LIVE on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham 6/1/2025

Terrorist attack in Colorado. Ukraine launces a major attack against Russia...and what will Russia's response be? Bill chats with Mark Skousen, Thane Rosenbaum and John Lott.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the one and only Bill Cunningham.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
H right, Billy Cunningham, the great American, and we want
to thank you very much for tuning in this beautiful
Sunday night in the nation. A couple of had events
of transpiring almost as I'm speaking. Six injured an attack
on an Israelia situation. The hostage advocates in Colorado and
Boulder get together now and then they tend to be
older Americans, they tend to be Jewish. And it's not

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a protest, not a march, And what it is is
several individual and individuals get together and just silently pray
for the hostages kept on the ground in Gaza. And
a person known as Mohammed Solomon, who was here illegally,
I might add, from Egypt to overstate his visa, took

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it upon himself to use a makeshift flamethrower, whatever that is,
in order to kill as many as possible. It appears
that four or five are fighting for their lives, including
an older woman. And he also was heard to shout repeatedly, free,
Free Palestine, Free Palestine. And we have at this point

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indications that it was a hate crime. They were targeted
because of their faith, and it's terrible circumstance, awful. It's
unimaginable that a person in Boulder, Colorado could take it
upon themselves to connect somehow these six individuals to Palestine,
who were simply remarking that there's still about four dozen

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hostages remaining living as moles, as mice on the ground
being held captive by Hamas. The conflict could end tonight,
right now, nine minutes after the hour. All Amas has
to do is recognize reality, to surrender their arms, give
up the hostages, more aid flows in, and somehow the
rebuilding can begin. It cannot be done with Hamas directly

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or indirectly in charge of anything. Is there a hate group.
It'd be like leaving Berlin in charge of the Nazis
in nineteen forty five. That would never happen This is
a hate organization, a hate group organized for the purpose
of killing Jews and Westerners wherever they might be located,
including and the Twin Towers, wherever they might be located

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in Skanksville, Pennsylvania, wherever they might be located in the Pentagon.
There's been a quarter of a million attacks by Islamist
over the past fifty years.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Quarter of a million.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Of course, the great majority killed by these radicals, these
murderers are Muslims themselves. But nonetheless, what happened this afternoon
and Boulder is disgusting, it's awful, it's terrible. And we
also have another terrible event taking place, and that is
that it appears that Ukraine, several hours ago claims that

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a massive drone strike on Russian bombers called Operation Spiderweb
has been quite successful against the Russian bear. Another evildoer,
of course, is Vladimir Putin. He's killed millions of people
directly and indirectly. They used an occasion to it's incredible
how this was pulled off, as audacious attacks took place

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three thousand miles inside Russian territory. According to a source,
the Ukrainian smuggled drones in the Russia, followed by mobile
wooden cabins. Once the inside Russians, the drones were hidden
inside the cabin roofs on the back of like eighteen
wheelers mounted on cargo trucks, and during the attack looked

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like a peaceful operation. And we're talking three thousand miles
in the Ukraine near Siberia. Once inside Russia, during the attack,
the roofs opened up remotely, enabling the drones to launch
at Russian bombers, according to the source, who added the
operation was overseen by Zelenski himself and executed by Ukrainian

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security services. Russia did not immediately comment on the bombings,
but tonight, which is early in the morning in Moscow,
Vladimir Putin has called together his cabinet to talk about
an appropriate response on Evan Moore and also in the
last few hours have been several large bridges in Russia

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itself blown up seemingly by Ukrainian secret service members. The
Ukrainian Army set a Russian missile strike on an army
training unit this morning, killed at least twelve Ukrainian service
members injuring fifty. This is the latest escalation and two
bridges there are several bridges collapsing in Russia itself, occasioned

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by drone technology in the hands of Ukrainians. It takes
a five hundred dollars drone to kill two billion dollars
worth of forty one SSU seventy one bombers. Long range
nuclear capable bombers were targeted by Ukrainians some three thousand
miles east of their border. So say this as a

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shock would be an understatement. And what Putin's going to
do at this point, god only knows. Hours later, in
the Kursk region, which is clo the Ukraine, a railroad
bridge in the pedestrian pathway collapsed while a freight train
was crossing. And so all hell's about to break loose Monday,
Tuesday and Wednesday, And there's a concern in Washington that

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maybe the tactical nukes might be used by Putin, who's
a mass murderer. It's the wars being brought home, and
Zelensky has said now that there'll be more of these attacks.
In fact, they're going to attack. They're going to attack
Moscow itself, which they've done repeatedly, and kill other members
of the Russian General Corps. But this one attack called

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Operation Spiderweb, has taken out thirty five percent of the
Russian air Force capable of delivering bombs and nuclear missiles.
These are the large bombers, and thirty five percent of
the Russian Air Force has been blown up earlier today
by Ukrainians. I don't know what's going to come of this,

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and I stay with you're creating people one thousand percent,
and the reference to be free of the Russian bear,
which is riek Tavoc in the world now for the
past eighty years. And then of course another Jewish attack
attacked by Jews, innocent individuals simply walking in a pleasant
day and so called the Pearl Street area of Boulder,

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and I know many of my listeners are familiar with
with that area. It's beautiful, it's forbidden to have cars
and other traffic being going in that area, and it
was usually essentially as a stroll on a Sunday afternoon.
And according to media accounts, there's a synagogue that sponsors
quiet prayer recognizing there are still many shall always say,

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being held hostage by terrible circumstances in Gaza, and at
this point I know four or five are fighting for
their lives makeship set these Jews on fire. As Mohammed
saw was yelling, free Palestine, Free Palestine. It's almost a

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regular event occasioned by the Petri dish happening on college campuses,
in which Jews are targeted in this country, whether walking
outside of an Israeli embassy, praying in a synagogue, or
simply walking on a public street because of the faith
that they hold. And it's not getting better, it's getting
a whole lot worse. And in this case with Mohammed Suleiman,

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he came into America in August of twenty twenty two
under a visa program, under the idea that he was
going to be a tourist. And right now he was
given a six month permission to tour the country to
look at the Grand Canyon or whatever. But there's one
point one million, at a minimum foreigners who've overstayed their
visa without permission to do so under deportation orders, and

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Mohammed Solomon was one of those. He came here in
August of twenty twenty two, and he simply and right
now tonight as we speak, the FBI, and I'm sure
Dan Bongino, who's a great American himself and Fatel are
going to track this downs. Did he have any help whatsoever.
He's forty five years old using a makeshift flamethrower to

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set Jews on fire, yelling free Palestine, Free Palestine. So
we'll deal with that also tonight. Our response, I don't
know what it can be. The haven and apprehension. Mohammed
Solomon is under arrest, and I'm sure they go through
his social history and his phone things of that character.
He will spend the rest of his life in jail.
Forty five years old, So we're going to spend about

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thirty thousand dollars a year and his maintenance and feeding
for the next thirty or forty years because he decided
to take out a jihad against Jews. And the words
are similar to what you hear on Columbia campuses, Harvard
and Yale and UCLA. Yesterday was a so called day
of rage that was called by many simply to talk

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about the plight of Palestinians in Gaza. All it takes
is Homostas surrender and the war's over. The hostages are free,
the kids are fed, and life is as good as
it can.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Be for them. A day of rage in our country.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
It's not about building schools or hospitals or infrastructure for
long term well being. The day of rage by the
Palestinian supporters here not about creating jobs or nurturing or
culture or voluntarism or advancing education. What's it about, as
violently in ugly ways, directing fury against Israel and the

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Jewish people living in America and those who simply want
to live in peace with everyone who dare to support
the Jewish states right to exist. So thereafter America, there's
a few million in this country, many on college campuses,
that couldn't care less about the status of the Israeli people,
and they bought the lies told to them by Amas

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and Hesbla and boc a Ram and the Taliban and Iss, etc.
The organizers here, whether it's the Palestinian authority or their
international gang of cheerleaders or not rallying specifically for Palestinian
statehood or prosperity. This exploits the pain that so many
of us feel in a cycle of violence without offering

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a path to a better future. In fact, there's no
place in the Islamic country where a woman has the
right to exist. I've seen reports on newsweek dot com
about Saudi Arabian women who have not are behaving incorrectly
according to their husbands, put in these re education camps
in Saudi Arabia where these women are like beaten and

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cane on a regular basis denied food and bathroom privileges
because they're female. And the main thing on college campus
is that Donald Trump's trying to fight their interest in
one thing that is killing Jews, destroy the Palestinian state
and replacing it with one controlled by Hamas. One can

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imagine that status. One can imagine the Palestinian Authority, which
is headquartered in the West Bank, is viewed by the
UN and others, is somehow moderate, But the Palestinian Authority
itself will reward those terrorists who murder innocent men, women
and children who are Jewish. The PA, the Palestinian Authority

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in doctrinates kids with hatred through school curricula and media.
And this is not about building a nation, It's about
destroying one, and it's Israel. So these days of rage
called here in various parts of Middle East, shall we
say a misnumber. You know, when I spent my time

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in Israel about two and a half years ago, Israel
looked like the Gaza appeared in nineteen forty eight.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
It was a.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
And the Jews, by work and perseverance, by the way,
they were immediately attacked by six of their Muslim neighbors,
Syria and Lebanon, Jordan. Egypt just unleashed fury on Israel,
and by the hand of God, they survived. And their
success is not a fluke. Israel's success is not a fluke.
It is a result of a people adopting Western democratic

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principles of work and resilience. In fact, there are members.
There's Islamic members of the Kanesse in Tel Aviv. There's
Islamic Muslim members of the Supreme Court of Israel. You
see it every day. The Muslims who want to live
in a functional society live in Israel. And when faced

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with wars and adversity, the Jews dig down deep and
they through resilience and perseverance and fear of God, love
of Israel, and commitment to life, they win. They win,
and they win again. But until Hamas acknowledges reality and
says we now as a force, will give up our arms.

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We surrender.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
We've lost.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
We're not going to continue to use our own people
as shields for the armaments that were using to kill Jews.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
We're not going to do it anymore.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
We're done, and the war would end tonight, it'd be
over Amas. They lost IDF one. Let's protect the innocent men,
women and children of Gaza, and God knows there's many
of those who need to be house clothed and fed tonight.
But what's keeping that from occurring is not Israel, not
the Jews. It's Hamas, who will not surrender. You might

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recall that in twenty oh five, twenty years ago, Israel
completely withdrew from the Gaza, leaving behind in their wake infrastructure, schools,
hospitals built by the Jews, green houses and more. It
was the foundation of a Palestinian state, and they then
received billions of dollars of aid from all around the world,

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including the UN.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Well.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
After a while, Hamas sees power, sees control voted in
by the Palestinians living in Gaza and the uh the
grain factories who were looted the greenhouses were allowed to
go follow and all of a sudden the land was
used as a launching pad for rockets into Israel. Hamas

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in charge simply did not want to build their own state.
What they want to do is kill the Jew. And
it's happening all over the world, including Uh tonight sought
to kill in Boulder. It's it's unbelievable, and this obsession
to kill the Jew has consequences for Arab kids who
grew up in a world where their heroes taught to

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them by their parents and the schools. The heroes in
Gaza are suicide bombers. Those are the heroes. The PA
will name streets after suicide bombers and pay their families
as the economy languishes and their leaders priorities jihat over jobs.
It's an organizing factor to go against the Jew. It's sick,

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and it's said. Hospitals and the factories left behind by
the Israeli involvement in Gaza giving up some twenty years ago.
Now the hole land is devastated, not because of Israel.
They're trying to defend themselves against the Hamas terrorists who
cut out babies out of mother's wombs and rape the

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carcasses of dead girls. On October the seventh, that's what happened.
It's a spectacle. It's unbelievable. You ought to be a
reason for rage against Hamas and Hezbollah. And take it
for one, this great American does not believe that Iran
is ever going to give up nuclear capabilities.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Never.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Let's continue with more. Want to get your reaction to
this and so much more. If we have five lines
open now eight six six six four seven seven three
three seven eight six six six four seven seven three
three seven. Bill Cunningham, your calls are next with you
every Sunday night. And you know this brazen blitz by

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Ukraine three thousand miles inside Russia was planned for eighteen months.
It was called Operations Spider's Web, series of coordinated drone
strikes deep into Russian territory three thousand miles. One was
near the Siberian border, and it shocked its shocked the
Russian completely. The Ukraine authorities used small drones hidden inside

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wooden cabinets and cabins mounted on flatbed trucks dispersed all
over Russia, thinking it was simply a commercial enterprise. And
when the trucks reached their target near six different air
force bases deep inside Ruhrussia in which these large Russian
bombers were there, the roofs opened by remote control, and

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the drones flew, launched and dove into these t thirty one,
a large Russian the bombers destroying everyone they hit. And
then after about a fifteen to twenty minutes, each of
these so called flatbed trucks blew themselves up remotely, so
it's little evidence. And on top of that, Zelensky sent

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drones to Russian bridges taking them out. And so right
now it's early morning, it's about six twenty eight am
in the morning in Moscow, and Vladimir Putin is fit
to be tied. What's the next step I don't know,
but Zelenski now promises more of these type at texts.
And lastly, let's say you're in the Oval office. Let's

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say you're Donald Trump, and you'll watch what happened in Boulder,
Colorado earlier today. What do you do if anything? Suddenly
we're being drawn into the Gosen situation when the t
Rumpsters trying to bring peace, and it's much difficult if
you were sitting in the Oval office now, what would
you do if anything? Eight sixty six six four seven

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seven three three seven. Want to get your reaction to
what is going to happen sometime, I guess Monday or
Tuesday or Wednesday, the world is on the precipice of something.
I don't have a good feeling in my heart? Do
you about this? About both situations? Eight sixty six six
four seven seven three three seven Bill cunning and the
Great American with you every Sunday night. Now, maybe it's

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a good thing. The college kids are out for the
next three months, and most of the commencement speakers have
now been ushered off stage, away from the podiums in
which they show support for Hamas and Hesbela. Because to me,
the double standard we got Gregan Michigan and Paul and
Idaho be the first two callers. Double standard is unbelievable

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because the Palestinian Arabs themselves.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Reject the idea.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
In fact, their charter calls for the destruction of Israel
and the murder of Jews, and the Palestinian authorities is
a pay for slave policy that incentivizes terror. The double standard,
the moral bankruptcy is incredible, and the college kids that
shout the slogans approved by Hamas should be expelled and
if not citizens, they should be sent back to their

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home countries. I like to know if the world really
cared about Palestinian Arabs, they'd want their money back. Beginning
in twenty oh five, when billions were sent into the
guys to build more hospitals and factories and orchards. Instead,
it was used by Hamas to kill Jews. I would ask,
how come yes their airfat rejected a state in the

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year two thousand and why did mcmod Habbas now on
the West Bank walk away from any negotiations? And why
does Hamas fire rockets from civilian areas under hospitals into Israel?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I would question.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I would ask where what are the billions of dollars
of aid that we sent to guys?

Speaker 1 (21:14):
How was it spent?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Was he spent to develop weapons and build tunnels under
schools and hospitals, or was he spent to uplift the
gods and people? The answer is obvious. Let's go to
the calls, as I promised, and later on, in about
an hour and a half, we'll have a guest or
two coming on. One of them is going to be
fabulous to talk about how Hamas has infiltrated college campuses,

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right right, Who's paying for this stuff on college campuses?
Either Hamas or Cutter that's who's paying for it and
to me now to be fully investigated. Let's continue now,
let's go to uh, Greg and Michigan and Paul and Idaho,
and then a couple of calls from Ohio and then
one from California and Greg and Michigan. Welcome to the

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Bill Unningham. Greg, what do you got? What would you
do tonight if you were in charge?

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (22:05):
My god, Bill, it's an honor. Hey, real quick, I'm
known as mister Positive. Me and Chris Cuomo talk about
our culture and our society. I've got to ask you, Bill,
I appreciate your knowledge. How do we we have so
much division in our culture and our society? How do
we bring unity? I mean, what what is happening? Would

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happened in Boulder, Colorado? I mean, it's pretending. This is
getting so out of hand that what do we do?
I mean, it's everywhere. What do you think is the
reason for the youth of today that are doing this,
whether it be Israel's Israelis or Palestinians or whatever. I

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guess Bill, what I want to ask you is how
do we bring unity to this country?

Speaker 4 (22:55):
I don't give you an idea.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Giving Donald Trump in the mind some and as an
extremely divisive leader. He's the only president we've ever had
with numerous Jewish grandchildren. But his success would be perceived
as a failure by Hollywood, by the universities, by the
modern Democratic Party. They do not want him to succeed.

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And if Trump fails, the nation fails. Something is wrong politically.
When we as a people elected Donald Trump overwhelmingly to
be the leader, he laid out what he wanted to do.
American people said, I want that from the moment he
was sworn in. Fact, before he was sworn in for
the second time about five months ago, the Democratic Party,
in the so called thought producers in this country attacked

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him mercilessly.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Really, they attacked us.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
But we wanted tariffs to protect the American vote worker.
We voted for that. We wanted the southern border shut down,
we voted for that. We wanted a strong military, we
voted for that. We wanted peace in the Ukraine, we
wanted peace in Gaza. We want to bring the federal
spending more or less under control.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Role.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
We want to expand the military. We want the tax cuts.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
But the Democratic Party is in business not to uplift
or reflect the policies that we voted for. It is
to maintain They know if he succeeds, they fail. They
want power, and they want money through USAID and other
government programs to hand out billions of dollars to individuals
who kick the money back to Democrats. The whole system
is not set up for success. It is set up

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for failure. And when I watch a Keem Jeffries and others,
there's not one good thing Donald Trump has ever done.
He will not help, not support, And I fear there
might be some well meeting senators like Rand Paul. I
love that guy, but we have to move forward a
little bit. And I understand what he's thinking about the deficit,
and I get that, But we have to have a
country that's functional, and our political parties are not set

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up to work with the other guy to make it succeed.
Do you think if Donald Trump is a good president
that would make it Keem Jefferies happy. But when Nancy
Pelosi say that's great, Donald Trump did well, that's a
good thing for the country. I think Chuck Schumer would say,
you know what, I'm gonna work with this president Donald Trump,
because he was elected and the people want him I'm
gonna give him a year or two to see what

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he can do. And do you think if we succeed
in what Donald Trump is doing? And by the way,
so far we have succeeded. The inflation number zero point
five percent, real wage growth growth is underway and it's succeeding.
But do you think the Democratic Party wants Trump to succeed?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
No? No, no, not at all.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
No.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
No.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
Yeah, I mean, wow, Billy, you've done your homework. But
here's the thing. Yeah, I mean, Trump, you know, in
certain respects, is good. But do you think and I
don't want to judge his you know, the efficacy of
his platforms predicated upon his personality, But don't you think

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that he is the reason in essence that he could
do things better and be more civil as to wag
he dispenses and disperses his you know, the way you know,
his platforms instead of putting people down. Let's say he
doesn't like Billy Cunningham and he puts you down. But
Bill Cunningham has some great ideas. But because it goes

(26:15):
against Donald Trump's you know, opinions and thoughts, I'm Bill
Cunningham's He's a bad.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Person, right, Let me say this, Donald Trump's policies will work,
give it a chance. I fear that Republicans in the
Senate will not give it a chance. His peccadillo's, his manner,
his expressions, a little bit rough around the edges, but
damn it, when you punch him, he takes a chainsaw

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to his opponents. He fights and fights and fights because
he knows that the King, Jefferies and Chuck Schumer and
Nancy Pelosi and Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton do not wish
him well. He can do nothing to convince them to
work with him on anything, and the first term showed that.
So I understand what you're saying. If he had Ronald
Reagan's per personality, his ability to tell a joke, to
be self deprecating, it might work. But I doubt it

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because the Democrats are not accept Donald Trump's policies, and
they used the piccadillos and the personality is an excuse
to oppose his policies. Let's continue now with Paul and
Idaho and then Paul from Youngstown, Ohio. Paul and Idaho welcome.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
Yeah, thank you very much, sir. Great to talk to
you again. It's been about eight months. As I talked
to you asked, yes, sir, yeah, good, A good prayer,
a good gap with prayer for peace, and it would
be Yeah, the thing was really to be spoken for
the most But you know, that was a stunt that
Linski pulled.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
But I fear that it.

Speaker 8 (27:43):
Could cause some really really bad damage, a lot more
than just some blames on the airfield. And you know,
as far as as far as Trump is concerned, i'w
back him all the way down the line. You know,
he's a commander in chief. You got to whether you
are him or not, whether you think his politics are
bad or good, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
You gotta be behind him tonight.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
You know, Paul, can you imagine I understand my last caller.
I get that I kind of wish he, in a
sense at times would not send out tweets that are insulting,
because you shouldn't punch below your weight class. When he
goes after the Boss, or goes after Beyonce, goes after
jay Z, I don't care. I ignore that stuff because
his policies work. If his policies were implemented and more successful,

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that is a failure in the minds of the Democratic Party.
They want him to lose. They want him to look buffoonish.
They want him to fail because they want power and
they want their money back, and that's why they're against Trump.
But if Trump had Ronald Reagan's personality, the opposition would be
exactly the same. And by the way, I just looked
to my right, the great one Mark Levin, and I

(28:53):
have him on whenever I can, said tonight on his
Fox News show that for all intents and purposes, Iran
has a nuclear weapon, plus they have missile technology.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
Yeah, that's what I wanted to finish with. I think
it was who the president if he's going to destroy
Iran's facility, that he's not used nukes.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
They can't use that.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
Against us, because if you use a nuke, you're opening
up the can of worms. It can't be closed.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Paul, what happens if what happens if putin in the
next few days. And this is the greatest attack, the
most successful attack on Russian territory since nineteen forty four.
I mean, I'm talking something. Can you imagine if America
tonight lost one third of their of their nuclear capable bombers,
the B one, the B two. What if some foreign

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power invaded our country into the heart of Montana and
North and South Dakota and blew up one third of
our air force.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
What that's what? That's how good this was or bad?
I'm not sure what.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
We still have a subs.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
I guess we launched drones and took out one third
of our military bases.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
What would we do to Iran?

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Well, it'd be.

Speaker 9 (30:15):
Better to make them, yeah, to make.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Them yeah, yeah, that may.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
But now we have Russia tonight and in the morning,
it's like eight forty four am this morning in Moscow,
Vladimir Putin was waking up to an enraged military and
then they've told their own people what happened to five
air force bases attacked by Absolutely it took eighteen months

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to organize this thing, three thousand miles inside Russia.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Are you kidding me? It was stunning.

Speaker 8 (30:52):
Did he cross over into territory?

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Is well?

Speaker 10 (30:57):
I want to know.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
No, he went.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
He went from Ukraine, and they had this elaborate scheme
in which dozens of drones militarized were put inside wooden
cabins mated on the back of trucks when they got
close to the air bases.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Simultaneously.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
They had to do it at the same time they
launched the drones, taking out one third of the Russian
air force.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I'm going are you kidding? Planes?

Speaker 8 (31:28):
They were lined up just like they were just like
they were in Hawaii at Ford Field when the Japanese
bombed the airfield there.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, they couldn't conceived they and they were all lined up.
They could not conceive that three thousand miles inside Russia
that Ukraine would attack their plus tonight that took out
several bridges in Russia.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
So what's going to happen tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
Well, we're gonna take the deep breast and we'll get
to that bridge, will across it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Literally. Well, Paul, thank you, thanks for calling in. But
it's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
According to Zelenski, the mission took eighteen months of planning
from the start to today. He added that are people
involved in preparing the operation war were withdrawn from Russian
territory and time and it's like unbelievable. And then the
flatbed trucks themselves and the wooden cabins blew up under

(32:29):
the That was part of the plan. Also, it's stunning,
and the fact that Vladimir Putin would announce this publicly
is preparing the Russian people for something gigantic. He calls
it a terrorist act, that is Russia calls it. The
Ukrainians claimed thirty four percent of Russia's strategic bombers were hit,

(32:54):
estimating damages of seven billion dollars. The BBC, who I
don't trust at all, monitoring, reported that other Ukrainian experts
said the estimate might be two to three billion, and
they're not replaceable for another two to four years. And
it's happening as peace talks are planned between UK and
Russia starting tomorrow Monday in Istanbul.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
And in response, I can only imagine what the response
is going to be. According to Pete Hegseth, Secretary Defense,
I love saying that Secretary Defense Pete Hegseth said that
we were not involved whatsoever in this operation. We were
not notified ahead of time. US officials were skeptical of
reports of fifty Russian bombers were hit. The number, it

(33:42):
said might be closer to fifteen and not fifty, but
way have satellite technology. But to look at it on Facebook,
the bombers are lined up like at Ford Field and
Pearl Harbor and just hit one after another. They did
this three thousand miles inside Russia. Also also they damaged
the Russian A fifty radar aircraft used to direct Russian

(34:05):
air power against Ukraine. And unbelievable. Well, let's take short break.
We continue. I don't know what's going to happen, but
say it, prayer, maybe the prayer Saint Michael. Let's continue,
and calls from Ohio and San Diego and New York.
If three lines open eight six six six four seven

(34:27):
seven three three seven, Bill Cunning and the Great America
with you every Sunday night. All right, now, let's continue
with your calls. Eight sixty six six four seven seven
three three seven. I want to give credit to Bill
Milusion of Fox News on this next little snippet about

(34:49):
the Boulder, Colorado terror suspect. By the way, I watched
the news conference, the chief of police of Boulder, Colorado
said he couldn't really identify it as an active terror,
that it would be irresponse to say as such until
there's more of a full investigation with the FBI. Disagreed,
and the Attorney General of Colorado disagreed. But I guess
Boulder is an extremely democratic, liberal place. They don't want

(35:12):
to say someone named Mohammed Solomon, who is yelling free Palestine,
might have a motive to kill Jews. Now there's a
clue there, Sherlock. But nonetheless I regress that Mohammed Solomon,
who used a improvised flamethrower and or Molotov cocktails at
a pro Israel march on Sunday, is an Egyptian national

(35:37):
who was in the US illegally. Surprised there, Sherlock. According
to reports, Solomon entered the country under Joe Biden's B
one B two non immigrant visa, arriving in Los Angeles
on August of twenty seven, twenty twenty two. That's one
hell of a way to get to LA Leaving Egypt,

(35:57):
you think you go into the East coast for some reason,
to the West coast. His visa authorized him to stay
in the country until February of twenty twenty three, but
overstate and never left, never reapplied. He had a work
visa that expired in early twenty twenty four, but said,
a hell with it. No one's going to come get me.

(36:17):
Trump's not going to win the presidency. I'll just stay here.
According to Bill Mlusion three, senior Department of Homeland Security,
officials said, Solomon did file a claim for asylum, and
it was under Joe Biden, and he granted work authorization
which expired twenty twenty four. And so at this point

(36:41):
it is terror. It is a hate crime, just like
the one outside the Israeli Embassy in Washington, d C.
About three weeks here, where that lovely couple was gunned
down because of their so called Jewish faith. By the way,
one was a Catholic, the other one was a Jew
And the fool that did that is now going to
spend the rest of his life from prison. The Petri Dish,

(37:02):
the foundation, the cauldron that the hatred comes out of,
is manifested on college campuses like Harvard and Yale. I
could not imagine if half a well fifty years ago,
if last week members of the ku Klux Klan would
invade Columbia, Harvard, and Yale and shout the N word

(37:25):
at black students, how long would those campuses put up
with that? The answer is the students are expelled. That
is hate speech.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Hate speech is protected by the First Amendment. By the way,
that is permitted, But it didn't give you the right
to be on a college campus. Doesn't give you the
right to work on a college campus if he used
that kind of word. The hate speech is directed by
government activities, not by private employment. But nonetheless, for some reason,
a lot of this is put up with when it
shouldn't be. Let's continue with your calls eight sixty six

(37:58):
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and North Carolina and New York.

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Speaker 1 (38:55):
Now let's continue. We never stop.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
We simply continue covering the story. The next few is
going to be very interesting to see the response of
Vladimir Putin having about thirty percent of his bomber fleet
eliminated by drones to launch by Ukraine inside cabins, wooden
cabins on the back of flatbed trucks five different air
Force bases, take it out and plus bridges. So I

(39:18):
don't know what's going to happen. I know there's a
pow wow happening this morning, which about eight hours from now,
about seven o seven am in Moscow, to see what's
going to happen. The next shooter drop. And lastly, before
I go back to the calls, we have a call
from Ohio and one from Michigan eight six six six
four seven seven three three seven. The Harvard situation is

(39:41):
more than interesting. It's almost like it is a trading ground,
a madrasa organized against the Jewish people by Harvard and
by Yale, and by Colombia and many other universities. In fact,
in the nineteen nineties, it was common to have three
to four percent of international students come to Harvard. It

(40:01):
was the motto is a veritas truth, and so the
best and brightest from America would go want to go
to Harvard. I was proud to go to zab University.
I was proud to go to University of Toledo Law School.
But nonetheless I probably didn't have the chops to get
into Harvard. But nonetheless I used to be forty percent
right now it's four percent now it's thirty percent, and

(40:23):
a great bulk of them, of course, are from China.
Who are Chinese spies? And I like to have the
president of Harvard what's his name, Gerber something rather Gerber,
that somehow understand that Chinese students are here to steal
and transmit information to the Communist Party or certain Middle

(40:46):
Eastern students on student visus have turned Harvard into a
Hamas recruiting center. Have you seen the video of Hamas
students running around Harvard keeping Jews from going to class.
I guess he's chosen sides the president. I think the
president Gerber is Jewish, but he's rejected Donald Trump's doj

(41:08):
and the American people who say, now, wait a minute,
who are the students? Where are they coming from? Have
you scrubbed their social media? Are they spies? Are they
Hamas sympathizers? And by the way, aren't there less chances
of an American kid going to Harvard if the thirty
percent are foreign students?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I would think so.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
And I think Garber has the burden of being Jewish
so as to make sure he sticks it to Israel,
then he has more cred. Unbelievable, another Jewish individual running
a high government position is Governor Pritzker of Illinois, and
he's a virulent anti Israel pro Hamas, anti Trump governor

(41:53):
of Illinois, who, by the way, wants to be the
next president. The motto of Harvard is Veritas, which means truth.
If it was true, why would you allow Jewish kids
on campus to fear for their lives going to classes
and being surrounded acting as if they've done something wrong.

(42:15):
This is in America by students that are here not
as a right but as a privilege. And they come
here and they organize madrasas against America, against Western democracies.
And some of the worst aspects are, of course, females
who are here from foreign lands, and they act as
if America is not the home of the free, in

(42:37):
the land of the brave. Well, try having your viewpoints
expressed about alternative lifestyles in Egypt or Saudi Arabia. Watch
what happens to those viewpoints and those other countries. It's
incredible what's happening. And one of the speakers at the
Divinity School at Harvard spoke of seventy seven years of

(42:57):
Israeli genocide and know where to hide from the genocide
of Israel just the opposite. The Jews are the ones
who've been the victim of genocide. They're the ones trying
to have a peaceful Middle East. They're the ones that
cause the desert to flower. They're the ones that allow
a multicultural, multi religious societies in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem
and most of Israel. They wan't live in peace. And

(43:21):
it's unbelievable and it's the way things are. Let's go
back to the calls and set up tonight rest of
tonight's peak show at eleven thirty tonight, in about a
half an hour or so, I have doctor Mark Scalson.
We'll be here to talk about he's got a book out.
You know, I call myself a great American. There's one
the great American. The great American was Benjamin Franklin, and

(43:45):
doctor Marcus Schalsen is an eighth generation descendant of Benjamin Franklin.
I want to ask what Benjamin Franklin would think about
our deficits are debt and about foreign terrorism. Also, later on,
as the Great Thane Rosenbaum, about who's funding the protests
on college campuses in favor of hamas. So many college
campuses today are training grounds for Madrasas against Jews and

(44:10):
against Western civilization. And also later on it's the great
John Lott about arming one selves in these difficult times.
And let's go to uh, We'll go to Youngstown, Ohio.
The uh he's out, Alice, how correct?

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Alice? Al go ahead?

Speaker 12 (44:28):
Okay, how you doing?

Speaker 7 (44:29):
Bill?

Speaker 12 (44:30):
I got a question for you. How in the world
did country ever gets so many traders in charge of
our government, our colleges and everything else like that that
have actually turned the heel against the founding fathers and
the constitution and everything we took for. And as far
as that police chief out there in Boulder, Colorado, right,
and now I'm about I'm a Baptist preacher, and I'm

(44:50):
saying this is a preacher too. They are the FBI
ot to arrest that guy out there, that police chief,
for helping terrorism and everything. Because when he turns like
he's kissing their feet, you know, they're they're bombing people,
they're they're burning people up, they're killing people. And then
when the guy said he can't call that an act.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
We can't.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
We can't figure this thing out with the guy. We
can't figure this out. After he was shouting free Palestine,
free Palestine, he burned Jews, and he said that that
he wanted to kill more Jews, and he used to
improvise flamethrower and he killed Jews or tried to kill Jews,
set them on fire. And the police chief of police,
chief of Bolder can't figure this thing out.

Speaker 12 (45:34):
I mean, well, but about the Jewish people. In Genesis
twelve two, God tells Abraham, I will bless them that
bless thee, and curse them that curse thee. And then
see and the old show all the nations of the
world be blessed. Now that means if America turns their
heel against the Jewish people, they're going to receive a
curse from God for it. You know, the God, the

(45:55):
God put.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
The Jews here.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
They're his people.

Speaker 12 (45:58):
If if they do wrong, He's gonna punish them. It's
not our place to persecute and murder him and everything
else like that. And you know that when Saddam Hussein
was not Saddam Hussein, but Arapat was here. He was
a chief terrorist of them all. And he said, first
we kill all the Saturday people, and then we kill
all the Sunday people, and then so that right there

(46:19):
he's showing, first, we kill all the Jews, no matter what,
if they do anything against us yor not. We kill
all the Jews arriving men of the sea. And then
we kill all the Christians, all the Sunday people is
all the Christians. And the dumbest thing in the world
is to see people in Christian America waving around pro
Hamas terrorist flags, because if they helped Thomas kill all

(46:40):
the Jews, then Hamas would turn around and kill them.
And that's I mean, there's nobody dumber than a college
student in America today waving around pro Palestine flags because
the Jews were there way before the Palestinians were there.
In fact, when Israel returned to Israel in nineteen forty
eight Canaan, it looked like a corrupt goat pasture with

(47:03):
a few nomad tribes going through there. And when the
surrounding countries found out that Jews were coming back to Israel,
they pushed the refuge the people in their countries. They
pushed the lowest class into those into Israel from the
surrounding countries and ordered them to go stay there and
be a stone in the shoe of the Jewish people

(47:24):
coming back there. Palestine was never an Arab state, never ever.
In fact, it was curved black in nineteen thirteen b C.
That God told Abraham to go to the land that
we call Israel today, that he was given it to
him and that his seat forever. And you know, this
country needs to get some backbone. And the whole Democrat

(47:46):
Party is like an anti christ, anti America group of
people that are doing everything they can every day to
destroy this country and give it over to its enemies.
But what these idiots don't realize is even if they
were successful in doing that, then those very enemies that
they're helping overthrow America to are going to turn on them.

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That's what ever Fat said. First we kill the Jews,
and then they're going to kill everybody that helps them
kill the Jews, all the Americans, Christians and everybody else.
So we need to get some backbone. We need to
turn to God, get right with God as the country,
and support the Jews if we want God's blessing.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
That's all I got to I'll say this that the
Balder police chief said it would be irresponsible to call
this a target of act of terror number one.

Speaker 12 (48:34):
Everything that they ever made him a police chief in
a police place to make it responsible.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I don't want him investigating anything nothing.

Speaker 12 (48:41):
No, you know, if that terrorist did that to his
family or any of his relatives, he wouldn't be kissing
the guy's feet. Now, I hope he wouldn't be anyway.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Well, the fact that the chief's name is Stephen redfirm.
He refused to call it an act of terrorism, claiming
it would be irresponsible because he's terriorily to speculate.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
On a motive.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Number one, attack Jewish people. Number two, it was a
pro Israel, a little bit of a rally. Number three.
His name is Mohammed Solomon. Number four, he's here illegally.
Number five. He burned Jews. But he can't figure it out.
And he's saying free Palestine. Free Palestine's taking the place
of hol Hitler. It used to be hol Hitler, now
it's free Palestine. I'm thinking if Chief Redfern can't figure

(49:25):
that out, they should get a different police chief.

Speaker 12 (49:28):
Make it that police chiefs, and that the terrorism on
the American people right there.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Well, all right, thanks for your call, reverend, thank you,
let's continue. I hope he changes his opinion at some point.
There's a few clues there Sherlock figure that one out. Nonetheless,
let's continue and the line becomes available at eight sixty
six six four seven seven three three seven. And you know,
if there were thousands and thousands of college students who

(49:57):
have no right to be in college, it's a privileged
the university. It's even more of a privilege to be
a foreign student. There's no right to be here. You
don't have a right to go to Harvard, or right
to go to UCLA, or right to go to University
of Texas. By the way, Austin, Texas is the San
Francisco of Texas. That's a different story. You have no
right to be a student in a particular place. I

(50:17):
can only imagine if on college campuses today there was
large factions of the ku Klux Klan running around using
the N word, how long they'd be a student at Harvard.
It wouldn't last at all. They'd be gone. You have
no right to be a student. And hate speech, by
the way, is protected by the First Amendment, but that
kind of behavior, you'll be expelled. You can say those things,

(50:38):
but there's consequences and so but somehow the model now
Free Palestine is taking the place of Hal Hitler and
I don't get it. I don't understand that my boss
is a Jewish carpenter and the Jewish people are special,
and what they've done with the desert in the Middle
East is truly incredible and unbelieve a multi dimensional, multi

(51:02):
religious Western style democracy in which is Islamist and Muslims
are in the Kanessean about a quarter of the Kanessean
are Muslims. They're Muslims and Islamists who are judges. You
get elected, you do your job, pay your taxes and
move on. But that's not the case. And any other

(51:24):
Muslim Arab country in which Jews have been ordered out
and the Christians, by the way, are being beheaded and
killed in Syria and many Islamic countries in Africa, and
there's little or no publicity for that is there doesn't
fit the media narrative, so it's not even talked about.
And CNN did not want to call it a terror attack.

(51:46):
It did not sit well with CNN when the FBI
called it a terror attack, because the police chief said
it's irresponsible to call it an attack on a terror
attack or a hate crime, which obviously it didn't take
a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on here.
Let's continue. We got many calls, let's get to them.

(52:07):
We'll ant call will be from Nashville, and then from Cincinnati, Ohio,
twenty minutes after the hour. Get ready for Monday, Tuesday,
Wednesday's going to be wild. I can only imagine the
response of Vladimir Putin to what the successful raid on
five different Russian Air Force bases is going to be
the next few days. I can't conceive of it, and
I just wish well to the Ukrainian people who are

(52:29):
fighting bravely against insurmountable odds. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday.
Let's continue now, A call from Nashville and David and Nashville, Tennessee.
Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
David, how are you.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
I'm doing fantastic. I was going to try to make
three points and one time really a point. It's a
great joke, a Baptist joke. So I'm calling from Nashville. Yes,
the Bible Belt of Christianity.

Speaker 5 (53:05):
I love.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I've been there twice. I love Nashville.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
So he's going with that thing. I'm not sure where
I wanted to go. I have no idea, but nonetheless,
we're not talking about Baptis having sex standing up, whatever
that is. I don't want to hear it. I don't
want to hear the punch line. One last thing is
that CNN once again embarrassed itself. They put on disgraced

(53:31):
FBI director Andrew McCabe and also another female I forget
her name, Juliet sum or other, in which they questioned
whether or not it was wise for the FBI to
call it quickly an active terror. Well, the terror attack

(53:51):
was he was the terrorists shouted anti Israeli rhetoric. He
yelled free Palestine, Free Palestine, as he tries to try
to burn Jews alive. Five are fighting for their lives.
Six are fighting for their lives. His name is Mohammed Solomon.
He's from Egypt. But a CNN says, let's not jump

(54:13):
to any conclusions, and uh, of course, using uh molotov
cocktails and improvised blow torches and flamethrowers is evidence of
something I think that might border on terrorism and night speech,
but not according to guess what CNN Deputy Director Andrew

(54:36):
McCabe is questioning whether or not a Palestinian burns people
alive in Colorado while shouting en Zionist, and CNN is
currently having a meltdown over the FBI labeling labeling in
in active terrorism. What an NBC News is calling them
Gaza hostiage awareness marchers, that those who were burned victims

(55:01):
of personal arson. NBC News says their Gaza hostage awareness marchers,
I eat Jews being burned. And the media has a
hard time saying, now, let's not rush to a conclusion here, unbelievable.
Let's continue in a few minutes. Here we have doctor
Mark Skalson's gonna join us. He's written a book I

(55:23):
call myself a great American. His great great great great
great grandfather was Benjamin Franklin, who is a book out,
The Greatest American. And later on is Thane Rosenbaum, who
has some ideas about what's happened to our major college
campuses that want to educate Chinese kids and those with
Hamas sympathies, but not American kids. For every ford and

(55:47):
student into a so called elite university, an American kid
is not getting in. And also leadter on is John Lott,
the great John Lott, to talk about these data which
seems to indicate that as an American, if you arm yourself,
armed Americans rightfully carrying guns on the Second Amendment, guess
what break up more acts of terror than actual police

(56:08):
who come maybe five or ten minutes later. So those
that's that's coming up tonight. But I've said to you,
you and I think agreed the last few Sunday nights,
I just I send something bad is going to happen.
Good stuff's going on. The economy is in good shape. Employment,
hiring is up, real wages are up, Inflation is down,

(56:29):
and according to Speaker of the House Michael Mike Johnson,
the so called medicaid cuts come at the expense of
those who should not be on medicaid in the first place.
One point four million are illegals on medicaid using false
ID information. They should not be on medicaid at all.
It's got those issues percolating and more. But I hope

(56:49):
the the situation in Ukraine calms down. A very successful
attack by Vladimir by Zelensky on five Russian Air Force
bases taking taking out they claim thirty percent of the
air force of the of the Russian Air Force. Several
hours ago we'll see what comes of that in the

(57:11):
day said, stay tuned for more. The line becomes available
eight sixty six six four seven seven three three seven,
Stay tuned for more.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
CNN Get a life.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you and all great
Americans every sun. You know, Bill Cunningham, the Great American.

(57:45):
Of course, we're going to celebrate a little bit of
time here at about the year or so, the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this greatest country. Despite all
the problems, despite all the debt, despite all the terrorism
taking place like in and around Colorado, spread despite all
the difficulties in the world, I'd rather have these problems
in any of the problems other countries have had. And

(58:07):
the founding of this republic was largely occasioned by brilliant
Americans who came together with an idea that shining city
on the hill, and I think largely has been met.
Of course, the greatest of those Americans was Benjamin Franklin.
Jonan you and I now is one of his descendants.
Doctor Mark Skalson has written the book The Greatest American.

(58:27):
I call myself by mistake, a great American. Compared to
Benjamin Franklin the greatest American But doctor Mark Skalson a
direct descendant of Benjamin Franklin. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
And doctor, first of all, tell me, uh, maybe a
factor two you spell out of your life wife and
your wife also studying about Benjamin Franklin because of your

(58:48):
blood lineage. But what was one or two facts you
were a bit surprised concerning? Then we're going to talk
about the national debt, political division, executive overreach. But in
all your research, what's a couple of things surprised you
about your ancestor?

Speaker 9 (59:03):
Well, I'll tell you.

Speaker 13 (59:04):
One of the things that I did as a direct
descendant of the grand old Man was that I completed
his autobiography. I did this back in the three hundredth
anniversary of his birth, so that was back in twenty
two thousand and six, and I discovered a number of

(59:24):
things that I didn't know before. One is that he
had only one illegitimate child. Now, a lot of people
think that he was a womanizer and constantly having sex
with who knows how many women, and I think I kind.

Speaker 9 (59:40):
Of dispelled that notion.

Speaker 13 (59:42):
The problem was that his lone son, William, also had
an illegitimate child, and his son had an illegitimate child.
So were the three generations of illegitimate children in the
Franklin line, And so I think there's that's where that
rumor got started. He also has been criticized for abandoning

(01:00:06):
his wife when he went to London as a London
agent seventeen fifty seven. But what really happened was his
wife had an extreme aversion to going out on the
waters on these ships that would take a month to
get to Europe.

Speaker 9 (01:00:24):
And the fact is that.

Speaker 13 (01:00:26):
It's kind of like those who are afraid to get
on airplanes these days. So her version was so strong
that they did kind of become a strange to some extent.
I mean, they exchanged letters and so forth. But that
was one of the things I discovered. The second thing
I discovered which really surprised me, he was known as

(01:00:47):
a heretic from a religious point of view.

Speaker 9 (01:00:50):
He was not a church goer, and he was considered
what we'd.

Speaker 13 (01:00:54):
Call a dist you know, where you God winds up
the clock and just let's says run and doesn't really interfere. However,
at the end of his life he became a believing theorist, theist.

Speaker 9 (01:01:07):
That is, he believed that God intervened.

Speaker 13 (01:01:10):
In the affairs of men so that the American, the
Americans would win the deck the independence from Britain.

Speaker 9 (01:01:19):
So he made changes in his life.

Speaker 13 (01:01:23):
He used to own slaves, and then he became the
president of the first Pennsylvania Society to abolish slavery, so
he became an abolitionist at the end of his life.
So there's a lot of things where he changed his mind.
So I've given you several examples of how he developed.

(01:01:44):
His mind changed in so many ways. I'll give you
one other example.

Speaker 9 (01:01:50):
In the beginning, when he was a.

Speaker 13 (01:01:53):
Printer in Philadelphia in the seventeen thirties, he wrote a
pamphlet boarding the idea that we should print money, we
should have issued money, and the printing of the money
would help stimulate commerce. So he was kind of an
inflationist in his early years, and he actually got the

(01:02:16):
job to print the money. So he's kind of a
bit of a crony capitalist back then. But then in
the American Revolution, he saw the dangers of printing too
much money and he became an anti inflationist and did
not like, you know, not as worth continental.

Speaker 9 (01:02:37):
Back in those days.

Speaker 13 (01:02:38):
So there's a lot of things that really surprised me
about Franklin'm glad you brought up that question on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
The national debt.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Your forbear said, quote, A virtuous and industrious people may
be cheaply governed, directly challenging today's fiscal irresponsibility. Despite the
efforts of Donald Trump and the Republican a cutback on
federal spending. In reality, I'm not talking about the media coverage.
In reality, government spending's going up under Donald Trump, and

(01:03:09):
we're going to continue to borrow two trillion dollars a
year as far as the eye can see. What would
your ancestor, Benjamin Franklin say about the United States of
America that owns owes at this point thirty seven trillion dollars.
I'm not sure you could imagine what a trillion was. Well,
each trillion is a thousand billion billions, So we're talking

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some serious money, and by the time the Trumpster gets done,
we're gonna owe forty five trillion dollars. What would he
say about a national debt currently a thirty seven trillion
on its way to fifty trillion dollars? What would Benjamin
Franklin say about that?

Speaker 13 (01:03:44):
Well, he actually hoped. She said, you know, I lived
at the wrong time of my life. I would have
preferred to have lived two or three centuries later, because
then I would be able to witness all the wonderful
advances that America would enjoy. And he was a big technologist,
you know, he was a scientist, He was an inventor.

(01:04:05):
So he would be pleased, of course, with the high
standard of living, the new technologies.

Speaker 9 (01:04:11):
He would be using a cell.

Speaker 13 (01:04:12):
Phone, he'd be using the internet, he'd be texting, he'd
be doing all of these things. But he would be
appalled by the size and scope of government, the national debt.

Speaker 9 (01:04:24):
He said, one of the things that we need to
do is to.

Speaker 13 (01:04:28):
Make sure that we take care of our debt and reduce,
if not eliminated. He was not a big fan of
open ended borrowing and so forth.

Speaker 9 (01:04:40):
Now he was. He did defend Alexander.

Speaker 13 (01:04:44):
Hamilton and the issuing of debt to cover the expenses
of the states.

Speaker 9 (01:04:53):
You know, they issued.

Speaker 13 (01:04:54):
This federal debt that included all the state debts. It
was very controversy at the time, but turned out to
be very successful. It was over subscribed six to one,
and within a generation the national debt was paid for
with the sinking fund. This was Hamilton's idea, and Franklin

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was a big fan of a sinking fund.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
That is, you have the.

Speaker 13 (01:05:22):
The tariffs and the other forms of fees to pay
off the debt. He was a big fan of paying
off your debt. And he was also a big fan
of you know, he lived during very difficult times. You
had depressions, you had bank crisis, you had inflation, you
had war.

Speaker 9 (01:05:41):
He lived through all of that and he died a
wealthy man.

Speaker 13 (01:05:45):
Why because during the good years he always kept within
his expenses, he kept reducing his debt. He had rental properties,
he had bank accounts in three countries. He had gold
and silver, so he was he had a well diversified portfolio,

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and he's always living within his means. And he believed
government should be the same. He said, there's great revenue
in economy. There's much revenue in economy, and no revenue
is sufficient without economy. So I applaud daw doge that
Elon Musk was involved in and the President encouraged.

Speaker 9 (01:06:31):
But unfortunately it's turned out to be a bit of
a dad government.

Speaker 13 (01:06:35):
They found they weren't They wanted to reduce government spending
by two trillion dollars, and they ended up with half
a trade in or something.

Speaker 9 (01:06:45):
If they're able to make any changes, I mean, I mus.

Speaker 13 (01:06:49):
Left discourage, very discouraged by the entrence nature of governments,
kind of like unions. Once they get control of things,
it's really hard to break the unions.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
And I wouldn't note he's the only president on a
bill at one hundred dollars bill him, I call him
Benji's Nonetheless, he lived a rifle o at age of
eighty four at two things I would have changed in
the Constitution if you can go back in time to
your great great, great great great great grandfather and tell
him to put in the constitution no annual deficit financially

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for the government unless approved by two thirds House, two
thirds of the Senate, and term limits for the Congress,
which will never happen. I think Benjamin Franklin would have
loved those amendments. How active was he in seventeen eighty seven,
He was. He died a couple of years later. Declaration
of Independence. He was involved, he was involved in the
Constitutional Convention. I'm not sure how much contributions he had

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in seventeen eighty seven, seventeen eighty eight. But would he
agree with was there any debate about the notion to
to say that every year that the nation cannot borrow
without two thirds of the House, two thirds of the
Senate for war or something like that some national catastrophe.
Right now, we're not in a national catastrophe, and we
borrow six billion dollars every day, a brand new money,

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which adds up to about two trillion dollars a year.
And he thought about putting those things in the Constitution.

Speaker 13 (01:08:17):
Well at the end of the Constitution convention. And he
was involved because he was a diplomat, of course, ken
Burns says he's America's greatest diplomat, and I think that's correct.
And he was able to finance. He was the one
who was the primary fundraiser getting the French to support

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the American Revolution. Then when he came home after the war,
he was very much involved in Philadelphia with the Constitutional Convention,
and he was a compromiser and one of the ones
that he supported was the Connecticut compromise where the Senate
was representing the states and the House representing the people

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direct election. So he helped engineer that compromise, and at
the end he said, listen, the Constitution isn't perfect.

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
We all know that. It's very difficult.

Speaker 13 (01:09:13):
And you put gathered together men of different interests and
means and so on, the South and the North, and
the slave issues and all of these things that had
had to deal with in the Constitution. So he realized
that this was as he told the lady at the
end of the convention, what kind of government do we have? Well,

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we have a republic if you can keep it. And
what he meant by that was representative government.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
And they did agree to add the Bill of Rights,
which I think was important.

Speaker 9 (01:09:44):
But you know, Article one, Article one.

Speaker 13 (01:09:47):
Section eight of the Constitution identifies what the purposes are
of Congress, and of course tax the ability to tack
to impose tariffs to the spending bills and so forth.
That was what Congress could do. And then the other

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sections like nine and ten were limits on the Constitution
and limits on Congress, and one of them was that
there would be no tariffs between states. So you had
this huge free trade zone that developed, which.

Speaker 9 (01:10:27):
Was hugely successful. So that was very good.

Speaker 13 (01:10:30):
But no, there was no consideration of limits on taxation
and limits on.

Speaker 9 (01:10:39):
Spending and so forth. Those you know, the limit was,
of course, you.

Speaker 13 (01:10:44):
Needed two thirds to pass Congress. You had not only
pass both houses, but also the president's veto. You had
to had all of those factors at work for the
balance of power between the executive, even the.

Speaker 9 (01:11:00):
Judicial and the legislature. So he thought that was sufficient.

Speaker 13 (01:11:05):
So he would he would probably favor some of the
limitations you're talking about today, because.

Speaker 9 (01:11:11):
Wanted chief government.

Speaker 13 (01:11:13):
Like you say, virtuous, industrious people may be chiefly governed.

Speaker 9 (01:11:17):
And do we have chief government today?

Speaker 13 (01:11:19):
I think you're a Democrat or Republican you would say, no,
we don't have chief government.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
All right, we have about minute remaining, Doctor Mark Schelson,
who's a descendant of Benjamin Franklin. If Benjamin Franklin's in
heaven above and I assume he is looking down, how
would he view his handiwork? With the two hundred and
fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence next July July fourth,
twenty twenty six, have about minute remaining? How would he
look down upon this great country? Would he be proud?

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Would it be concerned?

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
What would he be?

Speaker 9 (01:11:49):
I think it would be both.

Speaker 13 (01:11:51):
He thought America would become a great and happy nation.
He saw America as the promised land. He was critical
of thekers, the croakers, the people who constantly complained and
looked at only the negatives that are happening in the
United States. He would recognize the goodness, basic goodness of people,

(01:12:13):
their honesty and integrity, and look, American exceptionalism is still
alive and well so in my book called the Greatest American,
the Greatest American. Frankly, and by the way, my book
is not just a typical biography. I go there's eighty
chapters and they each one go into different views and
how they would apply today. So I encourage people to

(01:12:36):
get a copy of this book. It's a very unique book.
It's not your typical from beginning to end story, but
by various topics, including a chapter on his sex life,
which I think would be a very popular chapter.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Well, he was, among other things, he was a millionaire.
He was a writer, he was a scientist, he was
an inventor, he was a statesman, he was a diplomat,
he was a printer, he was a publisher who was
a philosopher, and he was the most respected of the
founding fathers by the other founding Fathers.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
It was always what would Benjamin Franklin say? What is he?

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
He would have been the president if he was born
maybe thirty years later, but by a time George Washington
took over, he was like eighty two eighty three years old,
which in today's terms might be about one hundred and ten.
But doctor Mark Skalson, we got to run. The book
is the greatest American. It is everywhere, and thank God
we've had men like Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton,

(01:13:35):
both Adams and Samuel Adams had them at Locke at
the right time. God sent the right men to start
this nation on the course. And it's the Republic if
we can keep it. And doctor Marcus Scoutson, once again,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. From one
Great American to the greatest American Benjamin Franklin, Doctor Scoutson,
thanks for coming on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Thank you very much, Thank you, thank you, and be free,
God bless America.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Let's continue with more. The greatest American Benjamin Franklin and
his sex life was historical, which you have to get
to the book to understand. But let's continue with more.
Bill Cunningham, the great American. And by the way, there's
more information coming out on the terrible events in Boulder, Colorado.
It was an Egyptian national who came into the country

(01:14:19):
about three about three years ago and overstayed his visa
by two and a half years, shouting Free Palestine as
he set on fire innocent men and women in Boulder,
Colorado several hours ago. Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.

(01:14:42):
Billy Cunningham, one can only imagine put me in charge
at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia, and the two things
you have to add would be one, there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Can be no yearly annual.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Deficit unless approved by two thirds now two thirds of
the Senate, because you can't try politicians not to act
like politicians, and everyone to cut anything. And wanted to
increase spending on everything. And it's said that I had
great hopes that with Donald Trump and the White House
and so called conservatives and House in the Senate, we

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quit borrowing two trillion dollars every year. It's coming down
to about one hundred and forty billion and a year.
By the time they get done increasing spending on the military,
that's going to be a drop in the bucket. So
no matter what else happens during the four years of
Donald Trump's second term, we're going to borrow about eight
trillion dollars more, getting the national cumulat national debt up

(01:15:38):
to forty five trillion dollars, which shall we say, is
more than unsustainable.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Well, let's continue with more. Coming up next.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
As an expert on the Middle East and the moss
was going on in the campuses, Dane Rosenbaum is going
to be here terrible events in Boulder several hours ago
in which an improvised flamethrower was used to set on
fire six people between The age is about sixty seven
and eighty eight. So let's continue with more. Bill cunning
under Great America with you every Sunday.

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Excellence, The one and only Bill cunninghad.

Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
Bill Cunningham the Great American of course day by day
by day it appears according to the Trump administration, there's
some sort of idea that the MOO laws, the hate
filled leaders of Iran who demand the killing of Jews
and Westerners wherever they might be located, somehow we're going
to have a deal with them, and somehow the leaders

(01:17:21):
of Iran are going to say, Okay, you can inspect
all of our nuclear facilities. I don't believe it's going
to happen. I think justice delayed will be justice denied.
But a week or two ago, of course, the DC
murders of the Darling couple happened outside the Israeli embassy,
and it was a cesspool that developed on college campuses.
The last a year or two, I think the anti

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Semitism at Columbia and at Harvard and Yale and many
college campuses marching around repeatedly. We have a Jewish congressman
in my part of the world here named Greg Lansman,
who's a Democrat, but nonetheless he cannot appear in public
without being encircled by how moss channing radicals. And to
my way of thinking, uh, from the from the from

(01:18:01):
the river to the sea, and uh, you know, Palestine
must be free is the new Hyle Hitler expressed on
college campuses, and this metastasizing of violence must be stopped.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
Fine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Rosenbaum is a.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Distinguished University Professor at Toro University's the CBS News Radio
Analysts written on the subject quite often, and once again,
uh Thane Rosenbaum, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. How
predictive in your opinion thing was the last several months
or a year or two of the disgusting behavior in
college campuses by how mass supporters who burn gays alive

(01:18:38):
and treat women like chattel slaves. And I wish some
of the protesters would go over there and find out
how women are treated in Syria or Lebanon or Jordan
and find out the truth. But uh uh the DC
shooter was shouting, uh, free free Palestine. How does the
campus rhetoric cause deadly consequences all across the world and

(01:19:00):
tipically in Washington, DC?

Speaker 14 (01:19:03):
Well, Bill, first, thank you for having me on your show.

Speaker 10 (01:19:05):
It's a great show, and you're a great voice. You know,
we simply normalized anti commatism. If you scream stuff loud
enough and you drown everyone else out, and you're ignorant,
and you don't read anything, and you haven't traveled, and
you don't know your history, and you're.

Speaker 14 (01:19:22):
Just running around like a stooge screaming.

Speaker 10 (01:19:26):
You know, we're globalizing into fouda bill is if I
said to you, I was opposed to say, you know,
racial preference in the United States, and the way I
wanted to.

Speaker 14 (01:19:38):
Express myself is to run around screaming lynch blacks, lynch blacks,
lynch blacks.

Speaker 10 (01:19:43):
I want to scream that I have a free speech
right to say that, and that's the way I want
to express myself about that political idea right. But I
don't mean lynch blacks. I just want to say lynch blacks,
and I want you to believe that. I think it
means something else. It's about a policy difference. Globalize Antipada

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means exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:20:05):
What it means.

Speaker 14 (01:20:06):
Take the killing of Jews in the Intafada.

Speaker 10 (01:20:09):
In Israel and globalize it wherever you find them kill them.
So the fact that university presidents that all we believe
in academic freedom, we believe in free speech, I always say, really,
like lynch blacks, you'd be cool with that?

Speaker 14 (01:20:24):
How long would anyone last on American campus literally literally.

Speaker 10 (01:20:28):
Last I think they would be shot to scream something
like that and to be claiming a First Amendment right.
And you're right, from the river to the sea talestein Monty, free,
free of what, free of Jews, because that's what's there.

Speaker 14 (01:20:42):
Between the river and the sea Jews.

Speaker 10 (01:20:43):
So the language that are screamed by inflements, they know
exactly what it means. The imbeciles on campus probably don't
or do. And I will say that America has been
insulated this.

Speaker 14 (01:20:56):
So when you said, God, I wish these people would go.

Speaker 10 (01:20:58):
To Riot or Raman or by route or places and
check it out.

Speaker 14 (01:21:02):
See what Tehran is like, and see what.

Speaker 10 (01:21:05):
It's like for queers, for Palestine, what it would look
like for homosexual or for women who wanted to drive
a car by herself, or wanted to become educated.

Speaker 14 (01:21:15):
You know, in many of.

Speaker 10 (01:21:16):
The Islement societies, two thirds of the women are literate.

Speaker 14 (01:21:19):
They're not taught to read. Right, this is on university campuses.

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
You're cheering for that.

Speaker 10 (01:21:25):
Let me say this, Bill, and I let me just
mention my new book, Beyond Proportionality, Israel's just.

Speaker 14 (01:21:32):
War in Gaza.

Speaker 10 (01:21:34):
It is a legal and moral defense of Israel's war
in Gaza, and it's filled with cultural references, biblical references,
and naturally the international laws, legal conventions, the laws.

Speaker 14 (01:21:51):
Of armed conflict.

Speaker 10 (01:21:51):
It takes your right through it if you read it
calmly instead of people screaming the word genocide at you.
Just read my book over weekend and you go, a right,
I got everything I need to know.

Speaker 14 (01:22:01):
I know exactly what's going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
I tell you the one little factoid which I think
is illustrative of the lack of understanding when these college
campuses and other city protests occur. About two thirds of
those doing it are white, educated females who need some
calls greater than themselves. And I would point out that
ninety five percent of the females in Egypt, which is
perceived to be kind of an advanced Islamic society Egypt,

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have sexual mutilation of their private parts clittorial extraction. That's
ninety five percent of the females when they have their
first period are sexually mutilated.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
In the name of Islam.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Now, I'd like an educated white female at Columbia or
Harvard or Yale, tell me how you want to advocate
for that society that we're going to have c literal
extraction when you have your first period. And most of
the Islamic world, women have no rights that a man
has to follow. In fact, they have less than human rights.
And many Islamic societies in Africa, when the girl reaches

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the age eight nine or ten, the father sells the
female child to someone else for profit. And I want
to know how that fits into the idea of Columbia
and Harvard and Yale and the educated white females. How
does that fit in saying to their way of thinking.

Speaker 14 (01:23:17):
Well, you only ask that though, and you said that so.

Speaker 10 (01:23:19):
Well, if you told someone that you were on a
university campus, and you just told someone that six thousand people,
four thousand terrorists, two thousand civilians ran across another nation
and went to a music festival filled with only college

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age kids who were peace loving knows that knows, piercings
and tattoos. They had just spent the night listening to music.

Speaker 14 (01:23:49):
They were not religious fanatics. They were people listening to rock.

Speaker 10 (01:23:53):
Music right their age, their age, and that the girls
were gang raped in front of their boyfriends and friends,
and then machine gun fire was shot into their vaginas
and many of their breasts were removed by knives, and
babies from local kiboutin from villages were thrown into ovens

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right and other people were beheaded.

Speaker 14 (01:24:16):
If you told someone.

Speaker 10 (01:24:18):
That, and you told it to people on campus, they
would go nuts, say would go what this.

Speaker 14 (01:24:22):
Happened to people that were in a rock concert.

Speaker 10 (01:24:25):
We need to get over there and make our voices
heard in northern Egypt and demand to see hamas leaders.
Everyone needs to be punished. Who was responsible for that?
So how that switch got flipped? If you told them
on Wait a minute, you need to say, these.

Speaker 14 (01:24:39):
Were people that looked like you.

Speaker 10 (01:24:41):
Listened to the same music like you, had the same
nose piercings like you, and they were gang race and
you're cheering for the people who did that. You're on
campus cheering for barbarians, for people that burned children, that
gang rape girls. Bill are you you must be sitting right.
People don't realize some of those girls that have been

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gang raped when they were done and killed, their.

Speaker 14 (01:25:07):
Corpses was gang raped.

Speaker 10 (01:25:09):
There are video of this, and there's testimonies from the
people that perpetrated the crimes. After she was killed, we
raped her again, there is only one word for that, barbarians.
So how could anyone on campus say, by any means necessary, really, really,
any means necessary, firing machine guns into girls that have

(01:25:31):
just been raped. So yes, it's utter madness. You're dealing
a part of the world where there are no human rights,
women's rights, gay rights, people get killed, you know, under
Islamic societies for not believing in the Islam apostates for anything, sitting.

Speaker 14 (01:25:50):
In a car with a man and listening to music,
that's it.

Speaker 10 (01:25:54):
Sixty five sixty five lashings. They believe in beheadings, dismemberments.
There's only one people on this planet bill that behead
that's get one people Islamists.

Speaker 14 (01:26:08):
They love it, they enjoy it, and they do it.

Speaker 10 (01:26:11):
And yet we're cheering on the beheaders. And that's what
shows you the kind of real moral inversion that.

Speaker 14 (01:26:18):
Has taken place in this country.

Speaker 10 (01:26:20):
And it's what I point out a lot in my
book Beyond Proportionality, that if you read it, you go,
wait a minute, we're cheering on this side. One side
is fighting according to the laws of the war. The
other side is ignoring all the laws of war, and
we're cheering them on. And we're blaming the side fighting
in self defense for committing genocide.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Well, it's had a couple other issues. When I spent
my time in Israel about a year and a half ago,
I saw mosques in Israel, I saw synagogues a lot.
I saw gay rights flags flying in Israel. In Tel Aviv,
I saw Catholic churches. I saw a multicultural, Western style
democracy in which Muslims are voted into the Kanesset. I

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saw a Western style democracy. On the other side, I
see barbarism. Now on another issue, the other day, the
Palestinian ambassador to the U N and I have sympathy
for the gods and children being starved to death because
of the behavior of Hamas.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Hamas has lost the war.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Why don't they lay down their arms and say you
know what, we lost you one, here are the hostages.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
We want peace. Why does an Amas do that?

Speaker 10 (01:27:35):
Because they want dead Jews. Their charter talks only about
dead Jews. They don't want Jews neighbors, and they don't
want Jews in the Middle East. And they want you
dead wherever they find them, which is why you saw
the couple that was killed.

Speaker 14 (01:27:48):
Outside the Jewish Museum in d C.

Speaker 10 (01:27:52):
But let me just say Bill, people misread this very often.
The man, the young man was Christian, he was a Zionist,
and yeah he worked for the Israeli Embassy. But just
like Bill Cunningham as a Zionist, he's not Jewish. That
could have been you walking out of that.

Speaker 14 (01:28:10):
They didn't care.

Speaker 10 (01:28:11):
They just assumed if you're walking out of the Jewish museum,
you must be a Jew and be killed. But let's
remember the girl was a practicing Jew. The guy was
a practicing Christian who worked for the Israeli embassy. Because
Israel is a pluralistic society where Christians work, Arabs work,
the Druids work, everyone has full civil rights. And by

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the way, when you said rock concerts, you know Israel
in Tel Aviv is a major tour stop for every
global concert around the world. Right, if you're appearing in
la or in New York in a stadium, you're going
to be an.

Speaker 14 (01:28:48):
Israelis on the tour.

Speaker 10 (01:28:49):
There's not one Arab city that you would travel to.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Not one.

Speaker 10 (01:28:54):
No, there's never the rolling Stones that have never been
in Riyad, or in Beirut or in Aman.

Speaker 14 (01:29:01):
No, they've never been in Tehran. And so that again
like just to give you a sense of.

Speaker 10 (01:29:06):
What's the difference between a liberal, pluralistic society and a
theocratic society. The other thing is what you just said about.
You know, you see mosques, you see churches. Hamas and
the Palestinian authority are very clear, should there ever be
a Palestinian state, no Jews will be allowed to live here.

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Why would anyone be cheering on a country, a potential
country that's telling you at the outset right that we
will not be pluralistic. We don't want we know, we
don't want Christians because Christian Coptics in Egypt are being killed.
You know beth Lehem, right, the birthplace of Jesus Bill
used to be a Christian city until the Palestinian authority

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took it over.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Now I can't be, it can't be.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Lastly, the funding that the mechanisms, these are useful idiots
marching around and it's going to get worse, not better
unless we stop it. That who's funding the anti Israeli
hatred on American campuses in American cities. We here in Cincinnati,
we have a large more or less inner city park
called Washington Park. And whenever the call goes out to

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protests Israel. There's five or six hundred useful idiots that
show up and they march around, scream, holler, and shout.
Who's funding many of these protests?

Speaker 14 (01:30:27):
Cutter Cutter.

Speaker 10 (01:30:28):
We now know this is why all the donors from alumni,
alumni donors for Harvard and other Ivy league like ten
and even NYU.

Speaker 14 (01:30:39):
What we in Colombia.

Speaker 10 (01:30:40):
We now know that the reason they the universities have
made no changes, and in fact Harvard is filing a
lawsuit to maintain its anti Jewish environment is because they're
getting nine billion dollars from Cutter. So when Bill Ackman
and other guys like Mark Row and New York in
Bethman Community, or Robert Kraft who owns the New England Patriots,

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who withheld nine.

Speaker 14 (01:31:06):
One hundred million dollars from Colombia, they're saying, keep your money.

Speaker 10 (01:31:10):
We're getting nine billion from Cutter. Good luck to you
judes who give us money. We could care less about you.

Speaker 9 (01:31:16):
On campus.

Speaker 5 (01:31:17):
We hate you.

Speaker 11 (01:31:18):
That's what we do.

Speaker 10 (01:31:19):
We hate Israel, we hate America, we hate white people,
we hate the West. This is what we teach and
this is how we roll, and this is.

Speaker 14 (01:31:27):
How we want to continue to roll. We don't want anyone.

Speaker 10 (01:31:30):
To stop us, Bill, who is President Trump to And
then on top of our fifty four billion dollar environment,
we want American taxpayers to subsidize our anti American, anti
West thinking. We really want you to pay us the privilege.

Speaker 14 (01:31:46):
I'm hating you hate paying, and we want to and
keep paying us.

Speaker 10 (01:31:50):
So the reason why these other donors have gotten nowhere,
Bill is because there's a much bigger check that's being
writ and written by the Persian Gulf most cutter and
also Iran.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Thaine Rosenbaum, The book is beyond proportionality. Israel's just war
and Gaza. Once again, this is a fight Western civilization
must win, and if we lose, we're going to go
back into the Middle or Dark ages. And Thane Rosenbaum,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And we'll
see what happens in the weeks ahead. I would anticipate
that as soon as Iran has the capability of marrying

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a thermonuclear missile with atomic bombs, it's going to happen.
Because they've told us. They told us they're going to
kill every Jew they can find. They told us they're
going to obliterate Israel they told us that, and I
would listen to what they have to say. But Thane Rosenbaum,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show, and than
will do it again.

Speaker 14 (01:32:45):
Thank you very much anytime.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
Bill.

Speaker 14 (01:32:47):
Thank you see the world very clearly.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
I admire that. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
God bless America and God bless Israel. Bill Cunningham, the
Great American, Live with you every Sunday.

Speaker 15 (01:32:55):
Night, Billy cunning in the Great American. More information is
coming out tonight about the terrible events in Boulder. It
appears the person identified as using an improvised flamethrower, his
name is Mohammed Solomon. He's an Egyptian national who came

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here in August of twenty two, what about two and
a half three years ago. And overstate is visa. We
have over one million so called foreigners entering our country
under a visa system that are waived in claiming to
be a tourist or wanting to do some work here,
whatever it might be, go to school, and over one

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million of overstate and they have orders to leave. One
of those who overstayed and had orders should have left
was Mohammed Solomon. But under of course, Joe Biden, none
of that happened.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
In fact, in many cities yesterday they were protests about
the Trump administration actually enforcing federal immigration laws. What a
new concept. And the hatred toward Jews continues unabated. It
is incredible that somehow among certain leftists in this country
and some people on the right, that hatred of the
jew has become normalized and encouraged. Some of the videos

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coming out of Boulder, Colorado on these events that took
place several hours ago are totally disgusting, as several older
Americans there to peaceably indicate there as many hostages being
still held in Gaza, that somehow they should be set
on fire with an improvised flamethrower in the hands of

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Mohammed Solomon shouting free Palestine, Free Palestine. You might recall
outside the Israeli Embassy in Washington, d C. About three
weeks ago it was free Palestine, Free Palestine on college campuses.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
What do you hear?

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Free Palestine, Free Palestine, and Palestine number one has been
given the opportunity to be free beginning in twenty oh five,
and many other occasions, amass takes over the entire country.
And I do not believe that Israeli troops earlier today
fired at innocent Gosin's trying to get trying to get

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some food hidden by Hamas and protected by him Moss
and doled out. I don't believe that, but may God
bless Israel, and somehow the hatred of the Jew in
this country must be curtailed, if not eliminated, because it
is a cry of the radical left, and it must stop.
Let's continue with more coming up. Next to John Lott
is an expert on guns. He has some stacked and

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statistics how valuable guns are in the hands of private
individuals like you and me. Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham,
with you every son you know. Bill Cunningham, the great American,
of course an expert on gun and gun possession, legal

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and otherwise.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Is of course the great.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
John Lott spent time as the Attorney General's office with
Donald Trump on his first term. He runs a course
crimeresearch dot Org, which is a fabulous website. Had a
posting a couple of days ago about crime rates of
illegal migrants is underreported and John Lott welcome again to
the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, John, I
also would note that it appear there was a six

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hundred thousand plus numbers put on for the employment numbers
the last six or seven months of the Biden administration.
Somebody put that up in order to make the employment
rate look better than it was, because for political purposes
it was required. You had this column up about crime
rates of illegal migrants underreported, and I always hear about
the immigrant community commits fewer crimes than regular American citizens.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
What is the truth?

Speaker 6 (01:36:44):
You know, first of all, when you mentioned the term
immigrants with that mixes together, are numbers for both legal
and illegal immigrants, right, And while legal immigrants commit crime
at low rates, very low rates, illegal immigrants actually commit
crimes at high rates compared to the rest of the

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US population. And so you kind of lose those differences
when people just talk about immigrants as a whole. But
you know, you can look at numbers from the Bien
administration even and there are reasons to believe that they're underestimates.
But last year, a couple months before the election, the

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Deputy Director for ICE admitted that of the seven point
four million non detained individuals that had been released into
the country, six hundred and sixty two thousand of them
or about nine percent had criminal records. The problem that
you find, though, is that that's pretty much just dealing

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with people who voluntarily turn themselves in at the border.
Those aren't the ones that you would think you have
to worry the most about. It doesn't include the two
plus millions so called guide aways, people that we saw
coming across the border but we weren't able to catch.
It doesn't include the millions more that we never even

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saw coming across the border. I mean, one of the
problems that we had during the Biden administration is that
over seventy five percent of the border agents who had
previously been there at the border to guard it had
been pulled off of that duty and had been used
by the Biden administration to process illegal aliens coming through.

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And the passive equipment that we had, like cameras and
whatever to go and monitor the border, the Biden administration
admitted that thirty percent of them had been broken and
not operating, and that they hadn't spent any resources.

Speaker 11 (01:38:49):
To try to fix them.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
So you had huge areas of the borders. We have
no idea how many more millions, and those are the
ones that you should be most concerned about. There, So
that course, even the nine percent assumes that the buy
An administration was properly even the ones that they did
check the criminal backgrounds for had properly checked those.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
And like so many other issues, you have a great
factoid in your column that says the following. They ignore
a key issue. Criminals often target those similar to themselves.
Illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crimes against other
illegal immigrants, and these crimes often go unreported for fear
of deportation. And so for those who are thinking, well,

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this is some racial argument or some other, no, no,
illegal immigrants commit crimes against other illegal immigrants because they
live in similar communities. And secondly, they know that the
victims aren't going to call the police for fear of deportation.
And these studies neglect to adjust their analysis for this factor,
particularly when they're relying upon the FBI uniform crime reporting data.

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And so, how can you really determine how many crimes
committed by illegal aliens when you have that factoid that
the victims don't report them anyway? You know what I'm saying,
do you have some sense is that it's a guess,
But how many more crimes have been committed especially by
Venezuelan gangs or chi laying gangs, et cetera, using the

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app to come into the country Haitian gangs when in fact,
if the crimes aren't reported, you can't tabulate what the
crime rate is, correct.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
No, I mean, you're gonna underreport what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:40:31):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:40:31):
One of the things that's come out recently is that
you've had that different Venezuelan gangs have turned against each
other and are killing each other, you know, to try
to control things like drug trafficking and human trafficking. You know,
it's something that we've observed for long periods of time

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with gangs fighting against each other to control turf. And
you know, so God only knows how many crimes that
are there. But the thing is, even understanding that these
are underestimates, there's still big numbers that are there that
we're dealing with. And you know, you the problem is

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the quality of the data that we have simply doesn't
properly keep track of illegals in this country. I mean,
we have the Knixt background check system for going and
buying a gun. Uh, technically only American citizens or people
who are legal residents in the United States are able

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to go and purchase a gun. But yet we have
lots of evidence that indicates that illegals are able to
go through the background check and are not flagged for
the fact that they are illegals there that they just
haven't been you know, properly recorded as you know, as

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being illegals.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
And so, you know, we have no idea.

Speaker 6 (01:42:00):
But you look at Arizona as one place in the
country that at least in the past, has collected this data.
The Arizona County Prosecutors Association was showing that in Maricopa County,
which is the largest, most populous county in the state,

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you had illegals being convicted of violent crimes at more
than twice their share of the population. You look at
the state prison population, illegals were forty percent more likely
to go and be members of gangs than than the
general Arizona population. And they were, you know, one hundred

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and forty two percent more likely to be convicted of
violent crimes than the general population.

Speaker 1 (01:42:52):
And that's kind of a minimal number.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
On top of that, or all the other crimes committed
by leoaliens who the victims don't a if I the
crime is taking place, they won't identify the person did it.
So those are minimal numbers, and this is a massive lawlessness.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:11):
And so uh you know, I mean these are staggering
numbers to begin with.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
Uh and uh.

Speaker 6 (01:43:20):
And the thing is, these ilegal aliens tend to commit
the most violent crimes and uh, you know, everything from
murder and uh firearms offenses to uh child molestation and
uh and other types of rate uh they go on.

Speaker 5 (01:43:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
Secondly, and this is a couple of weeks ago, and
I don't think we've discussed it since then.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
It's been almost the three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
But do you have some sense as to that the damage,
the harm inflicted upon American citizens by the Biden administration
for their immigration policies that has little or no national
media coverage, someone should write a book. I know Jake
Tapper's doing a great job. Of course he's paid to

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write a book now. But while it was going on,
he didn't do his job as a so called newsman.
Same thing at ABCNBCCBS Washington posting just aut line them
all up. We knew the mental acuity and that's one
of the main reasons, of course Joe Biden lost.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
But what is to be gained by having importing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:27):
Into this country unattached, unemployable young males who are violent
from third world countries to come into this country eight
to ten million, I don't know, maybe more, and to
wreak havoc on everage, citizen's cars being stolen, women being raped,
burglarizing homes. Here in Cincinnati, we've had a rash of

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Chileans and Venezuelans breaking into homes with bricks through plate
glass witness, We've had rash of car break ins, and
how on top of the run of the mill criminals
that happens all the time, making urban life almost unlivable.
And you talk about Maricopa County, you could talk about Washington,
d c. Talk about Cincinnati, New York City, Chicago is

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equally bad, and seemingly there's no one blowing the whistle
on what's happened in the past four years and tie
it to your research. Have you thought about writing another
book about what is actually caused by twenty one, twenty
twenty one, and twenty twenty five, the wreckage and the
damage to our society caused by these policies.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Is that a book idea you might have?

Speaker 6 (01:45:33):
Well, I appreciate the suggestion. I probably should. I just
have to put together the different things I've already been
working on to do it, so it may not be
too time consuming. But you know, they are real costs.
I mean, during the Buying administration, we just have the
crime data out through twenty twenty three right now, But

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from twenty twenty one through twenty twenty three, if you
look at measure of total crime from the Bureau of
Justice Statistics, we had a fifty five percent increase in
violent crime. That's the largest three year increase in violent
crime that we've had in the that they've ever recorded.

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It's more than twice as large as the previous three
year increase that you had had in violent crime.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:46:25):
It's the same time we had this huge surge of
illegals coming into the country. Yeah, so you know, obviously,
you know, if you just take the six hundred and
sixty two thousand criminals that the Biden administration identified, and
again that's probably an underestimate for many reasons. But even

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if you just take their number and look at the crime,
the most serious crime that they committed, we don't know
the number of crimes. We just know what the most
serious one was, you know, you're in the nationalis two.
Justice has put together kind of a cost to victims
of crime from costs lost wages, pain and suffering. You're

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coming to an estimate of like one hundred and sixty
three billion dollars in terms of victim costs. And again
that's a huge underestimate of the costs that are there.
But those are you know, it's not just and the thing,
it's just not the direct costs to the victims of crime.
Those are important. You have losses to their families, You

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have businesses that close down, you have people who lose
jobs and places to go and shop. Higher crime rates
and areas mean that you have depressed housing values. People
lose real wealth when crime goes up in areas. And
so you know, the costs are well beyond even that

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one hundred and sixty three billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
And John, you mentioned the fifty five percent increase through
twenty twenty three, and I don't trust the numbers. We
had an administration for four years that lied to us
almost every day, lied about price day cancer. I guess
Hunter Biden and doctor Joe Biden and others were in
charge of the presidency it came out through the Department
of Labor that they fudged the numbers of the tune

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of six hundred thousand more people working in twenty twenty
four than actually we're working. And the only increase in
employment for the last four years under Joe Biden was
a government employee. So when they tell us there was
a fifty five percent increase, when they tell us one
hundred and sixty three billion dollar expense, to me, that's
the tip of the iceberg, because they give you the

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numbers that you want to hear and not the truth.
And the truth we just know there's no go parts
of our cities and counties. You don't want to go
into those parts of town, and we know how people react.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
Lastly, about two minutes remaining, you had a column up
about armed civilians stopping active shooters more effectively than police.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
We have about two minutes remading.

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Can you explain how armed civilians, by your research, stop
active shooters more than police. It makes sense that someone
has a gun there, you call a nine to win
one if you're lucky at cops there in five minutes
or thirty minutes, But what does the research demonstrate on that.

Speaker 6 (01:49:17):
Right well, basically shows one incredibly difficult job police have
because they're in uniform.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
If you're an.

Speaker 6 (01:49:24):
Active shooting attack is one where that FBI collects the data.
Active shooting is a gun fired in public, not part
of some of the type of crime like a robbery
or a game fight over drug turf, anything from one
person being shot at and missed to a massive public shooting.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
And the thing is, if somebody's going to.

Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
Go and start shooting in public there and they see
a police officer, they have real tactical advantages. They can
wait for the police officer to leave the scene, or
they can move on to another target themselves, or if
they're going to do the attack there, who do you
think they take out first? They go after the officer
because he's the one person that they know that they

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can readily identify as having a gun. And so we find,
for example, that when police are trying to stop these attacks,
they are killed at seven times the rate that concealed
carry permit holders are killed when they're trying to stop
these attacks. Simply because you know, people need to realize
what an incredibly difficult job police have, and beyond that,

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you have to realize relatively few police there are. We
have six hundred and seventy thousand full time law enforcement
in this country.

Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
You know, you maybe have two hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:50:39):
And thirty thousand or so on duty at any point
in time. You know, we have three hundred and forty
million people. Compare that to the number of concealed carry
permit holders.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
We have twenty one point five million permit holders in
the United States.

Speaker 6 (01:50:54):
We have twenty nine constitutional carry.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
States, including Ohio and Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (01:51:00):
In places like that where it's not even necessary to
have a permit, you know, we have surveys show that
about seven percent of likely voters carry all most or
all the time. About fifteen percent at least carry some
of the time. You know, you're just much more likely

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to have a permit holder around there to stop in
most states than you are to have a police officer there.
And in part it's because the guy knows to avoid
somebody in uniform. You know, I guess one way of
phrasiness is we have air marshals on planes. Who thinks
that air marshals are to be in uniform?

Speaker 7 (01:51:43):
Nobody?

Speaker 4 (01:51:44):
Nobody would know.

Speaker 6 (01:51:45):
Because if you have a terrorist there, who are they
going to take out first?

Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:51:49):
I'm not saying police officers shouldn't be in uniform. I'm
just saying we need to appreciate what an incredibly difficult
job they have, and I don't think most people appreciate it.
So it makes it less likely that they'll be there
when the attack occurs, and when they are there, they
have a very very risky, very dangerous job.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
John, You're kind of like the Sergeant Show Friday. Just
the facts, man, give me the facts. You have the
facts at crimeresearch dot Org and John Lott. Once again,
thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. John, thank
you very much. Thank you, Bill, God bless you. Let's
continue with more Bill Cunningham, the Grand American Live with
you every Sunday night. Hi Billy Cunningham, thanks for listening
this Sunday night. One of the great values of live

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Sunday night shows is picking up the pieces of the
week that was and looking to the week coming ahead.
And what happened in Boulder, Colorado a few hours back
is disgusting. A suspect now identified as Mohammed Solomon, an
Egyptian national who overstayed his visitor's visa for like two
and a half years, has been identified in a targeted
terror attack on peaceful pro Israeli gathering. Seemingly there were

(01:52:57):
some older individuals supporting the idea of freeing the hostages,
and some sort of improvised flamethrow was used to hopefully
kill in his mind, but mortally injure six individuals between
the ages of US sixty seven and eighty eight years old,
and somehow on college campuses in the leftist quarters and

(01:53:20):
some on the right normalizing hatred of the jew Is
something which is their currency in the trade. And that's
why Donald Trump's trying to stop that hatred on college
campuses funded by Cutter and others who just heard Thane
Rosenbaum talk about that as a consequence Jews in this
country and everyone is at risk. I look forward to

(01:53:41):
the next few days. Some brought to justice for that
terrible event. It appears at this point it was a
singular event. But once again, an Egyptian national overstate is welcome,
and Joe Biden did not go find the guy. Thanks
for listening, and we continue with more Bill cunning into
Great American with you on all of the Great Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
Ray Sunday Night,