November 2, 2019 • 50 mins
Bobby and Eddie talk about famous songs that are actually misunderstood. The artists wrote them about one subject but over time people have taken them to mean something completely different. From Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton, "Born in the USA" by Bruce Springsteen, "Closing Time" by Semisonic and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Episode one. Famous Songs with Misunderstood Meanings And
at my house to do the podcast today, and I
feel like it's a Sunday and you really wouldn't be working.
But because I have a pool, I'm here and you
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could use the kids could use the pool. Yeah, it
worked out wonderfully. It worked out great. Actually, so you'd
be you don't buy about twenty minutes, yes, because it's
it's becoming a thing now to leave the house at
the same time. If I want to be somewhere on time,
we've got to separate. Oh so you can't get out
on time with all four of the we tried. That
was the goal to all get here at the same time.
I'm like, all right, I gotta go see you there.
(00:43):
So what if they get here a while you're up
here and go straight to the back? Okay? Cool? Right? Yeah,
to have them to go to that back like they
know it's yeah, I think so the two main doors,
don't if not, screw it, man, then figure it out. Yeah,
but that's Eddie. And so we were talking about doing
this bobbycast because we haven't done one, and people like
these a lot more than I thought that, not that
(01:04):
I didn't think they would. It's just that we geek
out a lot over music, and I didn't think a
lot of people like that. I think they just like you.
Oh oh cool Eddie from the Sore Losers podcast, which
I encourage you to check out if you like sports
or or guy talk. Do you guys talk about farts
a lot or not? No? Good? No? I mean sometimes
we do. Yeah. Sometimes we talk about like hooking up
(01:25):
more than we should because like past hookups and like
what girls like that kind of stuff, And it's just
like we shouldn't talk about all that. Let's just move
on at Home run last night. Check out the Sore
Losers podcast. But we're gonna do famous songs with misunderstood meanings.
Trying to think of this well, and this is where
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it all came from, because on the show recently, I
was talking about this song right here, Wonderful Tonight by
Eric Clapton, And people usually think this song is a
love song, correct, straight up loves song. Yes, because he's like, yes,
you look wonderful. People dance their first dance. They play
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it in romantic scenes of movies because again most people
feel it's a love song. But what it's really about
is waiting for his girlfriend to get ready, like hurry up? Yeah,
like hey, yeah, you look great, let's go and again
lots of proms. Yeah. Do you know what Catillian is? Oh,
let me see Cotillion. Yeah, it's got to be a
rich person thing. Okay, Cotillion? Is it the white person
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version of a Umania or a Bartz? I think that's
what I'm I don't I don't know. I mean I'm
a Mexican. Yeah, I would assume that it's this. It's
that right, right? What is that? Write? A package of
passage where like a girl turns into a woman. Is that?
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You know how you feel uncomfortable talking about talking about
girls running into women? But I think that's what it was. Mike,
Will you look up cotillion? Because I was a little
Hispanic guy in South Texas and there was a group
of white people that had Cotillion and I got asked
to cotillion by one of these girls. What was your age?
We were juniors in high school, so seventeen, okay, so
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maybe a little older than yeah. And so this I
remember this song was our first dance because we'd got
there and we're hanging out whatever, and this song came
on and She's like, this is a nice one. I
liked this, and let's dance to it. But this always
reminds me of that Cotillion. I still don't even know
what that is. The song gets used a lot in
problems of weddings, but Eric Clapton wrote Wonderful Tonight in
nineteen seventy six while waiting for his girlfriend and future wife,
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Patty to get ready for a night out. They were
going to a Buddy Holly tribute to Paul McCartney put together,
and Clapton was in the position that he was used
to of waiting while she tried on clothes. We've all
been there, like many of us. Pat Do you know
that pat the George Harrison's story. No, So Patty was
married to George Harrison back in the day, and Eric Clapton, yeah,
(04:02):
he's married to that. She was married to George Harrison
from the Beatles when he wrote Layla, which, depending on
which version you know, I know, is that just Layla?
The later version is no, Oh, there's the unplugged one too. That.
Ok That's what I'm thinking of. Okay, okay, so you're
thinking of the fast yeah Lela No, no, But then
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the slower one un Unplugged was we're almost thinking the
same thing back, but in our minds we're doing it.
Clapton Harrison remained good friends, but Layla was about her,
and Harrison even played at their wedding in nineteen seventy nine.
But I thought her name was Patty, not l Yeah,
but you don't always put the girls. Oh your name
is that writer's code. Eric and Patty then divorced in
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nineteen eighty eight. Patty Boyd recalled that Eric Clapton was
sitting around playing his guitar while I was trying on
dresses upstairs. I was taking so long, and I was
panicking about my hair and my clothes everything. And I
came down downstairs expecting him to really berate me, and
he said, listen to this. In the time she had
taken to get ready, Clapton had written this song right here,
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turn that up. And it's just how he says it.
It's because it's slow, because because if you would have
said it in normal in that if you ask me
like green Day, I look all right, I said, yes, yes,
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you look wonder Let's go exactly. Yeah. A lot of
it's the tempo of the song. You want another one Yes,
these are misunderstood songs that are associated with something completely different.
Bruce Springsteen, Born in the USA. Most people think this
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song is about being super patriotic. Yeah, like I was
born in the USA, American, It's clear the opposite. I'm
gonna be honest you, I'd never really listen to these lyrics.
I mean, either all here is born in the USA.
And also I believe the album cover, if I'm right,
had an American flag wrapped on his hands like a
bandana or bocket, one of the two his back pocket. Yeah, okay, Hey,
what was a cotillion? By the way, It's like a
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French thing. So the cotillion is a dance at a
debutant ball debutante. Yeah, I guess it's the same thing.
They do it for their girls that are the right
of passage. Creepiest thing you could say about I think
that's what they said. I don't know, it's not my
words changed. This song Born in the USA is really
about casting a critical and mournful eye on America and
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its involvement in war. Bruce Prioks is gonna be like
what is happening? Songs? Massive turn, the turn of that flood. Second,
I wonder what will you pull up the lyrics, read
me the first verse. I'll read you some of this
about it here. It's one of the most interpreted, misinterpreted
songs ever. Most people thought it was a patriotic song
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about American pride, when it actually is shameful on how
America treated its Vietnam veterans. Wow. Springsteen considered it one
of his best songs, but it bothers him that it's
so widely misinterpreted. With the rhythm, the enthusiastic chorus, and
patriotic album cover, it's easy to think, because you see
all that in your here to do too, that it
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has more to do with American pride than Vietnam shame.
That's what it says. Let's let's do the first lyrics here.
It's born down in a dead man's town. The first
kick I took was when I hit the ground, end
up like a dog that's been be too much until
you spend half your life just covering up. I mean
that verse alone just kind of says it, but we
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don't hear anything except yeah, born in the USA. Here
we go. Here's another lyric, come back home to the refinery.
Hiring man said son. If it was up to me,
went down to see my Va man. He said, son,
don't you understand I had a brother at Keisan fighting
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off viet Cong. They're still there, he's all gone. He
had a woman he loved in Saigon. I got a
picture of him in arms now and it goes on,
you're right, Yeah, that's not a patriotic song, not at all.
But the choruses, that's crazy. I wonder who the first.
I wonder whose idea it was would be like, hey,
it's fourth of July, guys play the greatest American song,
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Born in the USA. You can just tell we don't
listen to lyrics now. We don't know, not just me
and you, no, but the collective we of America. Springsteen
wrote about the problems that Vietnam veterans encounter when they
returned to America. Vietnam was the first war the US
didn't win, and while veterans of other wars received a
heroes welcome, those who fought in Vietnam were mostly ignored
when they returned back home. What year did that come out? Eighties? Right? Yes?
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Born in the USA nineteen eighty four. This dude who
was going to make the movie Born in the USA
but it was too associated with a song. Springste helped
him out, providing the song light of Day, which became
new to the movie. What movies you're talking about? Oh
it was. The original title was Vietnam, and he sent
Springsteena script for the movie called Born in the USA,
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about a rock band struggling with life and religion, which
gave Bruce the idea for the new title. Anyway, it's
just is not what it seems. This is the epitome
of this subject. Like, I mean, no one thought that
this song was a protest song. If you hear the thunder,
it's because it's thundering outside. We are in a storm.
Dolly partons I Will Always love You. It's a song.
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It's not about a bodyguard. Well, that's another misconception. People.
You just think this is a breakup song, like I
Will Always love You even though we're not together. I
see that sec is still a love song. But it's
really a song about Dolly's mentor and appreciated the time
they worked together. She We've heard this story from her,
so it's well, it's not a love song in the
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conventional sense. So she wrote her for a close friend. Yes,
Wagner Porter Wagner. There you go, I believe, so let
me keep reading. In nineteen sixty seven, she was invited
by the country star Porter Wagner to coast his TV show,
where they became famous for their duets, and as time,
her enormous talent eclipsed that of him, and she basically
got bigger and decided to jump off. And so she
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wrote the song about the time they had together, and
I Will Always Love You, not a love song about kissy, kissy,
but a love song like hey, thanks, because they weren't
romantically involved. Yeah, like I'll always love you and he
and she said she just felt like she had to leave,
and he was like, okay, well, good luck, because they
thought he thought that they would just do that forever
them too. She said, leaving Porter Wagner wasn't easy. He
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thought she was making a big mistake and felt she
was being disloyal. That's it. Dolly Parton played the song
to Wagner the morning after she wrote it as a
way of letting him know that her mind was made
up and to express how she felt about him. Apparently
he got the message across. She said that he was
in tears and called it the prettiest song ever her,
but only done in nineteen seventy three, whenever they split.
They were together seven years on that show and just
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working together, and she wrote the song and say here's
how I feel. I will always love you, but I
gotta go. So it is, I guess in a sense
it's a breakup song too in a way quote but
I gotta go. Yeah, it was. It just wasn't about love.
But again it's not like romantic love. Yeah, it's not
about romantic love or romantic breakup. But it is about
love and a breakout. But we got it wrong and
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the bodyguard got it wrong too. Yeah, well refreshed my memory.
What why why is that song relevant in the movie
in the Bodyguard, Like they fall in love with each other? Right,
spoiler alert, I don't know. I've never seen a bodyguard. No,
I just see Kevin cost like jump out and take
a bullet and then he carries her off. So somebody dies, right,
Like does he carry her off? How does he take
a bullet and then he carries her off? I have
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no idea how the bodyguard goes. I've never seen a bodyguard.
All right, Well, they messed it up too. It was
the second of five consecutive number one country hits that
she had established. And by the way, Dolly told us
that she had never heard the Whitney Houston VERSI until
she was driving in the road roo car correct, and
she was like she had a radio on. I was like, whoa.
It was like a verbal agreement that she had and
she was like, yeah, whatever, and she'd forgotten all about
it that she said, yeah, they she can record it,
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and so she heard the final things like it's really good.
That's what she said, dust dude. Yeah, She's like, huh,
they're really good. Yeah. You want to have your mind
blown with another one. Come on closing time by Simisonic.
It's not about a bar closing and you gotta go.
It isn't it's not even about something closed. You're lying.
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There's no way listen to Hey, Mike, will you play this?
From the very beginning, he even says like you don't
have to go home, but you can't stay here. That's
what every bar says. Yeah, I think they've taken it
as their own. Whatever you're about to say, I'm not
gonna believe because the message does fit the bar, but
it also fits what I'm about to tell you. Okay,
just listen a bit. All right, So this is simisonic
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closing time, not about a bar closing or anything closing. Here,
you gotta go closing time. Part of that open all
the doors and let you out into you. I hear it, Mike,
when I know what it's about closing talking about turn
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all of the lights on over every boy and every girl.
That's a bar, lights on, closing time, one last call
for out, come on, come on, show whisky beer. It
literally could be a bar. Yeah it is, okay, you
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don't have well you built the lyrics up on the page, Mike,
Ye stay here, take me, okay, take it up to
the bar situation. It is not. It's about childbirth. What
the thing is the whiskey and beer coming? Well, you like,
look at the lyrics here again. All right, closing time,
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time for you to go out into the world. Baby
out of the womb, turn on the lights over every
boy and every girl. That's the baby's surgical room. And
then he put a couple of lines in here to
also make it. No, see, you can't throw a line in.
You don't have to be so literal with everything. But okay,
so how is the whiskey and beer go in childbirth like.
It doesn't have to anesthetics, It doesn't have to be literal.
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Bars picked it because it was literal. Yeah, I mean,
because that's what it is. That's so the singer said
it's about the birth of his daughter when he wrote it.
Rather than write a cheesy song that was so blatantly
about birth, he hid the songs real meaning, he said.
The guys wanted a new song to close our sets with,
so I thought closing time would be a good title.
We had spent seven years of our lives at that point,
four nights a week entertaining people. That was our live.
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I started realizing the whole thing was a pun about
being born, so I made sure the rest of the
thing could ride with that double meaning. But nobody got
the joke, and I didn't bother to explain everybody would
get it because it's not an obvious joke. Yeah, it
wasn't supposed to be. It is had to be literal. Interesting.
Time for you to go back to the places you'll
be from the room won't be open till your brothers
or sisters come. I hope you found a friend. Every
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new beginning comes from some other beginnings in but you
die in childbirths or don't take the girl crossover like
when Ercle went to full House Stefan, Oh no no,
just Ercle, Yeah remember that. Um. He wrote the lyrics
time for You to go out to the Places you
will be from, to show the song's focus was actually
on the miracle of childbirth rather than an ode to
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kicking late night bar flies to the curb. Wow. He
admitted that he had babies on his mind part way
through riding it. He said, we were expecting our first
kid at birth on the brain. It was struck. What
a funny pun it would be being bounced from the womb?
And I guess he wrote it by himself. Want Dan
Wilson so much money? Wow? I mean, I'm not believe
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in the story. The only writers I believe you. I
feel like he's messing with us. I feel like it's
one of those things where like, watch this, I'm gonna
go into this interview, watch this, I'm gonna get them
real good. Whatever. Dude, there'll be a hater because you
never caught it. But now every time you hear it,
you'll know, Yeah, I'm gonna be thinking of a baby.
I mean, what you're gonna do put lyrics and about stirrups. Yeah,
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let's go lightning crashes on that one. And again not
so much about a baby being born, he says, placenta
falls exactly, you can't. It's like a rebirth of life
in general in many ways. Maybe I'm just not that deep.
Um every breath you take by the police. It's a
love song. It's a stalker song. Is a song? Yeah,
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that just clicks. People usually think the songs about being
madly in love with someone, but it's really about a
guy stalking girl. Come on, we can't do that again.
A super misinterpreted song. An obsessive stalker that sounds like
a love song. Well, the obsessive person feels like their
own love, and to them it's just love, right. Yeah,
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you've talked to people. No not. Some people use it
a wedding song. I'll say this too in this example.
In the other examples, a song is the message is
really what you make it? Right? Sure, if you wanted
to use this as your wedding song, because you have
a different meaning, and so that's totally a music. Yes,
beauty of literature music like you can use it in
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the way that it affected you, correct, So that'd be
I'm not gonna kind of bag on anybody for using
it as a wedding song. Maybe they just google it,
maybe before google it. If you do it, now, that's
on you, like all the informations out there and we're
telling you right yeah, um yeah. Some people use it
as um again, their wedding song or first dance song.
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The police from man Sting wrote it after separating from
his first wife Francis in nineteen eighty three. He said,
it's a nasty song, really rather evil. It's about jealousy
and surveillance and ownership. Regarding the common misinterpretation of the song,
he said, I think ambigue is intrinsic, however, treated how
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you will. On one level, it's a nice ambiguity. You
can't really tell. It's an honest question, by the way, No,
I know. Yeah, people are a little too embarrassed now
admit they don't know what words means. Because I'll read books.
I like to read books. I'll come across the word
don't know what it means. I'll just look it up.
Yeah yeah, and my wife there's a lot of words
like that, and I was like, what does that mean? Um?
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In America. This is their biggest, the biggest hit of
nineteen eighty three. It stayed number one for eight weeks,
longer than Billy Jean, longer than Yeah, there's the biggest
song of the How hard he goes on that last part.
Every breath you take, every move you make, every bond
you break, every step you take, every game you play,
every night you stay so pissed. That's the point where
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it's like And he wrote it by himself breaking Gordon Sumner,
that's a real name. I had no idea that was
really name. Yeah, And Gordon Sumner reminds me of Gordon
Shumway new Gordon Schulmway is. I don't type in Gordon
Schumways it comes up. I love. I believe that's ALF.
I don't know. Again, I'm okay with asking a question here.
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What an ALF stand for? Right? It was like life, Yeah,
Gordon Shumway is, it's ALF. It is ALF. Alf's real
name is Gordon? With you? How do you know that?
It was funny? Sometimes made myself laugh. Whatever, that's a
good reference, Mike. We can play a game like that.
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And ACRONA for alien life form. Yeah, man freaking Willie
Tanner was the dead about ALF and admitted I haven't either,
but freaking Gordon Shumway, that's awesome. That great, Mike likes that.
I happened to know Gordon, say, you checked out? Yeah,
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and I was. It was so obscure that I wasn't
better google that. How sure of that? Were you? Beast?
I like, okay, good, like I give it an on
a roll shurtness, but I went straight to ALF. I
wasn't a because that was so long ago and it
could have been mixed up over the years. Yeah, ALF
was cool because there was the show I liked ALF,
the TV show that it had a cartoon that was
pretty good and then developed late and I talked show
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for it and and they did it like on Nick
at Night, but it never really blew up. I think
they wanted to go network with it at first. Yeah,
but yeah, Alf's ALF was done um in the Air
tonight by Phil Collins. I mean, now I'm starting to
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think this is definitely about global warming and it okay.
People usually think the song is about Phil Collins seeing
a man let another man drown. What was the lyrics
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that made people think that? Mike? Oh, that one? Well,
if you told me you were drowning, I would not
lend a hand. I've seen your face before, my friend,
but I don't know if you know who I am.
Here you go, I see your face. So people thought
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this was about like you and semisonic, very simple. They
thought it was about a bar. But no, it's not.
It's really a song with no meaning. I hate that
the myth that people believe Phil Collins wrote the song
after watching a man let someone else drown. It's a
big misinterpretation because Phil Collins says it's about nothing. He
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said the song was written without any specific meaning behind it.
He drew inspiration from his recent divorce at the time,
but most of the lyrics were improvised. But that didn't
stop people from spreading one of the most famous urban
legends in music history. The legend goes that Collins wrote
the song after watching a man let someone else drown,
which was lyric well, if you were drowning, I would
not lend a hand, And according to the myth, Collins
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later found the guilty man at a concert. There's different
versions of the story too, and all of them are nutty. Well,
because when you have a song that means means nothing,
you can do that, right, Yeah, you can just say
it's about whatever. One of the versions has a friend
of Phil Collins taken the place of the drowning man,
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and another has Collins refusing to rescue a drowning man
who raped his wife. They just got more absurd as
they go. Don't go, well, it's not true. Now that's
some fiction story right there. He came back and wrote
that song. No, no, no, no, it's not true. You're
missing the whole one. Why don't we write a song
like this, Well, that's kind of nothing. That's kind of
how we write songs at the big get eddieoplay style,
eddio play chords or and I'll just start yelling a
(23:04):
bunch of words to the melody and it's nothing, yes, improvised,
and then we kind of go back and adjusted to
make money out of it. Uh. Yeah. The myth has
submitted itself in popular culture and even was referenced in
Stand Eminem Stand. Yeah. You might remember these letters right
here from Eminem Standing. Go ahead. You know the song
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by Phil Collins in the Air of to Night about
that guy who could have saved that other guys drowning.
But the Bhil song at all that at it, so
we found him. That's kind of how this is. Who
could have rescued me for drowning? Now it's too late.
I'm one a thousand downars now I'm drowsy? Was allowed?
Why does Eminem say in the Air of the night,
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Because I's about to say I thought the song was
called in the Air tonight, But it's stands saying it,
so it could have been like, okay, him just getting wrong.
I thought I'd got wrong all these years. It's about
to go, Wow, breakthrough. I thought it was called in
the Air tonight. That's crazy man. Yeah, but even even
he had it wrong. Well standard. One of my favorite
bands that no longer really is a relevant band is Rim.
Oh yeah. This one goes out to the one I Love,
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goes out to another one of those songs, well multiple thing.
It's a love song obviously because it's just one so literal,
like goes out to I Love like a request. Yeah,
that's really about using someone over and over again. It
was our first hit. By the way, this is the
first r M hit. Wow TI time. This one goes
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out to the one I Love fire and it's wild
that their first hit was an eighty seven I wasn't
listening to RIM. No, I'm six or seven years old,
but there was that gap, generational gap where like like
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my brother he knew RIM, and then I liked RIM
the later Rim. Yeah, when RM hit for me, it
was losing in my religion was the big video. Yeah.
This was their first hit song in nineteen eighty seven.
It's not a love song. He describes the song as
about how people use people over and over and over
again and until this line here, a simple prop to
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occupy my time is the lyric that goes, that's what
I'm showing. Yeah, that's the one that sets it straight
right there. So what does he say? Fire? And then
what she's coming She's coming down the mountain when she
comes prettily? Oh, I never I've never heard that before. Listen, Mike,
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if you'll pause that for one second. So what they
yell in the background so faintly is fire and they
go she's coming down on her own. You'll hear it. Oh,
let me see, Mike, it's so faint. That's the first
I've ever heard that. Okay, we're gonna go back to
the beginning of the song lazy We're here. What's the
new one? Fromorrow Rampant Ramplet Years, nineteen eighty seven. You know,
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I don't. I don't know. I don't know where it is.
I don't want to miss I don't risk missing it. Wow,
I've never heard that part. So listen closely, turn it
up on the fire. I'm Mike, if you don't mind,
chime all right, here you go go shop. Listen. First,
she's coming down on her own. Check it up fire. Wait,
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it's to say the first it's the first one. It's
the one we heard earlier. Did you not rewind it?
You hear it? Downdious? Why she's coming down down? Wow, dude,
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first I've ever heard that. We listen to the song
thound a thousand up. Damn Wow, that's so cool. How
about this one Crashing to Me by Dave Matthews. Oh
my gosh, Okay, I think I know what this is about.
There's another stalker, and you should know because you're a
(27:25):
Big Day fan, Huge Day and I love Dave. Shoo.
Now I mean frat girls, a sorority girls, frat guys
like this was their song. Like girls loved this song,
and people would think it's about a passionate love affair
or a love song. I gop your skirt a little
more your world to me. It's really about an next
(27:46):
boyfriend peeping at a woman from a window. Yeah, because
he does say that in the verse you've got your ball,
you got it's hard. He goes right there, bones on
the bottom. I'm watching there your window, I staring you
wear nothing. That's it. These lines give it away. I
watch you there through the window and I stare at you.
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You wear nothing, but you wear it so well I'll
creep you. Huh. That was written from the point of
view from a boyfriend who wants his girlfriend bag. I
watch you there through the window, basically saying he's watching
how beautiful she is. The song is about a boyeuristic man.
Many people can see it as a love song and fail,
we'll see the trumaning behind it. On Storyteller's Dave Matthews
mentioned that the song was written from a peeping tom perspective. Wow,
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and no one ever got that before. And if that's
not enough, he says, hike up your skirt a little more,
show your world to me. But again, if you're not
being literal with it right, it could mean anything like
highyps a little more. Share world. It could be like
exposed me to different feelings and thoughts. Skirt covers one thing,
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but the skirt of the world could be a beef
skirt could be a fahita. I remember when my brother
learned this on guitar and he was so proud and
he's like, dude, sing it, you know all the words,
and we sang it. We had the whole family there,
and I was like, huck up your skirl. Oh more.
My dad was like stop that. Stop that next song
so so so me even says I'm the king of
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the castle. You heard the dirty Rascal? They scroll a
little bit more. Mike by the way Day wrote that
song by himself, But what does that mean? Crash from
me wrote by himself. These people be making so much
money solo writing these songs by David John Matthews, Sir,
crash into me? What's he meaning? Like, let's get our
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worlds together? Like but again he put our worlds together?
Is also I can't mean anything. These guys are so artistic.
Slide by the Google dolls wake up when all I'm
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no clue. People usually think it's about being in love.
It's really about unplanned pregnancy. Mhm. The song is about
dealing with an unplanned pregnancy, with lilyterrics like I want
to wake up where you are or I'll do anything
you ever dreamed to be complete. It's understandable if you
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overlook that as a song that's about pregnancy. Um oh oh,
he says, I'm gonna what Yeah, he does say I'm
gonna let it slide. Does that mean like, all right,
I'll just let this one slide. We got the baby,
We're gonna We're gonna do this. Listen to this lyrics
don't you love the life you killed? Meaning meaning like
his yes, your priest is on the phone, your father
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hit the wall, your mom disowned you, I'm planned pregnancy wow.
Or maybe he's talking about her life like like he
may have. She may have killed her own life by
being pregnant, like like not literally, like figuratively, like your
life's over now you got to raise a kid. Yeah,
the life you know you knew is done. Johnny Resnick
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explained it during a storytellers. Slide is actually about these
two Catholic teenage kids and a girlfriend gets pregnant and
they're deciding whether they should get an abortion or get
married or just go on and I don't think a
lot of people will get that. The singer described it
as a nuts so uh sad tale about some hard choices.
So I think about that pretty deeps a little ditty.
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We listened to all these songs not thinking about any
of this. American Pie by Don McClaine, I can't remember.
You'll know what this is about. That's the it's the
death of the plane crash part of it, right, So
you're right. Mostly it's it encapsulates that whole era, and
that's the sixties and that plane crash, um the fifties, fifties,
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you're right, and not even the year, but so much,
but that era. And what kind of was the exclamation
point on the end of it was the plane crash
with Richie Vallen's the Big Bop or Buddy Holly, and
it's referenced in the song. But um, I mean jam right,
jam sang and this soul be the day that and
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the day that the music died. This literally is the
day that that plane crashed with all the music in it.
But he said that the lyrics were very ambiguous, again,
which means I know what it means now, what like
um ambiguity means Yeah, it's doesn't make much sense. Can't
tell really like you don't know it could go by
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the way. Yes, people ask me if I left the
lyrics open to ambiguity. Of course, I didn't want to
make a whole series of complex statements. He put the
song's original manuscript for auction at Christie's Cologne. The songs. Oh, yeah,
I'm gonna guess it's he wrote it by himself too,
These guys a six minute song, Mike, I think seven
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is it? So? So? When he there are more people
that he's referencing, right, like when he says the gesture again,
I think it's just a time in characters, right, And
I feel like these characters are just different artists. Oh,
I never thought about that they were all specific artists.
Like I think the jesture maybe would be Bob Dylan.
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You could be honest something I don't know. Might we
do that the gesture and miss American Bob Dylan? Because
if you're write about that, you can ride about the
ones too. Yeah, Jackie nimble Jack be quick because obviously
John Lennon, Yeah, John Jack huh Don McLean wrote it
by himself. Oh, speaking of John Lennon, imagine I mean,
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I mean, we all know what this is about, right,
go ahead, imagine what the world would be like without
these certain things. Most people think that it's a song
about peace and global unity. Kind of what are you
kind of because he's just kind of saying, like, imagine
if we didn't have these people in power doing certain
things religion, politics, everything else, it's actually about Wi Fi
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dial up, AOL didn't even exist, You got me? That's funny.
It's more so because it's a slower tone. People think
it's super peaceful. It's not. It's like a song about
revolutionary ideas of how to achieve peace but doing it
through radical ways. But he was smart enough to go, well,
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if I slow it down introdud as a ballad, people
are gonna feel like I'm hugging the world more than
screaming it the Wow does he say that? I'm no,
I mean, that's not Why did he not say it
like that? Because it's true? And then us we're all
like a slow song, so I like it's peaceful. The
song is actually about the Communist manifesto. Wow, And now
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I'm reading earlier that was just me musing myself. That's
pretty good. Most people think that ballads. The ballad imagines
about pople putting aside their differences, but it's more political.
According to Rolling Stone, he once described the song as
virtually the communist manifesto. And even though I'm not particularly
a communist and do not belong to any movement, the
song clearly asked the listener to imagine a world without
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religion or possessions, but len It admitted he intentionally admitted
he intentionally tried to sugarcoat his message with the song.
The sweetness of the song, yeah, like sonic lad, it's like,
oh imagine it is a big hit almost everywhere in
a beautiful song because it's anti religious, anti nationalistic, anti conventional,
anti capitalistic, and because it's well soften. It's like honey.
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But this video is so good too. The white piano
and uh Sarah McLaughlin angel. Yeah, it's about puffieses Hi
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fourteen ninety nine, Hi Sarah, And for the low Low
prize of two ninety nine, you can help Sparky. Yeah,
I know only has one eye, but you can help
that one eye. And it always airs like three in
the morning when everyone's drunk, like all right, here's my wallet.
This free you Sparkie. Oh crat, what did I do
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last night? Adopted thirty dogs? Wait, what's Sparky's new eye?
What the Sarah McLaughlin got me again? Um? The song
most people thinks about angels and losing someone, it's really
about heroin addiction. Whoa yeah, More specifically the guy from
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Smashy Pumpkins who died? Really? Who was that? The keyboardist?
Oh wow, he died ninety six. And I'll read a quote.
I went to a cottage north of Montreal to relax
and write. I read about these Smashing Pumpkins keyboard player
who had odd in a hotel room. She wrote this
about a song about the drug addict struggles with the world.
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The angel symbolizes the drugs the addict gives in too
repeatedly in the arms of an angel, meaning the drugs. Yes, said.
The story shook me because although I had never done
drugs like that, I felt a flood of empathy for
him and the feeling of being lost, lonely and desperately
searching for some kind of release, and that release was drugs, or,
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as some people would have it, their angel. Wow. Crazy, right.
People use this one in like funerals, right, Like this
is kind of sure, maybe because angel is literally it's
taking the end like their little interpretation. Yes, I've never
heard in a funeral, but it will make sense. Wow,
this is I mean that changes this one. I mean
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that song is. This song has always been beautiful to me,
but it's always been like I don't know what's about pretty,
but wow, I mean I'm reading it now and like, yeah,
that's pretty deep. Spend all your time waiting for that
second chance, for a break that would make it okay.
There's always some reason to feel not good enough, and
it's hard at the end of the day. I need
some distraction. Oh, beautiful release memory seep from my veins.
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There's the hotel room too, and maybe empty, oh would
wait less and maybe I'll find some peace tonight. Wow.
Just a different feeling about it when you know you're
talking about drug addiction and drugs from this dark hole.
You're right in the chorus in the arms of an angel,
fly away from here, from this dark, cold hotel room
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and the endlessness you fear. Wow. Oh, well, another super
sad one. You think that one's gonna get you? Sarah
McLaughlin wrote that one on your own too. Maybe they're
just writing one person, but surely the next one. Don't
cry Hansen and Bob, Now what's this one about? What
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do you think it's about? I have no idea tune Bob,
And now there's more in verses that I don't remember
what they say. Most people think it's just to catchy
pop song that really means nothing. Yeah, not true. It's
really about how everything we love will be gone before
we know it. What does umbop have to do with that?
They made the word up and it really isn't made
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up work nineteen ninety seven, they said bop represents a
frame of mind and umbop they're gone like bop, It's gone,
like who was gone? Oh? Just like that? Yeah, okay,
because Bob's a word. The whole song is about the
fact that almost everything in your life will come and
go quickly. You got to figure out what matters and
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grab onto those things. Or they don't really love doing
that song though, No, and then they do. They do,
but they don't, like everyone has respect for that one
song that did it for them. But it's man, it's
gonna be hard when that's the one you sing all
the time. Well, they played Our Million Dollars show and
I like those guys, and I know Tyler a bit
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Taylor Taylor, how well I know Tyler Jim And I
was thinking about having my phone as um because I
don't want to put him with Tylor Hanson. You want
to see it, Tyler Hans. It literally is so um.
Taylor had come and sat beside me and the seats
of the rhyme and was like, hey, man, can we
not do whom Bob? We'd prefer to do this other
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song And that's a hard that's a hard question for you.
And it just comes right up to me and asked me.
And I respected that he asked me straight up. It
just didn't get on and not play it. But at
the same time, everybody came to see Bob that was
coming to that show. Is that what you told him?
I was like, man, you can play whatever else you want,
but you gotta play him Bob. Like that's it. I again,
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you don't gotta I'm not gonna make you. Yeah, but
I can't sit here and say, you know what, go ahead,
do whatever you want. Like everyone here wants you to
play him Bob. So if I'm asking, please play him Bob.
And they did, and everybody freaking jerked their phones out
quicker than I've seen almost anybody pull their phones to
any artist. So but and it's also a super a kid.
So I'm sure they're adults and they have kids. They
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have probably kids that are close enough. They're in right,
So we'll be like writing a song when you're fourteen
and having to sing it when you're thirty, over and over.
I remember when they committed and you told me. They're like, oh,
they're gonna do the show. And I'm like, oh, great,
so we might have to learn m bop And I
looked over the oom bob and I'm like, I'm never
gonna memorize that. Ever, you have a favorite hands the
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song that oom bop? No no No? I like, Oh,
there's another one that I really like. It's about a girl.
Maybe that Penny and Me is a good one. Penny
of Me was really good. Did they do that on
our show? Maybe? I think they did so good? Um,
will you pull up the hands and play last night?
Penny and Me's a jam? My favorite is I Will
come to you who They're so good they are? It's
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talented again where you played from the beginning, where you
play m I will come them? I come here. It's
to you. I will come to you. I will come
to you. Wouldn't that you know this one? This is
deep cut. This is the hands and deep cut. I
will come Nope, nope, not deep You have much to
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go and I will come to you. Come star, come
on jam rejum for me. I will come to you.
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I will come to you. Dreams. Well, I believe that
does it for today's show man. It's funny how you
said a lot of these stories came out of like storytellers.
They didn't bring storytellers back with like Ariana Grande and
be like Ariana, what is um when you say you
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like my hair? Just bought it? What do you mean
by like? You know? Storytellers was huge to us and
we learned so much. And she'd be like, well, how
was it home with thirteen people? Actually I wasn't even
there and we were just thrown out words. Of course,
we made a melody. They gave us the beat and
we went and then we had to fit words over
and those twos having a fit because I remember learning
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that like Pearl jam Eddie Vedder wrote like Betterman or
something fifteen years before the band even got together. Oh yeah, yeah,
and they'll learn that from storytellers. Well, it's like County
Crows when they were the Himalayas. I didn't know that. Hey,
will you look up to again? I could miss this
up their band, his band was the Himalayas. Yeah. Oh,
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it could have been a different mountain range. It's been
a was it Everest? Yeah, let's see Blue Ridge because
the last thing I wanted to lead something up here.
That's wrong. But but some of those songs were even
on that record, that first record, The County Crows, Berkeley, California.
First name now type in um County Crows, um original
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band there is there is the himalay Is round here?
Was the Himalays round here? No way? Yeah, American rock
band between ninety and ninety one. They're best known for
starting the Crew. This is that's the base. This is
the himalaya Is doing round here. Wow, that's I mean,
that's a different sound for sure. Yeah. So uh again
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they had written that song and cut it on there.
We can do it. We can do a whole bobbycast
on this, on the counting bands that were before the band.
We just break down all of that Storytellers Live CD. Hey, um,
you know what would be fun at this point, because
a dirt used to be really famous at this point
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because I could break it on pretty easily. Yeah, this
is it. It's about the front door, like a goo
to the fall, Professor notices. So the melody is the
same white way, which is never the same. With that darker,
you ain't get a better view of the crumbling. Also
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wrong and right, I walk in the air. Let's me
the right, bring myself and back again. Less whiny, I
don't know. Wow, good call. Yeah, she's dying through the door.
It's a different debate. Just why. I don't know. That's
just the baseline, like litist, like the lit biscuit baseline.
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This wouldn't admit it mean heavy electrics. You're right, it
does sound like a different fantom blue like horn niscuits. Yeah,
all right, all right. That you taught me that some
one day. Didn't know that, no clue, and that was
a Ryan knew it. So stuff just sits back here
(46:12):
sometimes and I'll just go oh, like my initial reaction
is to yell it out. It matches a lot of times,
like freaking Gordon show way some way, Mike, look that up.
It's all right, by the way, A big shout out
to Mike d who produced this entire episode, all the
clips and tons of research, so thanks to him. Your
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family here, I have no idea. My phone's over there,
but it's raining, so they can't be at the pool.
I have no out check right now, they're probably down
watching TV. I'm started watching the show called The Boys
on Amazon. It's about it's a superhero show, but it's
like real life, meaning Israel life as you can be.
It's like these people are superheroes, but it's like the
real problem have a real like like addiction, oh wow, um,
(46:58):
like sex stuff and they live on Earth. Yeah wow,
that sounds good. It's really good. Like you're watching it
one season? Yeah, it's eight episodes. And if you haven't,
this is not a commercial. By the way, No, I
have Amazon. If you have Amazon Prime and you order stuff,
you get all the shows too, ye, which I didn't
know for a long time. I had to buy a
second separate description a way. Yes, but it also comes
with a lot of other stuff that you didn't know
(47:18):
he had, like TV stuff like golf tournaments. They're all
on there for free for for my gambling. No, if
you like golf or like your basketball games that you
normally wouldn't find. They're on there. I'm gonna go. I'm
gonna go play racquetball with Amy's husband. The big debate
was while I win, yes, you say yes, I think
you will because because he's good. He's a bigger guy,
(47:40):
and I feel like he's stronger than you. But racketball's
about but he's a bigger guy and not fat. He's
no, no no, no, he's pretty in shape. Though he flew
us this week and he had a tucked in shirt.
He did he looks good. Yeah, he looks good, but
I don't. He doesn't write like like you do the
peloton bike like Michael mccartio. But it's more than just running. Yeah,
it's fast, that's mostly what racke bullets back and forth.
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What do you know? You gotta be able to hit it,
though he mostly Eddie's given me his prognostication on rapt
I feel like I could give you a good running
back of ball. There is no way like, not like
unless you've played those. And it's not even my athletic prowess.
It's playing the angles off the walls all the time.
I know, man, Okay, I'm got to play the game.
Cool Cool. I got ten bucks on Bobby Oh ten,
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But would you do ten bucks at four to one odds? Yes,
meaning you would win ten dollars, but you would lose
forty I would correct. But if you bet on me,
you can win a lot more than that, but you
would lose ten win. Thanks Mike appreciated that. Check out
The Sore Losers That's Eddie Lunchbox and Raymundo's podcast. Check
out Amy's podcast Four Things with Amy Brown. Check out
(48:43):
The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson's The Lifestyle podcast about
fashion and just well being a female and living your
your best mid twenties and mid thirties life. Um Also
check out Caroline hobbies podcast called Get Real, where she
talks with a lot of the wives of country music
superstars and just really strong women in the business. By
the way, I don't know if it's up yet, but
Chris Daughtry's wife. Uh so she had a girlfriend while
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her and Chris were together. Open. Oh really, they're married
and she had a real life, open relationship. Talks about
this on the fun h Wow, is it up yet?
It'll be up tomorrow? Oh so you're by the time
I heard this it'll probably she got to get real
with Caroline Hobby And is that at miked about to
bring out another podcast, I'll tell you who it does
off the year, but somebody really funny? Really Yeah, you
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were saying you have a meeting with someone? We did.
It was him and his two managers? Oh cool? Who manager?
Very cool? All right? I know? All right, Thank you guys,
and we'll see you next time here. Anything you want
to say? Oh man, thanks for having me. That's fun.
Who's your favorite band of all the bands? Who's your
favorite band that morphed into County Crows? The only one
that's right? Am I missing anyone? And what is the
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term for ambiguity? Can't tell? It could be either ambiguity,
Well that's so ambiguous if something's ambiguous, but a form
of that would be and begins ambiguity and ambiguity with
his alphural name, Gordon Lightfoot, go down on hand. It's hardest,
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all right, by everybody,
Welcome to Episode one. Famous Songs with Misunderstood Meanings And
at my house to do the podcast today, and I
feel like it's a Sunday and you really wouldn't be working.
But because I have a pool, I'm here and you
(00:22):
could use the kids could use the pool. Yeah, it
worked out wonderfully. It worked out great. Actually, so you'd
be you don't buy about twenty minutes, yes, because it's
it's becoming a thing now to leave the house at
the same time. If I want to be somewhere on time,
we've got to separate. Oh so you can't get out
on time with all four of the we tried. That
was the goal to all get here at the same time.
I'm like, all right, I gotta go see you there.
(00:43):
So what if they get here a while you're up
here and go straight to the back? Okay? Cool? Right? Yeah,
to have them to go to that back like they
know it's yeah, I think so the two main doors,
don't if not, screw it, man, then figure it out. Yeah,
but that's Eddie. And so we were talking about doing
this bobbycast because we haven't done one, and people like
these a lot more than I thought that, not that
(01:04):
I didn't think they would. It's just that we geek
out a lot over music, and I didn't think a
lot of people like that. I think they just like you.
Oh oh cool Eddie from the Sore Losers podcast, which
I encourage you to check out if you like sports
or or guy talk. Do you guys talk about farts
a lot or not? No? Good? No? I mean sometimes
we do. Yeah. Sometimes we talk about like hooking up
(01:25):
more than we should because like past hookups and like
what girls like that kind of stuff, And it's just
like we shouldn't talk about all that. Let's just move
on at Home run last night. Check out the Sore
Losers podcast. But we're gonna do famous songs with misunderstood meanings.
Trying to think of this well, and this is where
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it all came from, because on the show recently, I
was talking about this song right here, Wonderful Tonight by
Eric Clapton, And people usually think this song is a
love song, correct, straight up loves song. Yes, because he's like, yes,
you look wonderful. People dance their first dance. They play
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it in romantic scenes of movies because again most people
feel it's a love song. But what it's really about
is waiting for his girlfriend to get ready, like hurry up? Yeah,
like hey, yeah, you look great, let's go and again
lots of proms. Yeah. Do you know what Catillian is? Oh,
let me see Cotillion. Yeah, it's got to be a
rich person thing. Okay, Cotillion? Is it the white person
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version of a Umania or a Bartz? I think that's
what I'm I don't I don't know. I mean I'm
a Mexican. Yeah, I would assume that it's this. It's
that right, right? What is that? Write? A package of
passage where like a girl turns into a woman. Is that?
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You know how you feel uncomfortable talking about talking about
girls running into women? But I think that's what it was. Mike,
Will you look up cotillion? Because I was a little
Hispanic guy in South Texas and there was a group
of white people that had Cotillion and I got asked
to cotillion by one of these girls. What was your age?
We were juniors in high school, so seventeen, okay, so
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maybe a little older than yeah. And so this I
remember this song was our first dance because we'd got
there and we're hanging out whatever, and this song came
on and She's like, this is a nice one. I
liked this, and let's dance to it. But this always
reminds me of that Cotillion. I still don't even know
what that is. The song gets used a lot in
problems of weddings, but Eric Clapton wrote Wonderful Tonight in
nineteen seventy six while waiting for his girlfriend and future wife,
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Patty to get ready for a night out. They were
going to a Buddy Holly tribute to Paul McCartney put together,
and Clapton was in the position that he was used
to of waiting while she tried on clothes. We've all
been there, like many of us. Pat Do you know
that pat the George Harrison's story. No, So Patty was
married to George Harrison back in the day, and Eric Clapton, yeah,
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he's married to that. She was married to George Harrison
from the Beatles when he wrote Layla, which, depending on
which version you know, I know, is that just Layla?
The later version is no, Oh, there's the unplugged one too. That.
Ok That's what I'm thinking of. Okay, okay, so you're
thinking of the fast yeah Lela No, no, But then
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the slower one un Unplugged was we're almost thinking the
same thing back, but in our minds we're doing it.
Clapton Harrison remained good friends, but Layla was about her,
and Harrison even played at their wedding in nineteen seventy nine.
But I thought her name was Patty, not l Yeah,
but you don't always put the girls. Oh your name
is that writer's code. Eric and Patty then divorced in
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nineteen eighty eight. Patty Boyd recalled that Eric Clapton was
sitting around playing his guitar while I was trying on
dresses upstairs. I was taking so long, and I was
panicking about my hair and my clothes everything. And I
came down downstairs expecting him to really berate me, and
he said, listen to this. In the time she had
taken to get ready, Clapton had written this song right here,
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turn that up. And it's just how he says it.
It's because it's slow, because because if you would have
said it in normal in that if you ask me
like green Day, I look all right, I said, yes, yes,
(05:29):
you look wonder Let's go exactly. Yeah. A lot of
it's the tempo of the song. You want another one Yes,
these are misunderstood songs that are associated with something completely different.
Bruce Springsteen, Born in the USA. Most people think this
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song is about being super patriotic. Yeah, like I was
born in the USA, American, It's clear the opposite. I'm
gonna be honest you, I'd never really listen to these lyrics.
I mean, either all here is born in the USA.
And also I believe the album cover, if I'm right,
had an American flag wrapped on his hands like a
bandana or bocket, one of the two his back pocket. Yeah, okay, Hey,
what was a cotillion? By the way, It's like a
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French thing. So the cotillion is a dance at a
debutant ball debutante. Yeah, I guess it's the same thing.
They do it for their girls that are the right
of passage. Creepiest thing you could say about I think
that's what they said. I don't know, it's not my
words changed. This song Born in the USA is really
about casting a critical and mournful eye on America and
(06:37):
its involvement in war. Bruce Prioks is gonna be like
what is happening? Songs? Massive turn, the turn of that flood. Second,
I wonder what will you pull up the lyrics, read
me the first verse. I'll read you some of this
about it here. It's one of the most interpreted, misinterpreted
songs ever. Most people thought it was a patriotic song
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about American pride, when it actually is shameful on how
America treated its Vietnam veterans. Wow. Springsteen considered it one
of his best songs, but it bothers him that it's
so widely misinterpreted. With the rhythm, the enthusiastic chorus, and
patriotic album cover, it's easy to think, because you see
all that in your here to do too, that it
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has more to do with American pride than Vietnam shame.
That's what it says. Let's let's do the first lyrics here.
It's born down in a dead man's town. The first
kick I took was when I hit the ground, end
up like a dog that's been be too much until
you spend half your life just covering up. I mean
that verse alone just kind of says it, but we
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don't hear anything except yeah, born in the USA. Here
we go. Here's another lyric, come back home to the refinery.
Hiring man said son. If it was up to me,
went down to see my Va man. He said, son,
don't you understand I had a brother at Keisan fighting
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off viet Cong. They're still there, he's all gone. He
had a woman he loved in Saigon. I got a
picture of him in arms now and it goes on,
you're right, Yeah, that's not a patriotic song, not at all.
But the choruses, that's crazy. I wonder who the first.
I wonder whose idea it was would be like, hey,
it's fourth of July, guys play the greatest American song,
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Born in the USA. You can just tell we don't
listen to lyrics now. We don't know, not just me
and you, no, but the collective we of America. Springsteen
wrote about the problems that Vietnam veterans encounter when they
returned to America. Vietnam was the first war the US
didn't win, and while veterans of other wars received a
heroes welcome, those who fought in Vietnam were mostly ignored
when they returned back home. What year did that come out? Eighties? Right? Yes?
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Born in the USA nineteen eighty four. This dude who
was going to make the movie Born in the USA
but it was too associated with a song. Springste helped
him out, providing the song light of Day, which became
new to the movie. What movies you're talking about? Oh
it was. The original title was Vietnam, and he sent
Springsteena script for the movie called Born in the USA,
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about a rock band struggling with life and religion, which
gave Bruce the idea for the new title. Anyway, it's
just is not what it seems. This is the epitome
of this subject. Like, I mean, no one thought that
this song was a protest song. If you hear the thunder,
it's because it's thundering outside. We are in a storm.
Dolly partons I Will Always love You. It's a song.
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It's not about a bodyguard. Well, that's another misconception. People.
You just think this is a breakup song, like I
Will Always love You even though we're not together. I
see that sec is still a love song. But it's
really a song about Dolly's mentor and appreciated the time
they worked together. She We've heard this story from her,
so it's well, it's not a love song in the
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conventional sense. So she wrote her for a close friend. Yes,
Wagner Porter Wagner. There you go, I believe, so let
me keep reading. In nineteen sixty seven, she was invited
by the country star Porter Wagner to coast his TV show,
where they became famous for their duets, and as time,
her enormous talent eclipsed that of him, and she basically
got bigger and decided to jump off. And so she
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wrote the song about the time they had together, and
I Will Always Love You, not a love song about kissy, kissy,
but a love song like hey, thanks, because they weren't
romantically involved. Yeah, like I'll always love you and he
and she said she just felt like she had to leave,
and he was like, okay, well, good luck, because they
thought he thought that they would just do that forever
them too. She said, leaving Porter Wagner wasn't easy. He
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thought she was making a big mistake and felt she
was being disloyal. That's it. Dolly Parton played the song
to Wagner the morning after she wrote it as a
way of letting him know that her mind was made
up and to express how she felt about him. Apparently
he got the message across. She said that he was
in tears and called it the prettiest song ever her,
but only done in nineteen seventy three, whenever they split.
They were together seven years on that show and just
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working together, and she wrote the song and say here's
how I feel. I will always love you, but I
gotta go. So it is, I guess in a sense
it's a breakup song too in a way quote but
I gotta go. Yeah, it was. It just wasn't about love.
But again it's not like romantic love. Yeah, it's not
about romantic love or romantic breakup. But it is about
love and a breakout. But we got it wrong and
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the bodyguard got it wrong too. Yeah, well refreshed my memory.
What why why is that song relevant in the movie
in the Bodyguard, Like they fall in love with each other? Right,
spoiler alert, I don't know. I've never seen a bodyguard. No,
I just see Kevin cost like jump out and take
a bullet and then he carries her off. So somebody dies, right,
Like does he carry her off? How does he take
a bullet and then he carries her off? I have
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no idea how the bodyguard goes. I've never seen a bodyguard.
All right, Well, they messed it up too. It was
the second of five consecutive number one country hits that
she had established. And by the way, Dolly told us
that she had never heard the Whitney Houston VERSI until
she was driving in the road roo car correct, and
she was like she had a radio on. I was like, whoa.
It was like a verbal agreement that she had and
she was like, yeah, whatever, and she'd forgotten all about
it that she said, yeah, they she can record it,
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and so she heard the final things like it's really good.
That's what she said, dust dude. Yeah, She's like, huh,
they're really good. Yeah. You want to have your mind
blown with another one. Come on closing time by Simisonic.
It's not about a bar closing and you gotta go.
It isn't it's not even about something closed. You're lying.
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There's no way listen to Hey, Mike, will you play this?
From the very beginning, he even says like you don't
have to go home, but you can't stay here. That's
what every bar says. Yeah, I think they've taken it
as their own. Whatever you're about to say, I'm not
gonna believe because the message does fit the bar, but
it also fits what I'm about to tell you. Okay,
just listen a bit. All right, So this is simisonic
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closing time, not about a bar closing or anything closing. Here,
you gotta go closing time. Part of that open all
the doors and let you out into you. I hear it, Mike,
when I know what it's about closing talking about turn
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all of the lights on over every boy and every girl.
That's a bar, lights on, closing time, one last call
for out, come on, come on, show whisky beer. It
literally could be a bar. Yeah it is, okay, you
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don't have well you built the lyrics up on the page, Mike,
Ye stay here, take me, okay, take it up to
the bar situation. It is not. It's about childbirth. What
the thing is the whiskey and beer coming? Well, you like,
look at the lyrics here again. All right, closing time,
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time for you to go out into the world. Baby
out of the womb, turn on the lights over every
boy and every girl. That's the baby's surgical room. And
then he put a couple of lines in here to
also make it. No, see, you can't throw a line in.
You don't have to be so literal with everything. But okay,
so how is the whiskey and beer go in childbirth like.
It doesn't have to anesthetics, It doesn't have to be literal.
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Bars picked it because it was literal. Yeah, I mean,
because that's what it is. That's so the singer said
it's about the birth of his daughter when he wrote it.
Rather than write a cheesy song that was so blatantly
about birth, he hid the songs real meaning, he said.
The guys wanted a new song to close our sets with,
so I thought closing time would be a good title.
We had spent seven years of our lives at that point,
four nights a week entertaining people. That was our live.
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I started realizing the whole thing was a pun about
being born, so I made sure the rest of the
thing could ride with that double meaning. But nobody got
the joke, and I didn't bother to explain everybody would
get it because it's not an obvious joke. Yeah, it
wasn't supposed to be. It is had to be literal. Interesting.
Time for you to go back to the places you'll
be from the room won't be open till your brothers
or sisters come. I hope you found a friend. Every
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new beginning comes from some other beginnings in but you
die in childbirths or don't take the girl crossover like
when Ercle went to full House Stefan, Oh no no,
just Ercle, Yeah remember that. Um. He wrote the lyrics
time for You to go out to the Places you
will be from, to show the song's focus was actually
on the miracle of childbirth rather than an ode to
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kicking late night bar flies to the curb. Wow. He
admitted that he had babies on his mind part way
through riding it. He said, we were expecting our first
kid at birth on the brain. It was struck. What
a funny pun it would be being bounced from the womb?
And I guess he wrote it by himself. Want Dan
Wilson so much money? Wow? I mean, I'm not believe
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in the story. The only writers I believe you. I
feel like he's messing with us. I feel like it's
one of those things where like, watch this, I'm gonna
go into this interview, watch this, I'm gonna get them
real good. Whatever. Dude, there'll be a hater because you
never caught it. But now every time you hear it,
you'll know, Yeah, I'm gonna be thinking of a baby.
I mean, what you're gonna do put lyrics and about stirrups. Yeah,
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let's go lightning crashes on that one. And again not
so much about a baby being born, he says, placenta
falls exactly, you can't. It's like a rebirth of life
in general in many ways. Maybe I'm just not that deep.
Um every breath you take by the police. It's a
love song. It's a stalker song. Is a song? Yeah,
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that just clicks. People usually think the songs about being
madly in love with someone, but it's really about a
guy stalking girl. Come on, we can't do that again.
A super misinterpreted song. An obsessive stalker that sounds like
a love song. Well, the obsessive person feels like their
own love, and to them it's just love, right. Yeah,
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you've talked to people. No not. Some people use it
a wedding song. I'll say this too in this example.
In the other examples, a song is the message is
really what you make it? Right? Sure, if you wanted
to use this as your wedding song, because you have
a different meaning, and so that's totally a music. Yes,
beauty of literature music like you can use it in
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the way that it affected you, correct, So that'd be
I'm not gonna kind of bag on anybody for using
it as a wedding song. Maybe they just google it,
maybe before google it. If you do it, now, that's
on you, like all the informations out there and we're
telling you right yeah, um yeah. Some people use it
as um again, their wedding song or first dance song.
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The police from man Sting wrote it after separating from
his first wife Francis in nineteen eighty three. He said,
it's a nasty song, really rather evil. It's about jealousy
and surveillance and ownership. Regarding the common misinterpretation of the song,
he said, I think ambigue is intrinsic, however, treated how
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you will. On one level, it's a nice ambiguity. You
can't really tell. It's an honest question, by the way, No,
I know. Yeah, people are a little too embarrassed now
admit they don't know what words means. Because I'll read books.
I like to read books. I'll come across the word
don't know what it means. I'll just look it up.
Yeah yeah, and my wife there's a lot of words
like that, and I was like, what does that mean? Um?
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In America. This is their biggest, the biggest hit of
nineteen eighty three. It stayed number one for eight weeks,
longer than Billy Jean, longer than Yeah, there's the biggest
song of the How hard he goes on that last part.
Every breath you take, every move you make, every bond
you break, every step you take, every game you play,
every night you stay so pissed. That's the point where
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it's like And he wrote it by himself breaking Gordon Sumner,
that's a real name. I had no idea that was
really name. Yeah, And Gordon Sumner reminds me of Gordon
Shumway new Gordon Schulmway is. I don't type in Gordon
Schumways it comes up. I love. I believe that's ALF.
I don't know. Again, I'm okay with asking a question here.
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What an ALF stand for? Right? It was like life, Yeah,
Gordon Shumway is, it's ALF. It is ALF. Alf's real
name is Gordon? With you? How do you know that?
It was funny? Sometimes made myself laugh. Whatever, that's a
good reference, Mike. We can play a game like that.
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And ACRONA for alien life form. Yeah, man freaking Willie
Tanner was the dead about ALF and admitted I haven't either,
but freaking Gordon Shumway, that's awesome. That great, Mike likes that.
I happened to know Gordon, say, you checked out? Yeah,
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and I was. It was so obscure that I wasn't
better google that. How sure of that? Were you? Beast?
I like, okay, good, like I give it an on
a roll shurtness, but I went straight to ALF. I
wasn't a because that was so long ago and it
could have been mixed up over the years. Yeah, ALF
was cool because there was the show I liked ALF,
the TV show that it had a cartoon that was
pretty good and then developed late and I talked show
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for it and and they did it like on Nick
at Night, but it never really blew up. I think
they wanted to go network with it at first. Yeah,
but yeah, Alf's ALF was done um in the Air
tonight by Phil Collins. I mean, now I'm starting to
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think this is definitely about global warming and it okay.
People usually think the song is about Phil Collins seeing
a man let another man drown. What was the lyrics
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that made people think that? Mike? Oh, that one? Well,
if you told me you were drowning, I would not
lend a hand. I've seen your face before, my friend,
but I don't know if you know who I am.
Here you go, I see your face. So people thought
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this was about like you and semisonic, very simple. They
thought it was about a bar. But no, it's not.
It's really a song with no meaning. I hate that
the myth that people believe Phil Collins wrote the song
after watching a man let someone else drown. It's a
big misinterpretation because Phil Collins says it's about nothing. He
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said the song was written without any specific meaning behind it.
He drew inspiration from his recent divorce at the time,
but most of the lyrics were improvised. But that didn't
stop people from spreading one of the most famous urban
legends in music history. The legend goes that Collins wrote
the song after watching a man let someone else drown,
which was lyric well, if you were drowning, I would
not lend a hand, And according to the myth, Collins
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later found the guilty man at a concert. There's different
versions of the story too, and all of them are nutty. Well,
because when you have a song that means means nothing,
you can do that, right, Yeah, you can just say
it's about whatever. One of the versions has a friend
of Phil Collins taken the place of the drowning man,
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and another has Collins refusing to rescue a drowning man
who raped his wife. They just got more absurd as
they go. Don't go, well, it's not true. Now that's
some fiction story right there. He came back and wrote
that song. No, no, no, no, it's not true. You're
missing the whole one. Why don't we write a song
like this, Well, that's kind of nothing. That's kind of
how we write songs at the big get eddieoplay style,
eddio play chords or and I'll just start yelling a
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bunch of words to the melody and it's nothing, yes, improvised,
and then we kind of go back and adjusted to
make money out of it. Uh. Yeah. The myth has
submitted itself in popular culture and even was referenced in
Stand Eminem Stand. Yeah. You might remember these letters right
here from Eminem Standing. Go ahead. You know the song
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by Phil Collins in the Air of to Night about
that guy who could have saved that other guys drowning.
But the Bhil song at all that at it, so
we found him. That's kind of how this is. Who
could have rescued me for drowning? Now it's too late.
I'm one a thousand downars now I'm drowsy? Was allowed?
Why does Eminem say in the Air of the night,
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Because I's about to say I thought the song was
called in the Air tonight, But it's stands saying it,
so it could have been like, okay, him just getting wrong.
I thought I'd got wrong all these years. It's about
to go, Wow, breakthrough. I thought it was called in
the Air tonight. That's crazy man. Yeah, but even even
he had it wrong. Well standard. One of my favorite
bands that no longer really is a relevant band is Rim.
Oh yeah. This one goes out to the one I Love,
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goes out to another one of those songs, well multiple thing.
It's a love song obviously because it's just one so literal,
like goes out to I Love like a request. Yeah,
that's really about using someone over and over again. It
was our first hit. By the way, this is the
first r M hit. Wow TI time. This one goes
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out to the one I Love fire and it's wild
that their first hit was an eighty seven I wasn't
listening to RIM. No, I'm six or seven years old,
but there was that gap, generational gap where like like
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my brother he knew RIM, and then I liked RIM
the later Rim. Yeah, when RM hit for me, it
was losing in my religion was the big video. Yeah.
This was their first hit song in nineteen eighty seven.
It's not a love song. He describes the song as
about how people use people over and over and over
again and until this line here, a simple prop to
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occupy my time is the lyric that goes, that's what
I'm showing. Yeah, that's the one that sets it straight
right there. So what does he say? Fire? And then
what she's coming She's coming down the mountain when she
comes prettily? Oh, I never I've never heard that before. Listen, Mike,
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if you'll pause that for one second. So what they
yell in the background so faintly is fire and they
go she's coming down on her own. You'll hear it. Oh,
let me see, Mike, it's so faint. That's the first
I've ever heard that. Okay, we're gonna go back to
the beginning of the song lazy We're here. What's the
new one? Fromorrow Rampant Ramplet Years, nineteen eighty seven. You know,
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I don't. I don't know. I don't know where it is.
I don't want to miss I don't risk missing it. Wow,
I've never heard that part. So listen closely, turn it
up on the fire. I'm Mike, if you don't mind,
chime all right, here you go go shop. Listen. First,
she's coming down on her own. Check it up fire. Wait,
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it's to say the first it's the first one. It's
the one we heard earlier. Did you not rewind it?
You hear it? Downdious? Why she's coming down down? Wow, dude,
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first I've ever heard that. We listen to the song
thound a thousand up. Damn Wow, that's so cool. How
about this one Crashing to Me by Dave Matthews. Oh
my gosh, Okay, I think I know what this is about.
There's another stalker, and you should know because you're a
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Big Day fan, Huge Day and I love Dave. Shoo.
Now I mean frat girls, a sorority girls, frat guys
like this was their song. Like girls loved this song,
and people would think it's about a passionate love affair
or a love song. I gop your skirt a little
more your world to me. It's really about an next
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boyfriend peeping at a woman from a window. Yeah, because
he does say that in the verse you've got your ball,
you got it's hard. He goes right there, bones on
the bottom. I'm watching there your window, I staring you
wear nothing. That's it. These lines give it away. I
watch you there through the window and I stare at you.
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You wear nothing, but you wear it so well I'll
creep you. Huh. That was written from the point of
view from a boyfriend who wants his girlfriend bag. I
watch you there through the window, basically saying he's watching
how beautiful she is. The song is about a boyeuristic man.
Many people can see it as a love song and fail,
we'll see the trumaning behind it. On Storyteller's Dave Matthews
mentioned that the song was written from a peeping tom perspective. Wow,
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and no one ever got that before. And if that's
not enough, he says, hike up your skirt a little more,
show your world to me. But again, if you're not
being literal with it right, it could mean anything like
highyps a little more. Share world. It could be like
exposed me to different feelings and thoughts. Skirt covers one thing,
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but the skirt of the world could be a beef
skirt could be a fahita. I remember when my brother
learned this on guitar and he was so proud and
he's like, dude, sing it, you know all the words,
and we sang it. We had the whole family there,
and I was like, huck up your skirl. Oh more.
My dad was like stop that. Stop that next song
so so so me even says I'm the king of
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the castle. You heard the dirty Rascal? They scroll a
little bit more. Mike by the way Day wrote that
song by himself, But what does that mean? Crash from
me wrote by himself. These people be making so much
money solo writing these songs by David John Matthews, Sir,
crash into me? What's he meaning? Like, let's get our
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worlds together? Like but again he put our worlds together?
Is also I can't mean anything. These guys are so artistic.
Slide by the Google dolls wake up when all I'm
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no clue. People usually think it's about being in love.
It's really about unplanned pregnancy. Mhm. The song is about
dealing with an unplanned pregnancy, with lilyterrics like I want
to wake up where you are or I'll do anything
you ever dreamed to be complete. It's understandable if you
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overlook that as a song that's about pregnancy. Um oh oh,
he says, I'm gonna what Yeah, he does say I'm
gonna let it slide. Does that mean like, all right,
I'll just let this one slide. We got the baby,
We're gonna We're gonna do this. Listen to this lyrics
don't you love the life you killed? Meaning meaning like
his yes, your priest is on the phone, your father
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hit the wall, your mom disowned you, I'm planned pregnancy wow.
Or maybe he's talking about her life like like he
may have. She may have killed her own life by
being pregnant, like like not literally, like figuratively, like your
life's over now you got to raise a kid. Yeah,
the life you know you knew is done. Johnny Resnick
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explained it during a storytellers. Slide is actually about these
two Catholic teenage kids and a girlfriend gets pregnant and
they're deciding whether they should get an abortion or get
married or just go on and I don't think a
lot of people will get that. The singer described it
as a nuts so uh sad tale about some hard choices.
So I think about that pretty deeps a little ditty.
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We listened to all these songs not thinking about any
of this. American Pie by Don McClaine, I can't remember.
You'll know what this is about. That's the it's the
death of the plane crash part of it, right, So
you're right. Mostly it's it encapsulates that whole era, and
that's the sixties and that plane crash, um the fifties, fifties,
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you're right, and not even the year, but so much,
but that era. And what kind of was the exclamation
point on the end of it was the plane crash
with Richie Vallen's the Big Bop or Buddy Holly, and
it's referenced in the song. But um, I mean jam right,
jam sang and this soul be the day that and
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the day that the music died. This literally is the
day that that plane crashed with all the music in it.
But he said that the lyrics were very ambiguous, again,
which means I know what it means now, what like
um ambiguity means Yeah, it's doesn't make much sense. Can't
tell really like you don't know it could go by
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the way. Yes, people ask me if I left the
lyrics open to ambiguity. Of course, I didn't want to
make a whole series of complex statements. He put the
song's original manuscript for auction at Christie's Cologne. The songs. Oh, yeah,
I'm gonna guess it's he wrote it by himself too,
These guys a six minute song, Mike, I think seven
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is it? So? So? When he there are more people
that he's referencing, right, like when he says the gesture again,
I think it's just a time in characters, right, And
I feel like these characters are just different artists. Oh,
I never thought about that they were all specific artists.
Like I think the jesture maybe would be Bob Dylan.
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You could be honest something I don't know. Might we
do that the gesture and miss American Bob Dylan? Because
if you're write about that, you can ride about the
ones too. Yeah, Jackie nimble Jack be quick because obviously
John Lennon, Yeah, John Jack huh Don McLean wrote it
by himself. Oh, speaking of John Lennon, imagine I mean,
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I mean, we all know what this is about, right,
go ahead, imagine what the world would be like without
these certain things. Most people think that it's a song
about peace and global unity. Kind of what are you
kind of because he's just kind of saying, like, imagine
if we didn't have these people in power doing certain
things religion, politics, everything else, it's actually about Wi Fi
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dial up, AOL didn't even exist, You got me? That's funny.
It's more so because it's a slower tone. People think
it's super peaceful. It's not. It's like a song about
revolutionary ideas of how to achieve peace but doing it
through radical ways. But he was smart enough to go, well,
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if I slow it down introdud as a ballad, people
are gonna feel like I'm hugging the world more than
screaming it the Wow does he say that? I'm no,
I mean, that's not Why did he not say it
like that? Because it's true? And then us we're all
like a slow song, so I like it's peaceful. The
song is actually about the Communist manifesto. Wow, And now
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I'm reading earlier that was just me musing myself. That's
pretty good. Most people think that ballads. The ballad imagines
about pople putting aside their differences, but it's more political.
According to Rolling Stone, he once described the song as
virtually the communist manifesto. And even though I'm not particularly
a communist and do not belong to any movement, the
song clearly asked the listener to imagine a world without
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religion or possessions, but len It admitted he intentionally admitted
he intentionally tried to sugarcoat his message with the song.
The sweetness of the song, yeah, like sonic lad, it's like,
oh imagine it is a big hit almost everywhere in
a beautiful song because it's anti religious, anti nationalistic, anti conventional,
anti capitalistic, and because it's well soften. It's like honey.
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But this video is so good too. The white piano
and uh Sarah McLaughlin angel. Yeah, it's about puffieses Hi
(35:58):
fourteen ninety nine, Hi Sarah, And for the low Low
prize of two ninety nine, you can help Sparky. Yeah,
I know only has one eye, but you can help
that one eye. And it always airs like three in
the morning when everyone's drunk, like all right, here's my wallet.
This free you Sparkie. Oh crat, what did I do
(36:18):
last night? Adopted thirty dogs? Wait, what's Sparky's new eye?
What the Sarah McLaughlin got me again? Um? The song
most people thinks about angels and losing someone, it's really
about heroin addiction. Whoa yeah, More specifically the guy from
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Smashy Pumpkins who died? Really? Who was that? The keyboardist?
Oh wow, he died ninety six. And I'll read a quote.
I went to a cottage north of Montreal to relax
and write. I read about these Smashing Pumpkins keyboard player
who had odd in a hotel room. She wrote this
about a song about the drug addict struggles with the world.
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The angel symbolizes the drugs the addict gives in too
repeatedly in the arms of an angel, meaning the drugs. Yes, said.
The story shook me because although I had never done
drugs like that, I felt a flood of empathy for
him and the feeling of being lost, lonely and desperately
searching for some kind of release, and that release was drugs, or,
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as some people would have it, their angel. Wow. Crazy, right.
People use this one in like funerals, right, Like this
is kind of sure, maybe because angel is literally it's
taking the end like their little interpretation. Yes, I've never
heard in a funeral, but it will make sense. Wow,
this is I mean that changes this one. I mean
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that song is. This song has always been beautiful to me,
but it's always been like I don't know what's about pretty,
but wow, I mean I'm reading it now and like, yeah,
that's pretty deep. Spend all your time waiting for that
second chance, for a break that would make it okay.
There's always some reason to feel not good enough, and
it's hard at the end of the day. I need
some distraction. Oh, beautiful release memory seep from my veins.
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There's the hotel room too, and maybe empty, oh would
wait less and maybe I'll find some peace tonight. Wow.
Just a different feeling about it when you know you're
talking about drug addiction and drugs from this dark hole.
You're right in the chorus in the arms of an angel,
fly away from here, from this dark, cold hotel room
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and the endlessness you fear. Wow. Oh, well, another super
sad one. You think that one's gonna get you? Sarah
McLaughlin wrote that one on your own too. Maybe they're
just writing one person, but surely the next one. Don't
cry Hansen and Bob, Now what's this one about? What
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do you think it's about? I have no idea tune Bob,
And now there's more in verses that I don't remember
what they say. Most people think it's just to catchy
pop song that really means nothing. Yeah, not true. It's
really about how everything we love will be gone before
we know it. What does umbop have to do with that?
They made the word up and it really isn't made
(39:17):
up work nineteen ninety seven, they said bop represents a
frame of mind and umbop they're gone like bop, It's gone,
like who was gone? Oh? Just like that? Yeah, okay,
because Bob's a word. The whole song is about the
fact that almost everything in your life will come and
go quickly. You got to figure out what matters and
(39:39):
grab onto those things. Or they don't really love doing
that song though, No, and then they do. They do,
but they don't, like everyone has respect for that one
song that did it for them. But it's man, it's
gonna be hard when that's the one you sing all
the time. Well, they played Our Million Dollars show and
I like those guys, and I know Tyler a bit
(40:01):
Taylor Taylor, how well I know Tyler Jim And I
was thinking about having my phone as um because I
don't want to put him with Tylor Hanson. You want
to see it, Tyler Hans. It literally is so um.
Taylor had come and sat beside me and the seats
of the rhyme and was like, hey, man, can we
not do whom Bob? We'd prefer to do this other
(40:24):
song And that's a hard that's a hard question for you.
And it just comes right up to me and asked me.
And I respected that he asked me straight up. It
just didn't get on and not play it. But at
the same time, everybody came to see Bob that was
coming to that show. Is that what you told him?
I was like, man, you can play whatever else you want,
but you gotta play him Bob. Like that's it. I again,
(40:46):
you don't gotta I'm not gonna make you. Yeah, but
I can't sit here and say, you know what, go ahead,
do whatever you want. Like everyone here wants you to
play him Bob. So if I'm asking, please play him Bob.
And they did, and everybody freaking jerked their phones out
quicker than I've seen almost anybody pull their phones to
any artist. So but and it's also a super a kid.
So I'm sure they're adults and they have kids. They
(41:07):
have probably kids that are close enough. They're in right,
So we'll be like writing a song when you're fourteen
and having to sing it when you're thirty, over and over.
I remember when they committed and you told me. They're like, oh,
they're gonna do the show. And I'm like, oh, great,
so we might have to learn m bop And I
looked over the oom bob and I'm like, I'm never
gonna memorize that. Ever, you have a favorite hands the
(41:29):
song that oom bop? No no No? I like, Oh,
there's another one that I really like. It's about a girl.
Maybe that Penny and Me is a good one. Penny
of Me was really good. Did they do that on
our show? Maybe? I think they did so good? Um,
will you pull up the hands and play last night?
Penny and Me's a jam? My favorite is I Will
come to you who They're so good they are? It's
(42:00):
talented again where you played from the beginning, where you
play m I will come them? I come here. It's
to you. I will come to you. I will come
to you. Wouldn't that you know this one? This is
deep cut. This is the hands and deep cut. I
will come Nope, nope, not deep You have much to
(42:25):
go and I will come to you. Come star, come
on jam rejum for me. I will come to you.
(42:46):
I will come to you. Dreams. Well, I believe that
does it for today's show man. It's funny how you
said a lot of these stories came out of like storytellers.
They didn't bring storytellers back with like Ariana Grande and
be like Ariana, what is um when you say you
(43:09):
like my hair? Just bought it? What do you mean
by like? You know? Storytellers was huge to us and
we learned so much. And she'd be like, well, how
was it home with thirteen people? Actually I wasn't even
there and we were just thrown out words. Of course,
we made a melody. They gave us the beat and
we went and then we had to fit words over
and those twos having a fit because I remember learning
(43:32):
that like Pearl jam Eddie Vedder wrote like Betterman or
something fifteen years before the band even got together. Oh yeah, yeah,
and they'll learn that from storytellers. Well, it's like County
Crows when they were the Himalayas. I didn't know that. Hey,
will you look up to again? I could miss this
up their band, his band was the Himalayas. Yeah. Oh,
(43:53):
it could have been a different mountain range. It's been
a was it Everest? Yeah, let's see Blue Ridge because
the last thing I wanted to lead something up here.
That's wrong. But but some of those songs were even
on that record, that first record, The County Crows, Berkeley, California.
First name now type in um County Crows, um original
(44:18):
band there is there is the himalay Is round here?
Was the Himalays round here? No way? Yeah, American rock
band between ninety and ninety one. They're best known for
starting the Crew. This is that's the base. This is
the himalaya Is doing round here. Wow, that's I mean,
that's a different sound for sure. Yeah. So uh again
(44:41):
they had written that song and cut it on there.
We can do it. We can do a whole bobbycast
on this, on the counting bands that were before the band.
We just break down all of that Storytellers Live CD. Hey, um,
you know what would be fun at this point, because
a dirt used to be really famous at this point
(45:03):
because I could break it on pretty easily. Yeah, this
is it. It's about the front door, like a goo
to the fall, Professor notices. So the melody is the
same white way, which is never the same. With that darker,
you ain't get a better view of the crumbling. Also
(45:24):
wrong and right, I walk in the air. Let's me
the right, bring myself and back again. Less whiny, I
don't know. Wow, good call. Yeah, she's dying through the door.
It's a different debate. Just why. I don't know. That's
just the baseline, like litist, like the lit biscuit baseline.
(45:50):
This wouldn't admit it mean heavy electrics. You're right, it
does sound like a different fantom blue like horn niscuits. Yeah,
all right, all right. That you taught me that some
one day. Didn't know that, no clue, and that was
a Ryan knew it. So stuff just sits back here
(46:12):
sometimes and I'll just go oh, like my initial reaction
is to yell it out. It matches a lot of times,
like freaking Gordon show way some way, Mike, look that up.
It's all right, by the way, A big shout out
to Mike d who produced this entire episode, all the
clips and tons of research, so thanks to him. Your
(46:33):
family here, I have no idea. My phone's over there,
but it's raining, so they can't be at the pool.
I have no out check right now, they're probably down
watching TV. I'm started watching the show called The Boys
on Amazon. It's about it's a superhero show, but it's
like real life, meaning Israel life as you can be.
It's like these people are superheroes, but it's like the
real problem have a real like like addiction, oh wow, um,
(46:58):
like sex stuff and they live on Earth. Yeah wow,
that sounds good. It's really good. Like you're watching it
one season? Yeah, it's eight episodes. And if you haven't,
this is not a commercial. By the way, No, I
have Amazon. If you have Amazon Prime and you order stuff,
you get all the shows too, ye, which I didn't
know for a long time. I had to buy a
second separate description a way. Yes, but it also comes
with a lot of other stuff that you didn't know
(47:18):
he had, like TV stuff like golf tournaments. They're all
on there for free for for my gambling. No, if
you like golf or like your basketball games that you
normally wouldn't find. They're on there. I'm gonna go. I'm
gonna go play racquetball with Amy's husband. The big debate
was while I win, yes, you say yes, I think
you will because because he's good. He's a bigger guy,
(47:40):
and I feel like he's stronger than you. But racketball's
about but he's a bigger guy and not fat. He's
no, no no, no, he's pretty in shape. Though he flew
us this week and he had a tucked in shirt.
He did he looks good. Yeah, he looks good, but
I don't. He doesn't write like like you do the
peloton bike like Michael mccartio. But it's more than just running. Yeah,
it's fast, that's mostly what racke bullets back and forth.
(48:00):
What do you know? You gotta be able to hit it,
though he mostly Eddie's given me his prognostication on rapt
I feel like I could give you a good running
back of ball. There is no way like, not like
unless you've played those. And it's not even my athletic prowess.
It's playing the angles off the walls all the time.
I know, man, Okay, I'm got to play the game.
Cool Cool. I got ten bucks on Bobby Oh ten,
(48:21):
But would you do ten bucks at four to one odds? Yes,
meaning you would win ten dollars, but you would lose
forty I would correct. But if you bet on me,
you can win a lot more than that, but you
would lose ten win. Thanks Mike appreciated that. Check out
The Sore Losers That's Eddie Lunchbox and Raymundo's podcast. Check
out Amy's podcast Four Things with Amy Brown. Check out
(48:43):
The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson's The Lifestyle podcast about
fashion and just well being a female and living your
your best mid twenties and mid thirties life. Um Also
check out Caroline hobbies podcast called Get Real, where she
talks with a lot of the wives of country music
superstars and just really strong women in the business. By
the way, I don't know if it's up yet, but
Chris Daughtry's wife. Uh so she had a girlfriend while
(49:06):
her and Chris were together. Open. Oh really, they're married
and she had a real life, open relationship. Talks about
this on the fun h Wow, is it up yet?
It'll be up tomorrow? Oh so you're by the time
I heard this it'll probably she got to get real
with Caroline Hobby And is that at miked about to
bring out another podcast, I'll tell you who it does
off the year, but somebody really funny? Really Yeah, you
(49:27):
were saying you have a meeting with someone? We did.
It was him and his two managers? Oh cool? Who manager?
Very cool? All right? I know? All right, Thank you guys,
and we'll see you next time here. Anything you want
to say? Oh man, thanks for having me. That's fun.
Who's your favorite band of all the bands? Who's your
favorite band that morphed into County Crows? The only one
that's right? Am I missing anyone? And what is the
(49:49):
term for ambiguity? Can't tell? It could be either ambiguity,
Well that's so ambiguous if something's ambiguous, but a form
of that would be and begins ambiguity and ambiguity with
his alphural name, Gordon Lightfoot, go down on hand. It's hardest,
(50:10):
all right, by everybody,
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