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August 8, 2025 • 22 mins
Willie talks Holly, the woman who was one of the victims of the infamous downtown brawl, about her side of the story.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, reds Faceball takes
off about five forties nine in Pittsburgh, but until then
Cincinnati has been the focus in the nation's attention because
of what happened about two weeks ago at the beatdown
of Holly and many others at Fourth and Elm. Going
to you and on now is at Holly, who's been
the victim of this terrible assault, And Holly, welcome to

(00:23):
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Holly, I
think the American people would like to know, how are
you feeling this afternoon?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well today, So normally before noon I don't really talk
to people because it takes me about three or four
hours to be able to really get out of bed.
Put a heating pad on my throat and neck so
the swelling kind of goes down so I can talk better.
So I'm laying in a very dark room right now

(00:52):
because I'm sensitive delight with the heating pads on me,
so I'm still still trying to get myself move in today.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Holly, first of all, our condolences.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Secondly, Uh, I want to get a perspective from you
about how the event transpired. According to media accounts. You
were there in order to celebrate a girlfriend's a birthday.
You're having a good time. Can you kind of walk
us through what happened when the uh, when you intervene
as a good Samaritan to try to help that guy
who was getting the crap kicked out of him? What

(01:25):
was in your mind when you when you came to
his assistance.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I just I heard him crying out for God and
he was beaten to an ench of his life right
in front of me. And uh, you know, there were
one hundred people on the streets watching and filming, and
then nobody was Nobody was stopping into help. People were

(01:49):
stepping into kicks and punch and uh, you know, curb
stump him, but nobody was helping to save him.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
And as just as a mom, you know, my natural
instinct is to help, and that just kind of mama
bear kicked in and I just was like, I can't,
you know, And as a Christian too, I can't sit
there and listen to someone cry out to God and
beg for someone to help him. And I, you know,

(02:21):
I thought that that was my duty if no one
else is going to And sadly, I had thought that
if I jumped in and kind of was in between
him and everyone else and they would calm down and
it would stop. Because this had gone on for fifteen
twenty minutes, I want to say, I mean, the videos

(02:43):
do not do justice of how long this truly just
it kept going and going and going, and you know,
the police hadn't come at this time because none of
the people filming had called nine one one, which enrages
me and it should be illegal at that fact. But

(03:05):
that's when I thought, you know, I need to come
help him up, because if he stayed on the ground,
or if he had fallen down one more time, I
do think he would have been literally beat to death.
I didn't expect someone to punch me. I don't know why,
maybe because I'm a woman, and I don't in my

(03:26):
mind thinks that, you know, no man's gonna punch a woman.
They might punch other men, but a woman they'll be like, okay,
we've had our fill of beat down. But that's not
what happened. I got attacked as well for trying to
help someone, which you know, this should have never happened.

(03:48):
There should have been enough police out there patrolling, not
just in their cars, but walking on streets like they
used to when I was a kid and I went
to Cincinnati for the game or any events there were,
there was no one, you know, we were We were
just left to fit for ourselves, knowing that this was

(04:08):
one of the biggest crime events of the year that
comes every year.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
And Holly uh. According to the video I saw, and
I it's hard to watch it is. It's heartbreaking. You
said at one point you felt like your soul left
your body. The first person that contacted you was a
woman who has since been indicted along with the other five.
But she kind of pushed you. Walk us through when

(04:34):
the woman behind you kind of pushed you, and then
the man literally cole cockt you.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh, it's uh. It just shows just how how disgusting
some people can be, how just you know, evil or
soul with or whatever. Because she came up from behind
me when I was trying to just beg please stop uh,
and I just kept repeating it stop, please please, And

(05:04):
I guess that angered her so she came running from behind.
I never saw any of this coming. She came up
and attacked me from behind. I think there was another
woman that had also hit me at the exact same
time and then but the woman had pushed me towards
the man who cold cought me, and as well, I

(05:27):
never saw him coming because he got me from the
He kind of came from the side with just all
of his might like a UFC fighter and just punched
me as hard as you possibly could and knocks me out,
and I just you know, I remember waking up, and

(05:50):
you know something, some details that I wasn't comfortable talking
about until now because it was too hard on me
because mentally I'm just still not okay. But I do
believe that my soul didn't leave my body for a purpose,
because I do remember with I came to it. When

(06:11):
I opened my eyes, it was so right.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I just saw bright lights everywhere, and I was so
confused or where I was what was going on.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Uh, you know, it could just be ahead.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Trauma or I could have you know, you could have
been the lights of when you people talk about when
they die. But luckily that that kind kind woman kept
just saying wake up, wake up, wake up, and I
think that it brought me back.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Uh. That's that's what I just keep replaying over and over.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Is uh, you know, my my soul didn't leave my body.
When I saw this lights that I I truly had
a near death experience, and it was it is just terrify.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
As far as when you were on the pavement and
blood's coming out of the side of your mouth, you're dazed.
I thought that woman, that woman's dead. You had the
same sense you say you felt like your soul left
your body, but you came back. And at that point,
what happened from you when you were knocked out, bleeding
in the streets of Cincinnati and then a woman kind
of bend over you to help you, to maybe keep

(07:22):
others from beating you.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, she protected me. I I'm forced to watch the
video because I have to, you know, do to everything happening. Obviously,
I'm gonna have to go to court in.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
TESTI by and talk about it and uh. And watching
the video, I could see one of the guys who
was curb something someone else. It appeared that he was
coming running at my body while my my life was
body with my eyes open, blood just comes gushing out.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
It looked like he was coming over to to, you know,
possibly curb stop me as well while I was down.
And God loved her for protecting me. Because earlier, when
the fight first started, she had got attacked by the
same woman who came and attacked me, and she kind
of ran and was able to get out of it.
But she was so brave that she came and protected

(08:20):
me even though she knew she was probably going to
get attacked. So I do, I do believe in humanity,
and I really appreciate her for that. I haven't I
haven't been able to say that to her because I
don't I don't know her, I don't know her name,
But thank you for saving.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
My life at that moment that you said this one
on fifteen or twenty minutes, when you look at the video,
you're thinking, okay, this thing is as short up and down.
One person called. Do you know who? The one person was?
The donal nine one one?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I do, and I didn't know it until I heard
the nine one one call, and then I confirmed it
with someone else who does know this person. But it
was one of the victims who had just got curb
stumps and kicked and punched and attacked by five, six,

(09:16):
seven people. He was able to get away and called
nine one one after she had been beaten. So no,
no one, no one recording who was out there called
nine one one.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
As far as the nine one one call, I would
anticipate you and you hope that when the police arrived,
they would have come and force dispersed the crowd, take
care of the mortally wounded, the injured, get the ambulances there.
What happened when those two Cincinnati police officers are arrived
on the scene.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, first, I want to go back to the nine
one one call. I've listened to it a few times,
and every time I listen to it, I actually get
more upset at the way that was handled. It was
almost like the lady was trying to talk him out
of even sending them one. She just kept being like,
so people are leaving, do you want us to send
someone or not? And he said there were about twenty

(10:16):
or thirty people. You know some of them are leaving. Uh,
you know. And keep in mind, on the call, this
man had already been knocked out cold, kicked in the head.
He's distorted, and on the nine to one one call,
she just is very short with him, is like, well,
do you want me to send someone or not? It

(10:36):
shouldn't even be an option. If somebody says there's they
even jump by twenty people, then they nine to one
one should automatically say someone's on the way, helps on
the way, So it starts that's that's level one, and
then level two. When the police show up, there's two
two cop cars, and they don't call for backup. They

(11:00):
don't call for ambulance, you know. And I was told
that there were literally only a few officers on duty
and the whole city of Cincinnati that night, which on
one of the number one crime weekends of the year.
Why would you only staff a few police officers, So

(11:22):
I don't even know if they had people to call
for backup. And I don't blame the police officers. Yes
they mishandled how they they treated us, but you know,
or the situation, But I blame the higher up. I
blame the police chief or whoever it was you was
supposed to stop accordingly knowing for the past fifteen years,

(11:44):
that is a fact that this is one of the
highest crime nights of the year.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
This Jazz Fusti and Holly, what about do they get
your name? You must have been in horrible condition. There's
blood in your I've seen the photos of you that
night with blood all over your body, your eyes are days.
Did the police interview you, get your name anything like that.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
No, no, not at all. The others were a few
of the victims were very persistent on giving their information
the officers or security or whoever it was. I've for
different stories that it wasn't even police officers, it was security.

(12:26):
Other people say it was police officers, so that I
don't know. But nonetheless, they they were not trying to
get our information. I think they were acting like we
were the hoodlums that started it because of our their
shirts being torn and blood on their faces. I don't
my brain still doesn't understand any of why they would

(12:50):
think that we didn't need help. But no, my name
was not even they didn't even ask her my name.
I think one of the other victims gave it to
the detective the next day when he started looking into it,
and I just, you know, I got in my uber
and left because I was like, this is a joke.

(13:11):
They don't care, absolute disgrace, and you know, I should
just go home and sleep it off and just forget
this happened. I wasn't even gonna file a report because
I was like, the police don't care. What's the point
They're not even going to look into it.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
What was your condition when you got into the uber?
Your physical Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well, obviously I had a concussion that's still going on
two weeks later. It's it's intense and severe, but I
had blood all over me. The poor uber driver definitely was.
He was scared and was just kind of like, you know,
are you sure you want to get in? And I'm like,
please just go because I since no backup was called,

(13:56):
I thought that the riot would start up again, or
you know, whatever word you want to call it. I
don't want to use the wrong word here, but to me,
whatever it was, it had gone on for so long.
I was in fear that it was going to start again.
So I just wanted to get the heck out of there.
And especially if the police were not trying to get

(14:18):
my information, then what was the point of staying. So
so yeah, I went home and just went to bed
with my concussion, which is wild to me looking back,
I'm like I should have. I could have died in
my sleep.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, the police did not take your information, did not
get your name, did not arrest anyone to enough foul reports.
According to one report, they leaned up against their police
car and folded their arms. Is that true?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes, yeah, I remember the gentleman doing it. I can't
quite remember this female, but the gentleman, out of everything,
that's kind of glorryed to me. That's one thing that
I remember because when he had his arms crossed, just
being very nonchalant, that's when I was like, I'm not
canceling my uber. I'm getting in and I'm leaving and

(15:11):
I'm getting out of this town. But it's sad because
Cincinnati has so much to offer. But at that moment,
I was like, this town has just gone to hell.
I call it. I call it Gotham City now, where
it's just run rampant with all of the crime, and
I feel like it is being condoned and encouraged by

(15:34):
you know, council. Like what the councilwoman said about me
getting the beatdown that I deserved or something like that
has me just confused. I'm like, no, wonder Cincinnati has
just gone to gone down so bad because there's no consequences.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Holly Yah Victoria Parks is the president pro tema council.
She said quote they beg for the beatdown. It's kind
of a silly question. But did you beg for that beatdown?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
No, so I did not ask anyone to beat me down.
And the next day, I think what's even more upsetting
is the fact that she said I'm a grown woman
and I can say what I want and I stand
by my statement, or something like that, And I just
want to say to her, yes, you are a grown woman,

(16:28):
but you can have opinions behind closed doors. And when
you're in a position of yours and power position of yours,
you you going public saying that we got to beat
down we deserve means that you want these thugs and
criminals to continue to go on the streets and do

(16:51):
these heinous crimes. And your job is to protect us,
not to put us in harm's way. So I'm just
at there are no where to describe how I feel
about specifically her comments, and it's obvious that she does
not have the public's best interest.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Uh Holly, there were those reporting of racial epithets were
used against the white victims. Can you say whether or
not you can recall any racial epithets, are sexual epithets
directed at you or the others?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I definitely remember racial stores towards us, and you know
I I don't want to comment too much because I
don't know what I can and can't say as far
as there is still an ongoing investigation. But yes, I
can vouch that there were racial slurs being thrown at

(17:52):
the white people.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
It's the Holly Law, which I talked to Sanaa Marino.
You've spent time with him. What would Holly's Law entail?
And I would think this would fly through the legislature.
But nonetheless, what would you like? Nothing good can come
of this, But is there some element of Holly's Law
that may help?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, And that's the thing where I don't really want
to make it a whole like black and white. Yes,
there were racial slurs thrown out, but I think just
the fact that the judges have just been so gentle
on these thugs and criminals. None of them should have
been on the street to begin with. They should have

(18:34):
been in jail for some of their if you guys
could look up their crime. Yeah, it's disturbing that they
were even out in general public. And the fact that
as citizens, I think that it should be a law,

(18:57):
or it should be criminal to there and record these
heinous violent crimes. You know, first off, encouraging it. Awful. Yeah,
shame on them morally, But I think as a good Samaritan,
it should be a law that they have to call
nine one one before they're allowed to video, you know,

(19:22):
call nine on one, say this is the street I'm at.
There's thirty people jumping five people and there's like one
hundred people on the street watching. Please get here. Then
they can hang up in video because there were plenty
more footage, you know. But I think it should be illegal.
And that's what Hollyolaw, you know, we're kind of pushing for.
Is It's not just you know, the police officers. They're

(19:44):
severely understaffed, and you know, it's scary for them out
there too. And I think it starts with the top,
but it also starts with us as humans, as good Samaritans.
You know, don't jump in like I did. That was
outrageous of me to think that I could help stop

(20:05):
it or help to save this man's life. But if
nine one wanted been called by anyone who got out
their fund to record first, the police would have been
their way before I would have ever had to.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
And they had to come with the attitude we have
victims of crime, We have to help you. Lastly, Holly,
what message would you like to give to the mayor?
I have to have puival.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I just want to say it's the mayor. You know.
I want change to start happening. I want the streets
to be safe. I want you guys to all start
putting your egos aside, whether it's politicians or share it
versus police, and this is my territory. Let's all come
together and start figuring out a solution and figuring out

(20:52):
how to keep the streets safe, because at this point
it has almost gotten to the point of no return.
Just how awful the crime is and it's not working.
Whatever you guys are doing is not working. So let's
do the opposite. Let's try and come together for the solution.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
You know, flowery words and rhetoric is nice, but action
is required. Hollie. I'm going to give out later how
the American people can assist you in this regard, but
once again, our condolences on your visit to our city
and hopefully your word so have a measurable impact. I'm
glad the soul never left your body and you're still
with us.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, thank you so much, sir, and God bless you
for sharing this story to where good can come out
of it. And that's what I really want to make
sure people know. We need to make sure good comes
out of this, so this does not happen to your
mother or daughter or loved one. Let it. Let me
be the last one. This happens too.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Hollie, you're a great American and thanks for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Holly, your mama bear.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
We'll talk again. Thank you, Ollie. Well, let's continue with
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