July 22, 2025 • 17 mins
Willie talks with Dan Hils of Frontline Advisors about what it would take to make Cincinnati safe again.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill cunning in the Great America, and welcome this sunny
Tuesday afternoon in the Tri State.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The rain's going away till the weekend. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Then Red's baseball kicks off about five forty five to night.
Terrible game last night, Singer, he was off key completely.
It's terrible and Red's put up eight runs, didn't do
any good. But nonetheless back out at tonight with the
Nationals national stink. So we'll see what happens with that.
But the city announced big pow wow a by having
extra police patrols from Central Parkway to Liberty on two blocks.
(00:37):
I think it's up Vine Street and back in Main Street.
So cops when it's eighty five or ninety five degrees
will be walking up and down from Vine Street, getting
some great extracife, maybe stopping in the graters here and there,
talking to the residents, finding what's going on. Of course,
relying upon Iris Rowley. The mother of Cincinnati is Iris Rowley,
and she'll be there with her six figure salary talking
(00:59):
to the resident to see what they need. But a
man that has perspective on all this is the great
Sergeant Dan Hills. He's now more or less retired with
frontline advisors thirty five years in the mean streets of Cincinnati.
Now has gotten visa, has a passport. I think he
lives in Warren County. Got out alive, and Sergeant Dan Hills,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Since you know
(01:20):
where the bodies are buried all over Cincinnati, can you
tell me the law enforcement value of having police officers
in a defined area flooding the district with two or
three police officers leaving bear all the other streets in OTR.
There's about seven or eight total blocks, and they're going
to patrol two of the seven or eight.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Will that help, Dan Hills? Will that help?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I think it might help three seed easy, It might
help the dinner reservation numbers might have been down a
little because of all the news and evolving over a rhine.
So we need we need to we need to have
the wine flowing, Willie. We need to have the you know,
(02:07):
the the flaming yon being being cooked just right, and
and those restaurants and those things down there. You know,
that's that's that's very vital to the way the city
wants to see itself. The downtown flourishing, and of course
the the vision, the vision of uh three CDC and
then and over the rhine that has never I don't
(02:31):
think it's it's come to fruition quite as as they
had hoped that it would. You know, it's a lot
of change. It's a whole lot different than when I
was standing down there in the riots in two thousand
and one. But uh, it's it's it's come a long way,
but Willy, it's got a long long way to go
from where they where they hope it is. And and
(02:53):
so that's what I think the value is. And you
can we could debate whether that's wrong or right. I mean,
if if here somebody that's living in Mount Washington, the
war Hyde Park or Taylor Park or something like that,
and you haven't seen you haven't seen a police officer
in a month of Sundays, then you might say, well,
this is this ain't too cool. But uh, you know,
(03:16):
the city sees itself, you know, going up or down,
on on on how downtown slashed over to rhyme progresses,
and so it Yeah, I think I I read in
the in the news where the union president said that
this saint, this ain't the hours of the burglaries and
the and the except from cars and all that stuff.
(03:39):
And I would agree. And but it is the hour
of like I said, a glass of wine and maybe
a mixed drink for those who enjoy that going down
to that air myself, like you said, I'm in Warren County. Uh,
my wife and I When we say we're going downtown, yeah,
(04:00):
or we're going to go downtown, We're either going to
downtown Levinmon or downtown Loveland.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know, every down. Then we'll go to downtown Milford
when we really want to, we want to make it
up a little bit, we'll go down. Yeah, we'll go
to downtown Milford. But you know it's it's uh, the
city wants the downtown to flirt. And that's not like
I said, I I can't sit there and just throw
a hand grenade after hangarnade at that. That's it. There
(04:27):
is value in that. But again, if if your airways
are reaching out to the farther reaches of the city, uh,
those in Westwood and Covedale and uh Oakley and some
of these places, they might be saying, well, where's my
police patrol? I'm sure like because those step fromatos aren't
just happening in O t R. Really, those stephf fromatos
(04:50):
and the stolen cars are happening all over the city,
and burgeries are happening all over the city. And you know,
we're still down one hundred and fifty or more police.
And when we're doing a concentrated effort because there's such
there's such tremendous issues down there with the crime numbers
and O TRUH, when you're doing those concentrated numbers, it
(05:11):
does eventually have an effect on the the other areas
that you can't you can't you can't pull a rabbit
out of hat and you can't you can't just make
something out of nothing that they're they're half those those
patrols are coming from somewhere. And I know that's the
oldest headline. I think the oldest headlines in the in
(05:33):
the history of of of reporting is stone Sell will
add more patrols house how state troopers are going to
add more patrols for this event or that event? Like
where are they getting all these new people? I think
it's Uh, sometimes it's it's a little bit smoking mirrors,
really adding patrols of smoking ears and this is a
(05:53):
little smoking mirrors, you know, having a couple of people walking,
it should have some positive effects from those few blocks.
I personally wouldn't want to be the one walking those
the streets you might have you might have somebody that
might not be a big fan, you know, cause you
cause you concern, shall I say, down in those areas
(06:15):
you might feel a little uncovered at times.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, you know, I was Sergeant Dan Hill's facts are
stubborn things, and when I had your successful successor in
title on Officer ken Kober, he related the fact that
in the first six months of this year there were
one one hundred car break ins, which means you're heading
toward over two thousand car break ins. We're going to
head toward about four hundred wounded, about eighty to ninety
(06:39):
will be killed. The burglaries and rocks through windness to
steal the liquor is unbridled. Channel five last night had
some well intended I'm sure, a liberal Democratic female woman
operating some sort of a dress shop on Vine Street
saying she'd been broken into four times since the first
of the year, and at some point she quit calling
the police because there's nothing, nothing that they're going to do.
(07:01):
And it's because when the arrest are made, you get
to juvenile court or common police court, and the criminals
are out before the paperwork is done. Then one sentencing
takes place, nothing occurs. And so for those who say
it's political, it really isn't. Twenty years ago the Democrats
controlled everything in the city of Cincinnati and things are
not bad. They've gone from Democrats to progressives, to Marxist
(07:25):
to communists to keep going further left. And that, mom, Donna,
you think it's possible to be a communist elected?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The answer is yes.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And so what is the sergeant dan Hill's solution to rampant,
unbridled crime, mobs of teenagers taking over streets, whether it's
into Oakley or in Clifton or on the banks. What
is the Dan Hill's solution? Because if it isn't politics,
I think Charlie Luken was, for example, I think he
(07:54):
was a Democrat, and I think Brendan Cole was a Democrat.
I don't know about Tom Striker politics, probably a Democrat.
And so what changed in twenty years? The politics are
the same, but the results are different.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Why well, Willie.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I think you have so many issues to just brush
on them. You just have the rot and decay of
society that continues to go further and further left. I
was talking to a police friend just earlier this morning
and saying, like, how many generations has it been where
there is not a mother and father involved in, you know,
the raising of kids. I started the mean streets of
(08:32):
Cincinnati in nineteen eighty seven, and sometimes the bad guys
to deal with, you know, they had a mother that
cared or something that we could report to. I remember
working with this old old policeman, Dave Shaum, God rest
his soul. He we used to threaten bad guys he
knew with telling their mothers on him, and they would,
they would, they would, don't do that, don't do that offer.
(08:53):
I don't tell my mom, you know, I'll get that
warrant taken care of. Well, let's go take care of it.
And how much that's changed. There was always a mother,
maybe a grandmother, maybe a grandfather on occasions that was involved.
But now you have so many generations as the generations
turn over quickly because you have babies having babies. And
(09:13):
that police friend I was talking to now, he says,
he says, do you remember when you were a young policemen.
He had talk to the kids, and they would aspire
to be a baseball player, football player, basketball player, something
like that. He says, Now these kids aspire to be thugs.
That's what they want. They want to be thugs. They
have no other hero worship than the thuggery around them.
(09:36):
So you have societal rot. And you know the fact
that we don't take care of the little things anymore
leads to societal rot. Look at the homeless stuff down
that time you brought up my front line advisor's work.
I often represent correction deputies and predisciplinary hearings and the
third shifters have early morning hearings, and I'll be down
(09:57):
there and walk around see all the home almost well,
this is not this morning, but yesterday morning. And uh,
I had hearings both mornings. I'm walking and it's still,
you know, it's just now getting little haze of light.
And in the little pocket of a business was a
man sleeping. And that man, well he was only half
asleep because he had his jars down and let me
(10:18):
see radio. He was giving himself some pleasure as he
lay there on his side, facing into the into the door.
And I think, well, you know. I guess in fact,
it's become these folks bedroom. So if that's how he
wakes up, uh doing that. But but I just thought
of the rot of of the inner city into the decay.
(10:39):
And there's probably a couple other homeless people sleeping within
sight of of this. So do you do you want
to have a business, Willie where you come down to
unlock your doors and there's uh, there's something great. Big
fellow there lay laying and made bed bed way your
your entrance way, and and he's and he's sitting there,
(10:59):
I don't know, thinking of thinking of some sort of
pornographic thing in his mind while he's a pleasuring making
self feel making himself feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well, Sergeant Daniels, you brought up quality of life. And
I've said this for the last few years. It's the
broken window theory. Take care of the small stuff that
so it doesn't metastasize the large stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It used to be.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
We had a really tough, I think cruel sentencing judge
named Jack Rosen who would put people in jail in
the first defense for not having a driver's license for
six months. Now, cops in Cincinnati aren't pulling people over
because it's a pain in the neck. Let me have
your license and proof of insurance. Well I don't have
a license. Well where's your license. I'm not sure you
(11:45):
have proof of insurance. No, let me run. What's your name?
I don't want to give you my name. What's your
data birth? I might give you my data birth. And
so suddenly then you tell somebody I'm gonna pull you
out of the car and I'm gonna find out who
you are.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, none of that happens today.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And so it was a sense that we pull large
peoples over, people over for minor traffic violations. It leads
to this, then it leads to that, and then it
leads to this. So we have large numbers of curfew violators,
which they used to have rec centers to take the
kids to rec centers, have their parents come pick them up.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But they don't do that anymore. I see open air drug.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Sales at Washington Park and open air marijuana use. I
go up to two cops and duty's sitting there. I'm
watching this family draw. All of them are smoking pot.
He said, well, we don't enforce that anymore. I said, well,
you know, it is a state criminal statute. He said,
but we're told not to enforce that anymore. Drunkenness, homelessness,
bricks through windows. The little things lead to bigger things.
(12:37):
And then when they do arrest somebody. Ken Kober tells
me that to get a bond set, it's always no bond.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
A magistrate Anita Birding, about two weeks ago set a
low bond on some eighteen year old that shot a
fourteen year old in the back of the head and
robbed them. And that kid's out on the street with
his gun. The Ryan Hinton model just turn eighteen years old.
Life of Rhyme and the social media postings have him
with looks like the Fredo Bandino with numerous guns hanging
(13:06):
from him as if it's a compliment. So you take
care of the small stuff, that doesn't become the big stuff.
Now we don't do the small stuff, it becomes the
big stuff when the big stuff happens. Shoot somebody in
the back of the head. I don't bond anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That's the problem, not even taking care of the big stuff.
And I willly you know you you bring me back
to the good old days. I remember Judge Rosen, I'm
sure you remember Judge hammerm hard. Harry mcawain absolutely, absolutely, yes, Uh,
A couple others you know that that were just fabulous that.
(13:40):
You know, when we walked back from the room, we
we knew the bad we knew the bad guy was
was going to regret their actions to some degree. And
that that's that's why I said, it's so, it's so
many societal issues. I don't know where to begin. You know,
if you ask me what what would I do? I
would do everything I could get our numbers back up.
I would do everything I could publicly front out the
(14:04):
the the judges and the sheriff and the prosecutor, everything
I could to get them to get as busy as
they could. And then I would probably explore putting more
and more folks out there. And this is this is
after the murder of the of the gym owner. I
was thinking, why why not have more people out there
(14:26):
in our our criminal apprehension units to where we're out
there looking for all these wanted folks, because we know
we got hundreds, we got thousands of people want And
that's what they were talking about. The bad guy in
that case, Mordecai Black, he was he was wanted, but
he wasn't necessarily, I know the cofferme on the computer ones,
(14:46):
but even going to the radar of the of the
of our Major Apprehensions unit, they are too busy looking
for people who shot people kill people. If we would
expand those units and go out there and just start
going after all of our violent wanted felon's and get
them off the streets, because they're the ones that are
repeat offending it over and over and over again. But
(15:06):
it doesn't work unless the next steps of the justice
system are also intact. And there's not a whole lot
you can do about that if you're the police chief.
But if I was the police chief, I would do
everything I could do at my end, Like I said,
I'd get those numbers back up by pressure city Hall
to make those numbers greater, because when you have a
lack of the back end of the justice system, you
(15:26):
more or less need an occupying army. And that's what
they're showing you. And yeah, it's probably business is probably
three CDC that's forcing the officers to be there. But
there should be officers like that and all sorts of
problem areas around the city, and we should be locking
folks up. And back to the pressure campaign doing everything
you can from you know her end, from the police
(15:49):
chief's end. There's more that could be done. You got
to get the mayor. You got to get the mayor
fired up. He's got to start confronting the county officials.
He's got to startling against democratic buddies. And and that's
not gonna have a witness.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Now, I know by'm wishful thinking. Give me a little
witchful thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Here, Sergeant Hills. I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
If somebody wants to break into a business or into
a car, which happens two thousand times every year, don't
do it between four to twelve at four pm to
midnight on Maine and Vine Street.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Wait till one am in the morning, and you're good
to go.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Instead of saying, you know what, it's smoking mirrors, it's
not reality.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It is. Indeed, it's smoking mirrors. But I think you
can be a little bit more comfortable if you're if
you're going downtown, they have yourself a cocktail, and that's
that's step sependlorus.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I gotta go to Peppin Dolores and get some shrimp
flombay and pasta. Bolina's and I feel good about it.
Just get out by midnight because that's when the streets
are turned over. All right, Sergeant Dan Hills, I was
going to talk to you about Covington police who've become
a big issue beating the crap out of protesters. In Cincinnati,
they give them little paper tick. In Covington, they kick
your ass. And that's the way things are. The poor
(17:04):
cops going to be in the crosshairs that Davey Muir
of ABC News until he's fired. We'll talk about that
some other day. But Sergeant Dan Hills, Frontline Advisors, thirty
five years in the business, a proud resident of Warren County.
Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And sergeant
you're a great American. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
God bless you you William, God bless America.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's been several days, but the National News has figured
out there's a different approach to lawbreakers in Covington as
opposed as Cincinnati and Cincinnati they hand you a daisy
and a piece of paper. In Covington, they kick your ass.
Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham News. Next, that's your
home of the Reds. Maybe a win tonight in Washington
(17:44):
on news radio seven hundred WLW
Bill cunning in the Great America, and welcome this sunny
Tuesday afternoon in the Tri State.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
The rain's going away till the weekend. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Then Red's baseball kicks off about five forty five to night.
Terrible game last night, Singer, he was off key completely.
It's terrible and Red's put up eight runs, didn't do
any good. But nonetheless back out at tonight with the
Nationals national stink. So we'll see what happens with that.
But the city announced big pow wow a by having
extra police patrols from Central Parkway to Liberty on two blocks.
(00:37):
I think it's up Vine Street and back in Main Street.
So cops when it's eighty five or ninety five degrees
will be walking up and down from Vine Street, getting
some great extracife, maybe stopping in the graters here and there,
talking to the residents, finding what's going on. Of course,
relying upon Iris Rowley. The mother of Cincinnati is Iris Rowley,
and she'll be there with her six figure salary talking
(00:59):
to the resident to see what they need. But a
man that has perspective on all this is the great
Sergeant Dan Hills. He's now more or less retired with
frontline advisors thirty five years in the mean streets of Cincinnati.
Now has gotten visa, has a passport. I think he
lives in Warren County. Got out alive, and Sergeant Dan Hills,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. Since you know
(01:20):
where the bodies are buried all over Cincinnati, can you
tell me the law enforcement value of having police officers
in a defined area flooding the district with two or
three police officers leaving bear all the other streets in OTR.
There's about seven or eight total blocks, and they're going
to patrol two of the seven or eight.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Will that help, Dan Hills? Will that help?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I think it might help three seed easy, It might
help the dinner reservation numbers might have been down a
little because of all the news and evolving over a rhine.
So we need we need to we need to have
the wine flowing, Willie. We need to have the you know,
(02:07):
the the flaming yon being being cooked just right, and
and those restaurants and those things down there. You know,
that's that's that's very vital to the way the city
wants to see itself. The downtown flourishing, and of course
the the vision, the vision of uh three CDC and
then and over the rhine that has never I don't
(02:31):
think it's it's come to fruition quite as as they
had hoped that it would. You know, it's a lot
of change. It's a whole lot different than when I
was standing down there in the riots in two thousand
and one. But uh, it's it's it's come a long way,
but Willy, it's got a long long way to go
from where they where they hope it is. And and
(02:53):
so that's what I think the value is. And you
can we could debate whether that's wrong or right. I mean,
if if here somebody that's living in Mount Washington, the
war Hyde Park or Taylor Park or something like that,
and you haven't seen you haven't seen a police officer
in a month of Sundays, then you might say, well,
this is this ain't too cool. But uh, you know,
(03:16):
the city sees itself, you know, going up or down,
on on on how downtown slashed over to rhyme progresses,
and so it Yeah, I think I I read in
the in the news where the union president said that
this saint, this ain't the hours of the burglaries and
the and the except from cars and all that stuff.
(03:39):
And I would agree. And but it is the hour
of like I said, a glass of wine and maybe
a mixed drink for those who enjoy that going down
to that air myself, like you said, I'm in Warren County. Uh,
my wife and I When we say we're going downtown, yeah,
(04:00):
or we're going to go downtown, We're either going to
downtown Levinmon or downtown Loveland.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
You know, every down. Then we'll go to downtown Milford
when we really want to, we want to make it
up a little bit, we'll go down. Yeah, we'll go
to downtown Milford. But you know it's it's uh, the
city wants the downtown to flirt. And that's not like
I said, I I can't sit there and just throw
a hand grenade after hangarnade at that. That's it. There
(04:27):
is value in that. But again, if if your airways
are reaching out to the farther reaches of the city, uh,
those in Westwood and Covedale and uh Oakley and some
of these places, they might be saying, well, where's my
police patrol? I'm sure like because those step fromatos aren't
just happening in O t R. Really, those stephf fromatos
(04:50):
and the stolen cars are happening all over the city,
and burgeries are happening all over the city. And you know,
we're still down one hundred and fifty or more police.
And when we're doing a concentrated effort because there's such
there's such tremendous issues down there with the crime numbers
and O TRUH, when you're doing those concentrated numbers, it
(05:11):
does eventually have an effect on the the other areas
that you can't you can't you can't pull a rabbit
out of hat and you can't you can't just make
something out of nothing that they're they're half those those
patrols are coming from somewhere. And I know that's the
oldest headline. I think the oldest headlines in the in
(05:33):
the history of of of reporting is stone Sell will
add more patrols house how state troopers are going to
add more patrols for this event or that event? Like
where are they getting all these new people? I think
it's Uh, sometimes it's it's a little bit smoking mirrors,
really adding patrols of smoking ears and this is a
(05:53):
little smoking mirrors, you know, having a couple of people walking,
it should have some positive effects from those few blocks.
I personally wouldn't want to be the one walking those
the streets you might have you might have somebody that
might not be a big fan, you know, cause you
cause you concern, shall I say, down in those areas
(06:15):
you might feel a little uncovered at times.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, you know, I was Sergeant Dan Hill's facts are
stubborn things, and when I had your successful successor in
title on Officer ken Kober, he related the fact that
in the first six months of this year there were
one one hundred car break ins, which means you're heading
toward over two thousand car break ins. We're going to
head toward about four hundred wounded, about eighty to ninety
(06:39):
will be killed. The burglaries and rocks through windness to
steal the liquor is unbridled. Channel five last night had
some well intended I'm sure, a liberal Democratic female woman
operating some sort of a dress shop on Vine Street
saying she'd been broken into four times since the first
of the year, and at some point she quit calling
the police because there's nothing, nothing that they're going to do.
(07:01):
And it's because when the arrest are made, you get
to juvenile court or common police court, and the criminals
are out before the paperwork is done. Then one sentencing
takes place, nothing occurs. And so for those who say
it's political, it really isn't. Twenty years ago the Democrats
controlled everything in the city of Cincinnati and things are
not bad. They've gone from Democrats to progressives, to Marxist
(07:25):
to communists to keep going further left. And that, mom, Donna,
you think it's possible to be a communist elected?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
The answer is yes.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And so what is the sergeant dan Hill's solution to rampant,
unbridled crime, mobs of teenagers taking over streets, whether it's
into Oakley or in Clifton or on the banks. What
is the Dan Hill's solution? Because if it isn't politics,
I think Charlie Luken was, for example, I think he
(07:54):
was a Democrat, and I think Brendan Cole was a Democrat.
I don't know about Tom Striker politics, probably a Democrat.
And so what changed in twenty years? The politics are
the same, but the results are different.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Why well, Willie.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I think you have so many issues to just brush
on them. You just have the rot and decay of
society that continues to go further and further left. I
was talking to a police friend just earlier this morning
and saying, like, how many generations has it been where
there is not a mother and father involved in, you know,
the raising of kids. I started the mean streets of
(08:32):
Cincinnati in nineteen eighty seven, and sometimes the bad guys
to deal with, you know, they had a mother that
cared or something that we could report to. I remember
working with this old old policeman, Dave Shaum, God rest
his soul. He we used to threaten bad guys he
knew with telling their mothers on him, and they would,
they would, they would, don't do that, don't do that offer.
(08:53):
I don't tell my mom, you know, I'll get that
warrant taken care of. Well, let's go take care of it.
And how much that's changed. There was always a mother,
maybe a grandmother, maybe a grandfather on occasions that was involved.
But now you have so many generations as the generations
turn over quickly because you have babies having babies. And
(09:13):
that police friend I was talking to now, he says,
he says, do you remember when you were a young policemen.
He had talk to the kids, and they would aspire
to be a baseball player, football player, basketball player, something
like that. He says, Now these kids aspire to be thugs.
That's what they want. They want to be thugs. They
have no other hero worship than the thuggery around them.
(09:36):
So you have societal rot. And you know the fact
that we don't take care of the little things anymore
leads to societal rot. Look at the homeless stuff down
that time you brought up my front line advisor's work.
I often represent correction deputies and predisciplinary hearings and the
third shifters have early morning hearings, and I'll be down
(09:57):
there and walk around see all the home almost well,
this is not this morning, but yesterday morning. And uh,
I had hearings both mornings. I'm walking and it's still,
you know, it's just now getting little haze of light.
And in the little pocket of a business was a
man sleeping. And that man, well he was only half
asleep because he had his jars down and let me
(10:18):
see radio. He was giving himself some pleasure as he
lay there on his side, facing into the into the door.
And I think, well, you know. I guess in fact,
it's become these folks bedroom. So if that's how he
wakes up, uh doing that. But but I just thought
of the rot of of the inner city into the decay.
(10:39):
And there's probably a couple other homeless people sleeping within
sight of of this. So do you do you want
to have a business, Willie where you come down to
unlock your doors and there's uh, there's something great. Big
fellow there lay laying and made bed bed way your
your entrance way, and and he's and he's sitting there,
(10:59):
I don't know, thinking of thinking of some sort of
pornographic thing in his mind while he's a pleasuring making
self feel making himself feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Well, Sergeant Daniels, you brought up quality of life. And
I've said this for the last few years. It's the
broken window theory. Take care of the small stuff that
so it doesn't metastasize the large stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It used to be.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
We had a really tough, I think cruel sentencing judge
named Jack Rosen who would put people in jail in
the first defense for not having a driver's license for
six months. Now, cops in Cincinnati aren't pulling people over
because it's a pain in the neck. Let me have
your license and proof of insurance. Well I don't have
a license. Well where's your license. I'm not sure you
(11:45):
have proof of insurance. No, let me run. What's your name?
I don't want to give you my name. What's your
data birth? I might give you my data birth. And
so suddenly then you tell somebody I'm gonna pull you
out of the car and I'm gonna find out who
you are.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well, none of that happens today.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And so it was a sense that we pull large
peoples over, people over for minor traffic violations. It leads
to this, then it leads to that, and then it
leads to this. So we have large numbers of curfew violators,
which they used to have rec centers to take the
kids to rec centers, have their parents come pick them up.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But they don't do that anymore. I see open air drug.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Sales at Washington Park and open air marijuana use. I
go up to two cops and duty's sitting there. I'm
watching this family draw. All of them are smoking pot.
He said, well, we don't enforce that anymore. I said, well,
you know, it is a state criminal statute. He said,
but we're told not to enforce that anymore. Drunkenness, homelessness,
bricks through windows. The little things lead to bigger things.
(12:37):
And then when they do arrest somebody. Ken Kober tells
me that to get a bond set, it's always no bond.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Hell.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
A magistrate Anita Birding, about two weeks ago set a
low bond on some eighteen year old that shot a
fourteen year old in the back of the head and
robbed them. And that kid's out on the street with
his gun. The Ryan Hinton model just turn eighteen years old.
Life of Rhyme and the social media postings have him
with looks like the Fredo Bandino with numerous guns hanging
(13:06):
from him as if it's a compliment. So you take
care of the small stuff, that doesn't become the big stuff.
Now we don't do the small stuff, it becomes the
big stuff when the big stuff happens. Shoot somebody in
the back of the head. I don't bond anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
That's the problem, not even taking care of the big stuff.
And I willly you know you you bring me back
to the good old days. I remember Judge Rosen, I'm
sure you remember Judge hammerm hard. Harry mcawain absolutely, absolutely, yes, Uh,
A couple others you know that that were just fabulous that.
(13:40):
You know, when we walked back from the room, we
we knew the bad we knew the bad guy was
was going to regret their actions to some degree. And
that that's that's why I said, it's so, it's so
many societal issues. I don't know where to begin. You know,
if you ask me what what would I do? I
would do everything I could get our numbers back up.
I would do everything I could publicly front out the
(14:04):
the the judges and the sheriff and the prosecutor, everything
I could to get them to get as busy as
they could. And then I would probably explore putting more
and more folks out there. And this is this is
after the murder of the of the gym owner. I
was thinking, why why not have more people out there
(14:26):
in our our criminal apprehension units to where we're out
there looking for all these wanted folks, because we know
we got hundreds, we got thousands of people want And
that's what they were talking about. The bad guy in
that case, Mordecai Black, he was he was wanted, but
he wasn't necessarily, I know the cofferme on the computer ones,
(14:46):
but even going to the radar of the of the
of our Major Apprehensions unit, they are too busy looking
for people who shot people kill people. If we would
expand those units and go out there and just start
going after all of our violent wanted felon's and get
them off the streets, because they're the ones that are
repeat offending it over and over and over again. But
(15:06):
it doesn't work unless the next steps of the justice
system are also intact. And there's not a whole lot
you can do about that if you're the police chief.
But if I was the police chief, I would do
everything I could do at my end, Like I said,
I'd get those numbers back up by pressure city Hall
to make those numbers greater, because when you have a
lack of the back end of the justice system, you
(15:26):
more or less need an occupying army. And that's what
they're showing you. And yeah, it's probably business is probably
three CDC that's forcing the officers to be there. But
there should be officers like that and all sorts of
problem areas around the city, and we should be locking
folks up. And back to the pressure campaign doing everything
you can from you know her end, from the police
(15:49):
chief's end. There's more that could be done. You got
to get the mayor. You got to get the mayor
fired up. He's got to start confronting the county officials.
He's got to startling against democratic buddies. And and that's
not gonna have a witness.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Now, I know by'm wishful thinking. Give me a little
witchful thinking.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Here, Sergeant Hills. I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
If somebody wants to break into a business or into
a car, which happens two thousand times every year, don't
do it between four to twelve at four pm to
midnight on Maine and Vine Street.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Wait till one am in the morning, and you're good
to go.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Instead of saying, you know what, it's smoking mirrors, it's
not reality.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It is. Indeed, it's smoking mirrors. But I think you
can be a little bit more comfortable if you're if
you're going downtown, they have yourself a cocktail, and that's
that's step sependlorus.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I gotta go to Peppin Dolores and get some shrimp
flombay and pasta. Bolina's and I feel good about it.
Just get out by midnight because that's when the streets
are turned over. All right, Sergeant Dan Hills, I was
going to talk to you about Covington police who've become
a big issue beating the crap out of protesters. In Cincinnati,
they give them little paper tick. In Covington, they kick
your ass. And that's the way things are. The poor
(17:04):
cops going to be in the crosshairs that Davey Muir
of ABC News until he's fired. We'll talk about that
some other day. But Sergeant Dan Hills, Frontline Advisors, thirty
five years in the business, a proud resident of Warren County.
Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And sergeant
you're a great American. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
God bless you you William, God bless America.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's been several days, but the National News has figured
out there's a different approach to lawbreakers in Covington as
opposed as Cincinnati and Cincinnati they hand you a daisy
and a piece of paper. In Covington, they kick your ass.
Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham News. Next, that's your
home of the Reds. Maybe a win tonight in Washington
(17:44):
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