September 26, 2025 • 13 mins
Rep. Nikema Williams (D-GA) talks about the economic power and impact of the Black community in America
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good afternoon. I'm Andrea Coleman with the Black Information Network
at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundations fifty fourth Annual Legislative Conference,
and we are talking with Georgia Congresswoman Nakeima Williams, who
represents the state's fifth district, the Fighting Fifth, the Fighting
fifth and formerly represented by the Lake John Lewis. I
mean you inherited a whole lot thing. Yeah, pressure and hello, Hello,
(00:22):
and actually just a little disclosure. I used to be
in your district before we got new maps and just
loved actually the history of all of that and and
everything that you were doing. So it's an honor to
talk with you today.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
So you are taking on and talking about black business
and all that's taking place in that space. During your panel,
you did so talk a little bit about what the
aim of the panel was and why this topic is
so critical right now.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
So the panel title was black business is Everybody's business.
And I know, like some people are looking at me
crossways and they're like, we don't want people in our business,
but we absolutely need to make sure that we're uplifting
black businesses. And it's not just up to black people.
This is a collective effort. It takes public private partnerships
the federal government.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm doing my part.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I introduce the Minority and Entrepreneurship Grant Access that will
create grants for entrepreneurs at HBCUs and minority serving institutions
so that they can grow, start and sustain their businesses.
And these grants would be two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars at minimum. It is bipartisan legislation, which is kind
of unheard of in this day and time. But I
(01:32):
am willing to work with anyone who is going to
help me uplift the needs of my community. I know
the purpose and why I am here, and that is
to make sure that the people that I represent are
always centered and have access.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And we know that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Small businesses are over ninety percent of all businesses in
this country and Georgia is more like ninety nine percent,
and so I know that I have an obligation to
continue to uplift Black small businesesses. So we had a
panel on Wednesday kicking off the annual Legislative Conference, and
we actually had Alfonso David from the Black Economic Alliance.
(02:10):
He moderated the panel. We had doctor Craven's from who
used to be an undersecretary under the Biden administration, talking
about where we were, where we need to go, and
where we are in this moment.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
There's a lot of buzzwords out there.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That you can't use to get grant access. You might
have just heard this week in Atlanta, where we have
a history of making sure that minorities and black people
are intentionally included in all of our like not just
grant making process but procurement processes, especially when you look
at the airport and what Maynard Jackson did to build
(02:47):
a black middle class in Atlanta, and that Atlanta Airport
has been the model. And so now we just heard
in the news this week that they're going to lose
about fifty seven million dollars unless they change the way
that they give they do their procurement process at the airport,
and that would make black people who have been able
(03:12):
to access wealth and build generational wealth by having airport contracts,
that will set us back. And so we are working
on that. But this is the time when we need
to come together. I was when we were chatting earlier.
I was talking to some colleagues and people were like, well,
there's a lot going on in DC. I'm not sure
(03:32):
if I want to be there and bite my constituents.
We got the National Guard controlling and it's a rough
time in DC. I won't sugarcoat it, but I need
it to be here, and I am so grateful for
so many people from Atlanta that are here. I was
out with the mayor last night. We're going to be
out again. We got Atlanta's in today. I see my
school board member because we got to work on this
(03:53):
at every level. But I need it to be here
because we need to be in community at this moment,
and it's going to take all of us to get
through this moment. I can't do it alone as the
congresswoman for Atlanta, and I know that the community can't
do it without a congresswoman fighting for them. But when
we come together, we are powerful. And I am here
to do the work. And I am so fortunate to
(04:16):
have a district that backs me up every day as
I fight for them in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, that is tremendous.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That is tremendous.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You said a couple of things. So regarding your granted
you carry the name minority, is that safe these days?
I mean, is it the language that will not fall
victim to DEI rollbacks or pushback or is that a
safe term.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So there are pages and pages and pages of terms.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Some people even told me that my panel maybe shouldn't
be called black. Business is everybody's business. But I'm a
black woman. I am here at the Congressional Black Caucus.
We are sixty two members strong, and I will not
hide the fact that I'm black. So we will see
what happens. But we are fighting things in the courts,
(05:00):
in the community, and in Congress. And when we come together,
we can defeat things like telling me that I shouldn't
use the word black, and I'm a black woman. So
there's a lot of work to do. But I also
understand how I got to this position. I'm in the
seat that was represented by the late Congressman John Lewis,
but Ambassador Andrew Young also held this seat, and so
(05:21):
it is a very historic seat. And I am clear
eyed about my mission and my service here in Congress.
And I understand that there are going to be times
when people are going to want us to shrink and
step back from the forefront.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But I'm not willing to do that because I.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Know that I'm here for a reason for a purpose,
and the people that came before me and open this
door expect me to stand strong and the power that
we have as a member of Congress, And so they
want me to change the terms, but I can't change
who I am. I'm not going to change the people
that I represent, and I am here to do the work.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Talk a little bit about accessing opportunity right now. There
are a lot of black businesses that are hurting, business
owners who have lost funding, programs shut down and in
a place just of either transitioning or trying to find
the pathway forward. Where is that opportunity today? And why?
Guess what is Congress doing? How can Congress help people
(06:16):
identify pathways to prosperity as say they try and look
for ways to maintain their livelihoods.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Absolutely, So, I also just launched the Small Business Advisory
Council in my office, my Congressional office, and it is
a partnership, a public private partnership. Our very first meeting
our launch was that into.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It which is based.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
They have a big office in Atlanta on the Beltline,
and this is a big corporation that is in Atlanta,
and they brought in my small Business Advisory Council because
they're also helping small businesses.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's why the public.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Private partnerships are so important, and it's so important for
the big corporations to speak up in this moment and
to stand in their power because some people see things
as blue and red, Democrat or Republican, black or white.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But I know these business to see green and they
want to make money.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And there are a lot of small businesses that are
contracting with these large corporations for the tools that they
provide to keep their businesses functioning. And so it's a
symbiotic relationship, and so we're doing everything that we can
to bring people together to That's why we launch the
Small Business Advisory Council, so that I could hear directly
from the people that need our assistance most about what
(07:29):
policies we need to put in place, what are the
barriers to them thriving in this moment because I don't
want you to just start your business. I want you
to be able to grow and sustain this business because
we know that when black businesses thrive, America thrive.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Are you hearing much from your constituents about what they're
going through or are you seeing some of the pain
hearing people talk about the pain or you know, I
guess whatever, the impact of the changes that have been
taking place these past few months have had on their lives.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I also in Atlanta, we are the headquarters for so
many regional offices for the United States government. So we
have a regional HUD office, regional EPA, we have a
VA hospital, and so I am hearing from people at
every angle about the cuts, the riffs, so many people
that have been laid off and lost their jobs, and
(08:18):
we've seen the staggering numbers where black women are at
the forefront of who's suffering in this moment. So I
have brought people in. I held the listening session in
my office for federal employees who have lost their jobs,
so that we can understand exactly what they're hearing from
the administration, what excuses they were given for losing their jobs,
and how we can then be creative and what policies
(08:42):
we implement in Congress to prevent this from happening, especially
as we're looking down the road and our president and
his party is kind of forcing a government shut down
on our country, and so looking at how can we
then step in to make sure I also represent the.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
World's busiest and deficient airport.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And so when we think about things like the FAA TSA,
these are federal agencies that will be impacted. And so
these are some of the conversations that I'm having. I've
gotten calls from the labor unions that represent federal employees
and especially and the CDC is headquartered in my district
as well, and we've all seen them on the news lately.
Just not to mention the horrific shooting where we lost
(09:24):
a Decabe County police officer, but also those workers who
were then forced to go back into that building where
the glass still have bullet holes in the windows. So
we are looking at the mental health of these workers
that have lost their jobs and their livelihoods, and how
we can work with other agencies to make sure that
(09:44):
they are taking care of. Fulton County government is giving
a preference right now to federal employees who are seeking
jobs with Fulton County, and so that is one thing
that we've been amplifying. So people who are looking for
work go to Fulton County if you're a federal employee,
and that is a class of workers that they're prioritizing
right now.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Very good. The impact of a shutdown should there be one,
What kind of impact do you anticipate seeing on the
ground in Atlanta and your district should the government not
be able to come together and pass some measure that
would keep us afloat.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So what we know is this administration is not about
sticking to norms, and so there have been conversations in
the past and norms and agreements on which agencies would
not be impacted, who would be deemed essential, and who
would not. That we are unclear on what this administration
is planning. We keep hearing that there's going to be
(10:41):
massive job cuts, but they've already laid off a lot
of people. So there's a lot of scare tactics to
try to force Democrats to barter on the backs of
people who rely on Medicaid, who need healthcare in this
country to simply stay alive.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm not willing to barter on the.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Backs of seniors, of sick children, of people who need healthcare.
Just this week, we heard about a hospital in Lavonna, Georgia,
who closed their entire birthing unit.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It was in the AJAC this week, close.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Their birthing unit because of cuts, funding cuts, and so
what happens now to women looking to give birth in
that community who are already traveling from outside.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Areas to get there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And Georgia still is leading the nation with our maternal
mortality rates. And so this is a time when we
can't power to fear and barter on the backs of
people who simply won't healthcare to stay alive in this country.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Anything your constituents and other voters can do to express
their concern about a possible shutdown.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Absolutely, numbers and line items in a budget are easy
to ignore.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Stories are powerful, extremely powerful.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
On my website, Nichema dot Williams at House at House
dot gov.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
No that's the email, but on the website.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
But on my website, we're collecting stories because I want
to share your stories and committee. I want to share
them on the House floor of the United States House
of Representatives. I want to share them in interviews because
people don't forget the stories. We need those stories to
pink the picture of what is happening in this country
because it's not just Democrats that will hurt our Republicans
(12:23):
or independents. These are American people across the board that
are hurting in this moment, and we need to tell
their stories, not just a line on them in a budget,
which is very easy to ignore.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, very good. We appreciate your leadership and we thank
you so much for stopping buying talking with us. Please
keep us posted on everything that you have going on,
all the legislation that you're sponsored or support they are introduced,
and definitely on the grant proposal that you have going
for the HBCU students. That's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah. Vikiah Williams, representative of Georgia's historic fit the District,
joining us to day on the Black Information Network as
we are here at the Congressional Black Caucus is found
Congressional Black Caucus Foundations Fifth Annual Legislative Conference. We think
you again for your annual fifty fourth Annual Legislative Conference
and a place of restoration and rejuvenation. I understand and
(13:16):
lots of.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Luf you can do the work and find joy along
the way.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I tell you what you can have to give us,
either some T shirts or some kind of like bumper
stickers or something to keep the hope going. But thank
you so much for your time in leadership. Thanks
Good afternoon. I'm Andrea Coleman with the Black Information Network
at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundations fifty fourth Annual Legislative Conference,
and we are talking with Georgia Congresswoman Nakeima Williams, who
represents the state's fifth district, the Fighting Fifth, the Fighting
fifth and formerly represented by the Lake John Lewis. I
mean you inherited a whole lot thing. Yeah, pressure and hello, Hello,
(00:22):
and actually just a little disclosure. I used to be
in your district before we got new maps and just
loved actually the history of all of that and and
everything that you were doing. So it's an honor to
talk with you today.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
So you are taking on and talking about black business
and all that's taking place in that space. During your panel,
you did so talk a little bit about what the
aim of the panel was and why this topic is
so critical right now.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
So the panel title was black business is Everybody's business.
And I know, like some people are looking at me
crossways and they're like, we don't want people in our business,
but we absolutely need to make sure that we're uplifting
black businesses. And it's not just up to black people.
This is a collective effort. It takes public private partnerships
the federal government.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm doing my part.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I introduce the Minority and Entrepreneurship Grant Access that will
create grants for entrepreneurs at HBCUs and minority serving institutions
so that they can grow, start and sustain their businesses.
And these grants would be two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars at minimum. It is bipartisan legislation, which is kind
of unheard of in this day and time. But I
(01:32):
am willing to work with anyone who is going to
help me uplift the needs of my community. I know
the purpose and why I am here, and that is
to make sure that the people that I represent are
always centered and have access.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
And we know that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Small businesses are over ninety percent of all businesses in
this country and Georgia is more like ninety nine percent,
and so I know that I have an obligation to
continue to uplift Black small businesesses. So we had a
panel on Wednesday kicking off the annual Legislative Conference, and
we actually had Alfonso David from the Black Economic Alliance.
(02:10):
He moderated the panel. We had doctor Craven's from who
used to be an undersecretary under the Biden administration, talking
about where we were, where we need to go, and
where we are in this moment.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
There's a lot of buzzwords out there.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That you can't use to get grant access. You might
have just heard this week in Atlanta, where we have
a history of making sure that minorities and black people
are intentionally included in all of our like not just
grant making process but procurement processes, especially when you look
at the airport and what Maynard Jackson did to build
(02:47):
a black middle class in Atlanta, and that Atlanta Airport
has been the model. And so now we just heard
in the news this week that they're going to lose
about fifty seven million dollars unless they change the way
that they give they do their procurement process at the airport,
and that would make black people who have been able
(03:12):
to access wealth and build generational wealth by having airport contracts,
that will set us back. And so we are working
on that. But this is the time when we need
to come together. I was when we were chatting earlier.
I was talking to some colleagues and people were like, well,
there's a lot going on in DC. I'm not sure
(03:32):
if I want to be there and bite my constituents.
We got the National Guard controlling and it's a rough
time in DC. I won't sugarcoat it, but I need
it to be here, and I am so grateful for
so many people from Atlanta that are here. I was
out with the mayor last night. We're going to be
out again. We got Atlanta's in today. I see my
school board member because we got to work on this
(03:53):
at every level. But I need it to be here
because we need to be in community at this moment,
and it's going to take all of us to get
through this moment. I can't do it alone as the
congresswoman for Atlanta, and I know that the community can't
do it without a congresswoman fighting for them. But when
we come together, we are powerful. And I am here
to do the work. And I am so fortunate to
(04:16):
have a district that backs me up every day as
I fight for them in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, that is tremendous.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That is tremendous.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You said a couple of things. So regarding your granted
you carry the name minority, is that safe these days?
I mean, is it the language that will not fall
victim to DEI rollbacks or pushback or is that a
safe term.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So there are pages and pages and pages of terms.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Some people even told me that my panel maybe shouldn't
be called black. Business is everybody's business. But I'm a
black woman. I am here at the Congressional Black Caucus.
We are sixty two members strong, and I will not
hide the fact that I'm black. So we will see
what happens. But we are fighting things in the courts,
(05:00):
in the community, and in Congress. And when we come together,
we can defeat things like telling me that I shouldn't
use the word black, and I'm a black woman. So
there's a lot of work to do. But I also
understand how I got to this position. I'm in the
seat that was represented by the late Congressman John Lewis,
but Ambassador Andrew Young also held this seat, and so
(05:21):
it is a very historic seat. And I am clear
eyed about my mission and my service here in Congress.
And I understand that there are going to be times
when people are going to want us to shrink and
step back from the forefront.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But I'm not willing to do that because I.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Know that I'm here for a reason for a purpose,
and the people that came before me and open this
door expect me to stand strong and the power that
we have as a member of Congress, And so they
want me to change the terms, but I can't change
who I am. I'm not going to change the people
that I represent, and I am here to do the work.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Talk a little bit about accessing opportunity right now. There
are a lot of black businesses that are hurting, business
owners who have lost funding, programs shut down and in
a place just of either transitioning or trying to find
the pathway forward. Where is that opportunity today? And why?
Guess what is Congress doing? How can Congress help people
(06:16):
identify pathways to prosperity as say they try and look
for ways to maintain their livelihoods.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Absolutely, So, I also just launched the Small Business Advisory
Council in my office, my Congressional office, and it is
a partnership, a public private partnership. Our very first meeting
our launch was that into.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It which is based.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
They have a big office in Atlanta on the Beltline,
and this is a big corporation that is in Atlanta,
and they brought in my small Business Advisory Council because
they're also helping small businesses.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's why the public.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Private partnerships are so important, and it's so important for
the big corporations to speak up in this moment and
to stand in their power because some people see things
as blue and red, Democrat or Republican, black or white.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But I know these business to see green and they
want to make money.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
And there are a lot of small businesses that are
contracting with these large corporations for the tools that they
provide to keep their businesses functioning. And so it's a
symbiotic relationship, and so we're doing everything that we can
to bring people together to That's why we launch the
Small Business Advisory Council, so that I could hear directly
from the people that need our assistance most about what
(07:29):
policies we need to put in place, what are the
barriers to them thriving in this moment because I don't
want you to just start your business. I want you
to be able to grow and sustain this business because
we know that when black businesses thrive, America thrive.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Are you hearing much from your constituents about what they're
going through or are you seeing some of the pain
hearing people talk about the pain or you know, I
guess whatever, the impact of the changes that have been
taking place these past few months have had on their lives.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
I also in Atlanta, we are the headquarters for so
many regional offices for the United States government. So we
have a regional HUD office, regional EPA, we have a
VA hospital, and so I am hearing from people at
every angle about the cuts, the riffs, so many people
that have been laid off and lost their jobs, and
(08:18):
we've seen the staggering numbers where black women are at
the forefront of who's suffering in this moment. So I
have brought people in. I held the listening session in
my office for federal employees who have lost their jobs,
so that we can understand exactly what they're hearing from
the administration, what excuses they were given for losing their jobs,
and how we can then be creative and what policies
(08:42):
we implement in Congress to prevent this from happening, especially
as we're looking down the road and our president and
his party is kind of forcing a government shut down
on our country, and so looking at how can we
then step in to make sure I also represent the.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
World's busiest and deficient airport.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And so when we think about things like the FAA TSA,
these are federal agencies that will be impacted. And so
these are some of the conversations that I'm having. I've
gotten calls from the labor unions that represent federal employees
and especially and the CDC is headquartered in my district
as well, and we've all seen them on the news lately.
Just not to mention the horrific shooting where we lost
(09:24):
a Decabe County police officer, but also those workers who
were then forced to go back into that building where
the glass still have bullet holes in the windows. So
we are looking at the mental health of these workers
that have lost their jobs and their livelihoods, and how
we can work with other agencies to make sure that
(09:44):
they are taking care of. Fulton County government is giving
a preference right now to federal employees who are seeking
jobs with Fulton County, and so that is one thing
that we've been amplifying. So people who are looking for
work go to Fulton County if you're a federal employee,
and that is a class of workers that they're prioritizing
right now.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Very good. The impact of a shutdown should there be one,
What kind of impact do you anticipate seeing on the
ground in Atlanta and your district should the government not
be able to come together and pass some measure that
would keep us afloat.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So what we know is this administration is not about
sticking to norms, and so there have been conversations in
the past and norms and agreements on which agencies would
not be impacted, who would be deemed essential, and who
would not. That we are unclear on what this administration
is planning. We keep hearing that there's going to be
(10:41):
massive job cuts, but they've already laid off a lot
of people. So there's a lot of scare tactics to
try to force Democrats to barter on the backs of
people who rely on Medicaid, who need healthcare in this
country to simply stay alive.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm not willing to barter on the.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Backs of seniors, of sick children, of people who need healthcare.
Just this week, we heard about a hospital in Lavonna, Georgia,
who closed their entire birthing unit.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It was in the AJAC this week, close.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Their birthing unit because of cuts, funding cuts, and so
what happens now to women looking to give birth in
that community who are already traveling from outside.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Areas to get there.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And Georgia still is leading the nation with our maternal
mortality rates. And so this is a time when we
can't power to fear and barter on the backs of
people who simply won't healthcare to stay alive in this country.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Anything your constituents and other voters can do to express
their concern about a possible shutdown.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Absolutely, numbers and line items in a budget are easy
to ignore.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Stories are powerful, extremely powerful.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
On my website, Nichema dot Williams at House at House
dot gov.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
No that's the email, but on the website.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
But on my website, we're collecting stories because I want
to share your stories and committee. I want to share
them on the House floor of the United States House
of Representatives. I want to share them in interviews because
people don't forget the stories. We need those stories to
pink the picture of what is happening in this country
because it's not just Democrats that will hurt our Republicans
(12:23):
or independents. These are American people across the board that
are hurting in this moment, and we need to tell
their stories, not just a line on them in a budget,
which is very easy to ignore.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, very good. We appreciate your leadership and we thank
you so much for stopping buying talking with us. Please
keep us posted on everything that you have going on,
all the legislation that you're sponsored or support they are introduced,
and definitely on the grant proposal that you have going
for the HBCU students. That's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah. Vikiah Williams, representative of Georgia's historic fit the District,
joining us to day on the Black Information Network as
we are here at the Congressional Black Caucus is found
Congressional Black Caucus Foundations Fifth Annual Legislative Conference. We think
you again for your annual fifty fourth Annual Legislative Conference
and a place of restoration and rejuvenation. I understand and
(13:16):
lots of.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Luf you can do the work and find joy along
the way.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I tell you what you can have to give us,
either some T shirts or some kind of like bumper
stickers or something to keep the hope going. But thank
you so much for your time in leadership. Thanks
Popular Podcasts
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
The Brothers Ortiz
The Brothers Ortiz is the story of two brothers–both successful, but in very different ways. Gabe Ortiz becomes a third-highest ranking officer in all of Texas while his younger brother Larry climbs the ranks in Puro Tango Blast, a notorious Texas Prison gang. Gabe doesn’t know all the details of his brother’s nefarious dealings, and he’s made a point not to ask, to protect their relationship. But when Larry is murdered during a home invasion in a rented beach house, Gabe has no choice but to look into what happened that night. To solve Larry’s murder, Gabe, and the whole Ortiz family, must ask each other tough questions.