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July 29, 2025 • 14 mins
The Republican candidate for Ohio Governor Vivek Ramaswamy gives his thoughts on the violence in downtown Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
By Billy cunning and the Great American Reds. Baseball kicks
off of the Dodgers about six ten to night, first
pitch about seven ten. Reds need to win this one.
Dodgers and Reds could be a preview of the nationally
pennant race between the two of them. At the end,
we'll see what happens. But we have more problems in
River City. As you may know, I've done a lot
of national interviews recently about what's happening in my hometown
of Cincinnati. It's all over the place except CNN, MSNBC

(00:30):
doesn't cover it, but it's everywhere else. And joining you
and I alis vike Ramaswami, the man who would be
the governor. He's leading in the polls by like thirty
eight points and he's got the Republican nomination sewed up.
And Viveke Ramaswami from Cincinnati. Welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show. And first of all, Avake, I want to
share with the American people of posting you had I
believe on excess, said the following yesterday. I spoke to

(00:52):
Holly earlier today, the woman tragically assaulted in Cincinnati this
weekend Holly's a single working mom who went to a
friend's birthday. It's unconscionable that there were no police presence
in the area of Cincinnati on Friday night Saturday morning,
or even an ambulance to take her to the hospital.
When you first saw the survey, what came to your mind?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I was deeply saddened, and also, frankly, as somebody who's
born and raised and from the city of Cincinnati, Billy,
I'll be honest, I was a little bit ashamed to
see Cincinnati in the national news in that light. Cincinnati,
it's a great city with great values and great people,
and to see us on the national stage as exhibit
a of the breakdown of the rule of law and

(01:33):
country made me sad. It made me upset. It also
made me motivated, frankly, as governor to change that tone
in our state, to clean up our cities and bring
back the.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Rule of law.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
And if I reflected on it my first step, I thought,
how could I be a responsible, potential leader without at
least listening to the woman who was impacted by it,
to hear her perspective, and also, most importantly, to be
able to provide comfort. And if I was able to
help in any way as well, so I decided.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
To give her a Paul.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
We had a mutual friend and mutual contact in common,
and it was eye opening to listen to her. Thank
God that she's okay, thank God that she survived that,
and it appears to be, although I think she's still struggling,
hopefully on a path to recovery.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
She re appreciated that. And one of the things that
stuck with me, Billy, was that not.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
A single local official, and not a single elected official.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
In our state government had yet reached out to her.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
And this is I'm talking to her days after the
incident on Friday night. She was really grateful, and I
think that's the job of public leaders is just to
step up and listen, but at the same time to
take action to make sure something like this doesn't happen again.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
I know you're not living Columbus, you have nationwide connections,
but Cincinnati has gone through this for the last forty
or fifty years, and now every twenty years we have
riots of one type or another. It's some civil disobedience,
and then the city government works hard to provide more
social services. Right now act for sincey has midnight basketball.
We have assuming pools that are open later. We have

(03:05):
hip hop dance lessons. We have all kinds of stuff
going on and seemingly and also those who are part
of this failure either don't attend or not in town,
have a pure of all.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I have to have.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Pure of all is not in Cincinnati. He's somewhere else.
He skypes in every now and then. And the police
chief yesterday, Chief Fiji, and I have empathy for the woman.
She goes after the juvenile court system in Hamlet County,
in which we have a lousy judge who believes even
those teenage boys that use weapons get out on bond
and don't go to jail nothing. Everyone gets a one

(03:39):
shot at it, she says, literally. And then the police
chief said yesterday that we only we shut down the
command center about two am, and there were tens of
tens of thousands of people were in downtown Cincinnati at
three o'clock in the morning, and all told vivek Ramaswami,
there was one hundred and fifty thousand people that were
there and there was or no police protection.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
In fact, when the event took place, the.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Chief of Blei said there was three cops on duty
between the Ohio River and north of OTR three cops
on duty, and this thing was greatly delayed. So I'd
ask you first, how's Holly doing emotionally and physically and
what is her plan going forward? How serious were her
injuries that looked terrible?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
She herges are from my sense of it talking to her, Billy,
pretty serious, and she is emotionally physically still recovering on
irrespectful of her privacy, but we wish her the best,
pray for her recovery and her family.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
That's what's most important here. But she was also I
have to say this, Billy, and I frankly got.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Her not only permission but encouragement before putting out anything
about our conversation. She was hopeful that the attention that
this incident got at least has some good come out
of it, which is common sense reform in protecting our cities.
The fact that there's a major national event, a Red's Game,
other things going on Cincinnati, tens, maybe even one hundred

(05:02):
thousand plus people with minimal to know police presence is unforgivable.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
It's unconscionable, and I want to be for to say this.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
We have great police officers serving in the Cincinnati Police Department,
serving in police departments and cities across.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
The state, and they have my full backing. But what
they deserve is better.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Leadership, leadership that deploys our resources in ways that actually
make sense. What are you thinking about on a Friday
night in Cincinnati, that area of town. Okay, and I
grew up in Cincinnati, you know Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Well, do give a major national event? What are we
thinking without any police presence? Right there? This woman is
knocked out.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
There isn't even an ambulance that she's able to get,
waiting there for a long time, eventually having to find.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Her own way out. That doesn't make any sense to me.
Common sense, And so this isn't.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
About Democrat versus Republican stuff. This is about common sense,
at least that it should be. And the fact that
this is not a bipartisan issue, I think is a
scathing indictment, particularly of the modern left. And one thing
I will say is I say this in a positive way,
in a constructive way. I invite my Democratic colleagues, opponents whoever,
across the state, to join me in calling for an

(06:12):
increased law and order presence in our cities protect our citizens,
and the sad part is the only peep that we've
heard from Democrats in our state. I kid you not,
Billy is criticizing me for even having the gall to
call the victim who was affected, who appreciated the call.
And I just think that that shows everything that's wrong
with the modern left's culture is the real crime in

(06:34):
their eye, wasn't the assault, It was noticing it. And
I think that's the real problem.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
You said in your posting that Vega Ramaswami left us
like to lecture about systemic in justice while thugs turn
our cities into war zones. I would note, and I
sent you posting from the city of Cincinnati. We've had
an incredibly number of high crimes committed in the Central
Business District that the numbers are in the range of

(07:00):
of twenty eight thousand crimes. We have twenty thousand guns
shot gun shots happening in the city through shot spotter
every year, the bullets are flying every which way. We
have about four hundred people are going to be wounded
this year in the city. We have over two thousand
cars that are going to be stolen. Every time I
look up, it gets worse and we've had a fifty

(07:20):
from those numbers, we've had a fifty percent increase in
crimes committed in the Central Business District this year, which
is the crown jewel of Practer and Gamble, Fifth Third Bank,
Joseph Auto, Mode of Western and Southern. We have these
wonderful nationwide companies in downtown Cincinnati, and the employees are
saying to their managers, we can't take this anymore.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
We can't live like this when you have panhanmers and
drug built.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
What do you say.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I'm not going to sit here and just throw my
hands up in the air and complain about it. I'm
introduce something about it. That's what man for government, and
I do think that we set the tone from the top.
And my view is it is not controversial, it is
not publican, it is now democrat. It is common sense
to increase police presence in our cities. I'm talking about

(08:06):
downtown Cincinnati, I'm talking about the inner city of Cleveland.
I'm talking about the inner city of Toledo and Dayton,
and yes, even Columbus now look at areas like the
Short North in Columbus. In the every week you wake
up to some type of news about some type of
crime that's not acceptable, and I do think that it
takes a leader with the spine at the top to
actually say it. So my job as the next governor

(08:28):
of the state to set the tone for our state
that includes, we want to cities in our state. No
more apologizing, no more differing around. This is common sense,
and we're going to stand for it with apology. We're
bringing law and order back to Ohio in a way
that most people in the state want and every citizen
of this state deserves.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
And I won't be apologizing for that. We're just going
to get it done.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Lastly, for veg Ramaswami, Now I give you an idea. Sure,
in the nineteen nineties, New Gingreach and Bill Clinton, there
was a terrible crime problem all over and fueled by
cracking other reasons. And Bill Clinton worked with New Gingriage
and they said, we're going to hire one hundred thousand
new cops and disperse them around this country to be

(09:14):
paid for by the federal government for five years, and
after that period of time, the locals got to pick
it up. Would you consider this possibility of having maybe
twenty five thousand more cops or ten thousand more cops
funded by the state of Ohio in the major crime areas,
which are Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Akron, in Toledo, the five
large cities, and say, okay, when I become the governor,

(09:36):
I'm gonna where the State of Ohio is going to
fund for five years, pick a number, ten thousand more
police officers were and they're we're going to pay for
them for five years to knock down the crime. I
don't know about Columbus, Acro in Toledo, Cleveland, you might
have a better idea about that. But in Cincinnati were
in a crime meltdown. Would that be an idea for
the state to say, we're going to fund pick the

(09:57):
number ten thousand more cops and dispersed time to high
crime areas.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
We're going to pay for him for five years. Is
that a good idea?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Look on the face of it, I think it is
an interesting and pretty good idea to me. I want
to think about the specific's ability. I mean, one of
the things we also want to ensure for our police
officers is that they have the proper training needed to
do their jobs. Well, that's something that's often missing, particularly
in our state. And I'm going to stand for that training.
But the numbers also matter, and so I think it's
a great idea, but it's the kind of solution we

(10:26):
ought to be talking about, not just wringing our hands
in the dear sweeping under the rug, moving on and
hoping nobody notices. That's been, frankly too often the solution
from both major political parties at times. And to me,
this isn't the part is an issue. We're not sweeping
this under the rug. Not only are we exposing it.
We're going to solve the problem through action.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
And you know what, you have my word.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm going to consider that idea talking to my policy
team later today. I'm going to bring it up with
them and let's take a look at it.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Billy, all right, vivek Ramaswami, thank you very much for
traveling around the state meeting with others. I take it
the campaign you're going well, is that correct? You look
order replacing Mike DeWine in about a year and three months.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I look forward to beating the Democrats, hopefully by a
margin of many, many double digits, and we're going to
hopefully unit this state and lead Ohio to greatness, not
Texas or Florida.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
We're not living there shaft anymore. We're leading Ohio to
the top.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
God bless God, bless America for ave Gramaswami. Thank you
very much, thank you, thank you. All right, let's continue
with more. And by the way, I'm looking at the
city's own website. In your mind, think of the number
of reported crimes from January first until July first, which
is about a six month period. Raise your hand, what

(11:37):
number do you think of the crimes that were reported
to the city. I'm talking Green I'm not talking Green Township,
Sycamore Township, Boone County. I'm not talking Anderson Township. I'm
not talking Metamora. I'm talking in the city of Cincinnati.
And a six month period, there were fourteen thousand, three
hundred and eighty three reported crimes in six months. So
that's on its way to thirty thousand reported crimes said,

(12:00):
thirty thousand reported crimes, and it's mainly centered Shaw. We
say in about six or seven zip codes, thirty thousand
reported crimes. And by historical numbers, the number reported crimes
by the time you can break it down over a
two year period is one hundred and sixteen thousand reported
crimes in the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Number reported offenses and the number of victims include in
the range of sixty thousand victims in the city of Cincinnati.
And the mayor's telling us, hey on a Skype call.
God knows where the mayor is. He's awol. The Mayor's
telling us We're doing well. The programs are working. The
hip hop classes are full, midnight basketball, we have many

(12:41):
leagues swimming, swimming classes are doing great. When you have
these kinds of numbers of reported offenses in the city
of Cincinnati, by historical standards, we are in terrible problems. Now,
how about this one before we go to news number
of reported victims in the first six months of this
year crimes. You know, one victim several crimes committed against
him or her. There's eighteen thousand victims in the first

(13:05):
six months. That means on track for thirty six to
forty thousand victims. Are you kidding me? How's that possible?
And by historical standards? How about this?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
I think I'm reading this correctly, Tony Bender. The number
of total.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Victims last year in the city of Cincinnati was one
hundred and nineteen thousand and seventy three.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
But everything's good. Don't worry about it. Crime is down.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Crime is down, except the victims are up. The number
of crimes are up. The Ryan Hintons this world are
coming up the ladder to commit more and more crimes.
This is a friggin meltdown. And the scott to stop
veg Ramaswami just think about the idea of the state
funding for five years more cops to get them trained

(13:52):
and use Clinton and Gingrich as a model. Let's continue
with more. Later on we discover we have Steve Leeper
coming up from three c DC. He's the man in
charge of the renaissance of OTR and CBD Central Business District.
Let's see what he says. Bill Cunningham with you every
Day a News Radio seven hundred WW
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