September 19, 2025 • 16 mins
Willie talks with the junior Senator from Ohio John Husted about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the looming Schumer Shutdown.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill Cunningham, the great American, of course, the junior Senator.
I'm not sure. I think he's junior centator. Maybe the
senior state of Ohio is John Houston. John Houston, welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Senator Houston, I want to get some reaction from you
on the murder of Charlie Kirk. Also, I just had
on about an hour ago a representative of Turning Point
(00:29):
USA Miami Chapter. I'm going to share some of those
comments with you. But first of all, from your level,
and I know he was a great assistant to Jade Vance.
And how did the assassination of Charlie Kirk affect Senator
John Houston.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And when you see a young person, particularly Charlie Kirk,
who did so much between you know, at the age
of thirty one, to go into college campuses, into the
belly of the beast where they were trying to do
cancel culture, and hear Charlie say, hey, you know, debate me,
prove me wrong, Let's have a conversation about these things,
you know, trying to to give young people a courage
(01:08):
to speak up. And and then the intellectual tools and
to make their voices heard in the platform, to make
their voices heard, and and then to have someone call
a guy like that a fascist and then and then
murder him. Uh, is is just despicable and our hearts
are broken.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But I'll tell you know it. Up here on Capitol
Hill there are a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Of young staff people right from all the offices, and
you could see, you know, Charlie Kirk was Charlie Kirk
was to them, you know what Rush Limbaugh was maybe
to a previous generation, or Bill Cunningham was to a
previous generation in Cincinnati, right. Uh, you know, it was
the person that sort of they.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Brought, they were brought up on.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And to see him uh struck down like that was
just hard for a lot of a lot of the
young people appear to take and they're struggling with it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And I'm seeing that with you know, so many cases.
It's just so sad.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Senator I played about twenty minutes ago the words of
Charlie Kirk. He did a podcast for Senator Mike Lee
of Utah in which he talked about the violence on
the left. The what about is is one hell of
a failed argument. We all condemn all political violence no
matter what. Even though House Democrats yesterday did not condemn
(02:31):
the political violence against Charlie Kirk, the same was not
true about the murder of State Representative Hortman in Minnesota.
That's a different story. But there appears to be a sewer,
and it's beneath the capital, it's beneath Cincinnati, it's beneath Chicago.
And what there's an alternative universe that exists that in
that universe, Charlie Kirk was a fascist. In that universe,
(02:56):
Donald Trump is is Adolf Hitler. He's a note in
that universe, as Senator John Eustad is someone who needs
to be taken out in one sense or another. And
I don't think the Democrats accept that whatsoever. For white males,
especially who spend their time on the dark Web, on
the Internet, disconnected to other people, not dating girls, no
(03:20):
sense of God, no sense of family, no sense of patriotism,
and they're lost in the world of gaming and porn,
and they develop their own set of principles in which
the murderer, whose name has never left my lips, believes
he's doing some greater cause by killing Adolf Hitler. Can
anything be done from a legislative level that indicates that
(03:43):
that kind of hate speech on the left must be
stopped or curtailed. Something must occur. The firing of Jimmy
Kimmel was occasion mainly because he had bad ratings and
bad revenues. But legislatively, do you sense on the left
of bubbling sewer that every now and then the lids.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, Bill, that's a lot to unpack right there, don't
I don't know that there's a legislative solution to it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It looks there has to be. There has to be
a you.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Know, a cultural outrage at what they're doing by saying
that anyone is comparable to Hitler. Nobody's comparable to Hitler.
He murdered seventy five million people. You call people fascists
and things like that. That's language that Then when when
you know, like these radicalized left leftists, like the guy
(04:35):
who shot Charlie Kirk, when they hear those things, they think, well,
I've got to do something about it. You know, I
hear people, you know, talking about this person like he's Hitler.
He's not Hitler. For goodness sakes, there's no comparison. And
this is crazy talk to even try to compare anything
that's going on in America today to what happened in
(04:58):
Nazi Germany in the thirties in forties.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And but it does radicalize people when you do this,
and then they try to take you know, they they
want to They see themselves as a hero in this story,
as somebody who's doing something bold and noble to save America.
That's the kind of environment those words are creating. And
then you see tragic events like Charlie Kirk happen, and
(05:23):
Charlie Kirk is not even you know, had his funeral yet,
and they are already shifting the conversation away from the
assassination of Charlie Kirk to their own victimhood again.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And it's and it's now it's troubling, you.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Know, when other figures have been assassinated. I look at
John Wilkes Booth who murdered Abraham Lincoln. He thought he
would be hailed as a hero. He thought he was
going into the South, into Virginia and he'd be welcome.
When Lee Harvey Oswald Mark murdered John F. Kennedy, he
thought he would be welcome and in the Cuba if
(06:01):
he wasn't caught after he killed police officer Tibbets in
the movie theater with the movie War as Hell was playing.
He thought he was a hero, and James ro Ray
murdered Martin Luther King Junior assassinated him. He thought, Okay,
I'm gonna be welcomed by the white supremacist movement. And
in this case the assassin. The murderer thought he was
(06:22):
doing the lord's work, that he'd make a he'd have
a getaway. He have a network of other left wingers
to support him. And I don't know how you fall
on that level of mental illness, but individuals do and
what it happens. I agree with you, Senator Houston. I
don't know what legislatively can be done to cure the
(06:42):
human heart to make someone believe that someone who believes
so strongly in God family. But in America it doesn't
have to.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's why we have to condemn anybody who will not
denounce this. I mean, you have to denounce political violence
or violence of any kind to set the standard for
the world, to set the community standard under which people.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You know, there used to be rules of of sort.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Of a code of morality and ethics which people would
operate in in the political sphere that we debated the
issues and we would disagree with someone's ideas, but we
didn't try to vilify the individual to the point that
we would stir people's emotions to the point that they
think that assassinating them is a good thing. And that's now,
(07:33):
that's now a standard in many cases, that's being set
on the political left. And and it's not tolerable. And
and look, my language, I always try I always tried
never to name call. I always try to characterize my
disagreement with the ideas that an individual has. I don't
(07:53):
I don't try to call someone a name. Uh, it's
not how I do things. And in that that's what
we need to do. Fight about the issue.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
This is Look, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
What Charlie Kirk was trying to do, trying to fight
about the ideas, fight about the issues.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You knew where we settle it. We settle it at
the ballot box.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And then, like any good sportsman or a fan of democracy,
you recognize that elections have consequences. You bear those consequences
for two years until you get a chance to vote again.
But that's how it's supposed to work, not through violence
to get our means, not through canceling people to get
our means.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Senator you said, let me give you a headline out
of this morning about ten thirty am. You might have
been busy and missed it. Nearly one hundred House Democrats
refuse to support resolution condemning political violence. And I read
that headline about what the House of Representatives past the
resolution on Friday condemning political violence and honoring Charlie Kirk.
(08:51):
But nearly one hundred Democrats refuse is support it, and
the we're all numbers impossible to ignore. Close to one
hundred Democrats bulked at denouncing political violence. So I went
back in time to June of this year. There was
a House resolution to condemn political violence and in a sense,
to honor Representative Melissa Hortman. Back in June, the House
(09:15):
unanimously passed a resolution without one objection, honoring Minnesota House
Democrat Representative Melissa Hartman and her husband Mark after they
were tragedically killed. I might add by a fellow Democrat
who was an appointee of Governor Tim Waltz. He went nuts,
dressed up like a cop and killed Melissa Hortman. So
percent of the Republicans in the House a couple hours ago.
(09:38):
I'm sorry. In June said, okay, we condemned political violence,
and we honored the life of Melissa Hartman. You had
nearly one hundred Democrats at eleven o'clock this morning refused
to support a resolution condemning political violence. Now you just said,
can we all agree you can't have political violence? Just
had one hundred Democrats say I'm not signing up for that.
What does that say?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You got me af off, Senator. I'm reading this story
and I'm thinking, what the hell's going on? And I thought, Okay,
they didn't want to honor Charlie Kirk. Hey, well okay,
But then I went back in time and every Republican
honored Melissa Hartman. Can you explain that to me?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I can't explain it to you. I can't explain it
to you. You know, I can just see you the
limited time I've.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Been here in Washington.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You just I think people are just are just sometimes
just scared of their own shadows.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Like somehow, you know, somehow, somebody's.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Going to say if you voted for this and you
were on the left, that that meant you supported what
Charlie Kirk stood for. No, that's not what it means.
That's not what it means at all, And don't try
to and don't try to suggest that somehow it does.
This is this is a statement. These these these are
these kinds of votes are statements of principle. They're a
(10:50):
statement that you honor a person's life who was assassinated
and you condemn any violence, which is a statement, a
forward looking statement that this is not how we settle
our problems. And the fact that they can't even vote
for that and go out and look their constituents in
(11:11):
the eye and explain why they voted for it is
you know, Bill, I don't have words for I don't understand.
I don't understand how this happens. I mean when when
the shooting occurred in Minnesota, you know, I was one
of the like a of course, like like you condemn
it and you offer your you know, your heart, your
(11:33):
heart hurts for people, and you condemn it and you
offer your prayers because that's what a civil society does
in the case of tragedy and unspeakable actions by a
deranged murderer assassin.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And that's just what we do.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And if you fail to set that standard as a
nation as a as a leader, then.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You are condoning that kind of.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Behavior used to In about ten days, one of these
things is going to happen again, which is a governmental shutdown.
The House of Representatives past a CR continuing resolution. Now
it goes to the Senate. Chuck Schumer called the Schumer
shut down yesterday said from the floor of your body
the Senate said a couple things. Number one, it must
(12:20):
be tied to an extension of Obamacare, and secondly, it
must be tied to an extension or payment to NPR,
the National Public Radio. I thought we won that battle already,
but Schumer and the Democrats will not vote in the
Senate to continue governmental funding and he uses as an
excuse Medicare substance I'm sorry, Obama subsidies and also NPR.
(12:46):
So how does this thing end in about ten days?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, the Schumer shutdown is up to Chuck Schumer. We
do not need to shut down the government. We have
the votes to keep it open if he'll just allow
a vote.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, he wants to to use this power to
to really just say, hey, you got to negotiate with me.
He doesn't want he doesn't even want to vote to
come to the floor because he knows that he will
have Democrats that will vote with us to keep the
government open. Remember this is the Chuck Schumer who literally
said last year when Joe Biden was president that we
(13:19):
need a clean cr we can't shut the government down.
It's irresponsible. And then now that Donald Trump's the president,
he has Trump derangement, Sinderman. He has to be a
post anything government that Donald Trump does. He wants to
shut the government down to try to make Donald Trump
look bad because he's more interested in defeating Trump than
he is and helping Americans.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And you know, I'll be here.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm I'm going to be ready to vote, ready to
keep the government open. I mean, it's it's it's incompetence
to do what he's trying to do. He'll play his
games and in the end we'll get this fixed. But
he needs to play his games first. He wants to
he wants to make it about him, and he wants
to make it look like he's tough, and he wants
to make it look like he's trying to fight for something,
(14:04):
when in the end, he's just playing games at the
expense of the American people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, if there's a shutdown, which at the Democrats goes
to the rules of the Senate, even though senate's controlled
by the Republicans, it takes sixty votes to do anything
in the Senate. And if Schumer sticks to his guns,
and he's going to try to make it look as
if Senator John used it and Bernie Marino and JD.
Vance and Donald Trump did it, and the media is
going to sing out of the same hymn book as
(14:31):
the Democrats going to be tough. But let's face it,
I think the American people figured out we have to
go a different route, play a different game. Senator John
used it. The odds of a shutdown for a short
period of time, you think are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm always going to be an optimist. But I look,
as I heard somebody say yesterday, never underestimate Chuck Schumer's
desire to play political games. And that's a fair point.
And he look, Bill, it's just frustrating to deal with
this guy because it's he's blocking a vote.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's really what he does.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And this process if you had to vote, if you
just got rid of the sixty votes, because they just vote,
just vote to say, really, what it is let's vote
so that we can have a vote, because if it's
about a clean cr that just keeps the government open
so we can continue to work through these details. Democrats,
many Democrats would vote for it too, and they just
(15:30):
he's just blocking it. It's all about him.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now, maybe Schumer's approaches quote a threat to democracy, which
democrats love him employ that phrase. That's the threat to democracy.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Threat to the democracy is a failure to do your
job as an elected official. And if he doesn't want
to do it, he should step aside and let somebody
else do it. But he's he's trying to block just
think one person trying to block the whole country from
having the services that people paid for.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well that's a threat to democracy right there. Senator John Houstad,
you're a great American and thanks for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Senator.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Willie, God bless America. Let's continue with more news coming
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see what happens tonight on news radio seven hundred WOL
Bill Cunningham, the great American, of course, the junior Senator.
I'm not sure. I think he's junior centator. Maybe the
senior state of Ohio is John Houston. John Houston, welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
Senator Houston, I want to get some reaction from you
on the murder of Charlie Kirk. Also, I just had
on about an hour ago a representative of Turning Point
(00:29):
USA Miami Chapter. I'm going to share some of those
comments with you. But first of all, from your level,
and I know he was a great assistant to Jade Vance.
And how did the assassination of Charlie Kirk affect Senator
John Houston.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
It's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And when you see a young person, particularly Charlie Kirk,
who did so much between you know, at the age
of thirty one, to go into college campuses, into the
belly of the beast where they were trying to do
cancel culture, and hear Charlie say, hey, you know, debate me,
prove me wrong, Let's have a conversation about these things,
you know, trying to to give young people a courage
(01:08):
to speak up. And and then the intellectual tools and
to make their voices heard in the platform, to make
their voices heard, and and then to have someone call
a guy like that a fascist and then and then
murder him. Uh, is is just despicable and our hearts
are broken.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
But I'll tell you know it. Up here on Capitol
Hill there are a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Of young staff people right from all the offices, and
you could see, you know, Charlie Kirk was Charlie Kirk
was to them, you know what Rush Limbaugh was maybe
to a previous generation, or Bill Cunningham was to a
previous generation in Cincinnati, right. Uh, you know, it was
the person that sort of they.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Brought, they were brought up on.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
And to see him uh struck down like that was
just hard for a lot of a lot of the
young people appear to take and they're struggling with it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And I'm seeing that with you know, so many cases.
It's just so sad.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Senator I played about twenty minutes ago the words of
Charlie Kirk. He did a podcast for Senator Mike Lee
of Utah in which he talked about the violence on
the left. The what about is is one hell of
a failed argument. We all condemn all political violence no
matter what. Even though House Democrats yesterday did not condemn
(02:31):
the political violence against Charlie Kirk, the same was not
true about the murder of State Representative Hortman in Minnesota.
That's a different story. But there appears to be a sewer,
and it's beneath the capital, it's beneath Cincinnati, it's beneath Chicago.
And what there's an alternative universe that exists that in
that universe, Charlie Kirk was a fascist. In that universe,
(02:56):
Donald Trump is is Adolf Hitler. He's a note in
that universe, as Senator John Eustad is someone who needs
to be taken out in one sense or another. And
I don't think the Democrats accept that whatsoever. For white males,
especially who spend their time on the dark Web, on
the Internet, disconnected to other people, not dating girls, no
(03:20):
sense of God, no sense of family, no sense of patriotism,
and they're lost in the world of gaming and porn,
and they develop their own set of principles in which
the murderer, whose name has never left my lips, believes
he's doing some greater cause by killing Adolf Hitler. Can
anything be done from a legislative level that indicates that
(03:43):
that kind of hate speech on the left must be
stopped or curtailed. Something must occur. The firing of Jimmy
Kimmel was occasion mainly because he had bad ratings and
bad revenues. But legislatively, do you sense on the left
of bubbling sewer that every now and then the lids.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Well, Bill, that's a lot to unpack right there, don't
I don't know that there's a legislative solution to it.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It looks there has to be. There has to be
a you.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Know, a cultural outrage at what they're doing by saying
that anyone is comparable to Hitler. Nobody's comparable to Hitler.
He murdered seventy five million people. You call people fascists
and things like that. That's language that Then when when
you know, like these radicalized left leftists, like the guy
(04:35):
who shot Charlie Kirk, when they hear those things, they think, well,
I've got to do something about it. You know, I
hear people, you know, talking about this person like he's Hitler.
He's not Hitler. For goodness sakes, there's no comparison. And
this is crazy talk to even try to compare anything
that's going on in America today to what happened in
(04:58):
Nazi Germany in the thirties in forties.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
And but it does radicalize people when you do this,
and then they try to take you know, they they
want to They see themselves as a hero in this story,
as somebody who's doing something bold and noble to save America.
That's the kind of environment those words are creating. And
then you see tragic events like Charlie Kirk happen, and
(05:23):
Charlie Kirk is not even you know, had his funeral yet,
and they are already shifting the conversation away from the
assassination of Charlie Kirk to their own victimhood again.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And it's and it's now it's troubling, you.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Know, when other figures have been assassinated. I look at
John Wilkes Booth who murdered Abraham Lincoln. He thought he
would be hailed as a hero. He thought he was
going into the South, into Virginia and he'd be welcome.
When Lee Harvey Oswald Mark murdered John F. Kennedy, he
thought he would be welcome and in the Cuba if
(06:01):
he wasn't caught after he killed police officer Tibbets in
the movie theater with the movie War as Hell was playing.
He thought he was a hero, and James ro Ray
murdered Martin Luther King Junior assassinated him. He thought, Okay,
I'm gonna be welcomed by the white supremacist movement. And
in this case the assassin. The murderer thought he was
(06:22):
doing the lord's work, that he'd make a he'd have
a getaway. He have a network of other left wingers
to support him. And I don't know how you fall
on that level of mental illness, but individuals do and
what it happens. I agree with you, Senator Houston. I
don't know what legislatively can be done to cure the
(06:42):
human heart to make someone believe that someone who believes
so strongly in God family. But in America it doesn't
have to.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
That's why we have to condemn anybody who will not
denounce this. I mean, you have to denounce political violence
or violence of any kind to set the standard for
the world, to set the community standard under which people.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You know, there used to be rules of of sort.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Of a code of morality and ethics which people would
operate in in the political sphere that we debated the
issues and we would disagree with someone's ideas, but we
didn't try to vilify the individual to the point that
we would stir people's emotions to the point that they
think that assassinating them is a good thing. And that's now,
(07:33):
that's now a standard in many cases, that's being set
on the political left. And and it's not tolerable. And
and look, my language, I always try I always tried
never to name call. I always try to characterize my
disagreement with the ideas that an individual has. I don't
(07:53):
I don't try to call someone a name. Uh, it's
not how I do things. And in that that's what
we need to do. Fight about the issue.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
This is Look, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
What Charlie Kirk was trying to do, trying to fight
about the ideas, fight about the issues.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You knew where we settle it. We settle it at
the ballot box.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And then, like any good sportsman or a fan of democracy,
you recognize that elections have consequences. You bear those consequences
for two years until you get a chance to vote again.
But that's how it's supposed to work, not through violence
to get our means, not through canceling people to get
our means.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Senator you said, let me give you a headline out
of this morning about ten thirty am. You might have
been busy and missed it. Nearly one hundred House Democrats
refuse to support resolution condemning political violence. And I read
that headline about what the House of Representatives past the
resolution on Friday condemning political violence and honoring Charlie Kirk.
(08:51):
But nearly one hundred Democrats refuse is support it, and
the we're all numbers impossible to ignore. Close to one
hundred Democrats bulked at denouncing political violence. So I went
back in time to June of this year. There was
a House resolution to condemn political violence and in a sense,
to honor Representative Melissa Hortman. Back in June, the House
(09:15):
unanimously passed a resolution without one objection, honoring Minnesota House
Democrat Representative Melissa Hartman and her husband Mark after they
were tragedically killed. I might add by a fellow Democrat
who was an appointee of Governor Tim Waltz. He went nuts,
dressed up like a cop and killed Melissa Hortman. So
percent of the Republicans in the House a couple hours ago.
(09:38):
I'm sorry. In June said, okay, we condemned political violence,
and we honored the life of Melissa Hartman. You had
nearly one hundred Democrats at eleven o'clock this morning refused
to support a resolution condemning political violence. Now you just said,
can we all agree you can't have political violence? Just
had one hundred Democrats say I'm not signing up for that.
What does that say?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You got me af off, Senator. I'm reading this story
and I'm thinking, what the hell's going on? And I thought, Okay,
they didn't want to honor Charlie Kirk. Hey, well okay,
But then I went back in time and every Republican
honored Melissa Hartman. Can you explain that to me?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I can't explain it to you. I can't explain it
to you. You know, I can just see you the
limited time I've.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Been here in Washington.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You just I think people are just are just sometimes
just scared of their own shadows.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Like somehow, you know, somehow, somebody's.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Going to say if you voted for this and you
were on the left, that that meant you supported what
Charlie Kirk stood for. No, that's not what it means.
That's not what it means at all, And don't try
to and don't try to suggest that somehow it does.
This is this is a statement. These these these are
these kinds of votes are statements of principle. They're a
(10:50):
statement that you honor a person's life who was assassinated
and you condemn any violence, which is a statement, a
forward looking statement that this is not how we settle
our problems. And the fact that they can't even vote
for that and go out and look their constituents in
(11:11):
the eye and explain why they voted for it is
you know, Bill, I don't have words for I don't understand.
I don't understand how this happens. I mean when when
the shooting occurred in Minnesota, you know, I was one
of the like a of course, like like you condemn
it and you offer your you know, your heart, your
(11:33):
heart hurts for people, and you condemn it and you
offer your prayers because that's what a civil society does
in the case of tragedy and unspeakable actions by a
deranged murderer assassin.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
And that's just what we do.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And if you fail to set that standard as a
nation as a as a leader, then.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You are condoning that kind of.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Behavior used to In about ten days, one of these
things is going to happen again, which is a governmental shutdown.
The House of Representatives past a CR continuing resolution. Now
it goes to the Senate. Chuck Schumer called the Schumer
shut down yesterday said from the floor of your body
the Senate said a couple things. Number one, it must
(12:20):
be tied to an extension of Obamacare, and secondly, it
must be tied to an extension or payment to NPR,
the National Public Radio. I thought we won that battle already,
but Schumer and the Democrats will not vote in the
Senate to continue governmental funding and he uses as an
excuse Medicare substance I'm sorry, Obama subsidies and also NPR.
(12:46):
So how does this thing end in about ten days?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Well, the Schumer shutdown is up to Chuck Schumer. We
do not need to shut down the government. We have
the votes to keep it open if he'll just allow
a vote.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, he wants to to use this power to
to really just say, hey, you got to negotiate with me.
He doesn't want he doesn't even want to vote to
come to the floor because he knows that he will
have Democrats that will vote with us to keep the
government open. Remember this is the Chuck Schumer who literally
said last year when Joe Biden was president that we
(13:19):
need a clean cr we can't shut the government down.
It's irresponsible. And then now that Donald Trump's the president,
he has Trump derangement, Sinderman. He has to be a
post anything government that Donald Trump does. He wants to
shut the government down to try to make Donald Trump
look bad because he's more interested in defeating Trump than
he is and helping Americans.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And you know, I'll be here.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I'm I'm going to be ready to vote, ready to
keep the government open. I mean, it's it's it's incompetence
to do what he's trying to do. He'll play his
games and in the end we'll get this fixed. But
he needs to play his games first. He wants to
he wants to make it about him, and he wants
to make it look like he's tough, and he wants
to make it look like he's trying to fight for something,
(14:04):
when in the end, he's just playing games at the
expense of the American people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, if there's a shutdown, which at the Democrats goes
to the rules of the Senate, even though senate's controlled
by the Republicans, it takes sixty votes to do anything
in the Senate. And if Schumer sticks to his guns,
and he's going to try to make it look as
if Senator John used it and Bernie Marino and JD.
Vance and Donald Trump did it, and the media is
going to sing out of the same hymn book as
(14:31):
the Democrats going to be tough. But let's face it,
I think the American people figured out we have to
go a different route, play a different game. Senator John
used it. The odds of a shutdown for a short
period of time, you think are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm always going to be an optimist. But I look,
as I heard somebody say yesterday, never underestimate Chuck Schumer's
desire to play political games. And that's a fair point.
And he look, Bill, it's just frustrating to deal with
this guy because it's he's blocking a vote.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's really what he does.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And this process if you had to vote, if you
just got rid of the sixty votes, because they just vote,
just vote to say, really, what it is let's vote
so that we can have a vote, because if it's
about a clean cr that just keeps the government open
so we can continue to work through these details. Democrats,
many Democrats would vote for it too, and they just
(15:30):
he's just blocking it. It's all about him.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now, maybe Schumer's approaches quote a threat to democracy, which
democrats love him employ that phrase. That's the threat to democracy.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Threat to the democracy is a failure to do your
job as an elected official. And if he doesn't want
to do it, he should step aside and let somebody
else do it. But he's he's trying to block just
think one person trying to block the whole country from
having the services that people paid for.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well that's a threat to democracy right there. Senator John Houstad,
you're a great American and thanks for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Senator.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Willie, God bless America. Let's continue with more news coming
up your home of the reds one last night. Let's
see what happens tonight on news radio seven hundred WOL
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