Bill Cunningham -- 8/8/25

Willie talks with Holly, the woman who was one of the victims of the infamous brawl, Sheriff Charmaine McGuffey talks about how her deputies are helping out the city of Cincinnati, Rich McHugh talks about his interview he conducted with Holly and Jack Buecker, president of the Fort Thomas Corvette Club, talks about his fundraiser for Alzheimer's happening at Hofbrauhaus this weekend.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Of course, reds Faceball takes off about five forties nine
in Pittsburgh, but until then Cincinnati has been the focus
in the nation's attention because of what happened about two
weeks ago at the beatdown of Holly and many others
at Fourth and Elm. Going to you and on now
is at Holly, who's been the victim of this terrible assault,
And Holly, welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first

(00:25):
of all, Holly, I think the American people would like
to know, how are you feeling this afternoon?

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Well today, So normally before noon I don't really talk
to people because it takes me about three or four
hours to be able to really get out of bed.
Put a heating pad on my throat and neck so
the swelling kind of goes down so I can talk better.
So I'm laying in a very dark room right now

(00:52):
because I'm sensitive delight with the heating pads on me,
so I'm still still trying to get myself move in today.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Holly, first of all, our condolences.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Secondly, Uh, I want to get a perspective from you
about how the event transpired. According to media accounts. You
were there in order to celebrate a girlfriend's a birthday.
You're having a good time. Can you kind of walk
us through what happened when the uh, when you intervene
as a good Samaritan to try to help that guy
who was getting the crap kicked out of him? What

(01:25):
was in your mind when you when you came to
his assistance.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I just I heard him crying out for God and
he was beaten to an ench of his life right
in front of me. And uh, you know, there were
one hundred people on the streets watching and filming, and
then nobody was Nobody was stopping into help. People were

(01:49):
stepping into kicks and punch and uh, you know, curb
stump him, but nobody was helping to save him.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
And as just as a mom, you know, my natural
instinct is to help, and that just kind of mama
bear kicked in and I just was like, I can't,
you know, And as a Christian too, I can't sit
there and listen to someone cry out to God and
beg for someone to help him. And I, you know,

(02:21):
I thought that that was my duty if no one
else is going to And sadly, I had thought that
if I jumped in and kind of was in between
him and everyone else and they would calm down and
it would stop. Because this had gone on for fifteen
twenty minutes, I want to say, I mean, the videos

(02:43):
do not do justice of how long this truly just
it kept going and going and going, and you know,
the police hadn't come at this time because none of
the people filming had called nine one one, which enrages
me and it should be illegal at that fact. But

(03:05):
that's when I thought, you know, I need to come
help him up, because if he stayed on the ground,
or if he had fallen down one more time, I
do think he would have been literally beat to death.
I didn't expect someone to punch me. I don't know why,
maybe because I'm a woman, and I don't in my

(03:26):
mind thinks that, you know, no man's gonna punch a woman.
They might punch other men, but a woman they'll be like, okay,
we've had our fill of beat down. But that's not
what happened. I got attacked as well for trying to
help someone, which you know, this should have never happened.

(03:48):
There should have been enough police out there patrolling, not
just in their cars, but walking on streets like they
used to when I was a kid and I went
to Cincinnati for the game or any events there were,
there was no one, you know, we were We were
just left to fit for ourselves, knowing that this was

(04:08):
one of the biggest crime events of the year that
comes every year.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
And Holly uh.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
According to the video I saw, and I it's hard
to watch it is. It's heartbreaking. You said at one
point you felt like your soul left your body. The
first person that contacted you was a woman who has
since been indicted along with the other five. But she
kind of pushed you. Walk us through when the woman
behind you kind of pushed you, and then the man

(04:38):
literally cole cockt you.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Oh, it's uh. It just shows just how how disgusting
some people can be, how just you know, evil or
soul with or whatever. Because she came up from behind
me when I was trying to just beg please stop uh,
and I just kept repeating it stop, please please, And

(05:04):
I guess that angered her so she came running from behind.
I never saw any of this coming. She came up
and attacked me from behind. I think there was another
woman that had also hit me at the exact same
time and then but the woman had pushed me towards
the man who cold cought me, and as well, I

(05:27):
never saw him coming because he got me from the
He kind of came from the side with just all
of his might like a UFC fighter and just punched
me as hard as you possibly could and knocks me out,
and I just you know, I remember waking up, and

(05:50):
you know something, some details that I wasn't comfortable talking
about until now because it was too hard on me
because mentally I'm just still not okay. But I do
believe that my soul didn't leave my body for a purpose,
because I do remember with I came to it. When

(06:11):
I opened my eyes, it was so right.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
I just saw bright lights everywhere, and I was so
confused or where I was what was going on.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Uh, you know, it could just be ahead.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Trauma or I could have you know, you could have
been the lights of when you people talk about when
they die. But luckily that that kind kind woman kept
just saying wake up, wake up, wake up, and I
think that it brought me back.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
That's that's what I just keep replaying over and over.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Is uh, you know, my my soul didn't leave my body.
When I saw this lights that I I truly had
a near death experience, and it was it is just terrify.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
As far as when you were on the pavement and
blood's coming out of the side of your mouth, you're dazed.
I thought that woman, that woman's dead. You had the
same sense you say you felt like your soul left
your body, but you came back. And at that point,
what happened from you when you were knocked out, bleeding
in the streets of Cincinnati and then a woman kind
of bend over you to help you, to maybe keep

(07:22):
others from beating you.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, she protected me. I I'm forced to watch the
video because I have to, you know, do to everything happening. Obviously,
I'm gonna have to go to court in.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
TESTI by and talk about it and uh. And watching
the video, I could see one of the guys who
was curb something someone else. It appeared that he was
coming running at my body while my my life was
body with my eyes open, blood just comes gushing out.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
It looked like he was coming over to to, you know,
possibly curb stop me as well while I was down.
And God loved her for protecting me. Because earlier, when
the fight first started, she had got attacked by the
same woman who came and attacked me, and she kind
of ran and was able to get out of it.
But she was so brave that she came and protected

(08:20):
me even though she knew she was probably going to
get attacked. So I do, I do believe in humanity,
and I really appreciate her for that. I haven't I
haven't been able to say that to her because I
don't I don't know her, I don't know her name,
But thank you for saving.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
My life.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
At that moment that you said this one on fifteen
or twenty minutes, when you look at the video, you're thinking, okay,
this thing is as short up and down.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
One person called. Do you know who? The one person was?
The donal nine one one?

Speaker 3 (08:55):
I do, and I didn't know it until I heard
the nine one one call, and then I confirmed it
with someone else who does know this person. But it
was one of the victims who had just got curb
stumps and kicked and punched and attacked by five, six,

(09:16):
seven people. He was able to get away and called
nine one one after she had been beaten. So no,
no one, no one recording who was out there called
nine one one.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
As far as the nine one one call, I would
anticipate you and you hope that when the police arrived,
they would have come and force dispersed the crowd, take
care of the mortally wounded, the injured, get the ambulances there.
What happened when those two Cincinnati police officers are arrived
on the scene.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Well, first, I want to go back to the nine
one one call. I've listened to it a few times,
and every time I listen to it, I actually get
more upset at the way that was handled. It was
almost like the lady was trying to talk him out
of even sending them one. She just kept being like,
so people are leaving, do you want us to send
someone or not? And he said there were about twenty

(10:16):
or thirty people. You know some of them are leaving. Uh,
you know. And keep in mind, on the call, this
man had already been knocked out cold, kicked in the head.
He's distorted, and on the nine to one one call,
she just is very short with him, is like, well,
do you want me to send someone or not? It

(10:36):
shouldn't even be an option. If somebody says there's they
even jump by twenty people, then they nine to one
one should automatically say someone's on the way, helps on
the way, So it starts that's that's level one, and
then level two. When the police show up, there's two
two cop cars, and they don't call for backup. They

(11:00):
don't call for ambulance, you know. And I was told
that there were literally only a few officers on duty
and the whole city of Cincinnati that night, which on
one of the number one crime weekends of the year.
Why would you only staff a few police officers, So

(11:22):
I don't even know if they had people to call
for backup. And I don't blame the police officers. Yes
they mishandled how they they treated us, but you know,
or the situation, But I blame the higher up. I
blame the police chief or whoever it was you was
supposed to stop accordingly knowing for the past fifteen years,

(11:44):
that is a fact that this is one of the
highest crime nights of the year.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
This Jazz Fusti and Holly, what about do they get
your name? You must have been in horrible condition. There's
blood in your I've seen the photos of you that
night with blood all over your body, your eyes are days.
Did the police interview you, get your name anything like that.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
No, no, not at all. The others were a few
of the victims were very persistent on giving their information
the officers or security or whoever it was. I've for
different stories that it wasn't even police officers, it was security.

(12:26):
Other people say it was police officers, so that I
don't know. But nonetheless, they they were not trying to
get our information. I think they were acting like we
were the hoodlums that started it because of our their
shirts being torn and blood on their faces. I don't
my brain still doesn't understand any of why they would

(12:50):
think that we didn't need help. But no, my name
was not even they didn't even ask her my name.
I think one of the other victims gave it to
the detective the next day when he started looking into it,
and I just, you know, I got in my uber
and left because I was like, this is a joke.

(13:11):
They don't care, absolute disgrace, and you know, I should
just go home and sleep it off and just forget
this happened. I wasn't even gonna file a report because
I was like, the police don't care. What's the point
They're not even going to look into it.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
What was your condition when you got into the uber?
Your physical Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, obviously I had a concussion that's still going on
two weeks later. It's it's intense and severe, but I
had blood all over me. The poor uber driver definitely was.
He was scared and was just kind of like, you know,
are you sure you want to get in? And I'm like,
please just go because I since no backup was called,

(13:56):
I thought that the riot would start up again, or
you know, whatever word you want to call it. I
don't want to use the wrong word here, but to me,
whatever it was, it had gone on for so long.
I was in fear that it was going to start again.
So I just wanted to get the heck out of there.
And especially if the police were not trying to get

(14:18):
my information, then what was the point of staying. So
so yeah, I went home and just went to bed
with my concussion, which is wild to me looking back,
I'm like I should have. I could have died in
my sleep.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Well, the police did not take your information, did not
get your name, did not arrest anyone to enough foul reports.
According to one report, they leaned up against their police
car and folded their arms.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yes, yeah, I remember the gentleman doing it. I can't
quite remember this female, but the gentleman, out of everything,
that's kind of glorryed to me. That's one thing that
I remember because when he had his arms crossed, just
being very nonchalant, that's when I was like, I'm not
canceling my uber. I'm getting in and I'm leaving and

(15:11):
I'm getting out of this town. But it's sad because
Cincinnati has so much to offer. But at that moment,
I was like, this town has just gone to hell.
I call it. I call it Gotham City now, where
it's just run rampant with all of the crime, and
I feel like it is being condoned and encouraged by

(15:34):
you know, council. Like what the councilwoman said about me
getting the beatdown that I deserved or something like that
has me just confused. I'm like, no, wonder Cincinnati has
just gone to gone down so bad because there's no consequences.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Holly Yah Victoria Parks is the president pro tema council.
She said quote they beg for the beatdown. It's kind
of a silly question. But did you beg for that beatdown?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
No, so I did not ask anyone to beat me down.
And the next day, I think what's even more upsetting
is the fact that she said I'm a grown woman
and I can say what I want and I stand
by my statement, or something like that, And I just
want to say to her, yes, you are a grown woman,

(16:28):
but you can have opinions behind closed doors. And when
you're in a position of yours and power position of yours,
you you going public saying that we got to beat
down we deserve means that you want these thugs and
criminals to continue to go on the streets and do

(16:51):
these heinous crimes. And your job is to protect us,
not to put us in harm's way. So I'm just
at there are no where to describe how I feel
about specifically her comments, and it's obvious that she does
not have the public's best interest.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Uh Holly, there were those reporting of racial epithets were
used against the white victims. Can you say whether or
not you can recall any racial epithets, are sexual epithets
directed at you or the others?

Speaker 3 (17:31):
I definitely remember racial stores towards us, and you know
I I don't want to comment too much because I
don't know what I can and can't say as far
as there is still an ongoing investigation. But yes, I
can vouch that there were racial slurs being thrown at

(17:52):
the white people.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
It's the Holly Law, which I talked to Sanaa Marino.
You've spent time with him. What would Holly's Law entail?
And I would think this would fly through the legislature.
But nonetheless, what would you like? Nothing good can come
of this, But is there some element of Holly's Law
that may help?

Speaker 6 (18:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
No, And that's the thing where I don't really want
to make it a whole like black and white. Yes,
there were racial slurs thrown out, but I think just
the fact that the judges have just been so gentle
on these thugs and criminals. None of them should have
been on the street to begin with. They should have

(18:34):
been in jail for some of their if you guys
could look up their crime. Yeah, it's disturbing that they
were even out in general public. And the fact that
as citizens, I think that it should be a law,

(18:57):
or it should be criminal to there and record these
heinous violent crimes. You know, first off, encouraging it.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
Awful.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, shame on them morally, But I think as a
good Samaritan, it should be a law that they have
to call nine one one before they're allowed to video,
you know, call nine on one, say this is the
street I'm at. There's thirty people jumping five people and
there's like one hundred people on the street watching.

Speaker 8 (19:30):
Please get here.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Then they can hang up in video because there were
plenty more footage, you know. But I think it should
be illegal. And that's what Hollyolaw, you know, we're kind
of pushing for. Is It's not just you know, the
police officers. They're severely understaffed, and you know, it's scary
for them out there too. And I think it starts

(19:51):
with the top, but it also starts with us as humans,
as good Samaritans. You know, don't jump in like I did.
That was outrageous of me to think that I could
help stop it or help to save this man's life.
But if nine one wanted been called by anyone who
got out their fund to record first, the police would

(20:13):
have been their way before I would have ever had to.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And they had to come with the attitude we have
victims of crime, We have to help you. Lastly, Holly,
what message would you like to give to the mayor?
I have to have puival.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
I just want to say it's the mayor.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
I want change to start happening. I want the streets
to be safe. I want you guys to all start
putting your egos aside, whether it's politicians or share it
versus police, and this is my territory. Let's all come
together and start figuring out a solution and figuring out

(20:52):
how to keep the streets safe, because at this point
it has almost gotten to the point of no return.
Just how awful the crime is and it's not working.
Whatever you guys are doing is not working. So let's
do the opposite. Let's try and come together for the solution.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know, flowery words and rhetoric is nice, but action
is required.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Hollie.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I'm going to give out later how the American people
can assist you in this regard, but once again, our
condolences on your visit to our city and hopefully your
word so have a measurable impact. I'm glad the soul
never left your body and you're still with us.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yes, thank you so much, sir, and God bless you
for sharing this story to where good can.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Come out of it.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
And that's what I really want to make sure people know.
We need to make sure good comes out of this,
so this does not happen to your mother or daughter
or loved one.

Speaker 9 (21:47):
Let it.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Let me be the last one. This happens too.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Hollie, you're a great American and thanks for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Thank you, Holly, your mama Bear. Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
We'll talk again. Thank you, Ollie.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Well, let's continue with more news next at your home
of the Red's News Radio seven hundred.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Who I understand from a videos I've seen on social
media last night, I've become a social media maven because
of because of ice Cube, I'm connecting out of the
web ways i've never been before. And there's lots of
videos of in uniform Hemny County Deputy sheriffs arresting people
in downtown Cincinnati. And as you may know, there's a
gentleman's agreement between the county and the city that you

(22:29):
stay on your side of the street, we stay on ours,
and the County Sheriff's Department handles the jail complex in
the courthouse. The rest of us up to the city.
Understand from media source, namely me, that the mayor called
the sheriff and said, Charmaine, you got a few extra
deputies you can send our way. The answer was yes,
you might. Recall Charmaine was endorsed by Simon Lees to

(22:53):
be the next sheriff and she is the current sheriff
now for about five or six years. So and Shaan
Donnoh and the chief deputy said let's and so she
might have a little different attitude toward law enforcement and
some of the social welfare workers in the city. So
she's gonna come on with us in about twenty minutes.
Talk about that telephone call and what the Sheriff's department
is going to do. All hands on deck is what

(23:14):
I say. All hands on deck. Plus for those who
want to help in one way or another. I know
Tony Bender wants to. If you go to a website
give Send Go, Give e Send, Send Go, Give send
go dot com to help Holly recover from the Ohio
mob attack.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's available.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
And she's going to have long term medical needs and
I'm sure psychological services. She has three kids and she
can't work, and I understand she's going to move location
soon from the part of the tri State to a
different location because of the number of death threats she's received.
The nuts are coming out of the clauset. Yes, that's right,

(23:54):
death threats against Holly. And one other thing brought up
by a good friend of mine. Imagine if you will,
that the fools, the mysceriants, the outcasts there were videotaping
what was going on. If they did not put that
on social media as like an emblem of glory, look
what we did to someone. If that had not gotten

(24:15):
out that way, none of this would be happening the
last two weeks. None of it we didn't know. I
was first notified about eight forty five a m. Saturday morning,
about five hours after the event, from a police source
of mine, who said, did you see this? And I
said no, I said where is this? They said, Cincinnati,
And that's what started. And I sent the video out

(24:35):
to a whole bunch of people that I know in
the media, and the rest is history. If that event
had not transpired with the with the trophies being taken
by the bystanders, that this would have simply died on
the vine. I am told that one or two of
the other so called white victims maybe out of the
country at the present point because of immigration problems. So

(24:58):
but Holly had nothing to with allegedly saying the end
word or not. Of course, when I talked to Ken
Kober the other day, he said, we don't have good
evidence of that. Allegedly one of those big, tall white
guys that was bald slapped someone on a mistaken price
on some marijuana. And if that happened, so bit that
gives no excuses. But Holly had nothing to do with that.

(25:20):
She was a mama bear who simply wanted to help
someone in need and she's paid the ultimate price. I'm
not sure of the conditions of the other ones who
had their heads tweet it like footballs, and they haven't
come out, and I think maybe in the future they will.
I know lawyers have contacted me about coming on there
to talk about it. I said, look, I want lawyers

(25:43):
are great, we all love lawyers, you know that, but
I like to have on the actual victims, and that's
being assessed as I speak two weeks later. But also
hate crimes. You heard Holly talk about racial epithets hurled
during the time of the vicious assaults on the so
called white victims that normally would be a hate crime.
I know Bernie Marino is on this thing big time,

(26:05):
that the Feds are out there waiting to see what
the States has done. Now today six suspects connected to
the downtown. It's not a brawl, it's a beatdown or indicted,
and they're facing up to thirty years in prison, and
every one of them with previous criminal records, including Aisha DeVaughn,
the most recent one arrest that had a smirk on
her face. She had two wards out for her arrest

(26:28):
when she was apprehended, and she has a serious previous
criminal record, along with the other ones who shouldn't been
out of jail at all for other offenses they committed.
And the key element here, and I'm gonna dress this
with the sheriff and I addressed it with Holly, is
what about the judicial system the judges themselves. If you
have an attitude that arm robbers how to get a

(26:49):
four hundred dollars cash bond and get them out as
soon as possible, if you have an attitude that they
beg for it. If you have an attitude, let's pay
arm robbers like Vice Mayor lemon Kearney says about one
thousand dollars a month not to commit more arm robberies,
including travel vouchers all over the country and having a
mayor who's on vacation and schedules his vacation during the

(27:10):
busiest weekend of the year then comes back and makes
us feel guilty for asking him to do his job
because his son, five year old son was having a
birthday party in Vancouver, Canada. If that's your attitude, we
got a problem and it needs to be fixed or not.
Most cities doesn't fix They don't fix the problem. Only

(27:32):
one Cincinnati to be Memphis or Saint Louis. I'm watching
an NBA podcast the other day and the NBA players
were talking about which American cities they don't want to
go to it's too violent for them. The two or
three mentioned were Memphis and Atlanta, and also mentioned was Portland.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
They don't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Normally, the players like to go out after Roy say
a little bit of party in the clubs. Something Tony
Benner likes to do is party in the clubs. But
nonetheless they're saying, don't go go from the hotel and
the bust to the arena, get from the arena back
to the hotel. Might want to party in your room
a little bit, whatever the hell that means, But don't
go into the clubs because you're gonna get hurt. Those

(28:13):
are the NBA players. Kenyon Martin did a podcast, I
can't you'd be stupid to go walk around cities.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
What are you kidding me? No, No, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
That's what the.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
NBA players are saying. And in Los Angeles it is
known among the so called elite that you have a
throwaway car. And I said, what's a throwaway car? Well,
if you have a nice car and you're driving with
your significant other and you look like you have a
lot of money, how to stop wid or stop sign,
there's going to be a three P fifty seven pointed
towards your head saying stop the car, get out, we

(28:48):
want all your stuff. So you have a throwaway car,
dressed down, have an ugly looking car, don't comb your hair,
look like a bum, and the arm robbers will let
you go. You want Cincinnati to be like that? Well,
right now the perception is it is like that. The
perception right now is we're down there with Portland and
Chicago and Saint Louis and Memphis and Atlanta and Washington,

(29:11):
d C. Where interns are killed, good Samaritans are beaten
within an end of their life, and your gun down
on the streets on a regular basis, and the president's
about to take over DC himself. Whatever it takes, we
have to return public safety. Cincinnati is maybe the thirty
fifth largest city in the country, but I always thought
my place was special.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I love living.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
You know, people like Trumpy and Collinsworth, Jerry Springer would
come here, maybe from elsewhere, but once they get here,
they don't leave because they love this place. In the
last three or four years, it's devolved into Gotham City.
I have a text, and I promised him I would
not share his identity and his name because it is

(29:51):
so clear. But this is one of the great politicians
in the history of the city of Cincinnati. So he
just sends me a text unconnected to my desire to
receive it, and I said, okay, I'll get it out there.
He said, quote, and I'll show Tony Benner the name.
Here's the guy right there. Maybe I shouldn't say, God,

(30:11):
there's the person. I don't agree with everything you said
only about ninety percent.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Keep it up.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
As a thirty year resident of downtown, I can tell
you the deterioration of the conditions here in the last
four years have been dramatic, and those are from people
who love this town well. I had John Barrett on
about a week or two ago talking about the tennis tournament.
He has to have his own police department. Guess what.

(30:38):
Procter and Gamble have their own police department. The restaurant
owners we need help get here. And when you talk
to Ken Kober, who's a good man and well intended,
they're stretched to the limit. But then when cops show
up these two police officers that morning, about three fifteen
am on Saturday two weeks ago, and folded their arms

(31:02):
and leaned against a police cruiser and simply did not
act as if they were out a crime scene. I'm
waiting for their bodycam. I wonder if Fiji's going to
release the bodycam of those two police officers who clearly
did not get close to doing their job. How many
cops are Placid and Flasset are used to doing nothing

(31:24):
because of the demands of city council to do nothing
about crime. Who have the intrinsic attitude. Now that guess what,
I'm not going to do my job. I'm not going
to arrest people for using drugs. I'm not going to
arrest people for fornicating on city streets. I'm not going
to arrest people who are truant or they're engaged in

(31:45):
other lifestyle time. I'm not going to arrest somebody on
Central Parkway putting needles in their arm. I'm not going
to arrest anybody. City Council's taken I'm okay, you're okay approach,
and about half the police department says, you know what,
I'm good. I'm not going hands on. I'm not gonna
shoot anybody unless I really have to. And if I
come to this scene what has been called as a

(32:06):
race riot in downtown Cincinnati, what blood in the streets
with women look like they went through five rounds of
Mike Tyson, I'm gonna fold my arms, lean up against
the police car, and not take a report, not find
out what happened, not talk to Holly, just see can
we get let's get an ambulance there immediately.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Is that the attitude you want from city police?

Speaker 9 (32:28):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I don't think so. So Gotham. We got a problem.
Do we have the right leadership?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Huh, raise your hand if you think we have the
right leadership. I agree, we don't have the right leadership.
You have the opportunity in two and a half months
to change completely the leadership of this town. Are you
going to do it? Is the status quo? Okay with you? You
want Cincinnati to get this kind of publicity, You're happy
with the leadership in this town from city council who

(32:56):
says the crime victims beg to be beaten? Is that
what you you think we should pay arm robbers one
thousand dollars a month or more not to commit more
arm robberies?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Is that what you want? Ultimately we get the.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Government we deserve, and that worries me greatly in certain
parts of the tri State.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Let's continue with more stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Coming up next will be UH Charmaine McGuffey to talk
about a report, a telephone call she had with the
mayor and more and the consequences of deputy sheriffs now
patrolling downtown Cincinnati, including the State Highway patrol. And next
up will be the National Guard. Bill Cunningham, News Radio
seven hundred WW I'm on the county. She spent in

(33:39):
office now about six or seven years, been in law
enforcement about thirty to thirty five years. Endorsed by yours
truly and also by Simon L. Lease when she ran
for sheriff. And it's ho or have her with me
again and Charmaine McGuffey, Sheriff, welcome again to the Bill
Cunningham Show and Sheriff. I've received some pictures in some
video of Hamley County Deputy Sheriff's in uniform making your

(34:00):
rest in downtown Cincinnati off campus that is a right
from the courthouse. Can you tell the American people what's
happening with the Sheriff's office making a rest in the
city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
Yeah. Sure, and thanks Bill for having me on. You know,
we have extended our campus, so we have a county
campus that is a boundary around the courthouse and County building,
and that courthouse, that Court Street corridor that extends all
the way up to Ray Street is what we have

(34:34):
claimed is our county campus. It's just an extended part
of it. It reaches over to the public Library and
over to Central Parkway, so you know we are there.
We're a uniform presence, and we are acting as we
do as the police, as a law enforcement so I'm

(34:56):
not surprised that someone's seen as me making the rest
and uh, you know we are helping out. Uh we
uh certainly stepped up to an ask and uh, you know,
we want to we want to make the streets safer
for everyone, and we've been very successful in the last
couple of days.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
And Sheriff McGuffey, was this request that by a chief
of police Fiji or someone else or was there not
a request?

Speaker 8 (35:24):
No, there was a request because we want to look,
we want to play well with others, right, we want
to respect people's boundaries and different policing agencies boundaries. We
work well with all the police agencies in Hamilton County
and it was a request. The mayor you know, talked
to me a bit and we decided that if we
extend the county campus there, that would be a natural

(35:47):
progression for us. And you know, it's a it's a
help because I do know that Cincinnati police officers they're
working hard, they're out there, they're they're making arrests also
and so forth. But look, there's just not enough of
us to go around and so we are helping out
in that way, and we have made arrests. We've made

(36:07):
several arrests so far.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Is this at the cost of Sycamore Township or Green
Township or Columbia? Is this a subtraction edition reallocation because
if I live in a township and I see the
township not covered because the sheriff's departments downtown, is that
at the cost of some other jurisdiction.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
No.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
In fact, you know, Bill, what we did is we
sat down. You know, I have some of the brightest
minds in the criminal justice arena sitting at my table
and my captains, majors and so forth. We sat down
and we crafted a plan that is funded by the
city because we are within the city limits. And we

(36:50):
also made this plan something that would not pull from
our regular patrols that the township's sponsor and fund and
so forth. So this is a special duty that we
have posted, and there are officers who have agreed to
help out, and it's really much more of an overtime

(37:10):
basis than it is anything else. And thereby we're able to,
you know, increase our numbers because our officers are you know,
they don't like they don't like watching some of the
things that go on that have gone on in this
arena that are just simply lawlessness. And we know we
can help. We know we can make a difference, and

(37:33):
the city is helping to fund that.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Is there room and the Justice center.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
You've told me before that the Justice Center the jail
is essentially a large mental hospital that there's a lot
of those who should be in some other mental facility.
Is there room in the Hamlet County jail for twenty
thirty fifty one hundred more criminals to be housed there?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Do you have the room in the jail?

Speaker 8 (37:56):
We certainly do have the room in the jail. And
I'm going to say this to every person who lives
in Hamilton County. I'll make room in the jail. You know,
there are lots of ways. I've run that jail for many, many,
many years, and I understand how jails work. I understand
what happens when we get overcrowded. I understand what to
do when there's overcrowding, and ways to continue to treat

(38:18):
people well, continue to house and incursory people in good
environments even though we're overcrowded. If it comes to that
we're not overcrowded. We have room, and we're going to
make room because look, you know, if you don't have
law and order, what do you have. Really? I mean everybody,

(38:39):
and I'm do mean everybody in Hamilton County, race, creed, color,
political origin doesn't matter. They all want to live in
safe neighborhoods. They want to know that they can put
their kids out into the yard to let them play
and things like that without you know, having to sit
there and worry whether they're going to come back. For God, So,

(39:01):
you know, I think we're all on board. Many many,
many people are on board in Hamilton County and we're
doing it the right way.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Bill.

Speaker 8 (39:08):
Here's the other thing. I brought the Mental Health Board
to the table, Greater Cincinnati Behavioral Health to the table,
the addiction services to the table, homeless organizations to the
table because they are helping us. You know, we need
them in this arena. When we do arrest people, or
even when we don't, there are ways that we can

(39:30):
drop them off. We can drop people off who are
experiencing crisis and people that will take care of them.
So we've been very responsible in our efforts here.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Sheriff McGuffey.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You're a lifelong Cincinnati and went to University of Cincinnati.
Started at the workhouse thirty five forty years ago, A
long time ago. And when you travel the nation and
you talk to your compatriots around the Buckeye State as
a law enforcement official, are you offended by what happened
two weeks ago?

Speaker 7 (40:00):
I am?

Speaker 8 (40:01):
I absolutely am, And you know, I'm going to feel
much like everyone else. And again, this crosses racial lines.
This isn't something that hey, you know, you're of a
certain you know, black or white, and this is the
side you need to land on. Hold on a minute. Okay,

(40:22):
I'm not in charge of who gets arrested in that arena.
I'm not. My investigators aren't investigating it and so forth.
But you know, I think Chief Fiji is correct when
she says when people act badly, Now they're deciding because
they have the investigators as to what really went on.
But I can tell you that there were people who

(40:43):
acted badly black and white. Okay, I mean, I'm just
going to stay it out. And you know, when you
have a situation like that, the best thing to do
is get the police there in the most timely manner.
You can you know? And that means asking people to
call nine right, You've got to give us a chance

(41:04):
to intervene in a horrific situation like that. Nobody wants
to see that, nobody wants to be involved in it.
And as you saw on some of the video, there
were black men who were trying to diffuse that situation.
They were trying to corral people and say, hey, let's
just move on and just you know, let's let this go.

(41:26):
So I'd just like people to take in the entire
picture when we.

Speaker 7 (41:30):
Look at that.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I have a text here from a note at Cincinnati
and who said the last two three four years, things
have gotten worse, not better. Do you have a sense
that things are worse than they are today? Was this
a singular event or was this a culmination of things
happening all over town that maybe the police are overwhelmed,
maybe they don't have the right facilities, whatever it might be.

(41:52):
Do you have a sense of things are getting better,
getting worse or about the same.

Speaker 8 (41:57):
I can tell you right now from this point on,
they're going to get better. I can tell you that.
But I can also tell you that, yes, what I've
seen in the criminal justice system as a whole, and
I don't mean to say just one police department, et cetera.
What I've seen is a little bit of I think

(42:17):
the boundaries have gotten a little blurry there, honestly, and
I think we need to. I think we need to,
you know, call it in some and say, look, guys,
and it is and that's exactly what we're going to do.
Things are going to get better. I promise you that,
And that is exactly what law enforcement leaders do.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Chief Thiji talked about the legal system and the fact
that judges for somebody getting a four hundred dollars cash
bond when you got a previous criminal record. I don't
know how you get to the judges. That's difficult. Heck,
I'm married to one, but nonetheless it is hard to
get to the judges. Is that part of the difficulty.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
Well, I'd tell you what has to happen in this arena,
and I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, and I certainly
don't want anyone targeting judges. That is absolutely out of bounds.
But what I will tell you is we all need
to come to the table, and that is something that
needs to happen on a regular basis. And I think
then with dialogue, understanding you know, all sides of the issue,

(43:18):
I think we're going to have a much better outcome.
And I do have meetings scheduled, you know, not necessarily
with all the judges. I can't tell a judge what
to do. I don't think anyone should be able to.
But I can invite them to the table, and I
believe many of them will come because they have input
to you know, they're bound by certain legal boundaries as well,

(43:41):
and I think the public needs to understand what those are. So,
you know, as we start the conversations and get the
criminal justice system working, and that's EMU, that's probation, that's judges,
that's the jail, that's law enforcement. I mean, there are
so many arms out there, and we will we'll bring

(44:04):
this situation to bear and it's going to get better.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Lastly, Sheriff mcuffey, when you had your conversations with the
mayor after pure reval, was there a time limit to this?
Can you do it indefinitely or is it just for
the next time until till September or October?

Speaker 8 (44:20):
Well, I tell you I always I always like to
do things in a very increment way. And by that
I mean, you know, we've created this as a pilot, right,
so we can see where some of the gaps might be,
we can work out some of the kinks, and then
we're going to come back to the table in a
couple of months here in a month or so, and

(44:42):
we're going to continue to look at that and say, Okay,
what worked, well, what did what do we want to continue?
So I can promise you we're going to have a
continued collaboration with the brave men and women from Cincinnati
Police Department. And you know we appreciate them a great deal.
Everyone should, and you know we're all in it.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Together, all hands on deck.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Sheriff McGuffey, once again, thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show. And I think all of us pulling the
same direction is the best way to go. But Sheriff,
thank you very much, and you continue to have a
great afternoon.

Speaker 8 (45:17):
Thank you, Yes, sir, thank you, God bless you.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Let's continue with more, Sheriff McGuffey, News Radio seven hundred WW.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
You know you and I know that the.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Terrible injury suffered by Holly and many others are life long.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
It's not going to change anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
From a public policy viewpoint, I would hope that those
two Cincinnati cops who showed up at the scene leaned
against their car, folded their arms at three point thirty
am on Saturday morning, about thirteen days ago, are coming
up on some information from Fiji's about why they did that.

(45:56):
When you come upon that scene, would you anticipate it
if it's your mother, your daughter, your grandmother, your sister,
or your auntie, that when she's beaten and bloodied, disoriented
several of them, shall we say we're in extremely poor
physical condition. To take reports from those effected, to say, okay,
what happened here? And talk to Holly, talk to the

(46:19):
other gentlemen who were beaten their heads were treated like
footballs kicked by Evan McPherson, and find out what happened,
how did it happen. So from a public policy perspective,
I would hope Thiji and Share along the city manager
would call in those two police officers. I guess the
body cam would have been operational right and find out

(46:41):
what happened. Holly is saying they showed little concern for
her injuries and no concern for the serious felonies being committed.
They were there first on the scene, and now this
morning all six had been indicted for aggravated robbery and
felonius assault, aggravated assault, etc. Each of them are facing

(47:02):
about thirty years in jail. But those crimes are serious.
So if officers on duty come to the scene of
that kind of racial put down, knockout game, horrible assaults,
racial epithets were hurled at the so called white people.
According to Holly, during the beatings, that you would anticipate

(47:26):
the police would be serious about finding out what happened,
How did it happen? How about rendering first aid to
the victims? Holly at that point needed first aid? Was
it provided?

Speaker 9 (47:37):
No?

Speaker 8 (47:38):
They?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
According to Holly, they looked annoyed that she was even
present in wanting her name taken. She wobbled to pick
up site for uber, went home easily could have died
in the night of an embolism or something else. Then
sought medical care, and she thought, why pursue this? The
Cincinnati police don't care. They send two guys who blew

(48:02):
the whole thing off as no big deal. As things
turn out, isn't it a big deal? But the cops
on scene said We're not going to take a report.
I'm not going to ask any we're not going to
investigate anything, and so that, to her is among the
more troubling aspects of this, along with the fact that
the only person at Dowed nine to one one was

(48:23):
one of the victims who made his way to the
side of a car in Dowed nine to one one,
and even the operator then and there's a transcript of this,
didn't appear real interested. Fourth and Elm, the heart of
the city, right in front of the convention center. I'm
going to spend eight hundred million dollars on a brand
new convention center and a big, bright hotel where blood's

(48:44):
running in the streets. And our police, not all police,
but those two cops did not do their duty that night.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Why not this thing?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
If it wasn't a video posted to social media, uh,
taken by those committing the assaults, is more or lessen
a trophy of what they did to those six people,
we would know nothing about it. And when the black
community says, this happens all the time to us, but
you don't care, well I do care, and I want
to have all citizens safely to be able to walk

(49:14):
around the streets of Cincinnati, when now you can't.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
One thirty one home of your Red's news Radio seven
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Speaker 10 (49:21):
To tackle racing down the sideline touchdown Nice Bengals Chamarge
Chase picking up where he left off last year when
he left the NFL with seventeen touchdowns, and Keihlee Ringo's
athletics supporter is sitting on the playing surface.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
It is.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Hell Hello Byett nom Skulls. I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Saying, how does Cincinnati, Ohio do against Pennsylvania last night?

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Ohver two?

Speaker 11 (49:59):
How about FC uh oh for one against what is
that Chavos Guadalajada.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
What is that?

Speaker 11 (50:06):
That's a team in the Mexican league kicked with his
league's cup thing.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
So Cincinnati did not do well at fourth and al
nor in professional sports.

Speaker 11 (50:15):
Fourth and they went oh for three last night? And
professional sports?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
What about today? Do the Bengals play today?

Speaker 12 (50:20):
No?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Does FC play today?

Speaker 5 (50:22):
No?

Speaker 1 (50:23):
They play Sunday. How about the Reds winning then against
the Pennsylvania team?

Speaker 11 (50:26):
It could it better? They better win today tomorrow and Sunday.
Pirates stink because the Phillies come in and then right
I have them is a team they can't beat either
of the Milwaukee Brewers beat them.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Now, say you know what the record is of the
Reds in Pittsburgh the last forty four games.

Speaker 11 (50:44):
They are nineteen and forty two at PNC Park since
twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
What's that possible? And Pittsburgh stinks, thank you.

Speaker 11 (50:53):
I mean, it's not like they got superstars in their
forty two nineteen and forty two at PNC Park.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I don't think they're very good here either, if you
were to ask that age old question, how we looking
not good? Thank you, Martin.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
They have a problem with the Brewers, right, correct, Reds
have a problem with Pittsburgh, right Saint Louis Cardinals yep,
and the Cubs yes, So tell me again what shape
the Red Legs are in, because right now.

Speaker 11 (51:21):
Right now, the offense, the offense has gone south all
of a sudden. They scored one run over the last
twenty innings. And wait a minute, Paul Skeins better get
rid of him. He allowed a career high seven hits
last night.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
No runs, of course, no, Well, Lisia, next week you
have Philadelphia here in Milwaukee here, then they're going to
nine game.

Speaker 11 (51:46):
They go to the West Coast Angels ARIZONI and then
the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
How are we looking? So this could this next two
or three weeks could tell the tail.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Tell me how the Bengals first team defense did against
the second and third string Eagles offense.

Speaker 11 (52:02):
Uh looked, he looked like a bunch of matadors out there,
very porous. Every time they ran the ball. Well, wasn't right.
Neither was Hurts. And then I ran a car business.
Well and uh, you know, Hendrickson is probably standing or going.
You know what, they might need me. Maybe the price

(52:23):
is gonna go up now, mister Brown.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Well, he's a pass rusher, not a defender against the run.
You gotta do some thought.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
The Bengals had new players in the middle, the man
in the middle Michael Jackson style.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
What about him?

Speaker 11 (52:33):
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Speaker 8 (52:51):
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Speaker 1 (52:51):
Would you go downtown tonight? Are you crazy? Go ahead?

Speaker 7 (52:56):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (52:57):
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Speaker 1 (53:20):
Is Mitch Keller any good?

Speaker 11 (53:24):
The Chase Burns better well? Chase Burns probably hopefully has
a better outing than he did at the Bristol Motor Speedway.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Ho was Saturday? What do you pitched? One inning? Struck
out three?

Speaker 5 (53:33):
Right?

Speaker 12 (53:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
And Hunter Green?

Speaker 11 (53:35):
Hunter Green makes another rehab start tonight for Triple A Louisville, Willie,
How's this growing well?

Speaker 12 (53:40):
So far?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
It's happy. Leis Groin is a happy growing Bengals.

Speaker 11 (53:44):
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Speaker 1 (54:07):
Excuse me.

Speaker 11 (54:07):
The Bengals fall in the preseason opener to the Eagles
thirty four to twenty seven. Joe Burrow's okay, who for
one hundred and twenty three yards and two scores. But
a lot to work on is the next game is
a week from this Monday at Washington.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
I have an idea that possibly maybe j B also
known as Joe Burrow, should not score so quickly. If
they go slower, it gives less time to the They
want to go right for the jug Yeah, but if
you do that, you get the ball to the other team.
They come and score quickly too.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Maybe somebody will tell them to slow it down, slow
it down, score Brown slowly.

Speaker 11 (54:43):
Former Bengals linebacker and bad boy Vontez Perfect is back
in football?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
What Perfect does?

Speaker 11 (54:51):
A defensivest analyst for the UNLV Rebels football team under
coordinator and former coach Paul.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I did not think that would go.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Well?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Perfect is back. How about Desmond Ridder? What about him?
He threw the ball pretty darn good. Did he win
the second spot?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Do you think?

Speaker 11 (55:09):
I hope so he was throwing that ball around and
throwing more touchdowns in another Cincinnati uniform.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Well, I like Desmond Ridder, don't you? Yes?

Speaker 11 (55:19):
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first round match after probably nine o'clock nine thirty, as

(55:41):
McNally is back in her home tournament for the first
time in three years due to injuries. Good Cincinnati Open
officials did announce this morning the opening weekend today through
Sunday sold out.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Say that again, seg Man.

Speaker 11 (55:56):
The opening weekend today through Sunday. It's a sin that
Open is completely sold out.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Don't go packed and stacked.

Speaker 11 (56:05):
Soccer Guaraja alsting FC Cincinnati from the League's Cup last
night two to one pat noon and played mainly his reserves.
He's got to save these guys up FCC back in
MLS play finally, gotta save them with a Sunday at
home against Charlotte FC, and the Orange and Blue has

(56:25):
nine matches left before the season before the playoffs begin
in their run to the m LS Cup.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
How about this Grammy nominated singer Jewel. You know Jewel.
Sean McMahon loves Jewel. Yeah, I heard their songs.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, has a lawsuit pending against Kroger and the Wellness Festival.
He Many County judge has ordered Kroger CEO Rodney McMullin
disclosed the reasons for his sudden resignation from the super
Bowl Market super giant. Rodney McMullan, the Cincinnati who I
like Rodney quite a bit, but the lawsuit was brought
by Jewel to cut her out a profitable annual event.

(57:05):
When it turned to she said that somehow Rodney McMullan
was involved in this.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Somehow the ex.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
CEO and Judge Christian Jenkins said it's possible that this
evidence could reflect on mister mcmullin's credibility or Kroger's corporate culture.
I love Barney Kroger and I stand with Kroger me too.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
What's what's well? Last year?

Speaker 11 (57:27):
Did they have terrible storms down there and the whole
thing they're wellness of blew away? Yeah, got high winds
and rain and everything things got blown around it. I
don't know, you know what that is. That's a money
grab somehow, money Jewel money.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
What are some of jewels?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Big songs have no idea Sean McMahon would care less
go ahead, Maybe we'll He'll find one and they'll play it.
What about the country festival right now? Could there be
a rap festival with me in the future? I have
many more lyrics come into me segment.

Speaker 11 (57:59):
Well that's true, Willy, I mean, well, you could probably
go out there and do country rap. You know, I
heard a song this morning, your kid Rock has done
kind of country rap really yeah, country rap. His song
Cowboy is kind of country rap really Cowboy.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I don't know. I mean, I'm just.

Speaker 11 (58:17):
Saying, I mean you could go you know, you could
go from like rap to like country, like Darius Rucker.
Darius Rucker went from the from rock. What about the
blow country in the way they went, I think they
I think they got gotten went to I think they're
at Red Lobster.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Big stuff going on in the country.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
So you're saying I will conquer rap, then country, then
bring it together.

Speaker 11 (58:40):
Yeah, Well, I mean, you know, you could be a
you could be a trail blazer and end up in
the Rap Hall of Fame, the Country Hall of Fame,
Newcomer of the Year and one day Cleveland, Ohio and
the rock and roll It would not be something Hall
of Fame. We were there segment many years? Would that

(59:03):
be with Bill Wills? That's right, Tam Big, would that be?
Then you could go back and give your speech in Cleveland?
Then I could be admitted possibly in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, you could be admitted, all right, and.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
The Country Hall of Fame go down there, maybe rap
a little bit in Nashville?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Is there a rap Hall of Fame?

Speaker 12 (59:21):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I don't know. I don't either.

Speaker 11 (59:23):
I got my doubts, but I don't know. It might
be one pretty soon, I don't know. Oh, I mean
all these other all these other singers are going to
different genres.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
I could branch out. I don't even know how to
spell that word genre G E, N R E. You
should know what it is.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Okay, Now, eighteen ninety nine, ding is when the tennis
tournament began here in Cincinnati.

Speaker 11 (59:43):
Coney Allen, we were, we were, I think we were
doing the stooges back then.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Who was president in eighteen ninety nine from Ohio?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Uh Grant?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
No, I was eighteen sixty eight to eighteen seventy six.
Harris named McKinley bingo right there, okay, and Trump likes McKinley.
He was shot in Buffalo and then t R took over.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Do you think Trump went to McKinley mortgage to get
some He has dealt with Paul Luck quite often. Okay,
it's checking. And I saw gut Field last night on
The Tonight Show. Yeah, how'd that go? Well, it's pretty funny.
Steven Colebert still on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I hope not supposedly in May or June to see
what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
It's pretty bad.

Speaker 11 (01:00:32):
I'd rather watch, you know what, I'd rather watch that
David Letterman reruns on CBS.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Isn't high school football starting next week? Next week in Indiana?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
I think they start in Indiana tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
We got to get the coach on the Tigers of
Beechwood and then one of us got tacking, and then
next week.

Speaker 11 (01:00:49):
Next weekend is when Cincinnati or the Ohio and Kentucky roll.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
It's here, Willie.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Let's get Matt Ponatowski from Muller. Get him back on
the number one in the state of Ohio. According to
Max Preps of holding in their quarterback, last year's team
was better than this year's team.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
They got unfited, they got unfinished business down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
They haven't played yet, right, you know how good they're
gonna be. Where's Moller going to have a bad year?
Come on, doesn't have often? I guarantee you all right.

Speaker 11 (01:01:23):
Then you're gonna have a female umpire tomorrow the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
They need automatic balls and strikes the ability. Did you
do it?

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
What game is she going to do? The Marlins and
Braves they should have the automatic strike zone.

Speaker 11 (01:01:37):
What you know what she's working the she's working the
plate for her first games.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
You can't do worse than the other guys. But Segui
in his sense that we white males are in trouble.

Speaker 11 (01:01:46):
Do you think that the managers of the Marlins and
the Braves will go out there and like cuss her out?

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yes? I would segment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
What gender is the city manager female? What gender is
the chief of police female? What gender is the prosecutor female?
What gender are the three county commissioners female female?

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Female? What gender is the county auditor female? What gender
is the chief Justice of the High Supreme Court female?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
What gender is every presiding judge in every court in
Hambleton County, From the first District Court of Appairs in
Maryland's Eyas to the Common Police Court Division Louvers to
the d R division, which is sunderman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Uh uh, there's four divisions? How many, how mean?

Speaker 11 (01:02:33):
And and how many judges in those four divisions? It's
about thirty two and they're all there, all female. Thirty Yeah,
don't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Do you think we white males need something like an
affirmative action program? Reverse? Well, reverse it. There's no men.
It's rain and men. Hallelujah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
It's not reign and men not around here. We're dun
and done. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Now you've got female umpires. They're gonna have all the jobs.
If things are screwed up. Guess what women?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
No question?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
They control law enforcement indictments. How about the corner's office?
What gender is ast me? Some Marco female? Now everywhere
I look, I see nothing but females. Where does it
get us disaster problems? All I'm saying is we white
males had a good run. But guess what is over?
It's done. My wife says, look, you screwed it up

(01:03:33):
for about two thousand years. Give us a shot as well.
So all right, well you got the shot. Let's see
what you do. See what happens? Segment we have coming
up next to this is a rich McHugh from News Nation.
I'm going to get a national perspective about what's happening
yes on the main streets of Cincinnati compared to other
American cities. Segment, get me out of the studio, Willie.

Speaker 11 (01:03:54):
On this beautiful Friday, we say it's a National Pickleball Day.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
Really go out and play.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
How about playing at Mason in about ten days, they
got the greatest pickleball courts in the Midwest.

Speaker 11 (01:04:08):
Right there at the tennis tournament. Let's go or played pickleball.
Maybe that's where our big match could take place.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Who's it going to be.

Speaker 11 (01:04:15):
It's gonna be possibly looks like you and Rocky against
you and Sheriff Jones bingo pickleball. Your people are talking
to my people. See when we can get out of
about where the venue might be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Might be another beat down the two of us like
at Fourth and Elm and a little bit of a
beatdown though, could be in Middletown again after all segment
You beg for it, didn't you. Didn't you beg for.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Just saying, well, nothing's been not set in stone? Didn't
you beg for it? Victoriot Parks because you dumped Rocky?

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Well when I need somebody a little younger and better
the same Wow segment, give me out a Stoos report.

Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
Will you?

Speaker 11 (01:04:54):
And out of a beautiful day here in the Tri
State on this National pickleball Day, we leave you with
the immortal words of the Stood Report.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
That is all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
Sounds like John Wayne Wayne, Oh true grit and we
heard from the from the main man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Yet he's dead.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Yeah, let's continue with more after two o'clock today. Is
Rich McHugh of News Nation been here for the last
two weeks gathering information about the racial beatdown at Fourth
and Elm. He's going to discorg his information what he knows.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
And you had that lady on right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I did, Holly. It's make it a go to the
podcast page segment.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
You can listen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
What a story not good and the police showed up
and did nothing well on News Radio seven hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
What you all do?

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Let's continue now, Bill Cunningham, the great American and of
course national attention is focused here in River City because
of what's happening with the Holly and all the fallout,
all the issues, and the NAACP issued a press release
this morning, and the NAACP wanted to know when the
white criminal defendants are going to be charged. That's another issue.
And of course Holly was on with a Rich mchew

(01:06:16):
of News Nation yesterday talking about every aspect of the case.
He's the great national correspondent for NewsNation and Rich mckew.
I understand you're in town, is that correct? You're in
Cincinnati as I speak.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
That's right, Bill.

Speaker 9 (01:06:27):
I've been here for basically since this beating happened. I
left briefly to cover something else and then it came back,
and so yeah, I've been here in town and trying
to speak to as many people as possible, police, former police,
trying to get a hold of the city leadership, crickets
from them. I haven't haven't gotten any response my interview

(01:06:49):
requests for the mayor, of the chief of Police, city
council members.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
I'm just shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yeah, because normally when you have events like this transpire,
the face of the city ought to be the mayor,
have to have peer of all. Of course, he was
on vacation, and one can argue, well, you know, you
don't know when events are going to take place. When
you sign up for this kind of duty's gonna have
to be on duty. But he scheduled a vacation during
the middle of the music festival, the Reds in town,
also the Big Three Basketball tournament and FC Cincinnati all

(01:07:16):
going on. The Mary decides to leave, and then you
have the city manager you can't find her with a
search warrant. You have an overwhelmed police chief who's been there,
she's a veteran's been there about thirty two thirty three years,
Teresa Thiji, and she doesn't give much interviews. And then
you talk to council members. I saw some of your
staff walking up to a council member to talk about

(01:07:37):
Victoria Parks, saying, you know that this is something that
they beg for. They wanted this to happen to him,
and nobody's talking there. So when you talk about covering
from a national perspective, how does Cincinnati look?

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Not very good?

Speaker 9 (01:07:51):
I mean, you gotta hit the nail on the head.
It's the just then, and then the mayor puts out
a video on Instagram or wherever he posted a social
media where he's walking in the OTR with with the
police lieutenant, I guess, saying we're fighting crime here, we're

(01:08:11):
fighting crime, and there's nobody at the shot that's beautifully
shot and beautifully lit. And then in the past twenty
four hours you have I believe, two murders there in
that in that very neighborhood where he was doing this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
So it's it's a crisis.

Speaker 9 (01:08:26):
Communication strategy that I think, you know, from from my perspective,
parachuting in here is going to fail them pretty quickly.
And I think everybody everybody across the nation is seeing
this for what it is, and they, you know, initially
they blamed us.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:46):
I was listening to a press conference and then they
turned their iron and said like and this is this
is on you, the media, pointing a finger at us,
like how you portrayed this? And I thought to myself,
I don't know, but I saw very plainly, you know,
a woman essentially get beaten to within, you know, an

(01:09:07):
inch of her life.

Speaker 5 (01:09:09):
I you know, I was watching.

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
That video and I saw it and I thought, oh
my god, I can't even continue watching this because I
don't think this woman survives.

Speaker 5 (01:09:17):
Fortunately she did.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
She did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Rich mcub of News Nation, you interviewed her yesterday or
the day before. Can you tell us the essence of
your interview with Holly.

Speaker 9 (01:09:27):
Yeah, absolutely, she in a word. You know, she is
struggling still physically mentally she is her body is just
like she's just she's bruised and she doesn't know if
she has like a disc knocked out of place. Her
ankles are twisted because when she was hit like she

(01:09:50):
she had heels on.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
She is like she is.

Speaker 9 (01:09:56):
Coming back from the dead, is the best way I
can put it. And she is clearly has PTSD and
is emotional, but at the same time, miraculously is very positive.

Speaker 5 (01:10:10):
About you know, the road ahead.

Speaker 9 (01:10:13):
She doesn't you know, she she almost forgives the person
who did.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
This to her.

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
At the same time she wants justice to happen, and
she wants to see you know, accountability and transparency and
none of which is really happening.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:10:33):
She talked about the when it happened, and I said,
you know, when you when you watch that video of
yourself getting hit, and she didn't, she didn't see the
hit coming. She's there was a woman who hit her
and then out of like she was blindsided, out of
the side and that's what knocked her out. And I said,
when when you were watching that video of yourself, what

(01:10:56):
went through your mind, and she said she got really emotional.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
She said she was almost as if.

Speaker 9 (01:11:02):
It was watching a movie, and she she wasn't sure
that her soul, you know, had left her body, and
she started crying during the interview uncontrollably to the fact
that like she wasn't sure, you know something. She says,
she has these bouts of this where she's she's not

(01:11:22):
even sure she has panic attects, and she's not even
sure if she is still alive.

Speaker 12 (01:11:27):
She's like, did I survive this? So she's just going
through this incredibly horrific ordeal, but she's, you know, she's
trying to get her footing and move forward.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Well, one aspect of this case is the fact that
Cincinnati police were the two officers that showed up. And
this isn't a condemnation of all nine hundred and fifty
police officers, but the two that showed up. Explain what
she said to you, and I've also spoken with her.
What did she say to you about the behavior of

(01:12:04):
those two cops that showed up in the scene, which
was horrific by any fair measurement.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
What did she say?

Speaker 9 (01:12:11):
She said, Initially, Number one, she was happy that the
police were there, But then the way that they were
essentially treating her, she said, in her words, she felt
like they were treating her like she was some hoodlum,
not as a victim. They didn't even take a statement
from her. They didn't ask if she needs an ambulance,

(01:12:34):
and she was, you know, visibly obviously bloody. She took
an uber home herself. But she said, you know, there
was one nine to one one call. One person called
nine one one, And she's like, you know who that was.
That was one of the victims who managed to get
away and hid between cars and called.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Nine one one.

Speaker 9 (01:12:52):
None of the bystanders called nine one one. She's like,
that's equally disturbing. But the fact that the police had
this response to her, didn't take a statement, didn't take
it seriously, she said, it just meet her angry. And
the fact that she hasn't heard from the chief of police,
she hasn't heard from the mayor, and here we are,
teks two weeks later.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
It's a disgrace.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
And Rich McHugh, you have more of a national perspective
than this. I could not imagine any city handling this
thing worse than my beloved city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 9 (01:13:26):
Would you agree I would agree, you couldn't possibly draw
us up.

Speaker 12 (01:13:32):
Worse.

Speaker 9 (01:13:32):
You know, how should a city manage a crisis like this?

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
This is the textbook of how you should not do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
And one of the worst comments is of our President
of pro ten of the Council, Victoria Parks. And she's
been involved democratic politics for thirty years. She's an Air
Force veteran, believe it or not, about thirty five years ago,
and she said, quote, they begged for the beatdown unquote,
and then two or three days later she doubled down

(01:13:59):
and said, that's exactly how I feel that in a sense,
Holly begged to be beaten like that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
What does that say about city leadership.

Speaker 9 (01:14:08):
Well, it says that there is a complete disconnect with
how they feel and how they they they operate this
city and how the rest of America feels because.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
And you know, it's it's I spoke.

Speaker 9 (01:14:23):
I also spoke with Sarah Herringer if you remember that name.
Her husband was murdered in June in their in their
apartment here in Cincinnati, and she said something that really
struck me that if a criminal doesn't have any concern
to break into my apartment and murder somebody, in no

(01:14:43):
regard for the law. You know, that's that's the real
issue here, Like they're not enforcing. You know, the police
may be arresting these people, but this guy was out
on I believe, on bail who murdered her husband. And
you know, there's a bigger issue here, and it's something
both women have said, like these people need to be

(01:15:08):
put in prison and locked up and not at least
on bail. And I think that's where this conversation ultimately
is heading.

Speaker 5 (01:15:16):
The Hamilton County.

Speaker 9 (01:15:18):
Police chiefs just issued us a statement this morning effectively
saying the same thing, like we can.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Police, but the issue is also above us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
You know, the police are demoralized because they arrest and
we have a very liberal court system today to simply
release before the paperwork has done. Mordecai Black cut off
his ankle bracelet in January and for the next four
months he had a total of six contacts with police.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
And a no point did they arrest him. They simply
didn't bother.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
And he's the guy marching around OTR with a butcher
knife in his hand, broke into the home of Patrick
Halinger and butchered him in front of his wife and
I'm powerless as a Cincinnati and to defend any of that.
I love police and what they do, but Damn, when
I talk to beat cops, about a third or half
of them don't want to enforce the law anymore because

(01:16:10):
they're told not to. If there's a truancy, or if
there's open smoking in marijuana, or homeless encampments or drug
use or public prostitution, Uh, don't enforce those laws. And
so they become placid and flaccid in their responsibilities and
they don't want to enforce the law. That is a
systemic problem.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Correct, That's exactly right.

Speaker 9 (01:16:33):
And I think we're starting to hear that not just
in Cincinnati, but other cities right across the country.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
That's true in Chicago, New York.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:16:43):
And I think that's where this, this kind of national
moment probably is heading, you know, a real conversation about.

Speaker 5 (01:16:52):
How to approach this.

Speaker 9 (01:16:54):
In these you know, these urban areas across the United States,
because the crash strategy is not working clearly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Well, I look at LA, look at Chicago, look at
New York. New York's about to elect a mom Donnie
who simply says, defund the police, don't send police to
the victims of crime, send social workers. In Chicago after
Brandon Johnson, he ran to the left of Lori, Lightfoot
and one. And then in Los Angeles you have Karen
Bass who's made thirty five trips to Castro, Cuba to

(01:17:23):
talk about the glories of the revolution in Havana. And
then Mam Donnie wants to have government operatedt grocery stores.
This is a Cincinnati problem. This is an entire national problem,
and you can't have a great nation, whether twenty or
thirty top American cities are in collapse. Who in the
right mind was send their kid to a public school
in Cincinnati when the results are so bad it's like

(01:17:45):
daycare center, and the officials are going to be happy
here Rich McHugh of News Nation, when in about a
week school's going to start and they're hoping many of
the kids are off the street. But any particular day
there's a twenty five percent permanent truancy problem. To be
a crime for the parents not to send their kids
to school. But we have truancy. We have violations of curfews,

(01:18:08):
open air drug use, homeless encampments around the public library.
If you go to Saint Francis Seraph On Liberty Street,
you'll see fifteen one hundred people using drugs, publicly engaging
in ox of prostitution. The business owners said, we can't
take it anymore. You have kids on the banks taking
shots at passing barges. You have parts of our city
that have their own police departments. Procter and Gamble Kroger,

(01:18:30):
for example, have their own police departments. You have the
restaurant owners, twenty five of the big ones. All of
them said, we can't take this anymore. Our employees can't
work to walk the surface locked lots at the end
of a shift. We need help. All of them are
hiring off duty cops in uniform to come and protect
the city, and we envision ourselves rich McHugh is a
great American city with the Reds and the Bengals and

(01:18:52):
FC and all the institutions that prop us up. But
my god, this is a problem and the city fathers
and mothers are completely over well. They're playing politics and
not solving the problem. Now there's a question in there somewhere.
Can you answer it?

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
Well?

Speaker 9 (01:19:08):
I agree with pretty much everything you said. It seems
to me there's one thing I know that they can
do the city. I know that there are at least
several hundred police officers short. So yeah, regardless of like
when the judges that you know happens in the judicial system.
Talking to former and current you know, police officers, they
agree they're about two hundred to two hundred.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
And fifty police officers short.

Speaker 9 (01:19:32):
Whatever the mayor have to do to allocate funds, do that,
get more officers in here and have a presence around
the city, because what we learned was that night there
there weren't police in the area. And it shouldn't be
the onus on the people to call nine will one
to report this beatdown. It should be there's police around,

(01:19:54):
especially on a Friday night at three in the morning
after whatever, the jazz fest and games and when they're
expecting these large crowds.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
You got to have more police presence.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
And as she told you and me that when the
police did show up, they didn't seem to care, didn't
didn't take a report, didn't get her name a number,
simply said you're on your own. That's maybe that's even worse. Well,
Rich mckue, please go.

Speaker 5 (01:20:17):
The next day.

Speaker 9 (01:20:18):
I believe she had to call back the day the
next day to ask to give a statement, which is
just astounding.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Wow. All right, I wish it was different. Are you
in town much longer?

Speaker 5 (01:20:32):
I will probably be back.

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
I think I'm leaving this evening and I'll be back
probably next week.

Speaker 5 (01:20:39):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
I want to talk with you all there if I
could for a moment. But Rich McHugh of News Nation,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And sadly
we may have to do it again we have problems
in River City. I' let's continue with more Bill Cunningham,
News Radio, seven hundred of.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
The foot bars.

Speaker 10 (01:20:55):
It's a touchdown, his second of the game has DEAs been.
Ridder timed a nice touch throw right on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
In the end zone and Hudson got his feet down
for the score.

Speaker 8 (01:21:07):
Oh hello, quiet, and I'm skokes, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
So you have a quarterback competition now between Joe Burrow
and Desmond Ridder.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Is there a competition? Yeah? There is.

Speaker 11 (01:21:25):
Joe Burrow's making two hundred and seventy five million dollars
in his contract and Desmond Ridders just wanting to stay here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
He's got a cheeseburger. Yeah. I think JB is better
than Desmond. Am I right or wrong?

Speaker 11 (01:21:37):
I would say so yeah, but nothing against Desmond Ridder.
But I would say that Joe Burrows, yes, the super
thank you laugh his lap called in, well, I mean
my lap. He's been fifty years with a team. He
knows what he's talking about now, he knows where the
bodies are buried.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
A ring of honor, ring of honor along with Leap
and Lamar Parrish.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
He deserves it. And also I think Bob Trumpy, what
about the Trumpster?

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
I think so two.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Let's get him in, Get him and him in along
with Dave Parker before it's too late. Get him all in.

Speaker 11 (01:22:05):
Will he the stood reporters of Proud Service, every local
tame Star heating and air conditioning dealers, Tamestar Quala. You
could feel in Cincinnati, Calway ooming air at one eight
eight eight nine six h v.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
A c Take this a new version of Carlos Alcatraz?
Is it Alcatraz or Alcoraz? Alcoraz? I'll call him Alcatraz.
There's a new version of him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
What do he do? Cut his hairs on it? But
there's a new version.

Speaker 11 (01:22:35):
Reds and Pirates tonight in game two of their series,
along the confluence of the Ohio River. Will he Chase
Burns and Mitch Keller into Steel City? Five forty Sports
Talk RNL Carriers, Inside Pitch, Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning Show
After the game, Now, Hunter Green, we'll make another rehab
start for Triple A Louisville tonight. We need him in

(01:22:57):
the Derby City, so we see what happens. If he's
going to go at least maybe eighty pitches, stretch him
out a little bit and see what happens. He might
be back here early next week as they'll need him. Yeah,
Willdolo out and the Philadelphia Phillies and telling the town.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Well, say, I have a good friend of mine, Kenny
Smith from Louisville. He's gonna go scout him and possibly
be the subject of a trade trade. Who can't say,
can't say he can't trade anybody? The deadline's over. Yeah,
everybody waivers, you can, Yeah, but everybody's gonna wave.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Who are you gonna trade? You can't have waivers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
I'll tell you what I would do. I'd get Paul Skeens.
Wouldn't you look good in a reds outfit?

Speaker 11 (01:23:42):
Jeez, wonder what you have to give up for him?
An entire franchise, McLean Elie, Dela Cruz, who Francona, Yeah,
give them all. Yeah, I'm thinking outside the box. Would
you agree?

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
You're you're certainly outside the box. I like being inside
the box.

Speaker 11 (01:23:57):
Let's see Bengals up. They brought you by Good Spirits
and Party Town. Bengals got a couple of days off
before they start to prep for a preseason game two
week from Monday night at Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Is JB gonna player? Desmond Ritter?

Speaker 11 (01:24:11):
Well, I think JB will play more against Washington as
apparently the plan.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
Last time he went there. What happened? He got chicken winged?

Speaker 11 (01:24:20):
This Sunday, August ten, three to four, it's a doble
Tequila bottles signing with tennis stars Sam Quarry, also John
Isner and Steve Johnson only had Good Spirits located in
Crescent Springs on Buttermilk Pike four on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Let's get some get some credit for this. Let's get
some of that tequila in your segment, Ted drink tequila.
Can you see you and me drinking tequila? Wouldn't that
be something.

Speaker 11 (01:24:46):
I guarantee you your rap career would would With sky
Skyrocket in.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Fact, I have a couple more lines here about rap.
Why did I bring it up?

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
I'm just saying I have a future in rap? What
is your future? Segment?

Speaker 11 (01:24:58):
Tennis Cincinnati Open Update brought to you by All the Sports,
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Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
All at Oakley Greens.

Speaker 11 (01:25:05):
Peyton Stearns out of Cincinnati won her first round match
Venus Williams, a loser in the first round last night.
Cincinnati's Katie McNally in the grandstand court tonight her first
round match. Around nine o'clock or so.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
How about this? The crew rolled up. They were quick
and precise, turned my boring lawn into a paradise. My
friends came over, they were all in a trance. Said,
is this a hotel? Did you win the lottery?

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Chance?

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Nah, it's just ACR. They got the skills and the flow.
They'll build you a pool, they'll put on a show.
My wife sipping drinks, feeling all fancy and grand. Well,
I'm practicing in my cannon ball, the best in the land.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
That's not bad. You even got your sponsors in that one.
That's not bad. Just saying that's something. Who wrote that?
Frank Zybell?

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
No, Well, I don't want to give any credit but
I did get a little bit of help, but mainly
it's my own stuff, you know what I'm saying. Maybe
Paul McCartney came over and helped along with Bernie Talpin.
Would you be my Bernie Taupin if I'm Elton John.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Any day of the week.

Speaker 11 (01:26:08):
Let's see the opening worked sunned Cincinnati opened Willie today
through Sunday, is completely sold out and Mason got nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Uh Soccer.

Speaker 11 (01:26:19):
FC Cincinnati gets back to MLS play on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
You know I have Mark Levin on Monday, a great one.
Do you think he likes rap? Should I wrap with
Mark Levin or Ice Cube?

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:26:30):
I think you better stick with me with Ice Davidham
said yes, Yes, with Mark Levin, he.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
And I rapping together? Now would that be? Sopham said yes?
How about this?

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
All hail, all hail to a great American track, All hail,
all hail to a great man. Who is it the
great American? All hail, all hail to one great man,
who is it the Great American?

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Now that's your chorus. That's it. You got to ride
around that my best there sake.

Speaker 11 (01:27:01):
FC Cincinnati back at MLS play on Sunday and home
against Charlotte FC.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Willie they are. They are celebrating ten.

Speaker 11 (01:27:10):
Years really in existence, really with Jeff Birding in FC
Cincinnati and mister Linder ten years, ten years they've been
in business. How about that humb believe USL to the
MLS and look what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Four on the course. Got that four oh one k swing,
slow mode like its Groundhog Day. Mutual funds and a
rough buffet, eedy pills in the cart. I can still
play just the clubs now, I paddle the net, pick
a ball king.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
I ain't done yet.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Doubles with Seggi and his medicare said, crushing those dick shots.
Never break a sweat, knee braces, squeaking on the hardwood floor,
ASU once than ice, for sure. George twos tight wristbands
galore got more compression than a hardware store.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
I check on the fifteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Thank you Fica making that claim like a Vegas striker
started at sixty two. Now I'm a high flyer living
off checks like it's a part time friar callon increase.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
I'm feeling the bump. Government cheese got me over the hump.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
They said it would run out, but I got my
slice social security. Feeling quite nice. Hump diddydoo. That's not
bad right there, the voice of my generation. I have
two rules. No profanity. Secondly, nothing bad about women. My
wife is a woman, my mother was a woman. My
sister is a woman. My granddaughter is a girl. As

(01:28:29):
a consequence, I love women as many as I can.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
You're going to be the clean rapper.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Yeah, I'm a clean wrapper without foul language. But did
you think it'll work? One last thing? Answer that I'm
checking the vesting. I'm fully mature. If my golf clubs
are clean. Yeah, my dividends are pure swing like I'm young,
but my back's onsure catch me on the green looking
sixty four. Their radio career is done. I cashed in

(01:28:55):
my plan. Now I spend mornings in a four hour
sand Sif that METIMU invest in the land index funds
popping like a brass band.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
I know you didn't.

Speaker 11 (01:29:07):
I bet you, Thank you did the first lady write
that for you?

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Can?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
I just got a text her from ken Brew. You
sound like Edgar Allen Poe on crack cocaine.

Speaker 9 (01:29:19):
Geez.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
I got a text her from where you got to
put a beat behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Ice Cube says, keep writing your sound better every show
there you go, Thank you Cube, and tell Rocky to
quit the ad libs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Yours are much better. That's from ice Cube.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Yes, WHOA wouldn't that be something? Yes, sir, right see,
I think Rocky is too white. You know what I'm saying.
In someone like me connected to the hood, I need
to go down this week on OTR. Get the crap
kicked out of me. Then I'll have some cred. You
know what I'm saying. Would you come with me? Get
shot you nuts? I'm just saying, we'll just keep writing.

(01:30:00):
I am just keep wrapping over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
It's flowing. It's flowing out of me. It is. It
sounds great. You gotta put some music behind it.

Speaker 12 (01:30:08):
Now.

Speaker 11 (01:30:09):
You got to go in and get recordings or something.
Is that is Bootsy collars or the dog coming in?
The Dog is here Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
I want to hook up with him and him and
him and Cuba are gonna bid for my excellence. I mean,
I'm just saying I don't know who to take. The
Dog is here Monday, Yes, in concert, and Mark Levin
is here? About Mark Levin and the Snoop Dog. Do
they get along?

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
I get I guess they would. I don't know. You
see what I got the dogs in town. He might
be here in your wraps.

Speaker 11 (01:30:40):
Might be it forbids like the voice.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
That's how to sound like this. That's nice right there.
I got to help the man. Gotta get the man,
get the check. Willie to the Sea from the KCC,
out of the park, in the deer Park, out of
the dark. That's kind of like underneath it's called the
voice of the older generation. That's me say give me
out of the students report. We have an expert coming

(01:31:11):
up on Alzheimer's, etc. He's gonna have a big Corvette
show at the in Newport to Huff for our house
on Saturday. I got to talk to him about that
and so much more of a segment. Please would you
write me more wrap lines because the ones you've sent
me have been lost. I think Eddie Fingers took them
and trademarked him, so I can't use them and you'll

(01:31:33):
get the road he's when I go big.

Speaker 11 (01:31:36):
Speaking of Eddie Fingers, will he we want to say
happy birthday to his better half today the illustrious deb has.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
You know she worked at Hooters for a long time.

Speaker 11 (01:31:46):
And on this National Pickleball Day, Willie, we wish everybody
you have a good weekend and stay safe out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
There, go down, matter where you go. Go downtown. It'd
be like a pinball and a pinball machine.

Speaker 11 (01:31:57):
We leave you with the immortal words huge report, Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Can I catch you real quickly?

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I'm already naked.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
David, I like it. I like it well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
I may go to o Tir get my ass kicked
and I'll have cred. Would you like that? I'll call
you late, come pick me up. I'll start rapping like
fifty cents. Thank you, sir, Yes, sir. On seven hundred WL.

Speaker 7 (01:32:28):
You.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
It's me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
By Billy Cunningham, the great American. Jack Buker is president
of the Fort Thomas Corvette Club. They're having a big
car show fundraiser for Alzheimer's this Saturday at the Hall
for Our House in Newport. Flyer is attached to the
email and Jack Buker welcome, I think for the first
time to the Bill Cunningham show.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
I knew many.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Bukers and the Deer Park Muller High School area. One
of them owes to me about two hundred dollars. Is
this the same family or not?

Speaker 7 (01:32:57):
Oh no, I don't know any of those people's got
to do with me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Oh good, All right, let's talk about Let's talk about
the event on Saturday. Tell the American people what's going
on to the twenty fourth annual Car Show.

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
Yeah, so we you know, we did this every year.
This year we're sponsoring Alzheimer's at half our House in Newport.
There'll be about one hundred and fifty cars there, somewhere
around that number. If you've got a car that you
want to display, you register your car around between eight
thirty and twelve. Cost twenty dollars to register your car.
We basically judge the cars and then pass out trophies

(01:33:32):
around three o'clock. And in addition to having the cars
there to look at, we also raffle bourbon. There's thirty
five expensive bottles of bourbon we're raffling off. We have
a of course, split the pot and all that. We
go about ninety door prizes that we hand out the
people that have their cars there. And if someone's not
interested in showing your car, but they just want to

(01:33:54):
come see cars, that's great too because you can hang
out at the half house, eats some very good German food,
have some of the beer they have there.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
They just have a good old.

Speaker 7 (01:34:03):
Afternoon in the sunshine and bring some beer, see some
cars and interact with the people there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Well, Jack, do you have to have a Corvette? Because
a good friend of mine has a has a brand
new Bentley.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
He's proud.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
And of course another friend of mine, harry Yagey, has
the original Batman car from the nineteen sixties. What kind
of cars can come?

Speaker 7 (01:34:22):
No, No, any kind of car. In fact, we make
sure it's not a corvette show. So we'll have cars.
You'll have Model a's there all the way up to
the brand new cars. So it's we divide the trophies
into strictly corvettes, because about half the cars that are
there will be corvettes. The other half of the cars.
You'll see fifty six Chevyes, you'll see fifty Thunderbirds, You'll

(01:34:46):
see you know, mopar cars, you'll see trucks. You know,
every once in a while, I'm going to bring a motorcycle.
But all kinds of different vehicles. Some are pristine, some
are you know, extremely some well maintained cars. Others are
just old cars. People drive. You know, they just want
to contribute to their Alzheimer's and make a contribution that way.

(01:35:10):
So we get all kinds of cars there. But it's
you know, we got a DJ playing and be playing
the sixties music if you got a memory that goes
back that far, and we just you know, again, it's
just a good afternoon, some sunshine, look at some cars,
eat some food, drink some.

Speaker 5 (01:35:27):
Beer and just take a good time.

Speaker 7 (01:35:28):
You know, That's kind of what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
It's Saturday at the hof Brow House in Newport and
the Fort Thomas Corvette Show to benefit of Alzheimer's research
on I anticipated in the next five years is going
to be tremendous breakthroughs when it comes to those kinds
of difficulties. And this is starting and it's a great time,
a good event. And I'm going to tell my buddy
Sean Donovan, chief Deputy's got a beautiful Bentley and other

(01:35:51):
people bring it on by and takes fifty bucks and
raise a two thousand bucks and away you go. There's prizes.
DJ Raffles starts eight I say eight thirty am to noon.
You register and then how long on Saturday does it go?

Speaker 7 (01:36:06):
So we'll be out of there by three or four.
We start judging around ten thirty. Once we get the
judging done, and then we'll go ahead and award the
trophies and all. So we'll start that at three o'clock
and hit the awful lot by four, or if we
get done with judging a little sooner than that, then
we'll just we'll hurry up and get the trophies done
because people like to.

Speaker 5 (01:36:26):
Get home and enjoy the day.

Speaker 1 (01:36:28):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Yeah, Jack Bieker, you're a great American in doing this,
and this is an ongoing effort. I love the great
folks of northern Kentucky because you live life the way
it should be led.