January 26, 2020 • 47 mins
Bobby and Eddie talk about crazy twists in country songs from Two Black Cadillacs by Carrie Underwood to A Boy Named Sue by Johnny Cash. Plus, new music out this week by Kelsea Ballerini, Hot Country Knights and Kassi Ashton.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Episode to twenty four of The Bobby Cast.
This is a special music edition. No guest unless you're
the guest. Can I be the guests? Well, you can be,
I guess. But when you walked up here a second ago,
because we're in my house and you, guys, what are
we talking about? I prefer to bring you into these
without you knowing what we're gonna talk about, unless I'm like, hey,
research this and come in with your own thoughts. But
(00:23):
this isn't really something I don't want you to research. Okay,
So we'll do some stuff. We'll do new music out
this week, we'll do music news and then, inspired by
an article that I found at opery dot com, dramatic
twists in country songs plus a couple of like you
don't expect this song to go this way and then
at the end it does, so is it? Though? Where
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did your mind go with that? Right off the bat?
Because we'll get two in a minute. Um thunder Rolls
not one of ours here, but why thunder rolls? Because
it starts off just like three thirty in the morning, like, oh,
it's like some cool, scary story, and then it's just
like about a wife waiting for her husband to come
home and he's not because he's cheating, and then um,
(01:06):
that would have definitely fit. We do have a Garth
song on here. Okay, Garth's got a couple of those,
so we'll get to that coming up in a minute.
New music out first this week, Kelsey Ballerini has got
a new song called l A. Here's this song, Frans
call the Ocean here mad at Me? The relationship with
(01:37):
l A. Anything you'd like said about that? Interesting it is.
It's kind of like the her saying musically like she
goes to l A to kind of search this pop world.
I'm gonna be honest with you, have no idea. It
sounds like it first I've ever heard any of the
(01:57):
songs right now, I'm too. I know it's been out
for a while and Kelsey and I are friends, but
I never heard that songs. I guess it's been out
for Friday, Saturday, Today, Sunday we record this. I never
heard it. I mean the whole like Tennessee, Will Tennessee
be mad at Me? It's kind of what I feel.
Maybe it's people again, We're just I'm just I'm just
a listener. And one lyric, and now we're guessing maybe
it's people upset at her for thinking that she's trying
(02:20):
to cross over and go chase pop when she hasn't
quite accomplished country yet. Yeah. I've heard it for the
first time. I know, I know, but those lines are powerful. Um,
are you a lyric person or a melody person know
that that whole line of her will Tennessee be mad
at me is the only reason I started, like, listen
to this lyrious, Like what's she's saying? At first? I'm like, Na,
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that's kind of where my mind goes first, And then
I'm like, what did she says? Play that again? Let's
break it down, let's do film here, might play that again?
Frans See, that's exactly what it is. Thank you know
(03:04):
what I said. You said, I didn't know that, but
that's what it is. She's like, I'm on TV or
doing something and but people in the country world to
get me pissed because I'm being too pop. Yeah right, yeah,
I mean we can get her on talking about this soon.
That's kind of what I got from it too. I mean,
it's it's interesting, like she she definitely writes what she's
(03:24):
feeling and that's crazy. That's that's what her thoughts are
right now. Also, if you go back to the infancy
of this podcast, we did one with her when it
was really like, she's really vulnerable in it, right. We
ever put that one back to the top, haven't. Well,
if you haven't heard it, you should go back and
hear it, unless when we'll get her on for another
new one. But I'll just recommend everybody go check out
(03:44):
one of the really early Bobby cast with Kelsey Ballerini
from the other House before we moved. We're talking into
campbell soup cans. Here is the second new song out
this week, Hot Country Nights, which is Dirk spent Ley's
parody band and Travis trip the It's called pick her Up,
pick Up and Up Stake Home Time, Kick Up, dance
(04:10):
around to an old juice box? Do you really want
to rock the world? Just from the road anyway? Girl
ain't got a right travel, she ain't got no use
for I mean the fact that Travis trets on it's cool.
But to me it just sounds like a good Dirk
(04:31):
Spanley song. It does. It sounds just like Dirk like
and because it is Derek. But when you don't see them.
It just sounds like a Dirk Spentley song. So what's
what's he doing with this? I think he's bored. Is
he He's wanted something new? I think I'm not gonna
speak for him, but I am friends with him. I
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think he is not super inspired by what's happening right
now in country music, and I don't think he has
anything that he feels like he has to write, and
so he's going, you know, I still want to make
music and have fun. I have a lot of time
to do it. Let's have some fun, because I yeah,
I don't. I just think was this the band that
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he would open up his shows with or was this
the band that he would just kind of show up
at random places? And I've played with them before Country
Nights yeah and after party right. Yeah. I remember that
Heart Country like two years ago in Austin. I went
up and did I did um Me in the Middle
with them, and then I did another song because that's
what they would do. They sing a bunch of covers
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and they still do. Yeah. I think he just was like,
I want to have some fun and I'm not super
inspired to do anything right now. Um, So I'm gonna
just do this. I'm putting words in his mouth. Cassie Ashton.
This song is called Hopeless. It's pretty cool. It's called hopeless,
(06:07):
but it's maybe I should hope less. Yeah, I got that.
I was like that. She's so good, He's so good.
I know. She just she's not there yet in people's eyes.
She has like buss through yet because she hasn't had
a big mainstream radio song on the tet success. But
as soon as she has that one song that has
massive success, people are gonna find that because it's going
to be delivered to them on a on a large
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consumption scale, and they're gonna start to see the other
stuff that she's done and just fall in love with
her as an artist. I love her. This is a
great song too. It's got a good sound to it.
You like that kind of electric Yeah? I like that.
Slide one right now here is Hayley Witters. The song
is called Janice at the Hotel Bar go on make
(06:55):
Good Living Dogs again. Somebody that manages her has myself
phone number. I don't know who it is, and I
might know them, but I keep getting texts going, hey,
what's up with the Have you heard the new Haley
witers and I don't know who it is? Do you respond?
(07:16):
I think I have before. Let me look at my
messages because she's actually really good. I don't know that
she has a big deal yet. Yeah, I've never heard
of her. Okay, here we go. Okay, so I don't
know who it is because there's no um, it's just
an number. Here. Look at you. You You did right back
(07:37):
one time? He goes, oh, I know who it is. Yeah,
because it's someone that manages someone else that you know.
And that's what I scrolled to. I got into a
we'll call it a beef with a band before says hey,
great hanging. I appreciate your open mindnus about blank let
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stay in touch, and I said, thanks man, you too.
He's actually pretty nice. That's the old text. Yeah, this
is from two thousand seventeen, this old tech. I scrolled
all the way up and I did do this the beginning.
It's awesome to your phone. Kept that text reference on
an airplane with this guy. I was flying here to
California and somebody super cool was like, hey, just get
(08:22):
on my plane. You can go out with us. And
so there were like five or six of us on
this plane, and he was one of them, and so
he was like, Hey, this is my friend and he's
also the manager for and I was like, oh, I
kind of been fighting with those yeah, but then it
was totally cool. I actually really got along with them.
Thought he was great. Then I started to get messages here,
(08:44):
but I couldn't. I don't know who was right. I
didn't scroll up congrats on on our personality of the year.
I really liked our talk on the plane. Hope we
can build on that. Didn't reply Bobby Cappy and I
are managing Haley Winters, wondering if she's on your radar
at all? If not, love to share the with you.
I said she isn't. I was honest, she isn't. I'm
(09:04):
sure I run into her. I don't really listen to
people's music officially, especially if it's not out yet. A
bad spot for me. Um, he's understood. Well, if you
find the time. And then he sent it again, Hey, Bobby,
just checking out with you, Hayley. Things really picked up.
She's got an album to and then you said, I said, I,
actually I didn't. Haven't replied a long time to playing
with the Gither talking it's a gift Haleen now on
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my on my podcast, let's see my podcast? All boom.
I guess he just replied, yes, it's a good guy.
Now why is it called Janis Hotel Bar if it's
(09:51):
about her? I gotta tell you, I don't listen to
as much new music as I used to. Why just
not my discovering My goals are different. I used to
go because for a while, for I would say four years,
and I'm not anymore. So I'm gonna say this. I
used to be the leader of breaking artists, and I
(10:12):
just invested so much time into that. Let me find
really great people they don't get in a shot. Now
I'm just trying to build my career outside of I
do the radio show best I can. I do the
TV show I've been writing, and when I have time,
I do that. And when I write where I used
to listen to a lot of music, Like last night,
I get on Alexa and I go Alexa and I
was gonna play play new you know whatever, and I
(10:32):
was like, Alexa, just play nineties acoustic. So I just
as I'm writing, I'm just listening. Just the time that
I have on East invest in that because I have
radio time of TV time I'm writing, and then I don't.
I'm kind of done. There's nineties you're comfortable go to
because I have to think. It's like when I go
to sleep, I have to watch episodes of shows I've
(10:54):
already seen, which right now is The Office, but has
been King of Queens, has been in my life, Olden Girls,
Mary with Children, Roseanne. I need to have seen every episode.
So I'm not curious about how would you find you music? Though?
When you did, did you YouTube a lot? Because anybody
can post up on YouTube, and if you watch something,
it gives you like five other spots over there on
the side and takes back red. Yeah, let's see what
(11:17):
do you say? You guys are friends now. I hope
you're saying good things. Life's good when you're running for president. Question.
You gotta get back to my UM. I don't I
forget your question. My best friend text me, so, yeah,
I asked you how you found you music? UM? A
couple of ways. One to Apple Music, three Spotify, four friends.
(11:43):
So so when you do like Spotify and Apple, is
that just kind of playlists of the new the whatever
playlists they put together for new stuff. Mostly if you
find one new artist that has a certain kind of
tone or sensibility that they'll give you seven other ones.
Apple is really good about it. Spotify is pretty good
at day um for me. Everyone uses these services differently.
Apple Music is a little better for me and finding
new music, but they both really have their strengths. Yeah,
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it's weird too when you find a song that you
really like and then you you check the band out
and it's like, nothing else sounds like that song. You're
like me, Or you find a song you really like
and you see seven people you don't recognize and you
click a couple and you liked them and it's kind
of in the same vein, and you're like, oh wow,
because that's happened to me a lot in country music.
And then some of them end up, you know, being
big stars. Okay, Haley, there's Haley Winters. Chase Rice dropped
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a surprise album called The Album Part One. You're shaking
your head. I've heard I've heard that he released one?
Did you listen to it? All? Right? Here we go?
Here is Messy from Chang love you the best that
I can't even when you can't damn me, even when
you can't even stand yourself. I'm telling you ain't nowhere.
I swear it. You just put out an album and
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didn't have nine months of build up or a new
album coming out. But it's funny how you called it surprised,
like you know, because it was kind of no one
saw that coming. I was listening to a playlist I
believe on Spotify and this song comes on and it's
basically like song porn. He's like I grabbed you and
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in your butt and then and I was like, what, like,
look a look at his songs. Okay, I want to
hear this, and that might be it might be a
little it's not that graphic. I think it is in
my mind. I was like, what now, I'm looking forward
to put it in my butt? Yeah, thet I put
your toes in my mouth. No, it's it's gotta be
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an old one. So like one of the most strange ones.
And then I took a tubotfore gonna want it tonight?
Give me another one, try to try gonna want it tonight?
I mean that sounds like it would be let's see, No,
that's a hit. What's your name? That keep going? What
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Carolina can? That's the top ones, that's the new one
Lonely if you are in the car, you're not helping
me here, mostly because I don't know I'm talking about.
All right, it's don't call it in the butt. Oh
that's the one. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, that can't be
keep on. That's what we just played, is right. No,
(14:18):
that's that's uh. That is only if you are that's
what we just playing. You know, I'll be kick back
with yeah whatever. Maybe I was on his dirty channel
released that when at midnight and only I can only
play at midnight and four am because you know, Mitchell
(14:39):
Tinpenny has a song called Can't go to Church Crazy
dalk In give Me Anymore? And then Pearl jam Yeah
(15:09):
have you heard I've heard the song. They released Dance
of the Dance of the Clairvoyant, and I heard it
and I was just like, what is this crap? I
hate on my favorite doors today because I get that
too bones. I have never thought that. When Pearl Jammers
a new song and that's my favorite band of all
time and I heard it, I'm like, oh my gosh,
they're losing it. Good for you, though, That's that's growth
and being able to not just blindly follow something musically.
(15:33):
It sounds cool. Well, when Eddie starts singing, he said,
he always sounds like different master. It sounds like just
(16:00):
would be a song in a movie as someone as
someone is saving the princess or something. Okay, okay, yeah,
like he's he's fighting people to get through the princess
up there. He's got a shield and the sword. And
then I don't know, and I think I've I've listened
(16:20):
to like three or four times now and it's starting
to sound better because I do love Pearl Jams so much,
and I do love his voice and I love everything
they do. But at first listen was rough and like,
this is bad. I've had that happened to me with
its been bold stuff. When he gets really experimental, I'm like, gosh,
I wish I was better. Yeah, that's tough, tho when
your favorite people put out I know. Um I saw
a picture of them all together recently. It looks like
(16:41):
a bunch of old dudes. Yeah, they're they're pretty old.
There's also one guy with long hair. He's newer, he's old.
He's like so so he's he's that's interesting. He's Hawaiian
and uh and he Eddie Vetter would go to Hawaii
and surf or whatever, and he started surfing with this
guy and they became friends. And he plays key. He
plays keys, and so Eddie and him would jam out.
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He'd be like, hey, you're pretty good man. He's like, yeah,
you should come tour with my band. Like come, He's like, okay,
what what do you I'll show up. And he showed
up thinking they were just gonna go play a couple
of club shows and they were huge arenas. And did
he not know? He was no idea, who, no clue,
come on, just shows up and and so he was
kind of like a special guest for a while. But
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now he's officially part of the band. His name is Boom.
That's not true Dead Series. That's the story they told. Hey,
I know the supposed to be in the arena here.
I'm looking for a little club. Do you know what
we're supposed to go? Stop? Hayley Williams Simmer. This is
from Paramore Haley with It sounds like I'm the same
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movie that Pearl Jams soundtrack. Do you know her, you've
met her? I met or I don't know where she
lives here listen some of the time she's from here. Franklin, Tennessee. Right, Mike, Yes,
I haven't met her. Um those that's new music out
this week? Which one do you give the Grammy too?
Pearl Jam? Of course you probably my cast that hard what?
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God no, No, it's just not my kind of music.
I like them. I like them. Fine, it's not my
kind of music. Um and that Pearl Jam. I would
say the same thing. God no, but you didn't know.
You didn't. You're like, that's possible, it could happen. Definitely,
wasn't gonna be that. I'm probams you. In Music News,
this week's CMT pledges fifty video airplay for female artists.
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Your thoughts good? I mean, are there fifty half videos
of female artists out there? Well, so it's two things, right.
I don't think this is good. Here's why. A couple
of reasons. One, if you really think the music is better,
you should do sixty females. You should do like the thing.
I'm just never a fan of going we're just gonna
do equal for everybody, because that's like a participation ribbon.
(19:10):
I don't like fifty fifty. I think if you think
there's great female videos and male then you play the
seventy percent female. I'm never a fan of no matter
what it is going, let's just in art, let's everything's equal,
because in art nothing's equal. So I don't I think
it actually is not the best movie. Listen at times
you have to do because I've been I've done it too.
(19:33):
You have to do old sometimes h things that are
you're doing it just so people will look at you
to make a difference. But I am not a fan
of it because if you really believe there's more then half,
then play more than half. I don't think you should
cap at fifty by you're camping it at fifty, because
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that's what this is. A pledge. We're gonna tell you
what we're doing because it's a it's a bull move,
and I like the obnoxiousness of it because again I
can appreciate that part of it. But A but by
you going we we're gonna, that means that you're you're going,
you're just gonna do up to fifty. But if it's ninety,
what if all the videos are better than all the
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dudes and play all of them. Um, it's a tough
place for them to be in. I like what they did.
I am not a fan of video airplay because it
makes you go, well, we're gonna give female something that
and again, and nobody put their neck on the line.
More female artists than I have. But um, but good
for them for trying something. They probably think the same
thing that I'm saying right now. They're probably just going,
(20:37):
we can make headlines right now, we just have to
make headlines. So they also don't live off of playing
music videos too. There's most of the content is on,
so it's not like they're taking their whole channel. The
hard thing about making people switch it up at radio
is you have a bunch of people in radio. I
don't consider myself as part of this because I don't
(20:57):
program anything. I don't program music. The one thing that
I do program with music is at one hour national
show I do that isn't about a hundred and fifty cities,
and it's all females. So in my contract I was
able to say I want an hour of whatever I want,
and they said, okay, what do you want? So I
do it all female show. So going with this, I
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don't pro I don't forgot it's going. I'm sure it
was good though, Well correct me if I'm wrong, But
the way it was. Want of something good here though,
maybe this will remind you. But the way it works though,
don't I got it hot? You People in radio, I
don't care if people screaming at them. They don't care
about people on Twitter and go and play more. What
they care about is keeping their job because anyone in
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any medium that again has to deal with art, those
jobs are so hard to get and keep. And you're
not gonna go and be one radio station that risks
something and then when it doesn't work they cut you.
You'll never get another job. Not because of the female thing,
but because it's so hard to get jobs. So if
I'm a program director in Pittsburgh, why am I going
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to risk a playlist that people tell me has been
researched because if it works, you're credited in the research
gives it to you. If it doesn't work and you
played what they said, you can go the research told
me to do this. I can't be in trouble. So
it's gonna be hard to get radio. And it's not
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even a radio thing. What record labels have done is
they've started it's so much more deeper in the culture.
We're probably serviced. We as in radio thirteen males to
one female. That's provided from the record label. Yes, because
that's how radio stations play music. Now. I have been
a music director and since I was like twenty five
years old. But radio stations are brought this music by
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the different record labels and said, hey, we would encourage
you to play this song because this is the song
we're trying to make go number one with this someone
who to move up the chart probably thirteen males to
one female, and so our radio sessions are supposed to
take and make one female times thirteen. So it isn't
It isn't fair. But even from the labels, you gotta
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go to the A and R. Why aren't they finding
more females? Why aren't there more? That being said, I
like what CMT is doing for the headline. I don't
like fifty It seems like socialism inside of art. But
all in all, don't we do what the consumer wants?
And here's why you don't on radio to shove females
on a playlist, because as soon as you do, and
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it's untested and unproven, if someone doesn't like it, and
then someone that's been research ago, we told you, we
just put some new females on and people don't like it.
They've changed the channel. We have absolute data because we
can see. We can see when people change the channel,
and so it doesn't matter if it's unproven a male,
a female, or a band. People don't like unproven things.
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And if you put on a bunch of unproven females
at once or a bunch of unproven may als at once,
people will change the channel. There's only like three artists
that you can put on that you don't know the
song of. People are so familiar with the tone of
their voice they'll keep it on. And that's Jason al
Dean and Luke Brian somebody else looking at research. I
remember the other one right now. But if you put
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on a dude, maybe that's sounds something somebody like that.
If you put on a dude that people don't know
and they don't know a song, they're gonna change it too.
So but what's unfair is if you put on do
you take three songs by female arts, you just shove
them in the playlist, people are gonna go, I don't
know this and change it the same they were dudes.
But but male female, whomever else is doing the research
(24:39):
and go we told you it didn't work, so now
we're going to be a step behind where we started anyway,
and go we told you we tried, and now we're
not trying again. Because you really can't shove an artist
to a listener's ear, like you just can't. They'll tell
you right away that it's just not what they want
to hear. It's weird, especially in markets that set the tone,
which are major PPM markets, which PPM is what right
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you is measured in. It's a real life It looks
like a pager and it's like with television when you
have the box up there, they know exactly when you
turn it off, and they know why you turn it off,
and they know which quarter hour radio it does the
same thing, so they can tell and when people go
what about research? Now they can look right at ratings
and see when people turn their their dials off more
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so than and in other ways they can put people
in a room and sit them around and go tell
me about this song, or they play them on the phone.
But anyway, good for them for just keeping it out there.
But to everyone who's like screaming and yelling at radio
radio is like, what do you want us to do.
We're just trying to keep our jobs. No one's gonna
take a big risk if it involves them putting their
butt online. So it's deeper than that. And I'm not
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even speaking from radio. I fight radio on this all
the time, so much so that I when my contract
came up, I negotiated that that spot there too. One
it's an hour, but it also moves females the chart
a little bit because it's um such a widely played
radio show. It lets me talk about it on my
radio show. I can so that then I can play
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more music on my show. It's just the whole thing.
It's just not very few things have I ever seen
creatively changed because people are screaming at it. Probably like
a kid, you scream at it for like a little
for a second. It works for a second, but probably
doesn't change who they are overall. Yeah, And as a dad,
as my kids screaming, I'm like, keep screaming, it's gonna
(26:29):
get worse. Keep it up. So in conclusion, I do
like that CMT made headlines with it because it does
bring the issue back up. If they were basing all
their ratings on musical programming, I think it'd be a
bit heavier. Meaning I mean if they if they're only
playing music video of the day, it's not that big
of a deal. If you're only affecting of the year. Uh.
(26:51):
And I don't like the fifty fifty. If you're asking me,
is it good overall? It? Wh why did you not
go we we're gonna six, Well, we're gonna do this
is what I would say. What we're gonna do is
just play music based on what we feel is good.
And every week I put out a report card on
this week. It's six females and fours about this week,
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And you constantly keep it in the new cycle, and
you constantly go over and look what they're doing. And
it's like, yeah, we've sat in a room and realized
that these who knew that's all. I just mean, we
just spit balled that whole AREO. It's empt should listen
to us. Um. Eminem defended the violence and his new
(27:33):
album Have You Heard? In the new emin amount putt
a surprise album. The video it's like you told me
about it. Yeah, it's crazy, Um, But I mean we're
still offended by Eminem. It's really still He's been doing
it in his whole career, like every time, how many
(27:53):
times we have to touch the hot stove like it's
gonna burn us. Congrats to him though always just surprise
is this by the way. Congrats to him on his
dark beard and dark hair. Looks good, Mike. You like
that that he's not bleached blonde anymore. Well, he hasn't
been bleached bond in a while. But like his whole
thing now is like dark and a prize natural color.
(28:15):
If I dies a little bit, he can getting older.
He did set the world record two for words in
a song the other day. That one song on here.
Um I think the song is called like Tsunami or
who held the record before him? Um? Micro think it
was him with rav god One't I think? I think yeah?
And then he came back do you have do you
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know what song that is? I google that we'll come
back to it. Finally, Ozzy Osbourne announced he has Parkinson's disease.
Which was the song I was playing? It was a
song he um, Ozzie's always talked kind of funny. I
didn't know if how long he had had it because
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during a pressure you think the Ozzie that we know
maybe not. I didn't know what. I don't know, because
he's always talked like that, even when he was younger, younger,
Black Sabbath younger, like. But wow, I mean that's well,
what they're saying is Ozzy Osbonne revealed it is Parkinson's.
Sharon says, quote, it's not a death sentence by any
stretch of the imagination. He's gonna get back out there.
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I guess my only question is how long has he
had it? Not our business. I'm not super educated on Parkinson's, like,
I haven't been close to anyone with it. I only
see the people that they will put on TV. Michael J. Fox, Um,
I don't know much about it other than just shaking
and he kind of had that that kind of exactly right.
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Us Grammys are tonight. By the time you hear this,
the Gramms will be over. Congratulations to all the winners,
all the winners, they all they all deserve it, every
single one. Mike, do you find it? Yeah, So it's
this song. He has two words with three thirty syllables
and about the last thirty seconds of the song. But
I did him in a ventage of murdering again a
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buddy would be in kim But then about he's in linierating.
Everything is inderatdor going to get him and then met
anybody who want up the pen in a a frame of
don't body wanted, but they're gonna get anyway up again.
And to feel like I'm really illlement till killer killed
him kilby the venillager. Really you bring in the killing
with dimiaotomy. You don't want to be the enemy of
the demon and winning me and being receiving enemy. What's
the good idiot to be? Every bit of me's the epidemy.
Get spided when I'm in the fercinity. Motherfucking you better
ducky even to be dead. Themn that you run into
me a percent, he was a fifth of a cent
and the vinage you bitch'm in available. You want battle
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them available and want Blake inflatable and un debatable. I'm unavoidable,
I'm in evadable him on the got a chaierul of
the money and'm beatiful. I'm not afraid of pull the
man stuff. That's great. And I would assume they have
this recorded on video when he did it. They have
to have the world record. Yeah, because so that so
it's not it's not edited. So and does he do
this live? What do you mean, because does he go
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out and tour and do this live? Oh? I don't know.
Does he do rap godlive? He does rap Godlive. I
mean that's so impressed to me. I mean, that's just
training your mind to learn every single word of that
which I can't even remember. Friends in low places sometimes true,
you know, and he's there, are you on stage? I
share it him? We I've found this article on opera
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dot com by country songs with endings we didn't see
coming in about it some other onesty as well. Carry
under what two Black Oh? This is, by the way,
the second part of the show. But before we get
into it, let's take a quick break. All right, we're back.
These are all twists and songs. So Carrie Underwood, two
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Black Cadillacs, you know the song are He? So the
twist is as it's all sad and you're like Donna,
and it turns out they conspired against them and murdered him.
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Right now that you've heard it a bunch of times,
it just you know, but at the first, it's just
a funeral song. He's done, he's dead. Then at the
end it's like, but we killed him. Ah, kedn't really
realize that now. It's the first time he did when
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I first heard it. Yeah, yeah, I mean sure, but
this is it's a cool breakdown. Papala Mama. Okay you
know the song, yes, of course, if you just read
the title Papula Mama, it's like, oh, man, two parents,
they loved each other. They loved each other. But and
this is early Garth Brooks and um roping. The wind
just continues to fly into Daddy's truck driver. He loved mama,
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Mama got lonely, had an affair. He came home with flowers,
bottle of wine, and they're at the hotel. And he
never hit the brakes, just drove right on. When he
was shifting, gears just flowed. And then that's the whole twist.
You know. At the beginning of it, it's like a
love and then by the end he drives. Wow. Yeah,
good one. Yeah. I have songwriters do love twisting their
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songs though, Office in the Pen. One of my favorite songs,
just because my grandmother played all the time, is a
boy named Sue from Johnny Cash. There's only a live
recording of this, by the way, it's right, he never
recorded on the studio. So what do you think about this? Yeah,
it's a good one. The twist, the twist is great.
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I mean, the whole build up of the song to
him going to see his dad is great. Uh. By
the way, shel Shell Silverstein wrote this, So, but what
do you think the twist is here? Well, the twist
is that they ended up liking each other at the
ends like he needed, he needed, he understood why his
dad named his Sue. Right, So the twist is I
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think it's mostly right. You know the song obviously, the
twist is the dad named him that because he knew
he had to go and he since he couldn't trying
to be tough, he was gonna have the world do
it because so he named him Sue. It's right. But
he was filled with so much anger because his dad
named him sueing like, there he is, that's s ob
Remember when he kicked Black Mule Bit Black of Prophet Dog.
The whole time, Sue's pissed and find out to the
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very end and his dad of fighting. And then after
they fight and I was like whoa whoa like because
I had to leave and I needed I want to
make sure you were tough and then their buddies at
the end right here, that's true, and he left him. Sure,
there's the whole thing that give you that name. Don't
take the girl. Great one twist on this one huge twist.
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It's like when you say something that you try to
find it, you know, the huge twist of like how
he never wanted this girl to be part of his life.
He didn't want to You don't want to go fishing,
you didn't want to do all that stuff. But then
it's like they get older, they fall in love and
it's like, well, don't no, don't take the girl from me. God,
she's having our baby. The girl ends up being is
the mom, the mom of his baby, and she's having trouble. Nice,
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it's great, it's great. I don't take her fishing. Dad,
Come on, this was the first song I heard in
my life. But I thought, that's you know what, my dad.
He doesn't listen to music. I mean, he listens to
a recreational It doesn't break down any lyrics, nothing can do.
Can really live life without music. And he's fine. But
one day he came home from work and he's like,
I heard the best song on the radio. It's this one,
and he played it, He's like, don't take the girl.
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I'm like, wow, dad, music finally got you. And it
was Tim McGraw and it was last week, George Jones,
he stopped loving her today. I don't know the twist
on this one. So this was his big comeback, right, George.
So the whole deal with this was it's a very
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romantic song, obviously, and it's a guy who still wants
his X and she's left him a long time ago.
But he stopped loving her today because he died. That's
the only time he stopped loving her. Well, I don't
think I've ever really sat down listening to this song. Yeah,
you know, she came to see him one last time
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all and we all wondered if she were And when
you say that this was his comeback song, what had
happened in his career? His career is gonna slow down?
No hits, no hits? Is that alcohol? Was it? Like
kind of all that everything? Everything? Yeah, for good, it's
over for good because he still died. That's the only
time that he stopped loving her was when all of
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the life was sucked out of him. Pretty romantic. It
is romantic. Um what you ever? Um, listen the words
three wooden crosses. Yes, recently in the last year. Yeah, yeah,
great twist. What do you think about that one? So
this is the hooker, Yeah, exactly, it's the farmer, the teacher, teacher,
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and the preacher. Right, okay, so so this is the Gosh,
I gotta think about this. But there are these three
wooden crosses that they see on the side of the road,
and I think that the story. I think. I don't
remember how that he tells the story, why he tells
the story, but I'm just kind of letting you jump
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out of it. I'm trying to remember exactly why there's
a twist. Well, the four of them, they all those
three die except the sex worker. The preacher gives a
sex worker, the prostitute, the Bible. It's she has it
um and it's covered in blood. And but later the
new preachers her son who has the Bible. Oh wow, okay,
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see I didn't get even after passed that same Bible
unto her son who became a preacher. Wow. Okay, there
are free wooden cross on the right side up the way.
Father's not four there heaven. Okay. Yes, it's not what
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you take when you need this world behind you, just
watch you deep behind you when you go. So he
left to the Bible. She passed the Bible to her son.
Her son end up being a preacher because of the Bible.
I don't remember listening to this like when I was younger.
I didn't know. It was really like a year ago.
Somebody brought it up and I was like, oh, we
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were maybe I met a songwriter who wrote that song. Yeah,
we we worked on at Black River. Who oh that's it.
That's it, um, Eminem, Stand this is not a country song,
remember this one? Yes, big twist? What's the big twist?
I like, how you just you commit to it and
then you try to figure out, of course the biggest twist.
And let me think about that. Stand kills him right, No, no,
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Stand doesn't kill him and him he doesn't. So Stand
is a dude. Which, by the way, when someone super fan,
when someone says I stand someone that's from this song.
So that's one, goes dang, I stand Channing Tatum that's
from this song. Stan kill himself. Yes, but the twist
isn't just that, it' said Eminem is finally getting back.
Let's finally getting back to writing back. It took him
(38:50):
a while to get back to him, but he already
killed himself because Eminem wouldn't respond. Must have miss, I
don't think I did. That's itsly just as you. What's
the city set of a similar writing back risk too,
I say that ship just plowed, so come on, how fish?
You've got to miss you? Dan? I think you need
some counseling to help your ask some bouncing off the
walls when you get down something? And what's the ship about?
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Us meant to be together? That's tite to sit or
make me not want us to meet each other. I
really think you when your girlfriend need each other. But
maybe you just need to treat the better. I hope
you get to read this letter. I just hope to
reach it. You went time before you hurt yourself. I
think that to be doing just one of that rapa
the other song. Come man, why are you so mad? You?
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Why don't want to span that? I just want you
was a fan. I just don't want you to do
some crazy ship. I've seen this want it on the
news a couple of weeks ago. They made me sick.
It was drunk. He told his call for a bridge
and had his girlfriend and he was prectict with his kids,
and then the car he found a shape, but they
didn't say it was too something to think about it.
His name was it was you. Damn, there's your twist?
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Is this true? I don't think so? All right? How
cre that cool? Would that been? Like? Wow, this is real?
Do you know what the name? Hey, Mike played this
song by Rupert Holmes, Eddie, do you know what the
name of the song is? Here? You go like Rupert
Holmes who sings this song? You card part and the feeling?
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I mean, if you like Peanut Clods, it's called Escape.
And by the way, I don't even know Rubert Holmes
is don't either, And so this is number one film
called Escape. And so everyone kept going to Peanut Clodis song.
They had to add it in parentheses. Yeah. Yeah, So
this whole song is about him basically if you were
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doing uh swipes today on tender Bumble, but he was
doing personal ads all right, and he's like, this is
all the stuff that I like Peanut Clods. If you
like peanut taking walks in the rain, if you're not
into yoga, if you have half a brain, you know
the whole thing that's his classified at rights though, and
then but someone responds, and then he goes to meet her.
And then it was his girl, his girl he already had.
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Oh that's a twisted with hot here you go. And
she walked in the place. I knew a smiling an instant.
I knew the curve of my face. It was my lady.
Come on, and she said, oh, it's you. And then
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we laughed for a moment, and I said, I never
know that you like being at glot. Come on, I'm
not in the ring holding them would have been pissed,
and they shut up. I had to find somebody near.
She's classified that. You answered it, Dan, You're right. That's
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why they laughed. That's why they laughed. We're about that's
that's a messed up song. That's funny, though I didn't
know that. How about this one? Remember Hello Ell Lola,
who's exists for the Kinks. Now this is a real story.
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I guess their manager had liked this girl and was
trying to get with this girl and was like, damn,
you're pretty masculine for a girl. And Lola wasn't a girl.
A guy. Uh meets her the bar, romantic encounter and
then here it's like, I'm not the most masculine guy,
but I'm so was low. Yeah, hello, that would be
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a twist. It's funny. There you go. All right, that's
it's good stuff like that. I'm gonna go back and
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listen to Pina Colada again or Escape, Yeah, escape Frens
the Pilot. All right, Well, check out Eddie on the
Sore Loser's podcast. Yeah, Ray Lunchbox always growing, um check
it out, just search for sore Losers. I saw the
surfing thing you guys did. We did. We surfed for charity,
(43:41):
but did you I don't think you made it. They
said thirty seconds and bucks to correct, and then at
the end of it they're like, we're just kidding. We
can We'll give them money anyway, how far did you
make it? Fifteen seconds was my practice run and then
my actual surf surf surf was like five seconds when
the pressure was on you. Yeah, it's different. So I
kind of grew up surfing a little bit like in
high school and a little bit in college. But this
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is different. The water comes at you versus you right
in a wave. So and I'm forty years old. All
that combined made me not be able to do it
very well, and I'm kind of hurting today. Are you
who served longer? You? Scooba Steve, lunch box? Probably Scuba Steve.
What is he does he exercise? He's pretty, He's pretty
(44:24):
in shape. You can tell a lot, how when someone
takes her shirt off. Yeah, he's pretty, he's pretty in shape.
It wasn't close to him, but he's pretty hairy on
his chest, very hairy. No hair on his head, but
a lot of his chest bald head and a lot
of chest hair. Yeah. I've seen the thing where guys
that can't grow here on their head like to go
everywhere else like here. It's kind of a thing. I'm
not totally um, but yeah, it looked like he was
(44:44):
in pretty good shape. Yeah, it's pretty good shape. I mean,
you know, he's a dad, so we as far as
dad bods go, i'd say pretty. We're both pretty good.
You know what I'm saying. Would you again, I didn't
see his clothes. Would you compare your bod with twoose? Yeah? Compatible? Yeah,
I'm a little softer probably, so you can tell comparable,
comparable You're you're not compatible? You mean comparable, That's what
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I meant. But but you can tell he was bigger
back in the day, like he had more muscles. I
never had a lot of muscles. You can tell that
he had a pretty good shaped body back ten years
ago or something. Are you in better shape than the
lunch Box body wise? Yeah? Well he's just he's gotten nothing.
He's like skin and bones with hair and not like
bush your hair like Steve. It's like a hair here
(45:28):
and there, but skin and bones. Still. Okay, it's nobody.
There's nothing, and he looks like an old man. Like
he actually looks like an old man, hunched back with
like bones sticking out of random places. I think you're
being a little rude. You asked what I'm telling, Okay,
but yeah it was fun. Check out the Sore Losers
(45:48):
podcast with Eddie lunch Box and raymondo. Um and that's
it alright, episode two four right, Mike, alright, this is this?
I think, who's our next episode with Paul Giovanni. Do
you know about him? Know what he was in the
band Boys Like Girls? Yeah, there are two. Those bands
(46:10):
are always confusing to be one Boys Like Girls and
the other one are boys that goes back together? Which
one which bands back together? That's the other one because
they both have roots here in Nashville. Okay, those two
are confusing to me. Boys he was in Boys like Girls,
but now like written big songs with Dan and Shay.
Oh that's cool? Yeah? Yeah, what's he written? The new
Sam Hunt song Folks Now? The other one he released
(46:34):
like a couple of weeks ago, Center with Center Again.
I don't know, dude, never heard it. Davin Emily Wiseman
wrote that too with him? Yeah, what he wrote in
Dana Shay stuff? Right? Like some of the big ones. Yeah,
I forgot which one was the last one? Maybe guy
his tones the medium ones. When you first said his name,
I thought he was that actor Paul Giovanni. Oh no,
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is that his name? Yeah? Paul? Really you're gonna have
him on the Awesome Sideways. Alright, Uh bye, guys, see
you next time.
Welcome to Episode to twenty four of The Bobby Cast.
This is a special music edition. No guest unless you're
the guest. Can I be the guests? Well, you can be,
I guess. But when you walked up here a second ago,
because we're in my house and you, guys, what are
we talking about? I prefer to bring you into these
without you knowing what we're gonna talk about, unless I'm like, hey,
research this and come in with your own thoughts. But
(00:23):
this isn't really something I don't want you to research. Okay,
So we'll do some stuff. We'll do new music out
this week, we'll do music news and then, inspired by
an article that I found at opery dot com, dramatic
twists in country songs plus a couple of like you
don't expect this song to go this way and then
at the end it does, so is it? Though? Where
(00:45):
did your mind go with that? Right off the bat?
Because we'll get two in a minute. Um thunder Rolls
not one of ours here, but why thunder rolls? Because
it starts off just like three thirty in the morning, like, oh,
it's like some cool, scary story, and then it's just
like about a wife waiting for her husband to come
home and he's not because he's cheating, and then um,
(01:06):
that would have definitely fit. We do have a Garth
song on here. Okay, Garth's got a couple of those,
so we'll get to that coming up in a minute.
New music out first this week, Kelsey Ballerini has got
a new song called l A. Here's this song, Frans
call the Ocean here mad at Me? The relationship with
(01:37):
l A. Anything you'd like said about that? Interesting it is.
It's kind of like the her saying musically like she
goes to l A to kind of search this pop world.
I'm gonna be honest with you, have no idea. It
sounds like it first I've ever heard any of the
(01:57):
songs right now, I'm too. I know it's been out
for a while and Kelsey and I are friends, but
I never heard that songs. I guess it's been out
for Friday, Saturday, Today, Sunday we record this. I never
heard it. I mean the whole like Tennessee, Will Tennessee
be mad at Me? It's kind of what I feel.
Maybe it's people again, We're just I'm just I'm just
a listener. And one lyric, and now we're guessing maybe
it's people upset at her for thinking that she's trying
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to cross over and go chase pop when she hasn't
quite accomplished country yet. Yeah. I've heard it for the
first time. I know, I know, but those lines are powerful. Um,
are you a lyric person or a melody person know
that that whole line of her will Tennessee be mad
at me is the only reason I started, like, listen
to this lyrious, Like what's she's saying? At first? I'm like, Na,
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that's kind of where my mind goes first, And then
I'm like, what did she says? Play that again? Let's
break it down, let's do film here, might play that again?
Frans See, that's exactly what it is. Thank you know
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what I said. You said, I didn't know that, but
that's what it is. She's like, I'm on TV or
doing something and but people in the country world to
get me pissed because I'm being too pop. Yeah right, yeah,
I mean we can get her on talking about this soon.
That's kind of what I got from it too. I mean,
it's it's interesting, like she she definitely writes what she's
(03:24):
feeling and that's crazy. That's that's what her thoughts are
right now. Also, if you go back to the infancy
of this podcast, we did one with her when it
was really like, she's really vulnerable in it, right. We
ever put that one back to the top, haven't. Well,
if you haven't heard it, you should go back and
hear it, unless when we'll get her on for another
new one. But I'll just recommend everybody go check out
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one of the really early Bobby cast with Kelsey Ballerini
from the other House before we moved. We're talking into
campbell soup cans. Here is the second new song out
this week, Hot Country Nights, which is Dirk spent Ley's
parody band and Travis trip the It's called pick her Up,
pick Up and Up Stake Home Time, Kick Up, dance
(04:10):
around to an old juice box? Do you really want
to rock the world? Just from the road anyway? Girl
ain't got a right travel, she ain't got no use
for I mean the fact that Travis trets on it's cool.
But to me it just sounds like a good Dirk
(04:31):
Spanley song. It does. It sounds just like Dirk like
and because it is Derek. But when you don't see them.
It just sounds like a Dirk Spentley song. So what's
what's he doing with this? I think he's bored. Is
he He's wanted something new? I think I'm not gonna
speak for him, but I am friends with him. I
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think he is not super inspired by what's happening right
now in country music, and I don't think he has
anything that he feels like he has to write, and
so he's going, you know, I still want to make
music and have fun. I have a lot of time
to do it. Let's have some fun, because I yeah,
I don't. I just think was this the band that
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he would open up his shows with or was this
the band that he would just kind of show up
at random places? And I've played with them before Country
Nights yeah and after party right. Yeah. I remember that
Heart Country like two years ago in Austin. I went
up and did I did um Me in the Middle
with them, and then I did another song because that's
what they would do. They sing a bunch of covers
(05:33):
and they still do. Yeah. I think he just was like,
I want to have some fun and I'm not super
inspired to do anything right now. Um, So I'm gonna
just do this. I'm putting words in his mouth. Cassie Ashton.
This song is called Hopeless. It's pretty cool. It's called hopeless,
(06:07):
but it's maybe I should hope less. Yeah, I got that.
I was like that. She's so good, He's so good.
I know. She just she's not there yet in people's eyes.
She has like buss through yet because she hasn't had
a big mainstream radio song on the tet success. But
as soon as she has that one song that has
massive success, people are gonna find that because it's going
to be delivered to them on a on a large
(06:28):
consumption scale, and they're gonna start to see the other
stuff that she's done and just fall in love with
her as an artist. I love her. This is a
great song too. It's got a good sound to it.
You like that kind of electric Yeah? I like that.
Slide one right now here is Hayley Witters. The song
is called Janice at the Hotel Bar go on make
(06:55):
Good Living Dogs again. Somebody that manages her has myself
phone number. I don't know who it is, and I
might know them, but I keep getting texts going, hey,
what's up with the Have you heard the new Haley
witers and I don't know who it is? Do you respond?
(07:16):
I think I have before. Let me look at my
messages because she's actually really good. I don't know that
she has a big deal yet. Yeah, I've never heard
of her. Okay, here we go. Okay, so I don't
know who it is because there's no um, it's just
an number. Here. Look at you. You You did right back
(07:37):
one time? He goes, oh, I know who it is. Yeah,
because it's someone that manages someone else that you know.
And that's what I scrolled to. I got into a
we'll call it a beef with a band before says hey,
great hanging. I appreciate your open mindnus about blank let
(08:00):
stay in touch, and I said, thanks man, you too.
He's actually pretty nice. That's the old text. Yeah, this
is from two thousand seventeen, this old tech. I scrolled
all the way up and I did do this the beginning.
It's awesome to your phone. Kept that text reference on
an airplane with this guy. I was flying here to
California and somebody super cool was like, hey, just get
(08:22):
on my plane. You can go out with us. And
so there were like five or six of us on
this plane, and he was one of them, and so
he was like, Hey, this is my friend and he's
also the manager for and I was like, oh, I
kind of been fighting with those yeah, but then it
was totally cool. I actually really got along with them.
Thought he was great. Then I started to get messages here,
(08:44):
but I couldn't. I don't know who was right. I
didn't scroll up congrats on on our personality of the year.
I really liked our talk on the plane. Hope we
can build on that. Didn't reply Bobby Cappy and I
are managing Haley Winters, wondering if she's on your radar
at all? If not, love to share the with you.
I said she isn't. I was honest, she isn't. I'm
(09:04):
sure I run into her. I don't really listen to
people's music officially, especially if it's not out yet. A
bad spot for me. Um, he's understood. Well, if you
find the time. And then he sent it again, Hey, Bobby,
just checking out with you, Hayley. Things really picked up.
She's got an album to and then you said, I said, I,
actually I didn't. Haven't replied a long time to playing
with the Gither talking it's a gift Haleen now on
(09:31):
my on my podcast, let's see my podcast? All boom.
I guess he just replied, yes, it's a good guy.
Now why is it called Janis Hotel Bar if it's
(09:51):
about her? I gotta tell you, I don't listen to
as much new music as I used to. Why just
not my discovering My goals are different. I used to
go because for a while, for I would say four years,
and I'm not anymore. So I'm gonna say this. I
used to be the leader of breaking artists, and I
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just invested so much time into that. Let me find
really great people they don't get in a shot. Now
I'm just trying to build my career outside of I
do the radio show best I can. I do the
TV show I've been writing, and when I have time,
I do that. And when I write where I used
to listen to a lot of music, Like last night,
I get on Alexa and I go Alexa and I
was gonna play play new you know whatever, and I
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was like, Alexa, just play nineties acoustic. So I just
as I'm writing, I'm just listening. Just the time that
I have on East invest in that because I have
radio time of TV time I'm writing, and then I don't.
I'm kind of done. There's nineties you're comfortable go to
because I have to think. It's like when I go
to sleep, I have to watch episodes of shows I've
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already seen, which right now is The Office, but has
been King of Queens, has been in my life, Olden Girls,
Mary with Children, Roseanne. I need to have seen every episode.
So I'm not curious about how would you find you music? Though?
When you did, did you YouTube a lot? Because anybody
can post up on YouTube, and if you watch something,
it gives you like five other spots over there on
the side and takes back red. Yeah, let's see what
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do you say? You guys are friends now. I hope
you're saying good things. Life's good when you're running for president. Question.
You gotta get back to my UM. I don't I
forget your question. My best friend text me, so, yeah,
I asked you how you found you music? UM? A
couple of ways. One to Apple Music, three Spotify, four friends.
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So so when you do like Spotify and Apple, is
that just kind of playlists of the new the whatever
playlists they put together for new stuff. Mostly if you
find one new artist that has a certain kind of
tone or sensibility that they'll give you seven other ones.
Apple is really good about it. Spotify is pretty good
at day um for me. Everyone uses these services differently.
Apple Music is a little better for me and finding
new music, but they both really have their strengths. Yeah,
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it's weird too when you find a song that you
really like and then you you check the band out
and it's like, nothing else sounds like that song. You're
like me, Or you find a song you really like
and you see seven people you don't recognize and you
click a couple and you liked them and it's kind
of in the same vein, and you're like, oh wow,
because that's happened to me a lot in country music.
And then some of them end up, you know, being
big stars. Okay, Haley, there's Haley Winters. Chase Rice dropped
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a surprise album called The Album Part One. You're shaking
your head. I've heard I've heard that he released one?
Did you listen to it? All? Right? Here we go?
Here is Messy from Chang love you the best that
I can't even when you can't damn me, even when
you can't even stand yourself. I'm telling you ain't nowhere.
I swear it. You just put out an album and
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didn't have nine months of build up or a new
album coming out. But it's funny how you called it surprised,
like you know, because it was kind of no one
saw that coming. I was listening to a playlist I
believe on Spotify and this song comes on and it's
basically like song porn. He's like I grabbed you and
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in your butt and then and I was like, what, like,
look a look at his songs. Okay, I want to
hear this, and that might be it might be a
little it's not that graphic. I think it is in
my mind. I was like, what now, I'm looking forward
to put it in my butt? Yeah, thet I put
your toes in my mouth. No, it's it's gotta be
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an old one. So like one of the most strange ones.
And then I took a tubotfore gonna want it tonight?
Give me another one, try to try gonna want it tonight?
I mean that sounds like it would be let's see, No,
that's a hit. What's your name? That keep going? What
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Carolina can? That's the top ones, that's the new one
Lonely if you are in the car, you're not helping
me here, mostly because I don't know I'm talking about.
All right, it's don't call it in the butt. Oh
that's the one. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, that can't be
keep on. That's what we just played, is right. No,
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that's that's uh. That is only if you are that's
what we just playing. You know, I'll be kick back
with yeah whatever. Maybe I was on his dirty channel
released that when at midnight and only I can only
play at midnight and four am because you know, Mitchell
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Tinpenny has a song called Can't go to Church Crazy
dalk In give Me Anymore? And then Pearl jam Yeah
(15:09):
have you heard I've heard the song. They released Dance
of the Dance of the Clairvoyant, and I heard it
and I was just like, what is this crap? I
hate on my favorite doors today because I get that
too bones. I have never thought that. When Pearl Jammers
a new song and that's my favorite band of all
time and I heard it, I'm like, oh my gosh,
they're losing it. Good for you, though, That's that's growth
and being able to not just blindly follow something musically.
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It sounds cool. Well, when Eddie starts singing, he said,
he always sounds like different master. It sounds like just
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would be a song in a movie as someone as
someone is saving the princess or something. Okay, okay, yeah,
like he's he's fighting people to get through the princess
up there. He's got a shield and the sword. And
then I don't know, and I think I've I've listened
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to like three or four times now and it's starting
to sound better because I do love Pearl Jams so much,
and I do love his voice and I love everything
they do. But at first listen was rough and like,
this is bad. I've had that happened to me with
its been bold stuff. When he gets really experimental, I'm like, gosh,
I wish I was better. Yeah, that's tough, tho when
your favorite people put out I know. Um I saw
a picture of them all together recently. It looks like
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a bunch of old dudes. Yeah, they're they're pretty old.
There's also one guy with long hair. He's newer, he's old.
He's like so so he's he's that's interesting. He's Hawaiian
and uh and he Eddie Vetter would go to Hawaii
and surf or whatever, and he started surfing with this
guy and they became friends. And he plays key. He
plays keys, and so Eddie and him would jam out.
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He'd be like, hey, you're pretty good man. He's like, yeah,
you should come tour with my band. Like come, He's like, okay,
what what do you I'll show up. And he showed
up thinking they were just gonna go play a couple
of club shows and they were huge arenas. And did
he not know? He was no idea, who, no clue,
come on, just shows up and and so he was
kind of like a special guest for a while. But
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now he's officially part of the band. His name is Boom.
That's not true Dead Series. That's the story they told. Hey,
I know the supposed to be in the arena here.
I'm looking for a little club. Do you know what
we're supposed to go? Stop? Hayley Williams Simmer. This is
from Paramore Haley with It sounds like I'm the same
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movie that Pearl Jams soundtrack. Do you know her, you've
met her? I met or I don't know where she
lives here listen some of the time she's from here. Franklin, Tennessee. Right, Mike, Yes,
I haven't met her. Um those that's new music out
this week? Which one do you give the Grammy too?
Pearl Jam? Of course you probably my cast that hard what?
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God no, No, it's just not my kind of music.
I like them. I like them. Fine, it's not my
kind of music. Um and that Pearl Jam. I would
say the same thing. God no, but you didn't know.
You didn't. You're like, that's possible, it could happen. Definitely,
wasn't gonna be that. I'm probams you. In Music News,
this week's CMT pledges fifty video airplay for female artists.
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Your thoughts good? I mean, are there fifty half videos
of female artists out there? Well, so it's two things, right.
I don't think this is good. Here's why. A couple
of reasons. One, if you really think the music is better,
you should do sixty females. You should do like the thing.
I'm just never a fan of going we're just gonna
do equal for everybody, because that's like a participation ribbon.
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I don't like fifty fifty. I think if you think
there's great female videos and male then you play the
seventy percent female. I'm never a fan of no matter
what it is going, let's just in art, let's everything's equal,
because in art nothing's equal. So I don't I think
it actually is not the best movie. Listen at times
you have to do because I've been I've done it too.
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You have to do old sometimes h things that are
you're doing it just so people will look at you
to make a difference. But I am not a fan
of it because if you really believe there's more then half,
then play more than half. I don't think you should
cap at fifty by you're camping it at fifty, because
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that's what this is. A pledge. We're gonna tell you
what we're doing because it's a it's a bull move,
and I like the obnoxiousness of it because again I
can appreciate that part of it. But A but by
you going we we're gonna, that means that you're you're going,
you're just gonna do up to fifty. But if it's ninety,
what if all the videos are better than all the
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dudes and play all of them. Um, it's a tough
place for them to be in. I like what they did.
I am not a fan of video airplay because it
makes you go, well, we're gonna give female something that
and again, and nobody put their neck on the line.
More female artists than I have. But um, but good
for them for trying something. They probably think the same
thing that I'm saying right now. They're probably just going,
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we can make headlines right now, we just have to
make headlines. So they also don't live off of playing
music videos too. There's most of the content is on,
so it's not like they're taking their whole channel. The
hard thing about making people switch it up at radio
is you have a bunch of people in radio. I
don't consider myself as part of this because I don't
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program anything. I don't program music. The one thing that
I do program with music is at one hour national
show I do that isn't about a hundred and fifty cities,
and it's all females. So in my contract I was
able to say I want an hour of whatever I want,
and they said, okay, what do you want? So I
do it all female show. So going with this, I
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don't pro I don't forgot it's going. I'm sure it
was good though, Well correct me if I'm wrong, But
the way it was. Want of something good here though,
maybe this will remind you. But the way it works though,
don't I got it hot? You People in radio, I
don't care if people screaming at them. They don't care
about people on Twitter and go and play more. What
they care about is keeping their job because anyone in
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any medium that again has to deal with art, those
jobs are so hard to get and keep. And you're
not gonna go and be one radio station that risks
something and then when it doesn't work they cut you.
You'll never get another job. Not because of the female thing,
but because it's so hard to get jobs. So if
I'm a program director in Pittsburgh, why am I going
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to risk a playlist that people tell me has been
researched because if it works, you're credited in the research
gives it to you. If it doesn't work and you
played what they said, you can go the research told
me to do this. I can't be in trouble. So
it's gonna be hard to get radio. And it's not
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even a radio thing. What record labels have done is
they've started it's so much more deeper in the culture.
We're probably serviced. We as in radio thirteen males to
one female. That's provided from the record label. Yes, because
that's how radio stations play music. Now. I have been
a music director and since I was like twenty five
years old. But radio stations are brought this music by
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the different record labels and said, hey, we would encourage
you to play this song because this is the song
we're trying to make go number one with this someone
who to move up the chart probably thirteen males to
one female, and so our radio sessions are supposed to
take and make one female times thirteen. So it isn't
It isn't fair. But even from the labels, you gotta
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go to the A and R. Why aren't they finding
more females? Why aren't there more? That being said, I
like what CMT is doing for the headline. I don't
like fifty It seems like socialism inside of art. But
all in all, don't we do what the consumer wants?
And here's why you don't on radio to shove females
on a playlist, because as soon as you do, and
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it's untested and unproven, if someone doesn't like it, and
then someone that's been research ago, we told you, we
just put some new females on and people don't like it.
They've changed the channel. We have absolute data because we
can see. We can see when people change the channel,
and so it doesn't matter if it's unproven a male,
a female, or a band. People don't like unproven things.
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And if you put on a bunch of unproven females
at once or a bunch of unproven may als at once,
people will change the channel. There's only like three artists
that you can put on that you don't know the
song of. People are so familiar with the tone of
their voice they'll keep it on. And that's Jason al
Dean and Luke Brian somebody else looking at research. I
remember the other one right now. But if you put
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on a dude, maybe that's sounds something somebody like that.
If you put on a dude that people don't know
and they don't know a song, they're gonna change it too.
So but what's unfair is if you put on do
you take three songs by female arts, you just shove
them in the playlist, people are gonna go, I don't
know this and change it the same they were dudes.
But but male female, whomever else is doing the research
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and go we told you it didn't work, so now
we're going to be a step behind where we started anyway,
and go we told you we tried, and now we're
not trying again. Because you really can't shove an artist
to a listener's ear, like you just can't. They'll tell
you right away that it's just not what they want
to hear. It's weird, especially in markets that set the tone,
which are major PPM markets, which PPM is what right
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you is measured in. It's a real life It looks
like a pager and it's like with television when you
have the box up there, they know exactly when you
turn it off, and they know why you turn it off,
and they know which quarter hour radio it does the
same thing, so they can tell and when people go
what about research? Now they can look right at ratings
and see when people turn their their dials off more
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so than and in other ways they can put people
in a room and sit them around and go tell
me about this song, or they play them on the phone.
But anyway, good for them for just keeping it out there.
But to everyone who's like screaming and yelling at radio
radio is like, what do you want us to do.
We're just trying to keep our jobs. No one's gonna
take a big risk if it involves them putting their
butt online. So it's deeper than that. And I'm not
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even speaking from radio. I fight radio on this all
the time, so much so that I when my contract
came up, I negotiated that that spot there too. One
it's an hour, but it also moves females the chart
a little bit because it's um such a widely played
radio show. It lets me talk about it on my
radio show. I can so that then I can play
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more music on my show. It's just the whole thing.
It's just not very few things have I ever seen
creatively changed because people are screaming at it. Probably like
a kid, you scream at it for like a little
for a second. It works for a second, but probably
doesn't change who they are overall. Yeah, And as a dad,
as my kids screaming, I'm like, keep screaming, it's gonna
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get worse. Keep it up. So in conclusion, I do
like that CMT made headlines with it because it does
bring the issue back up. If they were basing all
their ratings on musical programming, I think it'd be a
bit heavier. Meaning I mean if they if they're only
playing music video of the day, it's not that big
of a deal. If you're only affecting of the year. Uh.
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And I don't like the fifty fifty. If you're asking me,
is it good overall? It? Wh why did you not
go we we're gonna six, Well, we're gonna do this
is what I would say. What we're gonna do is
just play music based on what we feel is good.
And every week I put out a report card on
this week. It's six females and fours about this week,
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And you constantly keep it in the new cycle, and
you constantly go over and look what they're doing. And
it's like, yeah, we've sat in a room and realized
that these who knew that's all. I just mean, we
just spit balled that whole AREO. It's empt should listen
to us. Um. Eminem defended the violence and his new
(27:33):
album Have You Heard? In the new emin amount putt
a surprise album. The video it's like you told me
about it. Yeah, it's crazy, Um, But I mean we're
still offended by Eminem. It's really still He's been doing
it in his whole career, like every time, how many
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times we have to touch the hot stove like it's
gonna burn us. Congrats to him though always just surprise
is this by the way. Congrats to him on his
dark beard and dark hair. Looks good, Mike. You like
that that he's not bleached blonde anymore. Well, he hasn't
been bleached bond in a while. But like his whole
thing now is like dark and a prize natural color.
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If I dies a little bit, he can getting older.
He did set the world record two for words in
a song the other day. That one song on here.
Um I think the song is called like Tsunami or
who held the record before him? Um? Micro think it
was him with rav god One't I think? I think yeah?
And then he came back do you have do you
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know what song that is? I google that we'll come
back to it. Finally, Ozzy Osbourne announced he has Parkinson's disease.
Which was the song I was playing? It was a
song he um, Ozzie's always talked kind of funny. I
didn't know if how long he had had it because
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during a pressure you think the Ozzie that we know
maybe not. I didn't know what. I don't know, because
he's always talked like that, even when he was younger, younger,
Black Sabbath younger, like. But wow, I mean that's well,
what they're saying is Ozzy Osbonne revealed it is Parkinson's.
Sharon says, quote, it's not a death sentence by any
stretch of the imagination. He's gonna get back out there.
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I guess my only question is how long has he
had it? Not our business. I'm not super educated on Parkinson's, like,
I haven't been close to anyone with it. I only
see the people that they will put on TV. Michael J. Fox, Um,
I don't know much about it other than just shaking
and he kind of had that that kind of exactly right.
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Us Grammys are tonight. By the time you hear this,
the Gramms will be over. Congratulations to all the winners,
all the winners, they all they all deserve it, every
single one. Mike, do you find it? Yeah, So it's
this song. He has two words with three thirty syllables
and about the last thirty seconds of the song. But
I did him in a ventage of murdering again a
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buddy would be in kim But then about he's in linierating.
Everything is inderatdor going to get him and then met
anybody who want up the pen in a a frame of
don't body wanted, but they're gonna get anyway up again.
And to feel like I'm really illlement till killer killed
him kilby the venillager. Really you bring in the killing
with dimiaotomy. You don't want to be the enemy of
the demon and winning me and being receiving enemy. What's
the good idiot to be? Every bit of me's the epidemy.
Get spided when I'm in the fercinity. Motherfucking you better
ducky even to be dead. Themn that you run into
me a percent, he was a fifth of a cent
and the vinage you bitch'm in available. You want battle
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them available and want Blake inflatable and un debatable. I'm unavoidable,
I'm in evadable him on the got a chaierul of
the money and'm beatiful. I'm not afraid of pull the
man stuff. That's great. And I would assume they have
this recorded on video when he did it. They have
to have the world record. Yeah, because so that so
it's not it's not edited. So and does he do
this live? What do you mean, because does he go
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out and tour and do this live? Oh? I don't know.
Does he do rap godlive? He does rap Godlive. I
mean that's so impressed to me. I mean, that's just
training your mind to learn every single word of that
which I can't even remember. Friends in low places sometimes true,
you know, and he's there, are you on stage? I
share it him? We I've found this article on opera
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dot com by country songs with endings we didn't see
coming in about it some other onesty as well. Carry
under what two Black Oh? This is, by the way,
the second part of the show. But before we get
into it, let's take a quick break. All right, we're back.
These are all twists and songs. So Carrie Underwood, two
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Black Cadillacs, you know the song are He? So the
twist is as it's all sad and you're like Donna,
and it turns out they conspired against them and murdered him.
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Right now that you've heard it a bunch of times,
it just you know, but at the first, it's just
a funeral song. He's done, he's dead. Then at the
end it's like, but we killed him. Ah, kedn't really
realize that now. It's the first time he did when
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I first heard it. Yeah, yeah, I mean sure, but
this is it's a cool breakdown. Papala Mama. Okay you
know the song, yes, of course, if you just read
the title Papula Mama, it's like, oh, man, two parents,
they loved each other. They loved each other. But and
this is early Garth Brooks and um roping. The wind
just continues to fly into Daddy's truck driver. He loved mama,
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Mama got lonely, had an affair. He came home with flowers,
bottle of wine, and they're at the hotel. And he
never hit the brakes, just drove right on. When he
was shifting, gears just flowed. And then that's the whole twist.
You know. At the beginning of it, it's like a
love and then by the end he drives. Wow. Yeah,
good one. Yeah. I have songwriters do love twisting their
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songs though, Office in the Pen. One of my favorite songs,
just because my grandmother played all the time, is a
boy named Sue from Johnny Cash. There's only a live
recording of this, by the way, it's right, he never
recorded on the studio. So what do you think about this? Yeah,
it's a good one. The twist, the twist is great.
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I mean, the whole build up of the song to
him going to see his dad is great. Uh. By
the way, shel Shell Silverstein wrote this, So, but what
do you think the twist is here? Well, the twist
is that they ended up liking each other at the
ends like he needed, he needed, he understood why his
dad named his Sue. Right, So the twist is I
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think it's mostly right. You know the song obviously, the
twist is the dad named him that because he knew
he had to go and he since he couldn't trying
to be tough, he was gonna have the world do
it because so he named him Sue. It's right. But
he was filled with so much anger because his dad
named him sueing like, there he is, that's s ob
Remember when he kicked Black Mule Bit Black of Prophet Dog.
The whole time, Sue's pissed and find out to the
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very end and his dad of fighting. And then after
they fight and I was like whoa whoa like because
I had to leave and I needed I want to
make sure you were tough and then their buddies at
the end right here, that's true, and he left him. Sure,
there's the whole thing that give you that name. Don't
take the girl. Great one twist on this one huge twist.
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It's like when you say something that you try to
find it, you know, the huge twist of like how
he never wanted this girl to be part of his life.
He didn't want to You don't want to go fishing,
you didn't want to do all that stuff. But then
it's like they get older, they fall in love and
it's like, well, don't no, don't take the girl from me. God,
she's having our baby. The girl ends up being is
the mom, the mom of his baby, and she's having trouble. Nice,
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it's great, it's great. I don't take her fishing. Dad,
Come on, this was the first song I heard in
my life. But I thought, that's you know what, my dad.
He doesn't listen to music. I mean, he listens to
a recreational It doesn't break down any lyrics, nothing can do.
Can really live life without music. And he's fine. But
one day he came home from work and he's like,
I heard the best song on the radio. It's this one,
and he played it, He's like, don't take the girl.
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I'm like, wow, dad, music finally got you. And it
was Tim McGraw and it was last week, George Jones,
he stopped loving her today. I don't know the twist
on this one. So this was his big comeback, right, George.
So the whole deal with this was it's a very
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romantic song, obviously, and it's a guy who still wants
his X and she's left him a long time ago.
But he stopped loving her today because he died. That's
the only time he stopped loving her. Well, I don't
think I've ever really sat down listening to this song. Yeah,
you know, she came to see him one last time
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all and we all wondered if she were And when
you say that this was his comeback song, what had
happened in his career? His career is gonna slow down?
No hits, no hits? Is that alcohol? Was it? Like
kind of all that everything? Everything? Yeah, for good, it's
over for good because he still died. That's the only
time that he stopped loving her was when all of
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the life was sucked out of him. Pretty romantic. It
is romantic. Um what you ever? Um, listen the words
three wooden crosses. Yes, recently in the last year. Yeah, yeah,
great twist. What do you think about that one? So
this is the hooker, Yeah, exactly, it's the farmer, the teacher, teacher,
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and the preacher. Right, okay, so so this is the Gosh,
I gotta think about this. But there are these three
wooden crosses that they see on the side of the road,
and I think that the story. I think. I don't
remember how that he tells the story, why he tells
the story, but I'm just kind of letting you jump
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out of it. I'm trying to remember exactly why there's
a twist. Well, the four of them, they all those
three die except the sex worker. The preacher gives a
sex worker, the prostitute, the Bible. It's she has it
um and it's covered in blood. And but later the
new preachers her son who has the Bible. Oh wow, okay,
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see I didn't get even after passed that same Bible
unto her son who became a preacher. Wow. Okay, there
are free wooden cross on the right side up the way.
Father's not four there heaven. Okay. Yes, it's not what
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you take when you need this world behind you, just
watch you deep behind you when you go. So he
left to the Bible. She passed the Bible to her son.
Her son end up being a preacher because of the Bible.
I don't remember listening to this like when I was younger.
I didn't know. It was really like a year ago.
Somebody brought it up and I was like, oh, we
(38:04):
were maybe I met a songwriter who wrote that song. Yeah,
we we worked on at Black River. Who oh that's it.
That's it, um, Eminem, Stand this is not a country song,
remember this one? Yes, big twist? What's the big twist?
I like, how you just you commit to it and
then you try to figure out, of course the biggest twist.
And let me think about that. Stand kills him right, No, no,
(38:28):
Stand doesn't kill him and him he doesn't. So Stand
is a dude. Which, by the way, when someone super fan,
when someone says I stand someone that's from this song.
So that's one, goes dang, I stand Channing Tatum that's
from this song. Stan kill himself. Yes, but the twist
isn't just that, it' said Eminem is finally getting back.
Let's finally getting back to writing back. It took him
(38:50):
a while to get back to him, but he already
killed himself because Eminem wouldn't respond. Must have miss, I
don't think I did. That's itsly just as you. What's
the city set of a similar writing back risk too,
I say that ship just plowed, so come on, how fish?
You've got to miss you? Dan? I think you need
some counseling to help your ask some bouncing off the
walls when you get down something? And what's the ship about?
(39:11):
Us meant to be together? That's tite to sit or
make me not want us to meet each other. I
really think you when your girlfriend need each other. But
maybe you just need to treat the better. I hope
you get to read this letter. I just hope to
reach it. You went time before you hurt yourself. I
think that to be doing just one of that rapa
the other song. Come man, why are you so mad? You?
(39:32):
Why don't want to span that? I just want you
was a fan. I just don't want you to do
some crazy ship. I've seen this want it on the
news a couple of weeks ago. They made me sick.
It was drunk. He told his call for a bridge
and had his girlfriend and he was prectict with his kids,
and then the car he found a shape, but they
didn't say it was too something to think about it.
His name was it was you. Damn, there's your twist?
(39:56):
Is this true? I don't think so? All right? How
cre that cool? Would that been? Like? Wow, this is real?
Do you know what the name? Hey, Mike played this
song by Rupert Holmes, Eddie, do you know what the
name of the song is? Here? You go like Rupert
Holmes who sings this song? You card part and the feeling?
(40:19):
I mean, if you like Peanut Clods, it's called Escape.
And by the way, I don't even know Rubert Holmes
is don't either, And so this is number one film
called Escape. And so everyone kept going to Peanut Clodis song.
They had to add it in parentheses. Yeah. Yeah, So
this whole song is about him basically if you were
(40:43):
doing uh swipes today on tender Bumble, but he was
doing personal ads all right, and he's like, this is
all the stuff that I like Peanut Clods. If you
like peanut taking walks in the rain, if you're not
into yoga, if you have half a brain, you know
the whole thing that's his classified at rights though, and
then but someone responds, and then he goes to meet her.
And then it was his girl, his girl he already had.
(41:05):
Oh that's a twisted with hot here you go. And
she walked in the place. I knew a smiling an instant.
I knew the curve of my face. It was my lady.
Come on, and she said, oh, it's you. And then
(41:29):
we laughed for a moment, and I said, I never
know that you like being at glot. Come on, I'm
not in the ring holding them would have been pissed,
and they shut up. I had to find somebody near.
She's classified that. You answered it, Dan, You're right. That's
(41:51):
why they laughed. That's why they laughed. We're about that's
that's a messed up song. That's funny, though I didn't
know that. How about this one? Remember Hello Ell Lola,
who's exists for the Kinks. Now this is a real story.
(42:14):
I guess their manager had liked this girl and was
trying to get with this girl and was like, damn,
you're pretty masculine for a girl. And Lola wasn't a girl.
A guy. Uh meets her the bar, romantic encounter and
then here it's like, I'm not the most masculine guy,
but I'm so was low. Yeah, hello, that would be
(42:55):
a twist. It's funny. There you go. All right, that's
it's good stuff like that. I'm gonna go back and
(43:18):
listen to Pina Colada again or Escape, Yeah, escape Frens
the Pilot. All right, Well, check out Eddie on the
Sore Loser's podcast. Yeah, Ray Lunchbox always growing, um check
it out, just search for sore Losers. I saw the
surfing thing you guys did. We did. We surfed for charity,
(43:41):
but did you I don't think you made it. They
said thirty seconds and bucks to correct, and then at
the end of it they're like, we're just kidding. We
can We'll give them money anyway, how far did you
make it? Fifteen seconds was my practice run and then
my actual surf surf surf was like five seconds when
the pressure was on you. Yeah, it's different. So I
kind of grew up surfing a little bit like in
high school and a little bit in college. But this
(44:03):
is different. The water comes at you versus you right
in a wave. So and I'm forty years old. All
that combined made me not be able to do it
very well, and I'm kind of hurting today. Are you
who served longer? You? Scooba Steve, lunch box? Probably Scuba Steve.
What is he does he exercise? He's pretty, He's pretty
(44:24):
in shape. You can tell a lot, how when someone
takes her shirt off. Yeah, he's pretty, he's pretty in shape.
It wasn't close to him, but he's pretty hairy on
his chest, very hairy. No hair on his head, but
a lot of his chest bald head and a lot
of chest hair. Yeah. I've seen the thing where guys
that can't grow here on their head like to go
everywhere else like here. It's kind of a thing. I'm
not totally um, but yeah, it looked like he was
(44:44):
in pretty good shape. Yeah, it's pretty good shape. I mean,
you know, he's a dad, so we as far as
dad bods go, i'd say pretty. We're both pretty good.
You know what I'm saying. Would you again, I didn't
see his clothes. Would you compare your bod with twoose? Yeah? Compatible? Yeah,
I'm a little softer probably, so you can tell comparable,
comparable You're you're not compatible? You mean comparable, That's what
(45:07):
I meant. But but you can tell he was bigger
back in the day, like he had more muscles. I
never had a lot of muscles. You can tell that
he had a pretty good shaped body back ten years
ago or something. Are you in better shape than the
lunch Box body wise? Yeah? Well he's just he's gotten nothing.
He's like skin and bones with hair and not like
bush your hair like Steve. It's like a hair here
(45:28):
and there, but skin and bones. Still. Okay, it's nobody.
There's nothing, and he looks like an old man. Like
he actually looks like an old man, hunched back with
like bones sticking out of random places. I think you're
being a little rude. You asked what I'm telling, Okay,
but yeah it was fun. Check out the Sore Losers
(45:48):
podcast with Eddie lunch Box and raymondo. Um and that's
it alright, episode two four right, Mike, alright, this is this?
I think, who's our next episode with Paul Giovanni. Do
you know about him? Know what he was in the
band Boys Like Girls? Yeah, there are two. Those bands
(46:10):
are always confusing to be one Boys Like Girls and
the other one are boys that goes back together? Which
one which bands back together? That's the other one because
they both have roots here in Nashville. Okay, those two
are confusing to me. Boys he was in Boys like Girls,
but now like written big songs with Dan and Shay.
Oh that's cool? Yeah? Yeah, what's he written? The new
Sam Hunt song Folks Now? The other one he released
(46:34):
like a couple of weeks ago, Center with Center Again.
I don't know, dude, never heard it. Davin Emily Wiseman
wrote that too with him? Yeah, what he wrote in
Dana Shay stuff? Right? Like some of the big ones. Yeah,
I forgot which one was the last one? Maybe guy
his tones the medium ones. When you first said his name,
I thought he was that actor Paul Giovanni. Oh no,
(46:54):
is that his name? Yeah? Paul? Really you're gonna have
him on the Awesome Sideways. Alright, Uh bye, guys, see
you next time.
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