7-24-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie breaks down the the progress of the current Congress with Rep Warren Davidson. Also Ohio FOP President Jay McDonald discusses the shooting of three Ohio police officers. Finally Willie addresses the American people.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Billy Cunningham, the great American.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welcome to Thursday afternoon in the tri State Hotter than
the hinges of Hell. Grets baseball off today after a
great win yesterday. Nikola Adolo, Nita Hunter Greenback will see
what happens. A lot of stuff happening Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Grets baseball continues. Un debate it. But until then, believe
it or not, about twenty five percent of the congressional

(00:28):
term has now been completed. The House's out of session.
There's a few other matters to pick up in the Senate.
But Jonan, you and I now as Congressmen, Representative Warren Davidson,
it's been there about ten to twelve years to talk
about what was accomplished, what wasn't accomplished, and the Warren
Davidson welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. So if
I would ask you, what are the two or three
best things that happened in the first twenty five percent

(00:50):
of this term, what would you say, if anything.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, I'd say January sixth, this year we confirmed President
Donald J. Trump as the forty seventh President of the
United States. It's got to be the best sequel going.
I mean, this is awesome. I liked them and as
president number forty five, but as forty seven, the momentum
is awesome. We're getting a lot of great things done.
And that's probably the best thing Congress has gotten done,

(01:14):
is just getting that right. And then you know, if
you look at the next thing, the big beautiful bill.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Look, it's not a perfect bill.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
There's plenty of things that I don't like about it,
but it's loaded up with the President's agenda, and we
basically spent the year working on how to get that
thing better. And I think lastly, you know, we've laid
the groundwork for some really important bills that the Senate
hasn't yet taken up that would fix our immigration, would
fix our elections, would fix our census, things like that,

(01:41):
and we just got to keep the pressure on the
Senate to try to get some of that done.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Congressman, you've got no tax on tips, average slaps. Like
most of my family loved that idea. No tax on overtime.
I don't think the millionaires and the billionaires are worried
about taxes on overtime. That's a common sense middle class approach.
Social Security's got to be a way to have senior
citizens that have contributed so much to get a break
on that. And on top of that, the birthright one

(02:08):
thousand dollars IRA. I think most Americans that want to
have kids don't know about that one. You have a
lot of CAPEX expenditures that's going to bring back lots
of jobs to America. The numbers to numbers on unemployment
are low, the numbers on employment are high. In fact,
in June there was a budget surplus of twenty seven
billion dollars. A year ago in June there was a

(02:31):
three hundred and thirty five billion dollar deficit. I look
at immigration. Suddenly you don't need new laws, new orders.
You need a president to enforce the law. And right
now the illegal crossings on the southern border are down
basically to zero. But one thing came to light and
I sent you this article. Democratic leaders in a private
session leaked out indicated that in preparation for the next census,

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what they want to do is pop up illegals in
their district because the census counts per and not citizens.
And that's how states like California, for example, have four
to five extra congressman because they count persons in the state,
not citizens. And so when you look at why do
Democrats do what Democrats do, it's because the illegals are

(03:16):
counted for census, which goes into the Congress in other words,
where you are, which means more Democrats in the Congress.
Was that one of the unspoken policies of the Democrat
Party to pump up illegals under Joe Biden Kamala Harris
so that in the next census in twenty thirty, the
Democrats have a permanent majority in the House.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, it's always been the play.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I mean, you know, Barack Obama did that in his
first term and it influenced the twenty ten census.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
They did it as long as they could.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Get away with it until Donald Trump became president number
forty five up to the twenty twenty census, and Donald
Trump tried to get the census to only count US
citizens for the apportionment portion. I mean, you count everybody.
Of course, we want to know who all's here. We
don't know where the citizens are. And you know, there
are no sanctuary cities that are run by Republicans, right.

(04:06):
The sanctuary cities are designed to flood these you know,
bad policies They know that people with an opportunity to
leave tend to leave, So they're trying to replace the
population that finds a better way of life and gets out,
and they have to float them in with illegals to
hold their population line. Otherwise, California would be losing massive
numbers of reps, and you know, Fairpoint, Texas would lose

(04:29):
reps too, so would probably Florida some of these states
where there are a higher number of illegals. But that's
costing Ohio representation. And if you think about it, when
you netted out who would gain who would lose, we
think the Democrats could lose as much as twenty seats
if we actually just counted citizens when we draw congressional maps.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
And look, if you're not an American, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'll help you find your embassy or consulate because you
have an ambassador, you do not have a member of Congress.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh that's a great idea, But of course, perthright citizenship,
it was never an intent by the fourteenth Amendment to
have illegals from Venezuela become US citizens or count for
any purposes or to come here. I guess women have babies,
not a lot of men have babies, and so women
that come here that have a child. That's been interpreted
to me that the anchor baby is a US citizen,

(05:18):
which provides the family large numbers of benefits. Hopefully that'll
be stopped. Also, what role is there in the in
the do you play if any I want to get
your thoughts on the Trump Russia narrative, which has been
around for a long time.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
We kind of know what happened.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
That is, after the summer of twenty sixteen, Hillary was
in the jackpot for all the felony she committed by
destroying classified information on her home brewed server and chapel. Call,
we know what was happening. So she came up with
an idea just in case it would hurt her to
kind of blame Vladimir Putin and Trump for organizing some

(05:54):
sort of conspiracy to influence the twenty sixteen election, which
most Democrats believe happened in anyway, which is a lie.
But nonetheless, of course they wanted to influence our election.
China wanted to influence our election. Hell, we want to
influence elections everywhere. We've had US presidents try to kill
or kill foreign leaders like Fidel Castro or President DM

(06:15):
in South Vietnam. We have a long history of trying
to influence other elections, and it's okay to do that
as long as it's done legally. But the problem is
Hillary launched the Steele dossier as the basis for the
Russian Trump collusion delusion, as a defense as inoculation against
metastasizing your own crimes, and then once Trump got elected,

(06:36):
it shocked the system. Then Obama organized to get together
at Brendan Combe, Clapper and others to keep that thing
alive to ruin the first two years of his presidency.
Where do you stand on the issue of the Trump
Russia delusion collusion and what will happen in the future
if anything.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, you ran all that stuff down because you followed
it closely, and people that have listened to your show
for years, you know, know the truth.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
And in the reality is a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Of people are going what are we talking about back
in twenty sixteen, And what Tulsa Gabbard just made public
is it wasn't just Hillary Clinton in her campaign that
did this. It was President Barack Obama who after the
election convened his national security team and directed them to
change the intelligence, so that you had a pretext to

(07:21):
cover for the things that they were doing. They were
spying on his campaign. President Trump knew this. They were
spying on his transition team. And Frankly Kuda as one
of the unsung heroes is this guy, Admiral Mike Rodgers,
a Navy intelligence guy, who tells President Trump, Hey, they're
spying on you.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
And I got access to that. He was whistle I
think it's wrong.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
And there are whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork to
add credibility to what Tulsa Gabbart is now declassifying and
referring to the Department of Justice for prosecution. And look,
we had all this drama in the last election cycle
where everyone in the world on the left said, no
one's above the law. And let's just say that's not
the reaction to this information that Tulsa Gabbert's bringing to

(08:07):
light right now.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
And look, there has to be accountability for that.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
And an adjacent thing, you know, I hope Pam Bondi
comes here the minute we're back in session and it
does some explaining like how is it that one minute
you got binders about Epstein and everything else in the
world and it looks like there's gonna be prosecutions. You're
handing out binders to the press to kind of say, hey,
this is what's coming, get ready to cover it and
everything else, and then the next minute there's nothing to

(08:33):
see here. You're like, both those things can't really be true.
So come before the Committee of Jurisdiction and answer for yourself.
Do some explaining to the American people.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I kind of trust Dan Bongino a lot, Cash Putell
a lot, not so sure about Bondi. But for those
I've done some interviews around the country about why did
the mega types and Trump supporters kind of want more
information on Maxwell and Epstein. It's because it was promised
it would take place. And I have no doubt that
Trump did not have sex with teenage girls. He kicked

(09:06):
Epstein out of his club about seventeen years ago, massive investigations,
and if Joe Biden in four years of Merrick Garland,
they were not shy at all and indicting Donald Trump
in two different federal jurisdictions for all kinds of made
up offenses, if they had the goods on Donald Trump
to have sex with teenage girls under the leadership of
Jeffrey Epstein, we would have found that out years ago,

(09:28):
so it didn't happen. And so the fact that Pam
Bondy is somewhat reticent of releasing a lot of information.
The rumor is there's congressional leaders, business leaders and mukeeting
MUCKs of every description that took advantages of the crime
of Gislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. And that's the reason
that Donald doesn't want to release it enough for himself

(09:49):
but to protect others. So where do you stand on
the issue. By the way, as you know, the investigation
on these matters started in twenty oh seven, we're talking
eighteen years ago by alex Acosta in Florida, and it's
been going on for eighteen years and we still don't
know the names of the so called customers. Will they
ever be known?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Well, look, the only way I really want to know
the names is when they come out at trial, right
because I don't need to see a list.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
I don't need to see another report.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think the American people are sick of sy in
Congress or special investigators or prosecutors or whoever holding up
stuff saying see we got the goods on this that
or the other thing, and then no one ever goes
to jail and never prosecuted. Sure, that's why I want
Sam Bondy. It's like, look, why aren't the prosecutions occurring.
I want to find out about this because it's at trial,

(10:39):
not because somebody held a press conference. And that's what
I think the people are sick of, because in what
Pambondi teased is there's going to be prosecutions. And look,
I think it's hard to fathom that there were no clients, right,
there's somebody who was on the other side of Jelane Maxwell.
And to your point, look, we know from back to seven.

(11:00):
You know, you know Epstein was not a good guy.
He was engaged in pretty clear criminal conduct and two
thousand and seven doesn't appear to have stopped him, right,
So if it did, then great our justice system worked.
He took the plea in seven, repented of his bad ways,
and was a righteous man afterwards. I hope that's what

(11:21):
we find out, right, but I don't think the people
believe that. And part of the reason they don't believe
that is people like Pambondi held up things that made
us feel like that's different. And look, I'm on financial
services in foreign affairs.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I went to business school, not law school.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
But I want justice and accountability and I think that's
what my constituents want and they want an answer for it.
And I think, look, we should be cautionary about saying, oh,
I want a list.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I don't want a list.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I don't want another excuse for you to not be
able to present stuff at trial.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I want people that did evil things.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
To be prosecuted and go to jail, according to reports,
according to Alex Acosta in twenty oh seven twenty oh eight,
the US attorney in South East Florida, he said there
were hundreds of girls, maybe as many as a thousand
teenage girls sexually trafficked for the benefit directly indirectly of
Jeffrey Epstein and Gasline Maxwell. Maxwell. The female also had

(12:13):
sex with these girls in Epstein. I like to know
who give me the names of those who committed crime,
if someone's names in a list, because like, you know,
they got all these pictures of Donald Trump and his
lovely wife with Epstein and Gslaine Maxwell, and they knew
each other, they ran around together. Hell, there's a million
pictures of the Trumpster with all kinds of people. I

(12:36):
guess there's a thousand pictures of you with a whole
bunch of people over the last ten years. Now, upon
somber reflection, he said, I wish I hadn't taken a
picture with that guy. But nonetheless I don't know who
they are, but they were buddies. They ran around together
until about fifteen years ago. So who were the men
who were the shall I say, perpetrators of the trafficking

(12:57):
scheme of the p Diddy of Palm Beach? And that's
Jeffrey Epstein and Gizlaine Maxwell. I guess this morning is
being is being interviewed by Todd Blanche, Deputy in charge
of the Department of Justice. I don't need to know
somebody told somebody on some five oh one c four
someone did this, someone played golf. I like to know

(13:20):
that thousands of men who committed rape against teenage girls
and we were promised that would happen. Can you sense
my frustration?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean, look, I think that's Look a lot of
times when I go into a meeting, I'll just prefasit
by saying, look, if my constituents could get this meeting,
what would they say? And since I'm here on their behalf.
Here's what I think I need to say to you.
And you know, some of it's pretty intense and pretty
blunt and not as polished as a lot of people
that are used to hearing from members of Congress. But like,
I think that's what's on the heart of a lot

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of people. And look back in O seven, when alex
Acosta was trying to go after Etnie, he was sort
of told it, like, hey, work out a plea deal
because this guy's Intel involved.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
They didn't say which Intel. People agree he probably wasn't
self employed.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean, I'm not saying he was on payroll for
somebody else, but he wasn't self directed in the idea
of what he was setting up. He didn't accumulate all
this stuff just because he was a brilliant investor.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Right, So you look at it and go, well.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
If he was affiliated with any Intel service in the world, well,
where's the accountability for that? Because I think people would
rather an Intel service go after the pedophiles than run
a pedophile ring.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Now I masade see, but go back a little. Alex
Acosta was told by those above him and above him
or Bush forty three, and Alberto Gonzali's I think that
who's above a US attorney. It's the it's the Department
of Justice in the White House. And they said that
Jeffrey Epstein was Intel involved. Well, did he register as

(14:55):
a foreign agent? That's a crime. I don't think so.
And then I'm told that when he got with a
fifteen month sentenced in Dade County, after thirty days of incarceration,
he was given a work release. So he left us
seven o'clock in the morning, went to his mansion in
Palm Beach, did whatever he liked to do, and went
back at night, and he starved his sentence.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
He was released, then kept doing the same crap.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And I'm thinking, how is it possible we have the
p didity of our times getting away with this stuff
over the Bush administration, then the Obama administration, then the
Trump administration, then the Biden administration, now back to the
Trump administration, and we were promised answers and they're not
being delivered.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's the concern there.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
And honestly, I think a lot of people are like, Okay, great,
get the Justice Department doing what they're doing, and then
you know, The other big story of the summer is,
you know, Donald Trump still doesn't have his team confirmed.
The Senate is sticking around, but it's like, are you
going to get the people confirmed or not? And if
you're not going to process these folks and let them
get his team, I mean we're you know, twenty five

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percent through the administration already confirm the basic appointees.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
We have agencies that we're trying to work.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
With in Congress where you have career staff, but they
can't really weigh in on what the policy should or
shouldn't be. They're waiting for the political appointee to get
in place. So it's a way to slow walk us
right in policy making to do it. And the Senate
shouldn't go along with this. If they're not going to
get support from Democrat obstructionists, they should just adjourn and

(16:27):
then let President Trump do recess appointments. Either way, I'm
fine with just get the team in place.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, the truth will set us free. A US senator
told me that everything in their power that the Senate Democrats,
especially Chuck Schumer, are slow walking everything, demanding debates, demanding
eighteen hours of debate on some assistant director of the
EPA and that they want to sew as much chaos
as possible. Then blame Donald Trump for the non execution

(16:55):
of his policies that he promised when they're the ones
in charge of the obstruction, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's a look, I get it. They don't
like what we're trying to do. They didn't accidentally do
all this stuff. I mean, you look at the border.
The cartels were making thirteen billion dollars a year trafficking
people across the southern border. Now Donald Trump has essentially
taken that away from them, thirteen billion dollars a year.

(17:21):
Obviously you're not happy about it. And not all that money,
you know, was just staying in Saneloa, Mexico. Some of
that flowed elsewhere and we're looking into that. Where did
Act Blue money come from? Where did some of this
other money come to? So not just the money from
all this slush funds, with the you know Stacy Abrams
of the world getting two billion dollars for a fake nonprofits,

(17:42):
the crazy numbers of billions of dollars that went to
Ukraine that can't really be accounted for. The Democrats were
moving this money everywhere, and they don't want us to
get our people in place to be able to track
all that and provide accountability for and.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Almost all scandals. If you follow the money, you'll get
your answer. And when Stacy abrons and Georgia receives about
two billion dollars to help with insulation of Georgia homes
and buying refrigerators, so much billions of dollars are slashing
around funding left doing democratic causes. It is somewhat disgusting.
But once again, Congressman Warren Davidson, good to catch up

(18:16):
with you. Keep hope alive and when you return in September,
hopefully more good stuff will happen. And Congressman have a
great summer. And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Thank you, Yeah, thanks a can't wait to get back
home in Ohio.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
And God bless you and all your listeners. God bless America.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Let's continue with more and if a line becomes available
five one, three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand, and I'm
gonna deal more with this on the other side. After
one o'clock today, we've scheduled to have on the President
of the FOP, Jay McDonald, about the shooting of those
three police officers about twenty five miles west of Cleveland.
All at your home of the Reds News Radio seven

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hundred WLW HI Billy Cunningham, the Great America. After one
o'clock today will be the Ohio FOP President Jay McDonald
about the three police officers shot in Illyria, which is
about twenty five miles west of Cleveland. To get an
update on their condition and also the reasons this transpired.

(19:14):
From media accounts, two officers, officers Gail and Wagner, simply
look for a quiet place out of the way in
a light industrial area on a dead end little street,
eat a pizza, and they just happened to run into
a twenty eight year old assassin, a murderer who wanted

(19:34):
to kill police officers. He's described as a white male,
and he had explosive devices in his car. Wrong place,
wrong time for these officers. He simply wanted a quiet
moment lunchtime about one o'clock, and he opened fire on them,
and another officer, Brent Payne, responded to assist them. Officer

(19:54):
needs assistance. Now he arrives a gunfire's exchange. The eight
year old, cold blooded murderer is dead. Thank God. And
now at least two of the three officers are clinging
to life, and we hope somehow, against all odds, that
they survive. Will see what happens. Hey, they were shot
with a rifle, so we'll see what happens down the road.

(20:18):
We wish them well. That's after one o'clock today, But
until then, the Hulk Hogan dead at the age of
seventy one, whether it was Rocky in nineteen eighty two,
or the Hulk Hogan sex tape with bud Abubba the
love Sponges Wife, or WrestleMania thirty one or his matches
Andre the Giant that still holds the old time record

(20:39):
in wrestling thirty three million people watched. That was WrestleMania three.
It was the biggest thing in the world at the
time and he ushered wrestling from the dark ages to
where it is today. One brief story about the Hulkster
aka Terry Balira. He often appeared at Riverfront Coliseum and
because of my association at that point with Rustling, I

(21:00):
did ring announcing and I would go in the middle
of the ring and announce who's coming up next and
jump out of the ring. Charlie Lucan was the mayor,
and so a couple of days before Pete Rose got
a hold of me, had to be eighty eight or
eighty nine, and he asked me if his son ty
wanted to meet the Holkster, and I said, well, I

(21:22):
think I can set it up. So I got a
hold of Pat Patterson, who was a rustler but also
kind of like the den mother of the group. He
travels around the Midwest, and so I said, Pat, Pete
Rose would like to meet hul Cogan. He said, up,
I'm sure, I'm sure Terry would love to do that.
I said, okay, So we set up a meeting with
Tye and Pete and I brought my son, Evan Cunningham

(21:44):
with me. And on the wall of my son's home
is a great picture of yours, truly, my son hul Cogan,
Pete Rose, and Pete Rose's son tie. They're beaming before
a big match at Riverfront Coliseum, and the two of
them sat down for a while. I just had one
hell of a conversation about pro wrestling and baseball back

(22:08):
and forth, and U of course, Pete talked about his
days in spring training and plant City and Tampa and
things like that, and the match begins and we had
a little pow wow ahead of time, and Pete Rose
and Tyver in the front row. I think the yid
Man and Gary Burbank also was present. There's a good
photo of me, Gary uh and yid Man announcing on

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the radio. I talked to Randy Michaels into doing live
broadcasts on the radio. And before the match, Pat Patterson
got together and said, hey, we like to do something
with the mayor. And he didn't know Charlie Luken from
The Man in the Moon. So I got a hold
of Charlie in the arena, came back underneath, and the
deal was going to be this that I'd be announcing.

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The big matchup was going to be hot Rod Roddy
Roddy Piper against Hulk Hogan, and we wanted the mayor.
Pat Patterson said, could the mayor come with some sort
of proclamation declaring a Hulk Hogan Day in the City
of Cincinnati, And I said, well, I got to talk
to Brendan Cole, the chief of staff. I would think

(23:13):
we could do that, but I don't know. So I
talked to Chaz. He dummies up a quick Hulk Hogan day,
and so the matches are ongoing, the big matches, Hulkster
versus Rowdy Roddy Piper Alstin known as Roderick G. Toombs
by the way, I represented him legally on other matters,
and he was gonna I was going to be in

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the ring introducing Charlie Luken. Then he was going to
go through the process of reading this proclamation and near
the end at some point Haulkster would come out to
the chairs of the crowd going nuts and uh. Then
after he gave him the proclamation that this is Hulk
Hogan Day in the city. Just as that's going on,

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Roddy Roddy Piper will come down the ramp into the
ring head first he colecock uh, me the Mayor and
Hulk Hogan and then tear up the proclamation and then
the bell would be sounded and the matches on. I'm
going okay, let me get this straight. I'm announcing six matches.
The last one's the big one that the headliner, and

(24:15):
I'm gonna go out there and I'm going to produce
the Hulks or play the music.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yep, that's it.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
And then Charlie is going to be called up he's
gonna be He'll be introduced. Yes, that's it, and then
Charlie will read the proclamation.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Hulks is going to be standing there posing, and then
at some point near the end, here comes hot Rod
down the ring, unbeknownst to all of us that are
standing with our backs to the entry point, and he
was going'll be some crowd reaction, but it's going to
be loud anyway. Then he's gonna cole Cock the Hulkster
in the back of the head. And then we I said,
I don't want to get hit, and Luken said, look,
don't hit me. I don't want So we were gonna

(24:49):
like scatter and the matches on. Okay, so the other
matches are taking place. I can recall Jimmy Supervilice Snooker
was there. I think Haystacks Calhoun was in his uh
maybe his son, a big fat guy. He wasn't Haystack
some other fact. Anyway, they were five or six matches.
So at the right time, I'm announced that we have
a special announcement, a special person as present today. Please
welcome the Mayor of Cincinnati, Charles J.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Lucan.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
The booze rained down from seventeen thousand fans. But I said,
calm down, calm down. We got a special proclamation. So
then Charlie reads about four or five sentences, where is
and where is Hulk Hogan has done this for charities?
And where is and where is? He's a everyry chance?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
And where is?

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Where is?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
And at some point near the end hit the music.
Here comes to Hulkster and he comes in going nuts,
got his hand up to his ear. He's going crazy.
At this point we got the pictures taking Pete Rose
and tied there in the front row. So near the
end of this proclamation, our backs to do the ramp
here runs down, Roddy Roddy Piper jumps into the ring.

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Cole Cox Hulk Hogan. He's knocked down. He goes over,
picks up the proclamation, spits on it, tears it up
in little pieces. Me and Charlie exit the mat and
the and the matches. I forget who won, Probably hulk Hogan.
Probably at that point he was winning all of his matches.
And I'm laughing. Pete's laughing, going crazy. He loved the

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pictures with Terry. And about a week later I get
a call from Pat Patterson who's the wrestling. He was
the den mother that kept an eye on all the wrestlers.
So I said, okay, what's going on? He said, well, look,
can I ask a favor? I said, well, Pat, what
would you like? He said, would you get ahold of
the mayor again? Terry would like to have a nice

(26:35):
looking copy or maybe the original of the proclamation declaring
that day Hulk Hogan Day. So I got a hold
of Brendan call and I said, of course. So they
got something together. It looked great. It was on a
big proclamation, had gold on it at a blue backing
And the next time the Hulkser came to town, Charlie
and others in the dressing room gave that pictures taken

(26:59):
and that was Cogan and we will not see his
like again because he was the one that was the
face of wrestling. He went back and forth in his life.
He went from the WWF became the WWE went the
World Championship, Wrestling was on TBS for a while, did
everything he could. And if you knew Terry and you
were around Tampa, he was always available for children to

(27:21):
help out other causes and seemingly earlier today passed away
in a heart attack or some other function. But he's
on my mount rushmore of wrestling. I have hul Cogan,
I have of course Rick Flair, I have Rod Randy
the matra Man Savage, and I have Andre the Giant.

(27:42):
Those are my four. Now today there's another forge say
all that kind of stuff. But as far as the
foundation of wrestling, from Darken to arenas like O'Hara like
Haro Arena, or maybe maybe some other smaller place in
Lima to the prime time, it was the Hulkster that
was the bridge, the gap between the old time wrestling

(28:02):
and their way wrestling is today. So we wish is
so well, hopefully in the hands of God and the
way we go, but we will never see his like again.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Secondly, we have coming up Jay McDonald to talk about
these officers, about what's happening. I listen to Mike Allen Sr.
I call him Allen the Greater and Alan the Lesser.
Mike Allen Jr. Talk about with Ken Kober about the
reality of law enforcement in the city of Cincinnati today
or throughout the try state. Why somebody who has an

(28:33):
APODO license wants to be in the city is beyond me.
You'd be much better off in Independence, or in Florence
or in Madeira, or deputy sheriff, much better off working
with Richard K. Jones or Charmaine McGuffey and being on
the main streets of Cincinnati. And the problem is that
this is the worst generation of parenting we've ever had.

(28:54):
Every generation it gets worse, and right now we're at
the bottom. It's metastasized. The idea of taking miscreant youth
running around the city, hundreds of kids and putting them
in a rec center may take another month to figure
that one out as almost a non starter because he's
rec center so supposed to be there to let kids
in inner city communities enjoy going swimming, playing a little basketball,

(29:18):
a little baseball, maybe a little touch football, to get
out of the circumstances in which their parent or parents
of the society has placed them. Now to add into
that mix individuals that are, let's face it, breaking the law,
I don't know if that's a good idea or not.
Ken Kober doesn't think it's a good idea. And by
the way, how does that work if there's three to
five hundred kids on the banks of the High River

(29:43):
or in some cases in the city of Blue Ash
doing a red, white and Blue bash, or maybe in
an OTR or in Mount Auburn. You mean to tell
me you're going to pick out two or three or
four with a police officer or two for each to
get them off the site and transp for them to
a rec center, then try to notify the parents. But

(30:03):
what happens if the kids quickly discover if I don't
give out my name, and if I don't give out
my parents' name or phone number, nothing's going to happen.
They figure that out quite quite quickly. They're going to say,
you know what, I I'm not going to give you
my mom's name, my grandmother's name. I'm not going to
do it, I'll mean. And so then what do you do.
You can't take them to twenty twenty Auburn, which is

(30:24):
JUVI detention. They're packed. You can't arrest them. You could
arrest them, but then what happens. Then you got to
take them. You got to arrest them, site them to court.
Then you got to leave the scene to go and
do that procedure through a clerk's office downtown. To me,
it's an insoluble difficulty if something serious happens, sure you
can do it, but in reality, to enforce curfew violations

(30:48):
or truancy laws is nowhere to go. It's a nice idea.
It looks good on paper, doesn't it. If you're under sixteen,
you got to be you got to be off the
streets by ten o'clock if you're over, if you're sixteen
or seventeen, gonna be off streets by by midnight. But
normally is a good parent, that's a given. Of course
you are, we know where you are. It doesn't work

(31:10):
that way, and so it's an insoluble problem. If you
kick the can down the road. And this may be
somewhat controversial, but most of city council members are well
intended people fighting with an intractable problem without a good solution,
and they simply get together, meet special sessions.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Do this, do that.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's gonna have no impact. What does have impact is
when serious crime is committed. To take the wrongdoers off
the streets, take them off the streets. Big article in
the inquiry. But Judge Carrie Bloom is back at it
again and the FOP the cops won her Juvenile court.
Judge Carrie Bloom off basically all their cases. They don't
trust her to make good decisions about criminals. These aren't

(31:50):
curfew violators. This isn't some sixteen year old smoking pot.
This is somebody shooting another teenager in the.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Back of the head.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
These are thefts and heisting of a motor vehicles. Serious crime,
and the assumable court system does not deal well with
serious crime, much less something like a curfew or a
truancy violation that's almost like a ticket. That's like bad parenting.
I'd be embarrassed. The cops are constantly calling me saying,

(32:18):
your son or daughter is again fourteen blocks away from
your home on Vine Street at one o'clock in the morning.
That's a problem. It's not good, but nonetheless terrible parenting
or no parenting. This functional culture that applauds the wrong
kinds of things and criticizes the right kind of things,
and the idea that those adults on city council have

(32:41):
largely their hands are tied to correct the difficulty because
the police are the last line of defense between civilization
and anarchy, and large parts of major cities in this
country are in anarchy. Not exactly having a good time
because it's hot and it's summertime, and we've got another
what five weeks until school, maybe about three to four weeks.

(33:05):
School starts around the twentieth of August in most places,
but even then things don't get any better. Held twenty
five percent of the kids in the urban area don't
attend school on a given day anyway. Now, what do
you do well you deal with the consequences of serious
criminal felonies. If there would be an announcement by the
prosecutor's office and by the court system that we're gonna

(33:26):
have heavy bonds and when you commit serious crime, you're
going to go to jail, that would be a good start.
I don't see that happening anytime soon. Ultimately, it's up
to the voters. That will be up to you. You
vote in November for all the members of council. You
vote in November for all the judges. A lot of
them are on the ballot. Find out who they are
and if they're not doing their job. Half are doing

(33:46):
their job and half are not doing their job. And
if they're not doing the job, kick them the hell
out of office. Let's continue with more. Say two, now,
we have an update from northern Ohio from j McDonald
of the Ohio FOP about what happened to those police
officers in Ilaria and how was it possible. Normally when
these things transpire, an assassin, a murderer lures police to

(34:10):
a scene to kill them. In this case, it appears
not to be the case. Something else happened. Bill Cunningham
with you every day. You're home of the Reds News
Radio seven hundred Wow. Bill Cunningham. The Great American Reds
Baseball course off today and then over the weekend Friday,

(34:33):
Saturday and Sunday. A lot of action to take advantage of,
but with deep sadness. A couple of days ago, there
were three police officers shot in the community about twenty
five to thirty miles west of Cleveland. The officer's names
or Officer Peter Gale and Officer Phil Wagner, Officer Brent Payne.
Joanan you and I now is Jane McDonald. He's the
president of the Ohio FOP. And first of all, Jay,

(34:55):
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And can he
give us the facts that gave rise to the shooting
just kind of let the American people know how this
thing developed.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Well, a couple officers decided to buy a pizza and
share it for lunch, and they parked their cruisers next
to each other on a road inside an unimproved industrial park,
so that means there was roads there, but no buildings,
no people, no businesses, and they were just trying to
get a little break from the data to enjoy a

(35:25):
meal with each other when they were fired upon an
ambush style from a coward with a high powered rifle,
and then the third officer was shot and wounded responding
to their calls for help.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
As far as the officers themselves, how is it possible
that this twenty eight year old assassin knew they were
going to be there? How was the happenstance that the
officers show up and this twenty eight year old white
male who's now dead, fortunately, it just happened to be there.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Do you have information on that?

Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
I think we need to let the investigation play out
and we'll find out the whys and how this happened,
how they came to be in the same place. But
what we do know is that these officers were not
responding to a call for service. They were not trying
to arrest anybody. They were simply shot and gravely wounded

(36:26):
because they chose to serve the public as a law
enforcement officer.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
In this particular assass And what did he have in
his possession? I see some reports out of the Cleveland
plane dealer they had an arsenal of weapons with them.
Can you explain what kind of weaponry the assassin had?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Well, we know that the chief of police said that
they used the chief in Lorraine, so they used the
high powered rifle, and that he had an arsenal. I
also know that his car was it contained explosives that
they had to detonate to render it safe. So he
was prepared to reak mayhem on the city of Lorraine

(37:05):
and on the Lorraine police department.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Is there any motivation? I look at what's happening.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Sometimes normally when officers are lord to the scene, many
times their death or injury. There was a nine to
one to one call and someone said, Okay, let's lure
them here. Just a happenstance of this is going to
be a lengthy investigation. Do we know much about the
twenty eight year old I see his name. I'm not
going to talk about his name. Do we know anything
about his history? At this point, I do not.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
I do not, but I'm sure the Illyria Police Department,
who's leading the investigation, will get to the bottom of
this and we'll find out why this coward decided that
he was going to ambush an attempt to kill Braves.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
Law Enforcement Office Jay McDonald.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
As far as this in general, you have a wider
perspective than just Lorraine and I look online. According to
the police chief there, this is the first first major
shooting of police officer and seventy years.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
It is not a common event whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
But do you sense in Ohio and Midwest there's just
a lack of respect, don't pay attention. I see YouTube
videos constantly about police simply wanted to get someone's driver's
license and proof of insurance. There's a battle underway in Cincinnati.
We're going through a terrible crime wave, and I often
have on Ken Kober or Dan Hills to talk about

(38:25):
what's happened the past twenty years. I think we have
the worst generation of parents in American history right now,
but that's a different issue. Do you do you have
a sense from the Ohio perspective there's more of this
kinds of disrespect for law and order beat up cops.
So we had a demonstration a few days ago in
which some individuals wanted to shut down this suspension bridge,

(38:47):
which is a state highway between Ohio and Kentucky. They
thought they had the right simply to march on the
pavement of a suspension bridge, then got in fights with
police and things of that. Did you have a sense
there's something different today than say, twenty years ago.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Absolutely. I'm approaching my thirty second year in law enforcement
and is much different today than it was when I
first started. And it's not limited to Lorraine or northeast
Ohio or Cincinnati in southwest Ohio. In fact, on Sunday
in Cleveland to Cleveland Metropolitan Housing Authority officer was shot
in the line of duty. We added three more names

(39:23):
to the list of officers shot in the line of
duty from Lorraine. But we all know what happened in
May with Deputy Larry Henderson and Deputy Daniel Weston Sheer
in Morrow County. An officer shot in various other locations
across the state of Ohio, and through the end of June,
there's been one hundred and sixty six law enforcement officer

(39:46):
shot across the country. So we know that the violence
right is rising against law enforcement, and we know that
what's needed is action. We appreciate the well wishes and
the and the condolence is when one of our members dies,
but what we need now is action. And our members,
quite frankly, are sick of hearing about thoughts and prayers.

(40:08):
We want mayors and politicians and prosecutors and judges to
do the right thing. And the right thing is to
stand with cops and to support law enforcement, and to
link arms with the cops and with the general public
who support the police. To put it into this because
enough is enough.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Jay McDonald.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Cincinnati's down about one hundred and fifty to two hundred cops.
Is that similar in the other large cities in Ohio
or basically every department having difficulty and retaining officers and
getting them on the streets. This is after the defund
the police movement, which had some success four or five
years ago. Still today is the problem is shortage of officers, politics, judges,

(40:49):
what is it?

Speaker 5 (40:50):
It's everything. The other major cities are down hundreds of officers.
Smaller cities are down a couple officers, and that's a
big deal. If you're down three officers and you're from
a sixty man department. Three officers is a big deal.
It is politicians and community leaders who allow a narrative
that the police are the cause for all the world's problems.

(41:11):
It's judges who don't set strong veils to keep their
community safe. It's prosecutors who don't put away career violent
criminals criminals and allow them toplete out to charges that
don't reflect the seriousness of their crimes. It's all of
those things, and it's a you know, there's some things
that we can do about it. We can start enforcing

(41:32):
the laws we already have, right and we can also
pass some new laws in Congress. There's a law pending
called the Protect and Serve Act, and it has it
has you know, eighty some co sponsors, including from our state,
several of our representatives. But you know who's not on

(41:53):
that list. Taylor Baby, Jordan Ladda Davidson, Captor Turner, Brown, Sykes,
and Joyce. So in that group spans the list from
the left to the right. And this law would provide
a federal penalty for those who bring violence to the cops.
All of those people need to get on the stick.
And do the right thing in the case.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Locally, you may have followed this, but we had a
young man who was in the business of stealing cars,
and he had just turned eighteen years old, and he'd
stolen a car from Edgewood, Kentucky, which, as you may know,
is about ten miles south of the river, along with
his friends. His name Jarrell Austin and Anthony Bullocks and
Sincere Grigsby and others. Ryan Hinton was the one who

(42:40):
was eventually killed there. And they're in Cincinnati, which is
a small geographic area. We're gonna have more than two
thousand cars stolen this year in the city of Cincinnati.
We're gonna have twenty thousand shots fired this year in
the city of Cincinnati. We're gonna have about four to
five hundred people wounded in the city of Cincinnati. We're

(43:00):
gonna have seventy to ninety people murdered in the city
of Cincinnati. And so what happened here is when it
was determined that these four individuals there was a tracker
on the vehicle was located in East Price Hilt. Officers
show up at the scene and within about six seconds
it goes from a rather minor investigation of a car

(43:20):
theft to a life and death situation where the recently
turned eighteen year old Ryan Hinton had a gun in
his hand, jumps out of the car, takes about four
steps running. The other three were like jack rabbits running
in the woods. Ryan Hinton drops the gun. He turns around,
looks there's several police officers there.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
He picks up the gun.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
He picked up the gun in the car to leave,
drops the gun, picks it up again, runs between two dumpsters,
and a police officer from CPD was there and he
fired and shot five times, killing Ryan Hinton in possession
of a gun. So the next day, his father, thirty
eight year old name was Rodney Hinton, took it upon

(44:07):
himself to seek out a police officer in uniform and
to kill him at the UC graduation ceremony. And in
this case, Larry Henderson was in duty deputy sheriff. And
on the videotape you can see that Rodney Hinton, the father,
wanted to avenge He calls it the murder of his
son at the hands of a police officer. Of course

(44:30):
this was a different agency, but nonetheless he found somebody
in uniform. He waited for traffic to clear, he lined
up his car to the body of Deputy Sheriff Larry Henderson,
took off of a high rate of speed and murdered
him in cold blood on a Friday afternoon at the
UC commencement. And now when he was arrested, he justified

(44:51):
it by saying, you take one of ours, we take
one of yours. And when a fund was put together
to raise money for his defense and care, that being
Rodney Hinton, more than one hundred thousand people, more than
one hundred thousand dollars, more than two thousand people stood
up and said, we want to help Rodney Hinton, who

(45:12):
on video murdered a police officer.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Your comments, yeah, quite frankly, that's disgusting. And the FOP
played played the lead role in getting those taken off
of gofund me, but we were unsuccessful in removing those
appeals from gibson Go, which is a separate funding platform.
Here's the story. When we have a complete disrespect for

(45:35):
law enforcement, that means that they do not feel the
need to listen to lawful commands, they do not feel
the need to comply with lawful commands, and that escalates
the situation and they turn around and blame it on
the cops when the cops are doing their job as
they are trained to do and protecting their community where

(45:56):
they live and work and raise their own families. And
then to raise this to an unheard of level with
a flat out assassination of Deputy Larry Henderson. I was
glad to see the Hamilton County prosecutor seek the death
penalty and I support that decision, and I support the
Larry Henderson Act from from Representatives Abrams and Plumber, both

(46:18):
former law enforcement officers, that say, the only penalty that
you can get for killing the law enforcement officers either
the death penalty or life without parole. That's an appropriate action.
We need to pass that bill and the governor needs
to sign it.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Well, we'll see what happens, but these are difficult times,
and it begins with law enforcement. I always say, Jay,
there's three legs of a stool of justice. One are
police officers, two are prosecutors, and three are judges. You
can have cops arresting the wrongdoer, but if prosecutors reduce
the charges and if judges don't provide sentencing to these individuals,

(46:54):
they're back on the street. We had a case here
about two weeks ago in which a magistrate released an
eighteen year old who shot a fourteen year old in
the back of the head. The fourteen year old lived,
but that eighteen year old's now out on bond, running
around the streets to Cincinnati, and this is crazy.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Well, well, it's not following the law. We passed, the
constitutional amendment that said judges are supposed to take into
account public safety when set in bail. How about that
was overwhelmingly past that and the FOP strongly supported it.
And judges need to do the right thing and they
need to keep public safety at the forefront when they're

(47:32):
setting bail. There's just no iff hands or butts about it.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
You know, we get the community we deserve, and I
think as citizens who we deserve better. But police are
often demoralized. Prosecutors believe everyone belongs to out on bond
because they're not and guilty yet. But the other thing
is they have to consider community safety. And thirdly, there
are just just many judges that don't want to send

(47:55):
somebody to prison and then you're back on the streets immediately.
Patrick Herringer was murdered by Mordecai Black walking around OTR
with a butcher knife in his hands. He should never
have gotten out of prison. When he got out of prison,
he violated parole and he simply walked around OTR with
a butcher knife, killing Patrick Herringer committing other offenses. Well,

(48:15):
j McDonald, President, FOP, we got to run, but thanks
for going on the Bill Cunningham Show. And we have
hopes that maybe officers Gail, Wagner and Payne can recover
against all indications that they're mortally wounded. But we'll see
what happens down the road. And j McDonald, once again,
thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And

(48:35):
sadly we may have to do it again. Thank you, Jay,
thank you, God bless you. Let's continue with more and
we'll see what happens down the road. And imagine you're
one of the individuals donating money to the care and
defense of a murderer of a police officer. Bill Cunningham
with you every day. You're home of the Reds News
Radio seven hundred ww.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
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They realize that when I get Andrea, the giant sends
up in the launch position. When I slam him through
the Trump Plaza brother from New York down to Tampa, Florida.
The fault line is gonna break off, and is Andrea
Giant falls into the ocean. As my next two opponents

(49:19):
falled in the ocean, Florida ten him, so will Donald
Trump and all the whole comaniacs. But as Donald Trump
hangs home to the top of the Trump Plaza with
his family under his other arm, as they sink to
the bottom of us, say thank god, Donald Trump's.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
A hawk commniac. He'll know enough to let.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
Go of his materialistic possessions, hang on to the life
and kids dog paddle with his life all the way
to safety. But Donald, if something happens, you run out
of gas, you know, all those little hulk of maniacs
run out of gas.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Just hang on to the largest back in the world,
and our dog paddle.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
Us backstruck all the safety.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
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Speaker 3 (50:03):
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Bite for your Life segment Willie. As we know WWE
icon the Hulkster, Hulk Hogan passing away today at the
age of seventy one.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Of natural causes. We just watched a little news conference
in Tampa and the police chief says, indications are it's
a natural cause.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
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WWE's first major star six times WWE champ and inducted
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The nWo in its prime was incredible, unbelievable as the
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Speaker 1 (52:04):
Side and known as one of the greatest professional wrestlers
of all time? Is he on the Mount Rushmore Pro Wrestling?

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
How about Rick Flair? Yes? How about Macho Man? I
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Still don't ask for whom the bells toll segment. They
toll for the Hawks, the Terry Bellerra and Willie. We
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now now?

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Always, by the way, did Pam talk about the move
with Ron Truce to Kenwood?

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Had no comment? You might recall Tom Weed Muma's hair.
I think the negotiations have dropped.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Really Yeah, they're over with correct, so they might stay
in Green Township.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
They're staying in Tons yellow and maybe possibly nil money
from Tony Rosie. How just they drive through window? Walt Sweeney?
Wally's Sweeney to you? What about having a drive through wind?
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Would you spend your time just going through every ten
minutesters driving in circles?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
It's coming through Bengals update Willie brought to by good Spear.
It's in Party Town with thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky.
Day two of training camp is over with. And uh,
let's see a lot of sickness today. Somebody hurt? What
about justin fields? Josh Newton went down, threw up? What time?
Miles Murphy cramping carted off on a carted off and

(54:17):
by the trainers with an IV need some magnesium. A
lot of heat related issues today. T Higgins, Oh, came
out of the workout with about forty minutes to go,
saw some trainers. They were stretching him out with a
lower leg and foot. Oh he did not return.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Oh, no, t Higgins out. But he'll be our Johnny
bench Higg there'll be, he'll be will be out.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
He'll be all right. Come on, Trey Hendrickson, his holdout
continues in the day two of camp. What about Shamsha?
There's nothing nothing. Why doesn't he come play football? Make
twenty four million? And I tell that agent, do you
know what I'm going in to play? Let's see? Reports
are the Football League? We have four new markets. The

(55:03):
UFL have four new markets this year. They're dumping Michigan, Houston, Memphis,
and Birmingham. They're all going to be relocated. Two of
those teams. One of them's headed to maybe Columbus. Really
they got a team of Columbus, a pro team in Kentucky,
Lexicon in higher state of pro team. I would say, so,

(55:24):
how much do they spend on football? Twenty to thirty mil?
I bet that's just for the quarterback. Let's see, also, Willie,
what have we got here? All the Reds have the
day off today. They open up a home stand tomorrow
night against those Tampa Bay Rays and Hunter Green rehab
started for the Arizona Complex League tossed two scoreless innings

(55:45):
last night, A hit struck out four.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Well, you know, Terry Balira, the haulkster is from Tampa.
Will there be a moment of silence. Tomorrow night, I
would say so. At the Great American Ballpark, I would
hope that they would do that. Yes, across baseball, I hope.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Man, Well, you know what, why don't the Trumpster get
on national TV and talk about the haulkster flags and
a half staff. I would say so, I would do it.
The baseball trade deadline is next week. C. Trent Rosecrans
of The Athletic reports the Reds have an interest in
trading and bringing back former Red a Huanio Suarez. Em

(56:23):
should have let him go. Isn't he leading the league
at home runs? He leading the league in RBIs he's
got thirty six dingers?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
He wants to be here, doesn't he? I would say so,
how about third base? We needed some. I don't know
who's playing third base? Do you have any idea?

Speaker 1 (56:36):
What is playing third base? I don't know. He throws
it over to who. Let's get Jose, Let's get him
back here. Let's see.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
I'll be a good.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
All right day.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
Hello, Hello you goodvines only I say Goodbye's on the
ding day.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Nice to see you again, man, you look good. Nice
to see you. Not as good as you? There you go,
Jim Day's pretty funny University of Cincinnati outfield or Land
and Vitterack will He has signed with the Dodgers and
also Lesawa High School grad Devin Taylor, taken into draft
has signed with the Athletics. Little League Baseball. They're underway
with Ted McKay and the Ohio State Championship game Hamilton

(57:15):
West West Side Leeds New Albany now eleven to four
in the game. Late Now what else? Oh? How about
this MLS? The All Stars beat Lega MX and the
All Star Game last night inner Miami star Messi faces
a possible league suspension for their match Saturday against FC Cincinnati.
What happened? He missed the All Star Game and you

(57:38):
have to miss the next game? How big would that be?

Speaker 4 (57:42):
With them?

Speaker 1 (57:42):
They whipped him last week three zil so they're heavy
and the big m may not be in there tomorrow
Miami without Messi. Also Cincinnati opened presented by John Barrett
next month. Cincinnati's Katie McNally, along with Venus William, first
to receive wild cards for the tournament.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Didn't you just want a match for the first time
of a seventy four year old you know who?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
She beat Peyton Sterns of Cincinnati. What the tournament? Yes?

Speaker 7 (58:11):
What?

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah, she's forty five years old. She just got engaged. Good.
Hopefully the woman deserves to living long in a productive life.
Let's see what else is going on here? Oh, let's
see there's a movie. There's a song about Venus Venus
if you will remember that song? Yeah. A world record
is going to be set at Belterra Park on Saturday.

(58:32):
Will he what is it? Seventy one year old jockey
Perry Oots and the fifth race at Belterra Park. Yeah,
is going to establish a new world record for starts
in thoroughbred horse racing. Fifty three thousand, five hundred and
seventy nine. What what fifty three thousand, five hundred and

(58:54):
seventy nine, he said, fifty three thousand races bingo, He
will pass the number established by retired to California based
writer Russell Bayze. Who It's then you spent a lot
of time at Latonia and I think so, oh he's
been been I think he's been around here all the time.
Well how about that?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
It's her way for a long time. So Oots gonna
get him in ended up Batteriots Potato Chip Company in
New York? Is that that's the same guy. No a
ut Z, different guy. Let's see what else is going
on here?

Speaker 1 (59:29):
You're just flummis.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
You have Pete Rose in the Wrestling Hall of Fame,
Donald Trump and the Wrestling Hall of Fame, right, Hulk
Hogan and the Wrestling Hall of Fame twice, Roddy Roddy
Piper in the Wrestling Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Correct, Andre the Giant in the Wrestling Hall of Fame,
and me and Gene Oaklan in the hall. What are
they all? I think the j J y D's and
their two jun dogs in there, and classy Freddie Blasty
the Hollywood fashion play. But say they're all dead? What
about Bruno, Sam Martino dead, the Chic dead, Dick the
Bruiser dead. They're all dead? You're talking about? You talking

(01:00:01):
about some wild matches in heaven. He got action right there, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
In a real match, I would take Andre the Giant
with anyone. Would you agree? He beat him? The Hawks
are slammed him before the match. I've seen the interview.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Twenty four inch pythons, take your vitamins. Haulkster wasn't sure
if Andre was gonna let him win, and all the
the Hulk of maniacs out there, Willie. All Andre would
do is just kind of grown a little bit and
not really acknowledge George the Animal Steeler or Kamala the

(01:00:38):
Ugandan Giant.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
She lost the election, by the way, I think so,
but it was always concerned whether Andrea the Giant would
permit somebody to win. He was better looking than she was.
But say, those are classic matches right there. I'm telling
you another Hall of Fame. Well, I think Summer Slam's
coming up. They will probably have a major tribute to
the Haulkster. How is it possible he put him on

(01:01:01):
the map that Pete Rose can get in the wrestling
Hall of Fame but not in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
There's mysteries all over the world, Willy, I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
And isn't Baseball honoring Randy the macho man Savage or
some sort of bobblehead the Reds they got some kind
of doll out Now is the man Karen Krapt like
the Well, he was a Reds minor leaguer, right, he's
got the connection, right, How big would a macho man
bobblehead be?

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
Well, I think it's a doll. Well, you know what
they ought to do. What they ought to do is
put one into booth because we we did have the
wrestling motif in there until the macho man got to
hold everything and tore everything in pieces. That faithful day
and Riverfront Stadium. Now Marty and Joe were not happy

(01:01:48):
with the macho man going. They recalled the missus Shots
office and this is Steve Shots. Don't worry, March, I'll
protect you, she said, looked over at him and says,
sit down on Steven, shut up. How did Marty take
the tongue lashing? I think it might have been the
other way around, if I'm not too How did Joe

(01:02:10):
if I remember bite, Joe was probably the same way.
Joe probably wanted to, you know, crash through the crash
through her desk. I always thought though that Joe Knuxall
had a special relationship with Marge Shot. Well, I think
they liked each other very much. So, but I mean,
you know, I mean the you know, so that was
that fateful day at Riverfront stand with a macho many

(01:02:33):
in the booth. Well, we had a we had a
life sized stand up of the Hawlkstree tore it into
pieces in the booth, and the place went berserk in
the booth. Yes, and Marge was not a fan of progress.
He was in purple, and they thought, well, he's a
fan of Elder maybe why not just saying like a
purple Poulay the Purple poola restaurant in Newport. Forgot about that?

(01:02:57):
Could the macho man go to the Purple Poula and
where purple?

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
If he was still around, he probably would be Bobby.
He'd probably go to dinner with you, get some and
he'd have to pay. What how about this? What got
a text here from uh Bootsie Collins? Oh what inviting
us down to the music festival? I like to go
a little bit warm? What's he saying here? Get Bobo

(01:03:23):
Brazil from the Hall of Fay and go to go
against Andre the Giant. You like Bobo Brazil? Bootsie Collins
likes Bobo. Remember that we that's him? Remember Remember that
night we did but we did that, We did the
show down there at the coliseum back then with Burbank.

(01:03:43):
Bobo Brazil walks into the room we're sitting in, remember,
and he thinks we're the massusus. You and I are
the he says, I'm here for my massage. I said,
I said, what huh? He wanted to me in the massage?

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
His lag muscles to Bobo Brazil what ahead he had
on them all? But Bootsie Collins is a fan of
Bobo Brazil. Well that's good. He thinks Bobo could beat
Andre Git. Bootsie in here, get him in here, say
get me out of the stud's report, please, Bobo Brazil
and Bootsie Collins.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Now there's a duo right there, Willie and Otter of
the Haulkster. We leave you with the immortal words of
the Stoog Report.

Speaker 7 (01:04:21):
So all you criminals, all you low life, all you scumbags,
all you truck dealers, and all you crooked politicians need
to answer one question. Brother, what you're gonna do when
Donald Trump and all the trump a maniacs run wild
on you?

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Brother, I'll make him like this. Bless you and thank you,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Paul Cogan bingo seven hundred WLW, how about that Billy
cunning him? Well, all I can say is here we
go again. I'm watching all the cable news networks right now,

(01:05:10):
and they're all a twitter about what's going to happen
after Todd Blanche may Or may not give a statement
about his meeting. I guess personally with the deputy turning
jeral United States with Layne Maxwell to discuss what she
knows about these rich and famous people who use the
services of the teenage girls coerced to be there by

(01:05:33):
Jeffrey Epstein, and how it ends. It's not going to end.
It'll never end, because it's politically beneficial for many to
continue to attack Donald Trump based upon Gslaine Maxwell and
Jeffrey Epstein because of the pictures, and of course there
are many now that Donald said, I've had no connection
with him for about fifteen years when I kicked him
out of mar A Lago because of his proclivity to

(01:05:57):
bring in teenage girls and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Insult the staff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Nonetheless, let's go back in time just a little bit
about Maxwell and Epstein to several administrations. This began, believe
it or not, under Bush forty three, with Alberto Gonzales
as the Attorney general. She The first trial was in
twenty oh five, the second one in twenty oh eight,

(01:06:20):
and eventually Jeffrey Epstein was convicted by the United States
Department and Justice for sex trafficking of girls now even
twenty almost twenty years ago. Guess what, that's a major charge.
It carries up to life imprisonment. One of an adult
traffic's teenage girls for benefits of one or another and
takes them across state lines. That's a diddy kind of

(01:06:43):
a situation, right, Well, this is what happened. There's a
US attorney in Miami, Florida named Alex Acosta, and he
was asked why he gave a sweetheart deal to Jeffrey Epstein.
And at that point Maxwell was not involved in those charge.
She was involved factually but not legally, and he made

(01:07:04):
the statement that that's above my pay grade. They wanted
these charges to be reduced. So imagine like P Ditty,
for example, doing similar things to at least many of
the girls with P. Diddy or adults. But many of
the girls of Jeffrey Epstein were a miners, teenage girls
recruited by Maxwell. But nonetheless I regress. So according to Acosta,

(01:07:30):
this is the Senate approved US attorney in Miami, Florida
said that the uppers, those above my pay grade, wanted
this result. The only two people above his pay grade
were a Bush forty three and the attorney General Alberto
Gonzal is only two people when you're a US attorney
in a district, that's it. Those are the two people

(01:07:52):
above your pay grade. And so is it possible that
Bush forty three or Gonzale were somehow involved. I find
that difficult to believe. But it was reported at the
time that he was an intelligence asset, that being Jeffrey Epstein.
That meant whether Masad of course he's Jewish, and or

(01:08:16):
America use Jeffrey Epstein for intelligence of one type or another.
What it meant I have no idea, but that's the excuse.
He received something like eighteen months in a local jail,
but he was given after thirty days work release, which
is somewhat common if you have a job and you
want to go work and you're serving a sentence and

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then leave in the morning come back at night. That
generally is okay. But in Jeffrey Epstein's case, he was
convicted of trafficking, trafficking underage girls and he gets work release.
So he would leave the county jail every morning about
seven o'clock and then what he would do is go
to his mansion in Palm Beach and do whatever he

(01:09:00):
did and then go back at night, just like he
was working at home depot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
How's that possible, Well it's not. It's like sex trafficking
of girls, hundreds of girls, and you're get work. Release.
Well it happened. So then when he gets out by
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
His relationship with Islaine Maxwell started in the nineteen eighties
and early nineteen nineties, going on for a long time.
Even though she was married. He introduced Maxwell as his
main girlfriend. They developed an enterprise in which he used
his power and influence, maybe through intelligence communities, to gather
information about those he comes in contact with, including members

(01:09:42):
of the British royal family, and some of the names
I'll mention the names in Wikipedia because they're there and involved,
like Bill Clinton and attorney Alan Dershowitz, that was his attorney.
But it was proven that Alan Dershowitz never had sex
with teenage girls. But nonetheless, PRIs Andrew and many other

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billionaires in New York City, and so when he was
released out of Miami, he had homes on an Island
and the Virgin Islands, had a home in Palm Beach, Florida,
and also one in Manhattan. He went back to his
what he knew which is making money, a lot of
money representing billionaires without, by the way, a college degree. Normally,

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if you're in Manhattan and you're a New Yorker, you
have access to the best and brightest financial minds in
the world through Wharton, Yale, Harvard, Stafford, whatever it might be.
This guy did not have a college degree, but nonetheless
he hobbednob with the rich and famous. So then stories
began to percolate again. Number One, he violated all terms

(01:10:47):
of his probation, and he was never violated the clients
that I've represented at a federal court, if you violate
the terms of your probation, they come and get you,
not Jeffrey Epstein. So, beginning with Bush forty three and
then for the eight years of Barack Hussein Obama, he
violated terms of his probation. Investigations were conducted. It was

(01:11:09):
known that he was still trafficking underage girls for benefits.
It was rumored, not yet proven, he had videotapes that
he used to blackmail various important rich men, I guess
in some women in order to get information out of them.
So he couldn't be prosecutor so the megaworld believed, and
I'm going to update this to twenty twenty five quickly.

(01:11:30):
The mega world believed that once the Donald and Pam
Bonte got access to all these secret records, after a
few months they had become public. In February, Pam Bonty
released all these documents to the so called podcasters that
would indicate all this extra information. It turned out to
be a nothing burger. So that case continuing now today,

(01:11:52):
I'm watching, I'm watching in front of me. There's a
congressional subpoena now out which is going to take the deposition,
of course under oath. If that means anything to just
Laine Maxwell about knowledge she has about the number of
men participating this event. Seemingly it was not Donald Trump,
because if it was, over the last four years, Biden

(01:12:17):
and Mary Garland had no shyness whatsoever about indicting a
previous president. The FEDS indicted him in Washington and in
Florida for mishandling the classified documents, and they have no
problem doing that. And they couldn't find evidence of Donald
Trump's involvement, but lots of other guys might have been involved.
So let's go back a little bit now to twenty thirteen.

(01:12:37):
Twenty fourteen in office of course is Eric Holder and
later Loretta Lynch, and then also of course Barack Hussein Obama.
As all the investigations of Jeffrey Epstein continued, and there
were referrals back and forth to Maine Justice about what
do we do now with this guy? And he came back.
There was no response, don't do anything, let him alone.

(01:13:00):
It began under Bush forty three, continued for eight years
under Barack Hussein Obama. Seemingly nothing came of that, but
the Clinton's involved the other Democratic or Republican big shots
I think very likely, don't know. Then, of course the
Donald takes over for four years, and if the Donald
had culpability, seemingly it wasn't a parent to Maxwell herself

(01:13:24):
or to Jeffrey Epstein, who hanged himself in August of
twenty nineteen. And Maxwell was finally arrested, found in some
home in New Hampshire, and put on trial in twenty
twenty one. So this whole time, the Department of Justice
from Bush forty three, for those eight years, through eight

(01:13:45):
years of Obama, through four years of the Trumpster, then
four years of Biden had how many twenty years of
available information about the other people involved in this, and
no one proceeded to name any of those other men.
I assume they're men, maybe a few women, not sure.
But if the names are out there, Republican and Democrat,

(01:14:07):
maybe it's mutually assured destruction. You don't put out these names.
We won't indict these guys back and forth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Then in twenty twenty one, push came to chef and
in twenty twenty one, who was in the White House,
who was the Attorney General? Well it was Joe Biden,
who had no clue what he was doing at any point.
But nonetheless Mary Garland and DOJ Main Justice knew exactly
what they were doing. And so they put on trial
Gislaine Maxwell on sex trafficking charges carrying up to life imprisonment.

(01:14:41):
And at that time the Maine Justice said to Maxwell
and Maxwell's attorneys, obviously, like in any other case, if
you have information that would be helpful to us in
holding those accountable who were engaged in these enterprises, it
would be quite helpful for your case. And months and

(01:15:05):
months went by and Maxwell was very well represented, and
she came forth with no evidence, nothing to save herself.
The odds of her being found not guilty, I think
were largely non existent. Would you agree. It'd be like
P Diddy that I'm amazed he was found not guilty

(01:15:25):
of a few things. But this is a little different circumstances.
So she was charged with six federal crimes, including enticement
of minors, sex, traffic of children, in perjury. The indictment
alleged conduct between nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety seven
that she assisted, facilitated, and contributed to the abuse of
minor girls, despite knowing that one of the three unnamed

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victims was fourteen years old. She was held in bond
for a five million dollar bond, and then bond was revoked,
and she had every capability for a year in and a
half to come forward and say, you know what, I
don't want to go to prison for the rest of
my life. She eventually got by the way twenty years.

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And she's sixty four years old now, so twenty year
sentence is essentially a life sentence for her. She had
every availability to come forward to deal out of the
deck aces kings and queens, and she did.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Not do it, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
So she went to trial, weeks long trial and she
was convicted, she could have received as much as life imprisonment,
but she received, in front of US District Court Judge
Allison Nathan, only only twenty years in jail, which means
you have to serve eighteen and a half years. Her
outdate is when she's eighty some years old. And the

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trial went on and on and on, and eventually she
was convicted, and then between conviction and sentencing was another
twelve weeks. And in that time, her lawyers and she
had the ability to come forward and say these are
the people, this is the evidence, the so called quote
client list, and she failed to do so. Alan Dershowitz

(01:17:06):
wrote a column in The Wall Street Journal on which
he said, and he was the attorney for Jeffrey Epstein,
that there is no list, and all the videotapes don't
amount to hella beans. There were videotapes of surveillance of
property zoned by Jeffrey Epstein, and there are no videotapes
of these teenage girls having sex with rich and famous men.
That's out of the mouth of Alan Dershowitz and Maxwell

(01:17:29):
chose not to testify, and she didn't, and now here
we are, but four years later, back to Donald Trump,
and there was a pool of money one hundred and
fifty million dollars selling the Epstein assets that were special
master was appointed and any girl who's now a woman

(01:17:49):
would come forward and claim that she was victimized by
Maxwell and Epstein, and about one hundred and twenty five
million dollars was parceled out to the victims of Maxwell
and Epstein. So, now pushing forward to today today, Todd Blanche,
Deputy Attorney General, also the private attorney for Donald Trump.
You might recall in those New York City courtrooms he

(01:18:11):
was sitting on the left. Todd Blanche met today this
morning with Maxwell herself in federal prison. And now according
to the Congress, they've issued a subpoena for Maxwell to
testify in August to the committee. And now Maxwell's attorneys,

(01:18:31):
and they're well heeled attorneys, won a deal deal for
Maxwell to testify in twenty twenty five when she failed
to do so repeatedly over the many years. But she said,
I didn't have necessary information other than what you have already.
Are you following all this? It's to me, it is

(01:18:52):
simply simply amazing. So what comes of it? The media
wants to pin the tail again on Donald Trump because
his policies have been so successful the media wants to
knock him down to Peger two and that Donald has said, look,
release whatever you can release. Of course, the federal courts
are not going to release grand jury testimony because they can't.

(01:19:15):
It's against the law for them to do so. But
that's a small part of the whole puzzle. According to
one source that there's ten thousand pages of information available
to be released. Most of the information is heavily reducted,
so at the end of the day there'll be no resolution.
And Maxwell, if she gets a pardon from Donald Trump,

(01:19:36):
then all hell's going to break loose again because this
matter will never end. Well, let's continue. We'll see what
happens later today in August. There's going to be a
big deposition with Maxwell, who's now sixty four years old,
and she has information to provide. I would assume she
would have provided it over the years when she was

(01:19:57):
in the jackpot herself before she was sentenced to twenty
years in prison for trafficking of miners.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
To twenty six. Homer Reds News Radio seven hundred WW