September 16, 2025 • 16 mins
Willie talks about the political violence that is gripping the nation and led to the death of Charlie Kirk with Tim Graham of Newsbusters.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Of course, the media coverage of the horrible events involving
Charlie Kirk goes day by day. It's been now several
days since he was murdered in cold blood, and one
of the interesting things is the mainstream media is trying
their damnedness to pend this one on Donald Trump. The
other day, Governor Hockel ever never heard of her until recently,
the governor of New York State is endorsed endorsing I'm
(00:30):
Donnie the Kami to be the mayor of New York City,
and she says, the main reason I'm doing this is
Donald Trump. I'm endorsing a communist to run New York
City because of Donald Trump. And now also the mainstream
media wants to pin this desperately on Donald Trump or
Mega crowd or whatever, because he had a shirt that
looked as if he supported he supported Charlie Kirk. Joining
(00:51):
you and I now as the executive editor of NewsBusters,
a great objective organization that organizes the news, and every
every day or two check with NewsBusters dot org to
see what's going on. That's Tim Graham and Tim Graham
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
what is your research shown about the mainstream media and
it's coverage of the of the killing of a Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, we can say that they treated it as a
horrible thing, which of course shouldn't be hard for.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Them to do.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But yes, they they're they're having several threads here that
are extremely annoying. They're very upset that President Trump blamed
this on the radical left. They somehow want to suggest
that we couldn't possibly figure out when a guy has
bullet cases that said catch this fascist, We can't figure
out which side he's on, I mean, shooting Charlie Kirk.
(01:48):
Dad ought to tell you whose side he's on, And
that they all these geniuses run around going I have
no idea what the motive could be. And the other
thread that's really annoying us is them all running around saying, oh,
it's so terrible that this authoritarian Trump is getting teachers
fired for tweeting out yay he's dead. Karma is a boch,
(02:11):
you know these sorts of things. Good riddance to bad garbage.
Oh you got fired, Well, maybe you should have thought
twice before you tweeted that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, you know, they kind of confused the First Amendment.
The First Amendment deals with government action barring free speech.
It doesn't keep you from consequences. And almost all these
individuals are not working for government. Most of them are
teachers and physicians, airline pilots. Maybe the Secret Service agent
is working for government. But if you don't work for government,
(02:42):
you don't have the right to freedom of speech. You
can't come out and work for Ford Motor Company or
at Microsoft and be on social media identifying yourself and
saying hateful things about anyone, and your employer can then say, well,
you're fired because we don't want someone with those viewpoints
representing our company anyway. But done the radical left, and
I want to get to a poll that came out
(03:03):
recently about support among the liberal Democrats for the murder
of Charlie. Does the media around the corner on the
fact that cancel culture, which is something we've been putting
up with for the last ten to fifteen years, applies
to everyone, not just conservatives.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, certainly, and you know we know that they obviously
supported firing people who opposed taking the COVID vaccine. Absolutely,
you know they obviously favored firing people who not only
might have been walking around the Capitol on January six,
but for people who were like standing around outside or
(03:44):
who said things in support of the riots on January six.
They wanted those people taking, you know, off the employment roles. So,
I mean, there's such a double standard about this. So, yes,
there's freedom of speech, but you know that, yes, there
is this kind of speech where it's like, obviously, if
(04:05):
you're an employer and your your employee goes out and
tweets the N word or something, you're gonna be gone.
And so if you're going to go out there after
a man was viciously shot in the neck and say
good riddance to bad garbage, and especially if you're a
school teacher, a nurse, a guidance counselor, I mean, you know,
(04:29):
and obviously we do have this. They're all upset that
Secretary of AGSAS is investigating posts by members of the military.
Once again, as a member of the military, you can't
go out and tweet just anything.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You have a story up about. Sunday news shows hosts
all seem one every Republican, constantly to condemn their own
sides rhetoric. On the other hand, liberal host will never
ask a single Democrat like Senator Murphy from kN Attica
who say we are at war, or a Representative Dan
(05:03):
Goldman New York who said we have to eliminate Donald Trump.
They never ask a single Democrat if they need to
stop using the term fascist, Hitler, Nazis and threats to democracy.
By the way, the murderer Ruth who attempted murder on
trial now and on one of his one of his
media posts, they wanted to kill Trump because he was
(05:24):
a threat to democracy, using the same language democrats use
against Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk. So do you find
it odd that every Republican always might must condemn every Republican,
but that liberals never ask a single Democrat. Do you
think calling someone Hitler a fascist or a Nazi think
that might incentivize the those on the brink of killing
(05:47):
somebody that's It doesn't even rise in their mind.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Does it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean, this is why we would call them the
lastest media, because they don't hold everyone accountable. They constantly
try to hold the Conservatives accountable, which they're generally not.
They're generally just smearing the Conservatives and scolding them for
their rhetoric and yes, they won't scold any of the
Democrats for their rhetoric. You know, when Daniel Goldman said
(06:13):
we have to eliminate Trump, that should have been criticized
in question in real time, not months after the fact.
But yes, you know we can see these clips on
social media now, Governor Hockel, we are at war. All
these people are running around saying we are at war.
Well what does that say? That certainly implies violence, and
they're not. You know, they didn't go to Governor Polis,
(06:36):
for example, who is on this weekend and say, well,
what about your side? No, they ask Governor Polis the
same question. They ask Governor Cox, like what about this
right wing rhetoric? And that's where you just have to
look at that and say, it's one thing to honor
Governor Cox for saying, let's turn down the temperature. Social
media is a little poisonous out there where that and
(06:57):
I think there's a message there, especially when somebody has
just been shot dead. But to try to suggest that
somehow the right wing is more vicious on social media
than the left wing. And of course what really was
underlined here was this the whole pile of leftists went
over to this blue Sky site because it wasn't going
to be as hateful as Elon Musk's Twitter. Blue Sky
(07:21):
has just been an absolute you know, violence endorsing mass Yeah,
and so the idea that you know, even now some
of these experts in social media are trashing Twitter and
not trashing Blue Sky and TikTok.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, you know, one of the worst examples was, as
president the mind of vacant Joe Biden said Donald Trump
has a bull's eye on him. Now he must be
taken out. And so when the president says his opponent
has a bullseye and must be taken out, is.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That a call for violence? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And some other examples. You know, it's about the what
about ism? What about ism? And I see many on
the left talk about, well what about Paul Pelosi? Well,
what was the mentally ill drug addict who hit Paul
Pelosi in the head? Was he like a Trump supporter?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Maybe not?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And I'm not saying at the time, it's terrible, it's
unspoken violence. When that female lawmaker for Minnesota named Hortman
was butchered in her own home and killed by a
fellow Democrat who was angry about he was angry about
COVID policies, and I'm thinking terrible. They have a woman
and a man husband killed in their own home. That's
(08:39):
awful when those events take place at their horrible events
that's used in the same Bailey Wick as shooting Charlie Kirk.
All killings are bad. What happened to Paul Pelosi is terrible.
And the guy got twenty years in jail should have
got forty years in jail. And the guy who acted
as if he was a police officer in some sort
of odd appearance to get into the home of that
(09:00):
state representative, hopefully he'll spend the rest of his life
in prison plus plus plus. But there's no comparison between
targeted political killing like what happened to Donald Trump and
Butler County almost what happened in Palm Beach, what happened
to Charlie Kirk. All of it's bad, but the targeted violence,
the bullets seemed to be coming in one direction. And
(09:21):
the only person killed on January sixth, what was a
Trump supporter shot in the head by Capitol police, and
so anyone else to herd a cop on January sixth
absolutely should be sentenced for the crime here or she committed.
The great majority walked around and did nothing, but they
were treated like threats to the republic.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So can you smell what I'm cooking? There?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What about is it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And let's face it, Tim Graham of NewsBusters, All bad
things happen everywhere, no matter what it is. It's the
frequency and the support of what's going on. And after
Charlie was murdered, no city police department, no county police
ever thought about, Okay, we're gonna have that forty million
supporters of Charlie Kirk are going to start the riot.
(10:03):
Be careful now, get the police out, get the shields.
We're going to have to guard our cities against riots
because of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Can you smell what I'm cooking?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah? You know. I think we can absolutely say that
there is toxic speech on both sides. There is extremism
on both sides. If we to me, the best definition
of his extremism is not like, oh, you want to
add the Federal Reserve. It's I want to kill somebody
who I oppose. It's the violence that defines what extremism is.
(10:36):
So is there some of that on both sides? Sure?
I think You've made a really important point here that
a lot of conservatives are making, and that is when
bad things happen on the left, like George Floyd, we
had riots and streets and the networks, and they basically
endorsed them. They called them rebellions, and you know, they
kind of lionized them, and they made heroes out of
(11:00):
Black Lives Matter. And when they said they were Marxists,
then pr came out and said, no, they're not Marxists,
even though it's quite obvious they are, you know, And
if they can blame the right for something, they will,
even if the shooter's mentally ill. You could go back
to Gabby Gifford's right. And they tried to suggest this
guy was a right winger when he was just mentally ill.
(11:22):
And now, of course, when it's quite obvious that the
shooter here is a leftist who wrote on the bullet
case and catch this fascist, they're trying to say, well,
you can't possibly identify what the motive is. And they're
running around saying, don't ask about the motive. Motive doesn't matter,
which for journalists, for journalists to save, don't investigate what
is that all about?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
They don't want the result of the investigation, which demonstrates
he's a left ring radical extremist who confessed to the
murder on his small group on a website before he
turned himself in.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So to speak.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Getting back to George Floyd, who died in police custody,
the Governor of Minnesota, Tim Watson, the first Lady opened
the windows of the Governor's mansion and the and the
first Lady of Minnesota talked about this. The smoke smell
smelled like freedom. That that is, burning businesses smelled like freedom.
And that costs billions of dollars. It costs many lives.
(12:18):
Cities were burned down because of George Floyd and who
was an unknown character and a drug addict. And by
the way, when the when a terrible event would take place,
like to a Charlie Kirk, nobody what happened was candlelight, vigils, prayers,
and peaceful organizations disrupted by the radical left. Did you
(12:39):
see that one character at the makeshift memorial in Phoenix
running through the flowers and the American flag trashing the
memorial in front of the tp Attorning Point USA headquarters.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
What about that? It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, And you know, obviously a left winger who's trying
to disturb a peaceful rally. It's clearly trying to ruin
it and cause violence. So they can say, see, these
people couldn't possibly stay peaceful. These are the same people,
of course, who would stand in front of a raging
fire and say it's not generally unruly.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Here back to you.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Generally peaceful. That was a stand up reporter from CNN.
The city's burning behind them. I think it was Minneapolis,
and it's generally peaceful. Let's go back to the desk
what not. Lastly, there's been pulling out and some of
these numbers are shocking about not all Democrats, but maybe
(13:36):
most or many Democrats believe that political violence is acceptable.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'll give you an example. Sixty two percent.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Of liberal self identified liberal college students liberal colleges, does
sixty two percent say violence is acceptable to get to
a political end. This is after the murder of Charlie Kirk.
That these are a defined group liberal Demo democrats in
college say political violence is in some circumstances acceptable, And
(14:06):
on the other side, conservative college students the answer is
three percent. So sixty two to three what does that say?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, and I think it's important. I know they did
these polls after January sixth as well, and you have
to This is where I always want to go back
and read precisely what the question is, you know, because
we could say, well, we first certainly felt that violence
was justified in seventeen seventy six. You know, so there's
certainly are occasions and that people might answer yes thinking
(14:40):
of those sorts of occasions and not thinking about shooting
a thirty one year old father and neck. But yes,
I think this is where we can all unite around
the idea that we don't in a democracy, we don't
solve our arguments with violence. That should be the newest
media should find it very easy to be in the
(15:01):
so called middle or to you know, be at the
center of civil discourse. This is where they should be
able to advocate for something sensible, just like they should
be against riots in the streets. I think riots at
the capitol.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
No, how hard is that. No, they were in favor.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No one could not watch MSNBC, CNN, most of the
mainstream media on the George Floyd Roberts riots and say,
you know what, they got a point. They got a
point here. This is like a rebellion against oppressive white supremacy.
That this is not about destroying black businesses all over
every major city, or killing police officers or trashing downtown
areas and business centers.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
That this is understandable.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
In fact, Governor Tim Walt said you got to stand
back and let them vent, to stand back and let
them go. It's like, what are you talking about? And
that was the mainstream media approach. And Tim Graham that
was said, we got to run. But I love having
you on. Executive editor of NewsBusters dot org. That has
the me miror up to itself and many times the
image is not a good one. And Tim Graham, You're
(16:04):
a great American. And thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. Thank you, Tim. Thanks Bill, God bless America.
Let's continue with more. How do a chunk of self
identified liberal college students say that political violence in some
circumstances is acceptable?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Same number of conservative Republicans in college is three percent
sixty two percent to three percent all or wrong, including
the three percent. Bill Cunningham with you every day. You're
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Bill Cunningham, the Great American.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Of course, the media coverage of the horrible events involving
Charlie Kirk goes day by day. It's been now several
days since he was murdered in cold blood, and one
of the interesting things is the mainstream media is trying
their damnedness to pend this one on Donald Trump. The
other day, Governor Hockel ever never heard of her until recently,
the governor of New York State is endorsed endorsing I'm
(00:30):
Donnie the Kami to be the mayor of New York City,
and she says, the main reason I'm doing this is
Donald Trump. I'm endorsing a communist to run New York
City because of Donald Trump. And now also the mainstream
media wants to pin this desperately on Donald Trump or
Mega crowd or whatever, because he had a shirt that
looked as if he supported he supported Charlie Kirk. Joining
(00:51):
you and I now as the executive editor of NewsBusters,
a great objective organization that organizes the news, and every
every day or two check with NewsBusters dot org to
see what's going on. That's Tim Graham and Tim Graham
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
what is your research shown about the mainstream media and
it's coverage of the of the killing of a Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Well, we can say that they treated it as a
horrible thing, which of course shouldn't be hard for.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Them to do.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
But yes, they they're they're having several threads here that
are extremely annoying. They're very upset that President Trump blamed
this on the radical left. They somehow want to suggest
that we couldn't possibly figure out when a guy has
bullet cases that said catch this fascist, We can't figure
out which side he's on, I mean, shooting Charlie Kirk.
(01:48):
Dad ought to tell you whose side he's on, And
that they all these geniuses run around going I have
no idea what the motive could be. And the other
thread that's really annoying us is them all running around saying, oh,
it's so terrible that this authoritarian Trump is getting teachers
fired for tweeting out yay he's dead. Karma is a boch,
(02:11):
you know these sorts of things. Good riddance to bad garbage.
Oh you got fired, Well, maybe you should have thought
twice before you tweeted that.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, you know, they kind of confused the First Amendment.
The First Amendment deals with government action barring free speech.
It doesn't keep you from consequences. And almost all these
individuals are not working for government. Most of them are
teachers and physicians, airline pilots. Maybe the Secret Service agent
is working for government. But if you don't work for government,
(02:42):
you don't have the right to freedom of speech. You
can't come out and work for Ford Motor Company or
at Microsoft and be on social media identifying yourself and
saying hateful things about anyone, and your employer can then say, well,
you're fired because we don't want someone with those viewpoints
representing our company anyway. But done the radical left, and
I want to get to a poll that came out
(03:03):
recently about support among the liberal Democrats for the murder
of Charlie. Does the media around the corner on the
fact that cancel culture, which is something we've been putting
up with for the last ten to fifteen years, applies
to everyone, not just conservatives.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well, certainly, and you know we know that they obviously
supported firing people who opposed taking the COVID vaccine. Absolutely,
you know they obviously favored firing people who not only
might have been walking around the Capitol on January six,
but for people who were like standing around outside or
(03:44):
who said things in support of the riots on January six.
They wanted those people taking, you know, off the employment roles. So,
I mean, there's such a double standard about this. So, yes,
there's freedom of speech, but you know that, yes, there
is this kind of speech where it's like, obviously, if
(04:05):
you're an employer and your your employee goes out and
tweets the N word or something, you're gonna be gone.
And so if you're going to go out there after
a man was viciously shot in the neck and say
good riddance to bad garbage, and especially if you're a
school teacher, a nurse, a guidance counselor, I mean, you know,
(04:29):
and obviously we do have this. They're all upset that
Secretary of AGSAS is investigating posts by members of the military.
Once again, as a member of the military, you can't
go out and tweet just anything.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
You have a story up about. Sunday news shows hosts
all seem one every Republican, constantly to condemn their own
sides rhetoric. On the other hand, liberal host will never
ask a single Democrat like Senator Murphy from kN Attica
who say we are at war, or a Representative Dan
(05:03):
Goldman New York who said we have to eliminate Donald Trump.
They never ask a single Democrat if they need to
stop using the term fascist, Hitler, Nazis and threats to democracy.
By the way, the murderer Ruth who attempted murder on
trial now and on one of his one of his
media posts, they wanted to kill Trump because he was
(05:24):
a threat to democracy, using the same language democrats use
against Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk. So do you find
it odd that every Republican always might must condemn every Republican,
but that liberals never ask a single Democrat. Do you
think calling someone Hitler a fascist or a Nazi think
that might incentivize the those on the brink of killing
(05:47):
somebody that's It doesn't even rise in their mind.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Does it.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I mean, this is why we would call them the
lastest media, because they don't hold everyone accountable. They constantly
try to hold the Conservatives accountable, which they're generally not.
They're generally just smearing the Conservatives and scolding them for
their rhetoric and yes, they won't scold any of the
Democrats for their rhetoric. You know, when Daniel Goldman said
(06:13):
we have to eliminate Trump, that should have been criticized
in question in real time, not months after the fact.
But yes, you know we can see these clips on
social media now, Governor Hockel, we are at war. All
these people are running around saying we are at war.
Well what does that say? That certainly implies violence, and
they're not. You know, they didn't go to Governor Polis,
(06:36):
for example, who is on this weekend and say, well,
what about your side? No, they ask Governor Polis the
same question. They ask Governor Cox, like what about this
right wing rhetoric? And that's where you just have to
look at that and say, it's one thing to honor
Governor Cox for saying, let's turn down the temperature. Social
media is a little poisonous out there where that and
(06:57):
I think there's a message there, especially when somebody has
just been shot dead. But to try to suggest that
somehow the right wing is more vicious on social media
than the left wing. And of course what really was
underlined here was this the whole pile of leftists went
over to this blue Sky site because it wasn't going
to be as hateful as Elon Musk's Twitter. Blue Sky
(07:21):
has just been an absolute you know, violence endorsing mass Yeah,
and so the idea that you know, even now some
of these experts in social media are trashing Twitter and
not trashing Blue Sky and TikTok.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Well, you know, one of the worst examples was, as
president the mind of vacant Joe Biden said Donald Trump
has a bull's eye on him. Now he must be
taken out. And so when the president says his opponent
has a bullseye and must be taken out, is.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That a call for violence? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
And some other examples. You know, it's about the what
about ism? What about ism? And I see many on
the left talk about, well what about Paul Pelosi? Well,
what was the mentally ill drug addict who hit Paul
Pelosi in the head? Was he like a Trump supporter?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Maybe not?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And I'm not saying at the time, it's terrible, it's
unspoken violence. When that female lawmaker for Minnesota named Hortman
was butchered in her own home and killed by a
fellow Democrat who was angry about he was angry about
COVID policies, and I'm thinking terrible. They have a woman
and a man husband killed in their own home. That's
(08:39):
awful when those events take place at their horrible events
that's used in the same Bailey Wick as shooting Charlie Kirk.
All killings are bad. What happened to Paul Pelosi is terrible.
And the guy got twenty years in jail should have
got forty years in jail. And the guy who acted
as if he was a police officer in some sort
of odd appearance to get into the home of that
(09:00):
state representative, hopefully he'll spend the rest of his life
in prison plus plus plus. But there's no comparison between
targeted political killing like what happened to Donald Trump and
Butler County almost what happened in Palm Beach, what happened
to Charlie Kirk. All of it's bad, but the targeted violence,
the bullets seemed to be coming in one direction. And
(09:21):
the only person killed on January sixth, what was a
Trump supporter shot in the head by Capitol police, and
so anyone else to herd a cop on January sixth
absolutely should be sentenced for the crime here or she committed.
The great majority walked around and did nothing, but they
were treated like threats to the republic.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So can you smell what I'm cooking? There?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
That?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
What about is it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And let's face it, Tim Graham of NewsBusters, All bad
things happen everywhere, no matter what it is. It's the
frequency and the support of what's going on. And after
Charlie was murdered, no city police department, no county police
ever thought about, Okay, we're gonna have that forty million
supporters of Charlie Kirk are going to start the riot.
(10:03):
Be careful now, get the police out, get the shields.
We're going to have to guard our cities against riots
because of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Can you smell what I'm cooking?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah? You know. I think we can absolutely say that
there is toxic speech on both sides. There is extremism
on both sides. If we to me, the best definition
of his extremism is not like, oh, you want to
add the Federal Reserve. It's I want to kill somebody
who I oppose. It's the violence that defines what extremism is.
(10:36):
So is there some of that on both sides? Sure?
I think You've made a really important point here that
a lot of conservatives are making, and that is when
bad things happen on the left, like George Floyd, we
had riots and streets and the networks, and they basically
endorsed them. They called them rebellions, and you know, they
kind of lionized them, and they made heroes out of
(11:00):
Black Lives Matter. And when they said they were Marxists,
then pr came out and said, no, they're not Marxists,
even though it's quite obvious they are, you know, And
if they can blame the right for something, they will,
even if the shooter's mentally ill. You could go back
to Gabby Gifford's right. And they tried to suggest this
guy was a right winger when he was just mentally ill.
(11:22):
And now, of course, when it's quite obvious that the
shooter here is a leftist who wrote on the bullet
case and catch this fascist, they're trying to say, well,
you can't possibly identify what the motive is. And they're
running around saying, don't ask about the motive. Motive doesn't matter,
which for journalists, for journalists to save, don't investigate what
is that all about?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
They don't want the result of the investigation, which demonstrates
he's a left ring radical extremist who confessed to the
murder on his small group on a website before he
turned himself in.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So to speak.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Getting back to George Floyd, who died in police custody,
the Governor of Minnesota, Tim Watson, the first Lady opened
the windows of the Governor's mansion and the and the
first Lady of Minnesota talked about this. The smoke smell
smelled like freedom. That that is, burning businesses smelled like freedom.
And that costs billions of dollars. It costs many lives.
(12:18):
Cities were burned down because of George Floyd and who
was an unknown character and a drug addict. And by
the way, when the when a terrible event would take place,
like to a Charlie Kirk, nobody what happened was candlelight, vigils, prayers,
and peaceful organizations disrupted by the radical left. Did you
(12:39):
see that one character at the makeshift memorial in Phoenix
running through the flowers and the American flag trashing the
memorial in front of the tp Attorning Point USA headquarters.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
What about that? It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, And you know, obviously a left winger who's trying
to disturb a peaceful rally. It's clearly trying to ruin
it and cause violence. So they can say, see, these
people couldn't possibly stay peaceful. These are the same people,
of course, who would stand in front of a raging
fire and say it's not generally unruly.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Here back to you.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Generally peaceful. That was a stand up reporter from CNN.
The city's burning behind them. I think it was Minneapolis,
and it's generally peaceful. Let's go back to the desk
what not. Lastly, there's been pulling out and some of
these numbers are shocking about not all Democrats, but maybe
(13:36):
most or many Democrats believe that political violence is acceptable.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I'll give you an example. Sixty two percent.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Of liberal self identified liberal college students liberal colleges, does
sixty two percent say violence is acceptable to get to
a political end. This is after the murder of Charlie Kirk.
That these are a defined group liberal Demo democrats in
college say political violence is in some circumstances acceptable, And
(14:06):
on the other side, conservative college students the answer is
three percent. So sixty two to three what does that say?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Well, and I think it's important. I know they did
these polls after January sixth as well, and you have
to This is where I always want to go back
and read precisely what the question is, you know, because
we could say, well, we first certainly felt that violence
was justified in seventeen seventy six. You know, so there's
certainly are occasions and that people might answer yes thinking
(14:40):
of those sorts of occasions and not thinking about shooting
a thirty one year old father and neck. But yes,
I think this is where we can all unite around
the idea that we don't in a democracy, we don't
solve our arguments with violence. That should be the newest
media should find it very easy to be in the
(15:01):
so called middle or to you know, be at the
center of civil discourse. This is where they should be
able to advocate for something sensible, just like they should
be against riots in the streets. I think riots at
the capitol.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
No, how hard is that. No, they were in favor.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No one could not watch MSNBC, CNN, most of the
mainstream media on the George Floyd Roberts riots and say,
you know what, they got a point. They got a
point here. This is like a rebellion against oppressive white supremacy.
That this is not about destroying black businesses all over
every major city, or killing police officers or trashing downtown
areas and business centers.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
That this is understandable.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
In fact, Governor Tim Walt said you got to stand
back and let them vent, to stand back and let
them go. It's like, what are you talking about? And
that was the mainstream media approach. And Tim Graham that
was said, we got to run. But I love having
you on. Executive editor of NewsBusters dot org. That has
the me miror up to itself and many times the
image is not a good one. And Tim Graham, You're
(16:04):
a great American. And thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. Thank you, Tim. Thanks Bill, God bless America.
Let's continue with more. How do a chunk of self
identified liberal college students say that political violence in some
circumstances is acceptable?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Same number of conservative Republicans in college is three percent
sixty two percent to three percent all or wrong, including
the three percent. Bill Cunningham with you every day. You're
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