7-21-25 Bill Cunningham Show

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Billy cunning him the great America, welcome to this Monday
afternoon in the tri State, and may not ragin for
a couple hours, which is a good thing. But hot
weather's coming later this week. And I've invited Moe in
to talk about the Reds and the Bengals because right
now it appears both sports teams are at the crucible.
They're at the top. Are they going to slide down
one way or slide down the other? As Moe knows,
the Reds have played exactly one hundred baseball games. They

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have fifty at home, fifty on the road, sixty two remain.
There are are four games over five hundred and fifty
two and forty eight. They're in Washington tonight, tomorrow and
Wednesday and back home for an extended Homestand and the
Bengalley's right now Monday afternoon, have not yet signed Shamar Stewart,
and don't know about Trey Hendrickson, and we do know
about Desmond Ritter coming back to Cincinnati. Moeger, welcome again

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to the Bill Cunningham Show. So tell the American people
Monday afternoon, Moeger, what are the two or three reasons
to be optimistic about the Reds, And what are the
two of three reasons not to be optimistic about the Reds?
Considering this Factmo, they have a lot of games against
the Central Division opponents they don't do well. Milwaukee hasn't
lost the game since May. They swipt the Dodgers twice.

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You got the Cubs who can't lose. They never beat
the Cardinals or the Pirates. Other than that, they're in
good shape in the Central Division. So what are the
two or three reasons you're optimistic? Then what are the
two or three reasons you're pessimistic? Then when we go
to the Bengals, what are the two or three reasons
you're optimistic? What are the two of three reasons you're
not optimistic? Then we'll talk about other issues and including

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lager beer forty feet deep underground with bugs, mosquitoes and
flies everywhere. What do you think, once again, Moe, give
me the two or three reasons to be optimistic, keeping
in mind that Tito has a great record in the
second half of the season, but not in the first
half of the season. Give me a full report. There's
a question in there. Can you answer it?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
You know what I started doing this first of all,
it's nice to see you in person. Yeah, in person,
it's good to see you. I thought you were mad
at me or something. I haven't seen you in like Tony,
I had to be seen and viewed. I understand. When
I started doing this, they said when you interview people
one question at a time. So you have violated that.
But that's okay. You're far more accomplished broadcaster than I.
Let's talk about reasons to be optimistic about the rest.

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I'll start with this weekend in New York. This is
the thing that stood out to me more than anything else.
Matt McClain got on base six times. If you look
at the Reds in the first half of the season,
we went into the year going okay offensively, the Reds
at best are average. They need more production from the
top of the batting order. Their two whole production this
season has been among the league's worst. The guy who

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has filled that role most often this year, obviously, Matt McClain,
had had a disappointing first half. They've got to get
more out of him. It's great that he hit a
home run on Friday, more than anything on base six times.
That makes Elie Deller Cruise's job easier. That makes Austin
Hayes's job easier. So I start with that very encouraging
sign this weekend. Number two. The starting pitching is good

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and the starting pitching is good without a hundred Green
who maybe will pitch at some point this year, I
doubt it, but if they do get him back, that's
an all star caliber pitcher rejoining an already good rotation.
Andrew Abbott has been terrific all season long. Write even
though they didn't get the win yesterday. Nick Lodolo has
emerged as a very reliable middle of the rotation guy.
Randy Johnson. They have good starting pitching, and so I

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start with the most important thing this offense needs is
a guy in the two hole who is more productive.
Got good signs this weekend. The starting pitching is very good.
What about Akona? Could they trade for ronald'cuony Yes, that
would be awesome. Let's just see the throw he made
the other night. That was Dave Parker like, legitimately the
best throw I've ever seen, and Dave Parker is one

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of my heroes. Ronald Aconye would cost a lot, but
what do the Reds need? A right fielder right now,
they're trying Noelve Martin right field, who has not played
the outfield as a pro. The first six innings he
played in right field this weekend in New York are
the first six innings he's played in right field as
a professional. So you might say, well, take advantage of

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his arm. They can put espen All at third base.
They're doing it out of desperation because right field has
been an issue. Corner outfield production, especially when Austin Hayes
hasn't been healthy, has been an issue all year long.
So do you want Ronald Acunya? Of course, yes, get him.
Are you willing to pay? Yes? Are the Reds willing
to pay yet? No, that's the question.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Knda Laria. They spent forty five million. What they get
out of him?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Nothing? So here's the reason for pessimism. Would be that
I need one more optimistic. Okay, one more optimistic. They
have Elie de la Cruz and they have Terry Francona. Uh,
and you're right, Terry Francona's track record of the second
half of the season has been terrific. Okay. Reasons for
pessimism Number one, you mentioned the schedule toughest in the
sport in the second half going out of the All

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Star Break. If you added up every team's the winning
percentage of every team on their schedule, the Reds had
the most difficult Now, winning in New York two out
of three this weekend is not insignificant. The Mets are
pretty good, but you mentioned before this year against the Cubs,
they haven't been very good this year. Against the Brewers,
they haven't been very good. They have a losing record
against the Saint Louis Cardinals. They've got to be better
against teams in their own division. Plus, they have a

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series against the Dodgers. They have a series, two series
with the Dodgers, a series with the Toronto Blue Jays.
The schedule is really backloaded, not in their favor, so
you start there. Number two. They haven't gone through a
prolonged hitting slump that has torpedoed their season, right. Their
longest losing streak this year is four games, right, So

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for all of their offensive deficiencies, it hasn't sunk them.
But it's not a very high ceiling offensive team. If
Ellie goes into a batting slump, if they don't get
to production from the two spot they're looking for if
there's another injury somewhere. Christian and Carnassio Astraam was supposed
to be the first baseman hasn't worked out. He thinks

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they don't have a solution right now in right field.
They want to give more playing time to a guy
in Santiago Espadal, who is a below average major league hitter.
I think you're asking a lot of a handful of
guys in the batting order. What if there's a slump,
who can make up for it? So I worry about
over the finals sixty two games offensively, can they withstand

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a lull, which, as deficient as they may be, really
hasn't happened. So that kind of concerns me. I wonder
about I don't so much worry about the quality of
the arms they have in the bullpen. I wonder if
they have enough. Every team in the sport wants relieve help,
and so you could say, go get an arm at
the deadline. Everybody wants an arm at the deadline and
the bullpen. And if Hunter Green doesn't come back, or

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if he doesn't come back soon and there's slight regression
from Andrew Abbott, or there's another injury in the starting rotation.
Do say that, then what happens? But they're two and
a half out of the wildcard. They've gotten off to
a good start in the second half of the season.
I think all year long, they've played a handful of
games that kind of felt like, all right, they got

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to win this one or the season goes sideways. And
they've won almost every single time. They lost those first
two games to the Miami Marlins, and a lot of
people were ready to start throwing at them, and then
they came back in one six.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Talk about what happened with the Rocks.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
They lost that game on Friday, which was maddening, came
back and won the next two. They have found a way.
They haven't gotten swept in a series this year, which
if you don't get swept in a series, you're not
going to lose more than a couple in a row.
They've done a good job of that. Again, the most
encouraging thing this weekend Matt McClain got on base. If
that becomes a theme in the second half, this offense
has the capability to be better in the second half

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than it was in the first half. Do you have hope?
I do have hope.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
How many wins will the Reds have this year? You
will be held to account October the first.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well I said on opening day? I said to you
right before opening day, I thought the Reds were gonna
win eighty three games. Right now they're on a pace
to win eighty four. I still will stick to that.
I think the starting pitching is good enough to keep
them in it. The offense as currently constructed is not
good enough to get them over the hump. Now, what
do we all want to know July thirty? First, do
they make a trade nine games between now and then?

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So they look like buyers to me? Two and a
half out of the wildcard. But what happened two years ago?
Two years ago at the deadline, they were in first
place and they had a massive hole. It was the
starting pitching and Nick Crawl did nothing. Now is that
all on Nick Kroll? Is it a a reflection of
the market, is a reflection of ownership? We could talk
about all those things, but the last time the Reds

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were in it, they didn't do anything. And I think, unfortunately,
from a fan perception perspective, that looms over this year's deadline.
If two years ago you were in first place, right,
and your starting pitching was terrible and you did nothing.
Why am I to trust that you're gonna go get
something from the outside at the deadline this year.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
And the Reds spent sixty five million dollars on Martinez
in Candelaria, Candelaria, I think it's a yankee. Sixty five
million collectively, that's like real money.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, you know the Martinez thing. They get beat up,
but Nick Martinez has done a nice job here. It's
not acceptable. Acceptable if you look at the overall cost
of their starting rotation though cheap, it's very cheap. So
you're a little bit you trade, do I trade Hunter Green?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Toney Bender says, trade Hunter Green?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
That's absurd. That's what I said. They've got to get
Hunter Green healthy. Jeff Brantley talked about this on on
one of the broadcasts this weekend, Like, Hudder went healthy
is terrific, But we're getting tired of saying Hunter went healthy.
He hasn't gotten through a full big league season without
going on the injured list, and there seems to be
no real concrete idea of when he might be on a.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Big league young guy, he's like, what twenty six?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, but I mean like, this is big year number four,
This is you know, he was an All Star last
year and when he is on the mound, he's electric.
But he's just not on the mound all that much.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Let's move on here, Let's move on to the Bengals,
and you have a big show coming up.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
When is it moment? Tony and training Camp Show and
forget Starting Wednesday morning, ten am on ESPN fifteen thirty,
Tony Pike and I broadcasting from Bengals training.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Bringing desmon Ritter. Can he be a co host?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
That would be nice? Yeah, I love got.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Nothing news a thirsting quarterback.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Right Well, I mean he's gonna get reps in practice.
You know, Dez is a guy. He's the most accomplished
quarterback in UC history. It obviously didn't work out for
him in Atlanta as the starting quarterback, but if he
is your third option, you could do worse. Now, Let's
be honest. If anybody besides Joe Burrow is playing significant

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snaps for the Bengals, that's a problem. But from a
fan perspective, I root for des Ritter, and to me,
it'd be cool if he could hold down employment for
the Cincinnati Bengals. But let's be honest of all the
things that are happening right now with this team. The
acquisition of a third quarterback is not that?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Not that un WNBA All Star Game?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
A little bit of it? Yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Now let's talk about Shamar Stewart. What's happening with Hendrickson?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I need to know.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I want listen to the so called experts. I think
you know more about sports than they do. By the way,
know more about the Bengals. But they got Joe Burrow
once again, going nine to eight. Maybe make the playoffs
at ten.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
They're saying, what if he gets hurt, then there'll be
a total collapse. Who called it a TC and golf?
A total collapse? When when the wheels come off, yeah,
you're not moving much. First of all, before we get
into the particulars, this is mo over underwins for the Bengalleys.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I think they're going to go eleven and six. That's
what I said. I think eleven and six right here. So,
as bad as last year was awful, they went nine
to eight. Now got to apply some contacts down the stretch.
They were playing teams with bad quarterbacks. They feasted on them.
I will say what I said a year ago at
this time, and I was dead wrong on But I'll

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be right this year. Joe Burrow plays a full season,
the Bengals are not going to miss the postseason. Now
you might go, well, what if he gets hurt? Well,
what if Josh Allen gets hurt? What if Patrick Mahomes
gets hurt? What if Jalen Hurts gets hurt?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I mean you could apply that to a lot of teams.
I do think it's fair to wonder how much better
will the offensive line be this year. I'm actually a
little more bullish on that unit than others because I
think they have a very good young right tackle, equality
left tackle, and a center who's going to be better
because he doesn't have to clean up as many messes
because of the guard played to his left and to
his right. So I'll say there are two more wins

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better this year than last year. But what looms over
the entire summer Trey Hendrickson, Trey hendricks Samar Stewart, Shamar
Stewart and.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Mallins fencing, Joe Burrow stuff in New York City? What
do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Not a big fan of that, but the track record
is what happens Week one every year they lose? What
happens Week two every year they lose. You've got to
win your first two because weeks three through seven five
consecutive games against teams that made the postseason last year.
So they've reformatted training camp, they've made a bigger priority
playing guys in the preseason. Does that pay off Week

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one when they go to Cleveland, which two years ago
they went to and loss. So that, to me is
the question our.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Joe Burrow's record the first two games in IT one
and nine or one in eleven or something.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
So I think he has one win in the first
two weeks. It's not good, that's my point. That's not good. Look,
he's not coming off an injury. He's not right now,
knock on wood, dealing with an injury.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
He's got a stuff back from Guadalmala.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
He's got a stuff back from Guatemala. So if he
gets through training camp healthy, there's no reason to think
the Bengals shouldn't win their first two games, and if
they don't, then it's another season of trying to play
catch up. Why did the Bengals miss the postseason last
year because they started oh to three. Why do the
Bengals have to go on the road to Kansas City
in twenty twenty two because they started oh to two

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The slow starts catch up to him in some way,
shape or form. Two years ago, didn't make the postseason
when Joe Burrow got hurt because they went oh into
the first two games. So to me, can they get
through the Trey Hendrickson thing, however that unfolds, the Shamar
Stewart thing. However that unfolds You could say those things
are distractions. A coach in his sixth NFL season or

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seventh NFL season and a quarterback in his what this
is year six should figure out a way to navigate
the next few weeks.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Maybe you win a game or two in the first
two weeks. How about to take the.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Field against the Browns on September seventh and win that
football game.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
If they lose in Cleveland, which is h which is likely,
they're going to be a dog in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well then that tells me that that they have again
failed to use training camp to prepare to hit the
ground running week one, and it's going to tell me,
in all likelihood, the Bengals really haven't fixed their defense.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Can you name one starter for Xavier University in basketball.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
At the moment? Not many?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
No, how about UC? About Jizsel Gisel James is back
for year three? Is he going to fizzle jizzl or not?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
I hope he doesn't fizzle. He's Gigsel Skyline Chili Crosstown
shootouts at Xavier this year. That's bad for you, say,
you see hasn't won there since December eighth, two thousand
and one.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Last I'm a coach did not get to the playoffs
at all in his first four years to.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
The NCAA Tournament in n C double one, McK cronin
did not, and he succeeded. He did, right, So two
thousand and seven, eight, nine, ten, Mick didn't make it.
But and then twenty eleven, with a fair amount of
heat on him, he got hold. Did he get to
the tournament? He won a game in the NCAA Tournament.
So I have always a last year's UC basketball team

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to the twenty ten team where there were a lot
of expectations. That year they had Land Stevenson and they
didn't quite put the pieces together, and then the next
year they did. I think that's gonna happen for UC
basketball this year. But getting back to the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Let's go but there what w NBA All Star Game?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Paige Beckers is my favorite player. If you haven't watched
Paige Beckers play to your national champion all that stuff. Yes,
and took a picture with my daughter when they played
Xavier and she's skinny too, and.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
She is.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Something that's all well and good. I let's go off topic. Yeah,
the Bengals have to fix their defense and they really
haven't overhauled the personnel. So the question is, with a
lot of the same guys and with the Shamar Stewart
and Trey Hedgertsie being what they are, can l Golden
take what is basically last year's unit?

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Never coached the NFL?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Has he he's coaching the NFL? He hasn't been a
defensive court DC. Can he in the second all those
guys come back, all those players in the secondary, they
didn't add to it. Can he get more out of
those guys this year than lou A Romo could last year?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Who's the national champion in baseball in CAA?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Uh, it's lsu.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Who's the national champion in basketball?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Beat Houston this year?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Florida Florida, who's the national champion in football, Ohio State,
who won the twenty eighteen Ohio basketball title the Deer Park.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Very good, let's continue. I don't know if I got
the College World Series thing right.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I know, I'm not sure either. I watched it. They won,
they won two games.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Coastal Carolina. Coastal Carolina played. I want to say, I.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Think it's LSU. I think it's LSU. Paul Skeins didn't
pitch for him, did he?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
No? No, he pitches for the Pittsburgh Pirates, who would
probably lose a game head to head against LSU if
they they played. No quest, Yeah, LSU beat the Coastal
Paul Skins.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Was there with my old girlfriend Olivia Dunn.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Is that correct? Livy Dunn was I think there? Yeah, well, Mo,
thanks for your involvement in this. You know s C
Cincinnati got a big win too.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
With about Messi? What about I know, I know, I
know the Utah, but what about Messi?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Messi got a front row seat for a vander.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
And he left Evanda Hollafield and then Messi leaves and
doesn't shake hands.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, poor sport. You know that's what you expect now,
why Cincinnati's cooking right now?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Man?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
My wife says, I look like Ronaldo. Do you see
any symbolo? I see those similarities. I haven't been on
your show in like two months, so I haven't had
a chance to invite you to a Reds game this year.
Right field with us three two one night a week
from tomorrow. Let me think of three dollar beers.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Two dollars hot dogs, one dollar ice cream. Let me
think about it. Hey, and it's cashless, so you can't
you know, I only carry fifties and one hundreds, so maybe.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I got right there his fifties and eighty. We'll see
you out there on seven hundred WLW. Billy Cunningham hit
the music, Dave Keaton hit the music, back at it again.
We never stop, We simply continue unabated. Coming up later
will be Scott Powell about what's happening little below the surface.
And because the mainstream media doesn't report on these facts,

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because it's an inconvenient truth, I will, which is the
efforts of some and the Trump administration to play by
the same rules imposed upon them by Democrats. What a
novel suggestion, the idea that a president can be indicted?
Are you kidding me. That's never happened before until, of course,
Donald Trump took office and this thing metastasized, and the

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spring and summer of twenty sixteen hasn't stopped yet. Here
we are in July of twenty twenty five, and certainly
it all continues by Democrats in the media, and it's
not reported very simply. And the spring and summer, after
months of investigation of Hillary Clinton by the FBI, the
FBI determined she committed dozens of not hundreds of felonies

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by purposely destroying materials that were runner subpoena by the
House and also materials she had to keep secret because
of national security implications. Whence she took over her Secretary
of State under a Barack Hussein Obama. She wanted to
have a home brewed server in her Chapel Claw home
in New York and not go through government channels, which

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she did for four years. This wasn't one mistake by
Pete Hegseth on a signal chat that this went on
for four years with tens of thousands of highly secured
national security materials available to the communist Red Chinese, the Russians,
and others. Because Hillary Clinton refused to follow the rules,
and so when it became a parent in May and

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June that she should have been indicted for felonies, they
could not do that because she was the nominee of
the Democratic Party. So they had to come up with
some maneuvering to make sure that Hillary Clinton was not
indicted for the numerous crimes she committed and along with
many of others in her staff as a Secretary of State,

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because she lied repeatedly and destroyed necessary information and violated
national security laws and all kinds of things. And so
there were powwows held involving Eric Holder and Barack Hussein
Obama and others, Susan Rice, about how do we handle this? Obviously,
this is a public relations disaster. We got the nominee

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at twenty sixteen, right, Hillary Clinton obviously is going to
beat Donald Trump. But it's too late to substitute her out.
So what do we do? Well, you might recall the
James Comy. After pow wow with Eric Holder, the Attorney
General said, well, let I'll be the front guy on this.
I'll hold a big time news conference in the summer
of twenty sixteen, and I'll lay out a lot of
the crimes she committed, obviously, but and I'm going to

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state that she did commit numerous felonies, but no reasonable
prosecutor would prosecute Hillary Clinton, for God's sakes, for crimes.
And that was with the permission of Eric Holder, the
Attorney General, And so he just laid it out and
said that in the media within three or four days,
ignored it, put it on. Okay, that's great. Okay, let's
move on now to Donald Trump and the access Hollywood

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tape grabbing women by the private parts. Let's ain't the
focus of the country from the fact we have a
Democratic nominee who the FBI CIA determined committed dozens, if
not hundreds of felonies using bleach bit and hammers to
destroy cell phones and computers and laptops illegally under subpoena,

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and she shouldn't have done it. I'm going to say
she obviously committed Nubro's felonies. But then James Comber said, well,
you know, Comy actually said that, well, you know, no
reasonable prosecutor bring these charges against her in Washington, d C.
That reasonable prosecutor was Eric Colber, who was the wingman
for Obama. So let's give Hillary Clinton a free pass.

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It's too late to always say clean this mess up.
Can't get another nominee in the summer. In July of
twenty sixteen, the conventions in a couple of weeks and
away we go, and everyone knew you and I included that,
after all, Donald Trump was not going to win the
presidency anyway in twenty sixteen. He won't win, so that

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means we can cover this thing up even greater, commit
more felonies in the process. You know, the cover ups
always worse than the crime, but in this case, the
crimes of Hillary Clinton were as bad as the cover up.
So September October rolls around. They released the NBC releases
the Access Hollywood tape with Billy Bush. Everyone knows what's
going to happen, the big party planned and the Javis

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Convention Center, and I was there for that. Outside what
we're watching this display go on. My TV show was
in full production of that pont in New York City,
and everyone knew. The balloons are up there ready to go.
And obviously, when Hillary Clinton won the presidency, she was
going to hand out the goodies to Komi and Brennan

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and all the rest. It worked, we won. The presidents
guess what you said, No, not going to work. And
so then what happened. President Barak Hussein Obama December seventh
and eighth conven a big meeting in the White House.
Big deal, because after all, we got a new guy
coming in and I mean, I know what he's doingorally
never been elected anything before in his life, the only

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president in American history you might know, that had not
ever been a general nor a held political office. And
so we got to do something to pin him down
so that he didn't discover the sins and crimes we've
committed as a group, that being James Comy and John
Brennan and James Clapper, and Andrew McCabe and Sally Yates

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and many others. Loretta Lynch Attorney General at that point.
And so it was like, okay, what do we do. Well,
let's come up with a Russian collusion delusion. So Hillary
Clinton agreed to use some of her operatives and the
Clinton Foundation all over the world to put together some
made up emails about a collusion deal between Vlatimir Putin

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and Donald Trump. The Russian collusion delusion, which was percolating
quietly because the Clinton, East says know how to play
that game. So they said, you know what we'll do then,
is put out a story that there was Russian collusion,
delusion between Trump and putin between Russia and the United
States in order to make sure the twenty sixteen election

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was not valid. And previous to that, there were memos
going back and forth in which some of this was
percolating in the summer of twenty sixteen. And so at
that point James Clapper and John Brennan, a former communist
who is the Director of National Intelligence under Obama, those
two had issued memos back and forth to each other.
There's no evidence there's any collusion at all, and they

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knew that going into the December seventh or eighth meeting
of twenty sixteen, but Obama, being the head of the Snake,
said we had to come up with something. So that
they put out. They began to work to fill in
the files, make things up to make it look as
if Donald Trump's election was invalid. And so the first
thing they did after the inaugural was hire one of

(24:51):
their own through the Putts, who was the attorney general
for Donald Trump. His name is Robert Mueller. And let's
put Andrew. Let's put Wiseman. Andrew Wiseman, who's one of
the Clinton eastas, Let's put him as the chief deputy
to keep an eye on Muller. So he spent like
almost a year and a half. For two years, spent
forty million dollars, put all the Clinton lawyers working with

(25:12):
Wiseman and with Robert Mueller to come up with a
defined conclusion to justify all the invalidation of the twenty
sixteen election. Loew and behold under oath Robert Moeller, former
director of the FBI. So there was no connection. It
didn't happen. They made it up. But Obama, Comy Brennan,

(25:36):
Rice Yates, McCabe, Lynch of course knew that was true.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
They made it up in order to invalidate and to
pin down Donald Trump for the first two years or
more of his presidency. And that was in violation of
numerous criminal statutes. Numerous criminal statues were violated. It was
a seditious conspiracy to invalidate your vote in twenty sixteen.

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And so now, on Friday, three days ago, Telsey Gabbert,
the new Director of National Intelligence DNI, put together a
one hundred page summary of all the sins and crimes
committed by this cabal, continuing beginning in twenty fifteen and sixteen,
continuing through today. In fact, in twenty twenty, the same

(26:24):
group got together to get fifty one experts on intelligence
to say the Hunter Bider laptop was Russian disinformation. It
continued till then, and as part of that investigation, in
the summer of twenty twenty three, the private residence of
Donald Trump was raided under a false search warrant by

(26:44):
the FBI, notifying CNN ahead of time to keep it
going to make sure that Donald would not be re
elected to get back in power with a vengeance. So
here we sit, and she put out several missives over
the weekend. She gave a couple interviews at being Tulsi
Gabert about the true scope and the nature of this

(27:06):
illegal activity committed by beginning with Barack Obama, then many
others in order to invalidate, shall we say, the election
of Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, hopefully not to get
him elected in twenty twenty. Then you saw through all
the bs and you elected him. So the Department of
Justice confirmed today about two hours ago that need had

(27:27):
to received Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbert's criminal referral
related to the bombshell that Obama era officials manufactured and
politicized intelligence to create the narrative that Russia was attempting
to influence the twenty sixteen election. She released the unclassified
documents on Friday that show overwhelming evidence that then President

(27:49):
Barack Usain Obama and the entire national security team laid
the groundwork that would be years long Trump Russia collusion
probes after Trump's election wins shockingly in twenty sixteen and
then again in twenty twenty four and she said, quote
their goal was to use Sir President Trump and subvert
the will of the American people, no matter how powerful.

(28:11):
Every person involved in this conspiracy must be investigated and
prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. We're turning
over all these documents to DOJ for a criminal referral. Now,
since then, she relates that there have been many a
so called whistleblowers that have come forward to working in
national intelligence and said, yes, we were coerced and we

(28:33):
did change intelligence in order to help the politics of
the Democratic Party, and the implications he said are nothing
short history of historic to me as an American, and
of course, when you engage in criminal behavior, accuse the
other side of doing the same thing and maybe get

(28:54):
away with it. She said, This is an issue that
is so serious that it should be concerned every single
American goes. Has to do with the integrity of our
democratic republic. They did not want your vote to count
in twenty sixteen, or in twenty twenty, or certainly not
in twenty twenty four because they'd cooked up the intelligence
and lied about Russian collusion with Trump and they knew

(29:16):
the opposite was true in order to cover for the
sins and crimes committed by Obama and Clinton with her
home brewed server in Chapel Claw. That was essentially the
beginning of this was we have to have a cover
up of the cover up in order to tie down
Donald Trump and maybe the American people through national media

(29:36):
outlets like CBSNBC, ABC and NPR will only report what
we're saying and not the truth.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
So we'll see what happens now down the road.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's going to be a special prosecutor will be appointed
at some point to coordinate all this information, and much
of it's already in a bow ready to be delivered
to the Department of Justice. They can't prosecute it themselves,
they'll get special counsel involved headquarter ordered in Florida. Florida
has jurisdiction because part of the conspiracy resulted in Florida

(30:06):
being used as the situs of an illegal raid in
the Donald Trump's home at mar A Lago by the
FBI relying upon the same intelligence. So the statute of
limitations does not begin to run until the final act
of the conspiracy has been committed, and that act, of course,
was either the summer of twenty three or the election
of twenty twenty with a six year statue, which means

(30:28):
either way, the Hillary Clinton, Barack Husain Obama, James Clapper,
James Comey, John Brennan, the avowed communist haired by Obama,
along with Andrew McCabe and Sally Age and Loretta Lynch
had better lawyer up because they have irrefutable information that
they knew the truth was to the opposite, and they

(30:50):
used the power and prestige of their office to concoct
a political scheme to keep their opponents out of power,
that being you, me and the Republican Party unbelievable story.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
And the eighteen US Code twenty three eighty four seditious
conspiracy involves an agreement between two or more people to overthrow,
put down, or destroy the government of the United States
by force, or to oppose its authority, or to hinder
or delay the execution of any US law. It fits

(31:24):
perfectly of the treasonous misbehavior beginning with the head of
the snake, Barack Hussein Obama and others who carried out
this seditious conspiracy to invalidate the elections of twenty sixteen,
twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. And we'll see what happens,
and the truth will set us free. And I've seen

(31:46):
online some great memes. But also Barack Hussein Obama has
said repeatedly, no ones above the law, no ones above
the law, not even the president, does that apply to him.
Democrats would be aghast at the idea that Donald Trump's
Justice Department would indict a former president, which is exactly

(32:08):
exactly what Joe Biden did under the leadership of Obama,
exactly the same thing. And while one time when it
involved Donald Trump, the media acted and said Okay, we
finally got to the truth. But when Obama and these
others Hillary Clinton are indicted and charged formally with crimes
against the United States, the media will not say, oh,
we finally got the truth. They're going to say, well,

(32:31):
this is Donald Trump trying to obscure the involvement of
Jeffrey Epstein and that doodling of some twenty four years ago.
To me, it's all a farce and the truth will
set you free. Let's continue with more after one o'clock today,
we'll be Scott Powell about this issue. Will the deep
state win again? And we'll see what happens with this.

(32:51):
But I think Donald Trump this time understands what's at play,
which is the viability of a political party who's courage
depends upon its ability to prosecute criminals, high ranking criminals
of the opposite political party. The Democrats have no problem
doing this at all, zero zilch, nada. Can a former

(33:12):
president be indicted? Talk to Joe Biden about that. Now,
let's continue with more Reds. Baseball kicks off tonight. They're
going to be in Washington. I think game time is
about six fifty. We go to all the action about
five to forty five. That'sh home of the Reds and
the Bengals. By the way, I have an expert that
looked it up, and that's Zach Taylor in the six

(33:33):
seasons is Bengals head coach and the first two games
is one and eleven. Now that's not a trend. Those
are facts. No coach in the history of the National
Football League has ever gone one and eleven first two
games of his first six years in the league. Why
is that, Zach Taylor one and eleven? That's almost impossible.

(33:56):
Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham.
The Great American Coats were commemorating the six month anniversary
of the Greatest presidency. In the first six months, anytime, anywhere,
any place, we can go, going over to FO, go

(34:19):
over again. All the accomplishments in the first six months.
But there's there's thunder in the background. There's lightning strikes
a few miles away, goes Tulsea. Gabbert the d and I,
the Director of National Intelligence, has spent the last five
months putting together at DOSSI of her own about the
number of criminal acts committed by Barack Hussein Obama, James Comey,

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John Brennan, James Clapper, Susan Rice, and Sally Yates at all.
And to me, I know it's important because the media
has not covered at the past few days, likely not
to cover it. This should be a perfect sixty minute story,
a perfect story for sixty minutes. Tell the story of
how one political party illegally conspired with each other and

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government officials to ruin the presidency and the selection of
the electorate in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen that metastasized in
the summer rate on Trump's home at mar Lago. Jonah,
you and I now Scott Powell got a column out
under date of about four or five days ago. Americans
can never forget that liberty depends on justice. And once again,

(35:26):
Scott Powell, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. I love
this piece about equal justice under the law means not
only the courts should to adjudicate law without prejudice race,
gender status, but the rules must be enforced and adjudicated
with particular attention to those in powerful positions. Explain the
thesis of your column, which I think is beautiful.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Well, first of all, I remind everybody this is you know,
we're still in the aftermath of July fourth, and we
think of that as the great celebration of America as
the freest nation in the world.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
But I make the case that if.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
We don't have justice, we will not have freedom. And
we have seen our freedom eroded and it's tied directly
to the loss of justice. So restoration of justice is
absolutely critical, and you know, it can start really with
everyone needs to understand that history is important and that everything.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
Gets affected by the past.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
So when laws are not enforced and there's injustice, that
breeds more violation of law and more injustice. So for instance,
you know, we could trace back our problems happening now
to things that have happened years ago. I mean when

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we go back, let's say, you know, to take Hillary Clinton,
for instance, who refuse to comply with the State Department
protocol in refusing to conduct all business on secure government
communication network. She insisted that she had to have her
own private server in Chappaqua, which was a total violation

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of security. And when the controversy serviced after her State
Department term was over, many people were baffled. When in
July twenty sixteen, FBI Director Jim Comey would not prosecute
Hillary Clinton's felony law breaking, and he did so after
recounting that Clinton had destroyed evidence under subpoena that included

(37:32):
thirty one thousand emails by Bleach bidding her hard drive
and storage devices. Also noted was the destruction by hammer.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Can you picture it?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Just picture Hillary Clinton and her people hammering and destroying
thirteen cell phones and communication devices. But that's what happened.
So federal law, and it specifically eighteen USC Code fifteen nineteen,
prohibits the destruction or falsification of rect records with the
intent to obstruct justice, with penalties up to twenty years

(38:05):
in prison and substantial finds. Was there any fine for
Hillary Clinton?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Well, in fact, I can recall in July or August,
Comy held this big news conference in which he conceded
admitted that she willingly knowingly violated federal law. But after all,
I'm not going to prosecute her. No reasonable prosecutor whatever
bring an indictment against her. He wasn't the prosecutor. He
was the cop, the FBI, and he's just saying this

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woman committed hundreds of serious criminal statute violations. Each caring
up to twenty years in jail. But it's Hillary Clinton.
What the hell, I'm going to give her a free pass?
Kind of like Pete Hecseth went through a living hell
using the signal chat that had nothing to do even
close to what Hillary Clinton did. But the government, the media, comy,

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they all ignored.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
It, didn't they.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, isn't it interesting that this Jim Comy that you're
describing his action in July of twenty sixteen, less than
six months later, he is, you know, he's cooperating with
Obama conspiring to subvert you know, the presidency of Donald Trump,

(39:17):
who had just been elected in November. These people, you know,
these these people are criminals. Jim Comey, James Clapper, John Brennan,
and of course there are more. But I focused on
their their meeting in December and January, wherein they actually

(39:38):
plotted and extended coup d'eta against the duly elected president
of the United States. This is the highest kind of crime.
This has to be prosecuted or we're going to get
you know, or we're going to stay a banana republic.
I mean, you know, we look back over the last
four years and what do we see, we saw a

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president that was absentee that probably there was massive votes
fraud that got him in office, and then when he
was in office, he wasn't around to sign any a lot.
A lot of the of the bills and the executive
orders were all done by you know, by this auto
sign program, right.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Scott Powell. Let's talk about the meeting on December the eighth,
because by then the outcome of the election of twenty
sixteen was known.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It was a.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Shock to the political system, especially in Washington. They live
in that bubble that somehow Donald Trump won. And so
what happened is describe what happened at the December eighth,
twenty sixteen meeting headquartered in the White House, conducted the orchestrator.
The conductor was Barack Husain Obama, the sitting president, with

(40:47):
Comy and Brennan and Clapper and Susan Rice, Andrew McCay.
Sally h described what happened at that meeting.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Well, we could go back a day earlier to December seventh,
twenty sixteen, after the election, as you point out, and
there were talking points were prepared for.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
D and I.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
James Clapper, that's the Director of National Intelligence, stating, quote,
foreign adversaries did not use cyber attacks on election infrastructure
to alter.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
The US presidential election. That was acknowledged.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
On December ninth, President President Obama's White House gathered top
National Security councils, principles people you've already named, James Clapper,
John Brannan, Susan Rice, John carry Letter, Rinch, Andrew mccabon,
others to discuss Russia.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
So what they decided to do was, we're going to,
you know, we're.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Going to get Trump by tying Russia around his neck,
even though there was no evidence that, you know, that
the Russians really colluded or affected the election of twenty sixteen,
but they wanted to. They saw that as the avenue
that they could have a successful subversion and coup d'eta

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against Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
And so they proceeded, and we all know what happened.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
There was the Muller hearings that went on for what
almost two years years. There were two impeachments that were
unrelated to Russia. But still the whole campaign was to
destroy a president who was duly elected by the people.
This is the highest crime against Americans, highest crime against

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our constitution. The constitution provides for the people choosing their government.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
What a novel concept.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Common sense of the people is oftentimes better than the elites.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
So go back a little further. In this summer and
fall of twenty sixteen, the DNI the intelligence community found
no evidence. In fact, they stated in writing that the
Russians were not trying to influence the election, that the
so called Steele dossier was made up by Clintonistas in
order to counterbalance the behavior of Hillary Clinton was known

(43:01):
by these characters call me and Brennan, and Rice and
Andrew mccab et cetera. They knew that there was no
Russian collusion with Trump. It didn't occur. But they said,
what do we do now, because we might be in trouble.
He's going to come into the White House. Let's pin
him down. Let's get Robert Muller, one of our own.

(43:21):
Let's get him time down for the first year or two.
And that will subvert and thwart the will of some
seventy million Americans that wanted a new president, and this
small clique headed up by Barack Hussein Obama did not
want it to take place.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
That's right, And of course the first piece of flesh
they got one was none other than General Michael Flynn,
who they got, you know, probably about two weeks into
the administration of Donald Trump. They ran a campaign, you know,
a bait and switch, you know, questioning that they set up,

(44:00):
They set up Flynn, and then it was leaked.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
You know. Then it was suggested that Flynn would.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Be a liability and Trump should should get ready wonderful. Actually,
actually Flynn would have been the greatest asset that Trump
had because he knew where all the bodies were buried.
He was the you know, he had been the Director
of National Intelligence under Obama, and he you know, he

(44:28):
was very good. I mean in terms of the world
of intelligence, he was probably one of the very best.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
And so they did not let the will of the
American people be heard. And then this continues to metastasized
until October of twenty twenty. In twenty twenty, the same characters,
headed up by Obama and Rice and Brennan and Clapper
and call Me and others, put together a fraudulent active
measure to undermine the electoral outcome by saying the twenty

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twenty election, which Donald Trump, of course was involved, and
they had the fifty one former eligence officials on a
letter published all over the world that Trump was accused
of being a Russian asset and suggesting New York Post
to report on Hunter Biden's laptop had the hallmarks of
Russian disinformation. And the same characters got their other buddies

(45:15):
to try to change the outcome of the twenty twenty election,
which they successfully did.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
They absolutely did, and you know, polls were taken that
had that story not been blackballed, had the Hunter Biden
laptop story just been allowed, you know, to be reported
on and not discredited, that that would have made the difference.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
The election would have gone to Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
But well, I mean, compare this to the Epstein scandal.
Compare this to a birthday greeting from Trump to Epstein
a quarter of a century ago, that this is telling
the American electorate, our elections are fraudulent. We will decide
for you who's going to be the next president, and
if you decide the wrong way, we're going to ruin
they before he gets into office. Then time down the

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first two years, then continue it all the way through
to today about attacking him. Scott Powet, you couldn't make
this up. I can't imagine the column you've written could
be any better. You can never forget that liberty demands
on justice. And I also I see the Trumpsters released
a nice little video in which Obama and others are

(46:25):
talking about no one's above the law. In fact, there's
a nice clip of Barack Hussein Obama saying presidents are
not above the law. Well is Obama above the law?

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Well, he shouldn't be above the law. Well, but he
has been above the law.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
All these people that you've described have been above.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
The law for years.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
And it is time that we restore justice in high places.
It's time that people go to jail. Actually, because one
of our penalties for violating the law that deters would
be other you know, people that are tempted or inclined
to abuse their position and power to say, well, gee,

(47:06):
I don't want to go to jail. Maybe I shouldn't
do that. I mean, that is one of the key
roles of law enforcement is to deter other would be
criminals from carrying out their criminal behavior. And we haven't
done that for years, and so what have we had.
We've had more and more crime in high places. This
latest crime of creating a coup d'tat to subvert a president,

(47:31):
a duly elected president, is the worst crime ever committed,
perhaps in American history. And kudos go to Tulci Gabbert.
You know, a former Democrat who had the courage to
do this. I mean, it's wonderful to see that courage
and she needs to be We need to pray for

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her because they'll go after her now too.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Well.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
The director Telsea Gebett was on Friday evening on a
Fox show and she said there's striking findings from declassified
information claiming to showcase, showcase overwhelming evidence that an Obama
era cabal led the groundwork for what would be years
long Trump Russian collusion probe after the twenty sixteen elections,

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that the participants in the Holy Cabal knew were lies.
And now she's saying there's many whistleblowers fearing criminal indictments
on them. The so called underlings are coming forward to
testify before grand Jury's in the state of Florida, not Washington,
d C. Where Republicans are always convicted and Democrats are

(48:44):
always set free, but in the state, the free state
of Florida, that they're going to have a fair hearing
to determine beginning with Barack Hussein Obama and others, Hillary Clinton,
that had this spoken conspiracy to throw the will of
the American people, and it changed the outcome of elections illegally,
which is exactly what they're accusing Trump of having done.

(49:07):
They've already done it. Trump hasn't changed the outcome of election.
Whatever they accused Trump of doing. Hell, they've already done
as armor. But I'll see where it goes. But Scott Powered.
The next few weeks going to be interesting. I know
it's a big deal. The last three or four days
there's been no media coverage of the referral from D

(49:27):
and I to the Department of Justice, And essentially I
know it's a big story because all we're talking about
is Jeffrey Epstein and.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
The other thing.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
The other big story is the mental incompetence of Joe
Biden that they installed in office who was mentally incompetent
and couldn't be the president, so they had everyone around
him was conducting a presidency without the guy installed by
the intelligence community in the Washington Post in sixty minutes,
they tried their damnedness. They got Biden installed, and they

(49:59):
did their best to get it's Harris installed and it
didn't work this time.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
But look at the consequences of the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I mean, when we have this kind of fraudulent law breaking,
what's the result. The result is we had open borders,
twenty million immigrants came into our country. We have chaos
in our cities as a result, largely as a result
of this invasion. You know, our country was invaded by

(50:28):
illegal immigrants in huge numbers. It can be as it
might be as large as twenty million immigrants came in
under the Biden years. And Biden wasn't a legitimate president.
So we can see how all this is orchestrated to
destroy America. And it's time that American people really woke
up understood this. The actual people that would support this

(50:50):
is such a small minority. So let's, you know, let's
bring an end to all this corruption and let's get
back to the sense of the American people voting and
having their votes properly counted, and that the government that
the people put in place can legislate and conduct business,

(51:11):
you know, without interference.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Scott Powell, what a what a novel concept that the
people vote and those in power accept the outcome of
elections and then don't work in order to thwart the
will of the people by causing the indictments and the
trials of all the people around Donald Trump try to
and then they installed in office Joe Biden, and they
knew was mentally incompetent and did their best to get

(51:33):
Harris in the presidency. We have to run, Scott Powell.
All your stuff is out. I pick up all your
stuff at town hall dot com. And as Barack Hussein
Obama said famously, not even the president is above the law.
Well we'll see about the degree, all right, agree Scott Powell.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
You're a great American. Thank you very much. Thank you, Bill,
God bless you all. Let's continue to more.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I guess if Obama's indicted, what's going to be the bond?
And uh, you see above the law, Bill Cunningham on
seven hundred w l W.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Everybody should play by the same rules from main Street
to Wall Street to Washington.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
D C.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Hello, piet and I'm spoke. I'm broadcasting everybody should play
by the same rules from main Street to Wall Street
to Washington.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
D C.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
So you're saying segment of Barack who's saint Obama concocted
a scheme to steal the presidency from Donald Trump unsuccessfully,
then lie repeatedly about intelligence should not apply to Obama
as well as a Trump.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yes or no, I have no idea. You know what
I'm talking about? You, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
We have a state visitor here, Panatowski. Sek couldn't say
your name out of you?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I can too. You know what's what's his last name? Potowski?
Is that pretty good? That's pretty good? OK? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
You're in a state visitor? Play tennis? Thank goodness, Thank guy.
Every try to pronounce a female tennis name. Tell me
about Maller High School. You're the player of the year,
not just in football, but in baseball, Gatorade, Gatorade National
Player of the Year, whatever. Yeah, you're better than Barry
Larkin ever was at Maller High School?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Is that correct? I go that far?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
All right?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Now?

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Tell me in football? Good friend of mine, Wally Sweeney
and Charlie and Griffin good friends of mine. I played
golf with him all the time. Griffin hits the ball
like crazy. Tells me that last year's Maller team in
baseball was the best in a long time. How good
was Mauler High school last year in baseball, it.

Speaker 6 (53:34):
Was a special group of guys because I think I
think there was a lot of people on the bench
that were committed to go play in college, which is like.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
You couldn't make the starting line up, you're going to
go play for Alabama.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, you don't see it a lot.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
So it was a special group of guys, and uh,
there was like a team camaraderie just because we played
two years together with that same group. So it didn't
come out the way we wanted it, but it was like,
you're gonna see a lot of these guys on TV.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
For a while, and those are the ones sitting on
the bench, Like Segment sat on the bench most of
his time in high school. So there was a chance
for someone who couldn't crack their starting a line up
with Muller, that's gonna be playing for the Detroit Tigers.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
You could.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Yeah, there's a bunch of different scenarios that he could
go through. There's there's division one kids sitting on the bench.
So let's how you know you had a really good lineup,
and it's baseball.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Anything can happen.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
The Reds beat the Reds over the weekend beat up
on the Mets, and the Mets have the best home
record in baseball and it beat him twice. Not bad,
now in football. What happened in football football, it was.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
Just a combination of you know, good defensive scheme by
them and offense didn't really execute the way we wanted to.
And I think nine out of ten times we probably
beat them. And you know, they got us that day
and they played really good. We had to play a
D minus game and they had to play an A
plus game, and that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
And you know, they came out on top.

Speaker 6 (54:54):
And I guess all all I can do is put
my head down and look forward to this season.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
One of the worst things that happens, you told me
off the air, is after the championship loss, the microphones
are in your face. What do you really want to say?
Know your role? Shut your mouth. I want to leave,
but you can't do that.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Yeah, I think you have to hold a certain like
there's something that you want to push out there, and
you want to look a certain way, so you so
you act a certain way. But at the same time,
you're you're hurting inside and all you want to do
is is kind of go home and be by yourself
and not really talk to anybody. But it's part of it,
and it's how sports are. You have to go do

(55:33):
media after and you know it's good or bad. When
you have a really good game, all you want to
do is go see the media to to talk about
you know, you and your team and how you did.
And it's it's the same thing when you lose, you
have to you know, still be it, still still respect
the game, and still respect the people that came and watched,
and you know they want to hear what you have
to say, so you have to do it.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
No one in sports has ever won the player of
the year in football and baseball. That's unprecedented. If you
thought about basketball at all, maybe taking up field hockey,
maybe tennis or golf. Can you be the player of
the year in all sports?

Speaker 6 (56:04):
If the USA pickleball team needs an extra guy like,
wait a minute, I'm in on the pickle ball really competitive,
really really gotten good at it.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
So now we're talking.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Now, Now, Matt Ponatowski, we're now talking because about five
years ago, have you ever heard of a guy named
Rocky Boyman? It sounds familiar, Never heard of him though, right,
not really he went to st X.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
You don't you don't suit the bowl camp, So I don't.
I don't like him. Then if he went to st.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
X bingo right there, segment's playing pickleball? Does it look
like a pick a ball athlete to you?

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Anybody can play pickleball?

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Right, obviously, So he got a hold with flat Stanley.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
I saw Stanley over the weekend. Willie ninety six and
rocking and rolling says he wants maybe one more match with.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
You, ninety year old Stanley and seg Man took me
and Rocky Boyman to the cleaner, brushed him and pickleball.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Oh was a pathetic in.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Fact, that nine one one call.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
It was like you playing deer Park? Have you ever
heard of deer Park?

Speaker 4 (57:04):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I guess it's close to here. What did you apply to? Wait?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Did you apply and get turned down to Deer Park
High School?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Is at it?

Speaker 4 (57:14):
No?

Speaker 5 (57:14):
I was?

Speaker 6 (57:15):
I was muller all the way. Didn't didn't sign up
to go to deer Park. Changing the subject.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
But we had a matchup and nine to one one
was called because there was an assault and battery committee
mashed And then I'm looking for a pickleball partner to
go after you and flat Stanley who's ninety six years old.
And I don't play pickle ball, but I played rocketball
most of my life. It's about the same thing, I thought,
but it isn't. Oh, if I get the invite, I'm
ready to go. Segment. I'll tell you what. I got

(57:41):
a partner. Now the hell with Rocky Boyman. I audition
your dish a rock I went that kid right there,
football and base.

Speaker 8 (57:51):
If we did not recognize the fact that there was
a major pickle ball battle that took place in Middletown today, major,
I mean major. You On one side was Bill Seg
Dennison along with mister pickleball of Middletown, eighty four year
old Stanleyvulkens, and their competition, two guys who fashioned themselves

(58:16):
as athletes, Bill the Mouth Cunningham, Bill What the former
Notre Dame star and NFL star Rocky Boyman ex of
Saint X High School. And they had a butt whipping
applied to them by the duo of Dennison and Vulcans,
the likes of which they will not soon forget.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Here's the two to zero pitch's foul off Cunningham Law phone.

Speaker 8 (58:43):
They sent them back to Cincinnati like a couple of
whimpering ninnies and all hail Seg Dennison and Stanley Vulcans
two to one pitch shooting.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
That's ball three.

Speaker 8 (59:03):
Humiliating would not be a strong enough word to describe
how bad a whipping they put on those boys.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Is that when you run out of the parking lot,
just get the car. It certainly is goodbye.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Well matter obviously, I'm looking for a partner because Rocky
Boyman camp I was the star of the team. Now
I don't play pick a ball. Well, you're dumping a
super Bowl champion. Yes, I want that kid right there. Wow,
because Rocky Boyman get in the second set. I think
we lost the first or like eleven to two.

Speaker 7 (59:33):
But the whole thing was you were humiliated and just
beaten down.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Do you know what Now you're gonna play? I mean
your baseball and football and maybe golf. I got a matchup.
You're gonna be my partner against two other guys. We're
gonna kick their ass up around their ear lobes. But yes,
can you play? What's your handicap? Oh?

Speaker 6 (59:52):
I'm not that good. I can make some good shots.
I'm not like a serious like keep my score. I
didn't know I was unfamiliar with your I didn't know
it was Well.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
They call him Scottie over at Kenwood Country Club. I
have my Scheffler shot in my tiger Woods one iron.
Then I drilled down the middle of two fifty. But nonetheless,
let's talk about pickleball is a chance. Now, talk about
recruitment in college. Everybody recruited you. Alabama roll Tiede, Nick
Saban might have called you even you have though he's

(01:00:23):
not the coach he called you. And of course Oregon
the Ducks. You didn't want to be at Darkansas Andrew
Bennette all one?

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Why did you decide to go to Kentucky and not
the other schools that wanted you so badly?

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:00:34):
I think it came down to the people for me
and uh, where I was gonna go and three or
four years later become a better person.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Uh you don't want to do that? Wait, kid, this
doesn't sound right at all. With the money and the chicks.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
That comes with it? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
I think I think the SEC program or a Big
ten program you're gonna get.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
It's gonna be all.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
You know, high level, and it's it's high level pretty
much everywhere you go when you get to that level.
But uh, it's what separates it, and what separated it from.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Me was the people.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
And uh just want to be looked at as not
just an athlete, but a good human being. So yeah,
I think the athlete part of it's going to be great.
And I'll give you some advice in life, they'll get
it right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Let's say someone says to Matt Ponitowski, you need to
get to Augusta, Maine. You know where main is. It's
way up there. But you can't ask directions, you can't
take Google Maps, you have no communication device. Begin your
trip out of Cincinnati mull Or High School and get
to Augusta, Maine. Just run into it. What are the
odds you're running into Augusta, Maine?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Not great?

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
What if you have a plan to go to Augusta, Maine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
What if you're there?

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Fuel it up. You got the Google Maps, you got
your phone talking to you, Take it left, take it right.
You're gonna end up in Augusta, Maine. So have a
goal in life. Sometimes it is diverted one way, or
you can snap an ankle or something hit you in
the head with a truth. Crap happens in life all
the time. But if you begin life with a plan
how to get somewhere, the odds of you making there

(01:02:10):
are much greater than having no plan.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Secondly, I sit here every afternoon for the last forty
three years before you were born. Correct, Oh, yeah, before
your father was born. And I've listened to all the
excuses for failure in life. The excuses are manifold. If
you do three things in life, you're ready for this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Graduate from high school. Can you do that easy? Can
you work or go to school easy? Three? Not commit
crime easier? And number four, don't have kids and babies
till you get married. If you do those four things,
you don't need a government program. You don't need hip
hop classes, you don't need Sunday night basketball, you don't

(01:02:50):
need finger painting, you don't need rec centers. You need
to those four things, you'll be successful. Can you smell
when I'm cooking?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Oh, I'm smelling it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Years from now. If I would have you on and
I'm in my fifty third year in broadcasting, what will
Matt Ponatowski be doing ten years from now, I'll be
the next of the on sanders seg Man. Give me
some sports and make it fast.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Will he?

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
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Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Spar Are you fast? Can you run a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I'm like Dion was fast.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
He'd be in the bedroom, turn off the lights and
be in bed before it was dark. How fast is that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Almost as fast as me? Please continue?

Speaker 7 (01:03:45):
Bengals update Willy brought to you by good Spirits at
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camp Luncheon today Willy Downtown for the Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
What did Mike Brown say?

Speaker 7 (01:03:59):
He did say that looks like they're working to get
a deal done for Trey Hendrickson Shamar Stewart. Maybe a
different story apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Oh. I think it's interesting and I like to see
what the NFL does with that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
The National Football League, says Ian Rappaport says that the
Bengals have sent at least one fresh offer to Hendrickson
over the past few days. What about Shamar Stewart the
defense of end, Well, it's another story. Like I said,
they're all excited about their signing of a Barrick, former
Bearcat quarterback, an NFL quarterback, Desmond Ritter.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
He could play quarterback right now for the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Correct. Oh, of course, I mean if they hit me up.
Please continue. Let's see.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
It looks like Dax Hill is going to be okay
for the start of training camp. So is bj Hill
good to go? Tom Bolden, formerly a cole Rain, now
the king head football coach out at Lakota West, receiving
Paul Brown Coach of the Year award.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
You don't feel good about Lakatta Western baseball, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
We'll see him next year? Please continue.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
Let's see, will ye after taking two or three against
those Mets at City Field, the Reds are now into
in Washington, d C. To take on the Nationals. Brady
Singer up against Jake the Snake, Irwin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Could you play shortstop now for the Reds and put
Dela Cruz in center?

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
I don't know. About that one.

Speaker 7 (01:05:25):
Coverage begins a five for five Sports Talk RNL carriers
Inside Pitch and then Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning Show after
the game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
It's gonna be a Kenwood Country Club Me and you
against Griffin and Wally Sweeney.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Are you in on?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Please continue.

Speaker 7 (01:05:42):
Let's see wille Soccer FC Cincinnati back atop the Eastern
Conference with that one nil win at Salt Lake on Saturday.
The orange of Blue is also a top the standings
for the supporter Shield.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Oh, hopefully we get that back.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
But next up for FCC is Saturday night at Miami
CF and a return match v Messi Matt Ponatoska.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
If you thought about playing soccer, maybe going to FCC
the Reds and the Bengals all simultaneously, now would that
be something?

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
It would But my soccer days are over. Please continue.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
Scotty Scheffler wins the Open Championship Willie at seventeen under
par by four shots over Harris English. Second major of
the year. He's got three legs now of the career
Grand Slam. Howout he cannot be stopped. Can you play
golf as well as Scotti Scheffler? I wish please continue?
Big ten let's see the USA Today Big ten Football

(01:06:39):
poll is out. Pay attention, Matt, penn State number one
to win at all over, Ohio state, Ohio state two, outrageous,
Oregon three, Michigan four, or I mean that team up north.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Did you get a good education? Mauler?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Oh great?

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
What's the score? Root of eighty one nine?

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
Please continue you and let's see Michigan, Illinois, and Indiana
are five and six.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
What's the capital of the state of Pennsylvania Harrisburg? Correct?
Very good, not bad? Pretty good education. He doesn't know
what deer Park is though, Say he asked me, where's
deer Park? I said, you gotta be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Not great with geography, obviously.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
All right, Matt, thanks for coming in. Why were you here,
by the way, why are you here?

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
I was with John John and friends on his little
on the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Now you're in the major leagues. Oh, of course that's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Screw it up, Matt. We'll talk later. I gotta get
I'm gonna get to Griffin. We're gonna play you me
and you being my partner in pickleball or golf?

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Correct? Both?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
God bless America. Segment give me out of the student's report.
Please Willie and honor of the Moeler Crusaders, said the
two times two times Gatorade Football and Baseball player of
the Year. I'm gonna repeat it this year too, his
senior year and kick Cole Raine's ass around their ear lobes.

Speaker 7 (01:08:01):
We leave you with the immortal words of the Steward Report.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
What's your contribution going to be? What problems are you
going to solve? What crimes you commit? What discoveries will
you make? None? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Let's not get political. Met Congratulations on a life well led.
You're great in sports and that would be great in life.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Thank you. I really appreciate it. God bless America.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Coming up next to from the House of Representatives, Adam
Bird Bird is the word about the voting Columbus all
the news radio seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Let's continue now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
About two or three weeks ago, the governor vetoed some
of the measures of public education here in the state
of Ohio. And I think one of the vetos was
over turned the others. Not a man with his finger
on the pulse of what's happening in New Richmond, the
home of the Lions, and also Columbus is state Representative
Adam and Noam Bird. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.

(01:09:03):
As we sit here at two twelve pm Eastern time.
What happened this morning? If anything?

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Thank you, Bill. I am still in Columbus. We met
at eleven am a special session called by the Speaker
to consider a couple of property tax issues. You described
them just a second ago at school funding issues. I
think they're more properly described as as property taxes. And
as you know, Bill, the property tax payer all over
Ohio is crying out for help. And that's what this

(01:09:31):
was about today, was to bring some property tax really
to town homeowners.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
And what happened goes media reporting, is that one of
the three was overturned, the emergency levees. The other two
not what was overturned.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
There you go. So the one that was overturned was
the part about no new replacement property taxes, no new
emergency levees, no new substitute levees. And if you're going
to put in an expense levee on the ballot, you
cannot have carryover balance and access of one hundred percent
of your expenses. So this is a you know, an effort.

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There's so many different property tax levees asks that are
out there that that schools and townships and villages and
so forth can ask for. And we're limiting the number
of types of property taxes that you can ask for
in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
So if someone claims we have an emergency levee, the
the eers emergency levees are out.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
That's right, emergency. You cannot use an emergency levey anymore.
You can't use a substitute levee anymore, you can't use
a replacement levy. Now I would preface also that will
it by reminding you that that has to go through
both chambers, and since the budget bill always originates in
the House, the House has to go first. We've overturned
that today and so now the Senate will get together

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in the next couple of weeks and consider the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I would thank you and the House are not going
to involve yourself in some furtive act. You would have
to have an understanding that the Senate's going to follow
the lead of the House.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
I think so yeah. And you know, everybody knows who
their state senators are in southwestern Ohio, and I do
believe they'll be considering it I think though, will side on.
They will come down on the side of property tax
payers and will decide to override the governor's veto. And
you know, people crying out on this issue. There's more
left to do, Willie. There is way more to do

(01:11:28):
on property taxes, and we got to get to that
and have some substantial conversations about property taxes. But for today,
we have taken the first small bite of the apple.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Well, the other thing is the Columbus Dispatch is reporting
that the House that means you punted overriding videos in
two other proposals that would allow county budget commissions to
lower voter approve levies and secondly, change the formula known
as the twenty mil floor, which guarantees a certain amount
of moneys for districts. Did you punt on those other

(01:11:59):
two issues?

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
We did, Willie, and so they're still on the table.
We're still going to consider them in the future. But
and you accurately described both of those vetos. One would
give the County Budget Commission the authority to reduce unnecessary
excessive property tax collection, and then the other one was
changing the twenty millli floor calculation. We're still going to

(01:12:21):
consider that but we wanted to get moving on this,
and we could only get sixty two House Republicans in
Columbus today. Three of them were unable to be there,
and then we had a couple of no votes. So
we have to be careful about making sure that we
can get sixty votes in the seats ready to vote.

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And it takes a three fifth vote to overcome a
governor veto, and that means we've got to have sixty
out of ninety nine House members.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
I would assume therefore the other two did not come
up because of the Speaker, Matt Huffman, who may come
on with me tomorrow, didn't have the votes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Is that fair to say?

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
I think it's fair to say. Or we want to
have abundance of caution. We'll make sure that we've got
them later on when we can get a couple of
more House Republicans in Columbus, and we just an abundance
of caution. We knew we could get the one. We'll
come back and get the other ones later perhaps, But
you know, right, like I said, there's that threshold of

(01:13:21):
sixty out of ninety nine that have to vote for this,
and there were several three Republicans that couldn't make it
to Columbus today, and we'll get the other ones hopefully
picked up later on. I wouldn't say that they're off
the table, but punting them and dealing with them later.
And by the way, well, I remember the governor had
sixty seven line eight in vetos. We only doubt we're

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only talking about three of them today. There's a lot
more of them that House Republicans would like to override
his veto on. So we've got a lot of work
to cope, and the constitution allows us to do that
for the next year and a half. Anytime during the
General Assembly, we can override the governor's veto.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Did you pick this one in leadership because you knew
you had the votes?

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
And this does not.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
But on the other hand, Adam Bird of New Richmond,
this doesn't reduce property taxes presently, but it may reduce
it in the future. But by overriding this particular veto,
it doesn't change present property taxes at all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Is that is that accurate?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
You got it though. It's not a big step, but
it is a first step, and it's a first small
buy at the apple, and there's more less to do.
It does not reduce your property taxes yet, but it
will change and perhaps keep them from increasing in the future.
It doesn't mean that a political subdivision like a village, township, school, whatever,

(01:14:43):
they can't ask for new moneys in the future, but
we're limiting the types of levees that they can ask
for and makes we want to be transparent. That's what
this is about, transparency with voters. And you know we
can come pick up these other line Night and Vito's
later in in the General Assembly and maybe as early
as this coming fall.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
Why not do them all together in September. You're not
going to meet again, I guess until after Labor Day one,
not wait and do all three together.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Well, I think the plan on that, Lily is because
a build does not become law until ninety days after
it has the required signatures on it. And so you know,
if we get this done, we've got it done today.
If the Senate comes back and gets this done at
the end of July or beginning of August, that the
ninety day window would start August, September, October, and then

(01:15:33):
that would give you November and December to make sure
that it was in place for the January twenty six
fiscal year. So that's that's why we come back and
do those now, and hopefully we'll get some more property
tax issues in the future. It's pretty important. And you
know there's another there's several house builds that we're considering
that would really limit property tax growth. One of them

(01:15:55):
is House Bill one to eighty six, which would limit
property tax increases to the rate of an and I
think property tax payers would greatly appreciate that, especially in Willie.
You and I talked before about the abolition of property
tax movement that's coming in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
If that happens, all hell breaks loose. So the goal
I think, if Matt Huffman and others the governor included,
is to try to slow down the momentum for the
six hundred thousand signatures, because if that thing gets on
the ballot, I guess it won't be on this November.
Maybe in May or November of next year, all hell's
going to break loose because the voters of Ohio will

(01:16:29):
vote to eliminate the property tax. In which case you
got a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
Well, I think your reading of the situation is dead
on Willy. It didn't get the requisite signatures, didn't make
it for the November twenty five ballot, but they've got
another three hundred and sixty five days to collect signatures.
There may be a wealthy benefactor at some point that
chips in and tries to help with the signature collection
to try to get it on the ballot in November
twenty six. And my reading of that will is similar

(01:17:01):
to yours that if that gets on the ballot, that
there will be a lot of taxpayers that say, yes,
I want to eliminate my property taxes. And when that happened,
we're going to have to find a way to transition
some of these services to another form of tax if
if I don't know that the state of Ohio would
pick up that bill, but we would allow local entities
to increase their income tax or increase their sales tax

(01:17:23):
to cover that difference.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
And that would be difficult. I've spoken to some township
officials who currently don't have the power to enact an
income tax, and one of the glories of living in
a township, as you may know, is there's no township
income tax. One of the reasons I moved to a
township is because I wouldn't have to pay two percent
income tax. The idea of residents in a township voting

(01:17:48):
for the first time ever in Ohio to have an
income tax would be an into fodder. That would be
a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
Well you know, okay, so yeah, people don't don't like
income taxes, but they don't like property taxes either, Bill,
and so you know, there's got to be a transition
because there are some necessary services that your county provides,
that your township provides, what's your villages to provide and
inner cities, and so it would if left up to
the local entity, the local voter can decide if they

(01:18:19):
want those services or to what extent they want those services,
how much are they willing to provide because most people,
especially I would say in a place by Campbelton County,
they're paying I don't know, maybe close to ten thousand
dollars a year on their property taxes more and you know,
or more. Yeah, So you know, it's transitioning, Ohio. If

(01:18:41):
that's what's required, if that's what the voters demand come
November of twenty six, then we've got to find a
way to transition from a property tax to something else.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Well, the Farris tax is a sales tax. It's paid
for by Kentuckians and Hoosiers as well as buck guys.
We get the benefit of them using Hamilton Counties roads
and bridges. They the sales tax plus. As an American,
you decide whether to pay it or not. I decide
it may be a difficulty to buy a car that

(01:19:09):
you can get one in Covington as well as in Cincinnati.
Of course you have to register it here. Maybe people
become more residents of other states. But I would decide
whether to pay a sales tax based upon my volition
to buy an item. When it comes to income taxes
or real estate taxes, I really don't have control over
that because I have to live somewhere. And as far

(01:19:31):
as income taxes, I'm very fortunate to have a nice income,
but I pay tax on that. I don't mind paying taxes,
which are rents paid to live in the greatest country
in the world. That's fine with me. In fact, when
it comes to the property tax, I'm very likely to
vote no. I do not want to get rid of
the property tax, because it is a tax. What we

(01:19:53):
need is reform of the property tax, not the elimination,
because it would mean the only way to get money
then would be income taxes or grossly increased sales taxes.
Either you or maybe Matt Huffman told me that if
you had to have a sales tax to take the
place of the property tax, it'd be twenty percent.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be that
much or not. It would depend upon that local government
how much they're spending, and it would depend on how
much the local board, whether it's commissioner, city council, whatever,
would decide to put on the ballot. But yeah, I mean,
the sales tax is another stool legg in the stool,

(01:20:32):
and other states are doing a lot more sales tax
than Ohio is. And so it would be up to
the taxpayer to decide if they want to abolish property
taxes in November twenty six and it makes it, and
then how to replace that would be up to the
local governing And but.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
It'd be difficult to pass in a township income taxes.
That would be impossible. That would be a fool's Errand
and so I would hope that the property taxes actually
on the ballot, numerous organizations would come together and say
this is the impact of your vote. All of us
want to pay as low taxes as possible, but damn it.
We need schools, we need police, we need fire, we

(01:21:12):
need road repair, we need the basics of government. In Ohio,
it's handled at a low cost compared to other states.
And I just hope that the voters understand if you
eliminate property taxes, the schools need a new funding mechanism.
And I can't imagine the city of Maderra, for example,
which I think is a one or one and a
half percent income tax, to go to a four percent

(01:21:35):
income tax, or to go to a county wide twenty
percent eighteen percent sales tax would be confiscatory. But I
will see what happens down the road. You're predicting you're
going to vote again on these other two proposals to
limit it, and then we'll see what happens. You know,
Adam Bird of New Richmond. I always say we get
the government we deserve, and at times that concerns me greatly.

(01:21:57):
But Adam Bird, good luck to you. We'll see what
happens down the Thanks for reporting this to the American people.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Absolutely, Bil, It's an honor to be with you again
and again. We're what we did today trying to protect
the rights and the values of property tax payers who
we are hearing from, and great numbers, and yes, you
make some great points. So we've got to make sure
that we're funding government of all kinds. We want to
have the services that we have and finding the fairest

(01:22:26):
way to pay for those with all of the different
people that would be benefited by that's where we've got
to go. We've got a lot of work to do
on this issue.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Stay wrap, Adam Bird, thanks for coming on this afternoon.
God bless you, and God bless America.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Thank you, Thank you, Bill God. I'll just continue with more.
There you, Gavin.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
You know, it's one thing to live in the city
of Madeira and to pay large, high property taxes for
schools that are functional, sometimes in the top five in
the state of Ohio. Madera's schools. All right, you pay
a lot of money and you get a lot of result.
To live in the city of Cincinnati and pay higher
real estate taxes than in the city of Madeira and

(01:23:05):
not be able to send your kids to the schools
that you pay for because they're so bad, that's another issue.
Let's continue with more. We never stop. We simply continue.
The river keeps on rolling on news radio seven hundred.
Ww these folks want a fight. It's a fight I'm
ready to have.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
Hello, Bis, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Well saying now that Buddy Obama may be indicted. We
don't indict former presidents, do we? What's he gonna what's
he gonna be indicted for?

Speaker 8 (01:23:44):
The vision for change comes from first and foremost, it
comes from me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
That's my job.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
According to Tulk, be indicted because he's himself. We don't
indict former presidents, do we?

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Nixon he went and done it.

Speaker 8 (01:24:01):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
How about Trump?

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:24:04):
How about he gets a dieted every week for every day. Now,
what a deal?

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
He organize a conspiracy to violate the laws of this country.

Speaker 7 (01:24:13):
And I'm with the President of the United States to
bring back the Washington Redskins, bring back the Cleveland Indians.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Take that. Wild Man?

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Yeah, wow Man, Yeah yeah, get get tape. What do
you what are your real feelings? Wild Man is gonna
be here in a few days to confront you. I'm
gonna be sick. I feel I feel like something. I
feel like the Hong Kong flu is gonna get me
coming in sometime next week. So get I'm not going
to tell you the day. I know, I know you won't.

(01:24:42):
He's your arch nemesis. I'm not gonna tell him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
I think I'm gonna take a vacation day that day.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
But Mayor Donald's gonna come here with a great proclamation
about me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
That's what. Who else? It's not going to proclamate against me?
Is he?

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Right there, go ahead, Purple Pooh lay again? Yes, have
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(01:25:56):
and one beer? Even my wife had an old fashion
that Bengals held their annual pre training camp luncheon today.
Tell me about Mike Brown, mister excitement.

Speaker 7 (01:26:05):
And let's see two days away from camp starts on
Wednesday at ten am.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Don't be late, Dave, gimmy, give me a cut from
Mike Brown and you can tell segment the excitement and
his voice for the coming season. Bengals haven't made at
least one fresh contract offer to Terrey Hendrickson. Nothing new
to the communications you have.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
You can talk to people anytime anywhere. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Why does any talk to Stewart? Well, they are talking
the language. It's the language. What's the anger?

Speaker 7 (01:26:40):
The agent that wants the language in the Bengals say no,
so what happens?

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Agent says yes. Bengals say no, that's normal.

Speaker 7 (01:26:50):
I don't know what happens I don't know what practice
start Wednesday, Wednesday at ten am.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
He better be there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
In the first two games of the season, going back
six uh huh uh, the coach Zach Taylor has a
record of one and eleven in those twelve games.

Speaker 7 (01:27:07):
Well, I think one, you're going to see a lot
more regular players playing in the preseason.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
No, get hurt.

Speaker 7 (01:27:12):
That's including number nine. They'll be hurt. And then I
think they they they got to get off to a
good start. Really they go off at zero and three,
it's it's uh, one and eleven. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
That's a that's the worst record in the history of
the NFL.

Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
And you got the best quarterback and the two best
wide receivers in the whole league.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Go one and eleven segment. You may not know, but
that's not good.

Speaker 7 (01:27:36):
Also, Willy Tom Bolden Lakota West named today as the
Paul Brown Coach of the Year. Between Lakota West and
Moeller who won in football, Uh, Lakota West beat Moller
right and I won in baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
To todayball, I think Mason beat him in baseball. Lakota West,
they have the better team, goes to Matt Ponatowski, but
they lose goes in those sports, doesn't certainly mean the
best team doesn't always win in life.

Speaker 7 (01:28:02):
Segment correct, you ought to know that Red's update Brady
Singer against Jake Irwin Tonight is the Reds kick off
a three game series in Washington. It was a shot
maybe the uh, maybe the President will be there tonight
with the Reds and Gnats.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
If they were called the Nationals and or the Redskins,
he would be there.

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Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
After the game. You're like a NASCAR driver.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
That's the way it goes. Let's see what else is
going on. That's about it, tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Segment's Trip to the Bathroom is brought to you by
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Speaking of squeezing the sharmon. Some of the memes from
this UH Tech CEO and the head of HR unbelievable
and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
The best you got to.

Speaker 7 (01:28:53):
You got the mister and missus Philly fanatic going at it.
You got the Trump up and embracing Hillary. I believe
they they both they both head south yeah, I bet
what was the other one that was? Oh, Patrick Mahomes
and a referee. He's holding it, he's clutching a referral,

(01:29:14):
hugging a referee. These two people are making millions of
dollars living the life. Right, go to a Coldplay concert
right mark Boston in Boston. The guy looks up and said, hey,
let's go, let's go over the cross cam.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Yeah, as the CEO has got his hands on her
boobies and she's the HR director.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
What can go wrong on? Who do you call? Then?

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Ghostbusters the assistant HR director. Okay, that gives eight eight eight,
whatever it is, it gives feminists a job.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
You're an HR director.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
I graduate from Harvard or Yale or somewhere, you're in
women's studies, you become an HR director.

Speaker 7 (01:29:46):
And of course the company has to be based here.
She will sue all millions of dollars. Well, then he'll
get divorced to it. And how much is that going
to cost?

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
His wife? Indicates things aren't going well right now. I
wouldn't think so should not touch me?

Speaker 7 (01:30:00):
Maybe you know who might be involved in the litigation.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Joe Dieters, the Magic Man, does he Marlin shiverduck. Does
he do those kind of absolutely enough money, He'll do
about anything.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Okay, believe me, Joy that might go to the you
might go to justice, Joe Dieters said, let me see
the evidence.

Speaker 7 (01:30:19):
Also will he congrats to all the TV folks and
everybody that got all the Emmys over the weekend, and
Kanyo Rourke got Kanye Rourke and also Tricia Misher, Mackie
Ye got Faron Johnson.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Daron Johnson, She's good. Why don't we ever get an Emmy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
For this rady? You think we're out of it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Just test figure that out? Just testing you think you're
gonna put us? They put you on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
And understand, Andy Furman was there?

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Is that correct? That is correct?

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
And the fur Ball was there asking the only good
questions asked by anyone. Why didn't you ask the tough questions?
I just didn't feel like it. You were slurping.

Speaker 7 (01:30:58):
Just I just I'm I'm worthless without wild.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Band and you say that for the history of mankind
Right there, the wild Man will be here to harass you,
oh boy, merciless slate next week. I want to be
there for it. He's offerating the pick six booth. Yeah, yeah, unbelieving.
I'll keep five and give you one. That's the pick six.
You are you suggesting some improper handling? And no, it's real,

(01:31:24):
it's reality. That's what that's called.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
I go there once.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
How how did the big bash at Sycamore Township go over?
Did you in the first lady?

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
No, Penny loves the powdered donuts when she wears a
black top. I know that, but we did not go
this year because I've seen ac DC before. I didn't
want to see him again.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
Well, I mean, did you go to the festival though,
and walk like walk around?

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
I figure it was going to be muddy. Play golf
at Kenric Country Love. I thought it was in the
baton death March. Keep the carts on the path. Every
ball I hit was one hundred and fifty yards left
of the cart path. I put the bag on my
back and start walking. I felt like a caddy again. Tino,
I got hammered, We got hammered. Tough weekend. Huh, Mike,
Let me guess. Would you lose fifteen bucks?

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Twenty eight? Oh wow? Well big deficit there.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
And in the money segment when you look at somebody
the eyes that I beat your ass, give me your
money and in the money.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Okay, else, it's just the pride, pride knowing you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
But I kicked the ass Steve, Mike, Steve, Tina and
I were partners in Mike Lane and played very well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
So I don't know. We got our ass kicked. Well,
now you got Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
I's gonna play right, He said. He doesn't play golf
and doesn't have clubs.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Though that guy can do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
He's the Gatorade Player of the Year in two sports. Right,
he makes Barry Larkin look like a numb nut and
he goes to malor. He's the player of the year
in football and and baseball and he's a junior.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Thank you. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:32:55):
Is he better in foot? I mean, he's better in both? Right,
you can't he is? He can't both? Right, it's like
being It's like dating twins. You have to choose one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
When'd you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
I take both? Oh that's a different issue. Oh okay,
all I can tell you Matt Ponatowski is a good kid. Though, yes, yes,
he is good kid.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
He said.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
He can't come back anymore. As coach called him, he said,
leave him alone. He did the Studge report. Jeez, I said,
let's get him on here before the mull Or High
School finds out bingo which case that's it? Oh well,
well you gotta you gotta make your own music and city.
He was here, He was here for.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Kiss one oh seven act. We aren't that bad. They're
they're worse. It's terrible. John John awful.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
And then his mother worked with John John at another
radio station, so you know it's Matt good.

Speaker 7 (01:33:42):
They were out there tossing the football and you should
have saw John John try to catch a football.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
Ten thumbs, had no chance like him. All right, give
me out of the studg's report. We got many issues,
so little time, okay.

Speaker 7 (01:33:53):
Willie and honor of a beautiful Monday with nice cool
temperatures out there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
I think I'm having on tomorrow and liveing legend from
the Boston, Massachusetts Bobby Or No, keep going, Uh, Tom Brady, No,
Bill Belichick, Howie car what the And then next week

(01:34:18):
Tom Brenneman, the Bill Belichick, Will the interview Jay Hudd
be in the house, I'd say yes, I don't know.
I said, I'm looking.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Forward to it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:32):
He said, he's he's he is talking to coach Belichick himself.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Tom over the weekend once again with Steve Bartonman on
the mic in Chicago. That guy's like disappeared, right, he's disappeared.
He's handled it with more class than Cubs fans have. Oh,
I mean that guy. He got the World Series ringing
the year after the Yeah, that's true. And they wanted
to honor him throughout the first pitch and he said no,

(01:34:59):
well he's probably still the one of the ten most
wanted and Shane and you got it. You got the
World Series rings so well. But uh but Tom Brennman
was on the mic and uh, that's the history. But
he's gonna interview Bill Belichick and uh, his lover maybe
Jay Hood. Give me out the Students Report, please, Willy,
we leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
If you don't think you have a problem in your community,
you're probably wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Lastly, the Red Lakes have played one hundred games as
I speak, correct. They have played fifty at home and
fifty on the road. Right, they're just beat it home.
The best team in baseball home record is the Metropolitans,
But coming up this month are games against Saint Louis.

Speaker 7 (01:35:44):
Well, they got Tampa Bay this weekend, Yankee. Then the
Dodgers gone to town, no problem there, and then after
that h Brewers at some point. They never got to
play the Brewers seven more times throughout the rest of
the season. And the Cubs they haven't. They have not
done with the You gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Beat the Brewers, the Cubs. They can't beat the Brewers,
the Cups, the Pirates of the Cardinals. Is that a problem? Yes,
they beat the Yankees right, five out of six. Yeah,
they beat up on h Boston they were one in three,
but then New York Mets they're two and one. They
played the good teams well and the bad teams poorly,

(01:36:21):
and Pittsburgh stinks.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
And everything.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
They got one good player now and he doesn't hustle
cruise and one good looking girlfriend talking about I call
her live. Then go Paul Skeins yep, talking about having
life by the Coyones. That's right there, baby, All right. Segment,
thank you, yes sir, Let's see what happens down the road.
Reds Baseball kicks off about five forty five to night

(01:36:47):
and segment where is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
His sports report being brought from?

Speaker 7 (01:36:51):
Well you we're also presented by this week by a
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Speaker 1 (01:37:09):
Don't be a clown, is what I tell them. Segment
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