June 10, 2025 • 17 mins
Willie discusses the arrest of a local high school student and athlete who was here illegally since he was a child, and the protest that accompanied the arrest with Butler County Sheriff Richard K Jones.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, arthor Sheriff Richard K.
Jones is in trouble once again with the mainstream media.
And then we're going to get a general viewpoint of
Emerson at Colendrius, who is the nineteen year old, a
young man who has a deportation order against him that's
called the Cincinnati Socialist to go crazy. I'm sure Richard K.
Jones is concerned with the Socialist. According to AP story,
(00:28):
the morning after the ANI protest by hundreds, a group
more than thirty people return to the sidewalk in front
of the Butler County Jail to announce Richard K. Jones quote,
immigrants are welcomed here. The demonstrators put together by the
Cincinnati Socialist or there to call for the release of
one of their members and for all people detained in
the jail by the KKK, also known as Iice. Richard K. Jones,
(00:53):
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
with your permission, Richard K. Jones, I want to get
a general statement from you about Emerson Calundrius. But can
I tell you first of all the due process rights
that he's gone through.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Go ahead, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
When he was a young man, he was brought here
from Central America, and shall I say, his mother and
the whole clan were brought here illegally, and he grew
up in this community. He graduated at one point from
Dat another point from Western Hills High School. He's nineteen
years old and immigrants immigrant rights organizations have spent years
appealing his case. In fact, it went to the Sixth
(01:29):
Circuit US Court of Appeals twice, and each time he
was turned down for immigration status. He was not a
shall I say, a political refugee, and there's five qualifications
he was none of them, went up and down, up
and down. Finally, several several months ago, there was a
deportation ordered issued on mister Emerson Calundraus and his family
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that they have to go back to Central America. And
so I hear liberals like Tony Bender, my producer, quite
often saying, you know what, we got to have due process,
we need to do. This guy had years of due
process and he lost, and there was a deportation order
against him that was executed. First of all, your comment
on that, before we talk about your friendship with the
(02:13):
socialist Listen.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The court system works, and you have when you come
to this country illegally, you got to follow the laws
of the land. That's our constitution. You can't just sneak
in here. And you have due process. He had all
of that and he didn't win in any piece of it.
He's been to court. He's been to court. So hey,
(02:38):
I agree with Ice one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
If it was in your power and your ability to
release Emerson Klendras, would you do it? You don't have
the power to do do it?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, I do not, But I would not when you
know that's a slippery slope. And what what what do
you listen to do you? This one has the case?
This one listen. You have to have a set of rules.
Some people can't just break the rules because you like
them more than others and they No, I would not
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do that. And he's got to go back to his
own country, whatever that country is. It's not my rules,
it's the rules of the court. And Ice done the
correct thing getting him in there to be arrested and
charged with violations and be shipped back to his country.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
In this Tuesday afternoon. Is he still in your custody
or has he been shipped back?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No? I believe he's still in my custody as we
speak today. Let's give a general they don't keep them.
They don't keep them long.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Here right now, if you have an order from a
judge which has been in the process for years, final
appealable order has been issued by one level below the
United States Supreme Court, the Sixth Circuit US Court of
Appeal said send him back, and the order has been issued.
In fact, if you or Ice would, we're not going
to abide by that court order. We're going to decide
(04:03):
for ourselves not to send them back. Couldn't you be arrested,
We'd be arrested.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
We'd be arrested. They be arrested, We'd be arrested. And
that's not going to happen. He's going to be deported.
It's just the rule is the law, and you've got
to abide by the court orders. Period.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What a novel concept. Now, let's talk about in general,
why Butler County Jail is the site of housing hundreds
of illegal aliens in the tri state. And also, I
think Boone County Jail is the same situation about how
many illegals do you have in your jail right now?
To your knowledge?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
About three fifty three eighty given depending what day it is.
In the jail here where we have a contract with ICE.
They but under this administration this time, they don't stay long.
Under President Trump and President Bush, the first the second
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President Bush, what they would do is they bring him in.
They stay for months and months and months. They come in.
Now they ship them out pretty quick, within a couple
of weeks. Usually they get them out of here. They're
on a bus, they're headed to the airport, and they're
shipped back to their country. If they didn't, they'd have
no room. County jails are the only place where they
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can house these people in the whole country, and they
only have so much bedspace that they're allowed to purchase.
And I believe they're getting close to that full mark.
So they got to get him in and then they've
got to get him out. It's a pretty big CIRVI.
It's like a Swiss watch. Every piece has to work.
What comes in has to go out on the other end,
(05:44):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
How many I think you're authorized for four hundred How
much money is Butler County? I saw numbers on one
website about a million dollars a month Butler County is
getting to house these individuals. Is that about correct? About
correct as far as as far as as far as
the high school soccer players is Emerson Colundras, the kid
(06:09):
from Central America is see the typical ice prisoner or
these bad ombrace.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They come across. Most of them come across the work.
Some of them have warrants. I got one that was
gone for twenty twenty five years that murdered somebody here
in Hamilton. Was gone twenty five years. That's how long
it took to get him back. I have one in
my jail that's been deported eight times and then he
murdered somebody when he was released the last time. He's
been deported from here eight times. He's got several different names.
(06:40):
I have some that are a majority of them have
come here to work, and then there's a small portion,
which is you know that comes in to violate, sell drugs,
drive intoxicated, won't work. Most of them come to work
and they work pretty hard. But they can't come here
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and take jobs away from Americans. And they'll say, well,
Americans won't do certain jobs. Well, that's because they don't
pay them enough. Listen, when you come here and there's
ten families living in one house or five families, and
you have to work from daylight to dark. I drove
past one place the other day. These people were working
(07:25):
on a house Saturday and Sunday and they were using
flashlights their car lights working building houses. And I almost
promise you that's not Americans, US citizens. And these people
work from daylight till dark. Then they go home, they
show back up, they drive them up in a van.
They have no driver's lives and somebody will drive them
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or they'll drive illegally. They work like slaves. It's the
equivalent of modern day slavery. Make no mistake about it.
It's not the American dream. It's really really sad for them,
these people that think that's okay that they have a
better life here. No, this isn't a better life, and
they can never become a US citizen. It's really a mess.
(08:09):
And our country. You know, we have legal immigration. Two
million people here a year come in legally every year.
Expand that a bit, but just not anybody that wants
to come in.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
As far as Kaylee Baker, I saw the video last night.
She's a twenty six year old who lives near Dayton
was arrested by Hamilton police officers. According to jail records, Baker,
woman twenty six years old. She was shouting Piggy, piggy,
piggy as the butler kind of sheriffs. I'm sure that
had a measurable impact in your life. Piggy, piggy, piggy.
(08:43):
And she was started with felony assault for misdemeanors obstructing
official business, resisting arrest, fair to disclose personal information, and
disardly conduct, anything else you could charge her with. And
she's yelling, piggy, piggy, piggy. Where is she now?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Hayley Baker She she think she bonded out her parents
apologized to the court. I was told today, uh that
she wasn't raised that way. She's not from around here.
Uh but and I think she's a four hour drive
from here. But what they do is they get online
and they believe all this crazy stuff and then they
(09:17):
beg for their mommy to come bail them out when
they get arrested. They've come to the wrong place. If
they come here, City of Hamilton Police Department won't take
this stuff. You can't come here and block roads off.
You can protest. Yeah, yeah, it's not like California.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Can you throw some cement blocks and cops and maybe
commercial great fireworks. Can you do that? Peace can very peaceful,
very peaceful.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Look, you can do it, but it won't end well
for you.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's peace You would have meant that's peaceful, isn't it?
Like maybe torts Butler County sheriff cars. That's peaceful.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's that's what the governor of California said, and the
mayor of Los Angeles protest. She was making that state
to the media. Police car was set on firm, blew up.
She said they were peaceful. Uh, and that's all a
bunch of crap. But listen, people don't want that stuff.
They don't want their stores looted and burned and the
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police cars and throw bricks at the police trying to
respond to help the other police. You do that and
you're going to go to jail California. Hey, they might
elect you to some high office if you do that stuff.
But not here, not here, we will not stand down.
And us and the Hamilton police and all the local
police Middletown, Farifield, Westchester, Listen, it's an orderly community to
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live and that's because we have good police, good corps,
good prosecutor. Mike Moser wouldn't put up with them all.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Have you notice you don't see Barnes and Nobles being looted.
They tend to be Nike stores. Is that Apple stores?
Let's go to Barnes and Nobles get that new book. No, no,
it's Nike, And I would point out, are you intimidated
by the Cincinnati socialist? They learned about the ice agent's
arrest of Emerson Calendras, a nineteen year old Honduran immigrant,
(11:05):
invited his family to speak at the June eighth protest.
What impact of these hundreds of gathering socialists have outside
the Butler County jail with the sheriff Richard K. Jones,
Are you worried about being intimidated by these individuals?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
A little fright No? No, No, I wasn't frightened. I
wasn't intimidated. And it takes a lot to do that. Yeah,
and to be upset. When I read the book when
old Yaller died, I teared up a little bit. So
other than that, it's pretty tough to get under my skin.
(11:44):
I've been doing this a while. But listen, Bill sometimes
what you got to do is you got to you
got to use force sometime when people loot throw bricks
at the police. When they were throwing the bricks at
those cars, those ice cars, the guy I had them
laying right there. Every car went by, he must have
threw at ten of them, knocking their windows out and
(12:06):
injured a couple of them and could have killed them.
He didn't care. He had his little helmet on. But
they arrested him because they offered a fifty thousand dollars reward.
His mother probably turned him in because he thought it
was funny. But I knew he wasn't going to But
sometimes the police, like in Los Angeles, you can't stand
there and let this happen. Sometimes you got to kill
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a fly with a sledgehammer. You know why. You got
to do that with a sledgehammer to a fly. You
know why? Because that's for the effect of the other flies.
That's what that is. They didn't do anything, so these
sorry people, they didn't arrest them, They didn't make a stand.
So everybody does what they want to do, and that's
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what they're doing, and they're going to continue to burn
New York or California it's gonna be that way all summer,
and there'll be other states joining in. No washing cee.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Lastly, I had a guest on earlier today. Patrick Herringer's
murder an Otr at the hands of Mordecai Black.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He was uh, he was out. He was not quite
on parole, but he was in post release. He had
an ankle bracelet on Uh. He cut it off for
four months. The police here, other agencies did nothing to
find him. He's walking around Otr with a large butcher
knife in his hand, looking to do something. He knocks
(13:28):
on the door of Patrick Herringer and Otr and Uh
at four o'clock in the morning. Sadly the door was opened.
He went in, got one hell of a fight. This
this man, this forty six year old owner of a gym,
survived a rock. He survived Afghanistan. The army officer, he
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was given all the decorations, basically the army could give
him come back home a U see graduate he's murdered
by Mordecai Black and now you can't find the city
leaders with a search warrant have to have pure of all.
No news conference today. There's a public safety committee meeting
going on, but the murderer of Patrick is not on
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the docket. If in the city of Hamilton, the city
of Fairfield, there's orders out for someone who's a rapist,
a murderer, he's walking around town with a butcher knife,
would that work well in downtown Fairfield?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
No, nowhere in Butler County would it work well at all?
And we would find this person, they'd be arrested within
a few hours. It's not minutes. You can't let these
people go out. Now, the Cincinnati police, they're some of
the best police there is in the entire country. The
police department is and it's it's tough. They work. They
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have leadership and their mayors and their city managers that
run back and control things. And how would you like
to be a policeman in Cincinnati? No? No, no, Hey,
who the hell would want to work there? But listen,
the police are the best, most trained there is. They're
second to none. They want to do stuff, but hey,
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they're city council and their city manager, their sanctuary city.
They you get bonded out pretty easy. Yep. They're all
short staffed. Yep. I feel sorry for him. Great people
you know him.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And I know I know I talked to him, and
they say, look, twenty years ago, we didn't need speed
bumps on Madison Road. We had criminals that would have
to be in jail before they were bonded out on
high bonds. We had judges that would send people to jail.
There's three legs of the justice stool. One leg is
the police officer, the second leg is the prosecutor, and
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the third leg is the judge. And if one of
those three legs not working, we got all hell breaking loose.
And many times in Hamilton County we have all three
legs not working. And public relations wise, it's great to
have a mayor that looks like he's off the pages
of GQ. But nonetheless he won't comment, he won't change
at all because it's not in their interest. Well, we
(16:02):
got to run, No, go ahead, please go ahead, share.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Hey, let's let's listen. Cincinnati is a different outfit. And
when you're a sanctuary city and you allow the stuff
to go on and uh, and your mayor is a
very pretty man. I agree with you, and listen. Uh,
so are you and I in our own way? Right?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And I don't know about that you.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Hey, I'm just I'm talking about feel good. No, no, no,
I'm talking about you, trying to make you feel good.
But listen, they've got a long summer ahead of them.
And this dude should have been locked up in jail,
should have been incarcerated. And now look, a good person
has died. And your mayor won't say a word, not
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going to counsel, won't mention a word of it, don't. Hey,
they're out campaigning and doing other things, probably not even
in town.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Nothing will change until it has changed, and I'll look
forward to November for a change. But I'll hold my
breath and turn blue until that happens. But uh, thanks,
thanks again.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, they're going to have to bring back mayor Cranby, Cranley, Cranly,
Oh Cranley, I met Cranley. Sorry Cranley, Cramby, Crany, yes,
Cramby like Crandly.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Cranley A right, thank you, Sheriff. I got it, and
give my best to Amberson Calandris. Will you get my best?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Hey, you're the man, see your brother.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham Cranley Cranby, seven hundred
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Billy Cunningham, the great American of course, arthor Sheriff Richard K.
Jones is in trouble once again with the mainstream media.
And then we're going to get a general viewpoint of
Emerson at Colendrius, who is the nineteen year old, a
young man who has a deportation order against him that's
called the Cincinnati Socialist to go crazy. I'm sure Richard K.
Jones is concerned with the Socialist. According to AP story,
(00:28):
the morning after the ANI protest by hundreds, a group
more than thirty people return to the sidewalk in front
of the Butler County Jail to announce Richard K. Jones quote,
immigrants are welcomed here. The demonstrators put together by the
Cincinnati Socialist or there to call for the release of
one of their members and for all people detained in
the jail by the KKK, also known as Iice. Richard K. Jones,
(00:53):
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
with your permission, Richard K. Jones, I want to get
a general statement from you about Emerson Calundrius. But can
I tell you first of all the due process rights
that he's gone through.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Go ahead, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
When he was a young man, he was brought here
from Central America, and shall I say, his mother and
the whole clan were brought here illegally, and he grew
up in this community. He graduated at one point from
Dat another point from Western Hills High School. He's nineteen
years old and immigrants immigrant rights organizations have spent years
appealing his case. In fact, it went to the Sixth
(01:29):
Circuit US Court of Appeals twice, and each time he
was turned down for immigration status. He was not a
shall I say, a political refugee, and there's five qualifications
he was none of them, went up and down, up
and down. Finally, several several months ago, there was a
deportation ordered issued on mister Emerson Calundraus and his family
(01:51):
that they have to go back to Central America. And
so I hear liberals like Tony Bender, my producer, quite
often saying, you know what, we got to have due process,
we need to do. This guy had years of due
process and he lost, and there was a deportation order
against him that was executed. First of all, your comment
on that, before we talk about your friendship with the
(02:13):
socialist Listen.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The court system works, and you have when you come
to this country illegally, you got to follow the laws
of the land. That's our constitution. You can't just sneak
in here. And you have due process. He had all
of that and he didn't win in any piece of it.
He's been to court. He's been to court. So hey,
(02:38):
I agree with Ice one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
If it was in your power and your ability to
release Emerson Klendras, would you do it? You don't have
the power to do do it?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, I do not, But I would not when you
know that's a slippery slope. And what what what do
you listen to do you? This one has the case?
This one listen. You have to have a set of rules.
Some people can't just break the rules because you like
them more than others and they No, I would not
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do that. And he's got to go back to his
own country, whatever that country is. It's not my rules,
it's the rules of the court. And Ice done the
correct thing getting him in there to be arrested and
charged with violations and be shipped back to his country.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
In this Tuesday afternoon. Is he still in your custody
or has he been shipped back?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No? I believe he's still in my custody as we
speak today. Let's give a general they don't keep them.
They don't keep them long.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Here right now, if you have an order from a
judge which has been in the process for years, final
appealable order has been issued by one level below the
United States Supreme Court, the Sixth Circuit US Court of
Appeal said send him back, and the order has been issued.
In fact, if you or Ice would, we're not going
to abide by that court order. We're going to decide
(04:03):
for ourselves not to send them back. Couldn't you be arrested,
We'd be arrested.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
We'd be arrested. They be arrested, We'd be arrested. And
that's not going to happen. He's going to be deported.
It's just the rule is the law, and you've got
to abide by the court orders. Period.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
What a novel concept. Now, let's talk about in general,
why Butler County Jail is the site of housing hundreds
of illegal aliens in the tri state. And also, I
think Boone County Jail is the same situation about how
many illegals do you have in your jail right now?
To your knowledge?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
About three fifty three eighty given depending what day it is.
In the jail here where we have a contract with ICE.
They but under this administration this time, they don't stay long.
Under President Trump and President Bush, the first the second
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President Bush, what they would do is they bring him in.
They stay for months and months and months. They come in.
Now they ship them out pretty quick, within a couple
of weeks. Usually they get them out of here. They're
on a bus, they're headed to the airport, and they're
shipped back to their country. If they didn't, they'd have
no room. County jails are the only place where they
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can house these people in the whole country, and they
only have so much bedspace that they're allowed to purchase.
And I believe they're getting close to that full mark.
So they got to get him in and then they've
got to get him out. It's a pretty big CIRVI.
It's like a Swiss watch. Every piece has to work.
What comes in has to go out on the other end,
(05:44):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
How many I think you're authorized for four hundred How
much money is Butler County? I saw numbers on one
website about a million dollars a month Butler County is
getting to house these individuals. Is that about correct? About
correct as far as as far as as far as
the high school soccer players is Emerson Colundras, the kid
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from Central America is see the typical ice prisoner or
these bad ombrace.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
They come across. Most of them come across the work.
Some of them have warrants. I got one that was
gone for twenty twenty five years that murdered somebody here
in Hamilton. Was gone twenty five years. That's how long
it took to get him back. I have one in
my jail that's been deported eight times and then he
murdered somebody when he was released the last time. He's
been deported from here eight times. He's got several different names.
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I have some that are a majority of them have
come here to work, and then there's a small portion,
which is you know that comes in to violate, sell drugs,
drive intoxicated, won't work. Most of them come to work
and they work pretty hard. But they can't come here
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and take jobs away from Americans. And they'll say, well,
Americans won't do certain jobs. Well, that's because they don't
pay them enough. Listen, when you come here and there's
ten families living in one house or five families, and
you have to work from daylight to dark. I drove
past one place the other day. These people were working
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on a house Saturday and Sunday and they were using
flashlights their car lights working building houses. And I almost
promise you that's not Americans, US citizens. And these people
work from daylight till dark. Then they go home, they
show back up, they drive them up in a van.
They have no driver's lives and somebody will drive them
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or they'll drive illegally. They work like slaves. It's the
equivalent of modern day slavery. Make no mistake about it.
It's not the American dream. It's really really sad for them,
these people that think that's okay that they have a
better life here. No, this isn't a better life, and
they can never become a US citizen. It's really a mess.
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And our country. You know, we have legal immigration. Two
million people here a year come in legally every year.
Expand that a bit, but just not anybody that wants
to come in.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
As far as Kaylee Baker, I saw the video last night.
She's a twenty six year old who lives near Dayton
was arrested by Hamilton police officers. According to jail records, Baker,
woman twenty six years old. She was shouting Piggy, piggy,
piggy as the butler kind of sheriffs. I'm sure that
had a measurable impact in your life. Piggy, piggy, piggy.
(08:43):
And she was started with felony assault for misdemeanors obstructing
official business, resisting arrest, fair to disclose personal information, and
disardly conduct, anything else you could charge her with. And
she's yelling, piggy, piggy, piggy. Where is she now?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Hayley Baker She she think she bonded out her parents
apologized to the court. I was told today, uh that
she wasn't raised that way. She's not from around here.
Uh but and I think she's a four hour drive
from here. But what they do is they get online
and they believe all this crazy stuff and then they
(09:17):
beg for their mommy to come bail them out when
they get arrested. They've come to the wrong place. If
they come here, City of Hamilton Police Department won't take
this stuff. You can't come here and block roads off.
You can protest. Yeah, yeah, it's not like California.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Can you throw some cement blocks and cops and maybe
commercial great fireworks. Can you do that? Peace can very peaceful,
very peaceful.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Look, you can do it, but it won't end well
for you.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It's peace You would have meant that's peaceful, isn't it?
Like maybe torts Butler County sheriff cars. That's peaceful.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's that's what the governor of California said, and the
mayor of Los Angeles protest. She was making that state
to the media. Police car was set on firm, blew up.
She said they were peaceful. Uh, and that's all a
bunch of crap. But listen, people don't want that stuff.
They don't want their stores looted and burned and the
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police cars and throw bricks at the police trying to
respond to help the other police. You do that and
you're going to go to jail California. Hey, they might
elect you to some high office if you do that stuff.
But not here, not here, we will not stand down.
And us and the Hamilton police and all the local
police Middletown, Farifield, Westchester, Listen, it's an orderly community to
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live and that's because we have good police, good corps,
good prosecutor. Mike Moser wouldn't put up with them all.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Have you notice you don't see Barnes and Nobles being looted.
They tend to be Nike stores. Is that Apple stores?
Let's go to Barnes and Nobles get that new book. No, no,
it's Nike, And I would point out, are you intimidated
by the Cincinnati socialist? They learned about the ice agent's
arrest of Emerson Calendras, a nineteen year old Honduran immigrant,
(11:05):
invited his family to speak at the June eighth protest.
What impact of these hundreds of gathering socialists have outside
the Butler County jail with the sheriff Richard K. Jones,
Are you worried about being intimidated by these individuals?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
A little fright No? No, No, I wasn't frightened. I
wasn't intimidated. And it takes a lot to do that. Yeah,
and to be upset. When I read the book when
old Yaller died, I teared up a little bit. So
other than that, it's pretty tough to get under my skin.
(11:44):
I've been doing this a while. But listen, Bill sometimes
what you got to do is you got to you
got to use force sometime when people loot throw bricks
at the police. When they were throwing the bricks at
those cars, those ice cars, the guy I had them
laying right there. Every car went by, he must have
threw at ten of them, knocking their windows out and
(12:06):
injured a couple of them and could have killed them.
He didn't care. He had his little helmet on. But
they arrested him because they offered a fifty thousand dollars reward.
His mother probably turned him in because he thought it
was funny. But I knew he wasn't going to But
sometimes the police, like in Los Angeles, you can't stand
there and let this happen. Sometimes you got to kill
(12:28):
a fly with a sledgehammer. You know why. You got
to do that with a sledgehammer to a fly. You
know why? Because that's for the effect of the other flies.
That's what that is. They didn't do anything, so these
sorry people, they didn't arrest them, They didn't make a stand.
So everybody does what they want to do, and that's
(12:50):
what they're doing, and they're going to continue to burn
New York or California it's gonna be that way all summer,
and there'll be other states joining in. No washing cee.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Lastly, I had a guest on earlier today. Patrick Herringer's
murder an Otr at the hands of Mordecai Black.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
He was uh, he was out. He was not quite
on parole, but he was in post release. He had
an ankle bracelet on Uh. He cut it off for
four months. The police here, other agencies did nothing to
find him. He's walking around Otr with a large butcher
knife in his hand, looking to do something. He knocks
(13:28):
on the door of Patrick Herringer and Otr and Uh
at four o'clock in the morning. Sadly the door was opened.
He went in, got one hell of a fight. This
this man, this forty six year old owner of a gym,
survived a rock. He survived Afghanistan. The army officer, he
(13:49):
was given all the decorations, basically the army could give
him come back home a U see graduate he's murdered
by Mordecai Black and now you can't find the city
leaders with a search warrant have to have pure of all.
No news conference today. There's a public safety committee meeting
going on, but the murderer of Patrick is not on
(14:10):
the docket. If in the city of Hamilton, the city
of Fairfield, there's orders out for someone who's a rapist,
a murderer, he's walking around town with a butcher knife,
would that work well in downtown Fairfield?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
No, nowhere in Butler County would it work well at all?
And we would find this person, they'd be arrested within
a few hours. It's not minutes. You can't let these
people go out. Now, the Cincinnati police, they're some of
the best police there is in the entire country. The
police department is and it's it's tough. They work. They
(14:46):
have leadership and their mayors and their city managers that
run back and control things. And how would you like
to be a policeman in Cincinnati? No? No, no, Hey,
who the hell would want to work there? But listen,
the police are the best, most trained there is. They're
second to none. They want to do stuff, but hey,
(15:10):
they're city council and their city manager, their sanctuary city.
They you get bonded out pretty easy. Yep. They're all
short staffed. Yep. I feel sorry for him. Great people
you know him.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And I know I know I talked to him, and
they say, look, twenty years ago, we didn't need speed
bumps on Madison Road. We had criminals that would have
to be in jail before they were bonded out on
high bonds. We had judges that would send people to jail.
There's three legs of the justice stool. One leg is
the police officer, the second leg is the prosecutor, and
(15:42):
the third leg is the judge. And if one of
those three legs not working, we got all hell breaking loose.
And many times in Hamilton County we have all three
legs not working. And public relations wise, it's great to
have a mayor that looks like he's off the pages
of GQ. But nonetheless he won't comment, he won't change
at all because it's not in their interest. Well, we
(16:02):
got to run, No, go ahead, please go ahead, share.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Hey, let's let's listen. Cincinnati is a different outfit. And
when you're a sanctuary city and you allow the stuff
to go on and uh, and your mayor is a
very pretty man. I agree with you, and listen. Uh,
so are you and I in our own way? Right?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And I don't know about that you.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Hey, I'm just I'm talking about feel good. No, no, no,
I'm talking about you, trying to make you feel good.
But listen, they've got a long summer ahead of them.
And this dude should have been locked up in jail,
should have been incarcerated. And now look, a good person
has died. And your mayor won't say a word, not
(16:44):
going to counsel, won't mention a word of it, don't. Hey,
they're out campaigning and doing other things, probably not even
in town.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Nothing will change until it has changed, and I'll look
forward to November for a change. But I'll hold my
breath and turn blue until that happens. But uh, thanks,
thanks again.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, they're going to have to bring back mayor Cranby, Cranley, Cranly,
Oh Cranley, I met Cranley. Sorry Cranley, Cramby, Crany, yes,
Cramby like Crandly.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Cranley A right, thank you, Sheriff. I got it, and
give my best to Amberson Calandris. Will you get my best?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Hey, you're the man, see your brother.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham Cranley Cranby, seven hundred
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