7-25-25 Bill Cunningham Show

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Welcome this Friday afternoon in
the tries did of course. Reds Baseball kicks off tonight
out of Van Sunday with Tampa in town. I think
it would be appropriate for the Reds to commemorate the
passing of an icon in sports entertainment, that being the
Halke of Mania Hawk Cogan going loose. I can imagine
on the scoreboards all over my ballpark, the Great American

(00:29):
to have the Hawkster up there would be unbelievable. But
there is one man who's an expert on all things,
HAULK Hogan. Kurt of Bardella is with News Nation and
I've seen him the last few days talk about the
Haulk Hogan and what Terry Blair actually meant to the
American people. And to get Kurt Bardella ready for this interview,
Tony Bender hit the walk up.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Music, Realer side for the rice of every man, a Realmerican.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
What's right?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Sign on your side?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Hold on, Kurt, hit the music.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Tony John's crashing down and it hurts inside.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You gotta take a stand, don't ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh my god, You're welcome, right.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I can't side.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I am love Makay All right, Kurt Bardella News Nation contributor,
Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Kurt, when you
hear those kind of tunes, what memories flood into your
mind about the Holster.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
I mean, I am immediately transported to, you know, the
nineteen eighties, the six seven eight year old version of
myself that used to jump out of my count was
watching hul Cogan on Saturday Morning ZO back in the
day when we only had a few channels, not ninety
thousand different options and choose from back in the day

(02:12):
before we had internet and social media and all the
things that pollute our day.

Speaker 7 (02:17):
To day lives.

Speaker 6 (02:19):
You know, it was a respite from the real world
to disappear into the world of professional wrestling and to
cheer on a larger than life superhero like Hulkogan.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Now let's talk about the bridge, because when I think
someone like Michael Jordan, maybe it began with Bird and
with Magic and then Michael. There was a bridge between
old time NBA and then the new NBA. Many times
in football you might talk about some of the players,
Tom Brady in two thousand, Tom Brady in twenty twenty four,

(02:48):
the bridge, Babe Ruth who took baseball from nineteen twenty
nineteen nineteen with the White Sox scandal all the way
to more or less a different era of baseball. What
was hul Cogan the bridge called truly professional wrestling. He
was in the comics, he was in the movies, books
written about him, and you walk on any talk show
in the world and perform described the bridge aspect of

(03:12):
hull Cogan.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Yeah, you know, when hul Coching it really came around.
It was at a time where wrestling was really a regional,
you know game. It wasn't national. There wasn't a single
unifying promotion that dominated everything. There were all these territories
and each territory kind of had its own star that
worked that region. And along came hul Cogan and what
was then known as the World Wrestling Federation now is WWE.

(03:36):
Uh you know, had a different vision of having a
national promotion, having uh, you know, national cable syndication, having
broadcast TV presidence with NBC, you know, intertwining with pop culture,
with with the upstart cable channel known as MTV. And
that's really what hull Cogan did. He ushered in the

(03:57):
era of from professional wrestling who truly sports entertainment, and
it's why they were able to do things like have
Cindy Lauper and Muhammad Aldi at WrestleMania one in nineteen
eighty five. You know, it's why he was on the
cover Sports Illustrated and on the Johnny Carson Show, like
he was the first wrestler to ever host Saturday Night Live.

(04:18):
You know, he made wrestling mainstream. He made wrestling cool.
He made people feel like it was okay to say, yeah,
elefant of wrestling, rather than what it used to be
because oh, you like that weird thing, that fake thing
that you know, you know, it's all not real.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
You know.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
He changed the game, and in a way that Michael
Jordan elevated basketball and the way that you know, figures
of the eighties like Madonna, you know, and Michael Jackson
elevated music. Hall Covin elevated wrestling.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
RNCA twenty twenty four was the last big public appearance
of the Halkster, and because of the kind of man
he was, he wasn't shy about expressing his opinions. Some
of the best things about that convention I remember Hull
Kogan tearing it off and that there's Jady Vance is
from Cincinnati, and there's Donald Trump, jd Vance and hul Cogan.

(05:06):
So each wanted to use the other in a sense
to promote their various causes. But I think with the
Holkster it was heartfelt. The Holkster wasn't a phony. He
didn't like a backup or stack up. This guy was
who he said he was. And now when I hear
the political commentary since his death, it's almost as if
he's become political and you can't reach out, you can't

(05:27):
be in favor of Donald Trump and ailing in half
the country. I've heard when Coach Harball a few days
ago went to the White House and talked about how
awesome it was to walk into the Oval office with
his mom and his dad and his brother, and how
great it was. A reporter said, aren't you legitimatizing? Aren't
you making okay the presidency of Donald Trump? That kind

(05:49):
of question would never have been asked to Barack Husain
Obama or to Joe Biden by the media. But there
was some aspect of hul Cogan that reached in the soul,
especially of young men, is to what you should be,
what you could be? Was it kind of sad that
that even the appearance of Hull Hogan at a convention
or walking into the Oval office is somehow political, and

(06:12):
the coach of the Ravens cannot do such things. Be
the coach of the of the Chargers can't do such
things because it might be perceived as some as inappropriate
to make legitimate the presidency of Donald Trump. How ridiculous
is that?

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah, you know, I really think that. You know, I've
watched a lot of the commentary over the last twenty
four hours about Hogan, and I put this up on
social media. If you have never watched wrestling, if you
never followed ho Cogan, I don't get a crap what
your opinion is about him, you know. And I think
that we need to live in a society and a
culture where it's okay to have heroes, it's okay to

(06:50):
you know, create separation between Paul Hogan, the character that
we grew up with, that that told us to say
our periers and new or vitamins and you know, and
and Hull Cogan's you know, personal political beliefs. It's like
you can hold two things, you know, in your palm.
You can disagree with them about politics, which is your right.
God bless You're right, but you can still appreciate what

(07:12):
he meant to in my case, my childhood. And you
know how he brought and brought in something that I
love very much, which is you know, professional wrestling and
watching it even to this day, I watch it every
Monday and Friday night on TV. And you look at
the broader impact, right, you have people like the rock
people like John Cena, people like Dave Fatista. We don't

(07:33):
have those people in Hollywood making movies doing billion and
dollar box office without hul Cogan and Rocky three, without Hulkgan,
having the TV show on CNT, Thunder and Paradise, without
having all the things that he did, the commercialized wrestling.
And when I think about that convention, it's the same
thing I had when I just heard that theme music
play and transported me back to a different time and place.

(07:56):
Nostalgia is such a powerful thing. And when I saw Hogan,
that's convention, Like that's where I was. I wasn't watching
a political convention anymore. I was watching hul Cogan be
Hull Cogan, and I thought it was awesome and I
was happy that that moment happened and sometimes I think
this is where democrats. I'm speaking as a Democrats, as
someone who advises Democrats, and I said this all the time, stop,

(08:17):
for the love of God, judging everyone and making everything
a zero sum game. Stop trying to cancel everyone. You
know what, people are human, People make mistakes, people learn
from them, they apologize for them, they evolve. Don't judge
someone's entire life by one of their worst moments, because
someday that lens is going to be on you and

(08:37):
you're gonna watch some grace as well, you.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Know, Carl Pardello of News Nation, that's a great comment
you make, because when I watched the media remembrances of
hul Cogan, it's all about did he say the nd word?
Did he have sex with Buba the love Sponge wife
on video, which I guess he did, And how come
he did this? How it's like it all comes down
to a guy in the public eye for a half century.

(09:00):
It comes down to the expression of one word or
the compilation with one Bubba the love Sponge wife, and
that defines everything haul Cogan did. How ridiculous is that?

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (09:12):
I mean personally, I think care less who slept with who?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Anyway?

Speaker 6 (09:16):
I mean really like, can something it else, do whatever
the hell they want. It's not it's not my business, frankly.
And when I think of haul Cogan, I think of
him body slamming Ongary to Giant.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
At WrestleMania Tree.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
You know, I think of him staring down the Ultimate
Warrior in a SkyDome in Toronto WrestleMania six, and then
facing off with Dwayne the Rock Johnson more than a
decade later at WrestleMania eighteen. Like that's what I think
of when I think of haul Cogan.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
You know, the pure wrestling specialist. I think a Tony Bender,
my producer loves and he is not nice things to
say about the Hulkster because he wasn't technically a wrestler.
It didn't have the moves of Kurt Anger. He's a
he was technically he wanted, but Haul Cogan almost couldn't.
He had some like forty surgeries. He had a surgery

(10:03):
in May on his neck. Explain the difference between the
classic wrestler, the Bruno San Martino and the current angle
compared to that to Hull Cogan, who wasn't a wrestler
at all. He didn't have the moves he wasn't technically correct.
Tony Bender's all upset about the praise for hul Cogan.
What would you say about that?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
You know, it's interesting. I want to draw a political
parallel here if I could. The same people who say
Hulk Cogan was a terrible wrestler, they're the same people
who might who remind me of my Democrat friends who go, well,
Donald Trump's not a real politician. It's like, exactly, that's
exactly the point. He was a showman. He was an entertainer.
He understood that the connection that he could make with

(10:42):
an audience emotionally had way more to do with because
he knew the difference between a riskwatch and a wristwack.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
You know, Hogan transcended the business because he understood that
that ring was no different than than P. T. Barnum's
circus ring, and and and that the show that happened
is all about storytelling and using physicality to tell that story.
Now again, and my favorite wrestler of all time has

(11:09):
brought the hitman park the offence of execution. When I
raised technical wrestlers in the.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
History, technically a good wrestler technically, so yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Preture, we'll hopefully appreciate that part right there. But Hogan's showmanship,
his charisma, his ability to tell a story and to
make you believe that he believed what he was saying.
That's where that that's where his power grew, his brand grew.
And that's, by the way, no different than what Donald
Trump was able to successfully do when he came onto
the political stage. You believed that Donald believed his own characters.

(11:40):
Don't get if you will.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yes, he's a character, yes, and Donald he's in Scotland now,
but he believed. And I have on my ex account
a classic photo of hul Cogan with his arms around
me and my son. Pete Rose, manager of the rights
of the time, wanted to get his son ty wanted
to meet haul Cogan. And on my ex account, if
people have the time to go look at Pete Rose, Tye,

(12:04):
my son Evan, me, hul Cogan and a guy named
Johnny I forget his last name, who was the road manager.
And it's a classic photo. And I have on my
ex account Glory Days light the corners of my mind
and it was a simpler time, of better time. And
for those who want to see it, it's my ex
account now lastly off the air, I said Kurt Bardella

(12:24):
of News Nation. You follow this thing about Glaine Maxwell
very well, and the discussions are underway. I want to
know this, Why haven't the names of a I would
assume thousands of men who took advantage of teenage girls
under the tutelage of a pervert at dirt bag Epstein.

(12:46):
How come those names are not out there for the
last ten to fifteen to twenty years. How come we're
negotiating with Maxwell to get the names of these so
called superstars in New York, LA and Hollywood. How come
the names aren't out there are already?

Speaker 6 (13:01):
I think it's life insurance. If you're in if position
were some of the most powerful, influential, rich, famous people,
you have compromising information on them. Well, if you give
that all up, you have no leverage. And as the theory,
as we saw what happened to mister Epstein, tragedy could
befall you at any time. And so, pardon me, has
always thought that holding back some of this was leveraged

(13:23):
to protect her own life, you know, or at least
be in a better position to bargain for perhaps some
leniency or sentencing adjustments later.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
On and no matter what happens that Trump's just going
to be blamed. If she disgorges hundreds of names of
men who committed essentially rape against teenage girls, it's going
to be, well, she's not telling the truth, because after all,
she should have been charged with perjury, and after all,
she's twenty years in prison. He's going to say anything,
And if she doesn't say anything, then it's going to

(13:56):
be to protect Donald Trump. If she does say Trump
was involved in the last fifteen twenty years, she'll be attacked.
If she doesn't say he wasn't he wasn't involved, She'll
be attacked. Either way, she's gonna be attacked. And at
the end of the day, I'm not sure we're gonna
have the answers anyway. I'm uncertain whether we're gonna have
definitive information of the big names out there that are

(14:16):
maybe holding their ears right now, because either way, if
she says what the names are, people aren't gonna believe it.
If she says Trump was involved, people aren't gonna believe it.
If she says Trump was not involved, people aren't gonna
believe it.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
I'd like to know.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
It's amazing after twenty five years on all these customers.
So to speak, we have not one confirmed name of
any man, but we know Gaselaine, Maxwell, and Epstein, and
that's it. One's dead, one's in prison for twenty years.
And at this point, is it a summer scandal that'll
be gone by Labor day?

Speaker 6 (14:46):
I don't think it'll be gone by labor day, just
because you know, even Donald Trump's suing Rupert Murdoch, like
there's gonna be court proceedings at some point, like that,
there will be another life on this. August eleventh is
a date that I keep my eye on. That's when
the Oversight Committee that subpoenaed Maxwell to do a deposition
with them. There's a subpoena just got passed by the

(15:06):
Overside Committee right before they got out of town of
all the Epstein files. So there's just some maneuverability here
in some ways to advance this story and try to
get more information. I agree with you that if all
we have is one person's word about what happened, that's
not going to be enough to satisfy anybody beyond this
or No. There need to be some actual evidence here,

(15:27):
you know, and we'll see where that ends. Up taking us.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
You know, I think that it is.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
This is a case where I think transparency is the
best answer for everybody in board politically, and it's kind
of like put up or shut up. That's kind how
I feel about it.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Well, Kurt Bardell, I'll say there's been a couple of
victims now in their thirties and forties that have been
on MSNBC and none have said Donald Trump I was
involved in the in the sex trafficking, we're having sex
with teenage girls space. If they had that information, it'd
be out right now. But Cart Bardello, one more time,
I want you to listen to this because this is
classic hul Cogan, Tony Bender. Get ready, the real.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Fight for the risome every man, rest in peace, real
American fight.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Who's right?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Your line? Come down with the American flag in heaven above.
Cart Bardello of News Nation, thanks for coming on to
Bill Cunningham. Sure, thank you, Kurt, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 9 (16:30):
Bill.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
God bless you.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
God take a stand, don't ahead you help us? Right
gott A man can't.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Pressed in peace. Terry Blair, you had quite an impact
on the American people. May God bless you and God
bless America. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven WLW by Billy Cunningham.
A special guest is in the studio. Ice Cube is
with me and ice Cube talk first of all about

(17:13):
what's happening tomorrow at at Heritage Bank Arena. You're an entrepreneur,
you do music, you do television, you do movies. You're
kind of like every part of aspect of your life.
What's happening tomorrow about one o'clock at the Heritage Bank Center.

Speaker 10 (17:27):
We got the Big Three in Cincinnati, doors at noon,
you know, starts at one o'clock, and uh, it's great.
Four games for the price of one. Get to see
the entire league, our Hall of Fame coaches. You know,
we got coaches like doctor J. We got Iceman.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
How did you get Julie? How'd that happen? I'm watching
this the other day and I'm thinking, damn yeah, doctor
J Man, I can operate.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Right, I'm on now.

Speaker 10 (17:53):
You know, big fan. We even named our championship trophy
after him. You know, it's the Julius Irvin Doctor J troph.
So Clyde Drexler's our commissioner. You know, they golf buddies
and and you know, once I got Clyde. It was
it was pretty Uh it wasn't easy to convince Doc.
But Doc, you know, he he loved the league. You know,

(18:15):
he started with the ABA and then to the NBA.
So starting something new like this is he ain't afraid
of that. So it's gonna be a great event, man.
You know, like I said, four games, we got teams,
six teams battling with the same record, so they trying
to you know, loosen up that log jam.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
And uh, great entertainment.

Speaker 10 (18:37):
We got dancers, dunkers, DJ's performers, you know. So it's
gonna be a fun event. And look, you'll be out
of there by four four point thirty and get to
go see some good.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Music, said Collins. My buddy and other people like that
will be there. Give me your all time starting five
in the NB. I've watched this all the time. I've
watched the great ones. You've been conducted to basketball since
your early days in LA. Give me the all time
ice the ice cube, starting five.

Speaker 10 (19:04):
Wow, all time. I got magic at point. I'll put
Kobe at the two. I'll put Jordan at the three,
give me Wilt at the four and Shock at the five.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
The Wilt's forgotten about an Oscar big O's forgotten about completely. Yeah,
but those guys, there's unbelievable. When did O'Shane Jackson become
Ice Cube? What I don't mean the name, I mean
the person, because you came out of not bad, not
the best circumstances, Compton, etcetera. N Wa. So when did
when did O'shae become.

Speaker 10 (19:41):
Ice Probably about twelve years old mentally, mentally really, when
I started to do music, you know, I really got
into my own on that. But about twelve years old
I got the name and it stuck with me. And
when I started to rap at fourteen, we told nineteen
eighty three, Yeah, ice Cube was was what I was

(20:03):
known as so and the rest is history.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Pretty much. We're still writing history.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
So right now it's going on as I speak. In
other words, Yes, you're not done yet, not done yet,
you know, mister Cube is not done.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Come on.

Speaker 10 (20:15):
I got an album I'm about to drop called Man Up,
and I got a tour I'm about to do called
the Truth to Power Tour of forty decades of Attitude,
I mean four decades of attitude.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So it's great as far as somebody would say to you,
what are you? I look at your bio. You got
you got kids, you got millions of dollars, billions of dollars.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
You're no no wait, whoa whoa whoa whoa wa.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
You gotta pay not billions, you gotta pay tax.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
A lot of them in California. But what are you?

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Are you a rapper? Are you an entrepreneur? Because I
like the idea that you're spreading out, You're doing it.
You put the work, thousands of people. Explain what you
are today.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
You know, I'm a lot of different titles. You know,
I wear a lot of different hats.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
You know.

Speaker 10 (20:55):
Sometimes I'm the the uh, the managers. Sometimes I'm the janitor.
You know, you know, whatever it takes. You know, it's
really about being an all around entertainer. And this is
show business, so you cannot do the show without knowing
the business.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Then go in other words, a little bit of both.
And I had on earlier. I talked a little bit
about a whole coke and when I think of Hull
Coke and I think of I think a little bit
of an ice cube. Because Hogan went over different genres,
so different things. Yeah, he did everything, and was he
not a role model? But somebody you want to emulate
a little bit.

Speaker 8 (21:30):
He was big.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
I mean, Hulk was big growing up, growing up, you know,
like he was the biggest wrestling I was when it
was the w W F you know, I was a
big you know, Hulk, Hogan, super Fly, Snooker.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
You know, I loved a lot of the wrestling back then.

Speaker 10 (21:47):
So you know, to see him as Hot thunder Lips
and Rocky was cool because I knew him as Hulk.
You know, now he in a movie, so it was
great to see him, you know, become more than just
a wrestler. You know, he took wrestling and made it
really mainstream where you know, everybody could accept it.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
And now look how big it is.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
And I said, who were the When you were a
young guy twelve thirteen, fourteen fifteen, you could not have
envisioned your life the next fo you couldn't have envisioned.
Was there a key person, a key moment that you
saw the life the thor open you ran that was
there a moment a teacher, was somebody the in the
and the hood? Who was it?

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh man?

Speaker 10 (22:26):
It was a lot of different people, you know, you
know from my father, you know, I think about when
you say teachers, I think about.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Uh, missus Prentice.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
In the fifth grade, she encouraged me to write and
you know, she put my little, my little essay in
the school paper. Because of her, I ended up doing
the speech for my for my sixth grade class, which
taught me that I didn't have to be afraid of
the microphone and speaking in front of a lot of people.

(22:57):
And so, you know, misprintices that teacher that really, you
know kind of you know, made me a serious person
and not just kid running around.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
I don't see ice cube as being shy. Correct, So
at some point when you were twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old,
you were microphone shy a little bit.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
Well, you know, you just don't know that you can
speak in front of all those people. And you know
I was able to do it. I wrote my own
speech and my classmates liked it, so you know I
felt like, okay, that gave me the experience to not
to not you know, before that day I was sweating bullets.
You know, I was like, man, I got to get

(23:37):
up here in front of everybody to say this, and
so it just gave me the confidence when you speak.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You know, Cincinnati's got problems right now, and you may
not be aware of this. We got a terrible crime difficulty.
There's no problems a Big three. There's no problems with
the with the music festival, it's been here Santangelo started
forty some years ago. No problems. Yeah, but there's an element,
a small element, causing disproportion and harm. What would you
say to elements in the community that says, you know what,

(24:05):
you got to quit acting like this. You came up
that way, you could have gone the other route.

Speaker 10 (24:09):
Yeah, you know, it's personal decisions. You know, you got
to take personal responsibility for your action. You know, I
knew right from wrong when I was a little, real
little kid. So most real little kids know when they're
doing right and when they're doing wrong. So you guys,
just choose to do the right thing.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
You know.

Speaker 10 (24:26):
Life is beautiful and you don't want to waste it,
and you don't want to throw it away. It's a
gift from from you know, the almighty. So we want
to cherish this life and do the right thing, and
you'll live better and be better.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Ten or fifteen years ago, I did this television show
in New York and there was a thought that I
could become a rapper.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
You can't.

Speaker 10 (24:49):
I can.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
By that and Dave, get ready, I laid down a
couple of lines. So there's nobody knows more about this
business than ice Cube because you do it all. I
know a lot about it, a lot about rapping for
Shure And in fact, you're gonna go on You're gonna
go on tour.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Are you gonna hit Cincinnati or not? I believe so
you're gonna what. We love to have you back do.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
I love to be here.

Speaker 10 (25:09):
When's it gonna be We're starting in September, but you know,
we're gonna always extend it.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
If it's rolling good, we're gonna we're gonna keep it.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Extend because you're you know, it's a show, but it's
a business.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
It's show business for sure, all right.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Dave kind of hit that a little bit and let
ice Cube here some of the lines that I laid down.
This a few years ago. And this was put together
to maybe uh break in the rap a little bit
because the voice of my generation, you know what I'm you.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Know, they need some good rappers.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Let's go with season five about the rapper. There's no
better way to vent my crap after office, floods, blizzards
and mice. We moved to Harlem, which wasn't so nice.
Some nights in bed, all I could hear is put
the cheese and the cracker from ear to ear. They say,
I'm so bulky, But how can that be? I run
a crazy talk show, said, look at me, liars and

(25:56):
cheaters and pimps and hose, DNA drama and cheating, don't
forget the yeldts and everyone's favored me on my knees.
Some days I doubt I can do it again, But
then I see some good looking woman and I can.
Thoughts and coochs and raw dogging and ratchet. Our vocabulary
has truly become fantastic. My teams work all day, work
all night, just to convince some guests they might be

(26:18):
they might want to fight. The guests are real, they
never lie. Who else would sit on set and pretend
to cry. From housewives to hoes, porn stars and strippers,
fake balloons, Barbie and Bieber, kid Rock and Plooney, Stallone
and DeNiro, but let's not forget Pyro my hero with
beds on set, stripper poles and doghouses. One thing's for sure.
I'm never a bore. Production is tough. That's not enough

(26:41):
time to convince all my guests. It's all in our dime.
The expert needs intake. We learned that this season and
guests on the run, they're a mess for a reason.
They throw the chairs, rip weaves from their hair. But
don't forget there's always after care. We try to help,
We really do, but sometimes the guests want to screw
the shoes they wear have six inch heels. All they
want to do is get a free meal. The closer tight,

(27:03):
the lipstick better be bright because if Joyce approves you,
good to go. But if she doesn't, well you know Lakeisha, Lacanda, Lawanda,
La Mama, bottom Bitches, pregnant teams, bad moms, and more.
The best part of all is me and my team,
because without all you, I'd have to scream. We often
say we should write this stuff down, but if we don't,
you all be clowns. I heard the best daff and crew.

(27:23):
That's why I love all of you. I do the five, one, three,
and I play golf at KCC. All right now, yeah,
well do you see something? You see a little I
need a voice of my generation.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
You know what I'm saying, nothing wrong with being voice
your generation. We gotta get you on beat though. You know,
the rhymes were dope. The rhymes was great, but uh,
gotta get you on that beat.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
What's the beat? What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (27:48):
We gotta get you on that. We gotta make it.
We flow that beat? The beat? Yeah yeah, but the.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
Rhymes not bad, not bad. I was surprised and I
thought they were, you know, I didn't know what they expect.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
But now what what do you do?

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I have a future and rap.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Gotta get you on that beat. Man, a few months
with me, you'll be, You'll you'll be.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I I was going to tour the South. I spent
time at backstage of the Apollo.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
Okay, my show was.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
In the Harlem for one season across and I spent
time there and that's where I hooked up with some
of jay Z's guys and they worked with me some
lines to become the voice of my generation. And then
they want to put me on the road. Had to
go into the South.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (28:28):
Man, that's pretty incredible. Yeah, they need to work with
you on that beat though beat? Yeah, yeah, we gotta
rock that beat.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Could you help me?

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Maybe? I can help you, You can help me. Yeah,
I could definitely help you with that, all right.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
So lastly, tell me about tomorrow now, because it isn't
about me and my rap career. It's about Ice. It's
about Ice. Q. Tell me what's happening tomorrow.

Speaker 10 (28:46):
Tomorrow, We're gonna be at a Heritage Bank Arena. Doors
open at noon, first game starts at one.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Tickets available, Play.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
Tickets available, Big three dot com, slash tickets. If you
can't make it out there, to which we hope you can't,
check us out on CBS one o'clock and.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
You'll be at the music Festival. You're gonna perform tonight.

Speaker 10 (29:07):
I'm just come down there and say what's up to
the crowd, try to, you know, hopefully sell some more
tickets and boots.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
He will be there, my buddy, that's my man. You know,
Boosy Is. He's a special guy.

Speaker 8 (29:18):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I did just did a whole thing at the the
Grammy Hall of Fame with him.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
He's in twice. You know, he's in there twice. You
know you know who started him in music with James Brown.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, you know him and his brother Catfish. So
it's good, pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Good to have you in town, but don't come through
without checking in. I got your manager's card, got his
number anytime. Touched with him about laying down.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Some beats anytime. Yeah, Yeah, we know we are rocked
that beat.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Gotta rock to beat, got a rock to beat the words,
the lyrics is right, We got a rock to beat.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
The attitude is right.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Got the attitude? Yeah, ice Cube, you're a great American. Yeah, yeah,
you are too, Bill Cunningham seven hundred w W. Who
knows what the future holds for me? Because rap could
be in my future. Got a text here from Bob
Jones the Plumber. Nice work. You could be the voice
of our generation, Bob Jones, the Plumber. And the answer

(30:13):
is every generation needs a voice. And I'm thinking, look
at the text as I've received on me and my
rap career. It's unbelievable. It is unbelievable that I could
go on the road and rap to become a voice
of my generation. Let's continue, We'll see what curves down
the road. So so far, the canopy of guests that

(30:36):
I've had on Live with Me have been Charlton Heston,
Hulk Hogan, Pete Rose, and ice Cube. Nothing in common
but present, shall we say, a different aspect of American life.
We'll see what happens. He's going to be at the
Music Festival this weekend. Ice Cube's manager gave me his
card I'm holding in my hand. He wants me to

(30:56):
send him a few more lines of mine. Ice Cubes
is going to on the beat. Got to get the beat,
got to get the beat, Gotta get the beat. And
I'm gonna send them my lines. And the manager name
is Ron Mohammet of Cube Vision from Venture Boulevard and Sino, California.
Today it's seven hundred WLW. Tomorrow it could be the

(31:17):
rap world for Willie. I don't know what to say.
It's possible. Is anything possible? Absolutely? So let's continue with more.
Red's baseball kicks off tonight, Tampa's in town, and I
would hope the Reds would do some remembrance of Hulk
Hogan tonight. He had deep connections to Cincinnati and deep
connections to Tampa. The teams in town. Maybe a one

(31:39):
or two minute die tribe of Hulk Hogan and running
around the Great American Ballpark named after me, of course,
would be great. I assume there's tickets available tonight and tomorrow, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday. They're on somewhat of an extended homestand try
to get back into this thing completely. Also, a few
days ago, the inquir did the story on the beer

(32:00):
tunnels in Cincinnati. One of their great reporters laid it down.
We're gonna talk to him in a few minutes about
the hundreds of miles of beer tunnels underneath the river
city and what happens if they all start to collapse.
Let's continue with more one o'clock, Home of your Reds
and the Home of Ice Cube NWA, and more that
would be would be, of course News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati,

(32:31):
Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Of course, Cincinnati has a
long history century old beer tunnels. What the hell's a
beer tunnel? And also the subway system unused. I can
only imagine the effort that bar keeps went in one
hundred and fifty years ago to build these huge beer
tunnels below grade thirty to fifty feet deep. And then
what do you do with the dirt, the mules and

(32:51):
the horses, the bugs and all that kind of stuff.
But Scott Wortman, who's with The Inquirer did a great
story a couple of days ago on the history of
the beer tunnels and Scott, Welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And Scott, first of all, can you tell
us what is a beer tunnel?

Speaker 9 (33:08):
Well, basically, it is like a labyrinth, kind of a cave,
almost a man made cave because they're made out of limestone,
and it's kind of reminder of how difficult everything was
one hundred and fifty years ago. We liked our beer.
We still do, but we really liked our beer in

(33:29):
the nineteenth century, and they had to find a way
to keep it cool, particular if you want to brew
log which requires like forty to fifty degree temperatures. But
there wasn't artificial refrigeration then, so they had to dig underground.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
What did it?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
This is a simple thing, but what do you do
with all the dirt. We're talking about tons and tons
of dirt, thirty to fifty feet deep long tunnels. I'm
looking at this one photo and there's Aaron Denninger, executive
director of the Brewer District Community Urban Redevelopment. It looks
to maybe ten to twelve feet tall, maybe twenty feet wide.
We're talking tons of dirt.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
What do you do with the dirt?

Speaker 9 (34:09):
Sure, I mean, I don't know if there was one
particular use. It does seem like in the nineteenth century
they had to find a use for everything. If you
look at old photos, the hillsides are stript, bare, hardly
any trees. So I imagine they probably found a variety
of uses in building materials. You know that they could

(34:31):
get out of it going down in these tunnels, though
you do see a lot of like piles of dirt, bricks,
metal scrap. I think in some cases they did just
pile it in corners and it's sat there for one
hundred and fifty years. But I mean, I would imagine

(34:54):
they probably did use it for some other building materials
back then.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
As far as the bar keeps, how would you get
the product thirty to fifty feet deep and having built
these huge tunnels to sell beer at five cents a mug,
I can't imagine how much money. We're talking ten cents
maybe a quarter at the most. I looked online, some
of the beer was sold for two cents, four cents,
five cents. The scale of this to put the work

(35:23):
thousands of workers to dig deep beer tunnels, and I
would assume it was it how'd you get the beer
out of the tunnel up to the up to the bar.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Well.

Speaker 9 (35:32):
They had pipes the tunnels well use for the brewing
of the lager beer because they needed a specific temperature
for the yeast to ferment properly. But the and you
can still see them. There are pipes that are in
the limestone bricks that go into the ceiling, so it

(35:55):
was you know, they could pipe it up up through
the ground. A lot of these breweries were right above
the logger tunnels that they had, so the actual getting
the beer out of there wasn't the problem. It was
mostly the digging and creating these massive caves for the

(36:18):
purpose of making beer.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
And Scott Wartman of the inquir This began in the
eighteen fifties and sixties before Abraham Lincoln. About when did
it die out? I guess refrigeration electricity you might had
something to do with it. There was no really use
of electricity in the eighteen fifties. When did it die out?

Speaker 9 (36:36):
They went through all this trouble and really they only
needed them for about thirty or forty years. By the
late nineteenth century, artificial refrigeration became more accessible. It was
evidently like invented and created around the eighteen forties eighteen fifties,
but didn't become really practical for another forty or fifty years.

(36:58):
And then a lot of these just became a band
and in one of the issues because they're underground, and
a lot of times they build them next to natural springs,
so they naturally flood filled with dirt and muck. So
a lot of them just got abandoned and forgotten about.
Some of them, though, were continued to be they continued

(37:20):
to be used as storage. One of them I toured,
and they just reopened it for it because there's a
you can take a tour of some of these that
are safe to go in. Not all of them are safe,
but are the ones that are. They just opened up
a new one in Camp Washington that in the seventies
was turned into a winery. It wasn't a didn't last

(37:42):
for too long, about like ten years or so in
the seventies bro It's Fountain Winery, and they found a
whole bunch of wine bottles and casks down there when
they were rolling up their sleeves and cleaning it out.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
And Scott Wartman. By eighteen eighty nine, Cincinnati was one
of the country's top beer maker. We brewed thirty five
point seven million gallons of beer every year, thirty five
million gallons of beer every year. And after Prohibition, I
think it was nineteen nineteen is when the Constitutional Amendment
was past carry nation, and then I would I assume

(38:17):
maybe it became more valuable than what was the last
time they were like used where they used in the
during the Prohibition era nineteen nineteen nineteen thirty three, where
they fundles used it all.

Speaker 9 (38:26):
Then some of them were like the Bruckman Brewery that
I were just talking about in Camp Washington, they were
one of I think it was three breweries in the
area that continued to operate during Prohibition. They had a
special medicinal license and that kind of kept them afloat,

(38:49):
and they were kind of poised potentially be one of
the bigger what Aaron Dininger with the Brewery Heritage Trail
told me, they could have been sixesful as Anheuser, Bush
and Budweiser, but they didn't invest heavily enough to produce
that much that much beer, so they were kind of

(39:10):
just hanging around for ten years after pro Bish, ten
twenty years after pro Bish and then closed shop. But
most of them they just yeah, they were never used
again and fell into disrepair or were sealed shut. One
of them though, on in Over the Rhine, interestingly enough,
and it's pretty accessible and wasn't It's kind of weathered

(39:34):
the century decently.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
It's been used in movies.

Speaker 9 (39:38):
Actually, they filmed the last one of the last Bruce
Willis movies there, and I think a scene in Carol
was filmed in there, so it had.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Gotten some outside the box use.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
On Union Terminal with Superman, you point out that at
City Hall, at the corner of Plumb and Court Streets,
several loggering sellers sit unused, inaccessible under parking, under parking
lots and restaurants. So what's the what do you do
with them now? Do you do nothing? Do you fill
them in? Do you wait for them to collapse? I

(40:12):
would not want to have my home or my structure
above one of these huge tunnels in which a lagger there.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
What do you do with them?

Speaker 9 (40:22):
Well, I mean they have survived one hundred and fifty years,
so I mean they are pretty they're pretty sturdy and
well built. I mean they used pretty Uh, they got
thick walls, so I think they're I think they're structurally safe.
But that is the big question. That's what they're hoping
to figure out, whether these have any commercial use. The

(40:42):
goal is to map them, get historic landmark designation. Then
that makes them eligible for tax credits. It's expensive though,
I mean anything underground. That's why this since nice subway
has used for over a century, but it has been done.

(41:03):
We have a world class bar that's gotten international at
tension called ghost Baby that opened five years ago in
one of these better preserved loggering sellers on about four
stories under Vine Street and it's gotten international claim and
it's pretty unique experience. And they're hoping for maybe more

(41:27):
ideas like that, or maybe like an underground spa since
a lot of these are binatural springs.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
You know, who knows, but.

Speaker 9 (41:36):
You know they're pretty neat.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I look some of these photos. It's unbelievable. No electricity available.
I would assume lanterns or something maybe coal fired. Ideas
to put light thirty to fifty feet below grade, that
just by itself is unbelievab. How they light the facilities
in order to go down there, and start building. It
would have to be almost like a West Virginia coal miners.

Speaker 9 (42:02):
Well, they've got string lights like you would see in
a mine that are like strung up around the ceiling
and the walls. And there are actually and they couldn't
tell me because they don't know how.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Old they are.

Speaker 9 (42:14):
There does appear to be like these old antique lights
that are still up, which what makes these things so cool.
It's like Indiana Jones a little bit where you see
stuff that was put in, you know, in the eighteen
fifties before Abraham Lincoln's administration. It's still there. But they
do they do have like like you would have with
a cave or with anything. They do have you know,

(42:36):
those type of string lights or construction lights, whatever you
want to call them.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Well, three C DC. If you want to have a
logger tunnel into a business, make it into a business,
be willing to spend some serious money. Of course, three
C D C. Steve Lieper didn't say how much you'd
have to spend. Maybe there's a future underground. Once again,
Scott warrtman of the inchoir, thanks for coming on and
we'll see what this is fascinating. How long the history

(43:03):
of Cincinnati goes back, and it's unbelievable that maybe these tunnels.
I know a council member wants to get them designated,
as you said, to open up new businesses. Of course
they they need elevators because there's got to be uh disabled,
you got to be available to put the disabled in.
You've got to have staircases for interesancis, you need ventilation,

(43:24):
need plumbing, need modern building codes requiring this that means
it's not going to happen. I can't imagine it's compliant
with federal law.

Speaker 9 (43:31):
I can't imagine it's an interesting business model too, because
a ghost baby. They have to limit the number of
people down there. That's why you usually have to like
kind of call ahead and all because I mean fire codes,
and they got to make sure they can't get people
in and out. So now there's a lot of things
you have to consider when you're operating, you know, a
one hundred feet or so underground if you don't have to.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
You know, in a normal business.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I'm not sure that Moeger would go underground one hundred
feet to have a logger beer. Maybe he would, I'm
not sure, But this if somebody's got some money to
put some jack into the deal. Let's see what happens.
But Scott Warman. The story is available at Cincinnati dot
Com Tunnels, Underground Lagger Beer. God knows what's happening down there.
I would imagine in the eighteen sixties when it was
one hundred and ten degrees outside, many people went down

(44:16):
there anyway because it was fifty four degrees.

Speaker 9 (44:19):
But none that it's a nice place to spend the summer.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I'm not sure i'd do it today, but who knows.
Scott Warman, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
and Scott, you're a great American. Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Thanks, Bill, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Well, let's continue with more Bill Cunningham, The Great American
Liveage Home of the Reds News Radio seven hundred WLW.
You know one thing I've noticed about successful Americans They
do different things at different times, in different ways and
good ways. We hope, and I look at all those
I admire, such as I'd never met. Believe it or not,
I've never met ice Cube before. You may find that

(44:52):
hard to believe, but it's true, and we immediately made
that connection. I like the guy. He seems to like
me and the manager. Ron Muhammad has watched many many
episodes of my TV show, as did ice Cube, and
when we met, we hit it off and I think
I might have a future and rap to become the
voice of our generation. I have our Ron Mohammed cube Vision,

(45:16):
a Cube Vision along with his personal cell phone number.
So what I'm going to do over the next few
days his line put a few more line. I'm going
to put some more lines down. And then, as ice
Cube said, all I need is to beat the beat
at the bottom, and I need someone to kind of
work with me on the beat become the voice of

(45:36):
my generation. I could appear in various bowling alleys, nursing homes,
go on tour a little bit, possibly country clubs, and
those between the age of fifty and eighty need someone
to voice in their concerns about the future. And it
isn't necessarily racially based, because when I talked to African Americans,

(45:57):
many of whom are in their fifties and sixties at
the music festival this weekend, well, all of us have
the same concerns about the market, about the society we
leave behind, taxes four oh one k capital gains, CAPEX expenses,
whether or not you can expense certain items or not,
and whether or not social Security benefits is going to
be taxed at a certain level not at some other level.

(46:19):
And so all the things that we're concerned about, should
you lease a car, should you buy a car, should
you pay rent, should you buy a home, those are
the concerns of those in my generation. When you think
about it, if you're between the age of fifty and eighty,
who's the voice of your generation? The answer is, we
don't have one.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Why not me?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I want to wrap about your life to make it better,
to inform you about what's going on. So ice Cube
and I could tour together. He's going to come back
through in September. He's starting another tour. I'm gonna lay
down some lines his productivity, his music people are gonna
lay put the beat beneath beneath my lines. Then I'll
go into maybe some ants classes. I'm not the best

(47:01):
dancer in the world, shall we say, and maybe start
a new career. Halkster haul coke and God bless his
soul was a wrestler. The wrestler became a movie star.
The movie star became a podcaster. The podcaster became an
ad pitchman. The ad pitchman then became a political pundit.
Why not take every aspect of your life and let

(47:23):
it run it out to its logical conclusion. A lot
of my friends are saying from Kenwood Country Club that, yes,
my first appearance might be a Kenwood Country Club rapping
about the concerns of the dues, increases the condition of
the greens, what kind of rough should there be? Sand traps?
And things like that. When I talk to Richard K.

(47:44):
Jones's segment Dennison, who is the voice of their generation,
they don't have one. Why not me let me do this.
It may mean I'll be off the radio a bit more,
but I'm not giving up my day job. But to
tour at night with ice Cube, I'd be crazy not
to do it. And if his his creativity team gets

(48:05):
with me and my inventiveness when it comes to lines,
could be something for the future that looking back, this
will be like Martha Stewart and uh, what's his name,
Snoop Doggie Dog got together. The dog and Martha Stewart
got together. Why not Willie an ice cube? Willie in
the cube? I said, get rid of the ice thing?
Many parts of your community don't like ice anymore. You know,

(48:28):
Immigration and control enforcement. Now get rid of ice. Just
go buy Cube. You are the Cube, and I am
Willie the voice of my generation. Bill Cunningham, News Radio
seven hundred ww oh, Comania two makeup powers being here?

Speaker 7 (48:45):
That Paul Cogan, what is happening?

Speaker 8 (48:48):
Well, you know me, gee, we really don't know what
we're dealing with here, man, if I'm just kind of
a little worried about locking up here because we just
might pull the whole planet up. You know, everybody knows
that whole Commania, it's the strongest force in this universe.
But when I get that ring and I saw what
the madness was all about, I realized there was a

(49:08):
whole other universe out there, a whole other frontier, and
the power of the madness in the media just.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Boom my twenty four inch guns out.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
I mean to tell me there is another solar system.
Much wouldn't believe the long Stone in the state of
shack right now.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
In fact, I don't think them would have been coming
down for a long period of time. Yeah, reckless abandons
what it used to be.

Speaker 8 (49:30):
Yeah, but Elizabeth, don't ped up my eyes and the
big man right here, the big man.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Yeah, he endorsed much of them in this and he
gave me the wrecks and yeah used to be.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
But the Wrexen now with the mega yeah, the mega yeah,
the mega power yeah, mega powers.

Speaker 10 (49:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
I feel the power now, I feel the.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
Power right here.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah, I head over the head botcho man.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Ooh boom man, I'm more right. It never been ma.

Speaker 8 (50:00):
Yeah, don't you worry about the head over the head man,
I'm just worried about what we're going from here. Isn't
this stratosphere, man, isn't the ion fear with the madness
in the media as one guiding force, we could go
ahead and take the.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Whole believe no.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Nice man of that o Maga Lawyers, Oh my madness.
But he had the heavyweight chap, you had the head
the whole comedia.

Speaker 7 (50:32):
Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Gode memories like the corners of my mind. With those
three right there, would you agree they don't make them
like that anymore? Seg man, No mega powers? Will he
right there? Into this the hawkster ionisphere and the madness
of the macho man with the deep reds connection. I'm
gonna talk to Dave Collins. Yave Collins of the Reds
tells me, okay, he's gonna recommend to Karen Craft they

(51:02):
do a macho man and hul Cogan bobblehead in red uniform.
I'm not a bad idea that that would go over
Bags Rose and There're somewhere too. Yep, unbelievable. Andy Mack.
By the way, now you I got a text here, yeah,
from a Rocky boyman Okay, Superstar, super Bowl champ, Radio

(51:26):
and Television Big Man the Rock says that ice Cube
and the Great American were never together and that was
ai that somehow that was created out of nothingness. Rocky said,
that cannot happen. Willie. I'll go in front of the
Supreme Court and Justice Joe and everybody else and raise

(51:46):
my hand.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
You saw it.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
I stood outside this door in iced t ice Cube,
excuse me. Ice Cube, who's in town for his Big
Three basketball tournament, was sitting to my right when I
looked through the window, and you, I and him have
a picture together. So whatever Rock he's thinking, he's wrong.
He's probably drunk. Do you see something? You see a

(52:09):
little I need a voice of my generation.

Speaker 10 (52:12):
You know what I'm saying, nothing wrong with being the
voice your generation. We gotta get you on beat though,
you know, the rhymes were dope. The rhymes was great,
but uh, I get you on that beat, right beat?
What do you mean beat?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
We gotta get you on that. We had to make
it wear flow that beat. Beat? Yeah yeah.

Speaker 10 (52:30):
But the rhymes not bad, not bad. I was surprised,
you know, I thought they were you know, I didn't
know what to expect.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
But now, what what you do?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
I have a future in rap.

Speaker 4 (52:41):
We gotta get you on that beat.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
Man.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
A few months with me, you'll be, You'll be.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
You know, I was going to tour the South. I
spent time at the backstage of the Apollo. Okay, but
my show was in the Harlem for one season across
and I spent time there and that's where I hooked
up with some of the jay Z's guys and they
worked with me some lines to become the voice of
my generation. And then they want to put me on
the road. Had to go into the South.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (53:05):
Man, that's pretty incredible. They need to work with you
on that beata Yeah, yeah, we got to rock that beat.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
So I got the card?

Speaker 5 (53:13):
How is that?

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Ai? How do we do that? Ron Rocky Rockyes, goofy,
he said to me, our cret create creative people will
work hard to create the right kind of beat for
your lines. Right, the guy right, Well, what do you
think I should do? Segment?

Speaker 4 (53:30):
What is something?

Speaker 1 (53:30):
What you need to do is, Willy, you need to
get some lines, maybe one, maybe a few lines, and
a song like about the president Trump Trump Trump Trump right,
talking about tax on all the time, maybe tax on tip,
tax on social see something like that. Then the next

(53:51):
one ought to be like, Mega, make America great again,
great again, great again? Maha. You gotta sit there and
think about that, Maha. Maybe then Mega, you got to
just talk about America. I can do one of your speech,
one of my speeches about teen nineteen nineteen four correct
to all the wars and everything else about golf greens.
So the roughs too high and the greens are too low,

(54:12):
and go. And then the next one, Yeah, ought to
be like talking about the economy. Yeah, e con me everything.
Tariffs are good. I love tariffs. Tariffs are good in
the hood, Tariffs are good. You like that one that's
not bad. I don't think that's pretty good as far
as I know, now you see you're thinking on your
feet for the first time in a while. I may

(54:33):
have to leave the radio for a period of time.
But toward the South with the ice cube, that just
has to be the breaks. Yes, when he was listening
his his team was nodding like it. They can feel it.
I mean, Bob the Plumber, Bob Jones the Plumber says,
I could become the voice of our Then next year
you might be on stage at pay Course Stadium with

(54:54):
Alisia Reese and this food Aincinnati Music Festival, me Bootsy Collins,
Bingo and Cube tell him to get rid of the
ice stuff because he's not gonna get rid of the
Americans don't like ice. An iced tea, iced tea is
gonna be icy te taw enforcement him, no, call him cube, Oh,
I mean iced tea, but iced tea not here. It

(55:17):
was Cube, say tea. Say Cube, don't say Cube, say tea.
We welcome ice. I'm starting to wrap. I'm starting to
think like it, like em and n boy. You know
what I'm saying. The Big Three Tournament is all weekend.
Of course, nothing else is going on on the on
the weekend downtown And I got a text it from
Paul O'Neill Yankee monument. He wants to hear more of

(55:37):
my music. Wow, Paul O'Neill, how about that? And you
could you could they could put that on the Yes
Network and the Yankees just thinking you gotta think outside
the box segment. You got to reinvent yourself every few years. Correct,
you can't have the same You may act and maybe
you make another rap about Joe Burrow, Joe joe Joey B,

(55:57):
Joey B, Joey B, got the beat, got to beat,
Joey beat, got the beat, Burglarye, Joey B, got the
stuff back from Hondurus, Joey B, Joey B and the
rapembernumber one, number ten. He now you're number now, now
number one, just f it's flowing out of me. Se
now you're now, you're see you're You're got the music
and the lyrics like Lennon and McCartney all of a sudden.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Talk to Richard K. Jones. See what he says about
he'll probably provide security. He'll look good in one of
your satin jackets. Well, what about Rob Sanders, give me
some jes What about the law, Well about the all
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(56:41):
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(57:50):
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like that one? We got breaking soccer news? Willye? Of course.
FC Cincinnati, the Eastern Division leading FC Cincinnati is at
Inner Miami CF tomorrow night, six thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

(58:13):
But but the MLS announced today what that. Lionel Messi
and Jordi Alba have been suspended for Inner Miami's match
with FC Cincinnati tomorrow night for skipping the MLS All
Star Game this past Wednesday. So Messi's got a case
of the goo. Messi's got a case of the goo

(58:34):
Goo Goo. See you later. Mess Bengals up and brought
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who's hurt limped off. It looks like those possible calf injury.

(58:57):
He got a CAF like a cow, Like a cow,
Like a CAF cow. Also in the National Football League,
former Lakota West High School standout Jordan Hicks announced his
retirement today on Instagram. Hicks was set to play for
the Cleveland Browns this season, but inducted into the twenty
twenty two Lakota Athletic Hall of Fame twenty twenty four.

(59:19):
Started all twelve games which he played for the Browns.
Jordan Hicks, a good player, announced his retirement. Is he
related to Bill Belichick's girlfriend? Well, Speaking of that, Tom
Brenneman may want to call him at two thirty what
he talked to Belichick yesterday Sports with the interview can't

(59:44):
say you better get better get him on as a
stooge at two thirty. To CBS News, Taledo Rockets have
been selected his favorites to win both the regular season
crown and a Mid American Conference Football Championship game in
twenty twenty five, and the coach's preseason poll. Miami that's
made the appearances and back to back MAC Championship games

(01:00:04):
picked second, the Ohio Bobcats third. Coaches don't know what
they're talking about, so you're going to the sec.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
No, they want to live. They're going like I am.
How about North Carolina? They would get mulled. It's gonna
go to Southeastern Conference. The Bobcats, according to ken Brew,
wants to upgrade their schedule. They start playing upgrade it
all right at Georgia at Alabama L L L L
and L. But they say it's too big. They're too

(01:00:33):
big for the mac Reds open a eight game homestand
to night with the first of three up against os
raised from Tampa Bay. Hey, that might be given Tampa Bay.
Oh Cogan lived there all the day?

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
You like that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
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CHEVROLET xt running show after the. Game in a text
here From Tom, weedman the Controls Sycamore town should be,
said you cracked me up with the ice cube. Stuff
you missed the. Beat Maybe Tracy schwegman AND i can

(01:01:09):
help you with the. Beat isn't the beat like a
radio station or? Something, yeah it's one of it's tarn
T man's in. There why do we get tearing in?
There two point three is the rock in. TODAY i
don't know if he's not in good tran in. Here
maybe we're A i with. Rock he said it was
all bs bs my, ass BUT bs my. Ass it wasn't.
It it WASN'T I. A it WASN'T I. A you

(01:01:31):
know what you could do another rap on people? Here
Something Tom, Brenneman Scott, sloan who's never, here always on.
Vacation andrew you, me, uh what About Lance, Lance, Lance Lances, Prance,
lance And eddie And Rocky eddie And Rocky, Garry, Jeff,
Eddie dan Or harrol get them. All jeff probably don't
forget him in the. Newsroom Jack crumbly super combs about Red, Eye,

(01:01:53):
uh Red Eye. Radio don't get me, STARTED U Matt.
Reese let's see who? Else how about? This danny From
dayton says you could tour airports in their business lounges
for the business traveler to hear the voice of their.
GENERATION i could be At delta's private lounge rapping right
there AT. Cbg you And Jay ratliffe got a text.

(01:02:17):
Here my friend got a text here From Luke. Sweppy
it's only about you know a young man about twenty
two years. Old, yeah he, says you could be the
voice also of our. GENERATION i could spread myself. Out
Luke swepty wants me to rap for those in their,
twenties and wouldn't that be? SOMETHING i got a text
her From Kenny smith From louisville says that you Mean
kenny The Jet smith ON nba ON. Tnt he lives

(01:02:40):
In louisville With. Donald he, says keep your day, job
but reach for the. Stars, well you could be the
Modern casey casem. Look And, burrow love of the In
car sends me this what? EDITOR i didn't Have Bill
cunningham interviewing Ice cube on my bingo card, Today but
that was nice. Work see Bur thank, You. Burl let's

(01:03:02):
to do a story on. This see there you, Go Bootsie,
collins he could be part of your, band he. Said
James brown helped me like Ice cube could help.

Speaker 8 (01:03:14):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Wow m.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Hmm what would your persona be on on? STAGE i
mean like like in a suit or like like a
like An elvis type dress, up like a big belt around.
You i'd have to wear a three piece, suit, OKAY
i mean you know your? Hair oh then wait a,
minute no more super. CUTS i got to get me a.

(01:03:39):
REGULAR i was gonna, say, well you probably have well
you you would probably be worked on like you were
at your television huge, team, right get with his team
and ice, You i'd, say didn't he say in the interview,
yep that he would work with?

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
Me?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah but wait a, minute what about the first? Lady
not sure? This ye're all getting excited, now but she
could she could derail. Things And i'm not. Saying i'm
just kind of music is ALL i can tell. You,
yeah she likes to watch The Catholic. Network i'm not
sure my rapping would fit ON. Tbn i'm just, SAYING

(01:04:17):
i don't want to doubt.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
You get on that, beat. Man if you must with,
Me you'll Be You'll you'll be you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
KNOW i am, saying CAN i move to la for
a few months and do my wrapping? There Bully in
honor of Doctor Tim kremchek on his induction into The
Ohio hall Of Fame class of twenty twenty. Five he
deserves it twenty five plus years for doctor K hollywood

(01:04:46):
of elite orthopedic care for athletes Across ohio and the
nation and the. World Doc hollywood congrats on The Ohio
Athletic hall Of fame class of twenty twenty. Five we
leave you with the immortal words of the Stew.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Report on the Big.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
One you guys got a lot of hot shots, there
but nobody bigger than say ain't that's for sure physically and. Otherwise,
yeah but which hall of fame is he going? IN
i guess it's The Ohio Athletic hall Of. Fame that's,
great but crap? Sets also do any of my knee and?
Backwork IF i have to become more, Limber, well, well

(01:05:25):
you'd have you'd have, people you, know you'd have as
probably three or four massas massuses Like Bobo. Bzil, yeah probably,
blonde brunette and. Redhead what Would penny say about that?
One i'm not sure that would go over. Big you'd
probably have a, couple about six or seven people athletic.
TRAINERS i, need might Have Doc. HOLLYWOOD i need A

(01:05:46):
pips on seven HUNDRED wlw The Pips Billy. Cunningham you,
know last WEEKEND i spent time in Downtown, cincinnati went
to The Purple poula of course for a great. Meal In.
NEWPORT i love to promote small business owners and The

(01:06:09):
Purple pula was. Fabulous after, that my small entourage AND
i went to a, greaters picked up a little bit
of ice, cream walked Through Washington, park spent some. Time
Downtown cincinnati was. Empty there was nobody. There now this
weekend we have the Music festival, happening which Is, Thursday, Friday.
SATURDAY i think they pick up the pieces On. Sunday

(01:06:30):
there'll be one hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand people.
There we have The Big Three tournament with my new
best friend Ice, cube who's going to help me with
my rap. Career they're going to have fifteen to twenty
thousand people for The Big Three tournament In town With
Clyde drexler and all the other. Superstars Starts, Saturday july
twenty six at one o'clock at The Heritage Bank. Center
tickets are available To big three Dot com slash. Tickets

(01:06:54):
in addition to, that you have read S baseball In
town With tampa the hometown Of Hulk, hogan AND i
would imagine in those three, games under the leadership Of
Dave collins And Karen, kraft they're going to have one
hundred thousand people. There so according to The news And Jock.
Crumley it's going to be gridlock incredible. Downtown there won't
be any room to. Move so maybe somebody in charge

(01:07:16):
could actually spread this thing out a little bit to
see one of The reds are in, town and when
can the music festival? Be and and then The Big,
three which is Ice cube AND i have the card
here of some of his creative people to start working
in my rap, career and they're going to be in.
Town and this is the second most popular basketball tournament

(01:07:39):
in the, world well about twice the listenership and viewership
of THE. Wnba and it's because of all the great
doctor j and Clydere, directionler. Etc are going to be,
there And Michael beasley And Nick young And Dwight howard
And George, garvin The iceman cometh all going to be.
There and that's At Heritage Bank. Arena and if you

(01:08:00):
can't attend in, person it's ON Cbs, television which in this,
market of course Is channel. Twelve SO i don't, know
somebody in, charge, guys you, know wait a. Minute one
weekend In, july we have nothing, Happening nobody downtown to.
GO i get throw a ball In fountain square and
not hit a. Pin and now for This, Friday saturday And,
sunday there'll be a quarter of a million. People it'll be.

(01:08:23):
Gridlock if you're going, somewhere you might want to get
there an hour or two, early otherwise you're not going
to make. It so that's the way it is. Now,
secondly for those who THINK i have my tongue planted
firmly in my cheek about a rap, career you're wrong
Because i've always had an affinity for black, music whether

(01:08:44):
it Was Smokey robinson and heard it through the, Grapevine
Marvin gay and The, supremes and my favorite group of
all time is To. Temptations And i've always had affinity
for black music and black, culture WHICH i love as
much As lincoln b WHERE i love black, culture And
i've always gotten along. Greatly it, BEGAN i, guess early

(01:09:05):
in my life when one of one of the leaders
of my life was a, Judge Robert franklin In Lucas
County Common Police court In Lucas, County, Toledo. Ohio one
of his best friend in college At Morehouse college Was
Martin Luther King, junior and the two of them would
spend time In Ebanezer Baptist church told me, stories stories
and more stories about the life and times of with

(01:09:28):
mar WITH mL. King he was known AS mL to his,
friends And Judge franklin spent years with him At Morehouse.
College and it was by the TIME i got To
Judge franklin several years after. M. L king's, death he
told me, story story after story ABOUT. M l And,
coreta et. Cetera and it's, just, uh it was. Wonderful
it was. Great and WHEN i came back wanting to

(01:09:50):
get back. Home you, KNOW i was In, toledo WHICH i,
loved The Glass. City it's the only law school In
ohio that would admit me with my SOMEWHAT c plus
grades And xavier AND i was admitted to go To
Toledo Law. School and after THAT i practiced law Of,
Schnarf schnorf And. Schnorf and then THEREAFTER i made it
back home To, cincinnati and the first INTERVIEW i had

(01:10:13):
was with. B, larson who was running The Public devendor's,
office and she asked me an interview about my history
and WHAT i did in my. Life AND i had
my paper resume there and it wasn't particularly strong except
for the FACT i finished fourth in the state Of
ohio and the bar exam BECAUSE i studied like crazy
make SURE i passed. It and somehow we slid Into

(01:10:33):
Robert franklin AND i Mentioned Martin Luther King, junior and
all of a sudden her eyes lighted, up And you're.
Hired i'd been a federal law, clerk had the, qualifications
but AND i came back home From. Toledo for those
listening In Lucas, COUNTY i lived at twenty four Three,
sheltenham AND i Called Old orchard across the stree From
university Of, toledo AND i would walk to law school at.

(01:10:54):
NIGHT i worked in court from eight am until four,
pm got up about six thirty am every, morning got
down To Lucas County courthouse by eight o'clock every, morning
stayed there at four, o'clock swearing in witnesses or issuing
decisions on minor. Motions the judge had me do, that
AND i would sequest your juries and do. It spent

(01:11:17):
four years in Common police court as a. Bailiff what's
a loss go at night from six to?

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Ten?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
So SHALL i say between seven am and? MIDNIGHT i
was very. Busy so she hired. Me came, here did
a lot of criminal work on those didn't have any,
money and most of those individuals Or African. Americans from,
THAT i had quite an affinity toward that culture and
toward the victims of, crime and also some of the
perpetrators Like Riley london and others that had a two
hundred and ten page criminal. Record and after that JUDGE

(01:11:46):
i went To LESLAS A gains And gains And Gains
attorneys at law spent years or Less gains trying all
the big time cases In. Cincinnati loved that most of
my clients Were African. American when business was, SLOW i
would take the gainsmobile with Less, gains go into the black,
Community blair The, temptations, music the Four, tops. Etc and

(01:12:07):
line up people in the. Gamesmobile you walk in the back.
DOOR i would see the. Clients they'd walk in and
if the money was, right they went to the front
of the. Gainsmobile there was less. GAINS i loved it.
Absolutely from, THAT i went to black churches and spent
some time With Lewis Ferri khan when he came to,
town and that did my. Thing and then years would
pass And i'd start my television show the last year

(01:12:29):
was In, harlem very near The Apollo. Theater most of
my guests Are African american AND i got into that
quite a bit sometime at The, apollo and THEN i started, Thinking,
okay why not start a rap, career why not branch
out a little? Bit and you've heard the two or
three minute THING i, did which was going to begin
my effort to kind of get together the. LYRICS i

(01:12:52):
wasn't so focused on the. BEAT i was focused on the.
LYRICS i needed somebody to work on the, beat and
NOW i got that person in An, ice AND i
have his, Manager Ron muhammad here And Bootsie, collins who
worked with me also a little bit on improving the
beat for my. Line So i'm going to spend the
next week or two putting down some of the lines

(01:13:13):
that may make a good and THEN i need someone
to do the. Beat i'm not much in the. Music Maybe,
terran who's at the beat right here In. Cincinnati and
from THAT i could develop a brand new branch of my,
life which is the voice of my, generation who Are
americans between the ages of fifty and eighty and the
concerns of those group Of, americans, white, black, male, female

(01:13:35):
and otherwise about what our concerns. Are And i've always
been able to speak in a wide, way not so
much of a narrow, cast but a broadcast to. Everyone
and so much like The Hulk hogan who died unexpectedly.
Yesterday he was one thing pro, wrestler but then what
else did he become a movie? Star The rocky movie

(01:13:56):
was On Incredible thunderlips and he was, told don't do.
That it'll lessen your ability in the wrestling world if
you are perceived as being some sort of hack. Actor he, said,
No i'm gonna try. It i'm gonna do, it and
from that he took pro wrestling From saturday morning at
nine o'clock With dick The, Bruiser Cokeo brazil and many,

(01:14:17):
Others Bobo brazil with a cocoa, butt and he transported
it from the nineteen seventies into the twenty twenty five.
Air he spent forty five years in, wrestling up and,
down good and. Bad he was, big he was. Small
when his career was at the, bottom he went to
THE nWo AND, ccw and what he did was change

(01:14:39):
his act, completely become a bad guy and then from
that he went back to becoming a good. Guy he
DID tv, shows he did music, videos he did, movies,
books et. Cetera. Brand he was a. Brand it was
Hul cogan was a. Brand and in the years, AHEAD
i want to Make willie a. Brand of, course you,

(01:15:02):
Know i've done things in my, life most of Which
i'm proud, of some of which are not so proud.
Of but IF i could become the concern about tax on,
tips tax On Social, security four oh one, ks mutual,
funds the length of the rough country, clubs maybe the,
greens fast, greens the slow, greens whether or not someone

(01:15:23):
should be concerned about their, children their, grandchildren whether they
have a generation skipping trust or not do a generation skipping,
trust to Do innovevo's trust or not to have revocable
or irrevocable. Trust why to do a, will why not
to do a? Will custody of any children or? Grandchildren
these are all concerns of my. Generation Fox news for, EXAMPLE, Msnbc, Breitbart.

(01:15:47):
SALON i watch them. ALL i often watch these shows
that you don't have. To so there's a lot to
say about the concerns of those between the ages of
fifty and eighty that are not currently being at and
so that's my goal is to look forward to try
something a little bit different and never give up my day.

(01:16:07):
JOB i love. RADIO a couple of my friends have asked,
me why do you keep doing? THIS i do it
BECAUSE i love doing. IT i enjoy. It it motivates.
Me The People's Judge penny tells, me if you get
up On monday morning or this morning On friday, morning
get up about eight eight, thirty what are you gonna
do all? DAY i, THOUGHT i want to do something.
PRODUCTIVE i want to. HELP i want to assist those

(01:16:29):
so in that vein coming up in about thirty minutes
tonight and tomorrow in Southeastern indiana is a, fabulous fabulous
festival going on put on by The buker and other
families that have spent a long, time a long time
helping citizens In Southeastern indiana's called The Osier Roth. Festival
And i'm gonna have one of their sending on in

(01:16:51):
a little bit to talk about how you can participate in.
That it'd be a good time to go To Southeastern
indiana to do, this, because let's face, it right, now
Downtown cincinnati is going to be a. Mess it's going
to be, unbelievable and so you can check it out
at their, website which is ojerrothfest dot com to find
out what is happening in Southeastern. Iniana so let's take

(01:17:14):
a short. Break But i'm going to try. It AND
i know that many THINK i will fail at becoming
the voice of my. Generation but let's face, it nothing
is ventured if you don't try something. Different and the
idea of me getting into the music world and doing
rap for my generation was thought to be. Impossible if

(01:17:35):
somebody had told me this morning WHEN i got up
at and my modified palacial, estate checked my coy, pond walked,
around checked my mole. Traps by the, way the mole
traps are not. Working if somebody had told ME i
was about to meet a person that would change the
direction of my life as far as, MUSIC i would
have bet against the fact THAT i would spend time

(01:17:57):
With Ice cube afternoon in these. Studios and it. Happened
AND i think it happened for a. REASON i Think
god is directing all of us in one sense or.
Another so in one sense or, another this was. Serendipitous
it was truly unbelievable And it reminds me of the
words of a great man many many years ago who

(01:18:18):
had written many, books Including crime And punishment THAT i enjoyed.
Greatly his name was Dos. Toyevsky you might recall Dos.
TOYEVSKY i Know Dave keaton loves Dos. Toyevsky he was
a nineteenth century not a novelist and a writer in
an Old. Russia that this is going back one hundred
and some. Years one hundred and thirty years. Ago he,

(01:18:39):
said tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people
will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the.
Imbeciles quote, unquote tolerance will reach such a level that
intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not
to offend the, imbeciles quote unquote From Dostoyevsky crime And.

(01:19:01):
Punishment so WHEN i look at, that he's, saying, right,
there be who you, are speak. Out don't be reticent
like t r which, Said he'll never be the lonely
spectator in the stands speaking about how the doer of
deeds could have done things. Better he will never have
comfort with those sitting in the stands criticizing someone committing.

(01:19:24):
Acts the doer of deeds that appear at the first
dance maybe not to be. Normal and SO i don't
want to spend my life in the stands watching other
people doing. Things WHAT i want to do is be the,
participant the, battler The william Of wallace in the middle
of the, arena reaching for greatness at times. FAILING i seek,

(01:19:47):
perfection but every now and THEN i fall short And
i'm simply. Excellent that's WHAT i want to do with.
Rap and whether you're a fan of country or rock
and roll or a popular contemporary, music we're all you
need it and united with the idea that every generation

(01:20:09):
will need someone who can become their. Voice and WHEN
i think of Ice, cube he's the voice of his.
GENERATION i think Of Frank sinatra was the voice of his.
GENERATION i think About Elvis presley was the voice of his,
Generation The, beatles The Rolling, stones Possibly Garth brooks was
the voice of their generation in some. Way and right

(01:20:29):
NOW i think largely we are. Leaderless we don't have
someone in music that speaks to our. Concerns and over
the next few, Weeks i'm going to going to explore
WHETHER i can be that person and, rap And i'm
gonna get with Ice cube and his creative staff down
the road and see if some of the lines could

(01:20:50):
be updated with a little bit of different. MUSIC i
may consult with people Like Alvin rohrer or Maybe Johnny
kraft Or Sean donovan Or John, barrett Maybe Bill, barrett
Maybe Mike, barrett Maybe RICHARD. K, jones Maybe, bootsy Possibly
Rob sanders And Joe dieters And Sharon kennedy And Mike

(01:21:13):
DeWine and some others to see what ELEMENT i can
put into my music that relates to their. Life and
If i'm successful in the, venture so be. It If i'm,
NOT i will never seek comfort in KNOWING i had
a desire to do something great and something, different having
never tried to do it in my. Life when my
days are, done HOPEFULLY i have time on my death

(01:21:35):
bed to reflect. BACK i don't want to have a
book on read or a page. Unturned and by pursuing,
this this began about ten years ago with elements Of
JAY z And beyonce And, harlem HOW i could branch
out and become the voice of my. Generation you're laughing,
now but believe, me IF i start rapping with Ice,
cube the laughter will start and the seriousness will. Begin Bill,

(01:22:00):
Cunningham News radio seven hundred W. W, i, well.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Do you see?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Something you see a? LITTLE i need a voice of my.
Generation you know What i'm.

Speaker 10 (01:22:08):
Saying nothing wrong with being the voice to your. Generation
we gotta get you on.

Speaker 4 (01:22:12):
Beat.

Speaker 10 (01:22:13):
Though you, know the rhymes were. Dope the rhymes was,
great but, uh gotta get you on that. Beat what's the?

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Beat what do you?

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Mean we gotta get you on. That we got to
make it wear flow that. Beat the, beat, yeah, yeah
but the.

Speaker 10 (01:22:26):
Rhymes not, bad not. BAD i was surprised AND i
thought they were you, KNOW i didn't know what they.
Expect but, now what what do you? DO i have
a future and rap.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
Gotta get you on that. Beat, man a few months with,
me you'd, be you'd, be you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
KNOW I i was gonna tour The. SOUTH i spent
time at the backstage of The. Apollo, okay my show
was in The harlem for one season across And i've
spent time. There and that's WHERE i hooked up with
some of the Jay z's guys and they worked with
me some lines to become the voice of my. Generation
and then they want to put me on the road
had to go into the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:59):
South is that?

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:23:00):
Yeah, man that's pretty. Incredible they need to work with
you on that beat though. Beat, yeah, yeah we gotta
rock that.

Speaker 7 (01:23:07):
Beat, hello, Quiet i'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Kind of speaking about the beat we got tearing here
from the beat ONE o two point three F m
word of the day? Beat what does the beat? Mean
relative the rap and red of THE i got the
lyrics they were. Dope they were. DOPE i DON'T i
don't use.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Dope that means, good, right, yeah dope means good in that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
Situation, yeah come, on you got you gotta get with.
It let him.

Speaker 6 (01:23:37):
Talk you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
Gotta get with the. Lingo, first did you see this?
Coming did you see me in Ice?

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
CUBE i did not see Ice cube approve of that.
WRAP i did NOT i see that. Coming I'm i'm,
surprised that's for. Sure, well now just throw away EVERYTHING
i said on whatever day it was this, week ice
Ice cube approves used.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
That two or three? Days how much credit does Ice cube? Happen?

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Credit he's who's who's bigger than?

Speaker 8 (01:24:01):
Him?

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Anybody i'm gonna see people bigger than Ice, cube.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
But like who like Ice? Cube? No, look you got
Snoop Dogg Snoop dogg's. Bake look at, it look At.

Speaker 4 (01:24:12):
Yeah he'll be. Here yeah next. Month get the dog.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
On are you gonna meet the? DOG i, Hope so
get the dog in, Here get the dog in there
rapping with him and Ice.

Speaker 4 (01:24:19):
Cube he got it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Made then you'll you'll shay your. Radio you used to
have Jay z's people's. Number you meet Jay z on it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Too it's been about nine. YEARS i used to Have.
Jayson we used to. Talk he loved MY tv.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Show that would be a hell of a. Song you Ice,
Cube Snoop dogg and Jay z be like a mini Live.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Aid what was the name of those four old country
artists and went together and started Touring Johnny, Cash Johnny,
Cash Carl, Perkins Roy orbison and Uh George, Lewis George.
Harrison oh you mean a will traveling WILBUR i could
be a traveling Ice cube with.

Speaker 4 (01:24:54):
Me, well he is going on Tour, september he, Said
that's what he.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
Said and IF i get my act together by, Then
i'll be on tour with Ice. Cube if you get
that going in a, month then you then it's see you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Later now we can get a. Tater now we can
Get Snoop dogg in, here and It's Snoop Dogg pools
he has to bring you on to then can you
get the dog in? Here i'll do my.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Best get the.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Dog tell him maybe they could compete for my. Talents,
Good Ice, cube Jay z and the dog all offer
me different. Opportunities are You.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Are you gonna take your talents out west? Too because
you know that they're both of Them west? Coast are
you gonna follow macronin and go out west?

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
TOO i don't Like Los? Angeles CAN i do?

Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
REMOTELY i mean you. Can what are you gonna? Do
then you're gonna like the voice or like something like.
That you're gonna sit there like the. Sheriff, yes like
the sheriff, Sayes you're gonna stand in front of Jay,
Z Ice, Cube Ice, Tea snoop And Snoop dogg and
let them let them, round let me compete for my,
talents kind of like one of THOSE tv.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Shows now what if they all turn? Around who would
you go?

Speaker 8 (01:25:56):
To?

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
WELL i gotta go with a. CUBE i tell them
get rid of ice because The mexican, thing get rid of.
Ice just call yourself the. Cube can't do that it's.
Years you're going to turn Off hispanics if they say, Ice, no, no, no,
no they love they love ice out. There it's like
calling The beatles the Beat i'm just SAYING i have
A you guys are. Laughing you won't be laughing When

(01:26:17):
i'm rapping next year at The Pey Course Stadium Music,
festival you won't be. Laughing AND i Have Bootsy collins
there with me on the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Base let's make Sure i'm. In i'm in the, crowd all.
RIGHT i WANT i want to see.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
That me, Too Segua Cyny osier coming up about the
big doings and in the end of this, Weekend so give,
me give me a quickie sports reporter AS i begin
my new career As Ice Cubes Devo Ta willie stood
reporters of proud, service every Local Thamestar heating and air conditioning,
Dealers thamestar quality you could feel In cincinnati Coll Schmid

(01:26:49):
heating And coolie five one three five three one sixty
nine hundred. Spot what awards COULD i? Get The newcomer
of The year do you? THINK? Mtv what COULD i?

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Get iHeart Radio Come over The, Year Pittman Country Music,
award DO i have twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Years you, know you go, laughing you go, rap and
then you kind of diversified the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
Country you can cross over like A jesse Jay z's.
Wife You, beyonce you know she crossed over the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Country i'll be at the you and Beyond San arena
is up on top of me And. Beyonce would JAY
z get? Jealous?

Speaker 8 (01:27:20):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Probably please, continue he, says Not. Diddy the sports of
the bring Up? DIDDY i did not bring up stooge
report presented by a C r gun eyed pools and
spas hit. It get this guy on, it on your
and your. Ranks COULD i could rap about the concerns
today this? Year frank hit? It did you see me

(01:27:46):
in the queue in an ac? Suna would not be
something sitting around talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Music that will be, something all?

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Generation my generation have concerns between fifty and eight year?
Olds do we have concerns about generation? Skip? Trust intervivos
irrevocable revocable? Trust what about? Wills what about the? States
what About?

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Uh i'm not between that. Age.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
R you don't even know about my generation? Sake don't
you have concerns in your? Life how about where the
leads are on this. Show do you buy an apartment
building and use your money to buy another? House what
do you? Do those are the concerns of my. Generation
i'll find it and then, well you know what you?
Do is you if you want to wrap about financial
you call like what's your?

Speaker 8 (01:28:29):
Name?

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
Uh used to be on?

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Anyway why not get her on ornative financial? Planning do
the law Call Anginette? Lee what's your mixing your four
one financial? Funds you do something about the. Law the Magic,
Man Carland, Shiver ducker And Joe. Dieters, yeah thank.

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
You just don't wrap about throwing money on strippers and.
Everything you don't do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
That my wife wouldn't like. That she Would i'm not
so sure about. THAT i might now would she?

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Approve because if you get hot and going towards the ice,
cube you like to go to some of the venues
like that or GIRLS i have?

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
Naked you glad to do? That would your wife?

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
APPROVED i like seeing women have.

Speaker 4 (01:29:06):
Naked that's the life of a rap.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
STAR i don't know. What IF i get in trouble
with the P Diddy, krawd Then i'll be at an after.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Party well make sure we'll make sure you have no
nobody was?

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
There, Well Cube saturday night, said here's my, number call.
Me what have you at the after? Party what happens
at the after Party saturday?

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
Night, Well diddy's not going to be, there So i'm
pretty Sure Ice cube after.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Man, yeah like you, speak three tournaments in town to.
BASKETBALL i call him The, cube Not ice. Bad that's bad.
MARKETING i gave him that. Idea he didn't like. It
but you, Know ice not, BAD i mean good of.
IT i DON'T i could talk about mixed and mutual.
Funds you want more, bonds more. Stocks you want to
buy the market or buy? Individuals do you buy like

(01:29:48):
c L. K do you buy the whole market or
just part of? It those are the concerns of my generation.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Now you, mean but you need to appeal to some
of the younger generation, too because you know everything is
about streaming. Nowadays you don't really know much not streaming.
Nowadays you got, it used to go in to the
stores and buying. CDs got An.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Outburt you got to think about the global effect on,
you not just. Here cube's team will take care of,
Me that's what he said. Months he's gonna work with
me for. Months can you imagine me after four months
and working with Ice cube for four? Months that's his
tours In. September we don't have that. Long we gotta
get started. Now, Yeah i'm out of here. Segment get
me out of The Studge. Report please we Have sydney coming.

(01:30:26):
Up Oh, willy, everybody have a good weekend and good
luck on your rap. Career will he See we leave
you with the immortal words of The Stood.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
Report See Highway patrol again next. Week until, then remember
it isn't what's your, drive but how your drive. Counts
this Is Rodrick crawford, saying see you next.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Week how big Is Roderic crawford in the rap?

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Community, TEREN i don't believe that? Big?

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Yeah did you see me on stage at THE Mtv?
Awards would you be?

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
THERE i hope So i'll be the plus? One, yeah
me and Safe.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Row people really think then it's Ai Rocky boyman said
it was all. Crap Ice cube Was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
Rocky it was it was all. True Ice cube was
in the, building he was, here sliminade Man.

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
Ron.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Guy but that's, okay he, Said, TEA i Said, CUBE i,
said difference. Segment don't you know the. Difference you don't get,
That so send The Osier. Next on news radio seven HUNDRED,
Wlw bill cunning in The Grand. America Tonight friday is
going to be The Osier festival In Southeastern. Indiana put

(01:31:39):
together now for about sixteen. Years it began with ideas
of The bucher family to do something good directly for
the citizens of southeastern And indiana and else who are needing.
Help And, jonah you AND i now Is Sydney osier
from that festival Tonight friday And, Saturday july twenty fifth
and twenty. Six and first of, All, sinny tell The
american people what the festival, is where it is and

(01:32:01):
where do all the proceeds.

Speaker 6 (01:32:02):
Go, yes this is our sixteenth. Year you just said.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
That we have it down In Veristyle lane In, Aurora,
Indiana Bucher. Farm it's on our website if they need to.
Know but every year we give wishes to six, angels you,
know for medical cancer you name. IT i, mean they're
very sick kids and they need our. Help every year
we have a committee that sits down and picks six.

(01:32:29):
Angels we get like sixteen eighteen nominations every. Year and
So saturday, night we give the wishes out on stage at.
Seven it's an all day. Event you've been there all,
day food all, day, drinks, baskets fireworks at the, end
live bands all.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Day kind of pick out of. It pick out one
of the angels this, YEAR i guess just pick one
in your own. Mind as to the proceeds benefiting this,
angel describe the difficulties this boy or girl is.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
Having, well we have a couple kids this year which
we have not had in the. Past one needs like
a lung, transplant the other one needs a heart and
a lung. Transplant it just breaks your. Heart last, year you,
know every year we get kids with, cancer you, know brain,

(01:33:19):
cancer hip, cancer you name, it and it's just. Sad
we had an angel last, Year dim that we lost
this year due to. Cancer but she was one of
our angels last year and she got to do her,
trip you, know so we're blessed as she was able
to do her family.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Trip so it could be medical, needs it could be
a final wish that those involved are under eighteen years
old and they don't have, assets don't have, money don't have.
Access these are kids just need help and right they
just Want, Yeah like last.

Speaker 5 (01:33:53):
YEAR i think you, saw well the one girl wanted
a baby, calf a cow to raise and. Show so
guess what we made it. Work we had a baby
calf presented to her last.

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
Year get it it. Is it's those little, wishes right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
That these kids can't get through insurance or, anything and
we're there to provide those to make them. Smile that's
all we.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Care and everyone is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Invited you can live In, Illinois, tennessee you can live
anywhere in The try state and describe what happens at the.
Festival and everything is free at the, festival THOUGH i
think a lot of people make generous. Donations WHEN i
get something to, EAT i might leave twenty or fifty
bucks and, say, hey thank you for the. Hamburger but
if you want to ride the rides and eat the

(01:34:37):
food and, drink that's fine. Too describe what happens at
the festival, itself, Right.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
Well we do Start, friday so people can Come friday
five a. Pm on live. Bands we have baskets and
split the pod cooler of. Cheer we sell, shirts but
soon and all the drinks are, free and then we'll
have donation buckets. Around but everything that's raised goes to
those kids. Wishes and Then saturday we start at.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Noon all day.

Speaker 5 (01:35:07):
We have, fireworks joke and fireworks at the very end
and they are.

Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
Amazing and there is the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
WEBSITE i just got a. Text if somebody wants to
get Direct i've gone, THERE i think every year the
last several. Years and sometimes it's difficult to find because
the bridge is. OUT i know one YEAR i had
to go Around no it's not it's not out this
year Market.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
Street, no they can go Up Market street, now so
it is an easy access this.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
Year and what is the?

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
WEBSITE i get to get all the information in The american?

Speaker 5 (01:35:37):
People, yeah www dot OSER o s E r roth
R o t h fest dot.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Com let me write that down OSIER o s E
r roth R o t h fest dot. Com got
directions things like. That it's, uh so many. THINGS a
lot of the, charities uh they're formalized there forty percent,
overhead sixty percent. Overhead you got the cost of those
and you've worked your tail off for this, event as

(01:36:09):
has The bucher family and described that every Dollar i'm
not talking about eighty percent ninety, Percent i'm talking about
what say.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
Goes back to these kids the. Friends that's why It's
Oser roth and. Friends we all put our money in
time and we get tons of donations, too so everything is,
provided the food you name, it the drinks is either
donated or we pay for it Ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
July and that's how you make the run. Weekend it's
the one of the Great Sycamore. Township just had a
big party this past weekend and it was like five
dollars to ride all the rides because they had, sponsors
tear tired. Discounts other WHY i supported it and in this,
circumstance it has rides for the. Kids it is, swimming

(01:37:01):
it is food and, drink it is fun and. GAMES
a couple thousand and three thousand people show up and
it's a wonderful celebration of. LIFE. O. S. E. R
Oserroth R O t hfest Dot com And Sindy, Oser
you're gonna have a special place in heaven for what
you've done for kids over the last sixteen. Years and

(01:37:21):
give my best to all the folks In. Indiana And
i'll give out the website again later. Today but once, Again,
sindy thanks for coming on The Bill Cunningham. Show sending
your Great american thank you very.

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
Much all, right thank You, willie thanks a, Lot god bless.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
You thank, You.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
Oz continue with. More i've been there many times and believe,
me it's the real. Deal family. Fun come on. Out
get the directions on the website and the way we.
Go july twenty fifth and, six which is, Tonight friday
and Tomorrow. Saturday starting at noon, today it starts like
at five. Pm Bill Cunningham news is next your home
of The reds and. More News radio seven HUNDRED W

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