconds. Is it fair

(01:45):
to say that there's not a direct video or a
snapshot of Ryan Hinton actually pointing the weapon at the
police officer? Is that fair to say?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
But you know, I will say, Bill, I think one
of the most valuable tools in law enforcement in my
career his the body worn camera. It has proven facts
for us many many times in law enforcement all across
the country. In this incident, we do not have a

(02:15):
crystal clear still photo of mister Hinton pointing a firearm
at the officer. However, what we do have is mister
Hinton running from a vehicle with a.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Firearm in hand.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
He stumbles, he still has the firearm in hand. He
runs between the two dumpsters, comes out at the officer's
position where the officers positioned, and once mister Hinton was
sustained his injuries, the firearm was still in his possession

(02:50):
and was located.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Near his body. So while we may not have a
crystal clear photo, we.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Have the facts prior to his injuries and the facts
after his injuries that support he was in fact armed.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
With a firearm.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
That along with the officer's interview that said he saw
a firearm in mister Hinton's hand, pointed in his direction
and he feared for his life and that's why he
fired his weapon.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Was there around in the chamber.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
That is all still up to for investigation. Bill, That
is all still being handled by our criminalistics and the
Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office. I'm not going to comment on that.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Was there a second gun in the car that was
stolen the Kia? Was the gun in the possession of
Ryan Hinton one of the two guns?

Speaker 5 (03:41):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
There was a second stolen firearm that whoever had that
one when they ran from the vehicle, they left that
behind inside the stolen Kia.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Social media may say there's some purposeful intent not to
show the moment where the weapon was pointed. As I
understand it, we're dealing for how much time e laughs,
from the time the officer said gun, gun, gun, and
at that point you're trained to pull out your weapon
at that point because gun gun gun means you're going
to be in serious situation. How much time elaps from

(04:13):
the time the officer said gun gun gun until the
fatal shot was fired into the body of Ryan Hinton?
Was it a short period of time?

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Six seconds?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Six seconds?

Speaker 6 (04:27):
That goes quick.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
And you referenced this Chief Thiji that I can recall
many years ago, the police in Cincinnati did not like
having body cams because it was saying, this is too
intrusive in my life. Isn't it extremely valuable to be
able to show the video almost in real time to
demonstrate the actions of the police officers. Isn't this a
critical element that shows the community that well exactly what

(04:51):
happened instead of words on a page. Anyone can look
at the video camp put themselves in the position of
that police officer and say what would you do. Isn't
the video cam I'm a critical part of this entire investigation.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Absolutely, it is, absolutely, it is critical. It shows as
much of the story as we can tell, and then
you have to add to that storyline the witnesses accounts
of what happened, being in this case being the officers.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
And Chief Fiji as far as showing the video cam
to the family In the past, that wasn't always done
subject to a grand jury subpoena until all the information
is out. Why did you and the city administration make
a decision to show the video of the officer's bodycam
to the family, including Rodney Hinton? Why was that decision

(05:42):
made as opposed to waiting.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, so, actually, Bill, this is something that Chief Isaac
started when he was here, and it is a very
difficult conversation to have with somebody's loved one to tell
them the facts of what occurred and show them the video. However,
as difficult as that conversation is, I think it is

(06:07):
extremely valuable so that one the family doesn't start hearing rumors,
that they hear facts from us first, and two that
they do not for the very first time see.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
The footage on the local news.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I would never want to be in that position as
a mother or a wife, and I would never want
to put anybody else in that position either. The least
I can do for them is meet with them, offer
my condolences and tell them what happened.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
You know, Monday back. Monday morning quarterbacking is always one
hundred percent accurate Is there any sense that the father,
Rodney Hinton. Media reports indicate that he left that meeting
the next day quickly in a rage. Can you comment
on whether or not the father expressed outrage at the
killing of a son by the police officer or you

(06:59):
present for them.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I was there when mister Hinton left the room. I
did not see him or view him in any type
of a rage.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
He stepped out.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
It was a difficult conversation to hear. You know, his
son was no longer with him, and so it was
a very difficult conversation for him to hear, and he
chose to leave the room, which is understandable.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Did he express outrage of the police for killing his son.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I'm not going to get into that now, Bill, because
this is still an ongoing investigation, and I'll just leave
it at that.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Wait, was there you had no sense that this meeting
with the family that something ugly was about you. He
didn't express any verbal threats against police when he left
the room.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Again, I'm not going to get into anything that occurred
inside that room other than the fact that we shared
the video with them in the facts of the incident.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
All right, Chief teats you what message would you give
to the community at large, because these are difficult days.
I would assume the funeral of Ryan Hinton's going to
happen in the next few days. I would assume the
funeral of a Deputy Sheriff, Larry Henderson, who gave his
life for all of us, is going to be held.
What message would the Chief of Police of Cincinnati give
to the community.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, actually I have several messages, Bill. One is I
offer my condolences both to the Hinton family as well
as Deputy Henderson's family. No matter what you think of
these incidents, people lost individuals who they loved and that
is extremely unfortunate. The other message that I have is

(08:43):
asking for calm in our city, asking for calm, Let
the emotions that your emotions aside and let this play out,
let the investigations play out. And then thirdly, Bill is actually,
you know, these were young individuals in a stolen car
with at least one stolen firearm, and you know, the

(09:06):
police this is what we've encounter way too often nowadays,
way too often, and so I think it's incumbent upon parents, guardians,
whomever to know what the youth are getting into. Where
are they, what are they doing, who are they with?
And just be more present and try to stop this

(09:28):
type of behavior by our youth.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Lastly, about a minute remaining, Chief Thji. Wearing the uniform today,
it's always difficult. None of us put forth the risk
of life or death by wearing a particular uniform, unless
you're a police officer, unless you're FBI deputy sheriffs. As
someone that's worn the uniform now for about thirty years,
I would assume as we speak this Monday afternoon, you

(09:50):
have the uniform arm you have to since I police
uniform on your body, do you feel targeted? Do you
feel different today than you've felt pre to Friday about
being targeted because of the uniform that you wear.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I personally do not feel targeted.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
Bill.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I am very very proud to put this uniform on
it every day. I love what I do for the
men and women of CPD and for this city.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
However, it is.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
A tough time emotionally for everybody who has some involvement
in this and you know, for our city, this is
tragic incidents that happened back to back. It's difficult to
handle one tragic incident, let alone two.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
But you know, our officers are extremely resilient, extremely professional,
and we will take care of public safety business every
day moving forward.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Chief Thichi, thanks for coming on. Social media is a
blaze with threats against police. I think having your eyes
on a swivel is important today and tomorrow and throughout
the rest of this week, always it should be. But
once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
Chief the GI and I appreciate it very much.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Thanks Bill, Let's continue with more. That's the Chief of
Police of course of Cincinnati holding a news conference, and
the city's position these days are to release the body
cam immediately, and of course, when the father saw the
video cam within twenty four hours of his son's death,
in my view, he went out seeking to murder a
police officer literally ran in Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson. Bill

(11:30):
Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham, and
we'll continue to follow the events and involving the murder,
the purposeful killing of Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson on Friday
at the hands of the father of the perpetrator, who
was shot by Cincinnati police officer at being thirty eight

(11:53):
year old Rodney Hinton, the father, and I would note
that I have a media availability here put out by
the Cochrane Law Firm that the mother and the maternal
grandmother of Ryan Hinton, he's the eighteen year old who's dead,
will address the media alongside their legal team today at
three pm. And over the weekend, the attorneys for the

(12:14):
state of Ryan Hinton, He's the eighteen year old dead,
issued a statement expressing the family's heartfelt condolences to the
family and colleagues of the officer who was killed in
the incident involving Ryan Hinton's father on Friday. And I've
had on before Michael Wright, he's one of the attorneys
with the Cochrane Law Firm. Have a call in to
him to join you and I at some point today

(12:35):
or tomorrow to talk about the representation of the estate
of eighteen year old Ryan Hinton. I'm sure in the
beginning there was a suspicion that the officers had done
something wrong, which is always the go to position of
many liberals simply have blamed the police officer and a
life and death, split second situation, What decisions were made,
what decisions were not made, and after the News. I'm

(12:58):
going to break down the possible charge against the three
that remained, which is Darrell Austin, eighteen years old, and
de Anthony Bullocks who's nineteen, and Sincere Grisby who's eighteen,
that was in court this morning. So we're going to
break that down for you later on about what could happen,
what might happen. But also at this point, I think
the new prosecutor's office in Amley County have a big

(13:19):
decision to make, and a little birdie told me they're
going to seek a death penalty specification against the Rodney Hinton,
who's the thirty eight year old father of Ryan Hinton,
who was in possession of the nine millimeter extended meg
weapon that was in his right hand when he was
killed by a police officer in the city of Cincinnati.

(13:40):
His name not yet been released, the police officer's name,
but one that gets out there in some sense, oh
hell might break loose. I would note that I had
met Larry Henderson a couple times at various Sheriff's events.
I often do events of that character with the police
or with Rob Sanders' office, or Charmage mc guffey or

(14:01):
sy Lease or Sean Donovan's office or what's happening in
Butler County. And I wouldn't note that Larry Henderson had
a distinguished thirty three year career Hamny County Sheriff's Department.
He had an expertise. He was a trainer. He trained
entire divisions of the office that included hundreds of deputy sheriffs.
He related very well to others. He also was an

(14:22):
academy instructor, a dive team member. He was also part
of the SWAT team. Larry Henderson also was on the
FBI Task Force and is on the bomb unit. And
so it's amazing and so said that Larry Henderson went
through thirty three years of service and the most dangerous
part of the Hamley County Sheriff's Department, which is a

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bomb unit and the SWAT unit with the FBI, a
dive team member, and he met his maker at the
hands of a deranged murderer, a cold blood, a killer
named Rodney Hinton, the thirty eight year old father who
left the scene of seeing his son killed when the
video was shown to seek out to murder a police

(15:06):
officer wherever one could be located. Let's continue with more up,
breakdown some of the criminal charges available to all right
after the news Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred ww hi,
Billy Cunningham, the Great American And let's continue now. And
I said, let's break down some of the possible charges
that might be happening and what happened in this case.

(15:29):
Let's go back to the fact that there may be
a video in Northern Kentucky and Edgewood of the key
of being stolen. Is there a video or not? According
to my sources in Northern Kentucky, they're examining it. They
don't know the answer to that question. Why is that relevant?
Because if one person heisted the Kia and picked up
the other three, did the other three know or of

(15:51):
reason to believe that the key had been stolen? Because
grand theft is one thing, rsp Receiving stolen properties another
Many times a thief is in possession of stolen property,
but he's not the one that stole it. Be new
or should have known he was in possession of stolen property.
That's a different issue. Do we know to answer that question?
The answer is no, we don't know. Do we have
a video in Edgewood, Kentucky of four individuals stealing the

(16:15):
Kia one, two or three, we don't know. And then
the clothing Allegedly it happened within a few hours of
the theft, and so the clothing would probably be the same.
So you don't need a clear shot of a face
if you have a certain kind of clothing or marks
on the body of a thief that was wearing blue
jeans and they have a sweater on short sleep, so
you can hook that up. That takes a little bit

(16:36):
of time. So stay with me on this. So let's say,
and for some reason, Kias and Hundi's are are the
items of choice to steal because of their easy self
ignition system, which I think has been corrected. I hope
it's been corrected. But if you're a thief, if you're
a crook and you want to use that car for
shall we say, future ventures, which is running into a pawnshop,

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are using it in some other sort of armed robbery,
they can't identify you as the perpetrator through the car.
But those who do these things understand they can't keep
the car for a long time. You can't like drive
around the car for a week or two anticipating no
one's going to pull you over, because those license plate
and the readers are everywhere right now in which you
can determine that. So is it reasonable assume, therefore, that

(17:21):
those who stole hoisted this Kiya in Edgewood, Kentucky had
the intent on Thursday to commit some other offense and
use that vehicle to commit it, whether it was a robbery,
a burglary, drive by shooting, a drug deal, or running
into a pawnshop and hoisting a bunch of guns out
of that pawn shop. That's a reasonable assumption to make.

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Those in this business do not steal the cars and
then drive them around for weeks or months. No, they're
used to commit other offenses. So can we make a
reasonable assumption that either Ryan Hinton or Jarrell Austin or
de Anthony Bullocks or since here Grigsby they're all eighteen
or nineteen years old, knew each other. Of course, good

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investigation will demonstrate the relationship they had to each other.
Number two, who was the one of the four that
actually stole the car? Stole the Kia from Edgewood, Kentucky?
All three or not? Did all three get picked up
later by the thief or not? And what was the
intent to use that Kia to do what the joy
ride to commit an armor robbery, and that was in

(18:26):
furtherance of a greater felonious conspiracy. You got that issue
sitting out there. In this particular case, the Edgewood, Kentucky
owner had a tracking device on his Kia. He hit
nine to one one. They put it out and it
was located because of a tracker and the parking lot
of an East Price Hill condominium project, as I understand

(18:47):
them from the topography Google Earth, there is one way
up the hill and one way out, so when you
go in there, you may have certain aspects of privacy
because there's no way in, only one way in and
way out. And these four individuals when they parked there
for an hour or two, god knows what they were doing,

(19:08):
probably smoking pot or whatever, had apprehensions that the police
units rolled up there because of the tracker device, so
they were specifically looking for that vehicle and it showed
to be in an East Price Hill parking lot, which,
by the way, is committing a crime across state lines
therefore becomes an FBI becomes a federal matter. You go

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when you go across state lines to commit offenses. Some
were committed one state, some were committed in the other.
There's going to be multiple charges filed. If these four
individuals all were involved in the heightst of the vehicle
in Edgewood, that's different than if only one had done it.
But I regressed just to bit. Let's go into the
parking lot and thinking of what the prosecutor's office and
the police are now thinking. Is the following When the

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four individuals were there and the police cars rolled up,
the police did not have their weapons drawn until the
word gun, gun gun had been had been expressed by
one of the police officers. From start to finish, the
whole event took about six seconds from the time you
hear one CPD officer yell gun, gun gun. When that happens,

(20:12):
that is the message to his fellow officers, pull out
your service weapon because the alleged perpetrator is armed. And
how did they know he had a gun Because as
he got out of the car, that is Ryan Hinton,
you can see in the video that he tripped and fell.
He might have followed because the extended meg of the
nine millimeter hit his hip and so he fell. At

(20:34):
that point, Ryan Hinton had a quick decision to make.
Number one, he was involved in grand theft auto at
a maximum, receiving stolen the property at a minimum. Number two,
he was in possession of a nine millimeter I would
think illegally. You just heard Chief Thiji say that one
of the two weapons found there was illegal and the

(20:58):
other one might have been there still going through at
to determine zero numbers, et cetera. So when the four
exited the car, there were two guns in the car
and only one was taken by one of the so
called defendants that was Ryan Hitton. He had to make
a decision. Number one, am I going to run? In

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today's world, if the four or any of them would
have got out of the car put their hands up,
that would have been the end of it. They'd be
out of prison, they'd be out of jail within the
next six to eight hours. Nothing would have come of it,
zero zilch nod. It would not have occurred because in
today's world, auto theft is not considered to be that
big a deal. But they made the decision not to

(21:41):
do that because they had consciousness of guilt. That means
that likely the three who are still alive knew they
had committed some felonious act the result of which they
wanted to have scowned the jurisdiction. Get the hell out,
And so one might say what Number one, Ryan Hinton
made the decision when he left the car not to surrender,

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But he made the conscious decision to pick up a
deadly weapon with him, that is the nine millimeter with
an extended mag One can reasonably assume that was and
that was his his weapon, his handgun. And so when
he left the car, he made the decision number one
not to surrender. Number two, he made the decision to

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take with him an armed handgun with an extended meg
a projectile in the chamber as police officers in uniform
as saying stop, stop, stop stop. When he fell, one
officer yells not the one who shot Hinton. One officer
yells gun, gun, gun, which is the key word to

(22:44):
law enforcement. Prepare yourself. At that point, all four throughout
their weapons. From that point he Hinton had to make
a third decision. Number one, do I surrender? Answer is no.
Number two? Do I take the nine mill with me
for use? That's two I think two and a half

(23:05):
chamber around the Fiji did not comment on but I
was told there was a amo in the chamber ready
to fire and the safety was off. Then number four
when he fell, he had a decision to make. I
have officers with their guns almost ready to be drawn. However,
when the word gun, gun, gun came out, he then

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armed himself, picking up the weapon from the pavement. One
didn't surrender. Two exits the vehicle. Three nine milimeter extended
meg with him. Four drops the nine millimeter on the pavement,
five picks it up and then continuing to run. And
at that point the fatal sixth part of this thing occurs,

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which is according to the police officer, in between the
dumpsters as he exit, he perceived, and this is an
important word, he perceived that Ryan Hinton pointed that weapon
at him that the officer knew was a nine millimeter
with an extended mag That officer was within a split
second of being killed, along with many others, much as

(24:11):
Sonny Kim was killed in Madisonville. Shall I say unexpectedly
went there on a fake nine to one one call.
The officer made a split second decision. Now, when you
watch the video tape, which I've watched repeatedly, maybe fifteen
or twenty times, at no point to the public. Has
the video tape shown the right hand of Ryan Hinton

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with the weapon contained their end pointed at the officer.
FIJI uses the word perceived. It's critical and law enforcement.
They don't have to prove to an extent that the
weapon was actually pointed at the Cincinnati cop. What a
reasonable police officer in those circumstances anticipate a threat to

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himself or others of deadly force being used against him
and his fellow officers. How many split seconds would it
have taken for the right hand of Ryan Hinton to
change the position of his nine millimeter from one direction
to the other. It would have taken one tenth of
one second to be in position to kill several Cincinnati

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police officers. Why does an eighteen year old have a
nine millimeter? I would suggest to you it'll be discovered
later illegally with an extended magazine and one extra magazine.
Why what's the purpose for that? And when the shot
was fired? You might remember I had on last week
Ken Kober who said the round was fired into the
chest of Ryan Hinton about ten feet away from the officer,

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and the second shot was fired to hit an arm
and he quickly. He died at the scene. So who
was in charge of this event, whose behavior brought the
officers to him, and whose behavior continued the event that
could have resulted in his stead. That was Ryan Hinton.
And do I grieve his loss? The Vice mayor of

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our city, Jean Michelle Kearney, is grieving the loss of
this eighteen year old teenager. Yes, but whose behavior calls
it to occur the eighteen year old teenager? It's his behavior.
Now as far as the other charges against the three
that remains, Durell, Austin and de Anthony Bullocks and Sincere Grigsby,
they're going to try to flip one or two of

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them to say what happened in the car, Who said
what to who, who was in possession of the guns?
What was the intent of stealing the Kia in the
first place. It was not going to be used to
drive to Michigan or to Pensacola. It was going to
be used to commit other crimes, which is a regular event.
And if you have one of the living co defenders
to testify, then that's a different circumstance, one might argue.

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And I brought this up with Fiji Chief Isaac who
went to Detroit had a policy of showing the bodycam
as soon as possible to the family. When all these
issues arose many years ago. I can recall Dan Hills
and others not locking the idea that the police are
going to have body cams. Well, guess what he now
flips completely on the issue because it shows the cops

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ninety nine percent of the time want the bodycam to
demonstrate what happened. Imagine if we did not have the
body cam right here, what would be happening with Rodney Hinton,
the family member and other they're going to help nose
comments three o'clock. Nobody would have believed what the officers
had to say. But a reasonable cop in a reasonable
position perceived a danger to himself and others and shot

(27:39):
Ryan Hinton. It is not necessary that they prove the
gun was directly pointed at the police officers. Did the
officer perceive a threat to himself and to his fellow
officers and did he proceed? The answer is yes, he
did proceed and his behavior is quite reasonable. Should the
videotape have been shown twenty four hours later, according to

(28:02):
the Chief Fiji, began by Chief Isaac would get it
out as soon as possible. There is a theory that
it's better to wait till all the investigative elements come together.
Is there a video tape in Edgewood, Kentucky showing who
who stole the Kia? Are there videotapes on the condo
project in ease price sale that demonstrates more the whole picture.

(28:24):
Have you downloaded all the video cams of the other
officers involved? Do you have any witness statements that might
be available? Do you have the entry point of the bullet?
Did the bullet enter directly? Was at an angle? Was
it directly head to head? According to ken Kober, he
was shot in the chest. Now the chest you know,
was on the left side of the right side. Did
he turn his body toward the officer or was he
at an angle to the officer see the gun? By

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the way, the gun was located at the scene and
the coroner's office and others will demonstrate that the decedent,
Ryan Hinton, I would imagine his fingerprints are all over
that gun. They can show it's his gun at least
in possession. And some some have said that the city
should wait until all the investigative issues come together, as
one until they decide what to do. But within twenty

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four hours, the video is shown to the father, Rodney Hinton,
and Chief Thiji was there. She did not seem to
indicate and my questioning of her about forty five minutes
ago that when Rodney Hinton left the father, he did
not express too many feelings that he was about to
kill a police officer, and she did not relate that

(29:31):
as being being the situation. And so illegally possess a
handgun in Ohio, you got to be twenty one years
old to do that. And obviously these individuals committed various felonies,
and I would strongly suggest to you that they had
other designs for this kid to be used. Later, we'll
see what happens. Coming up in about fifteen minutes, we

(29:55):
have one of the candidates for mayor of our city
going to be with you and I to talk about
what's happening. What's going on. That's Corey Bowman. I have
calls out to Michael Wright and others. Later this week,
the Sheriff's going to join you and me, Charmaine McGuffey,
to talk about it. I would anticipate it's going to
be a rough week for law enforcement, and they were
innocent parties of this. And Ryan Hinton is not an

(30:17):
his innocent party, He's a fully guilty party who I
was told has an extensive juvenile criminal record that he
never was dealt with adequately. He turns eighteen, is no
adult record. But the fact he possessed a handgun illegally
and was certainly involved in the theft of the Kia,
and this indicates to me that he was in some
sort of felonious misbehavior. An eighteen year old should now

(30:39):
be graduating from high school, not dead because of his
felonious criminal misbehaviors. Well, let's continue with more and if
Lyne becomes available. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand.
Bill Cunningham, The Great American Live, it's term of the
Reds playing tonight in Atlanta about seven ten. Ever time
of about six ten, it's termed the Reds. News Radio
six WLW by Billy Cunningham, The Great America. Welcome this

(31:11):
Monday afternoon in the tri State. There are fast moving
developments in the murder of my Hamlety County Deputy Larry Henderson,
and also what's happening to the father of Rodney Hinton.
Also this morning, one of the four individuals involved in
the auto theft sincere Grisby eighteen years old, was arraigned
in municipal court. At this point, all of them are

(31:32):
locked up pending further action, and tomorrow there's going to
be another legal proceeding with Rodney Hinton, who is the
father of the eighteen year old, the attempted murderer of
a police officer who's dead, and what's going to happen
with his bond, etc. This will be a big moment
for the New Hamlet County prosecutor whether or not there's
going to be a speck which means death penalty specifications,

(31:54):
because one of the statutes in Ohio provided that you
intentionally murder a police officer, that you're quickly eligible for
the death penalty. I think many in law enforcement would
like to see that used, but unfortunately Governor Mike DeWine
has not signed any death warrants for anyone at this point.
He's more or less verbally in favor of the death penalty,

(32:16):
but in practice opposes it, I think on religious grounds
and whatever that turns out to be, that's down the road.
But Joanan, you and I now is Corey Bowman. He's
running for mayor of the City of Cincinnati. In fact,
the primary is tomorrow. We've invited on the other two candidates,
waiting to hear back from them. But Corey Bowman, welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,

(32:36):
give me your reaction to the murder of Deputy Sheriff
Larry Henderson and what the city should do. At this point,
I would point out that the Vice Mayor, Lemon Kearney
has issued a statement saying, quote, this is from Jan
Michelle Kearney, who's the vice mayor. Our community is grieving
for the eighteen year old young man whom we lost
too soon and the Hamley County sheriff who was killed

(32:59):
today in the line of So first of all, as
the purported city leader in the future, what is your
reaction to the events which took place on Thursday and Friday.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
Well, Bill, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
You know, it's a definitely a point in our city
to where many people are affected. And I issued a
statement today basically stating that my first response to all
this last week was to pray. I called a prayer
meeting at our church in the West End and we
just prayed for the city, pray for all those involved.
But the first thing that we want to do is

(33:33):
extend our condolences to the friends, the family members, and
the colleagues of Deputy Larry Henderson. That was a tragic
thing that happened. He lost his life on Friday.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
It should not have happened.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
And we have to focus on what is happening with
the sheriffs and all those involved that they're encountering something
that's extremely difficult. I've talked with many people, even in
the Cincinty Police Department that are they've encountered very long
nights the last few days. We have to show unrelenting
support for our local police officers and for our deputy

(34:07):
and our county sheriffs and to be able to see
what's going on. If you truly have a heart for
the city, if you truly have a heart for our communities,
and your heart breaks for what's happened over the last
three days.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
This can't be a political point. I know we have an.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Election tomorrow, but this can't be a political game. This
has to be something to where we realize this life
should never have been taken.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
This should not have happened. And I think that to.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Turn this around to why we are running in this race,
you have to have a culture set in place to
where the police are honored and supported.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
In our city.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
And if you do not have that at the forefront
of your administration, then they are always going to be
seen as the bad guys. And you're going to encounter
many situations like this to where the communities that are
involved in the urban area are always going to see
the police officers as the bad guys.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
There's going to be so much division.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
In our city and that comes from the top, that
comes from the administration setting that culture, setting that tone
to where we set out three to one one and
ARC officers where.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
CPD officers should be going.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
And you're basically casting this image that the CPD officers
and the police force in our city are the bad guys,
and that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
There is a predicate of that. That's why the Citizens
Review Authority exists. Citizens Complaining authority of the CCA. It's
almost as if when these events transpire, some quickly jumped
to the idea of what did the cop do wrong
that caused in this case, the eighteen year old Ryan
Hinton to be killed, and the circumstances in which the

(35:50):
eighteen year old teenager was killed was completely controlled by
the teenager himself. He was the one who made the
decisions along the way to have possession of a firearm
to put into it an extended magazine. He was the
one that grabbed the gun and left the vehicle with
the gun with the purpose of using the gun. I
would say, otherwise, why pick it up? And then when

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he took a few steps and fell to the pavement,
the gun itself fell with him. He made the decision
to stand up and pick up the gun again, which
is on bodycam. He then made the decision to run
in between two dumpsters, in a sense, secrete himself, and
then ran out the other side toward the woods. And
at that point the Cincinnati Police officers said in a

(36:32):
statement that he perceived the gun was being pointed at him.
When I look at the body cam, it's impossible to
say whether the gun was pointed at him or not.
But all this took place over about a two second period,
and it would have taken a split second for Ryan Hinton,
the eighteen year old, to take the gun in his
right hand, by the way, with a round in the chamber,

(36:53):
in order to within a split second directed toward the
police officer and kill him and maybe other police officers.
There's a sense though, that whenever these events take place,
the cop was wrong and the so called decedent was correct.
But who controlled what happened? Was it the police officer
or was it Ryan Hinton? He controlled everything that what happened,

(37:15):
and he made the decision to steal the car. He
made the decision to drive it into a parking lot
that was somewhat secreted away from the main dragon in
East Price Hill. He made the decision when the cops
came up with the sirens blaring, to jump out of
the car. He made the decision to grab the gun
with him. He made the decision when he slipped and
fell in the pavement, to pick up the gun again.
Then he made the decision again to run from the scene.

(37:38):
And you might recall Corey Bowman that two seconds before
the shots were fired, you hear gun, gun, gun, and
police are trained that when you hear gun, gun, gun,
you pull out your weapon immediately because you're in a
life and death struggle. Do you have empathy for the
position the police officer was put in by the behavior
of Ryan Hinton.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Well know you every detail that you have just stated,
and all those details had to be thought about, and
they had to be considered within a matter of seconds.
And I think that we need to realize that our
sins and police officers are running into situations where everybody
else is running out. We are expecting them to protect

(38:20):
and serve. We are expecting them to make very quick decisions,
and they have the training, they have the ability to
do it.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
But whenever we see it.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
From a hindsight situation, all I'm seeing is people that
are not respecting the position that these police officers are in,
and they, like I said, they are running in when
everybody is running out.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
These officers are expected to put their.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Lives on the line in these situations and they have
to make these decisions in a split second. And I
don't think anybody really has the ability to answer for
these police officers except for those that are in this situation,
and so we.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Have to be able to respect them.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
We have to be able to the situation for what
it is. And if we take this situation and if
we do anything other than respect the position that these
police officers are in and to thank them for the
service that they're doing. You're going to see morale at
an all time low in the police department. You're going
to see recruiting down, and it's not going to go
well for the city because these guys and ladies are

(39:22):
vital for our city, and we have to set the
tone from the administration that we support our police officers
and the sacrifice they make every day.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I have a social media posting which is Germaine, which
is consistent with some others I have read that says
to following, Cincinnati is time to riot. A Cincinnati police
officer shot a boy in his back. He ran right
past the officer and he shot him. If the police,
it's time we stand together and take these mfs down.

(39:55):
F Cincinnati police, it's time for an officer not to
make it home f his family. That's a sentiment express
not by many, but by some. Your reaction, well.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
This is what you have to realize is that you know,
my coffee shop, we have many police officers that come in.
These are police officers that are connected with the community,
that have hearts for the community and for the people
that they serve, and in situations like this, emotions are high.
You can't That's why I was so careful about, you know,
putting out a statement, because everybody wants to put out
a statement or reaction based on emotions, and any of

(40:30):
these you know, situations have the tendency of dividing even
more and creating one side and the other. It's where
you could see events like that in the downtown area.
You know, we pray against that, we speak peace over
this situation. I would encourage anybody on any side that
they think they're on to really consider the fact that
we need to operate in peace. We need to be

(40:52):
able to pray for our police officers, We need to
be able to pray for our community and the people
that feel like maybe they're forgotten. But it doesn't change
the fact that the incident that happened. We've got to
consider the perspective of these brave police officers that are
putting their life in harm's way, not for themselves, but
for the communities that they served.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
You know, many years ago I had on Dan Hills
and other coppers that decried the idea of having a
body cam. As the events have rolled by the last
few years, it is a wonderful thing that these police
officers had body camps that were operational, and even though
at the critical moment and that split second between gungun gun,

(41:33):
shouting and then shooting, which is less than two seconds,
you can see the horrible circumstances in which the officer
found himself. His eyes were focused on the nine millimeter.
Police officers are trained when you hear gun, gun, gun,
pull out your service weapon immediately. Secondly, look at the
hands of the perpetrator. Don't look at his feet, don't
look at his head, don't look at his shoulder, look

(41:53):
at the hands. And when he looked at the hands
of this of this eighteen year old teenager, he saw
in his right hand had a nine millimeter with an
extended magazine. Now, I don't know if you're familiar with weapons,
but there's no reason for an eighteen year old boy
to have a nine millimeter with an extended mag and
one in his pocket. He had multiple abilities to fire

(42:14):
twenty four shots in about five seconds at four to
five Cincinnati police officers. The bodycam is turned out to
be wonderful. You can only imagine Corey Bowman if in
this particular case there was no body cam, and you
had officers saying that this is what happened. All of
a sudden, there'd be news conferences on the steps of the

(42:34):
city Hall. To be careful what you say. The bodycam
demonstrates and this has turned out to be wonderful for
the police. If you, if you're elected mayor of the
City of Cincinnati, would you insist upon further use of
body cams, which almost ninety nine percent of the time
exonerates the police.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Now you have to you have to be able to
see it from the perspective of the police officers. And
these bodycams show what these police officers go through on
a daily basis, you know. And the reality of it
is that we've got communities that feel like there's no
hope for our city, that they feel like there's no future.
So this kid, and like you said, should never be

(43:12):
in a situation like that. But I'm in the West
End and you've got entire communities that feel like there's
no hope, there's no future. And I'm telling you this
right now that this has to do with the culture
that is set from the top of the administration. When
you're able to support the police officers to be able
to have a direct involvement in the communities they serve,
to be able to show that these officers are there

(43:33):
to protect and serve. You've got to be able to
invest in entry level positions for jobs and giving these
kids a hope and a future.

Speaker 6 (43:40):
That is not what's happening right now. We have housing
developments and.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Policies that are trapping these kids. They're trapping the entire
generation in poverty and no hope.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
And when you put somebody.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
In a position to where they feel like they have
no hope, no future, they have no choice but to
be able to go in that direction. Now that's not
me saying that what the kid did was right. We
have to be able to support our police officers, but
I blame the top to be able to say that
they are setting a tone in this administration that.

Speaker 6 (44:11):
Cops are bad.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
But also they're also saying a tone that there's no hope,
there's no future for these communities that are being lost
and forgotten about. And this is the result of it.
When you have no discipline, when you have no strength
on the top of it, this is what happens is
that the city runs wild with this, and we have
to be able to have strong leadership that are going
to be able to back to the police officers, but

(44:34):
be able to consider every resident of the communities of
our great city.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
And look what's happening in the banks Friday night, Saturday night.
I had on Ken Kober last week who talked about
one hundreds of kids on a summer's night smoking pot
looking for their next victim. Lastly, on the issue of
releasing the video, we've had a policy recently not to
release the video because it's part of the grand jury investigation.

(45:01):
By that, I mean there was four or five officers involved.
Each of them had body cams. You might have had
a camera on the condo project there in the East
Price Hill. There's pieces of evidence that come together in
this particular case. The city now is a policy of
quickly releasing the video cam, which may tell an incomplete
story about what occurred in this case. When the video

(45:24):
was shown to the eighteen year old boy's father, Rodney Hinton,
according to media accounts, left the meeting early having watched
his son being shot to death. I would contend by
the son's own behavior, which is sad but nonetheless and
that he went out hunting a police officer to kill,
and so there was about an hour and a half
between the time he left the coroner's office when he

(45:46):
saw his son on video being killed, until he was
hunting to kill a police officer, and unfortunately a deputy
sheriff Larry Henderson was the first one he could run
into with his car and murder. There was no skid mark.
Is a good public policy to release a part of
an investigation to show a grieving family the death of

(46:07):
their loved one when there's so many other pieces to
put together. This is relatively new. We didn't release videos
until it was down the road a bit till maybe
the passion is to the moment, what subside, what's your
feeling about that.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
I think that what you said about impartial evidence or
incomplete stories that basically drive the emotions of people is
right on. I think that what's happening on social media
right now, what you're seeing in our culture is that
we want results now, we want reactions now. Everybody is
basically reacting without thinking, and we have to diffuse these

(46:41):
situations to be able to say, hey, we pray peace,
we speak peace over these situations. Let's wait until all
the evidence comes about let's not react. That's actually why
I was so careful to release a statement, not because
there are certain statements that are right or wrong, but
because every one of these comment sections on all these
news social media outlets are war zones. You've got people

(47:03):
on one side and then people on the other, and
it's not good for our city. You have to be
able to speak reason. You have to be able to
speak peacefully in these situations. You have to bring people
together to say, wait for the evidence to come forward,
wait for the actual facts to come forward, don't react,
don't respond. You have to respond with all the evidence.

(47:24):
And I think that that's something that's very important in
our city, to be able to say, hey, we have
to speak peace. We have to speak reason and consider
every side.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
But that's the thing about.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
The rule of law is that you have to be
able to look at each side and tell a complete
story and not just react because of one piece of
information or one piece of evidence.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Is there all right, Corey Bowman, the man who would
be mayor, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
And later on we're more information as to the funeral
for a Deputy sheriff Larry Henderson down the road. But
Corey Bowman, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
Thank you, thank you so much. I can't emphasize enough.
We have to get out to vote.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
May sixth come, everybody, get out to vote for your leadership.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
God bless you. Corey Bowman, thank you very much. Let's
continue with more and later on after the break. I
have some comments to make about other charges that might
be filed against these three individuals who were involved in
the auto theft that resulted ultimately in the killing the
murder of Larry Henderson. Bill Cunningham on seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 8 (48:27):
Journalism is on the move as they turned for home,
and sovereignty is coming with him on the outside.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
The two of them go right by with um.

Speaker 8 (48:36):
Lunder on the journalism and sovereignty knows to those down
to the last sixteenth of a mile. Sovereignty has taken
the lead. Journalism is second, fourth, the good side by
ageless third, but it will.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Be sovereignty to rule the the tucky.

Speaker 8 (48:54):
Ury journalism and by as over next final Devin was
for the final time two one seconds.

Speaker 9 (49:06):
Oh hello, quiet and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Journalism goes down again. The sovereignty. That sounds like Trump. Well,
well let's see, uh you know, and thank good to you.
How about Mike Tarico Saturday getting an allergy food poisoning
ors off something.

Speaker 10 (49:32):
And the other guy had to fill in? The Derby
delivered seventeen point seven million viewers Saturday, marking the largest
Derby audience since nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Why is that? Do you think the weather people want
to stay inside? People are entering?

Speaker 10 (49:46):
I get well, I guess so raining all over the
place and sovereign and Derby parties, journalism. The one guy
that was looking good at the Derby two Bob Bamford. No,
Chris Collinsworth and Jeff Ruby, we're looking fashion plates kind
of they're rich in the famous correct we're stuck here
just broadcast.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
You didn't go. I was invited to be to give
him some award to the third race, and I said, no,
it's too far away and it's too money. Uh yeah,
that's gart. I guarantee you one thing.

Speaker 10 (50:16):
There was a lot of expensive shoes messed up on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Thank you. How did collins Worth behave? He looked good.

Speaker 10 (50:24):
He had a little hat on and uh kind of
like judge Mail and Caddy shack, and he had all
He was very colorful in his fashions.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Clearly, clearly, you have completely made me.

Speaker 10 (50:36):
I don't know how to thank you.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Enough, that's for sure. I hate to do they ever
hear from him. Uh oh see, see this is always dangerous. Well,
let's see what happens. Say, give me some sports. He's
not going to pick up what I tell you. He's
afraid of my probing question. He's got nothing. He's got nothing,

(51:00):
He's a nobody. Whatever happened to him? I heard you
talking about him and David Versa a few days ago,
told you he'd have the nineteen eighty one draft. I
mean they took David Versa out of Kansas, the wide receiver.
That was a mistake.

Speaker 10 (51:13):
Bengal fans went crazy, think was going to be Collinsworth.
Then they then they had the agonizing weight wait. I
think it was like the first or second pick in
the in the round. They had to wait all the
way through, and it's like, well, collins Worth's gonna go here,
He's going to go to here, He's gonna go here.
Round two. Chris Collinsworth, wide receiver, University of Florida. And

(51:34):
when and when Verser left and he became a cop
correct for twelve years, Cincinnati cop.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
What's David Versa doing now? If anything I don't know
might still be able to play? Let's find out? Will
he the student reporters of Proud Service, every local tame
star heating and air conditioning dealers tame star quality you
can feel in Cincinnati called Sheldon Braun at Braun Heating
at five, one, three, three, eight, five, seventy seven sixty five.

(52:01):
But those Reds, Willie lose a yesterday four to one
to the Nats. Dropped two or three in the series,
lost four to seven on the home stand. Here we
go again a time I feel high and at times
I feel low.

Speaker 10 (52:15):
Eighteen and seventeen, still second in the Central but two
back of the Cubs, just one up on the brew crew. Now,
and for a second, what do you think about that
seven game road trip tonight? The first of four in
the at L. Woll Brady Singer four and one against
a J. Smith Spawner at one and two. Coverage begin

(52:37):
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Inside Pitch, Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning Show.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
After the game, the whole Town's Battie about Cincinnati. What
a team? What a team? What a team?

Speaker 10 (52:50):
Yes, they are Lanta's fourth in the East at fifteen
and eighteen. They got to win last night to avoid
a sweep by the Dodgers Reds.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
They need to do well and they need to get
four and three or three and four? Do you agree, correct,
rhet Lauder?

Speaker 10 (53:03):
Remember him set to begin to rehab assignment tomorrow with
the ACL Reds in Arizona. Then he's gonna head to Dayton.
Of course, as you know, he's been on the il
since the start of the season with a right forearm strain.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Let's go over the body of the Reds. Wit when
that happens? Well, part of the well Stevenson's back. He
homeward yesterday. Cs still got that back inflammation. Uh see,
who else? What about Hayes? Hayes has got the hamstring,
got a handy? Who else is on the I don't
know all of it? All of them? College baseball?

Speaker 10 (53:39):
Those UC Bearcats sweeping twenty fifth rated Kansas on the
road over the weekend, Xavier beat Seaton Hall. The Musketeers
still have a shot at the Big East Baseball title.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Well, what about the what about the US Open qualifier? Macatooa.
My friend Steve Tino. Tino wants to know about Will
Grimmer Well.

Speaker 10 (53:57):
The US Open qualifier right now at back at Tewak
Country Club, owned by Mark Sheer and Dale Donovan, J D.
Collins out of Lexington, JD. Daniel Wedderick at a Cincinnati
with a sixty eight. They're in the clubhouse at two
under pretty good. Leo Wessel out of Indianapolis. Willie is
two under through twelve, not bad. Leo started out with

(54:20):
a birdie on one.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Number one is a relatively short par four. Got to
carry the bar about two hundred and twenty yards to
get over the valley. But then it's an easy hole.
Tell me about number two to par three, par three,
one hundred and ninety yards, mister Wessel hole in one, birdie,
hole in one, probably hit about a five arm, maybe
a four arm into the cup on number two. Number
three is a tough unforgiving par four down the hill,

(54:45):
up the hill, hit it right, hit it left. What
happened on number three? Double bogie six?

Speaker 6 (54:50):
What?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yeah? Will Grimmer is two under through twelve? Yea, what
do you do?

Speaker 10 (54:56):
Let's see also Flying Pig marathon over forty two thousand
participants over the weekend and all the Flying Pig events,
so congrats to them. The men's winner was Sean Ryan.
He went to Saint Henry and Independence now lives in Tampa.
Tory Parkinson hails from Utah. The women's full marathon champ.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
How about this Scott, a texam a cop David Versa
was forced to retire as a cop due to a
physical disability after about fourteen years. How about that one.
I wish him well.

Speaker 10 (55:30):
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Speaker 1 (55:52):
And Trump will still be Roger Goodell. They are resident
the United States at the owner of the and the
owner of the Commanders is there. Mayor Bowser Maurio's there
from Washington, DC. And now the racing. Let's talk about
race over the weekend. Let's get it done.

Speaker 10 (56:09):
Congrats to Loveland High School Junior. I have Agorus Papa
sommas easier. It must be a Greek Finnish second in
the Indie NXT race in the Grand Prix of Alabama.
Now that's the minor league of the IndyCar Series. But

(56:30):
Loveland Junior got it done second overall.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Yesterday got another text Burser had bad knees. I can
imagine playing football? Correct? You got bad knees.

Speaker 10 (56:40):
Also, Willie. Let's see the Formula one Miami Grand Prix
was held yesterday. How that go quarterback Joe Burrow of
the Bengal What on the scene in Miami?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
He's gone Hollywood on his hadn'ty by himself? What about
that influencer? What about Belichick? Rocky wants to know any
on that? On Belichick?

Speaker 10 (57:01):
Apparently? What about Jordan? Apparently young Jordan. There are reports
that in the Super Bowl commercial for Duncan Donuts, she
forced herself onto the commercial to be in the background.
Correct with Belichick?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Right? Is he looking for a PR representative? That's what
I understand. On X he's looking for a PR firm.
He's making a fool of himself. By the way, idiot,
he's already destroyed his legacy. Would you agree talk to
women of my bike, talk to talk to your wife?
About what she thinks about Jordan and Billy Boy for
the years age difference hockey news.

Speaker 10 (57:38):
Well, he had the Cyclones, our beloved Cyclones. The twenty
twenty five twenty six home opener will be taking place Saturday,
October eighteenth. What about Paul lawis Heritage Bank Center when
the Cyclones host those wheeling kneels? What about Paul Lawss
up there, he's got He's got his h They got

(57:58):
his name up there on the Hall of Fame. He
deserves hired number, He deserves it. This is not going
to go over good in Springfield Township. What Michigan football
coach Football coach Sharon Moore expected to be suspended for
two games? What for the upcoming twenty twenty five seasons?

(58:18):
Part of a self imposed sanctions doing by the university
for the Connor Stallions advanced scouting scan standal scandal.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Connor Stallions, Yeah, explain the whole scandal if you can.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
Well, I guess he went to other teams and was
sitting up in the in the rafters watching up practice,
watching practice, And I guess you know, is that a
big deal. Let's see Michigan opens against hosting New Mexico.
Then they go to Oklahoma, but apparently it's the third
and fourth games that he's going to be that coach
Moore has been against Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
They don't need him against New Mexico. I think that
the aggies is that correct. Might want to look that up.
That's where Richard Patino came from. What happens What happens
when Rocky Boy Mean's Bill Belichick goes to TCU with
North Carolina open up the season at TCU the whole
by the way, if Tom Brenneman's daughter's graduation.

Speaker 10 (59:11):
If he does any kind of games with Bill Belichick
and being the stuff back, because if not, we're gonna
grill him.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Do you think he's really going to coach the Tar Heels?
If I was North Carolina, I get rid of him.
Now twenty nine million dollar buyout.

Speaker 10 (59:25):
Well, in that case, yeah, somebody just write a check,
and you know he's got to get a go Funbee
page going.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
He's got a ten million dollars six year contract with
a buyout ten million a year. Well, and she's got
already eight million of his assets in her name. What
did he get from that relationship? Was what I don't
understand she got, you know, what we'll last Rocky, Rocky,
Rocky knows all about that answer. What does Belichick get
out of this? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (59:52):
I want to know Rocky needs to answer. That's fortune.
What does he get ro He's an expert. Does he
need fame?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
He's a next with Belichick's need a fortune? What's he
getting out of this?

Speaker 10 (01:00:04):
All you got to do is be Bill Belichick walking
to a place with all six of your rings on it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
That's it? Now? What about the one more thing? At baseball?

Speaker 10 (01:00:13):
Kansas City Royals hit a franchise record seven homers yesterday
at Baltimore. Luke Maylee and Jonathan India went deep. How
about that for Kansas City? First home run, first homers
as a Royal for both Malee at a Covcath was
recalled just three days ago from Triple A.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Omaha. You know I had dinner yesterday at Ron's Rus
with Olga. Yes, and Ron I asked Olga, what do
you think about Bill Belichick taking up with a woman
fifty years of his junior? And she said he's making
a damn fool of himself. Correct, said Olga, never three
her words or ever spoken. And Ron Walking said, I
kind of get that wouldn't you, Well, I mean something

(01:00:53):
with you and Denise and some young twenty two year
old saddled up next to the seg man. What would
you do? Pass outs? Bingo bingo? Pass outs. Denise and
I were there Saturday, So the superstars Saratoga Chips got
some turkey potatoes and he got to get a cheese
sandwich delicious, Sean Donovan got some chicken breasts. All guys

(01:01:16):
sat down with us yep, making a damn full of himself.
But Ron says, what happens if he impregnates her, then
babies come? Now we're now, we're talking. Now, she's got
the Golden ticket, now the now, the Pandoras. Now it's open. Yeah,
but she's too old for the players that Belichick is

(01:01:39):
coaching at North Carolina. How's that going to make a difference?
Have you've seen my Twitter account with my picture of
Belichick and Jordan when circa the year two thousand or one? Correct? Now,
what about the Trumpster once wants to reopen O. I
saw the movie Too Many Escapes take Place from that.

Speaker 10 (01:02:00):
Was a I named guy named Norris and two mothers more. Yeah,
they still don't know whether they all supposedly they're died,
but but I don't know. Say, get me out of
the Stuge report. I'm gonna hear from the American people.
I'm gonna open up the lines. What in your name?
I broad Now you're gonna sit out right, You're not
gonna sit out like the other night.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I'm not gonna fall down. And we got to go
a segment. Get me out of the Stooge Report, Willy and.

Speaker 10 (01:02:23):
Utter of the red legs on the road tonight in
the atl we leave you with the immortal words of
the Stude Report.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Well, we'll see what happens, won't Oh boy, seven hundred WLW,
Hilly cunning into Great America. Now is your time to
join me on seven hundred WLW. Let your voice be
heard if six lines all are opened for your telephone

(01:02:53):
calls at five win three, seven four, nine, seven thousand
or pounds seven hundred and uh once your comment. So
in the events of what's happened last Thursday and Friday,
and where you stand on the issue, if anywhere understand
there's a makeshift memorial taking place on mL King Junior
and near Burnett Woods where the killing took place of
Officer Larry Henderson, who served thirty three years Hamley County

(01:03:17):
Sheriff's Department. Part of the time was spent on the
bomb Squad disarming explosive devices. Part of the time was
spent on the dive unit inside the Ohio River, part
of the time was spent assisting the FBI on high
risk issues. And now in peace, after serving for thirty
three years, Officer Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson finds himself in

(01:03:40):
a situation not of his making, but of the making
of some criminal who wanted revenge and retribution in his
sick mind for the taking the life of his son,
whose behavior calls exactly what occurred to him. And two
thanks before I go to the calls. Seven four nine
seven pounds seven hundred are the comments of the Vice

(01:04:00):
Mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Jan Michelle Kearney, who said, quote,
our community is grieving for the eighteen year old young
man whom we lost too soon in the Hamony County
Sheriff who was killed today in the line of duty.
We pray for their families and for our police share
of families. The equivalizations being drawn between the life and
the death of Deputy Larry Henderson, along with the life

(01:04:25):
and the death of eighteen year old Ryan Hinton, which
I reject completely. I mean, every human life has value,
but in one case it was a brave soldier who
stood up against the criminal element for years and decades,
not being Larry Henderson, and the other one being Ryan Hinton,
who was only eighteen years old that found himself in

(01:04:45):
a position where he was in a stolen vehicle possessing
weapons I was illegal for him to possess. I'm told
he's got an extensive previous juvenile record, and I want
to get your thoughts about the police community seven four
nine seven thousand. First call will be John from Dayton.
We have three lines open five one three seven four
nine seven thousand to get your feeling yea or nay.

(01:05:06):
And I'll give each caller about thirty seconds to a
minute more or less a fast break to offer the
condolences for one or the other before I go to
the calls. I also would point out that in social
media on a there's a hashtag stand with Rodney being
the thirty eight year old father Justice for Rodney, and

(01:05:27):
one of the memes here indicates they really tried to
use over thirty deputies to intimidate Rodney Hinton, but he
kept his head up. There is a thought in our city,
in our region that there's an acquivalization between the eighteen
year old who was a felon who tried had the

(01:05:49):
ability to kill police officers, whose own behavior brought about
his death, and the murder of Deputy Larry Henderson. Let's
go to the calls now, and we have we have
John and Dayton and Larry and riding the Home of
the Blue Devils, and Jason back in Cincinnati, Eddie and
Cole Ran and many others, and John and Dayton. Welcome
to the Bill Cunningham showing John, how are you? How

(01:06:11):
are you? And give me give me a full report
on this issue.

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
I'm good, How were you willing?

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Pretty good? John?

Speaker 11 (01:06:17):
Good listening to this over the past couple of days.
There's been two things that I think are important that
I haven't heard brought up yet, and the first of
which is at eighteen years old, it was illegal for
him even to have a handgun.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Anyway, say that again, because many don't understand it is
illegal in Ohio. Some states have at eighteen, but in
Ohio it is illegal to possess a handgun.

Speaker 11 (01:06:42):
Correct period until until the age of twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:06:48):
And then the other thing everyone everyone brings up is
why didn't they try to use a taser? And I
don't don't. I don't think people understand that that. I
believe it's something to affect forty percent of the time.
Tasers are ineffective in the first place, yep. Let alone,
when an officer staring down the barrel of a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Gun well ten feet away, use the taser in your
miss or you hit the guy and he's got a
round in the chamber. He's got an extended mag Now,
why would he purposely take the gun from the car
unless he planned to use it? Why would he drop
the car, drop the gun in the parking lot as

(01:07:28):
he fell, and then pick it up if he didn't
intend to use it. Why did he have a round
in the chamber unless he intended to use it? And
why did you point the gun at the cop unless
he intended to use it? Answer those questions.

Speaker 11 (01:07:41):
I don't understand the victim mentality of this all, Like
how how how much more clear cut can a case be?

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
And it's on video, It's on video, you can see it.
And I know what the radical left is saying that
is there's not a snapshot we had on Chief Thiji
about two hours ago. There's not a clear snapshot in
the video of the gun actually pointed at the officer,
and she said it's because the camera was moving as

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the officer was running. As soon as one officer yelled gun, gun, gun,
their weapons came out because they were in a life
and death struggle. How long would it have take them
to him to redirect the barrel of the gun from
forward toward the officer and shoot with the extended meg
about twenty four shots. It would have taken him a
split second to make that movement. And when you engage
in this kind of behavior, the result can be your

(01:08:32):
own death. Thanks for calling. Let's continue now with Larry
and reading the Home of the Blue Devils and Larry,
Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 12 (01:08:40):
Larry, your comments, well, I was the first person to
always jump out of my car and protect the police officer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I fight for him.

Speaker 12 (01:08:48):
But I'll tell you what a couple of weeks ago,
I ran into an officer on a civil matter and
I was treated so poorly and yelled at and degraded
in front of people, and I just want to tell everybody.
It just takes his n see the police out there listening.
All it takes is want of you guys to turn
people around on you guys because you all wear the
same uniform. Now I don't like the police. After I was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
That's it, You're gone. The fact of the matter is
to are cops perfect beings?

Speaker 8 (01:09:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Can they make a mistake, yes, But the words express
assuming they were in anger, have nothing to do with
the murder of a deputy sheriff. The murder, and if
one cop does something wrong, which happens occasionally, doesn't mean
all cops are responsible any more than if one young
black kid commits a crime, that doesn't make all black
kids responsible. In the city of Cincinnati, there is about

(01:09:38):
twenty thousand young black males, and of that group, probably
if five hundred commit crimes. It's a small number, but
the face of crime in Cincinnati is largely a black
male face of a young person. But the great majority
of black young males have nothing to do with crime.
But I'm sorry for your circumstance, but I disagree. Let's

(01:09:59):
go to Ja Jason, Cincinnati, then Greg and Dent and
Jason and Cincinnati. Please, what do you got welly.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
It's an honor to talk to you today, first time
speaking to you.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
You're a great man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
God bless you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:12):
Thanks far as far as the Yahoo before me, get
him out of here. I am a product of a
failed juvenile court system myself. All they did as a
youth would slap me on the wrist until I turned
eighteen years old, and then it took the honorable Norbert
Natle to set me on the right path. I got

(01:10:35):
in trouble as a young adult and I went in
front of Norbert Natle and he sent me to jail.
When I got out of jail, I actually had the
opportunity to meet him and talk to him, and the
first thing I said to him was thank you because
he saved my life. If he wouldn't have stepped in
and showed me how to be a man, I wouldn't

(01:10:56):
be where I am today. It's a travesty. What happened
to the police officer. I can't believe it. He had
nothing to do with the young Hinton junior, you know,
committing the crime. I mean, you're sitting in a car
that's stolen. You'd wait for the police to pull up
and then you take.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Off running and none left that nothing would have happened.
And today's world, he.

Speaker 6 (01:11:15):
Could have left that gun.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Let's just say that, you know, he would have left
the gun in the car and took off running. Then
he wouldn't have got shot. I mean, it's it's one
of those situations where you play stupid games and you
win stupid prizes.

Speaker 6 (01:11:28):
It's a sad loss.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
It's sad to see a young black man with no
direction in his life out here stealing cars from people
who work hard to afford their vehicle. You come along,
you steal it with a with a US B cord,
and then you're sitting in the apartments hanging out with
your buddies like it's your car. And then you take
off and you get shot. And then your dad ends

(01:11:51):
up hitting an innocent cop who's out here doing his job,
who's retired as a family, didn't think about anything, just
ahead and just and hit hit the sheriff. And it's terrible.
But it all bleeds back to a terrible juvenile court
system where for decades they have failed the youth in Cincinnati.

(01:12:14):
And I was the product of the failed youth. And
it's you know, I don't have a problem today standing
up and saying that they failed me as a young man.

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
My dad did the best he could. God rest his soul.

Speaker 5 (01:12:29):
I was just a wavered youth and it took Norbert
natal to set me on the right path. And thank God,
I got to thank him for really saving my life.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
And Judge Nick Natle died about six years ago. He
was a great man. I'll say this that it is
perceived as no big deal if you're a juvenile who
commits a felony. And how many County Juvenile Court would
Judge Carrie Bloom is the chief judge, And it's damn
near impossible to be sent to juvenile jail if you
commit serious crimes. And told by Cincinnati police that this individual,

(01:13:03):
this eighteen year old Ryan Hinton, had an extensive previous
juvenile record for which there was no punishment. And so
in his mind, I can heist a car, use it
for illegitimate purposes, I will suggest to you steal a gun,
put an extended mag on it with the intent of
using it. The only reason he took the gun as
the police were trying to arrest him was to use

(01:13:25):
it against them. He wasn't going to use it against
his three co conspirators. He wanted to kill police, which
is why he chambered around. Why if you know anything
about handguns, why do you chamber around? Why do you
take the safety off? The purpose is you be ready,
And he was going to kill police, and but for
the quick action I want for anybody, for anybody, and

(01:13:47):
why you're rolling around anybody? There were armed robbery, burglary,
drug deals, breaking into stores. How many times have I
seen a Kia or a Hyundai go into a pawn
shop in order to steal guns? It happens all the time.
I think about Benjamin Addison. Justin Dugan in Mount Auburn
used a gun to try to steal his Benjamin Addison's hyunday,

(01:14:11):
and he went out to stop him, and Justin Dugan
murdered Benjamin Addison. And it all began with stealing of
a car. It's like, no big Well, it is a
big deal when you steal somebody's car because you don't
know what the hell is going to happen. And the
result of this, Larry Henderson is dead. They started the
long start. I wish there was a way to get

(01:14:33):
these three kids, eighteen and nineteen year old kids that
are alive I wish there was a way to hook
them with the murder of Deputy Larry Henderson, but legally
it's probably not possible because they were part they started
the whole thing that resulted in the deputy sheriff being murdered,
and there was a broken approximate cause was broken. But

(01:14:54):
I wish there was a way to send these three away.
For years they participated in events that resulted in the
murder of a cop, and they're gonna get They're going
to get out of it, and I predict little or
nothing's going to happen to these three. In fact, one
of them was in court this morning. Sincere gregs be eighteen,
he was given twenty five one thousand dollars bond, he's
likely out right Now, let's continue with Greg and Dent.

(01:15:16):
Greg and Dent, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. Greg,
Please go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:15:21):
How you doing, Bill, Great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Day to being American. But some days are better than others.

Speaker 13 (01:15:27):
Okay, Well, I'm a middle aged man, fifty five years old,
and it all goes back to the same thing every
time I hear about these horrible stories, and it is
a horrible story. But if that kid would have just
listened to the cops like I was taught to do.

(01:15:49):
He would still be here, everybody would still be here.
But he chose not to listen to him. And I
don't understand that. Where did that faction go away? Where
the cops? You can negotiate with a cop. I never
negotiated with a cop when for christ sake, when I
was sixteenth, they pulled me over and told me to

(01:16:11):
poop in the bag. I poop in the bag. I mean,
come on, why does the thing nowadays that you don't
have to do what they say?

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Well, Greg, it's culturally acceptable. I'll tell you what, Greg.
If you look online, there's a hashtag supporting supporting Rodney,
who's the third eight year old father. There's a faction
of our community who believed that assaults on police officers
are justified because of historical racial prejudices committed by other
cops other times, other circumstances. The present police division has

(01:16:43):
nothing to do with the police division of a one
hundred years ago, nothing to do with it. And there's
a disrespect for law and order that exists in our
society almost everywhere that manifests itself in the killing of cops.
The beating of cops. And all they as you said,
all these four punks had to do was get out
of the car, put their hands up, They get arrested,
The owner of the Kia gets his car back in Kentucky,

(01:17:06):
and the four of them are They're out on bond
within three or four hours of no bond at all.
Henderson is still alive and Rodney Hinton is not facing
a murder charge. All they had to do was comply
with the police then fight it out in court later on.
That's all that had to happen. And they refuse to
do so because there's an idea that attacking and harming

(01:17:27):
police is culturally acceptable and that is sick. And I
got to run, Greg, you got me all urinated off.
I don't know how we got to this situation. I
don't know how, but we're here now and it's not good.
Let's continue with more. I want to apologize to the
rest on hold and we will. We have Scott from
Sharonville if you can remember to call back tomorrow. He
wants to set up a GoFundMe page for the cops,

(01:17:50):
so we'll see what we can do. Bill Cunningham, News
Radio seven hundred WW.

Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
In fact, please allow me, friends to digress for a moment. Okay,
it's kind of dark in here, but I'm asked with
show of hands, who saw that video from a couple
of weeks ago, the one of the elephants at the
San Diego.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Zoo during the earthquake?

Speaker 13 (01:18:12):
Googolate?

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Have you've not seen it?

Speaker 7 (01:18:17):
So that scene has been on my mind. Everybody's asking
me what you've been thinking about these days?

Speaker 9 (01:18:22):
Well, oh oh, hello, hello, quiet, I'm broadcastings WROT.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
You've been thinking about dancing elephants at a zoo? One
might ask, what else is here to think about?

Speaker 14 (01:18:44):
We were fairly close to listen to that every day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
You give me your analysis of what happened on Thursday
and Friday. Lots of stuff going on. You've seen the memes,
you showed me a couple of them. In fact, tomorrow,
isn't there a pal well at the arrayment? The second
Arrayment of a Rodney Hinton at nine o'clock in the morning. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:19:03):
This was posted on the Greater Cincinnati Politics facebook page.
I guess a group called Cincinnati Socialists segment. Are you
a member?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
I believe no?

Speaker 14 (01:19:12):
Uh yeah, they're having some get together eight a at
ten to eleven am to show, show out and chat.
We don't condone murder, but we do stand under Rodney
Hinton Junior and those affected by state violence.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
We're fed up state and the police, the state violence.

Speaker 14 (01:19:29):
You believe that, I mean everything you can to like
not throw throw the phone through the through the window.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
I have other indications of what social media is doing
to this case, which is which is very very sad
and uh it talks about black men being shot down
like dogs by white police officers, which has nothing whatsoever
to do with this case. Zero zelch. The color doesn't matter.
Behavior counts for everything. And you're you're like a handgun expert, correct, Yes,

(01:19:57):
I am. In other words, if you're eighteen, you can
I legally possess a gun in the state of Ohio.
You cannot possess a handgun got to be twenty one,
So that's a felony. That's number two. How about heisting
stealing auto theft of a of a of a twenty
twenty three Kia Strike two felony and then coming across
state lines and possession of a handgun illegal FBI number

(01:20:18):
three and then going to some place a little bit
secreted at these priced Silicondra project. One way in, one
way out. I would assume the smoke pot of God
knows to do what else? Number four? Here comes the
cruisers because of the tracking device on the vehicle. Here
they come though. Now at this point, Ryan Hinton's got
decisions to make. Does he come out, put his hands

(01:20:40):
up and say, I'm under rest, You got me, I'll
be out. I'll be out by five o'clock. Right?

Speaker 14 (01:20:45):
No, But if he does all that, no matter what
he's he's still living. And then then you know Henderson.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Number two. There's two guns in the car. Both are illegal.
One has an extended meg which gun to pick? The
one with the extending mag all right?

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Why why would you do that? They have more bullets
to shoot?

Speaker 13 (01:21:05):
All right?

Speaker 14 (01:21:06):
How about an extended like a normal block magazine normally
like a glock seventeen is probably as a standard block
seventeen round mag An extended mag holds thirty three.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
Thirty three, so you got thirty three shots to and
you know you've got trouble now the police is eighteen.
He shouldn't have it illegal? Right At number three, he drops,
he trips and falls and there goes the weapon on
the pavement. He's got another decision to make. Don't put
my hands up and say you got me? Do I
bug you into the that's the one. It's like, there
was the opportunity rights.

Speaker 14 (01:21:36):
The gun falls on the ground, saying, you know what,
all right, the compet right there goes on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
You got me? Got me? No? No, what does he do?
Pix it up? Pix it up?

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Why would he do that if he didn't intend to
use use it? And then he runs not directly into
the woods. There's two dumpsters that are at large metal
dumpsters he could get behind and do whatever. He runs
in between the dumpsters with the loaded gun in his
right hand, and then he's told again gun gun gun.
You know, as a cop supporter, when the word gun
gun gun comes out, you pulled out your weapon because

(01:22:06):
you're thinking it's gunsmot times it's serious things. He comes
around and you can't see him point the barrel, which
is what THESEI said with me about two and a
half hours ago, because it's obscured. But the cop said,
of course, he picked up the gun out of the car.
He tripped and fell, picked up the gun. He chambered
around took off the safety. He runs between the dumpsters

(01:22:27):
and then he's told to stop, stop, stop, and he doesn't,
and the cop perceived him to point the gun at him.
Where's the bad part of this?

Speaker 14 (01:22:36):
Everything was in his power to not allow this to happen,
and he, by his own choice, seemingly decided to. There
was like four different things that could have stopped that
right along the way, could have not picked up the gun,
could have not ran, could have obviously not stolen the car,
all that sort of thing. There was like three or
four different things that could have happened that he said, Okay,

(01:22:57):
you know what, this isn't a good idea, No, but
he just blew through all four of those and please
had to use do what they had to do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Seg your reaction. Middletown cop is injured today another car
that was stolen, car stolen runs into the Middletown cop.
He is in the hospital. How about Benjamin Addison Mount
Alburn guy tries to steal a car and the murderer
game was James Dougan is convicted of manslaughter, should have
been murdered against twenty one years. All you gotta do
is just say hey, hands luked this out and in

(01:23:28):
today's world, what happens nothing on a car theft nothing
nothing segment.

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the homestander on the road. Now for seven first of
forur To died in Atlanta, it'll be the seven under
wlw's coverage with Lance and six oh five in Sports
Talk Arnold Carriers, Inside Pitch and the Kelsey Chevrolet Extra
Ding show after the game.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
One other thing rock to reflect upon. There's a go
fundme page now set up to assist the murderer who
killed Larry Henderson. Go fund me page and uh, it's
going to get thousands of dollars donated to it, along
with Luigi Mangioni, the guy who killed the healthcare execut
thousands of dollars two million at this point million, two million.

(01:24:31):
And now this one is set up to assist the
defense work on behalf of the law firm Johnny Cochrane
Law firm, and Michael Wright's going to handle the defense
of mister Rodney Hinton, who now has a go Fundme page.
Seg your reaction will ye. Let's see Miami Middletown. They're
headed to the uscaa small college baseball World Series again.

(01:24:53):
Let's see. Aren't they there every year?

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
That was UC Claremont. Oh okay.

Speaker 10 (01:24:58):
The He's seven National Football League Draft will be held
in Washington, d C. For the first time in eighty
six years on the National Mall National of the Washington Monument.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
And is that the new stadium will be built by then?

Speaker 10 (01:25:14):
All the commanders are going to have a three point
seven five eight nine billion dollars stadium.

Speaker 14 (01:25:19):
Is the Trump's are gonna be there? Is just gonna
walk out and walk down the lawn there.

Speaker 10 (01:25:23):
And he announced it in the White House today with
you're good Fred Roger Goodell standing next to him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
You like lookalalikes you and Roger Goodell?

Speaker 11 (01:25:31):
Anyone.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
I've told you that you and Ken Brew.

Speaker 14 (01:25:32):
I have heard that, all right. I also good Jack Reacher,
the guy who plays Jack Reacher. I don't like that
guy because he's left wing activist.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
I don't like him. Is he really yes, he is
a big, strong guy. I was talking about that. No.
I like Jack Reacher. I like the original one. The
second one is not so good. He's a lefting radical extremist.
Trump's also going to open up Alcatraz. You hear that.
I love that. I saw the movie, Clint Eastwood. I
saw the movie. I saw The Day Escape.

Speaker 14 (01:26:00):
They did escape, So the great unsolved mysteries on that,
the casts of their head, and if.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
They would have lived, we'd know, right, you'd have to think.

Speaker 14 (01:26:09):
I saw a documentary not long ago that made the case.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
It may have. It reached pretty far. What about dB Cooper?
Did we find out who that guy was? Jumped down
on the plane. They're still looking for him, still looking
for him along with those along with Bigfoot. Let's see
us open qualifier today Willie at Mcateewak Country Club. Let's
see J. D.

Speaker 10 (01:26:29):
Collins out of Lexington and Daniel Wedderick as Cincinnati is
a sixty eight. Leo Wessel out of Indianapolis is also
two under through sixteen. What about Brett Rehderick. You're not
going to make it. Let's see, uh, mister Wessell had
a birdie on one far three and ninety yard hole
in one, dunked it on number.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Two three under I don't have the old average, then
number three double bogie.

Speaker 10 (01:26:55):
But he is going to it looks like he's going
to make the cut the head to the US Open.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
My friend Steve Tina wants to know about Will Grimmer?
What about him?

Speaker 10 (01:27:03):
Will Grimmer is currently at through fifteen. He's two over
not good. The projected cut is one under not good.
Let's see what else. Beloved Cyclones their twenty twenty five
twenty six home opener is going to be hosting Wheeling
Downtown on Saturday, October the eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Go fund me page for the father accused of killing
Larry Henderson's got to go fund me page to help him.
Rocky reaction segment, Please continue.

Speaker 10 (01:27:32):
Quarterback Joe Burrow, how about this scene this weekend at
the Formula one Miami Grand Prix.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
But Jordan Hudson, is that correct? I don't think well.
The pictures I saw is by herself? Here we go?
How about you? Got it? Is he taking up with her? Now?
I ran into Olgus Saturday Sunday afternoon at Ron's Ruse.
I said, Olga, I said, what do you think about Bill? Belichick.
And she looked at me and said, he's lost his mind.

(01:28:02):
He's making a fool of them.

Speaker 14 (01:28:03):
Bill Belichick should be with a woman like Olga.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
I said, would you date some fifty some forty year old?
She said no, she said, I'm done with that. I'm
done with that. But Bill, that's the kind.

Speaker 14 (01:28:17):
Of girl Belichick, and someone's going to take care of
him for him.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
We fell in love with something else. What's he getting
out of this? She got eight million, it's very obvious.
Well she got it. She got eight million dollars, she
got fame and fortune. Belichick didn't need fame, didn't need fortune.
So what's the happy he got the thing? Penetration. Yeah,
and August said to me, what happens if she gets pregnant? Then,

(01:28:44):
oh my god, then all you know what's going to
break loose. So that's the golden ticket right there. Little Willy,
a little Willy comes out like a little turtle head
out more.

Speaker 15 (01:28:54):
Issues in a magazine stand Michigan had Football Cold Your
Own More Not Good expected to be suspended for two
games for the upcoming twenty twenty five season as part
of self imposed sanctions.

Speaker 10 (01:29:06):
By the Wolverines for the Connor Stallions Advanced Scouting.

Speaker 14 (01:29:12):
There's a documentary on Netflix on Connor Stallions and the
just the how damn good he was at stealing sign
You should watch.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
It's unbelievable. Like in football, when the guy's on the
sideline doing this.

Speaker 14 (01:29:26):
Right, he's he could decipher within like a couple of drives,
you know, because usually there'll be separate coaches like you know,
maybe the OC and analysts and like the third string
quarterback and which one is the real one either by quarter,
by half or by one is given one the other.
They're all three given signs, but only one of them
is a real sign. He can figure out who's given

(01:29:48):
the real sign, what the play is. I mean he
is right, yes, but you're not allowed to go to
an opposing schools stadium and the audience or I mean this,
there was a report he was on Central Michigan's the
chip of online during a game for one of Michigan's opponents.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
But it's legal to do it, and it's frowned upon.

Speaker 14 (01:30:12):
I would say, look, I mean every school tries to
steal the other school signals. It's just he went to
extreme links illegal lengths to do such.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Does notre Dame do that. Does Notre Dame cheat also
absolutely not.

Speaker 14 (01:30:27):
Well, look the helmet, the helmet communication thing is should
be an end all that stuff. I mean, it could
have been done twenty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Really good at cheating. Didn't want it to be done.
That's the that's the brutal truth on that. Like in baseball,
you know, on the side of the baseball you have
to and the same thing in football. You know, whether
you have a two deep, three deep zone, man demand
blitz whatever it is, and if you know what's coming,
you tell the linebacker in the headset, Hey, they're coming
on the right side. Makes a difference. So Michigan cheated

(01:30:55):
its way to the glory of the National Hardball got damned.
Now swing more.

Speaker 14 (01:31:06):
You suspend himself for two games, throw himself at the
mercy of the n C Double A, and therefore they
won't punish him anymore now.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
On the mercy of the court. I don't know. Again,
it's all our balls out of there. Michigan cheated its
way to the title, that's all I know.

Speaker 14 (01:31:19):
You just wonder how many other schools were going to
the same lengths.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
That's that's what I what's his crimes? He probably donates
money to the go fund me page. He's probably on
the case right beyond the case, Rock, what's on the
big show at three o'clock, big news conference. I don't
know if he'll be on time or not.

Speaker 14 (01:31:38):
Yeah, we got a news conference of three.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
But cart the family, well they we're going to look
into it to see the answers. Yes, this is the
lawyers for the Hitting family. My good friend Michael Wright.
If loving him is wrong, I don't want to be right,
Michael Wright.

Speaker 14 (01:31:52):
Well, we're supposed to have a guest on air traffic
controllers and the shortage and all that sort of thing.
That's a three that may have to get bumped back.
Got Dean Regus later.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Asteroid's gonna kill us all everything, everything do all right, Rock,
thank you segment. You need to stand tall and don't
donate money to this go fund me page. Okay, okay,
all right, say give me out of the Stude report, please?

Speaker 10 (01:32:14):
Will they an honor of the red legs on the
road and hopefully it's a better road trip than the
homestand easy for you to say, we leave you with
the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

Speaker 16 (01:32:26):
But I wanted to I wanted to make sure I
did everything I could to keep us safe while repairing
some of the damaged reputation of this office rock.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
What else they have on besides the obvious the news
conference at three o'clock allegedly involving the attorneys for the
Rodney and the family and the estate they want to sue.
They want to sue in behalf of the eighteen year
old dead guy. They want to sue on his behalf
to get money alleging wrongful behavior by the Cincinnati police.

Speaker 14 (01:32:58):
Our four o'clock guest, by the way, is an expert
on the pope. They're choosing a new pope, but Ross
says that I was gonna be good that I mean,
what do you like?

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Most people don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:33:06):
Then most people know about the smoke and the white
smoke and the black smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
He's gonna give us the whole rundown. Those who know
aren't talking to those and talking. I don't. I don't
even know who the contenders are. Well, they got Sarah
from from Africa. He's pretty popular. Got the Phillip Sarah
from the morning morning show. Is Sarah going to be
the pope? She's going in the papacy can't say, I
don't know. You talk here every morning, seg you you
spend every morning with her, correct three or four hours more.

(01:33:32):
Didn't you say to her one night you want to
be called or nudge, I'm gonna you say that they're
just gonna go drink a fifth right now? Or is
she gonna go into the nunnery? Wouldn't that be something?
Seg Now, that would be something. Sarah Alice, sister of charity,
Sister Sarah. She gives what's a great movie? Two mules
for Sister Sarah. How about that segment, Clint Eastwood, remember that?
Remember that segment? I didn't see that one, No, Rocky

(01:33:55):
think I like the Outlaw Josie Wales. I like that
one's good. One after three o'clock. Maybe the news conference
involving the family representing the young man who was killed
because of his own behavior on news radio seven hundred
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