February 19, 2019 • 39 mins
Gabby Barrett finished 3rd in American Idol and is now on her way into the next phase of her music career. Bobby talks to her about what it's like singing for record labels, life after American Idol and how she needs to move to Nashville to achieve her big dreams.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
See episode one sixty here with Gabby Barrett. Right before
we went on. You can ask the question the go ahead,
I said, what is the purpose of having headphones if
you just in talking into them? Mike, if you take
off your headphones and you could hear the same thing.
Now you hear that. I get it. There's music that's
accompanying our conversation. Okay, sound effects, yeah, got For example,
(00:23):
if I were to play I hope if you didn't
have headphones on, you wouldn't hear it. But because okay,
got it, they're useful. Okay, what do you wanna up? Yeah,
it's gonna flat on the top of my hair, but
it's okay. Well it's really rainy too. Is that a
thing for you? Yes, of course. I You should have
seen me running to get in here. It wasn't my house. Yes,
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this is the first I've been here. Huh. So we
met on American Idol. Yes, they brought me into the
top twenty four, to mental top twenty four, and they
brought me back again later on when it was you,
Caleb and Maddie at the end. So you made to
the top top three of last season, made to the
final show with congratulations on that thank you. But I
guess we had spent a little time together because I
(01:04):
was doing a show on Pittsburgh, a stand up show,
and you and your family came to the show. And
this is why I don't was still going, and I
really couldn't even say you were there because it was
still secret, and they wouldn't even let you get up
and saying because we were gonna do a song or that. No.
I was so bummed about that too. But yeah, I
didn't come to that show. And you put on a
great chiel. Pretty funny guy. But is that what is
that you laugh when I tell a joke. Yeah, I'm
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so curious about what happens, and I want to guess
work backwards right like today? For example, UM, today, what
did you do in town today? Today? I went to
I had phone call meetings, and I had um a
record label wating okay, without saying the name of the
record label. Yes, you went to a record label and
did what? Um? I sang some songs you did? Yes?
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I did. So describe what that's like because here you
are your new artists are do you live here yet?
Are you moving here? I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, I feel like it's not
a bad thing that I don't live here, because if
I fly down here for two weeks but then fly
back to living somewhere for free. UM, I'll take this
as of right now. If you don't live here, you'll
never make it here. You don't link to start now.
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If you make it big, you can move out, you
can go. Justin Moore does it. He lives in Arkansas,
but he was here. Zach Brown is probably the biggest example.
But again he's Zach Brown. So not that you're not
Gabby Barrett, but you're just Gabby Barrett right now. My
advice to you, I'm still mentoring it. You're ready. I
know you're eight teen, but you gotta move here. You
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have to because you have to be with everybody all
the time. You have to be writing all the time,
like every day, every night. You have to be writing.
But how do you pay your bills in your hand? Exactly?
You go and you work at tootsies, you wait tables.
There's there's no shame. You can't have shame anymore. It's
how bad do you want it? Because if you're not here,
there's gonna be so many opportunities pass you by. Someone's
gonna go we need someone tomorrow night, and you're gonna
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be in Pittsburgh's Yeah, and I'll fly down that night.
What happened? I'm telling you I've already done it before.
You haven't I have. I've taken many red eyes down
here before. Well, not the same. I'm just telling you
it's not gonna work until you come down here and work,
and then it's gonna take a while. It's gonna take
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a couple of years. Do you believe that? Yeah, yeah
I do. I'm trying to get in the door early
as early as I can. But because you're good, there's
no doubt about it. It's it's crazy to come to
a place like Nashville where everybody is so good and
you need to be around them all the time because
they'll make you better and you'll make them better and
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you'll write songs all the time. And you have Let's like,
you ever been to camp, like church camp or regular
camp or summer camp. I don't know what people go
to you have anything like that? Okay? You know how
you go in with your little group and those are
like the people and you're like, oh, that's my class
and all my mama folks, or like high school even
did you get to high school? Like everybody went to
high school? When you graduate, like at your class, you
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make those in Nashville and then as everybody rises, they
kind of pull each other up or they you know,
they helped away. The point is you have to move here.
We'll see, Okay, we'll see. Are they telling you have
to move here? Um? I actually talked to Luke Brian
about it, and he said he's the one who actually
said to me. He said, if you're coming down every
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two weeks and then go back for two weeks, he
was like, you're doing all right? And so that's what
I listened to make sixty million a year. He's completely
out of Luke moved here. He had Luke had to
move here to make it. Yeah, So anyway, I don't
want to harp on that. I actually have quite general
questions about what happened today. So tell me about today.
You go and you you're they say, hey, come play.
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Is something like your leather rubbing? What's that noise? Leather squeaking?
It's squeaking against the quarter of the headphones that make
the noises. So you go and you go to a
record label room. Who's in that room? Um, it's me,
my manager and three other people. That's it. Yes, And
they say what to you? I'm sorry, I am my
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guitar blayer okay, and they say what do what? UM?
We just started talking about what's been going on after idol,
UM and before idle and UM. We played some of
the songs that I have, some of the songs I
have in preparation to release UM as well as I hope,
and then I did some songs live so they could
hear what I sound like live and how many songs
do you play them? How many songs did I do? Three?
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And it's awkward when they're only three people watching and
they're like judging everything that you're doing, or you kind
of just getting your own space. It's definitely a challenge
for short because it's like when you have three people.
I felt like I was back on the executive rounds
on American Idol whenever the producers were in the room
and you know, there was only ten people, because it's
all eyes are on you and it's more concentrated a
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smaller group than a big crowd. It's easier to do that,
so it is, but um, I think it went well.
So were you watching their faces as you were playing? Yeah, yeah,
to see if they like the song you're not and
what they liked it? They liked it. Yeah, it's like
it's a little bit of like everything. So they were
liking it at least, I hope. So and what do
they say when you leave the room? Is that, hey,
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that was great, like generic generic? And then they go
and tell you really later how they feel or did
they give you any sort of direction. Normally you can tell, um,
because I have met with a few record labels before,
and normally you can tell if they are like feeling
it or not. Um, and their reactions seemed pretty genuine.
He was like like, basically, I'm I'm really thinking about
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being on board here. Oh yeah, so what do you
have to do next? Um? I just told them I
would continue to send them songs and content and stuff
and if they need anything for me that I'll send it.
And then you went from over there to over here. Yes,
that's pretty cool. It's a pretty cool day. You get
to a plan for a big record people, it's a
good day. So tell me about Let's go back to idle.
Let's kind of rewind a bit. So you auditioned where
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what city? Addition to Nashville? Channels say right here? Why
did you fly down here to do it? Um? Because
when the producers had contacted me to audition for the show,
they said you could choose from three places, and I
was like, yeah, Nashville is definitely a place. How did
they find you to tell you to do the show? Um?
They have producers that reach out or look on the
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internet for through YouTube and through hashtags on Instagram and
things like that, and I would always put hashtag American,
I all and stuff, and they reached out from seeing
videos on the INN. And the first time a producer
reaches out, are you going come on? You messing with me? Almost? Yeah?
Because well, when you get an email like a producer
wants to skype with you, you're like, is this spam
or is it real? So like you you don't want
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to like set yourself up, and you're like, okay, if
this is real. And then when you see them come
up on the thing and they're like, okay, we'll call
you back, You're like, oh my god, oh my gosh,
it's real. So it was really cool. So what does
the producer say to you when you get on Skype,
like I'm Gabby, I am. I think they're like saying
your name and your age, and then what are you
gonna sing for us? And you tell them what you're
gonna saying. Do you sing? And then they're like, yeah,
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I did. I did have to sing on Skype and
he was like what do you do in these days? Um?
And I was like yes because I didn't feeling he
was going to set. If he said that, then that
means he likes what he's hearing. So do you know
who it was? His name is Peter. Yes, So you
sing in front of Peter. Peter says, come to Nashville.
Did they buy your plane ticket or did you just
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get like a kind of cut pass? Did they buy
my plane ticket? I can't even I can't remember that.
I don't know if I have been because I don't.
I don't deal with any I didn't deal with at
that time. So you fly down? Do you cut the
line at all? Since they've already seen you? I was
like the first one there? Um, I remember I got
to It was at the forgetting the name of the
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Country Music the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it was there.
It was there. And I was downstairs in a lobby
at six five, and I remember, Um, I was like
the first one there, and then they all took us
upstairs and then one by one did the audition and
how to go for you? Did you feel like you
knocked it out? Um? You know you know, I mean
it didn't go the way that I thought it was
going to know, Um, why what what did you expect?
(08:54):
First of all, you expected to walk in a way? Um? Well,
I walked in and sang a country so long because
that is mainly what I love to do, UM as
my main genre. And they were kind of confused buy
it um because I did originally start in a gospel
choir R and B was originally my roots UM. And
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so they weren't very fond of the country at first.
And then so I actually got through with a gospel song,
gospel what do you sing? His Eyes on the Sparrow?
And then they said, okay, but you're a country artist.
Well actually saying, um, Carrie Underwood, uh, good Girls and
Church Bells three songs. Yeah. I had to sing to
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those two songs. And they were like, do you have
anything that's not Carrie? And I was like, um, I
have Gretchen Wilson read kneck woman, who was like, don't
like that. I was like okay. And then we were
only supposed to have three songs prepared, so whatever they
asked me to do, it was on the like on
the spot, on the fly from there. And then they
asked me to do a church song and I was like, okay,
that's the first one I'm gona do because that was
my main song when I was in the church singing
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when I was nine. So then you go back home, yeah,
and they say you get the Golden ticket or whatever.
They go to Hollywood, right, so it's gonna be a
few weeks. A month before that was like a couple
of months. It was in October, and then Hollywood Week
was in January, so you had to wait that long.
Just excited the whole time, like every day they're going,
I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait. Yeah.
I was coming up with like a blueprint in my
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head if I'm to pass this, what I'm gonna do next,
the next, the next, instead of coming up with it
while I'm there. So I did Hollywood Week this year.
I started at the beginning of the season, right, Yeah,
I um the Hollywood. We kind of a grind. Oh yeah,
that's the toughest week. The overnight happen to get in
the groups. Even I was feeling bad for the kids. Um,
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you know, you know, you know, you've watched the TV.
It looks fun and it was right, It still was fun,
but these kids were getting in groups and fighting with
each other and they were all sleep deprived. No, it's
a difficult week. I remember going through that week and
I was like, well, shoot, like this is hard. I mean,
but but it was fun too because I'm a person
that likes to challenge myself on literally everything. So something's
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a chat orange to me, I'm like, let's go, let's go. Um,
And so that week is too. It separates the week
from the strong. Honestly, who cracks and who doesn't and
who's ready to go on with the competition because the
competition is not easy. It's not easy at all. So um,
whoever can outlast longest? So you do the group, then
you it's solo and group. You move on to the
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top twenty four. And then that's where I came in,
And I guess I met you for the first time.
I remember what I don't I'm trying to think if
I can remember what you were wearing. I remember what
I don't remember what I was wearing. They just give
me I want to pick out my clothes and then
I just put them on. Those producers, Pepper, you with
so many questions all the time now, like they just
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and they brought me in to not be a producer, right,
to be a human. You guys could actually talk to it,
and I'd be like, well, I'm a human too, let
me I understand this. But man, I would want those
producers and all and they're all black. You get behind
the camera and they just like a thousand questions you
guys all the time? Yeah, they do, they always, I mean,
just to get every single possible answer. I guess out
of us that they can, because sometimes it's hard to
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get answers out when you're excited about something. What was
your storyline? My storyline on American I don't like, what
were they highlighting about you? Because everybody kind of has
a story, right, Yeah, your dad was there a lot
because you're you're underage mine or as they called him,
and so your family was there. Yeah, that was my
main story. Um, I'm just extremely close with my dad.
One of eight. Um, I was always a daddy's girl
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growing up, and so he you know, even before American
and I don't when I started when I started singing
at nine in the choir, and then eleven I did
my first show all the way up to seventeen, and
at seventeen years old, before I know, I did a
hundred and thirties six shows that year alone. So I
mean doing shows in the gospel choir or just playing yourself,
no myself. So like I was with the gospel choir
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from nine to eleven, and then eleven I left the
gospel choir and started doing shows, doing the anthem for
the Pirate of Steelers, just different stuff all the way up.
So it was like a grind for six years. So
you're saying the anthem of the Pirates is the pretty cool. Yeah,
the Pirates steeling the Steelers will be a bigger thing.
It's more concentrated in one game. Yeah, nerve wracking. You
see the anthem And it was the hinesvilld Um Yeah
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it was Hinsfeld No, because it was a bigger crowd.
Because it's like bigger you can't see like eyes on you.
I just I got more of adrenaline rush from that
and rather than nerves you ever mess up? Um in general?
No singing the anthem, No, thankfully not yet, hopefully not
at all, but um, I actually have to sing the
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anthem coming up soon in March sometimes for a basketball game.
How old you be the first time you're sanging on
a big stage? Um? The first time I sang ever
anthem for the Pirates? Really, were you freaked out at all?
You know what? You know what freaked me out a
little bit. Wasn't the people. It was the delay of
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the mic in the stadium, because you'll do this and
then this comes over the top of you like a
second later, a whole second, and me, being twelve years old,
I just started never experience out before. I was like,
what the heck? Um? But I still like managed to
get through it. Um. But that was difficult because some
stadiums give you ears that you can turn up a
pack and you don't hear that. They didn't, so I
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What is that Starbucks? Well, yeah, I know it's Strawberry
ASA or a fresh start? Is that your drink? I
don't drink coffee. I don't like coffee. I'm not a
coffee When I was going to Dance with the Stars,
I drink coffee it a little bit because it was
that's all they had and I was exhausted all the time.
But it's never good. Yeah it's bitter. Yeah, I'm not
a fan of that. But that I started drinking too
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much sugar with that. But you're eight teen, who cares? Right?
My metabolicalism is very fast. I was in Chicago, I think,
and you were opening up for Chris Lane when I
was on Stars where you playing Joe's Yeah, I did.
How's that going? Really good? Chris Line's tour was absolutely amazing.
He's amazing though, I mean, like he I can't I
can't say thank you to him enough because he brought
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me unto the tour with him and was so unbelievably
nice and still is like to this day, we're friends.
Down it's it's just really cool to see somebody help
you up and pick you up without looking for something
in return, because it's very hard to find, and this
especially in this music industry, to find somebody that wants
to help you without asking for something in return. And
he is one of those people and I know that. Um,
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you know I'll be friends with him for a long time.
So he's great and it went good. He tell you
to move to Nashville is the only way to make it.
He did not. He did it all right. So you
go and idle you. They're all whittling down. One goes down,
one goes home, one goes home, one goes home. It's
about the top five or so. Did you feel like
you were the favorite? The favorite? Because I felt like
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you were the favorite. I felt like not the favorite
of the people, but I felt like you had the
best shot to win at about the top five, almost
like I think you got the best shot to win
the show. You did you feel that way? Um? I
was confident. I wanted to win, that's for sure. I
knew since I got to that spot, I was like,
all right, I'm gonna hit it even harder like each time,
especially as the numbers were bendling down. So, um, I
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was just really grateful, very thankful, And every time the
cuts came, I was just I had to be accepting
if I were to get eliminated, because I was just
very thankful to have made it that far. Already get
to the final. Yeah, final show. There's three of you
left going into that show. Did you feel like, all right,
I can I can do this. I'm gonna win this thing.
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Were you feeling confident? Um? Yes, what the performances? Yes,
but I could tell you right now whenever me, Maddie
and Caleb were standing there and Ryan Seacrest said, UM,
din't like the second they said or he said Caleb's name,
I knew for a fact I was not getting through
because I'm saying Caleb. I knew something told me that
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Maddie was getting through. And when they said Caleb, I
freaking knew it. I was like, no way I'm getting through.
No way I'm getting through. That's why I mean it
was so I was. I accepted the fact before they
even said her name, because I just knew something you
got tells you saw. But I was okay with everything.
What happens after idol is over? The next day idols over?
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What do you do the next day idols over? Um?
We had to do a bunch of press and interviews
on the just the whole competition in general, and how
we took everything. Does it suck to lose and have
to go be interviewed. Are you more so happy that
of the experience, like really the next day, yeah, I
was happy. Of course, you're sad that you lost, because
when you set yourself up for something for so long.
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I mean, this was months upon months, um, that you
worked and you were so busy every single second, so
focused on something. So of course it sucks that you lose,
because everybody you know once that winning spot. Um. But
I again, I accepted the fact that it's okay, and
that was all part of the plan for me. So um,
And I'm really glad that Klea and Maddie you know,
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got first and second place. They absolutely deserve it. They're amazing,
amazing singers, amazing people, so you know, and especially as
the numbers doing down, as you said, Um, you get
really close to people and it's not even almost a
competition anymore. It's you're happy to see if somebody succeeds whatever.
I wouldn't be listen. There were four Dance with the
Stars and I was like, I better win this freaking thing.
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I didn't think I was going to, but I I didn't
give a crap. Were you close with any of the other. Yeah,
I liked everybody, but when it's time to compete, when
it's not how to compete, it's well, I like Milo
and I, Um, we're as close as we could because
Milo is your age. Um, but he was really good.
Um Ivana from Harry Potter with her and I got
closer to the end, but Alexis Rand and I weren't
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that close. Um so but really, who cares who I
was competing? Who gives a crap about the other people?
Like all week long we were cool and Milan I
was super cool. But but then when it's the game
time one, I don't want to lose. And if I lose,
I'm gonna want to eat my kidney. I would be
still so. But um, you're good for you. You're more
mature than I am. Apparently, Oh no, thank you. I'm
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I hate losing. I have a problem losing. Um, if
you're already complex, don't worry one day. One day you'll
have to go to therapist and it all come out. Yeah,
it all come out. You're still young. Wait for don manifest. Okay,
just come back. So you go home? When do you
go home? How many days after idols over um idol
ended one of May. That was when the finale was
twenty second. We did all the press the next day
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after that we went back. So what's it like when
you go home? It's weird. I mean, it's so weird
because you're so used again being in this like this
different world literally Idols a different world. It's it's a flip.
It's a flip of what your life has been. Um,
you're constantly working, constantly emotional, like it's insane. So going
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home and like you already know the answers to everything
when with Idol like that you were curious about the
entire time. It's like so weird. But then we had
to prep for the Idol tour. Oh then you had
to go to tour. Yeah. Yeah, so it wasn't all
the way over because the show was over, but then
you had more work to do for Idle. Yeah. They
pay you guys, good, m decent enough to you. It
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was cool, I guess. Yeah, Like when I did dance
with the Star Store, they paid me like thousand bucks
a night. I think it's what it was. Really you
guys weren't that much A thousand but oh heck it
was ten tho dollars a week and if you did
a full week, oh my gosh, I think that's a
lot or something like that. Well, yeah, but I only
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I only did one week. I mean, I don't know
if that's a lot, like four days, but I just
wanted it was an idol tour like that. No it wasn't.
I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know
if no, no, it wasn't. Um yeah, no, I'm not
an expert on the whole money thing, but I know
that it wasn't like ten thou dollars. I didn't. I'm
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just being like some people. I don't think that. I
don't think I made as much as a dancer, the
pro dancers. Yeah, I think because we were working in shorts.
Short but I'd still take that. Well yeah, that's and
I did it that I didn't have to the tour,
and I was like, yeah, absolutely, look it up right, Okay,
so you go, did you save your money? Did I
save it from the tour? Um all that jacket? No,
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you know what I had to do. You have to pay.
This is a whole thing with the music industry. You
have to pay towards all of your music stuff because
this is very expensive. So on a tour. You have
to put money down on a tour for and that's
what I did. So, yeah, I did save it from
the audit tour and then I ended up putting it
on the next tour that I went on right after
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the American audit tour was over. Now did you make
money back on that tour? Um? I think so. Marchandise, Ye,
you start. You need to start figuring this stuff out.
You got a business You have a business manager? Yet? Yes?
I do? All right, you have a good one, yeah,
because that's a good one. That for me was tough.
I don't understand the business manager stuff. Now I do
because I like to understand everything. Yeah, I'm not going
to have a manager. Do I have a manager? Yeah?
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Sitting right there all right, just making sure he's sitting
across the room. Do you know the percentage that he gets? Um? No,
I feel like I don't know it. But I don't know.
Spit it out. What do you think it is? I
don't know? Is it like five, ten, fifteen? What is that?
If it's five? We need to talk because I need
I need to redo my deal. I can't if you're
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clising me on all this math. And I failed geome
my school. This isn't. This isn't. I have people that
handle that I can't. Don't first of all, never be
that person. But it's my dad, So I can trust
my dad absolutely. Well sometimes no, yes, there's been a
lot of stories about dad's Okay, well not my dad.
And here's my advice to you. Ready, I'm gonna continue
my mentorship because I'm listen, I'm in the business too,
right in your full you're like full time on this season, right, Yeah,
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I just talk. I'm talking about music again. You just
you don't have to know everything's coming in and out
when you're so busy, right, you have people to do that,
but you need to know what percentages you're paying people. Okay,
I'll pay attention to it more, just even in your phone,
like you need to know. Okaycent goes to my manager.
I don't know what yours is. What yours is? Yeah,
goes to the agent. I don't know what you're is,
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but that's mine. Okay, you know five percent goes to
your business manager. Okay, so I think that's I know
that one. Yeah, it sucks because all your money is gone.
You make it, you make a dollar, and you know
forty cents. But the good news is is that they're
worth more than that forty cents, so it's actually a
really good investment. But you just need to know that
stuff just so much. Someone asked you, what do you
pay your manager that you don't look like a du fist?
Because I used to be the dupist, because like, what
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do you pay a manager? I don't know one? Dang?
All right, that's note number two. Alright to things we've
learned before. One, you have to move to Nashville to
make it to you to know your percentages my others
only ever one I've done when I'm like tutoring the
PERSI during it. Okay, back to you. So you decide
what do you decide your home? And you're like, I
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think I want to make a run in music, like
in country music, or do you go I don't want
to try go to college? Like what what's the now?
A terrible idea? No, I knew that. I knew I
wasn't going to college before I did American Idol, because
me and my dad had talked about that. I told him,
I said, this is plan A and plan B. What
was planning and plane B? To make it in music, okay,
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and just this was it. This is what I wanted
to do for the rest of my life. Um and
so even after American, I don't I knew already what
who I wanted to be like as an artist. That
was something that even but going through American I will
definitely reassured me of that, which is country. Um, I
always help people. I wanted to be the Whitney Houston
country music so and that's what I do want to be.
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So we'll say that happens. How many labels have been
saying in front of labels, Um, probably I'd say like
five or six. Have you had some bad, bad ones
where you go, oh, that one didn't go so well,
not that I recall, thankfully, Have you had something better
than others? We're like, oh, for sure, they want me
to sign with them. Yeah, it depends. I mean it
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also depends on the person's mood of the day. Like
they could be having a bad day and you know
they're not in a good mood. So it just depends
on the day. Are you recording music right now? Yes? Really, yes,
I've been working so hard on music since last year,
since right after I got off the Chris Lane tour. Well, actually,
in between the American Idol tour, UM, I talked to
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Carrie under One on the phone. I called her because
she after American Idol. UM, I'm just saying, go ahead,
oh please your context in your phone. After American Idol,
she reached out to me and said, you know, like
if you need any help with anything or I'm here
for you. She gave me a number. I called her. UM.
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We talked a few times, and I just asked her.
I was like, what did you do after American Idol
to keep your my lad I'm going. She was like,
I would just constantly work. Um, Like while I was
on the American Idol tour, I would constantly work. And
I said, Okay, that's what I'm gonna do. Um. So
during the American Ado tour, we would have like four shows,
five shows in a row. Show show, show, show, show.
We have one day off. I would fly here, record
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and write, fly back the next day and do the show.
So I mean like any day that I have off,
I'm doing something. Always music that's good. I like that.
At about you think that's something you really can't teach
a work ethic and if you were doing that, that's good.
You kind of taking the day off and just chilled. Yeah,
but there's I think of it as like how many
people want the same thing and what separates you from
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other people? Though, Listen, this is what you're coming into
a Nashville. Everybody's really freaking good. Everybody is really good.
What separates you is the amount of work you put
into it. It's like the NFL. The the line between
super athletic and super super atletic is so thin. It's
the people who put in the work. But that's good.
I don't know you were doing that. I commend to
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you get you get a ribbon after this is over
for all right for doing that the song here? Uh?
I hope you wrote with John Knight. That's how did
you get that? Right? Um? Through a great man? Okay,
because I was like, damn, look at that. You're already
writing with like cool big songwriters. Yeah, they're really They're
really cool. I've gotten to write with a few co
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you wrote the song with the Zachary on John Knight.
I'm gonna play a little bit of I Hope Here
we Go, produced by Ross Cooperman. Yeah, whoo whoo, come on,
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I can't even get these people in the room with me. Hi,
you you come in tally work with the biggest and
the best Already, I'm very blessed. Yeah, so what do
you what's the light getting in room with those guys?
What do you do in the writing room? You walk in,
You're like, hey, I'm dabbing Barrett. Yeah, um yeah, I
just make sure like everybody's comfortable. I feel like that's
such an important thing because when you're uncomfortable and like
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I don't know, things just don't click very well and
you don't connect and you don't come up necessarily with
a good song. And they're the best song that you
come up with. So anytime I get into a room,
I just want to keep writing songs that could blow up. Um.
And so we got in that room with John Knight
and Zach Kale love them both. Um. We got in
the room that day. It was on Halloween, um of
last year, and we got on the room. We were
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trying to figure out what we were going to write about.
And I was like, let's write a relationship song. They're like, okay,
let's start a song about a guy and a girl.
You know, they don't work out, but the girl still
kind of wishes him well, and I was like, that
is not how a girl's think towards Like when a
guy does this wrong, we don't go. You know, I
wish you will. We're like, I hope everything bad happens
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to you. I hope you get cheated on literally the
worst thing. I know it sounds rough, but that's how
girls are. When you do us wrong, that's why you
don't do it's wrong. So I wanted to write a
song that was like, that was the song that females
never got to say to that person, so that when
they hear it, they can dedicate it to that that
type of person. Um words that you know they never
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got to say, but they really did feel. M it's
pretty cool he switched up like that. Yeah, get all
that happened to you? Uh. Yeah, I've been in a
bed relationship before, so I understand and can relate to
girls that have to Who else have you written with
this school? I've written to list them. I'll give me
a couple though. Um David Garcia, Josh Miller, um, uh,
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Zach Kale, John Knight, Ross Copperman, Um, Josh Ker. Oh yeah,
that's like heavy hitters. Man. Damn, your people must think
you're pretty good. If they're getting in right with you,
that's a good thank you, That is a good thing.
So okay, so you're here today, Yes, then what happens
did you play tomorrow? Do you go back home for
like eight months and then come back for another day
or what? Go home for eight months? Come on now now? Um?
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No tomorrow, I um, I'm trying to think on my um. Tomorrow,
I have a writing session actually with Zach Kale and
two others from eleven three, and then I have to
record downos on another song that I did. So you
get a lot of work done while you're here, absolutely, yeah,
stacked schedule Your dad here, yeah, even though you're eighteen,
he's here. Yeah, because you can't like, he doesn't want
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to leave me by myself. You can have one a
girl and an eighteen year old girl wondering around. Yeah,
but if you had a daughter that was eighteen, would
you want to buy yourself down here? Oh? I mean
I'd like a girlfriend much less a daughter. All right,
I'm saying. If I'm saying, if I think if she
was like, I'm gonna go pursue something in college, same
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thing if you went to college. He's not with you
I remember having this conversation with you while we're on idol. Yeah.
I was like, eventually you gotta cut the court. Remember
that conversation. Yeah, Okay, you don't have to do anything.
I know, but he's just he's very loyal to me,
and so I believe that I'm supposed to be loyal
back towards him. I like him. He's a good dude.
He's great. I like hanging out with him. What do
you think about all this? Um, he's loving watching it.
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I mean he's been a part of it with me
since I was just started. He's the reason why I
even I am where I am, honestly, because he's just
been my rock and my support system through it all.
He's the one that's given money to get me two shows.
He's the one that's given his time. He's the one
that's not everything. So I wouldn't be here without him,
and he is really my main support system. So he's
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just enjoying everything. I just give you a hard time
because I like you. You You know that, right? That's sweet? Thanks? Thanks?
Love hate relationship, No, there's no hate. There's no Are
you still dating the long hair dude? Yeah? Kate? Where's
he lived? Texas still. Did you guy see each other ever? Yeah,
but I just saw him not that long ago. Have
you ever come to town? Um? Yeah, we actually come
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quite often together and we do our own stuff. Did
your dad go on your dates with you? Good for that?
How's that going you guys? Good? It's really good coming
up on a year. So yeah, yep. And Ryan Seacrest
out at us in front of everybody. We were the
first American Idol couple. Actually, some people think like, oh,
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Mannie Caleb were the first, but with the first, okay,
so how did that happen? You go on the show,
You keep it quiet from the producers at first that
you guys kind of like each other. Yes, and then
the producers literally just ask you every possible question they
can and scant what's been going on? And then told
I guess they told Ryan Secrest and he outed it
because I had no idea when he performed, and they like,
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he did the whole reveal of everything. I was backstage like,
oh no, oh, you didn't know it's coming. No, because
we separated relationship from business, we were like, we're not
gonna we're not gonna put this on the television because
we came here to win the competition. We didn't come
to have the bachelorette on UM so because we knew
you know, we knew of Maddie and Caleb too, so
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we'd always like go out together. So it was just
funny how everything unwinded though. You try to keep a secret,
did I try? They everybody tries right to. Of course
you keep it on the d L. It's it's crazy
the minors they call them on American Idol. You guys
had your own schedule. Yeah, you had to go first
because you couldn't do you can do the long hours, right.
That would be pretty cool to be like seventeen and
a half and do Idol and not eighteen, right because
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you get all the provincial treamment. Yeah, it was interesting
you know now that Yeah, you're pointing that out. I
mean in the beginning because I turned eighteen while on
the show, So from the beginning, Yeah, during all the
hard parts where people had to like stay super duper long,
I got to go back UM. But then like on
the right timing, I turned eighteen, So it's like it
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all worked. It was really cool. Did you get nervous
on the live shows? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I when
I first started, like, I was very fortunate not to
get nerves around anybody that I said, but American I
absolutely was definitely a challenge because it's like you've so
many people telling you, like, look at the camera, look
at this, pay attention to this, do this, do this,
(34:29):
do this, and there's a camera with a red dot.
When you see the red dot come up, there's sixty
million people watching you. Don't mess up. There's three celebrities
that you didn't even think we're human beings also watching
you and critiquing what you're doing. Don't mess up. It's like, yeah,
so it's kind of hard. And then once you get
yourself into that mode, it is so hard to get
out of. It's like an avalanche, Like it's a snowball.
Don't get nervous, don't and nervous you get more nervous.
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So it was a challenge. I had to keep going
back and forth with myself. Do you watch your social
media the whole time? Did I watch my social media? Yeah?
It was crazy to see everything want to grow. Yeah,
it was awesome, and it's really nice that they stuck
with me. Yeah, even after American Idol, it's really really nice.
Like with I hope seeing that, you know, just from
a straight fan base, it's shot to fourteen on iTunes
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was crazy to me, didn't that means? That just showed me, like,
while these people are really sticking with me even after
American Idol, which means a lot. So they're probably all listening. Now, Hey,
what do you want to say to them? I love
you guys so much. You have no idea. Thank you
so much to everybody that supported me, because you have
no idea what it means to me, and I wouldn't
be here without you. It's really all about you guys. Um,
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anytime I perform, it's about everybody else, not yourself. So um,
just thank you so much and we're gonna do it together.
Keep climbing Garden in two years. That's what you used
to say. That's what you would say that you've moved.
We talked to here because it was three but now
it's two thousand nineteen, so it's too Yeah, you would say,
I'm gonna play Madison Square Garden went headline in three years. Yeah,
(35:56):
you have two years now, that's the goal? Ye, what
is it? Goal? What do you want to do? Like
if we're back here at my house in a year
and we're in front of the microphones. Where do you
want to be? Where do I want to be? Um?
I want too. I think it would be so cool
to be my ear I have an earring. Do you
have an ear ring or your ache? I have an
ear ring? Hearing in and it's like pressing against earring.
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But it's okay, it's okay, beauty Spain, um and okay.
Next year, I would like to be nominated for um
A c m A Award. Yeah, I think that would
be really really cool. That would be really cool. I'd
like to be nominated for c m A Awards. I
think that'd be really cool. That's a goal of mine
for sure. With that's why I'm trying to make the
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best of best songs. You know what you don't like
about you? You have no shortness. There's no short of
confidence with you, which you have to have. You have
to you have to have so much confidence to be
here all the time. You have to be so sure
of yourself. And then your goals are super high, which
is great and people may look at you and go, gab,
you're crazy. But the crazy ones are the ones that
are just crazy enough to make it. Yeah, because I'm nuts.
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I've always been told all your nuts, your goals, you
need to be big. Yeah, you know, if you don't
have goals for yourself, nobody else will go bigger go home. No,
don't go home, But you gotta go big, go big.
I mean, if you're not going big, what's what are
you doing? Well? You learn when it doesn't go right
and you keep going big, don't go home. Okay, don't
pack up your grab and go home. I mean unless
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you're living in Nashville and then go back. Okay, all right, listen,
it's been good to see you. We did how long?
Half an hour? Did half? Half an hour? Interview? How
you feel about it? Good? I haven't seen you know
what I've seen you since the finale, you know. I
just said that to my manager coming in. I was like,
how's at your door? And I was like, oh my god,
I would see if this American idol? This is so weird.
(37:46):
So I'm growing so much. I'm a lot taller. Yeah,
you look a lot different. I was under my house
but before you got everying to catch a cat, a
cat that was under my house, and I was crawling
in the crawl space and I got I got it out.
He did. Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah, it out right on
the other side of the outside. I know you think, well, fancy, Bobby. No,
you know who gets his own cat front of the house. Me.
There was no butler that does that? I do that. Yeah,
(38:10):
there's no Butler. No, No, Mike is the closest thing yet. Listen,
it's good to see at Gabby Barrett underscore. Right g
A B B Y B A R R E T
T underscore underscore? Why the underscore to someone already have
Gabby Barrett and you can't buy it from them? Did
you try? Now? I tried. They won't tell me. Bobby Bones,
why don't you try to buy to Gay Barrett. I'm
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gonna look into it. I have never tried that yet.
So we'll say, all that money you got from the
Idol tour, Yeah yeah, but does an underscore really make
like a huge difference? Well, yeah, it's just easier to
go at Gabby Barrett than the underscore. That's right after it.
All right, I've had enough of you, alright, I'm just kinished.
In a year come back, we'll talk about your or
a c M nomination. All right, it sounds like, let's
(38:54):
see you by the way. You have you know, I
forgot to bring up you have seven brothers sisters, right, yes,
because you brought like half of them to the show. Yes, yeah,
And I was like, yeah, yeah, like we got all
these kids absolutely folks. Yeah, because I was I'm a
big fan of you, so I was like, you guys
have to come. We all are big fans of you.
We all would listen to you. So it was really
cool and it's really cool to being back here. So
thank you very much. Yeah, all right, Gabby Barrett, there
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we go. We'll see you soon. Alright, I check out,
I hope, and you're gonna put other music out. I assuming, yes,
music coming. Very not your last song ever, you're saying
within the next few weeks you'll hear a new song.
All right. There we go, gat Bart Everybody, Episode sixt
See episode one sixty here with Gabby Barrett. Right before
we went on. You can ask the question the go ahead,
I said, what is the purpose of having headphones if
you just in talking into them? Mike, if you take
off your headphones and you could hear the same thing.
Now you hear that. I get it. There's music that's
accompanying our conversation. Okay, sound effects, yeah, got For example,
(00:23):
if I were to play I hope if you didn't
have headphones on, you wouldn't hear it. But because okay,
got it, they're useful. Okay, what do you wanna up? Yeah,
it's gonna flat on the top of my hair, but
it's okay. Well it's really rainy too. Is that a
thing for you? Yes, of course. I You should have
seen me running to get in here. It wasn't my house. Yes,
(00:43):
this is the first I've been here. Huh. So we
met on American Idol. Yes, they brought me into the
top twenty four, to mental top twenty four, and they
brought me back again later on when it was you,
Caleb and Maddie at the end. So you made to
the top top three of last season, made to the
final show with congratulations on that thank you. But I
guess we had spent a little time together because I
(01:04):
was doing a show on Pittsburgh, a stand up show,
and you and your family came to the show. And
this is why I don't was still going, and I
really couldn't even say you were there because it was
still secret, and they wouldn't even let you get up
and saying because we were gonna do a song or that. No.
I was so bummed about that too. But yeah, I
didn't come to that show. And you put on a
great chiel. Pretty funny guy. But is that what is
that you laugh when I tell a joke. Yeah, I'm
(01:26):
so curious about what happens, and I want to guess
work backwards right like today? For example, UM, today, what
did you do in town today? Today? I went to
I had phone call meetings, and I had um a
record label wating okay, without saying the name of the
record label. Yes, you went to a record label and
did what? Um? I sang some songs you did? Yes?
(01:49):
I did. So describe what that's like because here you
are your new artists are do you live here yet?
Are you moving here? I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, I feel like it's not
a bad thing that I don't live here, because if
I fly down here for two weeks but then fly
back to living somewhere for free. UM, I'll take this
as of right now. If you don't live here, you'll
never make it here. You don't link to start now.
(02:11):
If you make it big, you can move out, you
can go. Justin Moore does it. He lives in Arkansas,
but he was here. Zach Brown is probably the biggest example.
But again he's Zach Brown. So not that you're not
Gabby Barrett, but you're just Gabby Barrett right now. My
advice to you, I'm still mentoring it. You're ready. I
know you're eight teen, but you gotta move here. You
(02:32):
have to because you have to be with everybody all
the time. You have to be writing all the time,
like every day, every night. You have to be writing.
But how do you pay your bills in your hand? Exactly?
You go and you work at tootsies, you wait tables.
There's there's no shame. You can't have shame anymore. It's
how bad do you want it? Because if you're not here,
there's gonna be so many opportunities pass you by. Someone's
gonna go we need someone tomorrow night, and you're gonna
(02:52):
be in Pittsburgh's Yeah, and I'll fly down that night.
What happened? I'm telling you I've already done it before.
You haven't I have. I've taken many red eyes down
here before. Well, not the same. I'm just telling you
it's not gonna work until you come down here and work,
and then it's gonna take a while. It's gonna take
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a couple of years. Do you believe that? Yeah, yeah
I do. I'm trying to get in the door early
as early as I can. But because you're good, there's
no doubt about it. It's it's crazy to come to
a place like Nashville where everybody is so good and
you need to be around them all the time because
they'll make you better and you'll make them better and
(03:33):
you'll write songs all the time. And you have Let's like,
you ever been to camp, like church camp or regular
camp or summer camp. I don't know what people go
to you have anything like that? Okay? You know how
you go in with your little group and those are
like the people and you're like, oh, that's my class
and all my mama folks, or like high school even
did you get to high school? Like everybody went to
high school? When you graduate, like at your class, you
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make those in Nashville and then as everybody rises, they
kind of pull each other up or they you know,
they helped away. The point is you have to move here.
We'll see, Okay, we'll see. Are they telling you have
to move here? Um? I actually talked to Luke Brian
about it, and he said he's the one who actually
said to me. He said, if you're coming down every
(04:14):
two weeks and then go back for two weeks, he
was like, you're doing all right? And so that's what
I listened to make sixty million a year. He's completely
out of Luke moved here. He had Luke had to
move here to make it. Yeah, So anyway, I don't
want to harp on that. I actually have quite general
questions about what happened today. So tell me about today.
You go and you you're they say, hey, come play.
(04:36):
Is something like your leather rubbing? What's that noise? Leather squeaking?
It's squeaking against the quarter of the headphones that make
the noises. So you go and you go to a
record label room. Who's in that room? Um, it's me,
my manager and three other people. That's it. Yes, And
they say what to you? I'm sorry, I am my
(04:56):
guitar blayer okay, and they say what do what? UM?
We just started talking about what's been going on after idol,
UM and before idle and UM. We played some of
the songs that I have, some of the songs I
have in preparation to release UM as well as I hope,
and then I did some songs live so they could
hear what I sound like live and how many songs
do you play them? How many songs did I do? Three?
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And it's awkward when they're only three people watching and
they're like judging everything that you're doing, or you kind
of just getting your own space. It's definitely a challenge
for short because it's like when you have three people.
I felt like I was back on the executive rounds
on American Idol whenever the producers were in the room
and you know, there was only ten people, because it's
all eyes are on you and it's more concentrated a
(05:39):
smaller group than a big crowd. It's easier to do that,
so it is, but um, I think it went well.
So were you watching their faces as you were playing? Yeah, yeah,
to see if they like the song you're not and
what they liked it? They liked it. Yeah, it's like
it's a little bit of like everything. So they were
liking it at least, I hope. So and what do
they say when you leave the room? Is that, hey,
(06:00):
that was great, like generic generic? And then they go
and tell you really later how they feel or did
they give you any sort of direction. Normally you can tell, um,
because I have met with a few record labels before,
and normally you can tell if they are like feeling
it or not. Um, and their reactions seemed pretty genuine.
He was like like, basically, I'm I'm really thinking about
(06:22):
being on board here. Oh yeah, so what do you
have to do next? Um? I just told them I
would continue to send them songs and content and stuff
and if they need anything for me that I'll send it.
And then you went from over there to over here. Yes,
that's pretty cool. It's a pretty cool day. You get
to a plan for a big record people, it's a
good day. So tell me about Let's go back to idle.
Let's kind of rewind a bit. So you auditioned where
(06:45):
what city? Addition to Nashville? Channels say right here? Why
did you fly down here to do it? Um? Because
when the producers had contacted me to audition for the show,
they said you could choose from three places, and I
was like, yeah, Nashville is definitely a place. How did
they find you to tell you to do the show? Um?
They have producers that reach out or look on the
(07:06):
internet for through YouTube and through hashtags on Instagram and
things like that, and I would always put hashtag American,
I all and stuff, and they reached out from seeing
videos on the INN. And the first time a producer
reaches out, are you going come on? You messing with me? Almost? Yeah?
Because well, when you get an email like a producer
wants to skype with you, you're like, is this spam
or is it real? So like you you don't want
(07:29):
to like set yourself up, and you're like, okay, if
this is real. And then when you see them come
up on the thing and they're like, okay, we'll call
you back, You're like, oh my god, oh my gosh,
it's real. So it was really cool. So what does
the producer say to you when you get on Skype,
like I'm Gabby, I am. I think they're like saying
your name and your age, and then what are you
gonna sing for us? And you tell them what you're
gonna saying. Do you sing? And then they're like, yeah,
(07:50):
I did. I did have to sing on Skype and
he was like what do you do in these days? Um?
And I was like yes because I didn't feeling he
was going to set. If he said that, then that
means he likes what he's hearing. So do you know
who it was? His name is Peter. Yes, So you
sing in front of Peter. Peter says, come to Nashville.
Did they buy your plane ticket or did you just
(08:10):
get like a kind of cut pass? Did they buy
my plane ticket? I can't even I can't remember that.
I don't know if I have been because I don't.
I don't deal with any I didn't deal with at
that time. So you fly down? Do you cut the
line at all? Since they've already seen you? I was
like the first one there? Um, I remember I got
to It was at the forgetting the name of the
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Country Music the Hall of Fame. Yeah, it was there.
It was there. And I was downstairs in a lobby
at six five, and I remember, Um, I was like
the first one there, and then they all took us
upstairs and then one by one did the audition and
how to go for you? Did you feel like you
knocked it out? Um? You know you know, I mean
it didn't go the way that I thought it was
going to know, Um, why what what did you expect?
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First of all, you expected to walk in a way? Um? Well,
I walked in and sang a country so long because
that is mainly what I love to do, UM as
my main genre. And they were kind of confused buy
it um because I did originally start in a gospel
choir R and B was originally my roots UM. And
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so they weren't very fond of the country at first.
And then so I actually got through with a gospel song,
gospel what do you sing? His Eyes on the Sparrow?
And then they said, okay, but you're a country artist.
Well actually saying, um, Carrie Underwood, uh, good Girls and
Church Bells three songs. Yeah. I had to sing to
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those two songs. And they were like, do you have
anything that's not Carrie? And I was like, um, I
have Gretchen Wilson read kneck woman, who was like, don't
like that. I was like okay. And then we were
only supposed to have three songs prepared, so whatever they
asked me to do, it was on the like on
the spot, on the fly from there. And then they
asked me to do a church song and I was like, okay,
that's the first one I'm gona do because that was
my main song when I was in the church singing
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when I was nine. So then you go back home, yeah,
and they say you get the Golden ticket or whatever.
They go to Hollywood, right, so it's gonna be a
few weeks. A month before that was like a couple
of months. It was in October, and then Hollywood Week
was in January, so you had to wait that long.
Just excited the whole time, like every day they're going,
I can't wait, I can't wait, I can't wait. Yeah.
I was coming up with like a blueprint in my
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head if I'm to pass this, what I'm gonna do next,
the next, the next, instead of coming up with it
while I'm there. So I did Hollywood Week this year.
I started at the beginning of the season, right, Yeah,
I um the Hollywood. We kind of a grind. Oh yeah,
that's the toughest week. The overnight happen to get in
the groups. Even I was feeling bad for the kids. Um,
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you know, you know, you know, you've watched the TV.
It looks fun and it was right, It still was fun,
but these kids were getting in groups and fighting with
each other and they were all sleep deprived. No, it's
a difficult week. I remember going through that week and
I was like, well, shoot, like this is hard. I mean,
but but it was fun too because I'm a person
that likes to challenge myself on literally everything. So something's
(10:59):
a chat orange to me, I'm like, let's go, let's go. Um,
And so that week is too. It separates the week
from the strong. Honestly, who cracks and who doesn't and
who's ready to go on with the competition because the
competition is not easy. It's not easy at all. So um,
whoever can outlast longest? So you do the group, then
you it's solo and group. You move on to the
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top twenty four. And then that's where I came in,
And I guess I met you for the first time.
I remember what I don't I'm trying to think if
I can remember what you were wearing. I remember what
I don't remember what I was wearing. They just give
me I want to pick out my clothes and then
I just put them on. Those producers, Pepper, you with
so many questions all the time now, like they just
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and they brought me in to not be a producer, right,
to be a human. You guys could actually talk to it,
and I'd be like, well, I'm a human too, let
me I understand this. But man, I would want those
producers and all and they're all black. You get behind
the camera and they just like a thousand questions you
guys all the time? Yeah, they do, they always, I mean,
just to get every single possible answer. I guess out
of us that they can, because sometimes it's hard to
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get answers out when you're excited about something. What was
your storyline? My storyline on American I don't like, what
were they highlighting about you? Because everybody kind of has
a story, right, Yeah, your dad was there a lot
because you're you're underage mine or as they called him,
and so your family was there. Yeah, that was my
main story. Um, I'm just extremely close with my dad.
One of eight. Um, I was always a daddy's girl
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growing up, and so he you know, even before American
and I don't when I started when I started singing
at nine in the choir, and then eleven I did
my first show all the way up to seventeen, and
at seventeen years old, before I know, I did a
hundred and thirties six shows that year alone. So I
mean doing shows in the gospel choir or just playing yourself,
no myself. So like I was with the gospel choir
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from nine to eleven, and then eleven I left the
gospel choir and started doing shows, doing the anthem for
the Pirate of Steelers, just different stuff all the way up.
So it was like a grind for six years. So
you're saying the anthem of the Pirates is the pretty cool. Yeah,
the Pirates steeling the Steelers will be a bigger thing.
It's more concentrated in one game. Yeah, nerve wracking. You
see the anthem And it was the hinesvilld Um Yeah
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it was Hinsfeld No, because it was a bigger crowd.
Because it's like bigger you can't see like eyes on you.
I just I got more of adrenaline rush from that
and rather than nerves you ever mess up? Um in general?
No singing the anthem, No, thankfully not yet, hopefully not
at all, but um, I actually have to sing the
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anthem coming up soon in March sometimes for a basketball game.
How old you be the first time you're sanging on
a big stage? Um? The first time I sang ever
anthem for the Pirates? Really, were you freaked out at all?
You know what? You know what freaked me out a
little bit. Wasn't the people. It was the delay of
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the mic in the stadium, because you'll do this and
then this comes over the top of you like a
second later, a whole second, and me, being twelve years old,
I just started never experience out before. I was like,
what the heck? Um? But I still like managed to
get through it. Um. But that was difficult because some
stadiums give you ears that you can turn up a
pack and you don't hear that. They didn't, so I
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What is that Starbucks? Well, yeah, I know it's Strawberry
ASA or a fresh start? Is that your drink? I
don't drink coffee. I don't like coffee. I'm not a
coffee When I was going to Dance with the Stars,
I drink coffee it a little bit because it was
that's all they had and I was exhausted all the time.
But it's never good. Yeah it's bitter. Yeah, I'm not
a fan of that. But that I started drinking too
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much sugar with that. But you're eight teen, who cares? Right?
My metabolicalism is very fast. I was in Chicago, I think,
and you were opening up for Chris Lane when I
was on Stars where you playing Joe's Yeah, I did.
How's that going? Really good? Chris Line's tour was absolutely amazing.
He's amazing though, I mean, like he I can't I
can't say thank you to him enough because he brought
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me unto the tour with him and was so unbelievably
nice and still is like to this day, we're friends.
Down it's it's just really cool to see somebody help
you up and pick you up without looking for something
in return, because it's very hard to find, and this
especially in this music industry, to find somebody that wants
to help you without asking for something in return. And
he is one of those people and I know that. Um,
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you know I'll be friends with him for a long time.
So he's great and it went good. He tell you
to move to Nashville is the only way to make it.
He did not. He did it all right. So you
go and idle you. They're all whittling down. One goes down,
one goes home, one goes home, one goes home. It's
about the top five or so. Did you feel like
you were the favorite? The favorite? Because I felt like
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you were the favorite. I felt like not the favorite
of the people, but I felt like you had the
best shot to win at about the top five, almost
like I think you got the best shot to win
the show. You did you feel that way? Um? I
was confident. I wanted to win, that's for sure. I
knew since I got to that spot, I was like,
all right, I'm gonna hit it even harder like each time,
especially as the numbers were bendling down. So, um, I
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was just really grateful, very thankful, And every time the
cuts came, I was just I had to be accepting
if I were to get eliminated, because I was just
very thankful to have made it that far. Already get
to the final. Yeah, final show. There's three of you
left going into that show. Did you feel like, all right,
I can I can do this. I'm gonna win this thing.
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Were you feeling confident? Um? Yes, what the performances? Yes,
but I could tell you right now whenever me, Maddie
and Caleb were standing there and Ryan Seacrest said, UM,
din't like the second they said or he said Caleb's name,
I knew for a fact I was not getting through
because I'm saying Caleb. I knew something told me that
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Maddie was getting through. And when they said Caleb, I
freaking knew it. I was like, no way I'm getting through.
No way I'm getting through. That's why I mean it
was so I was. I accepted the fact before they
even said her name, because I just knew something you
got tells you saw. But I was okay with everything.
What happens after idol is over? The next day idols over?
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What do you do the next day idols over? Um?
We had to do a bunch of press and interviews
on the just the whole competition in general, and how
we took everything. Does it suck to lose and have
to go be interviewed. Are you more so happy that
of the experience, like really the next day, yeah, I
was happy. Of course, you're sad that you lost, because
when you set yourself up for something for so long.
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I mean, this was months upon months, um, that you
worked and you were so busy every single second, so
focused on something. So of course it sucks that you lose,
because everybody you know once that winning spot. Um. But
I again, I accepted the fact that it's okay, and
that was all part of the plan for me. So um,
And I'm really glad that Klea and Maddie you know,
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got first and second place. They absolutely deserve it. They're amazing,
amazing singers, amazing people, so you know, and especially as
the numbers doing down, as you said, Um, you get
really close to people and it's not even almost a
competition anymore. It's you're happy to see if somebody succeeds whatever.
I wouldn't be listen. There were four Dance with the
Stars and I was like, I better win this freaking thing.
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I didn't think I was going to, but I I didn't
give a crap. Were you close with any of the other. Yeah,
I liked everybody, but when it's time to compete, when
it's not how to compete, it's well, I like Milo
and I, Um, we're as close as we could because
Milo is your age. Um, but he was really good.
Um Ivana from Harry Potter with her and I got
closer to the end, but Alexis Rand and I weren't
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that close. Um so but really, who cares who I
was competing? Who gives a crap about the other people?
Like all week long we were cool and Milan I
was super cool. But but then when it's the game
time one, I don't want to lose. And if I lose,
I'm gonna want to eat my kidney. I would be
still so. But um, you're good for you. You're more
mature than I am. Apparently, Oh no, thank you. I'm
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I hate losing. I have a problem losing. Um, if
you're already complex, don't worry one day. One day you'll
have to go to therapist and it all come out. Yeah,
it all come out. You're still young. Wait for don manifest. Okay,
just come back. So you go home? When do you
go home? How many days after idols over um idol
ended one of May. That was when the finale was
twenty second. We did all the press the next day
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after that we went back. So what's it like when
you go home? It's weird. I mean, it's so weird
because you're so used again being in this like this
different world literally Idols a different world. It's it's a flip.
It's a flip of what your life has been. Um,
you're constantly working, constantly emotional, like it's insane. So going
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home and like you already know the answers to everything
when with Idol like that you were curious about the
entire time. It's like so weird. But then we had
to prep for the Idol tour. Oh then you had
to go to tour. Yeah. Yeah, so it wasn't all
the way over because the show was over, but then
you had more work to do for Idle. Yeah. They
pay you guys, good, m decent enough to you. It
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was cool, I guess. Yeah, Like when I did dance
with the Star Store, they paid me like thousand bucks
a night. I think it's what it was. Really you
guys weren't that much A thousand but oh heck it
was ten tho dollars a week and if you did
a full week, oh my gosh, I think that's a
lot or something like that. Well, yeah, but I only
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I only did one week. I mean, I don't know
if that's a lot, like four days, but I just
wanted it was an idol tour like that. No it wasn't.
I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know
if no, no, it wasn't. Um yeah, no, I'm not
an expert on the whole money thing, but I know
that it wasn't like ten thou dollars. I didn't. I'm
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just being like some people. I don't think that. I
don't think I made as much as a dancer, the
pro dancers. Yeah, I think because we were working in shorts.
Short but I'd still take that. Well yeah, that's and
I did it that I didn't have to the tour,
and I was like, yeah, absolutely, look it up right, Okay,
so you go, did you save your money? Did I
save it from the tour? Um all that jacket? No,
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you know what I had to do. You have to pay.
This is a whole thing with the music industry. You
have to pay towards all of your music stuff because
this is very expensive. So on a tour. You have
to put money down on a tour for and that's
what I did. So, yeah, I did save it from
the audit tour and then I ended up putting it
on the next tour that I went on right after
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the American audit tour was over. Now did you make
money back on that tour? Um? I think so. Marchandise, Ye,
you start. You need to start figuring this stuff out.
You got a business You have a business manager? Yet? Yes?
I do? All right, you have a good one, yeah,
because that's a good one. That for me was tough.
I don't understand the business manager stuff. Now I do
because I like to understand everything. Yeah, I'm not going
to have a manager. Do I have a manager? Yeah?
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Sitting right there all right, just making sure he's sitting
across the room. Do you know the percentage that he gets? Um? No,
I feel like I don't know it. But I don't know.
Spit it out. What do you think it is? I
don't know? Is it like five, ten, fifteen? What is that?
If it's five? We need to talk because I need
I need to redo my deal. I can't if you're
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clising me on all this math. And I failed geome
my school. This isn't. This isn't. I have people that
handle that I can't. Don't first of all, never be
that person. But it's my dad, So I can trust
my dad absolutely. Well sometimes no, yes, there's been a
lot of stories about dad's Okay, well not my dad.
And here's my advice to you. Ready, I'm gonna continue
my mentorship because I'm listen, I'm in the business too,
right in your full you're like full time on this season, right, Yeah,
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I just talk. I'm talking about music again. You just
you don't have to know everything's coming in and out
when you're so busy, right, you have people to do that,
but you need to know what percentages you're paying people. Okay,
I'll pay attention to it more, just even in your phone,
like you need to know. Okaycent goes to my manager.
I don't know what yours is. What yours is? Yeah,
goes to the agent. I don't know what you're is,
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but that's mine. Okay, you know five percent goes to
your business manager. Okay, so I think that's I know
that one. Yeah, it sucks because all your money is gone.
You make it, you make a dollar, and you know
forty cents. But the good news is is that they're
worth more than that forty cents, so it's actually a
really good investment. But you just need to know that
stuff just so much. Someone asked you, what do you
pay your manager that you don't look like a du fist?
Because I used to be the dupist, because like, what
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do you pay a manager? I don't know one? Dang?
All right, that's note number two. Alright to things we've
learned before. One, you have to move to Nashville to
make it to you to know your percentages my others
only ever one I've done when I'm like tutoring the
PERSI during it. Okay, back to you. So you decide
what do you decide your home? And you're like, I
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think I want to make a run in music, like
in country music, or do you go I don't want
to try go to college? Like what what's the now?
A terrible idea? No, I knew that. I knew I
wasn't going to college before I did American Idol, because
me and my dad had talked about that. I told him,
I said, this is plan A and plan B. What
was planning and plane B? To make it in music, okay,
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and just this was it. This is what I wanted
to do for the rest of my life. Um and
so even after American, I don't I knew already what
who I wanted to be like as an artist. That
was something that even but going through American I will
definitely reassured me of that, which is country. Um, I
always help people. I wanted to be the Whitney Houston
country music so and that's what I do want to be.
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So we'll say that happens. How many labels have been
saying in front of labels, Um, probably I'd say like
five or six. Have you had some bad, bad ones
where you go, oh, that one didn't go so well,
not that I recall, thankfully, Have you had something better
than others? We're like, oh, for sure, they want me
to sign with them. Yeah, it depends. I mean it
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also depends on the person's mood of the day. Like
they could be having a bad day and you know
they're not in a good mood. So it just depends
on the day. Are you recording music right now? Yes? Really, yes,
I've been working so hard on music since last year,
since right after I got off the Chris Lane tour. Well, actually,
in between the American Idol tour, UM, I talked to
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Carrie under One on the phone. I called her because
she after American Idol. UM, I'm just saying, go ahead,
oh please your context in your phone. After American Idol,
she reached out to me and said, you know, like
if you need any help with anything or I'm here
for you. She gave me a number. I called her. UM.
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We talked a few times, and I just asked her.
I was like, what did you do after American Idol
to keep your my lad I'm going. She was like,
I would just constantly work. Um, Like while I was
on the American Idol tour, I would constantly work. And
I said, Okay, that's what I'm gonna do. Um. So
during the American Ado tour, we would have like four shows,
five shows in a row. Show show, show, show, show.
We have one day off. I would fly here, record
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and write, fly back the next day and do the show.
So I mean like any day that I have off,
I'm doing something. Always music that's good. I like that.
At about you think that's something you really can't teach
a work ethic and if you were doing that, that's good.
You kind of taking the day off and just chilled. Yeah,
but there's I think of it as like how many
people want the same thing and what separates you from
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other people? Though, Listen, this is what you're coming into
a Nashville. Everybody's really freaking good. Everybody is really good.
What separates you is the amount of work you put
into it. It's like the NFL. The the line between
super athletic and super super atletic is so thin. It's
the people who put in the work. But that's good.
I don't know you were doing that. I commend to
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you get you get a ribbon after this is over
for all right for doing that the song here? Uh?
I hope you wrote with John Knight. That's how did
you get that? Right? Um? Through a great man? Okay,
because I was like, damn, look at that. You're already
writing with like cool big songwriters. Yeah, they're really They're
really cool. I've gotten to write with a few co
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you wrote the song with the Zachary on John Knight.
I'm gonna play a little bit of I Hope Here
we Go, produced by Ross Cooperman. Yeah, whoo whoo, come on,
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I can't even get these people in the room with me. Hi,
you you come in tally work with the biggest and
the best Already, I'm very blessed. Yeah, so what do
you what's the light getting in room with those guys?
What do you do in the writing room? You walk in,
You're like, hey, I'm dabbing Barrett. Yeah, um yeah, I
just make sure like everybody's comfortable. I feel like that's
such an important thing because when you're uncomfortable and like
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I don't know, things just don't click very well and
you don't connect and you don't come up necessarily with
a good song. And they're the best song that you
come up with. So anytime I get into a room,
I just want to keep writing songs that could blow up. Um.
And so we got in that room with John Knight
and Zach Kale love them both. Um. We got in
the room that day. It was on Halloween, um of
last year, and we got on the room. We were
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trying to figure out what we were going to write about.
And I was like, let's write a relationship song. They're like, okay,
let's start a song about a guy and a girl.
You know, they don't work out, but the girl still
kind of wishes him well, and I was like, that
is not how a girl's think towards Like when a
guy does this wrong, we don't go. You know, I
wish you will. We're like, I hope everything bad happens
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to you. I hope you get cheated on literally the
worst thing. I know it sounds rough, but that's how
girls are. When you do us wrong, that's why you
don't do it's wrong. So I wanted to write a
song that was like, that was the song that females
never got to say to that person, so that when
they hear it, they can dedicate it to that that
type of person. Um words that you know they never
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got to say, but they really did feel. M it's
pretty cool he switched up like that. Yeah, get all
that happened to you? Uh. Yeah, I've been in a
bed relationship before, so I understand and can relate to
girls that have to Who else have you written with
this school? I've written to list them. I'll give me
a couple though. Um David Garcia, Josh Miller, um, uh,
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Zach Kale, John Knight, Ross Copperman, Um, Josh Ker. Oh yeah,
that's like heavy hitters. Man. Damn, your people must think
you're pretty good. If they're getting in right with you,
that's a good thank you, That is a good thing.
So okay, so you're here today, Yes, then what happens
did you play tomorrow? Do you go back home for
like eight months and then come back for another day
or what? Go home for eight months? Come on now now? Um?
(30:37):
No tomorrow, I um, I'm trying to think on my um. Tomorrow,
I have a writing session actually with Zach Kale and
two others from eleven three, and then I have to
record downos on another song that I did. So you
get a lot of work done while you're here, absolutely, yeah,
stacked schedule Your dad here, yeah, even though you're eighteen,
he's here. Yeah, because you can't like, he doesn't want
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to leave me by myself. You can have one a
girl and an eighteen year old girl wondering around. Yeah,
but if you had a daughter that was eighteen, would
you want to buy yourself down here? Oh? I mean
I'd like a girlfriend much less a daughter. All right,
I'm saying. If I'm saying, if I think if she
was like, I'm gonna go pursue something in college, same
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thing if you went to college. He's not with you
I remember having this conversation with you while we're on idol. Yeah.
I was like, eventually you gotta cut the court. Remember
that conversation. Yeah, Okay, you don't have to do anything.
I know, but he's just he's very loyal to me,
and so I believe that I'm supposed to be loyal
back towards him. I like him. He's a good dude.
He's great. I like hanging out with him. What do
you think about all this? Um, he's loving watching it.
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I mean he's been a part of it with me
since I was just started. He's the reason why I
even I am where I am, honestly, because he's just
been my rock and my support system through it all.
He's the one that's given money to get me two shows.
He's the one that's given his time. He's the one
that's not everything. So I wouldn't be here without him,
and he is really my main support system. So he's
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just enjoying everything. I just give you a hard time
because I like you. You You know that, right? That's sweet? Thanks? Thanks?
Love hate relationship, No, there's no hate. There's no Are
you still dating the long hair dude? Yeah? Kate? Where's
he lived? Texas still. Did you guy see each other ever? Yeah,
but I just saw him not that long ago. Have
you ever come to town? Um? Yeah, we actually come
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quite often together and we do our own stuff. Did
your dad go on your dates with you? Good for that?
How's that going you guys? Good? It's really good coming
up on a year. So yeah, yep. And Ryan Seacrest
out at us in front of everybody. We were the
first American Idol couple. Actually, some people think like, oh,
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Mannie Caleb were the first, but with the first, okay,
so how did that happen? You go on the show,
You keep it quiet from the producers at first that
you guys kind of like each other. Yes, and then
the producers literally just ask you every possible question they
can and scant what's been going on? And then told
I guess they told Ryan Secrest and he outed it
because I had no idea when he performed, and they like,
(33:05):
he did the whole reveal of everything. I was backstage like,
oh no, oh, you didn't know it's coming. No, because
we separated relationship from business, we were like, we're not
gonna we're not gonna put this on the television because
we came here to win the competition. We didn't come
to have the bachelorette on UM so because we knew
you know, we knew of Maddie and Caleb too, so
(33:27):
we'd always like go out together. So it was just
funny how everything unwinded though. You try to keep a secret,
did I try? They everybody tries right to. Of course
you keep it on the d L. It's it's crazy
the minors they call them on American Idol. You guys
had your own schedule. Yeah, you had to go first
because you couldn't do you can do the long hours, right.
That would be pretty cool to be like seventeen and
a half and do Idol and not eighteen, right because
(33:48):
you get all the provincial treamment. Yeah, it was interesting
you know now that Yeah, you're pointing that out. I
mean in the beginning because I turned eighteen while on
the show, So from the beginning, Yeah, during all the
hard parts where people had to like stay super duper long,
I got to go back UM. But then like on
the right timing, I turned eighteen, So it's like it
(34:09):
all worked. It was really cool. Did you get nervous
on the live shows? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I when
I first started, like, I was very fortunate not to
get nerves around anybody that I said, but American I
absolutely was definitely a challenge because it's like you've so
many people telling you, like, look at the camera, look
at this, pay attention to this, do this, do this,
(34:29):
do this, and there's a camera with a red dot.
When you see the red dot come up, there's sixty
million people watching you. Don't mess up. There's three celebrities
that you didn't even think we're human beings also watching
you and critiquing what you're doing. Don't mess up. It's like, yeah,
so it's kind of hard. And then once you get
yourself into that mode, it is so hard to get
out of. It's like an avalanche, Like it's a snowball.
Don't get nervous, don't and nervous you get more nervous.
(34:50):
So it was a challenge. I had to keep going
back and forth with myself. Do you watch your social
media the whole time? Did I watch my social media? Yeah?
It was crazy to see everything want to grow. Yeah,
it was awesome, and it's really nice that they stuck
with me. Yeah, even after American Idol, it's really really nice.
Like with I hope seeing that, you know, just from
a straight fan base, it's shot to fourteen on iTunes
(35:12):
was crazy to me, didn't that means? That just showed me, like,
while these people are really sticking with me even after
American Idol, which means a lot. So they're probably all listening. Now, Hey,
what do you want to say to them? I love
you guys so much. You have no idea. Thank you
so much to everybody that supported me, because you have
no idea what it means to me, and I wouldn't
be here without you. It's really all about you guys. Um,
(35:34):
anytime I perform, it's about everybody else, not yourself. So um,
just thank you so much and we're gonna do it together.
Keep climbing Garden in two years. That's what you used
to say. That's what you would say that you've moved.
We talked to here because it was three but now
it's two thousand nineteen, so it's too Yeah, you would say,
I'm gonna play Madison Square Garden went headline in three years. Yeah,
(35:56):
you have two years now, that's the goal? Ye, what
is it? Goal? What do you want to do? Like
if we're back here at my house in a year
and we're in front of the microphones. Where do you
want to be? Where do I want to be? Um?
I want too. I think it would be so cool
to be my ear I have an earring. Do you
have an ear ring or your ache? I have an
ear ring? Hearing in and it's like pressing against earring.
(36:19):
But it's okay, it's okay, beauty Spain, um and okay.
Next year, I would like to be nominated for um
A c m A Award. Yeah, I think that would
be really really cool. That would be really cool. I'd
like to be nominated for c m A Awards. I
think that'd be really cool. That's a goal of mine
for sure. With that's why I'm trying to make the
(36:40):
best of best songs. You know what you don't like
about you? You have no shortness. There's no short of
confidence with you, which you have to have. You have
to you have to have so much confidence to be
here all the time. You have to be so sure
of yourself. And then your goals are super high, which
is great and people may look at you and go, gab,
you're crazy. But the crazy ones are the ones that
are just crazy enough to make it. Yeah, because I'm nuts.
(37:03):
I've always been told all your nuts, your goals, you
need to be big. Yeah, you know, if you don't
have goals for yourself, nobody else will go bigger go home. No,
don't go home, But you gotta go big, go big.
I mean, if you're not going big, what's what are
you doing? Well? You learn when it doesn't go right
and you keep going big, don't go home. Okay, don't
pack up your grab and go home. I mean unless
(37:24):
you're living in Nashville and then go back. Okay, all right, listen,
it's been good to see you. We did how long?
Half an hour? Did half? Half an hour? Interview? How
you feel about it? Good? I haven't seen you know
what I've seen you since the finale, you know. I
just said that to my manager coming in. I was like,
how's at your door? And I was like, oh my god,
I would see if this American idol? This is so weird.
(37:46):
So I'm growing so much. I'm a lot taller. Yeah,
you look a lot different. I was under my house
but before you got everying to catch a cat, a
cat that was under my house, and I was crawling
in the crawl space and I got I got it out.
He did. Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah, it out right on
the other side of the outside. I know you think, well, fancy, Bobby. No,
you know who gets his own cat front of the house. Me.
There was no butler that does that? I do that. Yeah,
(38:10):
there's no Butler. No, No, Mike is the closest thing yet. Listen,
it's good to see at Gabby Barrett underscore. Right g
A B B Y B A R R E T
T underscore underscore? Why the underscore to someone already have
Gabby Barrett and you can't buy it from them? Did
you try? Now? I tried. They won't tell me. Bobby Bones,
why don't you try to buy to Gay Barrett. I'm
(38:31):
gonna look into it. I have never tried that yet.
So we'll say, all that money you got from the
Idol tour, Yeah yeah, but does an underscore really make
like a huge difference? Well, yeah, it's just easier to
go at Gabby Barrett than the underscore. That's right after it.
All right, I've had enough of you, alright, I'm just kinished.
In a year come back, we'll talk about your or
a c M nomination. All right, it sounds like, let's
(38:54):
see you by the way. You have you know, I
forgot to bring up you have seven brothers sisters, right, yes,
because you brought like half of them to the show. Yes, yeah,
And I was like, yeah, yeah, like we got all
these kids absolutely folks. Yeah, because I was I'm a
big fan of you, so I was like, you guys
have to come. We all are big fans of you.
We all would listen to you. So it was really
cool and it's really cool to being back here. So
thank you very much. Yeah, all right, Gabby Barrett, there
(39:15):
we go. We'll see you soon. Alright, I check out,
I hope, and you're gonna put other music out. I assuming, yes,
music coming. Very not your last song ever, you're saying
within the next few weeks you'll hear a new song.
All right. There we go, gat Bart Everybody, Episode sixt
Host
Bobby Bones
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